NFT: How to trap/kill a crafty rat in my garage?

and an air rifle.

Sounds like the perfect occasion for a stakeout.

with peanut butter and a piece of stinky bleu cheese.

In comment 15649059 pjcas18 said:

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and an air rifle. Sounds like the perfect occasion for a stakeout.

Lol!

Seriously, though.

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In comment 15649061 DC Gmen Fan said:

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with peanut butter and a piece of stinky bleu cheese.

Tried the peanut butter.

Maybe need a larger trap?

:mad:

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In comment 15649061 DC Gmen Fan said:

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with peanut butter and a piece of stinky bleu cheese.

I bought the smallish trap I have from amazon a while back. I doubt they would accept a return as this point.

In comment 15649068 robbieballs2003 said:

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HA!!

Not sure where it is.

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In comment 15649062 Grey Pilgrim said:

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In comment 15649059 pjcas18 said: Quote: and an air rifle. Sounds like the perfect occasion for a stakeout. Lol! Seriously, though. :unsure:

I am 100% serious and how do you even know it's a rat?

Maybe if you don't want to start out with the stakeout, at least get a trail cam - they're out there for $25 - $50 in the base entry level models and set it up across from your garage pantry and see what you're dealing with. It could be mice not even a big rat.

In comment 15649072 Grey Pilgrim said:

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Not sure where it is. :mad:

Question ... you live in Suffolk, right? I think I remember that. If so, Suburban is the best. I love them. Best customer service. I pay for the year and they handle everything.

droppings in the area? Mice droppings look like tiny black rice, rat droppings look similar but bigger.

If you don't see droppings in the area, I wouldn't be so sure it's a rat or a mouse. Maybe raccoon or squirrel or neighbor's kid, who knows.

a few years back when the dug up the field behind our house.

Was not an infestation but there was at least 4 of those little bastards.
A buddy let me borrow his ferret for a night. Problem was solved in that one night. If you think a cat hunts well. Watch a ferret got to town.
Calm and friendly as a dog but vicious little monster when it came to the mice.

then large glue traps also work very well.

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So you have to fall back on superior intelligence and superior firepower.

In comment 15649079 pjcas18 said:

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droppings in the area? Mice droppings look like tiny black rice, rat droppings look similar but bigger. If you don't see droppings in the area, I wouldn't be so sure it's a rat or a mouse. Maybe raccoon or squirrel or neighbor's kid, who knows.

The droppings look fairly large to me.

So prolly a rat imo.

In comment 15649078 robbieballs2003 said:

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In comment 15649072 Grey Pilgrim said: Quote: Not sure where it is. :mad: Question ... you live in Suffolk, right? I think I remember that. If so, Suburban is the best. I love them. Best customer service. I pay for the year and they handle everything.

A possibility, but I'd rather not spend an arm and a leg.

couple of rat traps cost? $12/$15? Just get the old reliable spring loaded traps as mentioned above and use peanut butter as bait.

I've done the stakeout thing before, it's very fulfilling/rewarding if you pull it off. You don't even have to do it with the air rifle if you don't have/want one or don't want to kill whatever it is.

I would really prefer to know what I'm dealing with, before forming my plans to eradicate it, and I don't know how you know without a stakeout or trail cam or something to get that visual confirmation.

In comment 15649059 pjcas18 said:

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and an air rifle. Sounds like the perfect occasion for a stakeout.

This is definitely the most entertaining solution.

Sticky pads. Put some peanut butter on it. Works all the time.

the cat has fun and its cheap. Maybe buy the owner some food or whatever. I would have lent my mouser (and birder) out to anyone for a day or two.

If you're not sure if its a rat, set up a cheap battery-operated camera, like a Blink. You can use it for home security when you're done.

In comment 15649079 pjcas18 said:

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droppings in the area? Mice droppings look like tiny black rice, rat droppings look similar but bigger. If you don't see droppings in the area, I wouldn't be so sure it's a rat or a mouse. Maybe raccoon or squirrel or neighbor's kid, who knows.

