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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/10/2023 8:08 pm
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Bad weather in a primetime game?  
scrimmage : 9/10/2023 8:09 pm : link
Give me the home team. Lets go Giants!!!
Enough talk, play ball  
mfsd : 9/10/2023 8:11 pm : link
LFG GMen!!
GO  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 8:11 pm : link
GIANTS!
Not feeling too confident  
JT039 : 9/10/2023 8:11 pm : link
Until we can show we can beat these guys.
...  
christian : 9/10/2023 8:11 pm : link
I'm really looking forward to seeing a more confident more dynamic Daniel Jones. Last time he was on the field he got put in the hurt locker. I hope he comes out angry.
It's game time!  
UberAlias : 9/10/2023 8:12 pm : link
LFG!
if Gray is indeed returning punts  
mphbullet36 : 9/10/2023 8:12 pm : link
that would be an area of concern...hasn't done it much and in a big game with bad weather. Just tell him to do the Coughlin strategy and just don't get anywhere near the punt.
Most of the SNF crew on NBC picked Dallas  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 8:13 pm : link
To the surprise of…nobody…
Let’s go!!!!  
JB_in_DC : 9/10/2023 8:13 pm : link
All starts here.
Let’s go!!!  
beatrixkiddo : 9/10/2023 8:14 pm : link
Woot woot!
My dad  
Mr. Nickels : 9/10/2023 8:15 pm : link
passed away during this game last year and it just hit me again

RIP Dad

Let's go Giants
Good luck!  
igotyourbackman : 9/10/2023 8:15 pm : link
GMen fans and team!
It’s not out of the question that  
bubba0825 : 9/10/2023 8:16 pm : link
This game get delayed at some point due to lightning
Happy New Year, folks!  
bceagle05 : 9/10/2023 8:16 pm : link
Let’s start with a dub!
RE: My dad  
bluefin : 9/10/2023 8:17 pm : link
In comment 16197725 Mr. Nickels said:
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passed away during this game last year and it just hit me again

RIP Dad

Let's go Giants

we’re with you brother
RE: My dad  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 8:18 pm : link
In comment 16197725 Mr. Nickels said:
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passed away during this game last year and it just hit me again

RIP Dad

Let's go Giants


My condolences for your loss. Let's win the game for your father.
Giants 23 Cowboys 20  
90.Cal : 9/10/2023 8:18 pm : link
Saquon runs for 100 & 2 TDs
Dak Fumbles and throws a pick
Dexter 2 Sacks, Parsons 2 Sacks

Lets
Go
Giants
We know who is playing LG for Dallas  
gersh : 9/10/2023 8:18 pm : link
?
I like the Giants' chances.  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 8:19 pm : link
I like the NYG coaching staff vs. McCarty. Dan Quinn and Parsons worry me though. I alo think Eric was right about the giants messing with the Cowboys by putting Waller on the injury report.
Got some goose bumps going here  
thefan : 9/10/2023 8:20 pm : link
fellas
Moment of silence and anthem were beautiful  
j_rud : 9/10/2023 8:22 pm : link
Now let's fucking go!!!
Dallas won coin flip  
DaveInTampa : 9/10/2023 8:23 pm : link
And deferred. Gmen on offense first
Very  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 8:23 pm : link
nice national anthem.
Dak is possessed...  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 8:23 pm : link
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RE: My dad  
christian : 9/10/2023 8:24 pm : link
In comment 16197725 Mr. Nickels said:
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passed away during this game last year and it just hit me again

RIP Dad

Let's go Giants


God bless you brother.
let's go offense  
PetesHereNow : 9/10/2023 8:24 pm : link
smart plays, good with the ball, let's go.
Raining  
George : 9/10/2023 8:25 pm : link
DBs for both teams will be will be challenged
Dirty  
jpkmets : 9/10/2023 8:26 pm : link
Cowboys!
Jones  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 8:26 pm : link
got clobbered by Kearse.
Saquon running  
jpkmets : 9/10/2023 8:27 pm : link
hard early!
Laugh at me but  
Ike#88 : 9/10/2023 8:27 pm : link
when players hit a QB giving themselves up they should have to leave the game for a series. Like being in penalty box in hockey.
...  
christian : 9/10/2023 8:27 pm : link
I hate Barkley in the screen game.
That guy that hit Jones  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 8:27 pm : link
Should be kicked out of the game! Collingsworth doesn’t even touch on that. He sucks.
Go deep now  
bluefin : 9/10/2023 8:27 pm : link
!
RE: Laugh at me but  
jpkmets : 9/10/2023 8:28 pm : link
In comment 16197748 Ike#88 said:
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when players hit a QB giving themselves up they should have to leave the game for a series. Like being in penalty box in hockey.


I’d co-sign for this.
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christian : 9/10/2023 8:28 pm : link
I love Barkley in the run game.
Saquads lookin quick  
widmerseyebrow : 9/10/2023 8:28 pm : link
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Just early  
jpkmets : 9/10/2023 8:28 pm : link
Smash mouth. Quite nice
RE: RE: Laugh at me but  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 8:28 pm : link
In comment 16197752 jpkmets said:
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In comment 16197748 Ike#88 said:


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when players hit a QB giving themselves up they should have to leave the game for a series. Like being in penalty box in hockey.



I’d co-sign for this.


+2.
power game is online  
thefan : 9/10/2023 8:29 pm : link
boys
I say run the ball  
cpgiants : 9/10/2023 8:29 pm : link
Until they stop it
Great block by Belly  
widmerseyebrow : 9/10/2023 8:29 pm : link
who needs a fullback?
Ugh.  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 8:30 pm : link
Had to burn a TO.
...  
christian : 9/10/2023 8:30 pm : link
That's a killer play call to Jones on the designed run.
RE: Great block by Belly  
wonderback : 9/10/2023 8:30 pm : link
In comment 16197759 widmerseyebrow said:
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who needs a fullback?


He is the fullback!!!
RE: Ugh.  
Wiggy : 9/10/2023 8:31 pm : link
In comment 16197760 AcidTest said:
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Had to burn a TO.

My feed is really behind yours. I read ur message before the to here
RE: Saquads lookin quick  
mfsd : 9/10/2023 8:32 pm : link
In comment 16197754 widmerseyebrow said:
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Yes he does, hitting holes hard
RE: RE: Ugh.  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 8:32 pm : link
In comment 16197763 Wiggy said:
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In comment 16197760 AcidTest said:


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Had to burn a TO.


My feed is really behind yours. I read ur message before the to here


Sorry your feed is behind. Glad I could help.
I guess we don’t get the start a millimeter early  
Essex : 9/10/2023 8:32 pm : link
Like Lane Johnson
They have let that start go all weekend  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 8:33 pm : link
but then those MFers call it on the Giants?!
Rookie center  
thefan : 9/10/2023 8:33 pm : link
in the rain. Yep
...  
christian : 9/10/2023 8:33 pm : link
Balls
The first person...  
Brown_Hornet : 9/10/2023 8:33 pm : link
... who complains about the style of snap is The biggest loser.
......  
Route 9 : 9/10/2023 8:33 pm : link
Garbage
FN  
thefan : 9/10/2023 8:33 pm : link
BRUTAL
Awful  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 8:34 pm : link
snap kills the drive, and now a blocked FG for a TD by Dallas. Unbelievable.
Contract for Gano  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 8:34 pm : link
TD for Dallas
Thanks T-Mac  
guitarguybs12 : 9/10/2023 8:34 pm : link
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That was a great recovery...  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 8:34 pm : link
by Jones actually.
Get rid of the ST coordinator  
BestFeature : 9/10/2023 8:34 pm : link
.
...  
christian : 9/10/2023 8:34 pm : link
More balls
Here we go...  
Brown_Hornet : 9/10/2023 8:34 pm : link
... game on Giants.
can't happen JMS  
mphbullet36 : 9/10/2023 8:34 pm : link
this is the NFL
Thank you oline  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 8:34 pm : link
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You’ve gotta be fucking kidding me  
Knickstape : 9/10/2023 8:34 pm : link
….
Peak Giants, right there  
islander1 : 9/10/2023 8:34 pm : link
Fools gold.
Of course that happens  
UConn4523 : 9/10/2023 8:34 pm : link
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Unbelievable  
jeff57 : 9/10/2023 8:34 pm : link
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Wait  
thefan : 9/10/2023 8:34 pm : link
The Dallas kicker never kicked in college?
Deadball snap my @$$  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 8:34 pm : link
STs collapse too.

Fudge
Special teams coach  
thrunthrublue : 9/10/2023 8:35 pm : link
Picking up from where he left off last season…..
As soon as that ball was snapped  
NYerInMA : 9/10/2023 8:35 pm : link
You could tell it was going to be blocked. Inexcusable.
JFC...  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 8:35 pm : link
...that was insane.
.  
Banks : 9/10/2023 8:35 pm : link
Those first six minutes were awesome and then the last 3 plays were steel tipped boot kicks to the nuts
Well that sucks  
US1 Giants : 9/10/2023 8:35 pm : link
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Such a promising start  
No1MDGiantsFan : 9/10/2023 8:35 pm : link
Followed by 3 complete disasters FML
Unreal  
DaveInTampa : 9/10/2023 8:35 pm : link
So deflating
I hate the fucking Cowboys.  
bceagle05 : 9/10/2023 8:35 pm : link
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Remember  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 8:35 pm : link
we gave up a PR for a TD during the preseason.
Ok, who was supposed to have that guy?  
81_Great_Dane : 9/10/2023 8:35 pm : link
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WTF!?!?  
mfsd : 9/10/2023 8:35 pm : link
We’re just not going to block on a FG?
JMS cost us there  
mphbullet36 : 9/10/2023 8:35 pm : link
can't happen
We can never just line up and fuck this team  
widmerseyebrow : 9/10/2023 8:35 pm : link
From start to finish. Always gotta be struggle.
Jesus  
illmatic : 9/10/2023 8:35 pm : link
Crazy start to this game. Way up and then way down. Then Dallas misses the extra point.
This felt like 1995.  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 8:35 pm : link
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Unreal  
Breeze_94 : 9/10/2023 8:35 pm : link
Schmitz…that’s a 9 or 13 point swing caused by him rolling one back.

F****** h***  
cosmicj : 9/10/2023 8:35 pm : link
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Just according to plan  
gersh : 9/10/2023 8:36 pm : link
Their defense is going to get gassed
3 o li e mistakes after all that success  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 8:36 pm : link
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Unacceptable  
JB_in_DC : 9/10/2023 8:36 pm : link
Way to give up points.
Our special teams gonna prove to be special once  
Knickstape : 9/10/2023 8:36 pm : link
Again. Awful ass coordinator
Spot them 6  
Paulie Walnuts : 9/10/2023 8:36 pm : link
Argh
Thomas hurt  
Ben in Tampa : 9/10/2023 8:36 pm : link
Fuck me
I would love to  
bluesince56 : 9/10/2023 8:36 pm : link
hear the HC on the sidelines right now
RE: Thomas hurt  
markky : 9/10/2023 8:36 pm : link
In comment 16197810 Ben in Tampa said:
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Fuck me


details?
Unbelievable  
Bramton1 : 9/10/2023 8:36 pm : link
A nice drive, then suddenly False Start, Bad Snap, Blocked FG.
Still  
Toth029 : 9/10/2023 8:37 pm : link
Don't understand why the STs has so many issues year after year.
Why I never get my hopes up  
JT039 : 9/10/2023 8:37 pm : link
We always make the dumbest mistake against Dallas. That couldn’t go worse if we scripted it.
RE: Unreal  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 8:37 pm : link
In comment 16197803 Breeze_94 said:
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Schmitz…that’s a 9 or 13 point swing caused by him rolling one back.
And Thomas and specials letting them walk in on that FG. That was the easiest block I have ever seen
Horrible.  
rocco8112 : 9/10/2023 8:37 pm : link
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These games count.
RE: Thomas hurt  
Paulie Walnuts : 9/10/2023 8:37 pm : link
In comment 16197810 Ben in Tampa said:
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Fuck me
what?
For all the good things Daboll has done  
Greg from LI : 9/10/2023 8:37 pm : link
The neglect of the special teams is going to keep biting them in the ass this year
Another long drive here  
cpgiants : 9/10/2023 8:37 pm : link
And our defense should be very well rested for the fourth quarter
RE: RE: Thomas hurt  
Ben in Tampa : 9/10/2023 8:37 pm : link
In comment 16197813 markky said:
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In comment 16197810 Ben in Tampa said:


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Fuck me



details?


On twitter, he’s on sideline getting attention
wilbon lighting a cigarette  
NoPeanutz : 9/10/2023 8:37 pm : link
after that return. He'll sleep like a baby tonight.
RE: Get rid of the ST coordinator  
Rory : 9/10/2023 8:37 pm : link
In comment 16197777 BestFeature said:
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please take a fork and stab yourself in the eye so you stop posting.
Let’s go  
bluefin : 9/10/2023 8:37 pm : link
another drive
Wish we had John Fassel coaching the Special Teams here.  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 8:38 pm : link
Guy's ST units are almost always on point.
If Jones...  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 8:38 pm : link
can take some punishment, he can run for 100+ yards tonight.

Dallas can't set the edge and their back five/six drop deep to try to cover any throw on the run.
Thomas back on the field  
Ben in Tampa : 9/10/2023 8:38 pm : link
So hopefully he is ok
RE: Still  
bluesince56 : 9/10/2023 8:38 pm : link
In comment 16197815 Toth029 said:
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Don't understand why the STs has so many issues year after year.



Coaching
RE: For all the good things Daboll has done  
mfsd : 9/10/2023 8:38 pm : link
In comment 16197820 Greg from LI said:
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The neglect of the special teams is going to keep biting them in the ass this year


Yup
 
christian : 9/10/2023 8:38 pm : link
The Thomas false start was bad as well.
Interested D attacking.  
Joe Beckwith : 9/10/2023 8:38 pm : link
Block guy down to the ground, 2nd guy leaps through the spot, blocks kick.
BBI Mute Chrome Extension  
widmerseyebrow : 9/10/2023 8:38 pm : link
fyi...
Link - ( New Window )
RE: Just according to plan  
Wiggy : 9/10/2023 8:38 pm : link
In comment 16197805 gersh said:
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Their defense is going to get gassed

I like ur optimism
RE: Thomas hurt  
US1 Giants : 9/10/2023 8:38 pm : link
In comment 16197810 Ben in Tampa said:
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Fuck me


If Thomas is hurt along with that turnover TD, I can't imagine a worse start to this game.
Rookies and wet footballs=long snapper nightmare  
MeanBunny : 9/10/2023 8:38 pm : link
What IS going on now??? The OLine is still a fracking mess
What was that?  
bubba0825 : 9/10/2023 8:38 pm : link
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No protection  
rocco8112 : 9/10/2023 8:38 pm : link
On Jones in seconds

Nobody  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 8:38 pm : link
blocked Fowler.
team speed is great  
bluefin : 9/10/2023 8:39 pm : link
if you’re line can block
If Andrew Thomas...  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 8:39 pm : link
was playing Thursday night, that wasn't a penalty.
Pass blocking just might  
CT Charlie : 9/10/2023 8:39 pm : link
be an issue this seasn.
Dumb design  
Kanavis : 9/10/2023 8:39 pm : link
Hate when they rely on a pulling lineman to block someone rushing in.
Wasnt anticipating the OL would look this poor  
j_rud : 9/10/2023 8:39 pm : link
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I mean they are in his face every down  
Essex : 9/10/2023 8:39 pm : link
Domination  
rocco8112 : 9/10/2023 8:40 pm : link
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Wow
We need OL  
Joe Beckwith : 9/10/2023 8:40 pm : link
Post haste.
Or Tyrod will be our QB the rest of the season.
welp Time to spool up the Vikings Playoff game just in case.  
guitarguybs12 : 9/10/2023 8:40 pm : link
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Any time you guys wanna block  
NYerInMA : 9/10/2023 8:40 pm : link
That would be great...
This punt  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 8:40 pm : link
will be an adventure
Same ol' oline  
islander1 : 9/10/2023 8:40 pm : link
New season, same story.

Incompetence.
Every season I ask  
EdS56 : 9/10/2023 8:40 pm : link
Are we just snakebit? What a drive to start off then…
wow  
gtt350 : 9/10/2023 8:40 pm : link
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This shit is a disaster  
Knickstape : 9/10/2023 8:40 pm : link
My lord
Can anyone block  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 8:40 pm : link
,
And  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 8:40 pm : link
then we go three and out. Parsons is killing us already. The pass protection is nonexistent.
Someone tell the  
rocco8112 : 9/10/2023 8:41 pm : link
Online this game counts.
Jones does not have any time to pass  
BestFeature : 9/10/2023 8:41 pm : link
Our O-line again is bottom of the barrell garbage. I'm convinced it'll never be good again.
JFC...  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 8:41 pm : link
...brilliant G play.
RE: Wasnt anticipating the OL would look this poor  
mfsd : 9/10/2023 8:41 pm : link
In comment 16197844 j_rud said:
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Our rookie center having a rough start to his career
offensive line is going to kill our season again?  
mphbullet36 : 9/10/2023 8:41 pm : link
unreal
When will the o-line  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 8:41 pm : link
be fixed?
 
christian : 9/10/2023 8:41 pm : link
Good to see the pass protection is in mind season form.
Looking  
Silver Spoon : 9/10/2023 8:41 pm : link
Good.
Everything turned  
jeff57 : 9/10/2023 8:41 pm : link
They were moving the ball well. I hate night games.
How long until we can block a stunt?  
larryflower37 : 9/10/2023 8:41 pm : link
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Your running the ball well  
bluesince56 : 9/10/2023 8:41 pm : link
And you come out and throw three times. I don’t get it.
I think it's mental at this point.  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 8:41 pm : link
This team lines up against Dallas (or Philly) and loses all confidence. Against other teams they show up to play.
Not going anywhere  
JT039 : 9/10/2023 8:41 pm : link
With this OL.
Interesting blocking technique  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 8:41 pm : link
against Parsons
RE: For all the good things Daboll has done  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 8:41 pm : link
In comment 16197820 Greg from LI said:
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The neglect of the special teams is going to keep biting them in the ass this year


This is I agree with. They should have held onto Crowder. The punter is meh too. Coverage units are a lil sus.
OL can’t block these guys  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 8:41 pm : link
I think it’s gonna be a long night.
Think they should have played more in the preseason  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 8:41 pm : link
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This could get really ugly  
NYDCBlue : 9/10/2023 8:42 pm : link
If we can't figure out how to block anyone on any unit. Offense or Special teams....

That punt was nearly blocked also.
A bit early to call this a disaster  
thefan : 9/10/2023 8:42 pm : link
Lets get a look at this defense. Revamped depth, shiny new MLB, shiny new corners. Better top to bottom. Bring the terror.
Glowinski  
Costy16 : 9/10/2023 8:42 pm : link
Is a fucking stiff
What changed  
cpgiants : 9/10/2023 8:42 pm : link
From the first to the second Drive
Go back to running it  
MotownGIANTS : 9/10/2023 8:42 pm : link
let them settle down ....

Run game was working
SOSDY  
Stu11 : 9/10/2023 8:42 pm : link
till we can block these guys and the Eagles all the BS about "closing the talent gap" will be just that BS.
It's incredible how well the first drive was going  
Bramton1 : 9/10/2023 8:42 pm : link
And now suddenly, the Cowboys are able to get the ball with the chance to go up two scores
Why not keep pounding the rock and running screens?  
NorcalNYG : 9/10/2023 8:42 pm : link
I don't like the playcalls in that 3 n out
Was that Glowinski...  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 8:42 pm : link
who whiffed, btw?
RE: What changed  
gersh : 9/10/2023 8:42 pm : link
In comment 16197878 cpgiants said:
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From the first to the second Drive


Yes, the whole o line looks bad, but he looks particularly awful
RE: Every season I ask  
Essex : 9/10/2023 8:42 pm : link
In comment 16197853 EdS56 said:
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Are we just snakebit? What a drive to start off then…

No, we haven’t yet hit on an OL besides Thomas so the same thing happens. JMS and Neal are TBD, but until we fix that we are going to have issues and you can’t skill position (not that we have such great skill position players besides Barkley and Waller) your way out of it. We need Neal and JMS to be good and then go from there
SOS  
CV36 : 9/10/2023 8:42 pm : link
….
OL blocking is pathetic  
beatrixkiddo : 9/10/2023 8:42 pm : link
Guys just going through the motions it looks. Just looks sloppy.
The  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 8:42 pm : link
Giants OL is still having a lot of trouble with speed rushers, just like last year. They also look like they aren't on the same page, which is making that problem worse. This is still an OL that is better going forward than backward.
I can only listen via WFAN but it sounds bad....  
SGMen : 9/10/2023 8:43 pm : link
The OL is getting schooled and rookie OC bad snap really hurts.
Man Glowinski really is the latest  
widmerseyebrow : 9/10/2023 8:43 pm : link
free agent offensive lineman to join the Giants o-line retirement home.
Defense needs to make a play  
larryflower37 : 9/10/2023 8:43 pm : link
Need to stop the bleeding now
Parsons is scary good  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 8:43 pm : link
Who didn't want him for the Giants again? Was it Gettleman, the Maras, or Judge? This kid is a wrecking ball.
Apparently  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 8:43 pm : link
the 0-line is a 15 year project or at least I hope it is that fast.
RE: Was that Glowinski...  
Greg from LI : 9/10/2023 8:43 pm : link
In comment 16197883 bw in dc said:
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who whiffed, btw?


Yes
RE: Was that Glowinski...  
gersh : 9/10/2023 8:43 pm : link
In comment 16197883 bw in dc said:
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who whiffed, btw?


Yes, I replied to the wrong post. Glowinski looks horrible.
Glowinski still sucks balls  
WillVAB : 9/10/2023 8:43 pm : link
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RE: Glowinski  
jeff57 : 9/10/2023 8:43 pm : link
In comment 16197877 Costy16 said:
[quote] Is a fucking stiff [/quote

He is. And so is Bredenson. Bargain basement guards.
Recap of the OL...  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 8:44 pm : link
in eight minutes of game time:

- - AT false start.
- - JSM bad snap.
- - Glowinski a clown block.

I would’ve kept running  
Bizfoodie : 9/10/2023 8:44 pm : link
They couldn’t stop the game besides the one play Barkley tried to spin out. Parsons is going to wreck the game it looks like
I said it..  
prdave73 : 9/10/2023 8:44 pm : link
You can be successful without an Oline. The Giants have been lacking this position for how long now?? smh. Also, Teh Giants not drafting Parsons will haunt the Giants for years to come. That's the facts..
Maybe shuffling the line constantly before the season  
DlineDominance : 9/10/2023 8:44 pm : link
Is just dumb...
Playing like this  
thrunthrublue : 9/10/2023 8:44 pm : link
Equals high draft picks…..wow 64 is slower than those tackling dummies parsons slapped around all summer….
Oh FFS  
jeff57 : 9/10/2023 8:45 pm : link
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Parsons  
Ike#88 : 9/10/2023 8:45 pm : link
Gettleman did not want him but he wanted Toney.
We’re not winning tonight  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 8:45 pm : link
Another year getting swept by Dallas…
These guys  
Silver Spoon : 9/10/2023 8:45 pm : link
suck. Embarrassing.
Punched in the face and embarrassed  
bwitz : 9/10/2023 8:45 pm : link
Hopefully they can come back.
Is the game tonight or tomorrow?.  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 8:46 pm : link
.
Jesus...what a pick that was...  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 8:46 pm : link
...
what a shit show  
bluefin : 9/10/2023 8:46 pm : link
.
RE: Parsons  
prdave73 : 9/10/2023 8:46 pm : link
In comment 16197905 Ike#88 said:
Quote:
Gettleman did not want him but he wanted Toney.


You can;t make mistakes like that and think it won't affect the team for years..
Jesus man come on  
Knickstape : 9/10/2023 8:46 pm : link
Another year and continuous ass whoopings at the hands of eagles and cowboys
Embarrassing  
ZogZerg : 9/10/2023 8:46 pm : link
.
RE: RE: Was that Glowinski...  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 8:46 pm : link
In comment 16197895 gersh said:
Quote:
In comment 16197883 bw in dc said:


Quote:


who whiffed, btw?



Yes, I replied to the wrong post. Glowinski looks horrible.


How many more picks can we throw at the line with the same results? Something deeper is wrong.

Our pass rush is non-existent. Cowboys seem to be able to find offensive linemen anywhere in or out of the draft.
RE: We’re not winning tonight  
OBJRoyal : 9/10/2023 8:46 pm : link
In comment 16197906 The_Boss said:
Quote:
Another year getting swept by Dallas…


Sometime the other team is better.

The Giants are on the right path
Well this one might go off early  
No1MDGiantsFan : 9/10/2023 8:46 pm : link
🥱
RE: Parsons  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 8:46 pm : link
In comment 16197905 Ike#88 said:
Quote:
Gettleman did not want him but he wanted Toney.
That is breathtaking
RE: RE: We’re not winning tonight  
Essex : 9/10/2023 8:47 pm : link
In comment 16197916 OBJRoyal said:
Quote:
In comment 16197906 The_Boss said:


Quote:


Another year getting swept by Dallas…



Sometime the other team is better.

The Giants are on the right path


To where?
Dak  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 8:47 pm : link
has a lot of time to throw. Jones has none.
RE: Parsons  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 8:47 pm : link
In comment 16197905 Ike#88 said:
Quote:
Gettleman did not want him but he wanted Toney.


I think it was Judge and O'Brien who wanted Toney, not Gettleman. Those two dummies won out over DG.
RE: RE: We’re not winning tonight  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 8:47 pm : link
In comment 16197916 OBJRoyal said:
Quote:
In comment 16197906 The_Boss said:


Quote:


Another year getting swept by Dallas…



Sometime the other team is better.

