I was always familiar with the song Running Up That Hill, but Stranger Things sent me down a bit of a rabbit hole and now I have Babooshka stuck in my head
some of the coolest duded I know are metal guys (and gals)
heck, still going to aftershock festival in october at 58 yrs old!!
Jinjer!! Lamb of god slipnot etc!!
RE: I wonder if Lars can finally afford that gold plated shark tank bar
Assuming this is a dig due to the Napster stuff? That was way more about the fact that "I Disappear" from the MI:II soundtrack was being shared before it was even finished and released than it was about money. A lot of people forget that Dr. Dre and others were also part of that lawsuit. Lars and Metallica just became the face of it.
how this generation needs music all but spoon fed to them on a platter.
We had to earn that shit back in the day. Walk to the store buy the record and listen to the whole thing...and we were all better off for it.
Now it's too easy. And the music industry is all but fucking dead because of it.
What are you getting your data from? And what are you critiquing, the radio?
Cmon —data? Don’t need it. The rock and roll industry (even rap) is not even close to the 70s-90s. I understand there’s good music out there but it’s not nearly as accessible or even as good. And there’s less quantity too.
Record producers and the titans of industry are fewer in number. There’s leas money to be made thus there’s less good music being made.
RE: I wonder if Lars can finally afford that gold plated shark tank bar
We all laughed or ignored it back in the mid 90s but it turns out he was exactly right. Napster and streaming all but killed the industry or at least took a huge bite out of it.
how this generation needs music all but spoon fed to them on a platter.
We had to earn that shit back in the day. Walk to the store buy the record and listen to the whole thing...and we were all better off for it.
Now it's too easy. And the music industry is all but fucking dead because of it.
What are you getting your data from? And what are you critiquing, the radio?
Cmon —data? Don’t need it. The rock and roll industry (even rap) is not even close to the 70s-90s. I understand there’s good music out there but it’s not nearly as accessible or even as good. And there’s less quantity too.
Record producers and the titans of industry are fewer in number. There’s leas money to be made thus there’s less good music being made.
music has never been easier to access, its literally all streaming.
What I think you're lamenting is the loss of the monoculture, which I actually do agree with. I don't think it's as possible for any music to be as transformative to popular culture as, say, Nirvana was back in 1991.
There's less titans of industry because there is less money to be made in terms of actually selling the music.
the barriers to entry to making music has never been lower. It's a give and take. The democratization of music making is good in some respects, and bad in others.
how this generation needs music all but spoon fed to them on a platter.
We had to earn that shit back in the day. Walk to the store buy the record and listen to the whole thing...and we were all better off for it.
Now it's too easy. And the music industry is all but fucking dead because of it.
What are you getting your data from? And what are you critiquing, the radio?
Cmon —data? Don’t need it. The rock and roll industry (even rap) is not even close to the 70s-90s. I understand there’s good music out there but it’s not nearly as accessible or even as good. And there’s less quantity too.
Record producers and the titans of industry are fewer in number. There’s leas money to be made thus there’s less good music being made.
music has never been easier to access, its literally all streaming.
What I think you're lamenting is the loss of the monoculture, which I actually do agree with. I don't think it's as possible for any music to be as transformative to popular culture as, say, Nirvana was back in 1991.
There's less titans of industry because there is less money to be made in terms of actually selling the music.
of titans of industry is a new one for my bingo card, but there’s still lots of great music being produced. It’s a shame artists are not making the same kind of coin in this environment, but I could not care less if record companies are not gouging fans as much.
in 2021 the music industry generated $26b which was the highest since around 2001. And that’s because music is so accessible.
And while you had to go work to find music kids today are teaching themselves several instruments at a time and making their own music. Some are self made millionaires being in their early teens.
In terms of monoculture or lack thereof, that’s across the board. People have too much to choose from, no one person or group in the entertainment industry is going to change a culture. That died a long time ago and isn’t coming back. I don’t think that makes music bad now, it’s just not what you are used to. The old way doesnt = the best way. It’s just different.
popularity has risen so much that it has overtaken CDs as the #1 sold physical format since the early 90’s when CDs surpassed cassette tapes.
The demand for vinyl is so great right now that there not enough presses to keep up with it. It is the best way for younger fans to support their favorite musicians and own something physical, and has led to them branching out and discovering other music on vinyl as they get the collection itch. Big box stores like Target, Best Buy, Walmart and even online shops like Amazon are getting their own exclusive color variant releases of vinyl. Not to mention smaller limited run presses by indie shops.