If it is a squirrel, I would suggest you attempt to capture it by climbing up a tree and acting like a nut.

large glue traps in a square with the stinky cheese and peanut butter in the center

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSOD7m4XYg0

Amazing Rat Catching With Farm Dogs Kill About 500 Rats!

but you have to finish the job yourself. I’d do a few of those and some snap traps. Rats are a lot smarter than mice so sometimes you need to mix up your approach. I think a combo of traps and poison is the way to go. Don’t be surprised if a trap gets cleaned out and the bastard doesn’t come back.

you can find. The little ones are crap and the mouse/rat will just drag it away.

Get ones that are like 12"x6" I think. Put a dab of Skippy in the middle and you will catch the varmint.

In comment 15649154 NNJ Tom said:

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you can find. The little ones are crap and the mouse/rat will just drag it away. Get ones that are like 12"x6" I think. Put a dab of Skippy in the middle and you will catch the varmint.

Agreed. I’ve gotten the Catchmaster traps from Amazon. They are fairly large and work well.

on a mousetrap.

It will be like it was never there.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSOD7m4XYg0 Amazing Rat Catching With Farm Dogs Kill About 500 Rats!

The video's this guy posts are awesome. Buttercup and Boss are killers!

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In comment 15649145 dabru said: Quote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSOD7m4XYg0 Amazing Rat Catching With Farm Dogs Kill About 500 Rats! The video's this guy posts are awesome. Buttercup and Boss are killers!

Nevermind. I thought this was the mink guy.

pest control business.

work great for me.
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Really, Pilgrim? I see that you're upset, but to kill yourself over a stupid rat? C'mon man.

Acme products

In comment 15649201 Bill in UT said:

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Really, Pilgrim? I see that you're upset, but to kill yourself over a stupid rat? C'mon man.

LOL!

TBS I'd rather not poison the poor little guy. I'll prolly buy a larger trap.

Are we talking like Tom Silva/Norm Abrams levels of craftiness?

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rats to me. I have dealt with them over the years here in the AZ desert. First thing you might try is a continual flashing light. They hate that. Many of us here use the lights under the hoods of our vehicles as pack rats love the wiring in them. I had one once in my garage. I put out rat dcon daily and it would disappear. After I got rid of the rat, I found an older golf shoe packed with dcon.:)).
The cat part has worked for me. But, a pet cat or domesticated cat probably won’t do the trick. Many cats will run from pack rats. Find someone with barn cats. You can usually get your hands of them. They are feisty and will leave the dead rat where you can easily see it, like a trophy.

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Piers. The only way they could get the ferret back was to put a female ferret in heat in a cage. Sometimes both would escape escape so they imported killer Mongooses to kill the ferrets, but sometimes they'd escape so they'd use small alligators, but sometime .........

In comment 15649089 j_rud said:

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So you have to fall back on superior intelligence and superior firepower.

Yes this. You need to make an explosive shaped like a rat, so the rat on your garage thinks its his friend. Then blow it up.

It kills the rat a few days after they eat it but non toxic to other animals(does something to their stomach where they wont eat or drink).

with a plank or contraption across the middle of the opening? I think you bait them for a couple of days and then unlatch the plank so the next time the sucker falls in the bucket and drowns. The liquid may also contain poison.

if a rat just smells a cat, they will leave the area.
There was a story not long ago about cities making shelters for stray cats in rest infested areas and the rats clearing out in no time.

My house has six interconnected crawl spaces. We heard a critter in those. So I bought six cheap wifi cams and put each one looking through each crawl space. Wyze... comes with free motion alerting software. We discovered that we had one small rat.

I put out a few small live cage traps with sunflower seeds and peanut butter bait, including some outside the traps. The rat would sneak up to the trap, smell it, touch it, go all around it, but not go inside.

Then I put in its favorite spot, a bucket with a hole in the lid and a corrugated shop vac hose leading up into the bucket. The rat came out and looked at the big black hose which apparently really freaked it out because it sped away and we never saw it on camera again. And no more noise. There is a joke to be made there but because I was doing this with my son, I didn't make it.