The Giants are on the right path


It's been all the time the last few years. It gets old. Even Washington beats Dallas and Philly every now and then.
Sounds like the OL will be our Achilles Heel again  
Rick in Dallas : 9/10/2023 8:47 pm : link
The more things change the more they stay the same
RE: Jesus man come on  
islander1 : 9/10/2023 8:47 pm : link
In comment 16197913 Knickstape said:
Quote:
Another year and continuous ass whoopings at the hands of eagles and cowboys


This is why I'm constantly a Debbie downer. Hype is imaginary. Show me actual evidence one of these years...
If Dallas goes up 13-0 this quick  
SGMen : 9/10/2023 8:47 pm : link
This could be a blowout.
Great D...  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 8:48 pm : link
there on 2nd down.
Complete chaos.  
bceagle05 : 9/10/2023 8:48 pm : link
.
Big 3rd down  
Knickstape : 9/10/2023 8:48 pm : link
Get a stop
Two timeouts in 1Q!  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 8:48 pm : link
!
I know it's early but I'm getting big time 2017 vibes  
BestFeature : 9/10/2023 8:48 pm : link
.
RE: Parsons  
Banks : 9/10/2023 8:48 pm : link
In comment 16197905 Ike#88 said:
Quote:
Gettleman did not want him but he wanted Toney.

that was a judge pick
RE: Dak  
prdave73 : 9/10/2023 8:48 pm : link
In comment 16197920 AcidTest said:
Quote:
has a lot of time to throw. Jones has none.



Exactly. See what a good offensive line can do?!
That pick  
wonderback : 9/10/2023 8:48 pm : link
Was legal ?
Two timeouts in the first quarter  
JT039 : 9/10/2023 8:48 pm : link
We aren’t only sucking but woefully unprepared
Thibs getting pushed all over  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 8:48 pm : link
So far
 
christian : 9/10/2023 8:48 pm : link
Daboll channeling some of the legacy clown stuff so far.
The annoying thing for me to this point is: We've seen this before.  
81_Great_Dane : 9/10/2023 8:48 pm : link
Giants come out strong. Opening drive fizzles. Big mistake and they're trailing. Next drive, 3-and-out. Opponent drives down the field.

Doesn't that feel really familiar?

I'm not a "same old Giants" guy but I'd like to see a different script.
Same old  
TommyWiseau : 9/10/2023 8:48 pm : link
Story
RE: I know it's early but I'm getting big time 2017 vibes  
Greg from LI : 9/10/2023 8:49 pm : link
In comment 16197930 BestFeature said:
Quote:
.


I’m getting 1995 vibes
Why is the team not prepared?  
RCPhoenix : 9/10/2023 8:49 pm : link
Ugh
And  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 8:49 pm : link
now we burn another TO.

Gettleman did not want Toney at #20. Toney was a Judge pick. Gettleman apparently wanted Darrisaw. The question is whether he wanted the trade with Chicago, which made drafting Parsons impossible.
Good stop. As good as can be expected  
MeanBunny : 9/10/2023 8:49 pm : link
Offense needs to wake up and snap into it. All that ball control on the first possession went to crap Now it's panic time
Love Dabs but  
bluefin : 9/10/2023 8:49 pm : link
this team doesn’t look ready
RE: RE: We’re not winning tonight  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 8:49 pm : link
In comment 16197916 OBJRoyal said:
Quote:
In comment 16197906 The_Boss said:


Quote:


Another year getting swept by Dallas…



Sometime the other team is better.

The Giants are on the right path


You're not wrong. I just hope the Giants don't go winless this regular season again against the Cowboys and Eagles. The only two games that I think they can win are this one and the last one of the season (the Eagles might not have anything to play for then).
RE: I can only listen via WFAN but it sounds bad....  
DisgruntledNYGfan : 9/10/2023 8:49 pm : link
In comment 16197889 SGMen said:
Quote:
The OL is getting schooled and rookie OC bad snap really hurts.


Team looks disjointed and out of sorts.
RE: RE: Parsons  
TommyWiseau : 9/10/2023 8:49 pm : link
In comment 16197931 Banks said:
Quote:
In comment 16197905 Ike#88 said:


Quote:


Gettleman did not want him but he wanted Toney.


that was a judge pick


Yep, from what I understanr, Judge wanted Toney
.  
Banks : 9/10/2023 8:50 pm : link
good stop. score and we are right back in it
Great chip...  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 8:50 pm : link
and rush by X.
RE: That pick  
Spider56 : 9/10/2023 8:50 pm : link
In comment 16197933 wonderback said:
Quote:
Was legal ?


If it’s not called it must be legal.
Let’s go. Go get a fucking score  
Knickstape : 9/10/2023 8:50 pm : link
And make this a game
Defense held  
larryflower37 : 9/10/2023 8:50 pm : link
Now let the offense settle down and put up 7.
Thank you Wink  
D HOS : 9/10/2023 8:50 pm : link
Good call.
Big time play by Deonte Banks in the end zone  
mfsd : 9/10/2023 8:51 pm : link
needed that hold big time
Remember they are a pretty young group  
NY-Fan : 9/10/2023 8:51 pm : link
and this is the first game.
RE: And  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 8:51 pm : link
In comment 16197941 AcidTest said:
Quote:
now we burn another TO.

Gettleman did not want Toney at #20. Toney was a Judge pick. Gettleman apparently wanted Darrisaw. The question is whether he wanted the trade with Chicago, which made drafting Parsons impossible.


I get the feeling Gettleman made that trade since Chicago clearly offered more than a ham sandwich. He just wouldn't have drafted Toney.
Needed that stop...  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 8:51 pm : link
to stop the bleeding. Now get back to the running game...and continue to use Jones.
You just have to pound the ball  
cpgiants : 9/10/2023 8:51 pm : link
I thought the line looked good running the ball on the first drive and so did saquon
Let’s go Giants  
igotyourbackman : 9/10/2023 8:51 pm : link
Just need to settle in. Good stop now let’s score
RE: Great chip...  
christian : 9/10/2023 8:51 pm : link
In comment 16197948 bw in dc said:
Quote:
and rush by X.


Yeah X looks a lot more comfortable as the box and blitz safety.
If OL can give DJ more than one second  
gersh : 9/10/2023 8:51 pm : link
Maybe we’ll have a shot
RE: RE: RE: We’re not winning tonight  
OBJRoyal : 9/10/2023 8:51 pm : link
In comment 16197944 Optimus-NY said:
Quote:
In comment 16197916 OBJRoyal said:


Quote:


In comment 16197906 The_Boss said:


Quote:


Another year getting swept by Dallas…



Sometime the other team is better.

The Giants are on the right path



You're not wrong. I just hope the Giants don't go winless this regular season again against the Cowboys and Eagles. The only two games that I think they can win are this one and the last one of the season (the Eagles might not have anything to play for then).


I’m with you 💯

This game isn’t over as well!!!
Team definitely looked like they were on tilt  
Bramton1 : 9/10/2023 8:51 pm : link
after the FG block. Hopefully the defense holding at the goalline settles them down.
RE: Love Dabs but  
beatrixkiddo : 9/10/2023 8:51 pm : link
In comment 16197943 bluefin said:
Quote:
this team doesn’t look ready


Defense did ok. My biggest concern was the rookie Cns against the vet WRs. So far they have done well, Jackson got picked on the play to lamb.

Offense and ST has been shite though. They look like they are running drills in iractice
That pick play  
Pete in MD : 9/10/2023 8:52 pm : link
wasn't even close to legal. Sometimes they will just get in the way. That was straight up block.
RE: The annoying thing for me to this point is: We've seen this before.  
DisgruntledNYGfan : 9/10/2023 8:52 pm : link
In comment 16197937 81_Great_Dane said:
Quote:
Giants come out strong. Opening drive fizzles. Big mistake and they're trailing. Next drive, 3-and-out. Opponent drives down the field.

Doesn't that feel really familiar?

I'm not a "same old Giants" guy but I'd like to see a different script.


Yes. And generally in primetime against Cowboys or Eagles.
RE: That pick  
shyster : 9/10/2023 8:52 pm : link
In comment 16197933 wonderback said:
Quote:
Was legal ?


Could have been called. Wasn't.

Commanders were called today for marginal contact. That was a full block.
Not the start we were hoping for. Our oline doesn't look good.  
Ira : 9/10/2023 8:52 pm : link
§
We  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 8:52 pm : link
all knew the interior of our OL was a big question mark, especially when Ezeudu in his second year couldn't seize the starting job from Bredeson. Glowinski is an aging veteran, and Schmitz is a rookie. And as someone said, it looks like we're still having trouble picking up stunts. The "hallmarks" of this team are showing up again: bad OL and bad ST.
The difference between Thibs and Parsons is noticeable.  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 8:52 pm : link
Parsons is all-world. Thibs is just above average.
Dallas looks more ready  
Dave on the UWS : 9/10/2023 8:52 pm : link
to play. Their pass rush plan is brilliant so far. Our OL doesn’t know who to block. Excellent illegal pickmokay not called either.
Save for last play  
M.S. : 9/10/2023 8:52 pm : link

No pressure on Dak.

100% pressure on Jones
Doesn’t  
46and2Blue : 9/10/2023 8:52 pm : link
Appear much has changed a year later
It’s apparent to the most basic of fans  
Beezer : 9/10/2023 8:52 pm : link
that despite reciting 40 times for added Giants, the Cowboys play “at a different speed.”
Just run the ball  
Chocco : 9/10/2023 8:52 pm : link
.
Run the  
bluesince56 : 9/10/2023 8:52 pm : link
ball
 
christian : 9/10/2023 8:53 pm : link
Offense looks a million times better when it goes through Jones's legs.
It's amazing what little things...  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 8:53 pm : link
do in a game to stunt momentum.

AT false start makes it a long third down and then JSM struggles with wet ball.

Five minutes later - 9-0.
Some of you need to get a grip  
PetesHereNow : 9/10/2023 8:53 pm : link
Comparing this season to 2017 after 12 minutes of play, and 8 of those minutes were dominated by our offense.

A blocked FG and a pick play that wasn't called, that's their points.
RE: That pick play  
Greg from LI : 9/10/2023 8:53 pm : link
In comment 16197964 Pete in MD said:
Quote:
wasn't even close to legal. Sometimes they will just get in the way. That was straight up block.


Yep. Bullshit noncall
RE: That pick play  
RCPhoenix : 9/10/2023 8:53 pm : link
In comment 16197964 Pete in MD said:
Quote:
wasn't even close to legal. Sometimes they will just get in the way. That was straight up block.


That a terrible no call for sure
My goodness...  
dannysection 313 : 9/10/2023 8:53 pm : link
I think there are 3 plus periods left?

C'mon guys, have some faith here....

Ass whooping up front.  
rocco8112 : 9/10/2023 8:53 pm : link
.
offensive  
Mr. Nickels : 9/10/2023 8:53 pm : link
line is ... offensive
RE: RE: And  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 8:53 pm : link
In comment 16197955 FStubbs said:
Quote:
In comment 16197941 AcidTest said:


Quote:


now we burn another TO.

Gettleman did not want Toney at #20. Toney was a Judge pick. Gettleman apparently wanted Darrisaw. The question is whether he wanted the trade with Chicago, which made drafting Parsons impossible.



I get the feeling Gettleman made that trade since Chicago clearly offered more than a ham sandwich. He just wouldn't have drafted Toney.


I think so too. He also wanted another #1 since so many players who were granted an extra year because of COVID-19 would be coming out.
Not sure why Kaf  
thefan : 9/10/2023 8:53 pm : link
wouldn't go back to the run...
Both guards got blown up  
jeff57 : 9/10/2023 8:54 pm : link
.
RE: RE: Parsons  
Bramton1 : 9/10/2023 8:54 pm : link
In comment 16197921 Optimus-NY said:
Quote:
In comment 16197905 Ike#88 said:


Quote:


Gettleman did not want him but he wanted Toney.



I think it was Judge and O'Brien who wanted Toney, not Gettleman. Those two dummies won out over DG.


Revisionist history. A significant percentage of BBIers didn't want Parsons.
Put Ezeudu in.  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 8:54 pm : link
It's just an open gate up the middle. Change something.
I know he has pressure  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 8:54 pm : link
but they had better get the ball out fast tonight
Nope….  
thrunthrublue : 9/10/2023 8:54 pm : link
Just, nope.
Jesus Christ.  
Beezer : 9/10/2023 8:54 pm : link
.
Run  
Chocco : 9/10/2023 8:54 pm : link
The fucking ball..
This is insane  
Knickstape : 9/10/2023 8:54 pm : link
Absolutely ducking insane
Wow  
bubba0825 : 9/10/2023 8:54 pm : link
This is a disaster
If this continues all year  
JT039 : 9/10/2023 8:54 pm : link
Joe Schoen gets out in notice quickly. This is fucking absurd.
Ok, calm down  
SGMen : 9/10/2023 8:54 pm : link
Run and play smart.
Is the a professional oline?  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 8:54 pm : link
.
We walking up the escalator  
thefan : 9/10/2023 8:55 pm : link
in the wrong direction.
Run the ball  
Essex : 9/10/2023 8:55 pm : link
… passing is not an option tonight
Dude  
46and2Blue : 9/10/2023 8:55 pm : link
It’s early but booooo
Glowinski...  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 8:55 pm : link
is a moron.
The  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 8:55 pm : link
entire interior OL is just being run over and around at will by Dallas.
More pressure.  
Beezer : 9/10/2023 8:55 pm : link
No one open. Again.
Dude, fuck this  
islander1 : 9/10/2023 8:55 pm : link
I'm done.
Run  
Costy16 : 9/10/2023 8:55 pm : link
The GD ball.
Game over  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 8:55 pm : link
-
I don’t believe it  
jeff57 : 9/10/2023 8:55 pm : link
.
That's  
rocco8112 : 9/10/2023 8:55 pm : link
Probably it
okay  
thefan : 9/10/2023 8:55 pm : link
this is a disaster. Might have to turn off at the half and play some video games.
Oh Saquon  
NYerInMA : 9/10/2023 8:55 pm : link
not you too.
Fucking nightmare.  
bceagle05 : 9/10/2023 8:55 pm : link
.
Ok. NOW the game gets turned off.  
guitarguybs12 : 9/10/2023 8:55 pm : link
This is too much to kick off my NFL watching season.
Wow.  
Beezer : 9/10/2023 8:56 pm : link





Ouch  
bhill410 : 9/10/2023 8:56 pm : link
. Looks like I don’t have to worry about watching second half.
.  
Banks : 9/10/2023 8:56 pm : link
for fuck sake
I don’t like the way  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 8:56 pm : link
things are going this game.
Just die...  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 8:56 pm : link
WTF.
Par for the course  
bradshaw44 : 9/10/2023 8:56 pm : link
Embarrassed per usual.
Good job Barkley  
JT039 : 9/10/2023 8:56 pm : link
Ask for more millions.
Just pathetic  
rocco8112 : 9/10/2023 8:56 pm : link
Barkley brutal

Dallas dominating.
This shit is a joke  
Knickstape : 9/10/2023 8:56 pm : link
Unfucking real
What  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 8:56 pm : link
a belly drop this game already is. Wow.
Good night gang.  
Joe Beckwith : 9/10/2023 8:56 pm : link
.
Goodnight all!  
No1MDGiantsFan : 9/10/2023 8:56 pm : link
!
Glad we didn't sign him  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 8:56 pm : link
Long term
 
christian : 9/10/2023 8:56 pm : link
I absolutely abhor Barkley in the pass game.
"Holy shita holy Shit" Bluto  
gtt350 : 9/10/2023 8:56 pm : link
.
General Custer  
thrunthrublue : 9/10/2023 8:56 pm : link
Did better than this.
Unbelievable  
US1 Giants : 9/10/2023 8:56 pm : link
I've got to laugh at this team.
Is that two  
thefan : 9/10/2023 8:56 pm : link
turnovers in three drives?
Next time giants show up against the cowboys  
Knickstape : 9/10/2023 8:56 pm : link
Or the eagles will be the first in what feels like a fucking decade. Unfucking real man
Disastrous  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 8:56 pm : link
First game. Total opposite of last years opener.

Poor preparation and sloppy play up front on offense and specials.
Waller must be in bad shape  
ZogZerg : 9/10/2023 8:56 pm : link
not part of game plan
I’m at the game.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/10/2023 8:56 pm : link
This is a complete disaster.
These guys still can't beat Dallas and Philly  
Sean : 9/10/2023 8:56 pm : link
Haven't earned any respect.
I'm not really enjoying this much right now.  
sb2003 : 9/10/2023 8:57 pm : link
I guess we'll see if it's good or bad that it's still very early.
I definitely did not see this coming  
Chris684 : 9/10/2023 8:57 pm : link
Wow
Ok. Now  
Chocco : 9/10/2023 8:57 pm : link
RUN THE BALL
Soooo  
Br00klyn : 9/10/2023 8:57 pm : link
This team sucks
This feels...familiar  
j_rud : 9/10/2023 8:57 pm : link
.
Money well spent during the offseason  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 9/10/2023 8:57 pm : link
Money well spent
RE: Ok. NOW the game gets turned off.  
DisgruntledNYGfan : 9/10/2023 8:57 pm : link
In comment 16198013 guitarguybs12 said:
Quote:
This is too much to kick off my NFL watching season.


Agree. If the team doesn’t show up, I don’t have to, either.
Classic  
mittenedman : 9/10/2023 8:57 pm : link
Giants.

These guys had me fooled pretty good.
evan neal is not good enough  
amindan54 : 9/10/2023 8:57 pm : link
bredeson/glowinski are jags


RE: Not feeling too confident  
JT039 : 9/10/2023 8:57 pm : link
In comment 16197716 JT039 said:
Quote:
Until we can show we can beat these guys.


This will be repeated three more times this year. And probably right three more times.
Off season was a trainwreck clearly. Offense is scoring for wrong team  
MeanBunny : 9/10/2023 8:57 pm : link
Too many cute plays that people cannot execute. Daboll needs to get back to basics.
You could sort of see it in the preseason. Not enough game time for big players, defense was getting confused all the time.
This what happens  
bluesince56 : 9/10/2023 8:57 pm : link
when you don’t play your staters in the preseason. They are not good enough to sit down.
Why are we trying to run  
cpgiants : 9/10/2023 8:57 pm : link
The greatest show on Turf type offense in a driving rainstorm?
RE: I don’t like the way  
gtt350 : 9/10/2023 8:57 pm : link
In comment 16198017 SomeFan said:
Quote:
things are going this game.


finally a laugh
I waited 9 months and got totally pumped  
D HOS : 9/10/2023 8:57 pm : link
for this. this is horrible.
Giants embarrassing themselves  
jeff57 : 9/10/2023 8:57 pm : link
In a nationally TV night game. And against Dallas. Some things never change.
Fire  
Silver Spoon : 9/10/2023 8:57 pm : link
Everyone!
_____________  
I am Ninja : 9/10/2023 8:57 pm : link
Bet you we have a chance with 3 mins to go.
Well, on the plus side  
Jersey Heel : 9/10/2023 8:57 pm : link
Our defense is staying off the field.
Wow  
OBJRoyal : 9/10/2023 8:57 pm : link
Crazy start!!

Is everyone outside of NY right??
Hate to throw in the towel this early,  
Beezer : 9/10/2023 8:58 pm : link
… but the way Dallas has momentum and their defense has clear confidence to just fly around out there, it’s tough to see the Giants scoring 18 in this one.
ol  
Boss 63 : 9/10/2023 8:58 pm : link
How come teams build rebuild ol year in and out and Giants can not come close to ever having a professional ol😡😡😡😡
Did Dallas  
igotyourbackman : 9/10/2023 8:58 pm : link
Even bother to cover the deep route?
Wait all year  
Mark from Jersey : 9/10/2023 8:58 pm : link
For this?
Daboll said he wanted to  
Dave on the UWS : 9/10/2023 8:58 pm : link
see how this team deals with adversity. He’ll get a good dose now. So far they don’t look like they belong on the same field as Dallas.
A contender and a pretender.
They look  
46and2Blue : 9/10/2023 8:58 pm : link
Incompetent …Daboll doesn’t look like he has them ready
I can't be the only one who notices that when we're bad, we're putrid.  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 8:58 pm : link
Like we never seem to lose because we get outplayed. We lose because we're fucking awful and downright embarrassing.
RE: Waller must be in bad shape  
j_rud : 9/10/2023 8:58 pm : link
In comment 16198034 ZogZerg said:
Quote:
not part of game plan


How would you know? They cant block anyone. Jonathan Hankins looks like a pass rusher. I mean this is...Jesus christ what is this?
Silver lining  
NoPeanutz : 9/10/2023 8:58 pm : link
is that losing 21-20 isn't any better than losing 72-0.
Good night  
EJNNJ : 9/10/2023 8:58 pm : link
I can’t even…
The talent level is not at the point where we can legit compete  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 8:58 pm : link
With top teams. We can’t block Dallas. Anything think Philadelphia will be any different?

We play too many good teams this year.
RE: Disastrous  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 8:58 pm : link
In comment 16198033 Sammo85 said:
Quote:
First game. Total opposite of last years opener.

Poor preparation and sloppy play up front on offense and specials.


I hate to say it, but this is looking like Judge's second year. Guess those 6-11 predictions from PFF are looking good at the moment ...
This is a must score drive...  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 8:58 pm : link
already.
This team is trash  
CV36 : 9/10/2023 8:58 pm : link
Long season ahead
Glad this offense is faster  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 8:58 pm : link
.
RE: evan neal is not good enough  
LIbud : 9/10/2023 8:58 pm : link
In comment 16198045 amindan54 said:
Quote:
bredeson/glowinski are jags



You’re a reactionary idiot
My 34-20 Giants win prediction  
bceagle05 : 9/10/2023 8:58 pm : link
isn’t looking too good.
So we are back to  
bigblue18 : 9/10/2023 8:58 pm : link
being a joke
Schoen was right  
Paulie Walnuts : 9/10/2023 8:59 pm : link
Not to pay Barkley long term
Will the Giants  
dlauster : 9/10/2023 8:59 pm : link
Beat Dallas again in my lifetime?
I guess it’s a LOS game  
M.S. : 9/10/2023 8:59 pm : link

But it seems Giants didn’t get the memo.
RE: Did Dallas  
mfsd : 9/10/2023 8:59 pm : link
In comment 16198059 igotyourbackman said:
Quote:
Even bother to cover the deep route?


No need when our OL can’t even give Jones 3 seconds
OL  
Giants : 9/10/2023 8:59 pm : link
Looks the same horrible.
Dallas counts on us  
Ike#88 : 9/10/2023 8:59 pm : link
throwing short
Off goes the game  
Bramton1 : 9/10/2023 8:59 pm : link
Maybe I'll turn it on again later. But right now the o-line can't block and the receivers can't get open. And Daboll has abandoned the run for some stupid reason.
This is what happens  
WillVAB : 9/10/2023 8:59 pm : link
When you get dominated up front.
RE: RE: RE: Parsons  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 8:59 pm : link
In comment 16197988 Bramton1 said:
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In comment 16197921 Optimus-NY said:


Quote:


In comment 16197905 Ike#88 said:


Quote:


Gettleman did not want him but he wanted Toney.



I think it was Judge and O'Brien who wanted Toney, not Gettleman. Those two dummies won out over DG.



Revisionist history. A significant percentage of BBIers didn't want Parsons.


I disagree. I know I wanted him.
This team sucks dick in prime time games  
eric2425ny : 9/10/2023 8:59 pm : link
For years, it’s ridiculous.
Unprepared team  
NYPanos : 9/10/2023 8:59 pm : link
Is in coach. Let’s hope they bounce back. Ο-Line still not fixed.
Well, we certainly need 16-7  
SGMen : 9/10/2023 8:59 pm : link
I mean no way I thought we'd come out this bad and this soft.

My brother is a Dallas fan and I told him before the game I was deeply concerned with out interior OL and lo & behond they have not performed at all.
What are the odds ...  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 8:59 pm : link
to win a game when giving up a blocked FG for a TD and pick 6?
Run the ball Kafka.  
thefan : 9/10/2023 8:59 pm : link
do it.
Who didn't know a Giants fumble was coming  
jhibb : 9/10/2023 8:59 pm : link
After all that talk by the announcers before this drive.
Only surprise was that it wasn't Jones that fumbled, since they highlighted his improvement last year.

If I weren't a somewhat rational human being, I'd almost think the game is scripted...
Giants offense  
thrunthrublue : 9/10/2023 8:59 pm : link
Is breaking records!
Time for some quick  
Robert : 9/10/2023 8:59 pm : link
slants and crossing patterns.
...  
christian : 9/10/2023 9:00 pm : link
Can the Giants please go back to the offense from last year?
RE: This team is trash  
LIbud : 9/10/2023 9:00 pm : link
In comment 16198071 CV36 said:
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Long season ahead


Lifelong Giant fan for just a week?
It’s amazing  
gersh : 9/10/2023 9:00 pm : link
Even when you try to prepare for the worst, this happens
RE: Off goes the game  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 9:00 pm : link
In comment 16198082 Bramton1 said:
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Maybe I'll turn it on again later. But right now the o-line can't block and the receivers can't get open. And Daboll has abandoned the run for some stupid reason.


I don't know if the receivers are open or not. The offensive live can't block them at all.
So glad that I didn't  
cuty suzuki : 9/10/2023 9:00 pm : link
go to this game. Sit in the rain for this torture. I would have said any time you're ready (to go) to the guy I go with right now.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?  
Spider56 : 9/10/2023 9:00 pm : link
Relax. McCarthy is the ciach
I  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 9:00 pm : link
hope no one is going to blame this debacle on Jones. At this rate he'll be in the hospital by halftime. Even those early runs showed he was already running for his life.

Got to start thinking about changing the interior OL. The current combination of Bredeson, Schmitz, and Glowinski looks worse than than a high school team in pass protection.
.  
Banks : 9/10/2023 9:00 pm : link
the rain isn't helping, but oof what a start
OL sucks ass.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/10/2023 9:01 pm : link
Woof.
RE: What are the odds ...  
eric2425ny : 9/10/2023 9:01 pm : link
In comment 16198089 bw in dc said:
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to win a game when giving up a blocked FG for a TD and pick 6?


