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CB Eli Apple not asked if he would Return to the Giants

Semipro Lineman : 2/8/2023 11:30 am
I think this is huge as we all know that Wink's defense depends heavily on cornerbacks who can cover and tackle. Apple's John Madden rating is 74 with a man to man archetype attribute. Plus Apple had 41 solo tackles last year so he covers both functions well.

His current contract is under $4M and according to Sportrac his expect annual salary is in the same range at $11.6M.

So who is with me on the Bring Back Eli bandwagon???

sign him to a cook book deal...  
knowledgetimmons : 2/8/2023 11:34 am : link
I hear he makes a mean grilled cheese.
He fails the Daboll check list  
Ben in Tampa : 2/8/2023 11:38 am : link
3/3
I remember pre draft an Atlanta Falcons coach  
90.Cal : 2/8/2023 11:40 am : link
Knew something wasn’t quite right with Eli Apple so they asked him if he was gay. Can’t make that up. Then we turn around and take him top 10. Flowers and Apple top 10 back to back years really killed us…
he's become a decent player, but a guy like him is probably better  
Victor in CT : 2/8/2023 11:43 am : link
off with a small market team out of the limelight.
RE: He fails the Daboll check list  
Semipro Lineman : 2/8/2023 11:44 am : link
In comment 16027480 Ben in Tampa said:
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3/3


He was dependable enough to played 15 or more games in three of the last four years and was tough enough to make 6 tackles each post season game this year. And we all know how bright he is. All you have to do is listen to how his ex-teammates on the Giants talk about him...
RE: RE: He fails the Daboll check list  
FranknWeezer : 2/8/2023 11:50 am : link
In comment 16027492 Semipro Lineman said:
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In comment 16027480 Ben in Tampa said:


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3/3



He was dependable enough to played 15 or more games in three of the last four years and was tough enough to make 6 tackles each post season game this year. And we all know how bright he is. All you have to do is listen to how his ex-teammates on the Giants talk about him...


You mean talk about him like this?

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Collins called the 2016 first-round pick a cancer during a radio interview Tuesday with Bob Wischusen of ESPN, per Ian O'Connor of ESPN.com.

"There is only one corner who needs to grow up and we all know who that is," Collins said, per Jordan Raanan of ESPN. "That would be the only person I would change out of our secondary group. Besides, the other two guys, [Rodgers-Cromarie] and [Jenkins], I love those two guys. They play hard. They love what they do. That first pick...he's a cancer."

Landon Collins on Eli Apple - ( New Window )
We really  
Keaton028 : 2/8/2023 12:01 pm : link
gonna start banging the drum for Eli Apple? The whole league considers this dude a clown. Come on now. He brings way too much unnecessary drama, and he isn't good enough to make it worth putting up with him.
Are we really citing Madden player ratings  
bwitz : 2/8/2023 12:02 pm : link
as reasons to sign players now? Really?
RE: Are we really citing Madden player ratings  
Semipro Lineman : 2/8/2023 12:04 pm : link
In comment 16027514 bwitz said:
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as reasons to sign players now? Really?


;-)
RE: RE: Are we really citing Madden player ratings  
Keaton028 : 2/8/2023 12:07 pm : link
In comment 16027515 Semipro Lineman said:
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as reasons to sign players now? Really?



;-)


Ah ok lol. I got got and missed the sarcasm. Well done haha
My favorite Eli Apple moment.  
MOOPS : 2/8/2023 12:15 pm : link


Keep this loser  
Jay on the Island : 2/8/2023 12:19 pm : link
as far away from the Giants as possible. What's next a thread to bring back Ereck Flowers?
Fabian Moreau makes less money and I think is  
cosmicj : 2/8/2023 12:23 pm : link
A better player.
A move Lloyd Christmas would love  
NoPeanutz : 2/8/2023 12:34 pm : link
RE: I remember pre draft an Atlanta Falcons coach  
Spiciest Memelord : 2/8/2023 1:14 pm : link
In comment 16027486 90.Cal said:
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Knew something wasn’t quite right with Eli Apple so they asked him if he was gay. Can’t make that up. Then we turn around and take him top 10. Flowers and Apple top 10 back to back years really killed us…


Prince was another player who dropped because of "character concerns" and of course the Giants scoop him up.
Fuck no  
BillT : 2/8/2023 1:17 pm : link
Are you fucking kidding.
The OP is joking, right?  
I Love Clams Casino : 2/8/2023 1:23 pm : link
must be....the guy is not worth the headaches....and then there's his mother.....
Not a culture fit  
Rudy5757 : 2/8/2023 1:26 pm : link
He’s a good player but he’s not a good fit for the Giants personality wise. Did you forget his mom?
People  
MotownGIANTS : 2/8/2023 1:34 pm : link
dont like his personality so they diminish his "pro" traits and highlight his "con" ones when discussing him as a player ... He is good for a soundbite that is most of the league. He using the negative pub to stay relevant, an old media/PR tactic old as dirt.
People  
MotownGIANTS : 2/8/2023 1:36 pm : link
dont like his personality so they diminish his "pro" traits and highlight his "con" ones when discussing him as a player ... He is good for a soundbite that is most of the league. He's using the negative pub to stay relevant, an old media/PR tactic old as dirt.
You are using Madden ratings to say he's good?  
sb from NYT Forum : 2/8/2023 1:45 pm : link
What a freakin joke. He stinks. Read it and weep:

Cincinnati Bengals CB Eli Apple: Does his play back up the talk?