In comment 15649147 Jimmy Meatballs said:

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but you have to finish the job yourself. I’d do a few of those and some snap traps. Rats are a lot smarter than mice so sometimes you need to mix up your approach. I think a combo of traps and poison is the way to go. Don’t be surprised if a trap gets cleaned out and the bastard doesn’t come back.

NO NO NO to poison. I have a friend whose wife works for Audubon and rescues birds. They get Hawks, Owls, Eagles, etc. all the time that suffer and die from eating poisoned mice. Same for fox etc. I have good luck with the snappers and the electric shock ones. The shock ones kill them (, Voles, Rats and Mice) instantly.

Then reduce 1/16 - 1/30th (depending on sprayer). Spray bottle/pump your foundation and/or problem areas.....I haven't seen any since.

It works : )


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if a rat just smells a cat, they will leave the area. There was a story not long ago about cities making shelters for stray cats in rest infested areas and the rats clearing out in no time.

Cats work too.

Just feed the wild one, they will prey in the mean time.

: )

In comment 15649089 j_rud said:

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So you have to fall back on superior intelligence and superior firepower.

LOL!

Love Caddyshack!

Adult human outmatched by a rodent. That’s be a more proper title.

Sounds like someone of your apprehension with regard to harming other low forms of life should just adopt a stray cat. Two birds with one stone.

you are no Pilgrim. Jesus Christ man..

Stop buying mouse traps. Rat Traps are larger. Get a large trap, bait with peanut butter... be done with it.

Bill Murray

They fought the dogs and killed the cats,
And bit the babies in the cradles,
And ate the cheeses out of the vats,
And licked the soup from the cooks' own ladle's,
Split open the kegs of salted sprats,
Made nests inside men's Sunday hats,
And even spoiled the women's chats
By drowning their speaking
With shrieking and squeaking
In fifty different sharps and flats.
--Browning

He keeps on eating the bread that is outside the trap, but not inside.

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I think it's time for a larger cage.

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In comment 15649722 Jimmy Googs said:

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To lure him in.

I'm going to try just in the trap now.

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Good job baiting outside the trap to get it used to it. I like to bait the snap traps for a few nights before setting it. Sun flower seeds or any nuts work great. Peanut butter usually too, but if they set off a trap and don't get caught they might not eat that bait again especially if there are still other food sources available around. They're like $50 but the electronic shock traps from Home Depot work the best. Snap traps are ok but I've found don't always get them. Tricks for the snap traps: place parallel to the wall right up against it so they have to run right over it. Put something heavy on the back and 2 sides so there is only one way they can approach the bait. Screw them down into a piece of wood, sometimes the big snap traps have so much force they go flying around when they go off.

If you want some homemade fun look for videos of how to make your own bucket trap with a 5 gallon pail and piece of wire. Here is a fun rat song to listen to while you plot his death.
Rat in me Kitchen - ( New Window )

There's an old saying among veteran Rat Exterminators --

"The hungriest cat gets the crafty rat."

Go to the Animal Shelter and adopt the biggest Tom Cat. Don't feed him any kibbles for a week. Then lock him in the garage with your Rat......Problem Solved.

Now, the problem of what to do with a blood-thirsty old Tom Cat is another matter.

In comment 15649232 FranknWeezer said:

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Are we talking like Tom Silva/Norm Abrams levels of craftiness?

2 points for TOH reference

and closer to the door.

:strange:

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In comment 15651138 Grey Pilgrim said:

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pictures?

you don't need to pose with it like a trophy, but I'd like to see what you were dealing with.

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In comment 15651138 Grey Pilgrim said: Quote: :thumbsup: pictures? you don't need to pose with it like a trophy, but I'd like to see what you were dealing with.

I forgot to take pics, but there might be more than one rat. If so I"ll do so.

:sorry:

Also, I also don't know how to post pics. [yet]

He was a little guy, and I released him in the horse trails nearby.