Not good. Like Lloyd Christmas ending up with Mary Swanson not good.
The offensive line  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:01 pm : link
got worse? Did the Dallas D-Line get better? What is this?
Jones is being hung out to dry  
islander1 : 9/10/2023 9:01 pm : link
.
That looked  
wonderback : 9/10/2023 9:01 pm : link
Awful!!!!
This fucking gameplan sucks  
guitarguybs12 : 9/10/2023 9:01 pm : link
You're trusting this OL to hold up on a designed QB Sweep?
WTF Kafka.
It is like the Cowboys  
rocco8112 : 9/10/2023 9:01 pm : link
front is in a higher league.
What is it with these playcalls?  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 9:01 pm : link
Jesus Christ.
Dallas hasn't scored an  
oghwga : 9/10/2023 9:01 pm : link
Offensive touchdown. We got this.
RE: I  
mfsd : 9/10/2023 9:01 pm : link
In comment 16198100 AcidTest said:
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hope no one is going to blame this debacle on Jones. At this rate he'll be in the hospital by halftime. Even those early runs showed he was already running for his life.

Got to start thinking about changing the interior OL. The current combination of Bredeson, Schmitz, and Glowinski looks worse than than a high school team in pass protection.


Nobody blaming Jones. He can’t block for himself
This reminds me of a John Maddenism  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 9:01 pm : link
Giants need to just get on the board here. Start from there. A FG will do a lot to get them going here. The problem is the interior of the NYG OL.
Same old prime time garbage performance.  
Crispino : 9/10/2023 9:02 pm : link
And same old shit offensive line.
Maybe we’re just  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 9:02 pm : link
going through some growing pains.
evan neal is a bust  
amindan54 : 9/10/2023 9:02 pm : link
hes a G


Another  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 9:02 pm : link
three and out.
Play calling sucks  
ZogZerg : 9/10/2023 9:02 pm : link
so far
Already forgot about  
NoPeanutz : 9/10/2023 9:02 pm : link
the botched snap on 3rd and goal.
Neal is a  
Silver Spoon : 9/10/2023 9:02 pm : link
disgrace.
PS  
Joe Beckwith : 9/10/2023 9:02 pm : link
Sean Harlow sold our playbook.
So much  
Ron Johnson : 9/10/2023 9:02 pm : link
For superior coaching
RE: What is it with these playcalls?  
KevinBBWC : 9/10/2023 9:02 pm : link
In comment 16198110 Anakim said:
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Jesus Christ.


Agree 100% that was a odd series.
Daboll has the Dallas defense  
tommcd66 : 9/10/2023 9:02 pm : link
On his fantasy team.
So this is what regression  
Reeses Pieces : 9/10/2023 9:02 pm : link
Looks like
Glowinski...  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 9:02 pm : link
couldn't block Christopher Reeve.
We should all be happy we’ve been conditioned to be embarrassed  
bradshaw44 : 9/10/2023 9:02 pm : link
Like this every year. I’m so sick of this. This OL looks worse than anything we’ve trotted out in decades. Just awful.
As with the last 10 years  
mfsd : 9/10/2023 9:02 pm : link
basic twists and stunts are too big a leap for the Giants to try and handle
RE: Same old prime time garbage performance.  
NoPeanutz : 9/10/2023 9:02 pm : link
In comment 16198114 Crispino said:
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And same old shit offensive line.

Just imagine if they were wearing alternate laundry.
Why the Fuck  
Costy16 : 9/10/2023 9:02 pm : link
Would you run a QB power for two yards to the perimeter of the line who cannot pass block????
RE: I  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 9:03 pm : link
In comment 16198100 AcidTest said:
Quote:
hope no one is going to blame this debacle on Jones. At this rate he'll be in the hospital by halftime. Even those early runs showed he was already running for his life.

Got to start thinking about changing the interior OL. The current combination of Bredeson, Schmitz, and Glowinski looks worse than than a high school team in pass protection.


This is really on coaches too, and especially Daboll. These guys look like they just met each other. OL need to develop cohesion, trust, and group-think. What have they been doing in practice and preseason?
I'm not sure I've ever seen an OL like this before. They are  
markky : 9/10/2023 9:03 pm : link
a total sieve.
Kafka…..  
thrunthrublue : 9/10/2023 9:03 pm : link
Please take a HC job, even if it’s next week.
Thats the defensive line  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:03 pm : link
investment at least.
Dallas is playing at light speed  
M.S. : 9/10/2023 9:03 pm : link

Giants at no speed
Collinsworth just said exactly what I did.  
Beezer : 9/10/2023 9:03 pm : link
For all the speed the Giants allegedly added, the Cowboys are just playing the game faster.
Evan Neal spending a lot of time turning around  
81_Great_Dane : 9/10/2023 9:03 pm : link
to look at the guy who just got by him.
I come back after 2 years  
EGB_SoCal : 9/10/2023 9:03 pm : link
Boycotting the NFL, to this shit? This looks like Eli’s final years. Brutal.
its 2am  
56GiantsUK : 9/10/2023 9:03 pm : link
And I got up for this...

I read all the we can beat Dallas posts...

All I am seeing is another philly style beating as we have lost the line on both sides of the ball..

Stack the box and come after Jones...

We have no answers...

I will read the shit show report when I get up later...

Oline is shockingly bad  
bubba0825 : 9/10/2023 9:03 pm : link
Didn’t see it coming into this year
RE: RE: RE: Parsons  
bwitz : 9/10/2023 9:03 pm : link
In comment 16197988 Bramton1 said:
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In comment 16197921 Optimus-NY said:


Quote:


In comment 16197905 Ike#88 said:


Quote:


Gettleman did not want him but he wanted Toney.



I think it was Judge and O'Brien who wanted Toney, not Gettleman. Those two dummies won out over DG.



Revisionist history. A significant percentage of BBIers didn't want Parsons.


Complete bullshit.
RE: It is like the Cowboys  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 9:03 pm : link
In comment 16198109 rocco8112 said:
Quote:
front is in a higher league.


They are though. They have an outstanding defensive squad and an excellent DC in D. Quinn with arguably the best defender in football right now.
Neal not looking good  
46and2Blue : 9/10/2023 9:03 pm : link
Thought he’d be better
RE: I'm not sure I've ever seen an OL like this before. They are  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:03 pm : link
In comment 16198132 markky said:
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a total sieve.


Couldn't have fathomed they would be absolutely owned like this. Looks like a JV squad out there.
Who picked Gillan for  
CT Charlie : 9/10/2023 9:03 pm : link
Star of the Game?
RE: Kafka…..  
cpgiants : 9/10/2023 9:04 pm : link
In comment 16198133 thrunthrublue said:
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Please take a HC job, even if it’s next week.


Right about now I would volunteer to drive Kafka to Northwestern
Evan Neal is a liability  
jvm52106 : 9/10/2023 9:04 pm : link
He blocked nobody that last play!!
RE: I'm not sure I've ever seen an OL like this before. They are  
Beezer : 9/10/2023 9:04 pm : link
In comment 16198132 markky said:
Quote:
a total sieve.


There’s no chance they’re worse than the line from 3-4 years back. No way.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/10/2023 9:04 pm : link
Just an embarrassing start. But so many said we'd win easily....
...  
christian : 9/10/2023 9:04 pm : link
Hey, I am just glad Daboll was cooking up that gamesmanship with the will he won't he Waller stuff.
RE: Collinsworth just said exactly what I did.  
81_Great_Dane : 9/10/2023 9:04 pm : link
In comment 16198136 Beezer said:
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For all the speed the Giants allegedly added, the Cowboys are just playing the game faster.
The young guys are gonna have to learn real fast to play at real game speed, or this is going to be a looooonnnngggg night — and a long season.
Looks to me like the Cowboys are copying the Eagles  
cosmicj : 9/10/2023 9:04 pm : link
Team building priorities. Keep acquiring great pass rushers. Their front 7 talent level and depth is very strong.
It’s not that the players  
JT039 : 9/10/2023 9:04 pm : link
Have been awful. But

Daboll has this team woefull unprepared
Kafka has had his lunch handed to him
And our OL still sucks major ass.

Not being competitive at home opening night is a major warning sign IMO.
RE: RE: I'm not sure I've ever seen an OL like this before. They are  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 9:04 pm : link
In comment 16198148 Beezer said:
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In comment 16198132 markky said:


Quote:


a total sieve.



There’s no chance they’re worse than the line from 3-4 years back. No way.


So far - they are.
Bobby Johnson and Thomas McGaughey  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 9:04 pm : link
Get ready to pack your shit
PHI was up 16-0 today  
bluefin : 9/10/2023 9:04 pm : link
and yeah they won…but it was close
well Spring training  
Boss 63 : 9/10/2023 9:05 pm : link
starts 2/22/2024
RE: Evan Neal is a liability  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 9:05 pm : link
In comment 16198147 jvm52106 said:
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He blocked nobody that last play!!


I was assured he would be as good as AT this season.
I 'm not a fan of Kafka.  
prdave73 : 9/10/2023 9:05 pm : link
Imo, I don't think he is the right offensive coordinator for this team.
I think the Dline...  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 9:05 pm : link
is getting settled. Dallas OL looks a little leaky to me...
....  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/10/2023 9:05 pm : link
This is pathetic.
Why do I invest so much emotional weight in this shit  
djm : 9/10/2023 9:05 pm : link
I need to find a new fucking passion.
RE: RE: I'm not sure I've ever seen an OL like this before. They are  
mittenedman : 9/10/2023 9:05 pm : link
In comment 16198148 Beezer said:
Quote:
In comment 16198132 markky said:


Quote:


a total sieve.



There’s no chance they’re worse than the line from 3-4 years back. No way.


No chance? They haven’t even slowed DAL down. It almost looks like they’re just letting them through.
RE: Who picked Gillan for  
cosmicj : 9/10/2023 9:05 pm : link
In comment 16198145 CT Charlie said:
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Star of the Game?


Both punts have been great.
Defense needs to set some emotion  
jvm52106 : 9/10/2023 9:05 pm : link
Here.. We are flat after first drive failed! Get after the Boys.
RE: I'm not sure I've ever seen an OL like this before. They are  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 9:05 pm : link
In comment 16198132 markky said:
Quote:
a total sieve.


This has been a constant going back 10-11 years and five coaching staffs. Even in the 2nd SB run, Giants OL was holding up on back of Eli and passing weapons.
The speed is  
46and2Blue : 9/10/2023 9:05 pm : link
Worthless if you can protect the qb and three quarters of the line is still terrible
Its 2.00 AM in the UK  
3rd and a cab ride : 9/10/2023 9:05 pm : link
So glad I stayed up to watch this - lets see if the D can come out of this with soe pride..
Could we not open up against Dallas anymore  
larryflower37 : 9/10/2023 9:05 pm : link
Fuck the NFL schedule makers
Dallas is playing  
Dave on the UWS : 9/10/2023 9:05 pm : link
with emotion and attacking. NY still looks like they are pre season speed. That’s why this looks so bad.
RE: Why do I invest so much emotional weight in this shit  
HewlettGiant : 9/10/2023 9:05 pm : link
In comment 16198162 djm said:
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I need to find a new fucking passion.


+1
This is the most deflating  
Breeze_94 : 9/10/2023 9:05 pm : link
Start to a season I can remember. Everything that can go wrong, has gone wrong. Bad snaps, blocked kicks, pick 6 on a tipped ball, Thomas limping, and Oline is getting manhandled.

Giants NEED a stop and a score. Otherwise this game will be over by halftime.
RE: Evan Neal spending a lot of time turning around  
M.S. : 9/10/2023 9:06 pm : link
In comment 16198137 81_Great_Dane said:
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to look at the guy who just got by him.

All night long
Evan neal  
BleedBlue : 9/10/2023 9:06 pm : link
He is total dogshit
It’s time  
George : 9/10/2023 9:06 pm : link
To commit to the running game.
All off-season were heard  
GiantsRage2007 : 9/10/2023 9:06 pm : link
We needed better line play to compete with Dallas & Philly.

We made nice additions to the DL

The OL sheesh…

Philly DL will destroy us

Again
We have speed...  
Robert : 9/10/2023 9:06 pm : link
hit them quick, see how they adjust.
RE: RE: Kafka…..  
DaveInTampa : 9/10/2023 9:06 pm : link
In comment 16198146 cpgiants said:
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In comment 16198133 thrunthrublue said:


Quote:


Please take a HC job, even if it’s next week.



Right about now I would volunteer to drive Kafka to Northwestern


Not sure how you can blame Kafka. If your OL can't block, not much you can do
Great night for Cowboy fans!  
x meadowlander : 9/10/2023 9:06 pm : link
Giants look like an HS team since the FG block.
RE: RE: RE: I'm not sure I've ever seen an OL like this before. They are  
markky : 9/10/2023 9:06 pm : link
In comment 16198163 mittenedman said:
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In comment 16198148 Beezer said:


Quote:


In comment 16198132 markky said:


Quote:


a total sieve.



There’s no chance they’re worse than the line from 3-4 years back. No way.



No chance? They haven’t even slowed DAL down. It almost looks like they’re just letting them through.


so far, I'd have to say they are worse.
High on the smell  
Blueworm : 9/10/2023 9:06 pm : link
of our own farts.


OL still sucks.
RE: ...  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 9:06 pm : link
In comment 16198150 christian said:
Quote:
Hey, I am just glad Daboll was cooking up that gamesmanship with the will he won't he Waller stuff.


LOFL. Yes, it was suggested for a day or two that Daboll was really getting inside Dallas' head...
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/10/2023 9:06 pm : link
The arrogance of so many on BBI about this game...

This is embarrassing.
This sucks so bad  
chuckydee9 : 9/10/2023 9:06 pm : link
We aren't talented enough, coached well enough to compete against the best..
RE: Could we not open up against Dallas anymore  
mfsd : 9/10/2023 9:07 pm : link
In comment 16198169 larryflower37 said:
Quote:
Fuck the NFL schedule makers


NFL getting exactly what the want, a big Cowboys circle jerk with a big market of Giants fans getting sucked in for the ride
When it rains, it pours  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 9:07 pm : link
.
Was that PI  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 9:07 pm : link
?
Looks like  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/10/2023 9:07 pm : link
Reese's destruction of the OL so far has continued after DG's failed attempt and a big TBD from Schoen. In the NFCE having your QB produce 80 percent of your offense does not play well like Buffalo.

Defense I think will be okay but the OL....
Nbc….  
thrunthrublue : 9/10/2023 9:07 pm : link
Please no shots of Jerry J high giving in his press box.
RE: Looks to me like the Cowboys are copying the Eagles  
djm : 9/10/2023 9:07 pm : link
In comment 16198152 cosmicj said:
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Team building priorities. Keep acquiring great pass rushers. Their front 7 talent level and depth is very strong.


Giants lost this shit when they let parsons go to Dallas. He fucking loves killing NYG. We can never block him. Never. Fucking gross.
Terrible flag  
bubba0825 : 9/10/2023 9:07 pm : link
.
Ain't our night  
rocco8112 : 9/10/2023 9:07 pm : link
Fellas

Maybe one drive  
Turf Toe : 9/10/2023 9:07 pm : link
By the starting O in preseason isn’t enough
.  
Banks : 9/10/2023 9:07 pm : link
oh come on
Terrible  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 9:07 pm : link
I have a real fear this is going to be a long season of offensive struggle and growing pains for the young players.
RE: Was that PI  
cpgiants : 9/10/2023 9:07 pm : link
In comment 16198188 SomeFan said:
Quote:
?


He wouldn't have been if our pass rush could have gotten home for once
That  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 9:07 pm : link
was PI. Hawkins put his arm across Cooks' chest.
Another gift  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 9:07 pm : link
.
RE: Could we not open up against Dallas anymore  
bwitz : 9/10/2023 9:07 pm : link
In comment 16198169 larryflower37 said:
Quote:
Fuck the NFL schedule makers


This.

Why in the fuck do these two teams consistently open against each other? It’s fucking asinine.
Now a PI penalty  
JT039 : 9/10/2023 9:07 pm : link
Lol.

Even though that wasn’t close to PI
McKinney with two positive plays  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:08 pm : link
so thats good...

We're fucked ahaha.
the talent gap has not been closed  
amindan54 : 9/10/2023 9:08 pm : link
not even close

rookies jags they have stars
Bullshit  
mittenedman : 9/10/2023 9:08 pm : link
Call!
He was olaying  
TommyWiseau : 9/10/2023 9:08 pm : link
The f’ing ball!
They weren’t set  
Jersey Heel : 9/10/2023 9:08 pm : link
When the ball was snapped
DJ is going to get hurt...  
bluewave : 9/10/2023 9:08 pm : link
if they don't protect better than they have. I can't believe how fast they're getting into the backfield! It's freaking ridiculous!
What an absolute horseshit call  
Greg from LI : 9/10/2023 9:08 pm : link
.
Why is Nacho celebrating?  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 9:08 pm : link
.
That’s not PI  
Costy16 : 9/10/2023 9:08 pm : link
Fuck Adrian Hill
Dallas prob can't run on us...  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:08 pm : link
and they don't need to. They could probably punt from here on out and win.
Nice stop by Simmons  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 9:08 pm : link
.
I’m not going to blame the refs for this game  
illmatic : 9/10/2023 9:09 pm : link
but not calling that pick play earlier and calling that PI are two massive calls.
RE: That’s not PI  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:09 pm : link
In comment 16198210 Costy16 said:
Quote:
Fuck Adrian Hill


Bro, its a PI. He didn't even need to do it. Dude is nervous. He never played in front of a crowd half this size.
.  
Banks : 9/10/2023 9:09 pm : link
worst part is that throw was awful. He didn't need to do anything
 
christian : 9/10/2023 9:09 pm : link
Two good stops by Simmons.
If I'm Dallas...  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 9:09 pm : link
I'm running, punting, and playing D.
What is Hawkins celebrating?  
BestFeature : 9/10/2023 9:09 pm : link
.
That honestly coldn't have been easier  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 9:09 pm : link
And someone tell Tre Hawkins that he got the fucking first down
RE: What an absolute horseshit call  
KDavies : 9/10/2023 9:09 pm : link
In comment 16198208 Greg from LI said:
Quote:
.


Um, that was clear PI
4th and 3...  
islander1 : 9/10/2023 9:09 pm : link
Dak has plenty of time.
It looked like  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 9:09 pm : link
we lined up in the neutral zone
Tre Hawkins  
NoPeanutz : 9/10/2023 9:09 pm : link
you are not him
....  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/10/2023 9:10 pm : link
This is embarrassing. So sick of listening to this shit that we've closed the gap talent wise between Dallas & Philadelphia. We're not near them.
RE: RE: Could we not open up against Dallas anymore  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 9:10 pm : link
In comment 16198200 bwitz said:
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In comment 16198169 larryflower37 said:


Quote:


Fuck the NFL schedule makers



This.

Why in the fuck do these two teams consistently open against each other? It’s fucking asinine.


So Dallas can start 1-0 and get the hype machine started. That's also why it's on national TV.
Wide  
mittenedman : 9/10/2023 9:10 pm : link
Fucking open
RE: ....  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 9:10 pm : link
In comment 16198224 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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This is embarrassing. So sick of listening to this shit that we've closed the gap talent wise between Dallas & Philadelphia. We're not near them.


We look further away than ever. For once we're actually healthy.
KT with  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:10 pm : link
some shit gap discipline. Missed out on a TFL.
The difference is Barkley gets hit on a play  
Chris684 : 9/10/2023 9:10 pm : link
and coughs it up.

This kid in Dallas gets smacked across the middle and holds on for a huge 3rd down conversion.
RE: RE: What an absolute horseshit call  
Pete in MD : 9/10/2023 9:10 pm : link
In comment 16198220 KDavies said:
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Um, that was clear PI

Are you crazy?
@ this rate...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/10/2023 9:11 pm : link
We'd be underdogs vs. 'Zona next week.
We all bought into the hype  
bradshaw44 : 9/10/2023 9:11 pm : link
This is Joe Judge part two. Yea yea I’m reactionary. But this is embarrassing on epic level. It always has to be embarrassing. Always.
RE: The difference is Barkley gets hit on a play  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 9:11 pm : link
In comment 16198229 Chris684 said:
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and coughs it up.

This kid in Dallas gets smacked across the middle and holds on for a huge 3rd down conversion.


This
Giants D  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:12 pm : link
gets bailed out by a drop.
RE: @ this rate...  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 9:12 pm : link
In comment 16198231 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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We'd be underdogs vs. 'Zona next week.


The way we look right now? We should be huge underdogs.
Best play we made all day was a drop by the Cowboys  
BestFeature : 9/10/2023 9:12 pm : link
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RE: We all bought into the hype  
HewlettGiant : 9/10/2023 9:12 pm : link
In comment 16198232 bradshaw44 said:
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This is Joe Judge part two. Yea yea I’m reactionary. But this is embarrassing on epic level. It always has to be embarrassing. Always.


Macadoo part 2
Better to be lucky  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 9:12 pm : link
there
RE: Best play we made all day was a drop by the Cowboys  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 9:12 pm : link
In comment 16198236 BestFeature said:
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Yup.
Really no  
46and2Blue : 9/10/2023 9:12 pm : link
Pass rush either
Simmons  
bubba0825 : 9/10/2023 9:12 pm : link
Had his back to the play for no reason
.  
Banks : 9/10/2023 9:12 pm : link
we got lucky. that should have been a first
Hopefully that’s a turning point.  
bceagle05 : 9/10/2023 9:12 pm : link
Might want to score some points here.
Dallas should go for it  
bradshaw44 : 9/10/2023 9:12 pm : link
Why the fuck not. We suck.
Thibs barely gets touched.  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 9:12 pm : link
Falls over
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/10/2023 9:12 pm : link
This is fucking embarrassing. At home. Week 1. Vs. a divisional rival.
......  
Route 9 : 9/10/2023 9:13 pm : link
Softies
Man, big drop...  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 9:13 pm : link
...
.  
ChrisRick : 9/10/2023 9:13 pm : link
Might want to watch the Barkley play again. Diggs put his helmet right on the ball. The cooks hit was not even close to the same
I hope our offense  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 9:13 pm : link
can hold them
Total Domination By Cowboy Defense  
Jeffrey : 9/10/2023 9:13 pm : link
Cannot tell which OL is playing well or even decent. What an embarrassment as the Giants are being outclassed completely.
RE: We all bought into the hype  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:13 pm : link
In comment 16198232 bradshaw44 said:
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This is Joe Judge part two. Yea yea I’m reactionary. But this is embarrassing on epic level. It always has to be embarrassing. Always.


LOL. Well never have a coach as bad as Joe Judge again. If we do, I'll probably call it as a fan.
...  
christian : 9/10/2023 9:13 pm : link
Thibs and Ojulari playing with their hands in the dirt on almost every play.
Alright....  
Robert : 9/10/2023 9:13 pm : link
let's get in this thing and hit quick
Anyone think we’re scoring 20 points tonight?  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 9:13 pm : link
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RE: Really no  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 9:13 pm : link
In comment 16198240 46and2Blue said:
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Pass rush either


Interesting how Dallas can find UDFAs and draft picks and keep a functioning offensive line and we have top picks and can't.
Making McCarthy  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 9:13 pm : link
Look like 2nd coming of Tom Landry tonight.
If someone had told me the cowboys would take  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 9:13 pm : link
A 19-0 lead I never would've believed it.
Fun fact of the evening  
guitarguybs12 : 9/10/2023 9:14 pm : link
Giants haven't come back to win with a 19 point deficit since 1970
Simmons  
igotyourbackman : 9/10/2023 9:14 pm : link
Seemed to be in in some plays
New year, same old Giants.  
BigBlueBuff : 9/10/2023 9:14 pm : link
How many coaches/GMs are we going to cycle through before we get one that can actually build a team to match Philly or Dallas? I know that we need to show some patience with this current group, but I would hope that in year 2 it wouldn't look as bad or worse than in the first year... again.
If Lemieux was active  
bluefin : 9/10/2023 9:14 pm : link
I’d put in bredeson at C and Shane at LG
Has the offense...  
56GiantsUK : 9/10/2023 9:14 pm : link
covered all the ways of giving Dallas another six points ?




....  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/10/2023 9:14 pm : link
Total no show. Just embarrassing on so many levels.
RE: .  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 9:14 pm : link
In comment 16198249 ChrisRick said:
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Might want to watch the Barkley play again. Diggs put his helmet right on the ball. The cooks hit was not even close to the same


Agreed. I think it was just a better play by the defense...
By the time the dallas D is winded  
thrunthrublue : 9/10/2023 9:14 pm : link
It’ll be 32-0.
RE: RE: RE: Could we not open up against Dallas anymore  
Essex : 9/10/2023 9:14 pm : link
In comment 16198225 FStubbs said:
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In comment 16198169 larryflower37 said:


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Fuck the NFL schedule makers



This.

Why in the fuck do these two teams consistently open against each other? It’s fucking asinine.



So Dallas can start 1-0 and get the hype machine started. That's also why it's on national TV.

Yes, I am sure it’s to plug the Dallas hype machine instead of like maybe we can good ratings from tv’s biggest market playing the most popular team in America.
RE: .  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 9:14 pm : link
In comment 16198249 ChrisRick said:
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Might want to watch the Barkley play again. Diggs put his helmet right on the ball. The cooks hit was not even close to the same


True. I also didn't hear how cooks was the best player in football and deserves a monster contract all off season
I would say this has been the worst 20 minutes in our history  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 9:14 pm : link
But I can think of a few worse. That's how sad this franchise is. Like I said, we never just get "outplayed". When we lose, we fucking embarrass ourselves.
Can I get a motherfucking TD  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:14 pm : link
driver here. You know what Dallas is doing on defense Kaf, counter it bitch.
Prescott has all day to pass  
yalebowl : 9/10/2023 9:14 pm : link
Jones not so much
RE: We all bought into the hype  
M.S. : 9/10/2023 9:14 pm : link
In comment 16198232 bradshaw44 said:
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This is Joe Judge part two. Yea yea I’m reactionary. But this is embarrassing on epic level. It always has to be embarrassing. Always.