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Over his time with Cincinnati, Apple has earned just a 55.4 PFF coverage and allowed a 101.5 passer rating into his coverage. He has just two interceptions but has been beaten for 11 touchdowns.

While rookie Sauce Gardner led the NFL with an 88.5 PFF grade at cornerback this season, Apple’s 53.3 mark ranks 68th at a position where only 64 players start.



RE: You are using Madden ratings to say he's good?  
sb from NYT Forum : 2/8/2023 1:46 pm : link
In comment 16027626 sb from NYT Forum said:
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What a freakin joke. He stinks. Read it and weep:

Cincinnati Bengals CB Eli Apple: Does his play back up the talk?

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Over his time with Cincinnati, Apple has earned just a 55.4 PFF coverage and allowed a 101.5 passer rating into his coverage. He has just two interceptions but has been beaten for 11 touchdowns.

While rookie Sauce Gardner led the NFL with an 88.5 PFF grade at cornerback this season, Apple’s 53.3 mark ranks 68th at a position where only 64 players start.





ooops, sarcasm over my head too, sorry!
Eli  
Toth029 : 2/8/2023 1:51 pm : link
Apple's tackle rate is not good at all.

Not sure if the OP was joking or not but, let's say no.
No effing way.  
Red Dog : 2/8/2023 1:53 pm : link
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I think he rates something like #68  
Gruber : 2/8/2023 2:17 pm : link
among cornerbacks.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Bengals draft a cornerback to replace the little prick.
We need to hire armed guards  
Blue Dream : 2/8/2023 2:21 pm : link
At the practice facility to prevent that from happening
RE: I think he rates something like #68  
Toth029 : 2/8/2023 4:05 pm : link
In comment 16027660 Gruber said:
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among cornerbacks.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Bengals draft a cornerback to replace the little prick.


They drafted Cam Taylor-Britt and he'll take Apple's job next season.
how about Deandre Baker as well?  
santacruzom : 2/8/2023 4:16 pm : link
We'll have the Apple Baker secondary.
though I suppose the term  
santacruzom : 2/8/2023 4:17 pm : link
"Apple Baker" should apply to any good wide receiver who faces Eli Apple.
RE: I think he rates something like #68  
MotownGIANTS : 2/8/2023 6:03 pm : link
In comment 16027660 Gruber said:
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among cornerbacks.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Bengals draft a cornerback to replace the little prick.


He is an avg #2 CB so in that vein that is about where he should be ...
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/8/2023 6:33 pm : link
I don't know which Giant first rounder of the past decade I detested more: Apple, Flowers, or Engram. Engram, for all the shit he got here, seems like a good dude. Apple & Flowers are both complete jackasses. Gun to head...I'd go Apple.
I choked on the Eli Apple pick  
Paulie Walnuts : 2/8/2023 7:39 pm : link
I still dont like him pass
RE: ...  
SomeFan : 2/8/2023 8:49 pm : link
In comment 16027821 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I don't know which Giant first rounder of the past decade I detested more: Apple, Flowers, or Engram. Engram, for all the shit he got here, seems like a good dude. Apple & Flowers are both complete jackasses. Gun to head...I'd go Apple.
Engram gives great effort and isn’t flakey like Apple. I don’t view them similarly.
RE: RE: I think he rates something like #68  
Gruber : 2/9/2023 12:05 am : link
In comment 16027798 MotownGIANTS said:
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In comment 16027660 Gruber said:


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among cornerbacks.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Bengals draft a cornerback to replace the little prick.



He is an avg #2 CB so in that vein that is about where he should be ...


He's ranked #68 where only 64 players start.
So, no he's not average, he's way below average.
Why the F  
shocktheworld : 2/9/2023 1:09 am : link
Would you want that POS back? Him and his mom can stay far away from NYG-land haha
RE: RE: RE: I think he rates something like #68  
MotownGIANTS : 2/9/2023 9:34 am : link
In comment 16028082 Gruber said:
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In comment 16027798 MotownGIANTS said:


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In comment 16027660 Gruber said:


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among cornerbacks.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Bengals draft a cornerback to replace the little prick.



He is an avg #2 CB so in that vein that is about where he should be ...



He's ranked #68 where only 64 players start.
So, no he's not average, he's way below average.


So in a league that is a passing league and your top THREE CBs are basically starters he is in that group, those are the facts.
I just checked Twitter  
Semipro Lineman : 2/9/2023 10:12 am : link
No one has asked CB Eli Apple if he would return to the Giants today either...
He should be given a huge.....  
Fishmanjim57 : 2/9/2023 2:02 pm : link
HELL NO!, by the New York Football Giants!
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