If you want to shake your fist at something, shake it at the big labels and corporations that put the music industry in the situation it is in now, and has historically taken advantage of and fucked over musicians. People will adapt to how they will consume and find new music, and there is a lot of great stuff old and new out there.
of titans of industry is a new one for my bingo card, but there’s still lots of great music being produced. It’s a shame artists are not making the same kind of coin in this environment, but I could not care less if record companies are not gouging fans as much.
I didn't mean to imply that I miss the record companies or titans as much as I miss the way music was produced and presented to us all back in the day.
It aint the same. This isn't even a debate anymore.
mainstream and new rock n roll is practically dead
yes it's all streamer accessible but the rock and roll industry is all but toast. There are hardly any new bands that capture the imagination of a large audience. Kids don't even listen to rock anymore or at least not nearly as many do. The old bands are hanging on but other than that, it's a dying breed.
Rock is the new jazz. Maybe I misworded my initial thoughts. It's not even close to what it used to be.
And fuck man I wasn't boot licking the record industry as much as I was romanticizing about a bygone era. And it's definitely gone.
It has changed. And maybe in some ways its for the best, I guess, but to me the rock n roll genre is dying a very slow death. It will always be around in some capacity, but it won't ever be like it was where anyone aged 10 and up was all but hooked on the genre.
Appreciate the insights from everyone-- all well founded and truthful.
RE: there are no new rock n roll stations in NYC area
It has changed. And maybe in some ways its for the best, I guess, but to me the rock n roll genre is dying a very slow death. It will always be around in some capacity, but it won't ever be like it was where anyone aged 10 and up was all but hooked on the genre.
Appreciate the insights from everyone-- all well founded and truthful.
Have you tried WFUV? It's the Fordham University station and its alternative rock with a lot of new stuff.
Except for Sundays when it's Irish/Celtic.
RE: RE: there are no new rock n roll stations in NYC area
It has changed. And maybe in some ways its for the best, I guess, but to me the rock n roll genre is dying a very slow death. It will always be around in some capacity, but it won't ever be like it was where anyone aged 10 and up was all but hooked on the genre.
Appreciate the insights from everyone-- all well founded and truthful.
Have you tried WFUV? It's the Fordham University station and its alternative rock with a lot of new stuff.
Except for Sundays when it's Irish/Celtic.
Just spent time sampling songs on WFUV website, awesome.
I agree with you that rock and great rock bands are declining.
We had to earn that shit back in the day. Walk to the store buy the record and listen to the whole thing...and we were all better off for it.
Now it's too easy. And the music industry is all but fucking dead because of it.
We had to earn that shit back in the day. Walk to the store buy the record and listen to the whole thing...and we were all better off for it.
Now it's too easy. And the music industry is all but fucking dead because of it.
And Get Off My Lawn. :-)
I was always familiar with the song Running Up That Hill, but Stranger Things sent me down a bit of a rabbit hole and now I have Babooshka stuck in my head
We had to earn that shit back in the day. Walk to the store buy the record and listen to the whole thing...and we were all better off for it.
Now it's too easy. And the music industry is all but fucking dead because of it.
What are you getting your data from? And what are you critiquing, the radio?
some of the coolest duded I know are metal guys (and gals)
heck, still going to aftershock festival in october at 58 yrs old!!
Jinjer!! Lamb of god slipnot etc!!
Assuming this is a dig due to the Napster stuff? That was way more about the fact that "I Disappear" from the MI:II soundtrack was being shared before it was even finished and released than it was about money. A lot of people forget that Dr. Dre and others were also part of that lawsuit. Lars and Metallica just became the face of it.
We had to earn that shit back in the day. Walk to the store buy the record and listen to the whole thing...and we were all better off for it.
Now it's too easy. And the music industry is all but fucking dead because of it.
It was very cool sorry I just needed to yell at the cloud.
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how this generation needs music all but spoon fed to them on a platter.
We had to earn that shit back in the day. Walk to the store buy the record and listen to the whole thing...and we were all better off for it.
Now it's too easy. And the music industry is all but fucking dead because of it.
What are you getting your data from? And what are you critiquing, the radio?
Cmon —data? Don’t need it. The rock and roll industry (even rap) is not even close to the 70s-90s. I understand there’s good music out there but it’s not nearly as accessible or even as good. And there’s less quantity too.
Record producers and the titans of industry are fewer in number. There’s leas money to be made thus there’s less good music being made.
We all laughed or ignored it back in the mid 90s but it turns out he was exactly right. Napster and streaming all but killed the industry or at least took a huge bite out of it.