It’s just one game. And It’s not over yet. And even if it is, Daboll has to rally his troops to get ready for Game 2.
RE: Fun fact of the evening  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 9:15 pm : link
In comment 16198259 guitarguybs12 said:
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Giants haven't come back to win with a 19 point deficit since 1970


So you’re saying I should go to sleep early?
I was not expecting this at  
jvm52106 : 9/10/2023 9:15 pm : link
All but after watching many games today you can see a lot of teams were just flat, out of sync and not ready. It sucks that we lay down in front of Dallas and Philadelphia year after year.
Thibs will make a few plays  
Ike#88 : 9/10/2023 9:15 pm : link
this year but he is not physical. He gets trashed regularly when rushing and struggles to hold the edge unfortunately.
The NY Giants are full of Kadarius Toney moments  
MeanBunny : 9/10/2023 9:15 pm : link
The highlight reel is going to look like Kadarius Toney over and over again. What if your entire team was as clutch as Kadarius Toney
We did look very bad in the first half against tenn  
Essex : 9/10/2023 9:15 pm : link
In the opener last season.
RE: Total Domination By Cowboy Defense  
wonderback : 9/10/2023 9:15 pm : link
In comment 16198251 Jeffrey said:
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Cannot tell which OL is playing well or even decent. What an embarrassment as the Giants are being outclassed completely.


Me too! Looks like they all suck. I better be wrong.
RE: If someone had told me the cowboys would take  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 9:15 pm : link
In comment 16198258 Blue21 said:
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A 19-0 lead I never would've believed it.
you’re telling me there’s a chance!
RE: RE: RE: What an absolute horseshit call  
KDavies : 9/10/2023 9:15 pm : link
In comment 16198230 Pete in MD said:
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Um, that was clear PI


Are you crazy?


Not as crazy as those trying to blame this abomination on the refs
Say it with me,  
Gmen703 : 9/10/2023 9:15 pm : link
We just need one play to turn the momentum of this game.
Everyone, just calm down.  
cosmicj : 9/10/2023 9:15 pm : link
The Giants are talented and on the rise.

There were two unfortunate mistakes leading to the Dallas TDs.

Take a deep breath and stay strong,
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/10/2023 9:15 pm : link
I'm so fucking disgusted right now. This is pathetic. We're not even competing.
RE: Making McCarthy  
djm : 9/10/2023 9:15 pm : link
In comment 16198257 Sammo85 said:
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Look like 2nd coming of Tom Landry tonight.


People here keep telling me how bad a coach this guy is. All he’s done is win.
Nearly ever offseason  
46and2Blue : 9/10/2023 9:15 pm : link
Addition looks like a waste of cap money …I know it’s one game but they are being embarrassed
RE: RE: .  
ChrisRick : 9/10/2023 9:15 pm : link
In comment 16198269 Thunderstruck27 said:
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Might want to watch the Barkley play again. Diggs put his helmet right on the ball. The cooks hit was not even close to the same



True. I also didn't hear how cooks was the best player in football and deserves a monster contract all off season


That is quite irrelevant considering the play
In retrospect...  
Milton : 9/10/2023 9:16 pm : link
I probably shouldn't've bet on the Giants going 6-0 in the division. I did get good odds.
The  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 9:16 pm : link
Cowboys are dominating on both sides of the ball and of course ST as well. Their lines are destroying ours. This is embarrassing. We can't pass block and aren't generating any pass rush against Dak, who is essentially immobile.
RE: RE: We all bought into the hype  
bradshaw44 : 9/10/2023 9:16 pm : link
In comment 16198274 M.S. said:
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In comment 16198232 bradshaw44 said:


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This is Joe Judge part two. Yea yea I’m reactionary. But this is embarrassing on epic level. It always has to be embarrassing. Always.


It’s just one game. And It’s not over yet. And even if it is, Daboll has to rally his troops to get ready for Game 2.


Yea but it always has to be on national tv. And always has to be Dallas. I hope more than anything that you guys can put me on blast as a crow eating bitch. I pray for it. We are such a joke.
RE: Everyone, just calm down.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/10/2023 9:16 pm : link
In comment 16198285 cosmicj said:
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The Giants are talented and on the rise.

There were two unfortunate mistakes leading to the Dallas TDs.

Take a deep breath and stay strong,


Are we watching the same game?
it is all most people need to see  
HewlettGiant : 9/10/2023 9:16 pm : link
We want to see improvement.......we see true regression....back to laughingstocks of the NFL
RE: RE: .  
christian : 9/10/2023 9:16 pm : link
In comment 16198266 bw in dc said:
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In comment 16198249 ChrisRick said:


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Might want to watch the Barkley play again. Diggs put his helmet right on the ball. The cooks hit was not even close to the same



Agreed. I think it was just a better play by the defense...


It was a great defense play. Barkley is also terribly slow getting around in the pass game.
Good lord why am I watching this garbage  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/10/2023 9:16 pm : link
…total masochist I guess
RE: RE: RE: .  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 9:16 pm : link
In comment 16198289 ChrisRick said:
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In comment 16198269 Thunderstruck27 said:


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In comment 16198249 ChrisRick said:


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Might want to watch the Barkley play again. Diggs put his helmet right on the ball. The cooks hit was not even close to the same



True. I also didn't hear how cooks was the best player in football and deserves a monster contract all off season



That is quite irrelevant considering the play


Ah so every player would have fumble that
This is honestly pathetic  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 9:16 pm : link
Like legitimately pathetic. We're not even trying.
There’s  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 9:16 pm : link
your dipshit QB right there.

Give me Drake Maye in the draft.
Lmfao  
islander1 : 9/10/2023 9:16 pm : link
Thanks Jones.
Oh  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 9:17 pm : link
boy
This is a remote thrower  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:17 pm : link
Fucking Daniel Jones. Throwing into a 3 on 1?
,  
Banks : 9/10/2023 9:17 pm : link
are you kidding me
Neal sucks  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 9:17 pm : link
Jones blows. Throw it away. Jesus Christ
Man  
santacruzom : 9/10/2023 9:17 pm : link
Finally just caught up... I'm not enjoying this reality check at all.
This sucks  
rocco8112 : 9/10/2023 9:17 pm : link
At least give us an entertaining game.

This is a big step back  
j_rud : 9/10/2023 9:17 pm : link
Really disappointing
HAHAHA.  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 9:17 pm : link
We hold on a play that Jones throws a pick. But again Jones is moved off his spot immediately. He's just desperate to make something happen as the QB.
RE: RE: RE: RE: .  
ChrisRick : 9/10/2023 9:17 pm : link
In comment 16198297 Thunderstruck27 said:
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In comment 16198269 Thunderstruck27 said:


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Might want to watch the Barkley play again. Diggs put his helmet right on the ball. The cooks hit was not even close to the same



True. I also didn't hear how cooks was the best player in football and deserves a monster contract all off season



That is quite irrelevant considering the play



Ah so every player would have fumble that



More than likely
Haha  
BigBlueBuff : 9/10/2023 9:17 pm : link
This is a team on the rise? Could have fooled me.
What the fuck was that silent  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:17 pm : link
dopey doofus looking at?
Holy shit  
Greg from LI : 9/10/2023 9:17 pm : link
You could not script a worse start
That was absolutely horrible  
rocco8112 : 9/10/2023 9:17 pm : link
by Jones.
The Giants  
Kanavis : 9/10/2023 9:17 pm : link
Are playing worse than any team in the league so far and it isn't even close
Throw it away  
Mark from Jersey : 9/10/2023 9:17 pm : link
For fucks same what a joke.
Franchise QBs making 40m plus  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 9:17 pm : link
Don’t commit stupid shit like that.
There's the Daniel Jones we all know so well  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 9/10/2023 9:17 pm : link
...
Well, the wheels are really coming off.  
81_Great_Dane : 9/10/2023 9:18 pm : link
Guessing Daboll's going to have some choice words at halftime.
No mas  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 9:18 pm : link
Throw in the towel
Desperate throw  
M.S. : 9/10/2023 9:18 pm : link

By Daniel
What a disaster  
bubba0825 : 9/10/2023 9:18 pm : link
Holy shit what a no show
This is a downright early collapse.  
Modzelewski : 9/10/2023 9:18 pm : link
They’re pushing for plays that aren’t there, it’s just ugly.
Meanwhile, Dak drops back - 4 seconds to throw  
islander1 : 9/10/2023 9:18 pm : link
No problem.
RE: Everyone, just calm down.  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 9:18 pm : link
In comment 16198285 cosmicj said:
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The Giants are talented and on the rise.

There were two unfortunate mistakes leading to the Dallas TDs.

Take a deep breath and stay strong,


This is one of the worst Giants losses I've ever seen so far. On the rise?
Incomplete tgat hit the ground  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 9:18 pm : link
.
We actually had jokers on this board (you know who you are)  
dpinzow : 9/10/2023 9:18 pm : link
who said the NFC was "wide open" for the Giants
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/10/2023 9:18 pm : link
Embarrasing.
Can it get any worse?  
tommcd66 : 9/10/2023 9:18 pm : link
Yes, yes it can.
No pass rush, terrible coverage  
Greg from LI : 9/10/2023 9:18 pm : link
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And I wonder why the national media doesn't respect the Giants  
Sean : 9/10/2023 9:18 pm : link
This is what everyone sees vs Dallas and Philly. I thought the gap was closed a bit, it wasn't.
This looks worse than  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:18 pm : link
our divisional blowout against Philly.
RE: The Giants  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 9:18 pm : link
In comment 16198314 Kanavis said:
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Are playing worse than any team in the league so far and it isn't even close


Cincinnati was pretty bad today too ... but this is bad.
How long before the defense  
BigBlueBuff : 9/10/2023 9:19 pm : link
surrenders completely?
Good night  
Jersey Heel : 9/10/2023 9:19 pm : link
Game over. Going to bed.
i would like to revise my prediction  
markky : 9/10/2023 9:19 pm : link
for number of wins this year
Ben McAdoo,  
Silver Spoon : 9/10/2023 9:19 pm : link
Pat Shurmur, Joe Judge….Brian Daboll. This franchise is a complete joke.
RE: And I wonder why the national media doesn't respect the Giants  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 9:19 pm : link
In comment 16198331 Sean said:
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This is what everyone sees vs Dallas and Philly. I thought the gap was closed a bit, it wasn't.


The gap looks worse tonight. We could at least give Dallas a game before.
I have a feeling that we're never going to dominate the Cowboys  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 9:19 pm : link
or Eagles like they have to us. We may sneak in a win here and there, but we're never going to dominate them. It's not in our DNA.
That was bad  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 9:19 pm : link
Total breakdown. Dallas can put the Giants away here with a TD. Odd to type, but that's what it feels like at this point.
Dak brutal  
rocco8112 : 9/10/2023 9:19 pm : link
. Ha
last two times giants steps on teh fields  
amindan54 : 9/10/2023 9:19 pm : link
eagles then cowboys


absolutely dominated....
RE: RE: Everyone, just calm down.  
islander1 : 9/10/2023 9:19 pm : link
In comment 16198325 FStubbs said:
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In comment 16198285 cosmicj said:


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The Giants are talented and on the rise.

There were two unfortunate mistakes leading to the Dallas TDs.

Take a deep breath and stay strong,



This is one of the worst Giants losses I've ever seen so far. On the rise?


This looks like a 4 win team if the line is really this bad.

It's probably not, but...
ol holds  
Boss 63 : 9/10/2023 9:19 pm : link
and still jones running for his life
I haven’t given up on a game before halftime  
mfsd : 9/10/2023 9:19 pm : link
in a long time, but I might just do so here
all day to throw...wide open receivers...  
56GiantsUK : 9/10/2023 9:19 pm : link
Everything we aren't...

Wow  
rocco8112 : 9/10/2023 9:20 pm : link
Oh my

1st down

Weapons are better  
OBJRoyal : 9/10/2023 9:20 pm : link
Online should be better

QB?
I like Daboll  
terptacular : 9/10/2023 9:20 pm : link
But our offensive game plan is awful
RE: And I wonder why the national media doesn't respect the Giants  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 9:20 pm : link
In comment 16198331 Sean said:
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This is what everyone sees vs Dallas and Philly. I thought the gap was closed a bit, it wasn't.


I hate to say it, but PFF's 6-11 prediction looks on the nose. If optimistic.
.  
Banks : 9/10/2023 9:20 pm : link
gonna be down 4 scores at half. I expected a loss. I expected a double digit one, but damn not anything like this.
Adoree Jackson  
JT039 : 9/10/2023 9:20 pm : link
Has been cooked all night.
Can’t believe I got myself excited for this game  
Knickstape : 9/10/2023 9:20 pm : link
Shoulda made the giants prove they were worth being excited for going against a division rival
RE: Everyone, just calm down.  
bwitz : 9/10/2023 9:20 pm : link
In comment 16198285 cosmicj said:
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The Giants are talented and on the rise.

There were two unfortunate mistakes leading to the Dallas TDs.

Take a deep breath and stay strong,


Go take another long rip from your weed to pen.
Collinsworth is a fucking moron  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:20 pm : link
"the NFL is about scoring points" so college isn't?
And jones  
thrunthrublue : 9/10/2023 9:20 pm : link
Got that big contract?
I'd  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 9:20 pm : link
rather watch the "Walking Dead." Oh wait, I am.
RE: I haven’t given up on a game before halftime  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 9:21 pm : link
In comment 16198345 mfsd said:
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in a long time, but I might just do so here


I don't blame you at this point. If Dallas scores a TD here and their D continues to flummox the Giants' OL, then it's good night Gracie.
RE: And jones  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 9:21 pm : link
In comment 16198356 thrunthrublue said:
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Got that big contract?


It’s a 2 yr commitment.
RE: I'd  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:21 pm : link
In comment 16198357 AcidTest said:
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rather watch the "Walking Dead." Oh wait, I am.


Zing! Good reminder though, probably switch to that at half time.
They are getting humiliated out there  
Metnut : 9/10/2023 9:21 pm : link
Woof
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/10/2023 9:21 pm : link
This is embarrassing. On so many levels.
We still don’t belong  
bceagle05 : 9/10/2023 9:21 pm : link
on the same field as Dallas and Philly. Who knows when or if we will.
Caleb Williams will look good in blue  
Knickstape : 9/10/2023 9:21 pm : link
Lol
RE: And jones  
LittleBlue : 9/10/2023 9:21 pm : link
In comment 16198356 thrunthrublue said:
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Got that big contract?


A good IQ test for giants fans tonights will be if they blame Jones
Dex has been quiet, hasn't he?  
81_Great_Dane : 9/10/2023 9:21 pm : link
Hmm.
One of the worst  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 9:21 pm : link
Openers I’ve ever watched.
Dis  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 9:21 pm : link
aster
Maybe we just really want Caleb Williams or Marvin Harrison Jr.  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 9:21 pm : link
.
40 million dollar qb’s should know when to throw it away  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 9:21 pm : link
That TD is on Jones.
Daniel Jones, 140 million  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:22 pm : link
1/6, 0 yards, 0 completions, 1 interception and some scrambles.
LOL  
BleedBlue : 9/10/2023 9:22 pm : link
Doors BLOWN off

Neal is a piece of shit
I  
Toth029 : 9/10/2023 9:22 pm : link
Honestly don't get what's going on considering the speed at WR and Waller/Belly.
Will Dallas drop a 40 burger?  
rocco8112 : 9/10/2023 9:22 pm : link
Likely


This fucking sucks, couldn't write a worse start and no game to enjoy.

Man we are embarrassing  
jvm52106 : 9/10/2023 9:22 pm : link
Tonight..
pathetic INT  
amindan54 : 9/10/2023 9:22 pm : link
pathetic Defenseive efforttttt
Gotta love those 2 rookie CBS.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/10/2023 9:22 pm : link
Woof.
Well, I guess I won't need to worry about staying up late  
81_Great_Dane : 9/10/2023 9:22 pm : link
and having trouble waking up in the morning.
RE: RE: And jones  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 9:22 pm : link
In comment 16198365 LittleBlue said:
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In comment 16198356 thrunthrublue said:


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Got that big contract?



A good IQ test for giants fans tonights will be if they blame Jones


The INT to set up this TD was all on Jones. He had no business throwing that stupid INT.
I guess we overestimated  
DonnieD89 : 9/10/2023 9:22 pm : link
our team. This is pathetic.
Pathetic  
bwitz : 9/10/2023 9:22 pm : link
Embarrassing performance.
RE: Caleb Williams will look good in blue  
KDavies : 9/10/2023 9:22 pm : link
In comment 16198364 Knickstape said:
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Lol


Can he block?
RE: Daniel Jones, 140 million  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:22 pm : link
In comment 16198372 thefan said:
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1/6, 0 yards, 0 completions, 1 interception and some scrambles.


Sorry 2 interceptions.
RE: One of the worst  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 9:22 pm : link
In comment 16198367 Sammo85 said:
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Openers I’ve ever watched.


The fact that you have to say "one of" speaks more towards this franchise.
RE: One of the worst  
DisgruntledNYGfan : 9/10/2023 9:22 pm : link
In comment 16198367 Sammo85 said:
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Openers I’ve ever watched.


Shades of Week 1, 1995
These Bamas are about to put me to bed  
NYDCBlue : 9/10/2023 9:22 pm : link
EOM
NBC needs a John Mara  
Ike#88 : 9/10/2023 9:22 pm : link
cam
I wonder if they post  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 9:22 pm : link
50 on us tonight
RE: Daniel Jones, 140 million  
EGB_SoCal : 9/10/2023 9:22 pm : link
In comment 16198372 thefan said:
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1/6, 0 yards, 0 completions, 1 interception and some scrambles.


2 INT’s
RE: And jones  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 9:23 pm : link
In comment 16198356 thrunthrublue said:
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Got that big contract?


This script was written 2 years ago. Everyone crumbles around him, then Jones tries to force it. Clockwork
RE: Will Dallas drop a 40 burger?  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 9:23 pm : link
In comment 16198375 rocco8112 said:
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Likely


This fucking sucks, couldn't write a worse start and no game to enjoy.


40? They might hit 60 tonight.
This may be the worse game ever . I can't remember  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 9:23 pm : link
A team being scored on this easy ever
RE: RE: And jones  
christian : 9/10/2023 9:23 pm : link
In comment 16198365 LittleBlue said:
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In comment 16198356 thrunthrublue said:


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Got that big contract?



A good IQ test for giants fans tonights will be if they blame Jones


You caught the part where he threw the ball directly to the other team and then they scored a touchdown right?
1995  
George : 9/10/2023 9:23 pm : link
Looks familiar.
Those offseason victory laps look a little premature  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/10/2023 9:23 pm : link
.
Gotta blame someone  
Gmen703 : 9/10/2023 9:23 pm : link
Might as well blame DG for this shit show
I’m having  
Les in TO : 9/10/2023 9:23 pm : link
Bad flashbacks to the 1995 Monday night season opener at home vs Dallas.
honestly i like getting big weapons but there is a tendency to force  
amindan54 : 9/10/2023 9:23 pm : link
it to them


thats like the 3rd time i see Jones tonight force it to waller.....


id rahter him spread it around and find the open man

not force the ball to a haobbled waller.


Total disaster of a game  
cosmicj : 9/10/2023 9:23 pm : link
This is actually worse than that 1995 opener, imho.
Everybody sucks tonight  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 9:23 pm : link
There literally isn’t one coach or player to say “okay” and leave them be.

.  
jrdinsc : 9/10/2023 9:23 pm : link
This is the worst half of football I have ever seen. I know I am overreacting to one game but is there a single playmaker on this team tonight?
RE: Collinsworth is a fucking moron  
moze1021 : 9/10/2023 9:23 pm : link
In comment 16198355 thefan said:
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"the NFL is about scoring points" so college isn't?


Well his point was the game is called to significantly favor the passing offense in the NFL..
RE: I  
rocco8112 : 9/10/2023 9:23 pm : link
In comment 16198374 Toth029 said:
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Honestly don't get what's going on considering the speed at WR and Waller/Belly.


Smacked in mouth up front. Dominated.

Fuck it. Drop back and throw it long to Campbell and Hyatt  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 9:23 pm : link
Time to go to the Rex Grossman School of "Fuck It, I'm Going Deep"
RE: One of the worst  
Beezer : 9/10/2023 9:23 pm : link
In comment 16198367 Sammo85 said:
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Openers I’ve ever watched.


I can’t recall worse, in a season-opener, and I go back to the mid-70s.
RE: RE: Caleb Williams will look good in blue  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 9:23 pm : link
In comment 16198383 KDavies said:
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In comment 16198364 Knickstape said:


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Lol



Can he block?


Does it matter? We seem to take guys who can block in college and find ways for them to not block in the pros.
RE: RE: And jones  
bwitz : 9/10/2023 9:23 pm : link
In comment 16198365 LittleBlue said:
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In comment 16198356 thrunthrublue said:


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Got that big contract?



A good IQ test for giants fans tonights will be if they blame Jones


Ha. Yeah. Like he’s played well. Get a clue.
RE: RE: Daniel Jones, 140 million  
mfsd : 9/10/2023 9:23 pm : link
In comment 16198384 thefan said:
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In comment 16198372 thefan said:


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1/6, 0 yards, 0 completions, 1 interception and some scrambles.



Sorry 2 interceptions.


Last INT was terrible, but can’t hang this debacle on him. Our OL looks like a high school team out there
Some bad luck  
dlauster : 9/10/2023 9:24 pm : link
To start the game for sure, but this team is not prepared.
I am so impressed with Waller and Hiatt, and Campbell and  
HewlettGiant : 9/10/2023 9:24 pm : link
................
I realise if the OL does not provide time this is what you get
But why were we so excited?
RE: RE: And jones  
OBJRoyal : 9/10/2023 9:24 pm : link
In comment 16198365 LittleBlue said:
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In comment 16198356 thrunthrublue said:


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Got that big contract?



A good IQ test for giants fans tonights will be if they blame Jones


Can’t be the QB right??
RE: RE: Daniel Jones, 140 million  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 9:24 pm : link
In comment 16198390 EGB_SoCal said:
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In comment 16198372 thefan said:


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1/6, 0 yards, 0 completions, 1 interception and some scrambles.



2 INT’s


That first one shouldn't be on Jones. To me, that's a fumble...
The Cowboys have probably already won the game  
BigBlueBuff : 9/10/2023 9:24 pm : link
even if they don't score another point. There's no way this Giants team is capable of scoring 26 points.
Seriously this is 1995 deja vu  
Greg from LI : 9/10/2023 9:24 pm : link
1994 ended with a winning streak, lots of optimism for ‘95, they play Dallas at home on MNF opening night and get absolutely destroyed 35-3 while Jerruh cavorts on the sideline. Same kick in the balls kind of feeling.
Jones is acting like  
46and2Blue : 9/10/2023 9:24 pm : link
No one is open…he has time ….I mean all this speed and no is open really??
Disheartening to say the least.  
Gap92 : 9/10/2023 9:24 pm : link
We look completely inept and hopeless across the board. My expectations for this game seem laughable now.
RE: LOL  
NYPanos : 9/10/2023 9:24 pm : link
In comment 16198373 BleedBlue said:
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Doors BLOWN off

Neal is a piece of shit

Since everyone is playing bad he figured we won’t notice if he throws a INT. Might as well contribute to the mess. He is trying to be a team player.
They shouldn’t be drafting  
WillVAB : 9/10/2023 9:24 pm : link
Anything besides OL/DL until it’s fixed. The rest doesn’t mean dick if you can’t win up front.
If this is the Jones we get for the next two years  
JT039 : 9/10/2023 9:24 pm : link
Schoen should go too.
cowboys plan indoor adn they are much less bothered by this rain  
amindan54 : 9/10/2023 9:24 pm : link
its crazyyyyyyyy
Shocked at how  
Gjfro : 9/10/2023 9:24 pm : link
One sided this is…bought into the hype
I don’t know what to say  
UberAlias : 9/10/2023 9:24 pm : link
This is horrendous.
RE: Daniel Jones, 140 million  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 9:24 pm : link
In comment 16198372 thefan said:
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1/6, 0 yards, 0 completions, 1 interception and some scrambles.


2ints
Who said "this isn't 1995"?  
David B. : 9/10/2023 9:24 pm : link
Sure feels like it.
I wonder what the moneyline  
aquidneck : 9/10/2023 9:24 pm : link
on a Giants comback victory is?
RE: This may be the worse game ever . I can't remember  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 9:24 pm : link
In comment 16198393 Blue21 said:
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A team being scored on this easy ever


It's got to be mental at this point on some level.
They look like  
Costy16 : 9/10/2023 9:24 pm : link
They just met each other before the game. I’m going to bed, fuck this.
Sorry Dabol but...  
bluewave : 9/10/2023 9:25 pm : link
This is one's on you. This team looks completely unprepared!!! I don't know why, but that's what is on display for the whole country to see!!!!
We don't have anything to lose  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 9:25 pm : link
Almost half time and Jones hasn't completed a pass yet  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 9:25 pm : link
Has he?
RE: They shouldn’t be drafting  
HewlettGiant : 9/10/2023 9:25 pm : link
In comment 16198419 WillVAB said:
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Anything besides OL/DL until it’s fixed. The rest doesn’t mean dick if you can’t win up front.


And who should be doing the drafting.....
Holy  
Robert : 9/10/2023 9:25 pm : link
Shit.
also in the playoff game...  
amindan54 : 9/10/2023 9:25 pm : link
jones was setting people up for gigantic hits...

good thign its a 2 year commitmment.
Can Eric start  
JT039 : 9/10/2023 9:25 pm : link
The post game thread now?
Lets go out there like a bunch of crazed dogs...  
56GiantsUK : 9/10/2023 9:25 pm : link
Said no one on this current team...

