The Baltimore Orioles, barring a last minute snag, will trade All-Star shortstop Manny Machado to the Los Angeles Dodgers on Wednesday, according to a baseball official with direct knowledge of the deal.
The official spoke to USA TODAY Sports on the condition of anonymity because the trade has not been finalized.
3 against the Red Sox the week after the trade.
Oh well.
He could sign long term. But he also could test the waters. Nobody knows at this point.
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I was hoping that Philly would sell the farm to acquire him and lose him in free agency. There is little chance that the Dodgers will let him hit free agency.
He could sign long term. But he also could test the waters. Nobody knows at this point.
yep he's no sure bet to re-sign there. They have Seager at SS coming back next year and They like Turner at 3b.
...prevents Cashman from making a potentially bad trade.
Now lets get DeGrom for Andujar, Torres, Sheffield, Frazier and Florial.
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...prevents Cashman from making a potentially bad trade.
Now lets get DeGrom for Andujar, Torres, Sheffield, Frazier and Florial.
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You sir have a deal!
...prevents Cashman from making a potentially bad trade.
Now lets get DeGrom for Andujar, Torres, Sheffield, Frazier and Florial.
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Too late MS already offered it and DMM accepted.
it's with the league now for approval.
Apologies if I'm taking "similar" too literally but while in the same ballpark, Sheffield is a better prospect by all the top 100 prospect rankings out there. Some I'd characterize as calling him much better (Keith Law had Sheffield as a top 40 guy while Diaz wasn't in his top 100 for example). Plus he's a SP which is what Baltimore really needs and wanted. Abreu and Diaz are closer which I would've done for Machado but doesn't sound like the Yankees were willing to.
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DeGrom ain't one of them.
Too late MS already offered it and DMM accepted.
it's with the league now for approval.
The thought of what BBI would be like if this trade happened would be truly amazing.
1. Mets fans saying they made a bad deal
2. Mets fans loving it
3. Yankee fans saying they made a bad deal
4. Yankee fans saying the players they gave up weren't that good
5. Mets fans saying DeGrom is X old therefore...
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Martino reporting Sheffield was the deal breaker. Diaz and Sheffield are similar caliber prospects so I'm wondering what else is in the deal.
Apologies if I'm taking "similar" too literally but while in the same ballpark, Sheffield is a better prospect by all the top 100 prospect rankings out there. Some I'd characterize as calling him much better (Keith Law had Sheffield as a top 40 guy while Diaz wasn't in his top 100 for example). Plus he's a SP which is what Baltimore really needs and wanted. Abreu and Diaz are closer which I would've done for Machado but doesn't sound like the Yankees were willing to.
? Diaz came into 2018 #73 prospect in baseball on baseball prospectus's list and has put up a .905 OPS this season, homered twice in the futures game so it's safe to say his stock is UP.
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BP had Sheffield #57 coming into the year
They are similar caliber prospects
relax, that wasn't it. The Mets were going to throw in Reyes and Jay Bruce.
Dodgers are going to have to really pay him because Philly is gonna offer largest contract in history of sport.
For the most part, you really cant just look at the number ranking in the ~25-75 range. Highly subjective. Really need to look at things like now/projected tools, overall floor/ceiling, proximity to arrival, etc.
I dont think its a stretch in the least to say that Sheff/Diaz are of the same general caliber.
So it would appear not to be a real situation of LAD choosing Diaz over Sheff, or of any supposed Yankee Tax (which I do think is an actual thing sometimes).
So it would appear not to be a real situation of LAD choosing Diaz over Sheff, or of any supposed Yankee Tax (which I do think is an actual thing sometimes).
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Martino reporting Sheffield was the deal breaker. Diaz and Sheffield are similar caliber prospects so I'm wondering what else is in the deal.
Apologies if I'm taking "similar" too literally but while in the same ballpark, Sheffield is a better prospect by all the top 100 prospect rankings out there. Some I'd characterize as calling him much better (Keith Law had Sheffield as a top 40 guy while Diaz wasn't in his top 100 for example). Plus he's a SP which is what Baltimore really needs and wanted. Abreu and Diaz are closer which I would've done for Machado but doesn't sound like the Yankees were willing to.
? Diaz came into 2018 #73 prospect in baseball on baseball prospectus's list and has put up a .905 OPS this season, homered twice in the futures game so it's safe to say his stock is UP.