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how this generation needs music all but spoon fed to them on a platter.
We had to earn that shit back in the day. Walk to the store buy the record and listen to the whole thing...and we were all better off for it.
Now it's too easy. And the music industry is all but fucking dead because of it.
What are you getting your data from? And what are you critiquing, the radio?
Cmon —data? Don’t need it. The rock and roll industry (even rap) is not even close to the 70s-90s. I understand there’s good music out there but it’s not nearly as accessible or even as good. And there’s less quantity too.
Record producers and the titans of industry are fewer in number. There’s leas money to be made thus there’s less good music being made.
What I think you're lamenting is the loss of the monoculture, which I actually do agree with. I don't think it's as possible for any music to be as transformative to popular culture as, say, Nirvana was back in 1991.
There's less titans of industry because there is less money to be made in terms of actually selling the music.
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In comment 15748889 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 15748854 djm said:
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how this generation needs music all but spoon fed to them on a platter.
We had to earn that shit back in the day. Walk to the store buy the record and listen to the whole thing...and we were all better off for it.
Now it's too easy. And the music industry is all but fucking dead because of it.
What are you getting your data from? And what are you critiquing, the radio?
Cmon —data? Don’t need it. The rock and roll industry (even rap) is not even close to the 70s-90s. I understand there’s good music out there but it’s not nearly as accessible or even as good. And there’s less quantity too.
Record producers and the titans of industry are fewer in number. There’s leas money to be made thus there’s less good music being made.
music has never been easier to access, its literally all streaming.
What I think you're lamenting is the loss of the monoculture, which I actually do agree with. I don't think it's as possible for any music to be as transformative to popular culture as, say, Nirvana was back in 1991.
There's less titans of industry because there is less money to be made in terms of actually selling the music.
Yep you illustrated it quite well.
And while you had to go work to find music kids today are teaching themselves several instruments at a time and making their own music. Some are self made millionaires being in their early teens.
In terms of monoculture or lack thereof, that’s across the board. People have too much to choose from, no one person or group in the entertainment industry is going to change a culture. That died a long time ago and isn’t coming back. I don’t think that makes music bad now, it’s just not what you are used to. The old way doesnt = the best way. It’s just different.
Ha, I caught that too. Funny because Vecna kind of looks like Eddie.
The demand for vinyl is so great right now that there not enough presses to keep up with it. It is the best way for younger fans to support their favorite musicians and own something physical, and has led to them branching out and discovering other music on vinyl as they get the collection itch. Big box stores like Target, Best Buy, Walmart and even online shops like Amazon are getting their own exclusive color variant releases of vinyl. Not to mention smaller limited run presses by indie shops.
If you want to shake your fist at something, shake it at the big labels and corporations that put the music industry in the situation it is in now, and has historically taken advantage of and fucked over musicians. People will adapt to how they will consume and find new music, and there is a lot of great stuff old and new out there.
I didn't mean to imply that I miss the record companies or titans as much as I miss the way music was produced and presented to us all back in the day.
It aint the same. This isn't even a debate anymore.
Rock is the new jazz. Maybe I misworded my initial thoughts. It's not even close to what it used to be.
And fuck man I wasn't boot licking the record industry as much as I was romanticizing about a bygone era. And it's definitely gone.
THAT is all we need to know.
It has changed. And maybe in some ways its for the best, I guess, but to me the rock n roll genre is dying a very slow death. It will always be around in some capacity, but it won't ever be like it was where anyone aged 10 and up was all but hooked on the genre.
Appreciate the insights from everyone-- all well founded and truthful.
THAT is all we need to know.
It has changed. And maybe in some ways its for the best, I guess, but to me the rock n roll genre is dying a very slow death. It will always be around in some capacity, but it won't ever be like it was where anyone aged 10 and up was all but hooked on the genre.
Appreciate the insights from everyone-- all well founded and truthful.
Have you tried WFUV? It's the Fordham University station and its alternative rock with a lot of new stuff.
Except for Sundays when it's Irish/Celtic.
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classic rock yes. 90s rock yes. Nothing new.
THAT is all we need to know.
It has changed. And maybe in some ways its for the best, I guess, but to me the rock n roll genre is dying a very slow death. It will always be around in some capacity, but it won't ever be like it was where anyone aged 10 and up was all but hooked on the genre.
Appreciate the insights from everyone-- all well founded and truthful.
Have you tried WFUV? It's the Fordham University station and its alternative rock with a lot of new stuff.
Except for Sundays when it's Irish/Celtic.
Just spent time sampling songs on WFUV website, awesome.