Dallas were so up for this

We were not prepared ...

Watching some of the prior plays...  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 9:25 pm : link
it's unbelievable how incompetent the inside three are playing.
Time for Dallas  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 9:25 pm : link
defense to pad their stats
RE: They shouldn’t be drafting  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 9:25 pm : link
In comment 16198419 WillVAB said:
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Anything besides OL/DL until it’s fixed. The rest doesn’t mean dick if you can’t win up front.


We've got 2 top 7 picks and a 2nd rounder on the line. At some point there's a deeper problem.
This team  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 9:25 pm : link
has a tough first half of games. They don’t man up, they could easily be 2-6 by Halloween.
No one is playing well.  
larryflower37 : 9/10/2023 9:25 pm : link
I know we want to blame one player but every player has played horrible.
Blame the coaches because every phase of this team was not ready to play tonight
And just like that, the pundits are …  
Crispino : 9/10/2023 9:25 pm : link
proven right. Last year was an illusion. This roster is still hopelessly overmatched.
Ha!  
Bernie : 9/10/2023 9:25 pm : link
Maybe the starters should have played in the preseason. When r we going to learn, when this team starts talking about how good they are, it’s time to roll our eyes and prepare to be disappointed.
27-0 rest of the way  
SGMen : 9/10/2023 9:25 pm : link
LMAO! What a joke. This is totally embarrassing at home.
RE: RE: RE: And jones  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 9:26 pm : link
In comment 16198394 christian said:
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In comment 16198365 LittleBlue said:


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In comment 16198356 thrunthrublue said:


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Got that big contract?



A good IQ test for giants fans tonights will be if they blame Jones



You caught the part where he threw the ball directly to the other team and then they scored a touchdown right?


Is this satire?
Mara, you fooled me again  
Paulie Walnuts : 9/10/2023 9:26 pm : link
.took my money
This is embarrassing  
JohnB : 9/10/2023 9:26 pm : link
Painful
Pathetic
Not since the  
thrunthrublue : 9/10/2023 9:26 pm : link
Allie Sherman era have the giants looked this inept. They should have to play the Mr Softie jingle in their locker room at halftime.
Imma turn this shit off  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:26 pm : link
if we don't get a TD here.
Shades of the '95 opener  
Bramton1 : 9/10/2023 9:26 pm : link
.
Giants  
Giants : 9/10/2023 9:26 pm : link
Need two guards. That couldn't be any clearer
RE: Sorry Dabol but...  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 9:26 pm : link
In comment 16198430 bluewave said:
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This is one's on you. This team looks completely unprepared!!! I don't know why, but that's what is on display for the whole country to see!!!!
Gotta agree. When you don't play your starters in preseason I guess this is what u get.
Thanks for the damn birthday stinker Giants!  
Jonesin 4 A Ship : 9/10/2023 9:26 pm : link
Holy crap they look terrible
RE: If this is the Jones we get for the next two years  
LIbud : 9/10/2023 9:26 pm : link
In comment 16198421 JT039 said:
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Schoen should go too.



This is great
If you cannot block  
kelly : 9/10/2023 9:26 pm : link
You cannot run any offense.

Same problem different year
.
Its really very disappointing.


RE: RE: Daniel Jones, 140 million  
DefenseWins : 9/10/2023 9:26 pm : link
In comment 16198384 thefan said:
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In comment 16198372 thefan said:


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1/6, 0 yards, 0 completions, 1 interception and some scrambles.



Sorry 2 interceptions.


You are watching this game and your takeaway is Jones is the problem?
RE: The Cowboys have probably already won the game  
Crispino : 9/10/2023 9:26 pm : link
In comment 16198414 BigBlueBuff said:
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even if they don't score another point. There's no way this Giants team is capable of scoring 26 points.


The game was over at 16-0.
Looks  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 9:27 pm : link
like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.

A Dallas penalty is likely the only way we'll get a first down the rest of the game.
I guess they are sitting out Micah Parsons  
DonnieD89 : 9/10/2023 9:27 pm : link
now. LOL
RE: RE: The Cowboys have probably already won the game  
56GiantsUK : 9/10/2023 9:27 pm : link
In comment 16198459 Crispino said:
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In comment 16198414 BigBlueBuff said:


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even if they don't score another point. There's no way this Giants team is capable of scoring 26 points.



The game was over at 16-0.


The game was probably over at 6-0
RE: Jones is acting like  
wonderback : 9/10/2023 9:27 pm : link
In comment 16198416 46and2Blue said:
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No one is open…he has time ….I mean all this speed and no is open really??


“He has the time”? Are you nuts?
Kafka trying to come up with a play  
bluefin : 9/10/2023 9:27 pm : link
other than Saquon up the middle
RE: One of the worst  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 9:27 pm : link
In comment 16198367 Sammo85 said:
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Openers I’ve ever watched.


Do you remember the MNF opener at home against Dallas in 1995?
shout out to those who remember  
Giantsfan79 : 9/10/2023 9:27 pm : link
1995
This game got away from the Giants  
M.S. : 9/10/2023 9:28 pm : link

Lightening fast.

But that hardly means the season is over.

A lot more football ahead.
RE: I guess they are sitting out Micah Parsons  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 9:28 pm : link
In comment 16198461 DonnieD89 said:
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now. LOL


LOL
It is funny  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 9:28 pm : link
They have the luxury of leaving Parsons on the ben h
Games are won on the  
bluesince56 : 9/10/2023 9:28 pm : link
Lines. Jim Brown and Tom Brady couldn’t win with this OL
This start is worse than 1995, folks.  
Beezer : 9/10/2023 9:28 pm : link
Much worse.
RE: This game got away from the Giants  
ChrisRick : 9/10/2023 9:28 pm : link
In comment 16198468 M.S. said:
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Lightening fast.

But that hardly means the season is over.

A lot more football ahead.


Yep
Cowboys  
thrunthrublue : 9/10/2023 9:29 pm : link
Already resting parsons….
game over  
Boss 63 : 9/10/2023 9:29 pm : link
when dallas boarded plane
The best OL coach Bill Callahan  
yalebowl : 9/10/2023 9:29 pm : link
Is coaching the OL in Cleveland.

Trade a draft choice for him.
 
christian : 9/10/2023 9:29 pm : link
Thomas looks very gimpy.
And BTW  
Bernie : 9/10/2023 9:29 pm : link
We will never get over passing on Parsons.NEVER.
Jones  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:30 pm : link
Is he retarded?
.  
Banks : 9/10/2023 9:30 pm : link
we cant block anyone
Geezus  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 9:30 pm : link
Jones almost threw another pick.
Is Thoms  
wonderback : 9/10/2023 9:30 pm : link
Limping?
Old friend Jonathan Hankins  
mfsd : 9/10/2023 9:30 pm : link
eating our lunch too
Jones  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 9:30 pm : link
is stepping back when he throws.
 
christian : 9/10/2023 9:30 pm : link
Jezuz Jones
RE: Games are won on the  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 9:30 pm : link
In comment 16198471 bluesince56 said:
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Lines. Jim Brown and Tom Brady couldn’t win with this OL


^This.
RE: And BTW  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:30 pm : link
In comment 16198480 Bernie said:
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We will never get over passing on Parsons.NEVER.


Nope.
This is pathetic  
rocco8112 : 9/10/2023 9:30 pm : link

.
Jms  
Paulie Walnuts : 9/10/2023 9:31 pm : link
Is shakey I don't blame him
Its basically blue printed the defensive plan  
56GiantsUK : 9/10/2023 9:31 pm : link
for every team we face for the rest of the season..

Stack the box,

Come after Jones, you will get there...



this is why everyone said dont give him the contract...  
amindan54 : 9/10/2023 9:31 pm : link
franchise him


make him prove it another year......


Does Evan Neal have any feet?  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 9:31 pm : link
Dancing bear he ain't
Why can this OLine  
DonnieD89 : 9/10/2023 9:31 pm : link
Get fixed?
Welp, this is the game here  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:31 pm : link
Just kidding. This thing is cooked.
RE: RE: And BTW  
Paulie Walnuts : 9/10/2023 9:31 pm : link
In comment 16198490 thefan said:
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In comment 16198480 Bernie said:


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We will never get over passing on Parsons.NEVER.



Nope.
fuck Gettleman forever
This is a literal waking nightmare  
j_rud : 9/10/2023 9:31 pm : link
If you had a nightmare about this game last night this what it looked like.
There are problems  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 9:31 pm : link
an OL is going to have with a rookie at C. Schmitz looks overmatched and unable to make proper line calls.
Rush  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 9:31 pm : link
is warming up!
RE: RE: RE: Daniel Jones, 140 million  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:31 pm : link
In comment 16198458 DefenseWins said:
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In comment 16198384 thefan said:


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In comment 16198372 thefan said:


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1/6, 0 yards, 0 completions, 1 interception and some scrambles.



Sorry 2 interceptions.



You are watching this game and your takeaway is Jones is the problem?


Oh its more than him for sure.
Lol  
BleedBlue : 9/10/2023 9:32 pm : link
Evan Neal is beat every play
I'm not a fan  
fkap : 9/10/2023 9:32 pm : link
of the Daboll school of not playing starters in the preseason. You end up with a team not ready for primetime.

That said, I don't know what the Cowboy approach was.
RE: The best OL coach Bill Callahan  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 9:32 pm : link
In comment 16198476 yalebowl said:
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Is coaching the OL in Cleveland.

Trade a draft choice for him.


With respect to Callahan, the best OL Coach in the league is in Philly. The killer is we almost managed to get Stoutland here too.
O line  
jintsjunkie : 9/10/2023 9:32 pm : link
Bad bad bad. without AN OLINE, you do not win. We do not have one. Period.
Evan Neal  
46and2Blue : 9/10/2023 9:32 pm : link
Is horrible
No protection  
Mark from Jersey : 9/10/2023 9:32 pm : link
At all. Can’t get to Dak either. Losing the battles up front.
I’ll be interested to see, when this is all done,  
Beezer : 9/10/2023 9:32 pm : link
mercifully, the percentage of passing plays where he is NOT pressured.

Very few clean pockets so far … is it possible there have been none?
Thomas pulled a muscle trying to tackle the guy on the kick-off block  
HewlettGiant : 9/10/2023 9:32 pm : link
.
We can hope all we want  
Phils2008 : 9/10/2023 9:32 pm : link
Neal is a bust, and will always be a bust.
They are all  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 9:32 pm : link
making fun of us even the announcers
Nice play  
rocco8112 : 9/10/2023 9:32 pm : link
.
Even if giants  
thrunthrublue : 9/10/2023 9:32 pm : link
Added three more O linemen, jones would still be throwing int’s.
Disgraceful  
kelly : 9/10/2023 9:32 pm : link
Monday night start of the season on our home field and we are getting our asses kicked.


Well we cant blame Dave Gettlemen anymore.
RE: …  
JT039 : 9/10/2023 9:33 pm : link
In comment 16198478 christian said:
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Thomas looks very gimpy.


They should sit him. What’s the point. Game is over.
Neal looks  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 9:33 pm : link
horrific
I  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 9:33 pm : link
don't think there was been a single pass play where Jones didn't start running after two seconds.
RE: shout out to those who remember  
rnargi : 9/10/2023 9:33 pm : link
In comment 16198467 Giantsfan79 said:
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1995


Yup. Crossed my mind 20 minutes ago. Thought we'd be able to go toe to toe with them. Nope. 35-0 wipeout
RE: Even if giants  
Beezer : 9/10/2023 9:33 pm : link
In comment 16198516 thrunthrublue said:
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Added three more O linemen, jones would still be throwing int’s.


That’s a bad take.
Feel so bad for Jones. And still feel awful for Eli  
BlueHurricane : 9/10/2023 9:33 pm : link
This team has not had a competent line in so many years.
RE: RE: RE: And BTW  
mfsd : 9/10/2023 9:34 pm : link
In comment 16198499 Paulie Walnuts said:
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In comment 16198490 thefan said:


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In comment 16198480 Bernie said:


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We will never get over passing on Parsons.NEVER.



Nope.

fuck Gettleman forever


Didn’t Parsons want to be a Giants? But of course Giants thought he was a character red flag, they prefer high class citizens like Deandre Baker and Eli Apple
RE: RE: shout out to those who remember  
BlueHurricane : 9/10/2023 9:34 pm : link
In comment 16198522 rnargi said:
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In comment 16198467 Giantsfan79 said:


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1995



Yup. Crossed my mind 20 minutes ago. Thought we'd be able to go toe to toe with them. Nope. 35-0 wipeout


That night will forever be burned in my brain. Unlike that night I’m not at the game, thank god.
Neal is the Eli Apple of RTs  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 9:35 pm : link
No effort
RE: Disgraceful  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/10/2023 9:35 pm : link
In comment 16198518 kelly said:
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Monday night start of the season on our home field and we are getting our asses kicked.


Well we cant blame Dave Gettlemen anymore.

The fuck we can't. Is there a statute of limitations for your precious DG?
Neal looks worse than last year,  
Silver Spoon : 9/10/2023 9:35 pm : link
If that’s possible.
RE: Neal is the Eli Apple of RTs  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 9:35 pm : link
In comment 16198528 Thunderstruck27 said:
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No effort


So he's Ereck Flowers?
RE: RE: RE: RE: And BTW  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:35 pm : link
In comment 16198526 mfsd said:
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In comment 16198499 Paulie Walnuts said:


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In comment 16198490 thefan said:


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In comment 16198480 Bernie said:


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We will never get over passing on Parsons.NEVER.



Nope.

fuck Gettleman forever



Didn’t Parsons want to be a Giants? But of course Giants thought he was a character red flag, they prefer high class citizens like Deandre Baker and Eli Apple


Don't forget Kadarius Toney.
RE: Even if giants  
KDavies : 9/10/2023 9:35 pm : link
In comment 16198516 thrunthrublue said:
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Added three more O linemen, jones would still be throwing int’s.


He threw 5 all last year…..
Evan Neal  
kelly : 9/10/2023 9:36 pm : link
Cannot move his feet. I dont even know if he could play guard.

Wasted pick.
RE: RE: RE: RE: And BTW  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 9:36 pm : link
In comment 16198526 mfsd said:
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In comment 16198499 Paulie Walnuts said:


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In comment 16198490 thefan said:


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In comment 16198480 Bernie said:


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We will never get over passing on Parsons.NEVER.



Nope.

fuck Gettleman forever



Didn’t Parsons want to be a Giants? But of course Giants thought he was a character red flag, they prefer high class citizens like Deandre Baker and Eli Apple


Yes, Parsons wanted to be here.
Where’s the 2023 version  
Jaenyg : 9/10/2023 9:36 pm : link
Of Monica Seles?
RE: RE: Neal is the Eli Apple of RTs  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 9:37 pm : link
In comment 16198531 Anakim said:
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In comment 16198528 Thunderstruck27 said:


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No effort



So he's Ereck Flowers?


Ereck Flowers was actually serviceable at some point. But not far off
How many times do I need to hear Carl on the radio  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 9:37 pm : link
Talk about how if Barkley saw the right side opening up or if he stuck behind his blocking or whatever else, he’d be still running?
RE: Evan Neal  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 9:37 pm : link
In comment 16198534 kelly said:
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Cannot move his feet. I dont even know if he could play guard.

Wasted pick.


So far Ekwonu, taken by Panthers two picks later has been absolutely terrible so far too.
Honestly….  
shocktheworld : 9/10/2023 9:37 pm : link
I’m just bummed…
RE: Evan Neal  
prdave73 : 9/10/2023 9:37 pm : link
In comment 16198509 46and2Blue said:
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Is horrible



Agree.. He is bad.. wow
What we have behind  
46and2Blue : 9/10/2023 9:38 pm : link
Evan Neal is worse if you can imagine that
2 minute warning  
SGMen : 9/10/2023 9:38 pm : link
Well, if we get to 26-7 at least we won't be shut out.

Then we see if our coaches can make adjustments and at least execute the 2nd half. I knew our interior OL would struggle but expected Neal to be better and well Thomas too.
Really surprised at this crap  
shocktheworld : 9/10/2023 9:38 pm : link
and feel “cheated” on…. Never saw it coming
I think Evan Neal should retire  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 9:38 pm : link
.
Neal  
ChrisRick : 9/10/2023 9:38 pm : link
Not giving proper effort does not match his character. He is not playing well, but his effort is fine
Evan Neal getting torched.  
bceagle05 : 9/10/2023 9:38 pm : link
.
That  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 9:38 pm : link
was absolutely awful by Neal.

Could Peart be worse than Neal right now?
Oh fuck  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 9:38 pm : link
Neal misses block again
 
christian : 9/10/2023 9:38 pm : link
They gotta sit Neal down.
Neal needs to see the bench  
BlueHurricane : 9/10/2023 9:38 pm : link
Fuck him.
Why os Hyatt not playing?  
prdave73 : 9/10/2023 9:38 pm : link
another thing I hate about the Giants, play the Rookie! who cares they need weapons right now! Every other team with rookie WR's played them today?!?! Not the Giants...
MOVE EVAN NEAL TO G  
amindan54 : 9/10/2023 9:38 pm : link
he cant block

hes the worst T in teh sport....
Evan neal is complete dog shit  
Knickstape : 9/10/2023 9:39 pm : link
So fucking bad
.  
Banks : 9/10/2023 9:39 pm : link
looks like he slipped going back
Neal...oh boy  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 9:39 pm : link
No bueno
Neal  
Silver Spoon : 9/10/2023 9:39 pm : link
Absolutely horrific.
The OL  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 9:39 pm : link
looks thoroughly unprepared for what Cowboys are doing to them.

Evan Neal looks like he only started playing football three weeks ago.
Evan Neal just said...oh  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 9:39 pm : link
You think I can't be any worse?
Jones  
rocco8112 : 9/10/2023 9:39 pm : link
Wtf
Neal sucks.  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 9:39 pm : link
He is awful
RE: I think Evan Neal should retire  
mfsd : 9/10/2023 9:39 pm : link
In comment 16198550 Anakim said:
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He’s been a total disaster tonight. Unreal
Neal might go down as  
JT039 : 9/10/2023 9:39 pm : link
The worst pick in our history and there’s a lot to choose from.
Jesus! Neal held him and he still got a sack!  
NYDCBlue : 9/10/2023 9:39 pm : link
Dude is looking like he is going to tank our season.... :(
Play Hyatt!!  
prdave73 : 9/10/2023 9:39 pm : link
damn..
Might have to sit Neal  
j_rud : 9/10/2023 9:39 pm : link
Atrocious. Just atrocious. Unreal.
Evan Neal  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 9/10/2023 9:39 pm : link

sucks. There’s just no way around it.
papa  
Boss 63 : 9/10/2023 9:39 pm : link
ran over him as if he was not there
Campbell can't make the catch  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 9:40 pm : link
That Dallas'defender did. Shit pass tho
Neal can’t block guys  
Giants86 : 9/10/2023 9:40 pm : link
………
It’s sad.  
DonnieD89 : 9/10/2023 9:40 pm : link
Neal is just not good.
I've been watching Neal  
D HOS : 9/10/2023 9:40 pm : link
We need to line up two right tackles the rest of the game.
Neal is obviously ass  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:40 pm : link
but our line in general looks like swiss cheese. The Sy report will be a brutal read.
RE: Neal might go down as  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 9:40 pm : link
In comment 16198570 JT039 said:
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The worst pick in our history and there’s a lot to choose from.


No pick will ever be worse than Joe Don Looney.
If Giants  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 9:40 pm : link
don’t score more here and Cowboys add points mid 3rd quarter, I’d sit Jones rest of game.
No way Jones makes it through this game  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 9:40 pm : link
With this oline
LOL  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 9:40 pm : link
When even Gano isn't good...
Wow dude.  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:40 pm : link
Wow.
HAHAHAHAHAHA  
guitarguybs12 : 9/10/2023 9:40 pm : link
THIS TEAM IS OUT OF CONTROL
RE: Play Hyatt!!  
j_rud : 9/10/2023 9:40 pm : link
In comment 16198572 prdave73 said:
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damn..


They could have prime Randy Moss and Jerry Rice and they still couldn't get them the ball. They can't block a soul.
Any chance  
mittenedman : 9/10/2023 9:40 pm : link
Jones got a concussion on that first run?
Giants  
WillVAB : 9/10/2023 9:40 pm : link
Must give high grades to OL with shitty feet.
if schoen missing on Neal and the DJ contract....  
amindan54 : 9/10/2023 9:40 pm : link
that might tank his career.
We’re gonna get shut out tonight  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 9:40 pm : link
-
Another wasted season  
kelly : 9/10/2023 9:41 pm : link
We arent going to beat philly or dallas so we arent going anywhere.
And  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 9:41 pm : link
now Gano misses a short FG.
When it rains it pours.  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 9:41 pm : link
Just wave the white flag.
Put a 74 on 73  
thrunthrublue : 9/10/2023 9:41 pm : link
And you have flowers redux.
Neal is a bust  
UberAlias : 9/10/2023 9:41 pm : link
That is going to hurt.
Giants cant run an offense  
nygiants16 : 9/10/2023 9:41 pm : link
Jones is running for his life on every pass play
Are they throwing the game  
rocco8112 : 9/10/2023 9:41 pm : link
Did they prepare for the season at all?

Absolute disaster  
Sean : 9/10/2023 9:41 pm : link
.
This is worse  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 9:41 pm : link
than 95.
oh my god  
gtt350 : 9/10/2023 9:41 pm : link
,
remarkable  
sb2003 : 9/10/2023 9:41 pm : link
just fucking remarkable.
Oh for fuck’s sake.  
bceagle05 : 9/10/2023 9:41 pm : link
This may be even worse than the Philly playoff game.
Lol...  
rnargi : 9/10/2023 9:41 pm : link
Thankfully they extended Gano
..
Why make that  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 9:41 pm : link
this is an abomination
Gano missed. He never misses  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 9:41 pm : link
Giants should just forfeit here
RE: Any chance  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 9:41 pm : link
In comment 16198588 mittenedman said:
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Jones got a concussion on that first run?


If so he should be sitting
If Neal Really Is This Bad  
wonderback : 9/10/2023 9:41 pm : link
The season is toast. Let’s hope, for whatever reason, he’s just having a bad game
This game was going so well  
santacruzom : 9/10/2023 9:41 pm : link
And that blocked kick for a score was the first result of an incredibly powerful curse.
This is a fucking joke  
Chocco : 9/10/2023 9:41 pm : link
Right?
This is a fucking  
mfsd : 9/10/2023 9:41 pm : link
Greek Tragedy
Be proud of everybody. Be proud.  
State Your Name : 9/10/2023 9:41 pm : link
Because you don’t suck as much at your jobs as the Giants do. Why dont you fucking play 1 Down in the preseason with your fucking starters? Goddamn, fucking bullshit. I fucking hate these guys. I spend my blood money on this. I visit this site 10 times a day. And this is what I get. I spend my blood money on this shit. Now I’m going home at halftime. Get laughed out of my stadium again. I’m done.


Talk is cheap. Play the game.



Talk is cheap. Play the game.
….  
CoughlinHandsonHips : 9/10/2023 9:41 pm : link
I’m scared to say it, but could it get any worse?
RE: RE: Play Hyatt!!  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 9:41 pm : link
In comment 16198587 j_rud said:
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In comment 16198572 prdave73 said:


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damn..



They could have prime Randy Moss and Jerry Rice and they still couldn't get them the ball. They can't block a soul.


My concern is we could have prime Anthony Munoz and Alan Faneca and this line would still suck.
When everyone fails to execute...  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 9:41 pm : link
Who is to blame?
The team is in a hex.  
cosmicj : 9/10/2023 9:42 pm : link
I thought there was a blocking mistake in the left side on the Gano Miss, too.
It’s a game  
46and2Blue : 9/10/2023 9:42 pm : link
I get it…but man it can make you feel bad
I swear to God this is a collective nightmare  
j_rud : 9/10/2023 9:42 pm : link
This cant be real.
 
christian : 9/10/2023 9:42 pm : link
The line has been atrocious and Jones has not been sharp.

Nothing has gone right.
guy missed 3  
Boss 63 : 9/10/2023 9:42 pm : link
all last year. they could not beat a hs team
Waited all god damn off-season for this lol  
Knickstape : 9/10/2023 9:42 pm : link
What a joke.

We continue to get raw dogged by the nfc East
Wow!  
DonnieD89 : 9/10/2023 9:42 pm : link
Give Gano an extension and he misses his first two field goal attempts. What else can go wrong?
.  
Danny Kanell : 9/10/2023 9:42 pm : link
Even gano sucks tonight. That actually in a sick way makes me feel better. This is just one of those nights
RE: When it rains it pours.  
NYDCBlue : 9/10/2023 9:42 pm : link
In comment 16198595 FStubbs said:
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Just wave the white flag.



Where is Dido when you need her?
And now out Pro Bowl kicker just hooks the shit outta it  
Greg from LI : 9/10/2023 9:42 pm : link
They have utterly failed at everything they have tried to do
RE: When everyone fails to execute...  
46and2Blue : 9/10/2023 9:42 pm : link
In comment 16198617 Thunderstruck27 said:
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Who is to blame?


The coaches
Normally I don't like it  
santacruzom : 9/10/2023 9:42 pm : link
When my kids see horror movie commercials but it's not as scary as this football game.
RE: RE: RE: RE: And BTW  
Bernie : 9/10/2023 9:42 pm : link
In comment 16198526 mfsd said:
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In comment 16198499 Paulie Walnuts said:


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In comment 16198490 thefan said:


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In comment 16198480 Bernie said:


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We will never get over passing on Parsons.NEVER.



Nope.

fuck Gettleman forever



Didn’t Parsons want to be a Giants? But of course Giants thought he was a character red flag, they prefer high class citizens like Deandre Baker and Eli Apple


Yep, relied on the opinion of the Dline coach at the time who used to coach at Penn State. But hey, the Giants have Neal, KT, Waller and Hawkins instead of Parsons. Awesome.
Perhaps after this humiliation  
dlauster : 9/10/2023 9:42 pm : link
They will get to work. Clearly not much happened in the pre season
Start like this is on  
rocco8112 : 9/10/2023 9:42 pm : link
the HC.