HTH

:fingerscrossed:

In comment 15651268 Grey Pilgrim said:

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In comment 15651143 pjcas18 said: Quote: In comment 15651138 Grey Pilgrim said: Quote: :thumbsup: pictures? you don't need to pose with it like a trophy, but I'd like to see what you were dealing with. I forgot to take pics, but there might be more than one rat. If so I"ll do so. :sorry: Also, I also don't know how to post pics. [yet] He was a little guy, and I released him in the horse trails nearby.

I do the same thing Pilgrim. They are typically on the "catch and release at the park program" at my house... lol. I use the electric zappers only as a last resort for the craftier (and more damaging) ones. I have a buddy that uses the bucket trick where they follow a trail up over the bucket and roll off of a soda can or something. That seems to work well too but I haven't tried it.

for chipmunks. They ate every strawberry out of my garden and didn't just do it at night or stealthily, they would grab a strawberry in broad daylight, sit right there at the edge of the garden leaning on their back paws and taunt me eating the strawberry in my face.

They don't do that anymore. the bucket of death works.

I didn't think it would work for rats though, i feel like rats are survivalists and would somehow scratch and claw their way out.

but it should work probably.

A Bigger Guy.

I'll try to take and post pics later.

:thumbsup:

:unsure:

In comment 15652203 Grey Pilgrim said:

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three easy steps. you need to upload the picture to a place it can be accessed with a link. For example, I have an account with imgur, it's free and takes 5 seconds to set up.

1. Set up an account with am image hosting site

2. Upload the picture to the image hosting site and copy the direct link URL.

3. in your BBI post create a link to the like this:



then submit your post

When you release an animal far away it dies a slower more painful death most of the time. No home, no known sources of food, established turf for other animals of it's kind already, etc etc.

Just kill them at the outset.

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I hope he finds his buddy.

A little help please. I'd like to learn how to do this!

:excited:

Here's the url:

https://imgur.com/a/7qnDHXP

Isn't this correct? Won't let me post it in the url box.

:mad:

he scurried away before I could.

:sad:

That is a giant rat. Where there is one, there is more, where there is two, there are many more. I would either burn the house down or move.

I do not like vermin.

damn, that's a rat. Do you live near water or a fast food restaurant?

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damn, that's a rat. Do you live near water or a fast food restaurant?

Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

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In comment 15652349 pjcas18 said:

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damn, that's a rat. Do you live near water or a fast food restaurant?

No on the fast food, but there is water down the block from me.

In comment 15652411 Grey Pilgrim said:

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In comment 15652349 pjcas18 said: Quote: damn, that's a rat. Do you live near water or a fast food restaurant? Any idea what I'm doing wrong? :unsure:

when you are in imgur select direct link, not image link and paste those results in between the img and /img tags with the [] like in my post.

:thumbsup:

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In comment 15652548 Grey Pilgrim said:

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strong to very strong. I'd get a trail cam if I were you because I want to see how many rats I'm dealing with.

And why do you have food outside? It sounds like you have a pantry with food in it, in a garage (detatched garage?). Is that true?

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In comment 15652548 Grey Pilgrim said: Quote: ??? strong to very strong. I'd get a trail cam if I were you because I want to see how many rats I'm dealing with. And why do you have food outside? It sounds like you have a pantry with food in it, in a garage (detatched garage?). Is that true?

Hey, Yeah, I'm expecting more.

We do (or did) have food outside (and the basement) In retrospect not a great idea.

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In comment 15652670 Grey Pilgrim said:

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Sorry about the reiteration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfX_N1M4C2g


"where the mice actually enjoy getting trapped" - ( New Window )

didn't mean to submit that yet.



Even though I have nothing right now to trap, I'm still building this tomorrow because I have all the materials to hand. I'll see if I have mice or rats in the woods next to my house, I guess.

In comment 15652210 oghwga said:

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When you release an animal far away it dies a slower more painful death most of the time. No home, no known sources of food, established turf for other animals of it's kind already, etc etc. Just kill them at the outset.

I thought about that but I do it as much for the predators in the area. There's little enough food to go around for them so I figure if the varmints make it on their own cool, if they end up as part of the food chain also cool. I just don't have the heart to take somethings life just because they doing what they do... lol.

will eat dead rodents.