314 .428 .477
BP had Sheffield #57 coming into the year
They are similar caliber prospects
See below for Diaz's rankings coming into the season vs Sheffield's
Top 100* Lists
Player BA BP ESPN MLB
Diaz 101 73 101 84
Sheffield 41 57 16 39
Diaz is having a good year but Sheffield is too (2.44 ERA in AA and AAA). I think it's fair to say that all the experts agree that Sheffield is a better prospect. Some more so than others but he's also closer to the bigs which helps his value.
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looking to engage in some debate where I look anti-Yankee. Point is both guys are roughly the same caliber prospect. Not "blue chip" aka STUDS ala Torres before he came up or Acuna, Guerrero etc. They are in the second tier. MLBpipeline gives Diaz a 55 future grade which is above average regular, Sheffield also has a 55.
Even if both are "second tier" I would think all things being equal the SP is the better prospect. Especially one who projects as a top of the rotation starter, compared to a starting corner outfielder.
Sure and it's very possible the Orioles with very limited major league pitching view Sheffield as a better get. All I mean is if the Yankees swapped Sheffield for Diaz nobody would be going "OMG what a bad deal". It would be two "similarly" viewed talents. Certainly not dogging Sheffield at all. Just saying both are very good but not "blue chip" prospects.
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Kind of a moot point, because LAD is allegedly willing to include Diaz and NYY took a hard line about not including Sheff.
So it would appear not to be a real situation of LAD choosing Diaz over Sheff, or of any supposed Yankee Tax (which I do think is an actual thing sometimes).
If the Yankees did offer Sheffield, he'd clearly be the more attractive option. So, it's not a moot point at all.
Im confused. The yanks did not offer Sheffield by all reports, and LAD did offer Diaz (allegedly). So the Orioles had the opportunity to get one, and did not have the opportunity to get the other.
Thats what made me say it was moot (though the discussion is still interesting).
I dont think we disagree.
Look up the Chris Davis contract...by far the worst contract in baseball
He will have plenty of suitors. The Phillies, Braves, Padres, White Sox, Etc have a lot of money to spend this offseason.
You cant run an organization that way. The reaction would be much worse if they keep him and he signs with the Yankees in free agency leaving them with just a comp pick.
Greg,
Only place I disagree is on Cuban players. I'm not sure I even understand what the deal is there but the White Sox have some weird Cuban player pipeline.
I think they that the Yankees will be outbid for Machado as they already are set at 3B long term. Machado is not a good SS so I dont expect the Yankees to outbid everyone for him. Machado isnt going to leave a ton of money on the table to go to the Yankees. I expect Philly to offer a massive deal.
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could probably never trade Machado to the Yankees for any package. Most fans aren't savvy about prospects. The fan outrage would have been crazy.
You cant run an organization that way. The reaction would be much worse if they keep him and he signs with the Yankees in free agency leaving them with just a comp pick.
I agree that it's not a smart way to run a team but it's a weird reality. The O's would take a lesser package from pretty much any other team, even the Red Sox.
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could probably never trade Machado to the Yankees for any package. Most fans aren't savvy about prospects. The fan outrage would have been crazy.
You cant run an organization that way. The reaction would be much worse if they keep him and he signs with the Yankees in free agency leaving them with just a comp pick.
I agree that it's not a smart way to run a team but it's a weird reality. The O's would take a lesser package from pretty much any other team, even the Red Sox.
Youre right but there is always a tax for trading with a division rival. It also hurts the Yankees that the Os owner absolutely despises the Yankees.
Boras is Machados agent. Hes not signing an extension.
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I was hoping that Philly would sell the farm to acquire him and lose him in free agency. There is little chance that the Dodgers will let him hit free agency.
Boras is Machados agent. Hes not signing an extension.
Unlikely but he's done it before
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has, he wouldnt just pay their best player. Idiots
Look up the Chris Davis contract...by far the worst contract in baseball
The O's can't do anything right. They were considered an overly cheap franchise for years. They finally loosen the purse strings for Davis and now he's a complete disaster. And they have to pay him $42M in deferred money in the future.
Now that he has been traded the Dodgers can't make him a qualifying offer which means that he won't cost a comp pick to whomever signs him. The rules are that the player must spend the entire season with a team in order to qualify for a tender.
Peter Angelos isnt really that hands on with the Os anymore. His sons have pretty much taken over ownership responsibilities a la Hal and Hank.