Giants failing in every respect.
RE: If Neal Really Is This Bad  
DaveInTampa : 9/10/2023 9:42 pm : link
In comment 16198610 wonderback said:
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The season is toast. Let’s hope, for whatever reason, he’s just having a bad game


Except he has looked like this in every game he has played
Has Hyatt seen the field yet?  
Matt M. : 9/10/2023 9:43 pm : link
??
NFL  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 9:43 pm : link
is going to regret putting Giants in so many prime time games this year.
Neal  
mittenedman : 9/10/2023 9:43 pm : link
may still be a good G. He can’t play in space.
Hahahahahahaha  
Beezer : 9/10/2023 9:43 pm : link
Wooooo!!!
This team was not prepared and the lack of preseason reps  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 9/10/2023 9:43 pm : link
shows tonight. They are getting out physicald, out hustled and worse of all...no heart. The Team is in dissarray as Gano misses FG badly.
They have to give Neal help  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 9:43 pm : link
Whoever he tries to block gets a free run.
RE: RE: When everyone fails to execute...  
bluewave : 9/10/2023 9:43 pm : link
In comment 16198630 46and2Blue said:
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In comment 16198617 Thunderstruck27 said:


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Who is to blame?



The coaches


Agreed. This team DOES NOT LOOK PREPARED AT ALL!!!!!
Time to brush off your resume, Joe DeCamillis  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 9:43 pm : link
.
Just about everyone  
46and2Blue : 9/10/2023 9:43 pm : link
We spent money on has been a bag of crap tonight
That was huge for Dallas  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 9:43 pm : link
If I'm them, I take a couple of knees and go into the locker room up 26-0 secure in knowing I get the ball to start the 3rd Quarter. They can also let the Giants stew. After that missed kick, the Giants are even more demoralized.
I blame  
igotyourbackman : 9/10/2023 9:43 pm : link
The rain

It’s cursed
I honestly believed we passed Dallas in talent  
Matt M. : 9/10/2023 9:43 pm : link
and overall. This has been nothing short of embarrassing.
Daboll gonna take a bunch of crap after this game  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 9:43 pm : link
And unfortunately deserves it.
RE: if schoen missing on Neal and the DJ contract....  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 9:43 pm : link
In comment 16198590 amindan54 said:
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that might tank his career.


The Jones deal can be gotten out of. NYG had no real alternative.
Ah, lovely. Tae Banks celebrates and then gets hobbled.  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 9:43 pm : link
Cool, cool
Cowboys  
thrunthrublue : 9/10/2023 9:44 pm : link
Can rest their starters in the second half, hell…suit up some of their cheerleaders and have the ladies push 73 around some more!
Sometimes it seems like  
santacruzom : 9/10/2023 9:44 pm : link
The entire point of Giants games is to prove Go Terps right about everything he says.
Daboll held the starters out too much in the pre-season.  
Poktown Pete : 9/10/2023 9:44 pm : link
It's not like we're the reigning champs. They didn't earn that, and they weren't ready tonight as a result.
RE: Neal is a bust  
WillVAB : 9/10/2023 9:44 pm : link
In comment 16198597 UberAlias said:
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That is going to hurt.


He could have a future at RG if RT doesn’t work out.
And now Banks is  
mittenedman : 9/10/2023 9:44 pm : link
hurt lol
Can't block Dex 1 on 1  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:44 pm : link
nope
RE: Neal  
56GiantsUK : 9/10/2023 9:44 pm : link
In comment 16198639 mittenedman said:
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may still be a good G. He can’t play in space.


Neither can I...no atmosphere...

Not enough blame going to the coaches  
US1 Giants : 9/10/2023 9:45 pm : link
This team was nowhere ready to face adversity tonight.
I just remembered that Bobby Okereke is playing tonight  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 9:45 pm : link
.
The NFC is very top heavy  
Sean : 9/10/2023 9:45 pm : link
It's Philly, SF and then a HUGE drop off. The good news is the Giants should be able to handle the other NFC teams.

The bad news is this team isn't close to the top tier teams and the schedule is tough playing the AFC east.
RE: Daboll held the starters out too much in the pre-season.  
bluesince56 : 9/10/2023 9:45 pm : link
In comment 16198657 Poktown Pete said:
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It's not like we're the reigning champs. They didn't earn that, and they weren't ready tonight as a result.


Agree
RE: Daboll gonna take a bunch of crap after this game  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/10/2023 9:45 pm : link
In comment 16198651 Blue21 said:
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And unfortunately deserves it.


As well as he should. Team came out & laid an egg.
RE: Ah, lovely. Tae Banks celebrates and then gets hobbled.  
RDJR : 9/10/2023 9:45 pm : link
In comment 16198653 Anakim said:
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Cool, cool


This. WTf was that?
Not enough time to prepare between the last preseason  
yalebowl : 9/10/2023 9:45 pm : link
Game and the first game of the season.

Plus, they had to travel for a road game
RE: Sometimes it seems like  
bceagle05 : 9/10/2023 9:45 pm : link
In comment 16198655 santacruzom said:
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The entire point of Giants games is to prove Go Terps right about everything he says.

Most knowledgeable person in the site, in my opinion. Shame that a bunch is sensitive souls who couldn’t handle being wrong chased him away.
RE: The NFC is very top heavy  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 9:46 pm : link
In comment 16198665 Sean said:
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It's Philly, SF and then a HUGE drop off. The good news is the Giants should be able to handle the other NFC teams.

The bad news is this team isn't close to the top tier teams and the schedule is tough playing the AFC east.


Eh, this team is nowhere near Dallas. The way they look tonight, they're going to have trouble with Arizona.
This team wasn't physically prepared tonight .  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 9/10/2023 9:46 pm : link
It is probably best just to play 2nd stringers in 2nd half...no need for effort here the game is lost.
And we have the toughest schedule...  
56GiantsUK : 9/10/2023 9:46 pm : link
Bodes well doesn't it...
Did someone make a deal with the devil  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:46 pm : link
two get those last two SBs over Brady?
RE: The NFC is very top heavy  
dpinzow : 9/10/2023 9:46 pm : link
In comment 16198665 Sean said:
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It's Philly, SF and then a HUGE drop off. The good news is the Giants should be able to handle the other NFC teams.

The bad news is this team isn't close to the top tier teams and the schedule is tough playing the AFC east.


But there were people on this board saying that the NFC was "wide open" for the Giants to win!
 
ryanmkeane : 9/10/2023 9:46 pm : link
I think they were ready. First drive proved it. Blocked kick shell shocked them and we never recovered. Brutal.
Accolades to Prescott? Seriously? Giants have given him this  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 9:46 pm : link
game.
Wow.  
MauiYankee : 9/10/2023 9:46 pm : link
That new Dallas kicker has a great leg.
RE: Daboll held the starters out too much in the pre-season.  
DonnieD89 : 9/10/2023 9:46 pm : link
In comment 16198657 Poktown Pete said:
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It's not like we're the reigning champs. They didn't earn that, and they weren't ready tonight as a result.


I was thinking the same thing, also. I think they could’ve played a little bit more in the preseason. A lot of rust.
Many got ridiculed  
UGADawgs7 : 9/10/2023 9:46 pm : link
Last year for saying Neal needs to move to Guard. It’s his only chance of success. I know it is only 1 half, but yikes is he playing bad.
RE: RE: The NFC is very top heavy  
Sean : 9/10/2023 9:46 pm : link
In comment 16198673 FStubbs said:
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In comment 16198665 Sean said:


Quote:


It's Philly, SF and then a HUGE drop off. The good news is the Giants should be able to handle the other NFC teams.

The bad news is this team isn't close to the top tier teams and the schedule is tough playing the AFC east.



Eh, this team is nowhere near Dallas. The way they look tonight, they're going to have trouble with Arizona.

I meant to include Dallas on the top tier group as well.
Cool. At this pace we'll lose 52-0  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 9:46 pm : link
Can the NFL investigate if this team bet on their opponent?
I think Banks might have torn his Achilles  
Ned In Atlanta : 9/10/2023 9:47 pm : link
Celebrating
RE: Many got ridiculed  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:47 pm : link
In comment 16198682 UGADawgs7 said:
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Last year for saying Neal needs to move to Guard. It’s his only chance of success. I know it is only 1 half, but yikes is he playing bad.


He's on his way, definitely need to see more games though.
So  
Giant volunteer 79 : 9/10/2023 9:48 pm : link
O line still sucks and we wasted 2 top 10 picks on Neal and Thibs. They both look asleep more often than not. Jones hoodwinked us all and is richer for it. Rookie corners I can live with as long as there is some growth this season. This is so tiresome. I keep trying to figure out what happened? Did the team sell its soul to beat Brady twice? Glad I didn’t pony up for Ticket. Same sad crap. Rinse, lather, repeat.
RE: I think Banks might have torn his Achilles  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:48 pm : link
In comment 16198689 Ned In Atlanta said:
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Celebrating


Not cool
RE: I think Banks might have torn his Achilles  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 9:48 pm : link
In comment 16198689 Ned In Atlanta said:
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Celebrating


When it rains it pours.
RE: I think Banks might have torn his Achilles  
ChrisRick : 9/10/2023 9:48 pm : link
In comment 16198689 Ned In Atlanta said:
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Celebrating


And why do you think that?
RE: Not enough time to prepare between the last preseason  
Matt M. : 9/10/2023 9:48 pm : link
In comment 16198671 yalebowl said:
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Game and the first game of the season.

Plus, they had to travel for a road game
Not enpough time? They had 2 weeks.
Team not ready to play  
RAIN : 9/10/2023 9:48 pm : link
This is on Dabs.
RE: I think Banks might have torn his Achilles  
BleedBlue : 9/10/2023 9:48 pm : link
In comment 16198689 Ned In Atlanta said:
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Celebrating



What? Based on what?
RE: …  
christian : 9/10/2023 9:48 pm : link
In comment 16198678 ryanmkeane said:
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I think they were ready. First drive proved it. Blocked kick shell shocked them and we never recovered. Brutal.


Neal, up and down, right Mr. Credible?
Saquon should be pumped  
LittleBlue : 9/10/2023 9:48 pm : link
After this season a team without a decade long failure of offensive line might sign him.
Play the 1s in the preseason  
State Your Name : 9/10/2023 9:48 pm : link
Fucking pussies! Fuck you Joe Shoen you pretty boy fag piece of shit. Ban me .I don’t give a shit. I’ll just rejoin with a dupe again like I did the last six time's. I spend my fucking blood money on this! Fuck you Giants! Fuck you! Fuck you! Fuck you! Fuck you! Fuck you! Have fun banning me mods. Fuck you. Fuck you too. Fuck this whole site. Fuck the New York Giants. Fuck them forever. Fuck the faggot piece of shit owner John Mara. Fuck everybody! I’m out.


But before I go. Forever. Fuck the Cowboys. Fuck them forever. One day we will beat them. One day. And I will be there. I will be there instead of all you fucking faggots sitting on your mother‘s couches. Fuck you too.
Hard To Describe  
Jeffrey : 9/10/2023 9:48 pm : link
Jones is flustered and playing poorly, Neal’s a major bust and the defense was not ready for this game. This team cannot be as bad as it looks.
RE: Many got ridiculed  
Gmen703 : 9/10/2023 9:49 pm : link
In comment 16198682 UGADawgs7 said:
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Last year for saying Neal needs to move to Guard. It’s his only chance of success. I know it is only 1 half, but yikes is he playing bad.


The tackle experiment is over.
Stadium will be empty  
Paulie Walnuts : 9/10/2023 9:49 pm : link
After half time so disappointed
RE: Saquon should be pumped  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 9:49 pm : link
In comment 16198703 LittleBlue said:
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After this season a team without a decade long failure of offensive line might sign him.


Shit, if this continues, I'd trade him
Welcome back  
MauiYankee : 9/10/2023 9:49 pm : link
Coach Arnsparger.
Pretty simple  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/10/2023 9:49 pm : link
Young and Parcells determined your OL and overall LOS dictates games.

Tom Coughlin understood this and made it priority number one and returned the franchise that standard.

Reese/Ross destroyed the foundation of the franchise. Dave failed to turn that destruction around.

JS/BD welcome to the NFCE. Have you figured out it out yet?
RE: Stadium will be empty  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 9:49 pm : link
In comment 16198708 Paulie Walnuts said:
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After half time so disappointed


Au contraire. Plenty of Cowboys fans there.
RE: Stadium will be empty  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 9:49 pm : link
In comment 16198708 Paulie Walnuts said:
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After half time so disappointed


They’ll get their medium Pepsis on the way out the door and like it!
RE: RE: Many got ridiculed  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 9:50 pm : link
In comment 16198691 thefan said:
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In comment 16198682 UGADawgs7 said:


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Last year for saying Neal needs to move to Guard. It’s his only chance of success. I know it is only 1 half, but yikes is he playing bad.



He's on his way, definitely need to see more games though.
problem is, who do we put at RT if Neal moves inside? Peart is generally as bad.
We may have a new GM, head coach and personnel  
Dang Man : 9/10/2023 9:50 pm : link
But until we’re not consistently owned by Dallas and Philly we can’t really consider ourselves contenders.
RE: RE: I think Banks might have torn his Achilles  
gersh : 9/10/2023 9:50 pm : link
In comment 16198700 BleedBlue said:
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In comment 16198689 Ned In Atlanta said:


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Celebrating


Think he was kidding
Not a good joke. Ever




What? Based on what?
Someone is going  
NYPanos : 9/10/2023 9:50 pm : link
Maaaad. Calm down.
RE: RE: Many got ridiculed  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 9:50 pm : link
In comment 16198691 thefan said:
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In comment 16198682 UGADawgs7 said:


Quote:


Last year for saying Neal needs to move to Guard. It’s his only chance of success. I know it is only 1 half, but yikes is he playing bad.



He's on his way, definitely need to see more games though.
problem is, who do we put at RT if Neal moves inside? Peart is generally as bad.
I think the coaches need to worry less about what the fans wear(Blue  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 9:50 pm : link
Night) and how loud they are and worry more about their team prep. The fans will scream and yell if you give them a reason.
They were probably  
Mattman : 9/10/2023 9:51 pm : link
Believing their hype . Maybe getting humbled will wake them up
Hyatt drops his first pass  
jeff57 : 9/10/2023 9:51 pm : link
.
Hyatt  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 9:51 pm : link
with the drop, although the pass was behind him.

And then Jones is sacked again.
RE: Hard To Describe  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 9/10/2023 9:51 pm : link
In comment 16198705 Jeffrey said:
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Jones is flustered and playing poorly, Neal’s a major bust and the defense was not ready for this game. This team cannot be as bad as it looks.


Yes it can look this bad, the coaches did not get the players ready to play this game and they lacked preseason reps and it shows.
Play Hyatt...  
prdave73 : 9/10/2023 9:51 pm : link
I don't care of they don't have tome to pass. It can't hurt at this point! See what the rookie can do? Stupid Giants.
Let the clock run out  
thefan : 9/10/2023 9:51 pm : link
on this god awful half. I'm gonna watch something else.
So...  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 9:51 pm : link
Hyatt isn't immune
Neal held his own on last play  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 9:51 pm : link
because his guy did not rush the passer.
Poor  
JT039 : 9/10/2023 9:51 pm : link
Throw.
I’m so angry  
Steve L : 9/10/2023 9:51 pm : link
Just angry.

????????????????  
MauiYankee : 9/10/2023 9:51 pm : link
Can this team beat a division rival?
Booed off the field  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 9:51 pm : link
Good
This is 100% on the coaches.  
bradshaw44 : 9/10/2023 9:51 pm : link
And I think it’s bad enough this team may not recover. This is the most. Epic loss (so far) by this team I can remember. And it always happens in prime time. And it always happens against the fucking cowboys.

Daboll and Schoen must have bought into their own hype. And boy do I hope they come back and win to make me look stupid. I’m begging and praying for it. I’ll happily eat crow


This team has been a rudderless
Joke since Tom Coughlin walked out that door. It’s a fact. Yea we win here and there. But we are a fucking joke. JOKE
I never thought Jones was very good  
santacruzom : 9/10/2023 9:51 pm : link
At hitting guys going across the field in stride. We just saw it there on that pass to Hyatt.
Daboll from coach of the year to on the hot seat....  
fredgbrown : 9/10/2023 9:52 pm : link
team is not ready to play football.
You cannot go into the season  
kelly : 9/10/2023 9:52 pm : link
With no real backup plan if Neal does not improve.

Hope is not a plan.

We really have no one else to put at tackle. Tyre Phillips is a better tackle than Neal and we cut him.

I will say the few times i focused on jms he looked solid. Glowinski as usual cannot pass block.

So our two worst pass blockers are at right guard and right tackle. That explains alot.

Eric Flowers was all pro compared to Neal.
Boo birds and well deserved  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 9:52 pm : link
.
Feels a little  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 9:52 pm : link
like a victory formation moment at the end of the half
Jones avoids sack  
thrunthrublue : 9/10/2023 9:52 pm : link
On final play of first half.
Parsons pushing 2 of our olinemen  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 9:52 pm : link
Out of the play
RE: ????????????????  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 9:52 pm : link
In comment 16198737 MauiYankee said:
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Can this team beat a division rival?


Yes.
Old reliable: the redskins.

At least once…
RE: ????????????????  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 9:52 pm : link
In comment 16198737 MauiYankee said:
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Can this team beat a division rival?


The Commanders. But not the Eagles or the Cowboys.
RE: Pretty simple  
Sean : 9/10/2023 9:52 pm : link
In comment 16198711 Lines of Scrimmage said:
Quote:
Young and Parcells determined your OL and overall LOS dictates games.

Tom Coughlin understood this and made it priority number one and returned the franchise that standard.

Reese/Ross destroyed the foundation of the franchise. Dave failed to turn that destruction around.

JS/BD welcome to the NFCE. Have you figured out it out yet?

Reese is seriously being brought up still? Come on.
Saquon probably wishing  
bceagle05 : 9/10/2023 9:52 pm : link
he was watching from a suite like Chris Jones the other night.
RE: Hyatt  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 9:53 pm : link
In comment 16198727 AcidTest said:
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with the drop, although the pass was behind him.

And then Jones is sacked again.


Not a great pass...
Is it Tim for the post game discussion thread  
terptacular : 9/10/2023 9:53 pm : link
Yet?
RE: I never thought Jones was very good  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 9:53 pm : link
In comment 16198740 santacruzom said:
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At hitting guys going across the field in stride. We just saw it there on that pass to Hyatt.


$40 million QB’s should be able to do that with their eyes closed.
This  
mittenedman : 9/10/2023 9:53 pm : link
is literally the worst it possibly could’ve gone.

Every aspect of the team sucked.
UConn at their level  
Ike#88 : 9/10/2023 9:53 pm : link
is more competitive than the Giants. What an embarrassment.
I’ll say it again. Be proud.  
State Your Name : 9/10/2023 9:53 pm : link
Whatever your job is. You don’t suck at it as much as the Giants do. You don’t talk shit as much as the Giants do. You don’t say people don’t believe in you as much of Giants do. And most importantly, you don’t steal $5000 a year from your season ticket holders like the Giants too. Be proud of yourself.
And you are a good person. bye-bye
This feels Judge year 2 like  
Paulie Walnuts : 9/10/2023 9:53 pm : link
Wtf
RE: This is 100% on the coaches.  
rocco8112 : 9/10/2023 9:53 pm : link
In comment 16198739 bradshaw44 said:
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And I think it’s bad enough this team may not recover. This is the most. Epic loss (so far) by this team I can remember. And it always happens in prime time. And it always happens against the fucking cowboys.

Daboll and Schoen must have bought into their own hype. And boy do I hope they come back and win to make me look stupid. I’m begging and praying for it. I’ll happily eat crow


This team has been a rudderless
Joke since Tom Coughlin walked out that door. It’s a fact. Yea we win here and there. But we are a fucking joke. JOKE


There is basically a zero percent chance the Giants come back.


Hopefully they keep the Cowboys under 40.
What….  
thrunthrublue : 9/10/2023 9:53 pm : link
Is the pre season for?
RE: Daboll from coach of the year to on the hot seat....  
LittleBlue : 9/10/2023 9:53 pm : link
In comment 16198742 fredgbrown said:
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team is not ready to play football.


Of course this sounds hyperbolic, but it isn’t wrong.

I expect a very very different team to come out and play starting as soon as next week. But if you have this standard of play for the full year? Yeah daboll should be gone.
Nice to see Simms, Hoss and Eli together at least.  
bceagle05 : 9/10/2023 9:53 pm : link
.
RE: RE: Pretty simple  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 9:54 pm : link
In comment 16198750 Sean said:
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In comment 16198711 Lines of Scrimmage said:


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Young and Parcells determined your OL and overall LOS dictates games.

Tom Coughlin understood this and made it priority number one and returned the franchise that standard.

Reese/Ross destroyed the foundation of the franchise. Dave failed to turn that destruction around.

JS/BD welcome to the NFCE. Have you figured out it out yet?


Reese is seriously being brought up still? Come on.


Sad thing is the Reese OL was still better than this one. Go figure. Bobby Hart was better than any RT we've had since.
Giants were more competitive against Dallas last season  
dpinzow : 9/10/2023 9:54 pm : link
Believe it or not
RE: I never thought Jones was very good  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 9:54 pm : link
In comment 16198740 santacruzom said:
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At hitting guys going across the field in stride. We just saw it there on that pass to Hyatt.


You can tell he's not comfortable doing anything tonight.

I think he expects to get hit on handoffs at this point.
Last 2 games played  
Chris684 : 9/10/2023 9:54 pm : link
Down 28-0 to Eagles at half.

Down 26-0 to Cowboys at half.
That's the issue with Jones  
Sean : 9/10/2023 9:54 pm : link
He struggles against fast defenses. When the game gets fast, you see it with Jones. The OL has been bad, but it's not all that. He's made some very poor throws.
RE: RE: Hyatt  
fredgbrown : 9/10/2023 9:54 pm : link
In comment 16198754 bw in dc said:
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In comment 16198727 AcidTest said:


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with the drop, although the pass was behind him.

And then Jones is sacked again.



Not a great pass...
He has played WR his whole life got to catch that ball..no excuses...
RE: I never thought Jones was very good  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 9:55 pm : link
In comment 16198740 santacruzom said:
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At hitting guys going across the field in stride. We just saw it there on that pass to Hyatt.
I agree. His long pass is decent and sideline is ok but his timing is at best erratic to guys moving across the field
I guess now we will see how Daboll handles adversity  
RCPhoenix : 9/10/2023 9:55 pm : link
B/c he’s got it in spades now
Trade a running back  
NYPanos : 9/10/2023 9:55 pm : link
And get some real Ο-Line? Just saying. And about a qb, when things go wrong he gets lost and chokes.
Any news on  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 9:56 pm : link
Banks?
RE: This feels Judge year 2 like  
Sean : 9/10/2023 9:56 pm : link
In comment 16198763 Paulie Walnuts said:
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Wtf

Judge actually beat Dallas & Philly. *ducks*
RE: Last 2 games played  
JT039 : 9/10/2023 9:56 pm : link
In comment 16198774 Chris684 said:
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Down 28-0 to Eagles at half.

Down 26-0 to Cowboys at half.


Great post
Remember the Joe Judge  
mittenedman : 9/10/2023 9:56 pm : link
11 day fall from grace?

He went from our young Parcells to a pumpkin in 11 days.
RE: That's the issue with Jones  
RCPhoenix : 9/10/2023 9:56 pm : link
In comment 16198777 Sean said:
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He struggles against fast defenses. When the game gets fast, you see it with Jones. The OL has been bad, but it's not all that. He's made some very poor throws.


The OL has been horrid.
This team is bad..  
prdave73 : 9/10/2023 9:56 pm : link
Just terribly put together. No number #1 WR, worst offensive line in the league, and no pass rushers. lol.
RE: That's the issue with Jones  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 9:56 pm : link
In comment 16198777 Sean said:
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He struggles against fast defenses. When the game gets fast, you see it with Jones. The OL has been bad, but it's not all that. He's made some very poor throws.


Yeah the Oline hasn't been that bad...................
This team looks lost  
Rjanyg : 9/10/2023 9:56 pm : link
I can only hope they score a point tonight. I also hope they play better week 2. Can’t play much worse.
RE: Any news on  
BleedBlue : 9/10/2023 9:56 pm : link
In comment 16198786 SomeFan said:
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Banks?


Cramps is what Twitter is saying
...  
christian : 9/10/2023 9:57 pm : link
Sean, it's clearly Jerry Reese's fault the 7th overall pick, 5 years after he was fired, is getting his ass kicked.

Jerry Reese isn't only a 2 time championship, he's a mother f'n witch doctor.
I blame the NFL too for this. Opening up against Dallas is prime time  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 9/10/2023 9:57 pm : link
every year is really a disadvantage.
RE: That's the issue with Jones  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 9:57 pm : link
In comment 16198777 Sean said:
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He struggles against fast defenses. When the game gets fast, you see it with Jones. The OL has been bad, but it's not all that. He's made some very poor throws.


He definitely needs to overcome adversity. And take advantage of opportunities when available. But nothing is going right at this point. It's like falling out of airplane and the parachute won't open...
Except  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 9:57 pm : link
for Thomas the Ol is really bad, especially Neal. He clearly doesn't have the feet to play tackle, but Bredeson, Schmitz, and Glowinski were also bad. The OL will likely be a problem all season.

I'd like to see Ezeudu and McKethan in the second half, and although I can't believe I'm saying this, Peart. Neal should be benched.

Schoen improved the team speed everywhere except on the OL.

We also aren't generating any pass rush.

This game is still won in the trenches, and we are losing there on both sides of the ball.
Shurmur sucked both years  
Chris684 : 9/10/2023 9:57 pm : link
But McAdoo and Judge went backwards in year 2.