I know I commented on this in a post, but I used to throw all the dead chipmunks (and opossums from my pool, and rabbit carcasses from my dog, etc.) over the fence to my neighbors yard.

I went back there to take inventory and there was not one decomposing animal to be found.

I think the hawks eat them, maybe the foxes too.

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will eat dead rodents. I know I commented on this in a post, but I used to throw all the dead chipmunks (and opossums from my pool, and rabbit carcasses from my dog, etc.) over the fence to my neighbors yard. I went back there to take inventory and there was not one decomposing animal to be found. I think the hawks eat them, maybe the foxes too.

Yeah I'm sure you are right, and crows. I have two gigantic Barred Owls that live near where I let them go, so I guess I'm always rooting for the night predators because I figure they would miss out on day scavenging.

... at throwing them into your neighbors yard.

Raccoons love a nice dead carcass too. They are the number one carrion eaters on my trail cam.

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the trigger was not tripped.

:yikes:

:mad:

Let's see what happens tomorrow.

is going to show you this, but they sacrifice one rat each day.

In comment 15653407 pjcas18 said:

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is going to show you this, but they sacrifice one rat each day.

Ugg!

Let's see what tomorrow brings!

The bread was still in the trap as well.

I think I'm going to try cheese and/or peanut butter instead.

:dunno:

Youtube has some creative rat trips.
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that a thread about a rat in a garage gets twice as much attention as a thread about great food, lol

I don't think they like peanut butter.

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that a thread about a rat in a garage gets twice as much attention as a thread about great food, lol

LOL!

Sorry Bill!

Checked this again this morning.

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In comment 15657235 Grey Pilgrim said:

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Checked this again this morning. :mad:

but there are signs he was there?

seems like you've got a wily one (or more) on your hands.

May need to go forward with plan B (the stakeout)

In comment 15657240 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 15657235 Grey Pilgrim said: Quote: Checked this again this morning. :mad: but there are signs he was there? seems like you've got a wily one (or more) on your hands. May need to go forward with plan B (the stakeout)

Yup. He ate some of the bread.

He's a crafty one!

I'll give it another day or two. If no luck, it's prolly time for plan B.

Thanks again for your help.

:thumbsup:

Checked this again this morning.

:mad:

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that a thread about a rat in a garage gets twice as much attention as a thread about great food, lol

Rats-a-Roni?

Let's see what happens.

:fingerscrossed:

google "water bucket rat trap" or
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Trap is set and ready to go!

may work, but I saw the rat in that picture, I wonder if he's big and strong enough to get himself out. Please add a trail cam if you try the bucket of death.

Rats are survivors, much more than mice, moles, voles, chipmunks, etc.

Also, be careful you don't piss him/them off and force them to come into the house and seek revenge.

In comment 15657494 pjcas18 said:

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may work, but I saw the rat in that picture, I wonder if he's big and strong enough to get himself out. Please add a trail cam if you try the bucket of death. Rats are survivors, much more than mice, moles, voles, chipmunks, etc. Also, be careful you don't piss him/them off and force them to come into the house and seek revenge.

LOL!!!

Crunch up some sunflower seeds or peanuts and make a trail to the trap. Then put a bigger pile behind the trip on the trap. It's incredible how smart a stupid rat can be.

Bucket of death will work without water as well if you want to be humane about it and release them which you seem to like to do.

bucket of death works on a rat.

check out the hops on this guy and then look how he climbs the wall - you think this one committed suicide but he survived. he'll get out of a 5-gallon bucket. Rats are resourceful, and as I mentioned above, survivors.

drown it, shoot it, poison it (all of them).

In comment 15657235 Grey Pilgrim said:

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Checked this again this morning. :mad:

Are you sure you're not leaving the key within reaching distance?

Lots of good info here.

Bill - LOL!

Going back to strictly bread.

But, they are crazy. I'm cleaning out my garage and they actually ate some Rose Tone Fertilizer. Crazy stuff.