Daboll is going to have to get their attention after this one. If they happen to drop a game next week to the Cards it’s off to San Fran on short rest.
Btw  
mittenedman : 9/10/2023 9:57 pm : link
I know there’s no way of knowing now but DJ’s head got slammed into the turf on that first run. He looks terrible.
RE: RE: I never thought Jones was very good  
santacruzom : 9/10/2023 9:57 pm : link
In comment 16198780 SomeFan said:
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In comment 16198740 santacruzom said:


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At hitting guys going across the field in stride. We just saw it there on that pass to Hyatt.

I agree. His long pass is decent and sideline is ok but his timing is at best erratic to guys moving across the field


Which is unfortunate because the horizontal passing game sure seems like a Daboll staple.
RE: ????????????????  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 9:57 pm : link
In comment 16198737 MauiYankee said:
Quote:
Can this team beat a division rival?


This operation is going nowhere until they can beat Dallas and Philadelphia. What pisses me off is fucking Washington stumbles into wins every now and again vs those guys. With us it’s a 100% lead pipe lock loss.
RE: RE: RE: Hyatt  
bluefin : 9/10/2023 9:57 pm : link
In comment 16198779 fredgbrown said:
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In comment 16198754 bw in dc said:


Quote:


In comment 16198727 AcidTest said:


Quote:


with the drop, although the pass was behind him.

And then Jones is sacked again.



Not a great pass...

He has played WR his whole life got to catch that ball..no excuses...

Toney was lambasted for dropping a much harder ball that Hyatt’s drop
Jones has zero time, he's running from the minute he gets the snap  
PatersonPlank : 9/10/2023 9:58 pm : link
The crowd here is in disbelief
RE: RE: Any news on  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 9:58 pm : link
In comment 16198796 BleedBlue said:
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In comment 16198786 SomeFan said:


Quote:


Banks?



Cramps is what Twitter is saying
Thanks, only good news tonight
RE: RE: That's the issue with Jones  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 9:58 pm : link
In comment 16198790 RCPhoenix said:
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In comment 16198777 Sean said:


Quote:


He struggles against fast defenses. When the game gets fast, you see it with Jones. The OL has been bad, but it's not all that. He's made some very poor throws.



The OL has been horrid.


It has.

Doesn’t excuse a QB from awful decision making and turnovers. QBs can’t melt under adversity like Jones seems to do sometimes.

Jones doesn’t get absolved from this. He’s been terrible tonight too.
RE: RE: That's the issue with Jones  
Sean : 9/10/2023 9:58 pm : link
In comment 16198790 RCPhoenix said:
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In comment 16198777 Sean said:


Quote:


He struggles against fast defenses. When the game gets fast, you see it with Jones. The OL has been bad, but it's not all that. He's made some very poor throws.



The OL has been horrid.

Of course it has. But that doesn't excuse the awful pick which was thrown which led to a Dallas TD.
RE: Btw  
bluefin : 9/10/2023 9:58 pm : link
In comment 16198805 mittenedman said:
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I know there’s no way of knowing now but DJ’s head got slammed into the turf on that first run. He looks terrible.

Possible factor
Oh stop it  
HomerJones45 : 9/10/2023 9:58 pm : link
geez, it's one game and any team can have a bad game. You are never as bad as you look when you lose and never as good as you look when you win.

The only thing to keep an eye on is if the Eagles figured something out and the Cowboys picked up on it and other teams also pick up on it.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Hyatt  
BleedBlue : 9/10/2023 9:58 pm : link
In comment 16198809 bluefin said:
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In comment 16198779 fredgbrown said:


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In comment 16198754 bw in dc said:


Quote:


In comment 16198727 AcidTest said:


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with the drop, although the pass was behind him.

And then Jones is sacked again.



Not a great pass...

He has played WR his whole life got to catch that ball..no excuses...


Toney was lambasted for dropping a much harder ball that Hyatt’s drop


It’s a drop….

He is an nfl wr and it him in hands. It’s a drop…
the game is simple  
jmalls23 : 9/10/2023 9:59 pm : link
If your OL stinks your toys cannot be used. I have never seen a worse OL in a half.
RE: That's the issue with Jones  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 9:59 pm : link
In comment 16198777 Sean said:
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He struggles against fast defenses. When the game gets fast, you see it with Jones. The OL has been bad, but it's not all that. He's made some very poor throws.


Then Schoen had better be looking at the top college qb’s this fall. Jones, who is being paid like he’s the answer, isn’t.
RE: Jones has zero time, he's running from the minute he gets the snap  
NYPanos : 9/10/2023 9:59 pm : link
In comment 16198811 PatersonPlank said:
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The crowd here is in disbelief


How about the beautiful interception? Was that the fans fault?
Jets had similar draft capital  
Kanavis : 9/10/2023 9:59 pm : link
And came away with the offensive and defensive rookies of the year. We came up with a mediocre pash rusher and a non NFL tackle.
The only bright spot is,  
prdave73 : 9/10/2023 9:59 pm : link
Deonte Banks. The dude looks legit.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Hyatt  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 9:59 pm : link
In comment 16198819 BleedBlue said:
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It’s a drop….

He is an nfl wr and it him in hands. It’s a drop…


He dropped a bad pass.
RE: the game is simple  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 9:59 pm : link
In comment 16198821 jmalls23 said:
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If your OL stinks your toys cannot be used. I have never seen a worse OL in a half.


Yup.
This team must be cursed with OL  
beatrixkiddo : 9/10/2023 9:59 pm : link
No other explanation. Over a decade of just shit OL play. It’s a joke
Sure, Jones has had a terrible half,  
CT Charlie : 9/10/2023 10:00 pm : link
but I'm not going to read much into it. The pass protection is abysmal, the weather is bad, and he was allowed to play a total of what, three drives in the entire preseason?

RE: Booed off the field  
JoeSchoens11 : 9/10/2023 10:00 pm : link
In comment 16198738 The_Boss said:
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Good
I’m not sure this is what BD meant when he asked the fans to be loud
what happened to all the weapons?  
bc4life : 9/10/2023 10:00 pm : link
if the OLine is still this bad with 3 picks in 1st 2 rounds, whose fault is that?
We knew out O Line and Special Teams were suspect.  
Modzelewski : 9/10/2023 10:00 pm : link
But I didn’t think it was this bad.
I  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 10:01 pm : link
think Jones is rattled, which isn't surprising given that he's running for his life as soon as he touches the ball on every pass play. His OL is a sieve. He's desperate to make something happen as the QB and so is pressing.
RE: The only bright spot is,  
bluefin : 9/10/2023 10:01 pm : link
In comment 16198826 prdave73 said:
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Deonte Banks. The dude looks legit.

He came up limping after the sideline PBU
"Coach McCarthy, what adjustments did you make at Halftime?"  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 10:01 pm : link
"I decided to link my headset to McDonald's and Dak listened to a comedy podcast"
RE: Oh stop it  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 10:01 pm : link
In comment 16198818 HomerJones45 said:
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geez, it's one game and any team can have a bad game. You are never as bad as you look when you lose and never as good as you look when you win.

The only thing to keep an eye on is if the Eagles figured something out and the Cowboys picked up on it and other teams also pick up on it.


Commanders have a hellish front 7 on defense too. Giants have an ugly talent discrepancy in their own division.
RE: the game is simple  
wonderback : 9/10/2023 10:01 pm : link
In comment 16198821 jmalls23 said:
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If your OL stinks your toys cannot be used. I have never seen a worse OL in a half.


Plus a million!
Smart, Tough, Dependable  
US1 Giants : 9/10/2023 10:01 pm : link
total failure
RE: RE: RE: That's the issue with Jones  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 10:01 pm : link
In comment 16198814 Sammo85 said:
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In comment 16198790 RCPhoenix said:


Quote:


In comment 16198777 Sean said:


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He struggles against fast defenses. When the game gets fast, you see it with Jones. The OL has been bad, but it's not all that. He's made some very poor throws.



The OL has been horrid.



It has.

Doesn’t excuse a QB from awful decision making and turnovers. QBs can’t melt under adversity like Jones seems to do sometimes.

Jones doesn’t get absolved from this. He’s been terrible tonight too.


Are we really pinning the first INT on Jones? Barkley wasn't touched by God, he was touched by the top of a helmet.
RE: RE: Any news on  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 10:01 pm : link
In comment 16198796 BleedBlue said:
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In comment 16198786 SomeFan said:


Quote:


Banks?



Cramps is what Twitter is saying


He's not the only one looking like he's going through a period
RE: RE: Oh stop it  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 10:01 pm : link
In comment 16198840 Sammo85 said:
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In comment 16198818 HomerJones45 said:


Quote:


geez, it's one game and any team can have a bad game. You are never as bad as you look when you lose and never as good as you look when you win.

The only thing to keep an eye on is if the Eagles figured something out and the Cowboys picked up on it and other teams also pick up on it.



Commanders have a hellish front 7 on defense too. Giants have an ugly talent discrepancy in their own division.


Honestly, the only reason we beat the Commanders is because we have their number. On paper they should gouge us a new one with that line.
RE: Last 2 games played  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 9/10/2023 10:02 pm : link
In comment 16198774 Chris684 said:
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Down 28-0 to Eagles at half.

Down 26-0 to Cowboys at half.


True..excellent point
RE: I  
wonderback : 9/10/2023 10:02 pm : link
In comment 16198837 AcidTest said:
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think Jones is rattled, which isn't surprising given that he's running for his life as soon as he touches the ball on every pass play. His OL is a sieve. He's desperate to make something happen as the QB and so is pressing.


No kidding.
Thunderstruck27  
Sean : 9/10/2023 10:02 pm : link
Come on. That first INT clearly wasn't on Jones. It was the 2nd one. That was a horrific decision. That should be clear. The ensuing drive led to a Dallas TD.
RE: RE: That's the issue with Jones  
PetesHereNow : 9/10/2023 10:03 pm : link
In comment 16198823 The_Boss said:
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In comment 16198777 Sean said:


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He struggles against fast defenses. When the game gets fast, you see it with Jones. The OL has been bad, but it's not all that. He's made some very poor throws.



Then Schoen had better be looking at the top college qb’s this fall. Jones, who is being paid like he’s the answer, isn’t.


No QB in the world can succeed with what we’re seeing from the offensive line tonight.
RE: RE: the game is simple  
Larry in Pencilvania : 9/10/2023 10:03 pm : link
In comment 16198841 wonderback said:
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In comment 16198821 jmalls23 said:


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If your OL stinks your toys cannot be used. I have never seen a worse OL in a half.



Plus a million!


Pick any Giants oline from 2013 on and that line fits
Talk is cheap.  
State Your Name : 9/10/2023 10:03 pm : link
Play the game.
I don’t think you can overstate  
dlauster : 9/10/2023 10:03 pm : link
How confident Dallas and Philly feel when they play us. They know they own us.
Next week  
rocco8112 : 9/10/2023 10:03 pm : link
Is a must win
Talking is cheap  
State Your Name : 9/10/2023 10:03 pm : link
Play the game
RE: This team must be cursed with OL  
Breeze_94 : 9/10/2023 10:03 pm : link
In comment 16198830 beatrixkiddo said:
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No other explanation. Over a decade of just shit OL play. It’s a joke


I don't get how other teams can run out 2nd and 3rd stringers and be competent, while Giants have thier starting unit - with guys they picked early in the draft -- and Jones can't even hit his back foot in his drop before he has to take off. Miami played w/o their LT today and had over 500 yards of offense.
...  
christian : 9/10/2023 10:04 pm : link
No chance in hell is that first pick on Jones. But that second pick is 100% on him.
Still a lot of holes  
lax counsel : 9/10/2023 10:04 pm : link
Talent has improved but really missing key pieces. Still no pass rush, most of the ol sucks, no true #1 receiver. Though Jones isn’t entirely at fault, he once again also hasn’t done enough to overcome less than ideal play around him. He really struggles against good defenses and doesn’t see the whole field.

Bottom line is year after year it seems like we are always having the same discussions about deficiencies in the positions that win in this league.
That Waller is really making a difference in the offense!!  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 9/10/2023 10:04 pm : link
Sarcasm off. Boy were we duped.
RE: Thunderstruck27  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 10:04 pm : link
In comment 16198850 Sean said:
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Come on. That first INT clearly wasn't on Jones. It was the 2nd one. That was a horrific decision. That should be clear. The ensuing drive led to a Dallas TD.


Absolutely. That second one was textbook Jones when he starts feeling a game getting away...which didn't happen much last season.
People on here saying turnoverS like the guy is handing them the ball
I’m sure this game is making the NFL  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 10:04 pm : link
ecstatic that we have a lot of nationally televised games this year.
RE: RE: RE: Hyatt  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/10/2023 10:04 pm : link
In comment 16198779 fredgbrown said:
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In comment 16198727 AcidTest said:


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with the drop, although the pass was behind him.

And then Jones is sacked again.



Not a great pass...

He has played WR his whole life got to catch that ball..no excuses...

By that same fucking logic, Jones has played QB his whole life, he's got to get that ball to the front of the receiver.
RE: I  
bluefin : 9/10/2023 10:04 pm : link
In comment 16198837 AcidTest said:
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think Jones is rattled, which isn't surprising given that he's running for his life as soon as he touches the ball on every pass play. His OL is a sieve. He's desperate to make something happen as the QB and so is pressing.

This. Let him press, he might work something out that he can use in the future being that he’s saddled with this line.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/10/2023 10:04 pm : link
Dabs didn’t have this team nearly prepared for tonight.
I do not pin...  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 10:04 pm : link
the "fake" interception with Barkley on Jones. He threw a decent ball, but the timing of the hit was perfect, and SB couldn't hang on.

I think it's really a play where the defense deserves credit for a better play.
RE: RE: Btw  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 10:05 pm : link
In comment 16198816 bluefin said:
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In comment 16198805 mittenedman said:


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I know there’s no way of knowing now but DJ’s head got slammed into the turf on that first run. He looks terrible.


Possible factor


Good point.
What did our scouts miss on Neal?  
UberAlias : 9/10/2023 10:05 pm : link
Was there no sign of this in college?
 
ryanmkeane : 9/10/2023 10:05 pm : link
Banks isn’t out there
 
christian : 9/10/2023 10:05 pm : link
That was a drop, but that was a bad throw to Hyatt. He threw it behind Campbell as well.
RE: Still a lot of holes  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 10:05 pm : link
In comment 16198860 lax counsel said:
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Talent has improved but really missing key pieces. Still no pass rush, most of the ol sucks, no true #1 receiver. Though Jones isn’t entirely at fault, he once again also hasn’t done enough to overcome less than ideal play around him. He really struggles against good defenses and doesn’t see the whole field.

Bottom line is year after year it seems like we are always having the same discussions about deficiencies in the positions that win in this league.
Can’t argue with anything you wrote. It is spot-on.
1/2 crowd  
Boss 63 : 9/10/2023 10:06 pm : link
left
RE: the game is simple  
Cyrus the Great : 9/10/2023 10:06 pm : link
In comment 16198821 jmalls23 said:
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If your OL stinks your toys cannot be used. I have never seen a worse OL in a half.


This. It doesn't matter how many times you change the coach or the quarterback or the receivers, if you have one of the worst offensive lines in the league, you are going to be a bad team.
Howard Cross: game is not out of control yet  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 10:06 pm : link
😆😆

Company man..
Brian Daboll is Kotiting it...  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 10:06 pm : link
He should McKay it.

"What do you think of your team's execution?"

"I'm in favor of it."
Time to worry about the 2022 first round  
moespree : 9/10/2023 10:06 pm : link
Neal and Thibs...not good.

You simply cannot miss when you have the number 5 and 7 pick. Missing on one that high is bad enough, but if you miss on both...
RE: What did our scouts miss on Neal?  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 10:06 pm : link
In comment 16198869 UberAlias said:
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Was there no sign of this in college?


I loved the Neal pick. I was wrong.
RE: RE: RE: RE: That's the issue with Jones  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 10:06 pm : link
In comment 16198844 Thunderstruck27 said:
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In comment 16198814 Sammo85 said:


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In comment 16198790 RCPhoenix said:


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In comment 16198777 Sean said:


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He struggles against fast defenses. When the game gets fast, you see it with Jones. The OL has been bad, but it's not all that. He's made some very poor throws.



The OL has been horrid.



It has.

Doesn’t excuse a QB from awful decision making and turnovers. QBs can’t melt under adversity like Jones seems to do sometimes.

Jones doesn’t get absolved from this. He’s been terrible tonight too.



Are we really pinning the first INT on Jones? Barkley wasn't touched by God, he was touched by the top of a helmet.


Of course not. Don’t be so dense.

But that 2nd pick was the knife into the jugular of this team for the night. Jones followed it up next two series with what looked like panic run audibles. Kafka also gets blame. When your OL is terrible and QB rattled, have to have better playbook and audible options than designed runs a fast DL can eat up with ease.
No Tae Banks  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 10:06 pm : link
Hopefully it's just precautionary
Let's be honest...  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 10:06 pm : link
Jones is lucky he didn't have another INT after the easy drop by Hooker.
The  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 10:06 pm : link
second INT was on Jones, but I still think he's the least of our offensive problems tonight.
RE: RE: What did our scouts miss on Neal?  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 10:07 pm : link
In comment 16198878 Thunderstruck27 said:
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Was there no sign of this in college?



I loved the Neal pick. I was wrong.


So did I and so was I
Neal was pretty much  
santacruzom : 9/10/2023 10:07 pm : link
Universally regarded as a top ten pick. No GM would have been criticized for taking him at 7.
The yapping by Collinsworth  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 10:07 pm : link
is nerve-wracking
Jones has been late delivering the ball all night  
allstarjim : 9/10/2023 10:07 pm : link
The first INT no exception. Was it his "fault"? No. Was it a factor in the play? Yes.
Jones is Playing Like a Rookie  
Jeffrey : 9/10/2023 10:07 pm : link
He forgot what got him the big contract was playing a smart game manager role. He’s trying to make plays instead playing within his limits. Not to excuse the incredibly poor OL and what appears to be a major bust at RT.
RE:  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 10:08 pm : link
In comment 16198839 Anakim said:
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"I decided to link my headset to McDonald's and Dak listened to a comedy podcast"


lol
Criticizing Daniel Jones  
M.S. : 9/10/2023 10:08 pm : link

With zero pass protection is ridiculous.

As for that second INT, he was desperate, running for his life and trying to make something happen.
Halftime in the locker room:  
thrunthrublue : 9/10/2023 10:08 pm : link
"This is a huge shit sandwich and we're all gonna have to take a bite"

"Sir, does this mean that Anne Margaret is not coming?"

RE: The  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 10:08 pm : link
In comment 16198882 AcidTest said:
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second INT was on Jones, but I still think he's the least of our offensive problems tonight.


Well we have ZERO points so far.
RE: No Tae Banks  
NorcalNYG : 9/10/2023 10:08 pm : link
In comment 16198880 Anakim said:
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Hopefully it's just precautionary


Looked like a leg muscle strain maybe hammy woooohooo
Picking up where we left off  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 10:08 pm : link
.
RE: The  
santacruzom : 9/10/2023 10:08 pm : link
In comment 16198882 AcidTest said:
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second INT was on Jones, but I still think he's the least of our offensive problems tonight.


I don't know about THE least...
33-0  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 10:09 pm : link
Coming up fast.
RE: The  
chuckydee9 : 9/10/2023 10:09 pm : link
In comment 16198882 AcidTest said:
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second INT was on Jones, but I still think he's the least of our offensive problems tonight.


What about the bad passes that were behind the receivers?
Aaaand  
46and2Blue : 9/10/2023 10:09 pm : link
We can add shorty run defense
Who saw the run D being poor?  
j_rud : 9/10/2023 10:09 pm : link
.
Let's face it the Giants don't want to be here  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 10:09 pm : link
Tonight
RE: Criticizing Daniel Jones  
Matt M. : 9/10/2023 10:09 pm : link
In comment 16198890 M.S. said:
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With zero pass protection is ridiculous.

As for that second INT, he was desperate, running for his life and trying to make something happen.
And it was a TERRIBLE decision. He threw into 3 defenders, all of whom were in better position than his receiver.
And now Banks really appears hurt  
mittenedman : 9/10/2023 10:09 pm : link
and the run D still sucks.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/10/2023 10:09 pm : link
This team better win next Sunday or things are going to get ugly. And after tonight, I have no faith they win vs. Arizona.
Okereke  
JT039 : 9/10/2023 10:10 pm : link
0 tackles
This team has to continue to draft better.  
NY-Fan : 9/10/2023 10:10 pm : link
They can’t always try to patch the holes with free agents. There are to many teams in this league that draft a Thibodeaux and Neal and get an immediate stud. They may develop into that but there are many teams in this league where that happens immediately.
RE: Neal was pretty much  
M.S. : 9/10/2023 10:10 pm : link
In comment 16198885 santacruzom said:
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Universally regarded as a top ten pick. No GM would have been criticized for taking him at 7.

Sometimes the entire league mis-evaluates a college prospect. It happens. But it’s still just one game into the new season and Evan Neal can still improve.
I never turn off Giant games  
Sean : 9/10/2023 10:10 pm : link
But I'm close. The last two games have been such reality checks. This team was also 3-6-1 to end the season last year.
RE: …  
Johnny5 : 9/10/2023 10:10 pm : link
In comment 16198871 christian said:
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That was a drop, but that was a bad throw to Hyatt. He threw it behind Campbell as well.

Jones having a bad night. He is sucking wind for sure. But, He is rattled and I don't blame him. This OL is fucking putrid again. I knew this OL would be our downfall this year. So tired of it. And Daboll should have played the starters more in preseason. They are clearly not even close to ready.
RE: RE: The  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 10:10 pm : link
In comment 16198897 chuckydee9 said:
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In comment 16198882 AcidTest said:


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second INT was on Jones, but I still think he's the least of our offensive problems tonight.



What about the bad passes that were behind the receivers?


The ones that hit them in the hands?
RE: Halftime in the locker room:  
Greg from LI : 9/10/2023 10:10 pm : link
In comment 16198891 thrunthrublue said:
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"This is a huge shit sandwich and we're all gonna have to take a bite"

"Sir, does this mean that Anne Margaret is not coming?"


I would be in favor of sending the entire organization to Phu Bai. Captain Januarys gonna need all his people.
Banks is out with cramps  
UberAlias : 9/10/2023 10:10 pm : link
Expected to return
RE: Criticizing Daniel Jones  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 10:10 pm : link
In comment 16198890 M.S. said:
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With zero pass protection is ridiculous.

As for that second INT, he was desperate, running for his life and trying to make something happen.


Agreed.
if cowboys TE can catch its would be 40-0  
amindan54 : 9/10/2023 10:10 pm : link
lolol

they drop everything
RE: Criticizing Daniel Jones  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 10:10 pm : link
In comment 16198890 M.S. said:
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With zero pass protection is ridiculous.

As for that second INT, he was desperate, running for his life and trying to make something happen.


It was still an absolute awful decision and throw.
One bright spot  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 10:10 pm : link
The Dallas TEs have not killed us tonight! Yippee!
just put the 2nd string in on both sides of ball. Concede the game.  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 9/10/2023 10:11 pm : link
it's stupid to keep playing starters these guys were not prepared tonight.
This game is already lost. Similar to the playoff game in Philly at  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 10:11 pm : link
halftime down 4 scores. The difference here is that the giants are at home and need to show some pride. If Dallas scores an opening 2nd half TD, it's quitting time for these guys.
RE: Banks is out with cramps  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 10:11 pm : link
In comment 16198911 UberAlias said:
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Expected to return


Doesn’t matter
RE: Who saw the run D being poor?  
WillVAB : 9/10/2023 10:11 pm : link
In comment 16198899 j_rud said:
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Dallas owns the LoS on both sides.
Thibodeaux is giving poor effort tonight  
NY-Fan : 9/10/2023 10:11 pm : link
Really disappointing.
Of course  
mittenedman : 9/10/2023 10:11 pm : link
Perfect screen pass vs the blitz
The coaching needs to take blame for tonight too  
moespree : 9/10/2023 10:11 pm : link
Knew they would be playing Dallas since May and look completely unprepared for the game.

The mentality of the team is bothering me too. It's simply not there. It's flat and I don't understand how that is possible in an opening primetime game against a rival like the Cowboys.
RE: RE: No Tae Banks  
UberAlias : 9/10/2023 10:12 pm : link
In comment 16198893 NorcalNYG said:
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In comment 16198880 Anakim said:


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Hopefully it's just precautionary



Looked like a leg muscle strain maybe hammy woooohooo
cramps
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/10/2023 10:12 pm : link
Again, the type of game that makes me ? everyone in the organization. It is that pathetic.
RE: Criticizing Daniel Jones  
lax counsel : 9/10/2023 10:12 pm : link
In comment 16198890 M.S. said:
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With zero pass protection is ridiculous.

As for that second INT, he was desperate, running for his life and trying to make something happen.


No doubt he’s under duress but as it has been against the better teams in this league, he doesnt do much to overcome or elevate the play around him and crumbles with everyone else. Unfortunately, you can’t pay big bucks for a qb like that in this league. I think at this point we know what Jones is, he can be very god against mediocre or bad defenses, but really struggles against quality teams in this league. This is now back to back putrid starts against division opponents. It’s concerning whether or not you want to admit it.
Walks in.  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 10:12 pm : link
32-0
mckinney, adoree, leo, simmons  
amindan54 : 9/10/2023 10:12 pm : link
just not enough impact plays to get big contract.....



invisbileeeeeeee
RE: What did our scouts miss on Neal?  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 10:12 pm : link
In comment 16198869 UberAlias said:
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Was there no sign of this in college?


The fear I have is that Schoen was a rookie GM was still working with DG's leftover scouts as he couldn't fire everybody.
RE: RE: Criticizing Daniel Jones  
chuckydee9 : 9/10/2023 10:12 pm : link
In comment 16198912 AcidTest said:
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In comment 16198890 M.S. said:


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With zero pass protection is ridiculous.