...you incredibly dumb fuck!

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...you incredibly dumb fuck!

I'd rather not kill them if possible. TBS the rats appear to have gone AWOL for now.

Rats are highly adaptable and you are training them to avoid traps.

You are just going to make the problem worse for yourself and your neighbors.

If you want their demise to be "natural" just get a dog that is a ratter, like a Dachshund, and he will kill them for you and enjoy doing it.

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Rats are highly adaptable and you are training them to avoid traps.

I'm coming to this conclusion myself.

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...you incredibly dumb fuck!

No. Your local owls, hawks, and other predators will thank you. Ask your local bird rescue what they think about poisoning varmints.

I think it might be time for some poison.

:mad:

Used Easter Chocolate Bunny Candy as bait.

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I think it might be time for some poison. :mad:

The problem with poison is the crawl in your wall and die and it stinks badly.

Have you used the old traditional?

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In comment 15670068 Grey Pilgrim said: Quote: I think it might be time for some poison. :mad: The problem with poison is the crawl in your wall and die and it stinks badly.

I think this is good advice.

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In comment 15670068 Grey Pilgrim said: Quote: I think it might be time for some poison. Have you used the old traditional?

I have not. I prefer the humane approach if possible.

Thanks for the advice though.

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will eat dead rodents. I know I commented on this in a post, but I used to throw all the dead chipmunks (and opossums from my pool, and rabbit carcasses from my dog, etc.) over the fence to my neighbors yard. I went back there to take inventory and there was not one decomposing animal to be found. I think the hawks eat them, maybe the foxes too.

Maybe he threw them back :)

In comment 15675093 steve in ky said:

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In comment 15652914 pjcas18 said: Quote: will eat dead rodents. I know I commented on this in a post, but I used to throw all the dead chipmunks (and opossums from my pool, and rabbit carcasses from my dog, etc.) over the fence to my neighbors yard. I went back there to take inventory and there was not one decomposing animal to be found. I think the hawks eat them, maybe the foxes too. Maybe he threw them back :)

This is the worst time of year. I have sheds and various places in the backyard that seem like magnets for rodents, rabbits, and other small critters.

Two nights ago my two dogs wanted to go out at 1:30 AM which is unusual. I had just got home, so I let them out, they were outside for a while and i finally lured them in with treats and the big dog (puppy) ran right in and went up to my room where we have a dog bed for him.

The smaller dog, the older one, ran in slower, but I decided to give them both their treats upstairs to avoid fighting.

I gave the big dog the treat, I couldn't see a thing my room was dark, my wife was asleep, but woke up when the dogs ran in.

I saw the dog ignoring the treat and paying attention to something on my bed but I could not make out what it was - it seemed like the size of the rats in these pictures, and I said "holy shit is that a mouse"? I have never seen my wife move faster. She was up and out of the bed and hiding in the bathroom in a flash.

I turned the light on and looked and the big dog was standing proudly and protectively over a dead baby rabbit in my bed.

lol, I was so proud of him. My wife wants to move, burn down our house and of course replace our bed and incinerate any piece of bedding that has ever touched our bed.

I of course threw the dead rabbit (along with several more the past few days) over the fence.

What's the over/under on the number of Rats I trap from here on out?

Your neighbor must love you

In comment 15675213 steve in ky said:

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Your neighbor must love you

I went over there yesterday and looked there is nothing there. Zero. No fur, no bones, no carcasses.

I am positive that hawks, falcons, owls, foxes, raccoons, coyotes, and other predators are eating them, so I'm doing the world a favor since I have a fence and those animals are too big to get in easily (well not the birds, but either way, I'm feeding them).

Plus he always borrows my shit, so it evens out.

For all you know he is picking up and throwing half of them away.

In comment 15675331 steve in ky said:

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For all you know he is picking up and throwing half of them away.

He's not, he'd tell me. He'd probably think it's funny.

Plus if he says no it limits my options on how to dispose of the bodies. You may not like it, and honestly that doesn't matter to me, but this is one of those cases where I'm fine asking for forgiveness instead of permission.