As for that second INT, he was desperate, running for his life and trying to make something happen.



Agreed.


There was also that interception that hooker dropped.. And other bad passes..
Worse than 95 kids  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 10:12 pm : link
Much worse.
New day, same Mara Special  
ghost718 : 9/10/2023 10:12 pm : link
Shitburger with a Medium Pepsi
RE: The coaching needs to take blame for tonight too  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 10:12 pm : link
In comment 16198922 moespree said:
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Knew they would be playing Dallas since May and look completely unprepared for the game.

The mentality of the team is bothering me too. It's simply not there. It's flat and I don't understand how that is possible in an opening primetime game against a rival like the Cowboys.


Yeah, that's the more concerning thing.
we have not closed the talent gap  
amindan54 : 9/10/2023 10:12 pm : link
THERES JAGS LIKE WARD AND MCCLOUD OUT THERERE LOLOLOLOL
This is one of those games where it shouldn't count as one loss  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 10:12 pm : link
There should be a rule
50 for Dallas?  
rocco8112 : 9/10/2023 10:13 pm : link
Likely up to them if they keep the pedal down to or not.
Walks in . Yep this defense is smart tough and  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 10:13 pm : link
Dependable
Look at the Bengals today  
eric2425ny : 9/10/2023 10:13 pm : link
The reduced preseason and inability to run vigorous practices is hurting the league. Some teams seem to come out better than others, but the last few years when you look across the league you see a lot of rust the first 2-3 weeks.
RE: RE: RE: No Tae Banks  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 9/10/2023 10:13 pm : link
In comment 16198923 UberAlias said:
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In comment 16198893 NorcalNYG said:


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In comment 16198880 Anakim said:


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Hopefully it's just precautionary



Looked like a leg muscle strain maybe hammy woooohooo

cramps


it can't be cramps,he would be in there if it were cramps
Disgraceful  
Devour the Day : 9/10/2023 10:13 pm : link
We waited 7 months for this. Good lord.
This is worse than a bad day under Joey Judge.
 
ryanmkeane : 9/10/2023 10:13 pm : link
Jones has about 1 second to throw on every snap. None of this is on him. Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot and doesn’t understand how football works.
all the additions  
bc4life : 9/10/2023 10:13 pm : link
and they're less competitive than last year. wtaf?
RE: RE: Banks is out with cramps  
UberAlias : 9/10/2023 10:13 pm : link
In comment 16198918 The_Boss said:
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In comment 16198911 UberAlias said:


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Expected to return



Doesn’t matter
your right. Losing him fit the year would be no big deal.
Just wait until SF on a short week  
Sean : 9/10/2023 10:13 pm : link
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Good forced fumble by Okereke at least.  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 10:13 pm : link
It doesn't matter anymore now that Dallas has scored another TD, but at least that was something. This one's beyond over. Welcome to 1995 embarrassment territory on MNF on Opening Night.
Dallas is going to put up 50 tonight  
Chris684 : 9/10/2023 10:13 pm : link
…..
Has a fumble ever gone our way?  
yalebowl : 9/10/2023 10:13 pm : link
Whether it’s the opponent’s or our fumble!
RE: Play the 1s in the preseason  
MauiYankee : 9/10/2023 10:13 pm : link
In comment 16198704 State Your Name said:
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Fucking pussies! Fuck you Joe Shoen you pretty boy fag piece of shit. Ban me .I don’t give a shit. I’ll just rejoin with a dupe again like I did the last six time's. I spend my fucking blood money on this! Fuck you Giants! Fuck you! Fuck you! Fuck you! Fuck you! Fuck you! Have fun banning me mods. Fuck you. Fuck you too. Fuck this whole site. Fuck the New York Giants. Fuck them forever. Fuck the faggot piece of shit owner John Mara. Fuck everybody! I’m out.

Why would they ban YOU coach DaBoll?



But before I go. Forever. Fuck the Cowboys. Fuck them forever. One day we will beat them. One day. And I will be there. I will be there instead of all you fucking faggots sitting on your mother‘s couches. Fuck you too.
if we are going to suck  
amindan54 : 9/10/2023 10:14 pm : link
play ezedeu and mckethan....


Better win next week  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 10:14 pm : link
Or else we’ll be in a familiar spot: season over by Columbus Day and we’re talking draft..nobody wants that shit again..
RE: RE: Criticizing Daniel Jones  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 10:14 pm : link
In comment 16198925 lax counsel said:
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In comment 16198890 M.S. said:


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With zero pass protection is ridiculous.

As for that second INT, he was desperate, running for his life and trying to make something happen.



No doubt he’s under duress but as it has been against the better teams in this league, he doesnt do much to overcome or elevate the play around him and crumbles with everyone else. Unfortunately, you can’t pay big bucks for a qb like that in this league. I think at this point we know what Jones is, he can be very god against mediocre or bad defenses, but really struggles against quality teams in this league. This is now back to back putrid starts against division opponents. It’s concerning whether or not you want to admit it.


Exactly. Can't wait to pick up Pat Mahomes off the waiver wire. He couldn't even elevate Toney
RE: Halftime in the locker room:  
bluefin : 9/10/2023 10:14 pm : link
In comment 16198891 thrunthrublue said:
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"This is a huge shit sandwich and we're all gonna have to take a bite"

"Sir, does this mean that Anne Margaret is not coming?"

RE: One bright spot  
chuckydee9 : 9/10/2023 10:14 pm : link
In comment 16198915 SomeFan said:
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The Dallas TEs have not killed us tonight! Yippee!


Good point.. i missed that..
Giants  
bc4life : 9/10/2023 10:14 pm : link
worst loss on opening day of 2023 season.
RE: we have not closed the talent gap  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 10:14 pm : link
In comment 16198934 amindan54 said:
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THERES JAGS LIKE WARD AND MCCLOUD OUT THERERE LOLOLOLOL


Every team has JAGs out there in spots. The problem is we have key units like the OL where JAGs would actually be an improvement. Give this team an OL of 5 JAGs and this would be a different game.
RE: Of course  
Poktown Pete : 9/10/2023 10:14 pm : link
In comment 16198921 mittenedman said:
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Perfect screen pass vs the blitz


Why is the screen pass not in our playbook?
Can't wait for the press conferences  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 10:14 pm : link
and they ll all talk about blah blah blah
RE: Has a fumble ever gone our way?  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 10:14 pm : link
In comment 16198947 yalebowl said:
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Whether it’s the opponent’s or our fumble!


I remember Tim Carter recovering a fumble in the Endzone for us. That was...cool.
RE: RE: …  
christian : 9/10/2023 10:14 pm : link
In comment 16198908 Johnny5 said:
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Jones having a bad night. He is sucking wind for sure. But, He is rattled and I don't blame him. This OL is fucking putrid again. I knew this OL would be our downfall this year. So tired of it. And Daboll should have played the starters more in preseason. They are clearly not even close to ready.


Jones got 80M+ dollars because he was smart and ultra-accurate with the ball last year.

It's not too much to expect him to do what he did last year.

The line was putrid last year and Jones kept his head above water. He's got to do it again.
RE: Better win next week  
rocco8112 : 9/10/2023 10:14 pm : link
In comment 16198950 The_Boss said:
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Or else we’ll be in a familiar spot: season over by Columbus Day and we’re talking draft..nobody wants that shit again..


Next week is a must win.

Thursday night against the miners to avoid 0 and 3. Not good place to be.
RE: …  
Sean : 9/10/2023 10:15 pm : link
In comment 16198941 ryanmkeane said:
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Jones has about 1 second to throw on every snap. None of this is on him. Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot and doesn’t understand how football works.

These posts are so ridiculous. The 2nd pick was on Jones. Because the OL sucks it allows him to make unforced errors? That is such bullshit.
RE: Just wait until SF on a short week  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 10:15 pm : link
In comment 16198944 Sean said:
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Don't remind the forum. That's gonna be a beat down against that defensive front. People will see soon why fans wanted to play Minnesota in the playoffs and not Frisco.
RE: Let's face it the Giants don't want to be here  
mittenedman : 9/10/2023 10:15 pm : link
In comment 16198900 Blue21 said:
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Tonight


Just like the Playoff game.

It’s a disturbing trend.

These lopsided blowouts are more than talent.
RE: Better win next week  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 10:15 pm : link
In comment 16198950 The_Boss said:
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Or else we’ll be in a familiar spot: season over by Columbus Day and we’re talking draft..nobody wants that shit again..


If that happens, Schoen and Daboll would probably both be on the hot seat for 2024.
RE: all the additions  
prdave73 : 9/10/2023 10:15 pm : link
In comment 16198942 bc4life said:
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and they're less competitive than last year. wtaf?


I know it doesn't make much sense. The on;y thing I can think of is, you can't make it in the NFL without an Oline, and the Giants just ignored it for to long.
At  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 10:15 pm : link
this point, I'd expect effort to be lacking. Everyone just wants the game to be over and not get hurt. We completely embarrassed.

Like everyone else, I just don't understand why after 10 plus years we still don't even have a decent OL. Other teams rebuild their OL in a few years, but for us, the task is apparently impossible.
why doesn't Jones have pass protection?  
bc4life : 9/10/2023 10:15 pm : link
Is it Bobby Johnson? Joe Schoen's eye for talent?
RE: Look at the Bengals today  
AZ Blue : 9/10/2023 10:15 pm : link
In comment 16198938 eric2425ny said:
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The reduced preseason and inability to run vigorous practices is hurting the league. Some teams seem to come out better than others, but the last few years when you look across the league you see a lot of rust the first 2-3 weeks.


This is how I’m trying to look at it. Week 1, weird shit happens
RE: RE: What did our scouts miss on Neal?  
KDavies : 9/10/2023 10:15 pm : link
In comment 16198928 FStubbs said:
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In comment 16198869 UberAlias said:


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Was there no sign of this in college?



The fear I have is that Schoen was a rookie GM was still working with DG's leftover scouts as he couldn't fire everybody.


Lol. Schoen was relying on the work of a bad GM who was canned, while not doing his own work? If true, he should be fired immediately, but that’s a ridiculous theory
RE: RE: RE: Criticizing Daniel Jones  
NYPanos : 9/10/2023 10:15 pm : link
In comment 16198929 chuckydee9 said:
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In comment 16198912 AcidTest said:


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In comment 16198890 M.S. said:


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With zero pass protection is ridiculous.

As for that second INT, he was desperate, running for his life and trying to make something happen.



Agreed.



There was also that interception that hooker dropped.. And other bad passes..


Maybe at some point we get him an OLine so we can see if he is an NFL qb. Sorry, might not be his fault but he is still a mediocre qb. Do you believe you win championships with him? Anyway. It’s not the time.
RE: …  
dlauster : 9/10/2023 10:16 pm : link
In comment 16198924 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Again, the type of game that makes me ? everyone in the organization. It is that pathetic.


We do lose spectacularly dont we?
Can't believe how much I looked forward to this.  
j_rud : 9/10/2023 10:16 pm : link
Unprepared and outcoached, which I never thought I'd be saying.
another  
thrunthrublue : 9/10/2023 10:16 pm : link
George Young moment........please.
Wondering???????  
MauiYankee : 9/10/2023 10:16 pm : link
is it a lack of talent?
or
Is it a lack of coaching?
Which division opponent can this team beat?
This is the worst game I have seen in a while. They are getting  
ThomasG : 9/10/2023 10:16 pm : link
beat at every phase of the game.

We can’t even attempt a FG without looking bad.

RE: …  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/10/2023 10:16 pm : link
In comment 16198941 ryanmkeane said:
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Jones has about 1 second to throw on every snap. None of this is on him. Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot and doesn’t understand how football works.

Speaking of idiots who don't understand how football works, what's your take on Evan Neal tonight?
It can only get worse.....  
thrunthrublue : 9/10/2023 10:16 pm : link
If the jets win tomorrow....
Is Okereke playing?  
Larry in Pencilvania : 9/10/2023 10:17 pm : link
?
prdave  
bc4life : 9/10/2023 10:17 pm : link
ignored it? 2 1st round tackles and A 2ND round center.

and this defense looks as porous as last year.
RE: Has a fumble ever gone our way?  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 10:17 pm : link
In comment 16198947 yalebowl said:
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Whether it’s the opponent’s or our fumble!
Not since the NFC championship game against SanFran in the 1990 season.
not for nothing  
bigblue18 : 9/10/2023 10:17 pm : link
take jones, waller out of this game
This rain ain't helping.  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 10:17 pm : link
Dallas's front 7 can tee off now. I'd be licking my chops if I were those guys. How much longer until Daboll puts Taylor in for DJ?
RE: RE: RE: What did our scouts miss on Neal?  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 10:17 pm : link
In comment 16198969 KDavies said:
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In comment 16198928 FStubbs said:


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In comment 16198869 UberAlias said:


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Was there no sign of this in college?



The fear I have is that Schoen was a rookie GM was still working with DG's leftover scouts as he couldn't fire everybody.



Lol. Schoen was relying on the work of a bad GM who was canned, while not doing his own work? If true, he should be fired immediately, but that’s a ridiculous theory


He wasn't working with DG's work, but he was working with a lot of DG's scouts. You can't exactly scout college games if you're hired in January and it's too late to literally fire everybody.

It's why you often see scouts let go AFTER drafts.
And it continues  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 10:17 pm : link
.
On a lighter note...  
56GiantsUK : 9/10/2023 10:18 pm : link
Why don't they just start at the 20 on offense, save all this through the endzone boredom..


Going for it  
j_rud : 9/10/2023 10:18 pm : link
Hey, lose boldly
im all for daniel jones running but this is getting ridiculous  
amindan54 : 9/10/2023 10:18 pm : link
stop
People  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 10:18 pm : link
keep talking about OL, but I have major concerns with our secondary and coverage on defense holding up. If Ojulari and Thibs don’t sustain better one on one pressures so Wink doesn’t blitz like crazy all the time, this defense won’t holdup.
Some of these plays  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 10:18 pm : link
are reeking of Victory Formation moments.
.  
Banks : 9/10/2023 10:18 pm : link
of course parsons makes the stop
someone check to see  
thrunthrublue : 9/10/2023 10:18 pm : link
if Kafka passed out two minutes into the game?
We should sit Jones on the bench.  
ThomasG : 9/10/2023 10:18 pm : link
He’s done tonight and only going to get hurt.
Getting year two Joe Judge vibes  
beatrixkiddo : 9/10/2023 10:18 pm : link
Team looks unprepared and like they don’t care. Hope I’m wrong
This is the most disappointing and most embarrassing game  
CaLLaHaN : 9/10/2023 10:18 pm : link
I have ever seen the giants play.

They need to get #73 off the TV.
Daniel Jones needs to pay his fucking contract back. This is just embarrassing. Going to be another LONG season 0-4 vs eagles and cowboys easily.
Complere  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 10:18 pm : link
Whiff by bredesen
RE: RE: Better win next week  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 10:19 pm : link
In comment 16198960 rocco8112 said:
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In comment 16198950 The_Boss said:


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Or else we’ll be in a familiar spot: season over by Columbus Day and we’re talking draft..nobody wants that shit again..



Next week is a must win.

Thursday night against the miners to avoid 0 and 3. Not good place to be.


This is why I said must win. That SF game is about as lock of a sure L as there is on the schedule. We lose next week it’s over. Still have 3 losses beyond that with Dallas/Philly.
RE: People  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 10:19 pm : link
In comment 16198988 Sammo85 said:
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keep talking about OL, but I have major concerns with our secondary and coverage on defense holding up. If Ojulari and Thibs don’t sustain better one on one pressures so Wink doesn’t blitz like crazy all the time, this defense won’t holdup.


I don't know if we can properly evaluate the defense given the hole they were in when they finally took the field.
I think I am most stunned by the coaching  
moespree : 9/10/2023 10:19 pm : link
Not something anyone thought the Giants would have to worry about too many times with this staff.

But they are being torched in terms of preparation for this game.

Completely unprepared for this game. And they knew they were going to play Dallas since May. That's not good.
Take Jones out of this game  
Chris684 : 9/10/2023 10:19 pm : link
This is so stupid
I have an idea  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 10:19 pm : link
Maybe switch Neal and Glowinski...I mean, could it be any worse?
RE: Is Okereke playing?  
j_rud : 9/10/2023 10:19 pm : link
In comment 16198978 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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I mean in a very loose, broad sense yes. But not in any meaningful way.
Just an absolutely horrendous performance.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/10/2023 10:19 pm : link
From Mara to Schoen to Dabs to the players.

Everyone should be embarrassed.
Oh yeah, Slayton's still on the team  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 10:20 pm : link
.
There SeemsTo Be Plays  
wonderback : 9/10/2023 10:20 pm : link
Where every offensive lineman misses their man!
This  
mittenedman : 9/10/2023 10:20 pm : link
Offensive Line is completely unacceptable. Again.
Neal looks tentative  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 10:20 pm : link
and non-aggressive
.  
Danny Kanell : 9/10/2023 10:20 pm : link
Daboll is doing his QB a major disservice by leaving him in there.
RE: Take Jones out of this game  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 10:20 pm : link
In comment 16198999 Chris684 said:
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This is so stupid
Theyll wait til he's hurt
And another Evan Neal blunder  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 10:20 pm : link
.
Man  
santacruzom : 9/10/2023 10:20 pm : link
We were sure looking good until Thomas was called for that false start.
RE: We should sit Jones on the bench.  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 10:20 pm : link
In comment 16198992 ThomasG said:
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He’s done tonight and only going to get hurt.


Agreed. Daboll prolly wants him to try and get a good drive going first though. They'll prolly wait until the 4th quarter if things stay as they are.
Why does Bobby Okereke not look good either??  
prdave73 : 9/10/2023 10:20 pm : link
The dude has been a beast for 2 season in a row for the Colts?! Is it our coaching staff?? Why do players come to the Giants and regress?? and when the leave they become studs again??
again the headshots on the sideline  
D HOS : 9/10/2023 10:21 pm : link
I really wonder what that's about. It seems like something to do with the offense.
Neal getting destroyed  
Sean : 9/10/2023 10:21 pm : link
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I'm all for cancelling post game interviews  
bc4life : 9/10/2023 10:21 pm : link
I don't want to hear anything they have to say.

Just make sure you're all wearing ski masks when you show up for your check on Tuesday.
Sit your QB  
j_rud : 9/10/2023 10:21 pm : link
.
This team looks  
sb2003 : 9/10/2023 10:21 pm : link
completely unprepared to play football. It's weird.
Or maybe Dallas is just that good.
Can anyone block at all?.  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 10:21 pm : link
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Maybe these guys should have played more than 5 mins in preseason  
BH28 : 9/10/2023 10:21 pm : link
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Evan Neal might be the worst OT on the planet  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 10:21 pm : link
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OK this is dangerous for Jones  
D HOS : 9/10/2023 10:21 pm : link
Put in Tyrod now.
.  
Banks : 9/10/2023 10:21 pm : link
those first 6 min were such a tease. I was actually a believer. Then it all imploded in the worst way possible. Only thing that could make this worse is if it was against the eagles
Neals  
mittenedman : 9/10/2023 10:21 pm : link
Worse than Flowers
RE: This team looks  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 10:21 pm : link
In comment 16199018 sb2003 said:
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completely unprepared to play football. It's weird.
Or maybe Dallas is just that good.


I don't think Dallas is just that good. This team is just woeful.
& the arrogance of BBI about this game…  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/10/2023 10:22 pm : link
I hope people are humbled. This team isn’t in the same league as Dallas Philly I or SF.
Neal has to be benched.  
The_Taxman89_10 : 9/10/2023 10:22 pm : link
Just a horrific game by him
NEAL IS NOT PLAYABLE  
amindan54 : 9/10/2023 10:22 pm : link
im all for developing young players


but this is not playable.


you cant operate an offense with this guy AND Glowinski

this is pathetic.
Every lineman is losing  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 10:22 pm : link
There is no defending it
DEEEEEEEEEEP  
MauiYankee : 9/10/2023 10:22 pm : link
To Slayton!!
Neal  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 10:22 pm : link
again. As I said, he should have been benched. I assume his PFF grade will be 0.0.
RE: Evan Neal might be the worst OT on the planet  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 10:22 pm : link
In comment 16199021 The_Boss said:
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He was last year, for sure
I thought I read here  
JT039 : 9/10/2023 10:22 pm : link
That Bobby Johnson us a good OL coach.

Lol
I mean  
BleedBlue : 9/10/2023 10:22 pm : link
What game are you watching? The OL is a shitshow.

Jones may legit die if he keeps dropping back…
Evan Neal  
46and2Blue : 9/10/2023 10:22 pm : link
Is quickly approaching Eric flowers status
prdave  
bc4life : 9/10/2023 10:22 pm : link
Son in law was a arvens fan. many fans were not sad to him him go. teams are on to him?
How Evan Neal is still playing in this game is beyond me  
BlueHurricane : 9/10/2023 10:22 pm : link
Fucking guy should have benched hours ago.
Neal should be sat  
UberAlias : 9/10/2023 10:22 pm : link
It doesn’t look like he belongs in this league.
It’s time  
Devour the Day : 9/10/2023 10:22 pm : link
Sit Jones and Barkley.
As well as Lawrence and a few others.
This game is way over and getting key guys hurt will just make this more disastrous
Get Neal off the fucking field  
Jonesin 4 A Ship : 9/10/2023 10:22 pm : link
put Peart in......lets put Ezeudu in and take slow ass Glowinski out too.
RE: Why does Bobby Okereke not look good either??  
PetesHereNow : 9/10/2023 10:22 pm : link
In comment 16199013 prdave73 said:
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The dude has been a beast for 2 season in a row for the Colts?! Is it our coaching staff?? Why do players come to the Giants and regress?? and when the leave they become studs again??


He forced a fumble but of course, it bounced right to Dallas.
RE: Evan Neal might be the worst OT on the planet  
Silver Spoon : 9/10/2023 10:22 pm : link
In comment 16199021 The_Boss said:
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He’s beyond embarrassing.
An absolute and complete embarrassment  
GiantBlue : 9/10/2023 10:22 pm : link
This team should turn their game checks back in.
Honestly, everyone looks bad  
upnyg : 9/10/2023 10:23 pm : link
Coaching, players,...its bad. I would consider keeping Jones out to protect him and let me watch.

Throw out the young players like preseason. No sense in getting more injuries on the starters
...  
christian : 9/10/2023 10:23 pm : link
Daboll needs to pull Neal. It's not fair to Jones nor Neal.
RE: I thought I read here  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 10:23 pm : link
In comment 16199033 JT039 said:
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That Bobby Johnson us a good OL coach.

Lol


I'd actually seriously consider firing him after this. Thomas' career was saved when Columbo was fired, maybe Evans is saved by Johnson getting the axe.
RE: I'm all for cancelling post game interviews  
mittenedman : 9/10/2023 10:23 pm : link
In comment 16199016 bc4life said:
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I don't want to hear anything they have to say.

Just make sure you're all wearing ski masks when you show up for your check on Tuesday.


It would be awesome if nobody from the media showed up. Daboll walks into an empty room.
Maybe we see Trey Lance tonight? Did he dress?  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 9/10/2023 10:23 pm : link
?
They need to bench Neal  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 10:23 pm : link
He is THE MAJOR liability on this offense. His shit play is glaring and blinding while also being unfathomable and unacceptable.
Scary  
kelly : 9/10/2023 10:23 pm : link
Our coaches watched Evan Neal all spring practice and decided he was good to go at right tackle.

What does that say about our coaches?

What did they spike the gatorade with!
i really feel like the comments on this board are the same now for  
markky : 9/10/2023 10:23 pm : link
the 5th year in a row. why can't this team at least have a mediocre OL? Is Jones good or not? How could we know? Why are the players so uninspired?
Can we just see Neal at RG and Glowinski at RT?  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 10:23 pm : link
I really want to see how much worse it can get.
RE: I'm all for cancelling post game interviews  
beatrixkiddo : 9/10/2023 10:23 pm : link
In comment 16199016 bc4life said:
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I don't want to hear anything they have to say.

Just make sure you're all wearing ski masks when you show up for your check on Tuesday.


I’m sure Mara has the box of clown gear ready to go in the closet. Haha
Neal being this bad is unreal  
Ned In Atlanta : 9/10/2023 10:23 pm : link
He was a stud at Alabama and he looks like a practice squad NFL player
RE: Evan Neal  
NYPanos : 9/10/2023 10:23 pm : link
In comment 16199035 46and2Blue said:
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Is quickly approaching Eric flowers status


I disagree. I think he passed Flowers already. Lol
Last two Giants games have been, ummm...  
81_Great_Dane : 9/10/2023 10:23 pm : link
dispiriting.
I  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 10:23 pm : link
agree that Jones should be taken out of the game. There is no point to keeping him in right now. He's just going to get hit more.

Put in Taylor and some new OL.
I hope they hang 50 on us.  
bceagle05 : 9/10/2023 10:24 pm : link
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Umm  
Andrew in Austin : 9/10/2023 10:24 pm : link
Joined late to this disappointment.

I am not sure if DJ would have less time if they just removed our OL from the game.
RE: Scary  
Chocco : 9/10/2023 10:24 pm : link
In comment 16199050 kelly said:
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Our coaches watched Evan Neal all spring practice and decided he was good to go at right tackle.

What does that say about our coaches?

What did they spike the gatorade with!

No what is scary is that they don't have anyone better
Evan Neal =  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 10:24 pm : link
Neal should come out for Peart.  
Doug in MA : 9/10/2023 10:24 pm : link
It can't be worse and Neal's demeanor is terrible. Guy just doesn't have it tonight.
The collective wisdom was that it all depended on the oline...  
rnargi : 9/10/2023 10:24 pm : link
We have our answer. It's not about the QB, not about shiny new weapons. This team has no answer at either guard position and right tackle, and so far the new center is getting torched. 4/5s of the oline looks like they don't belong on an NFL field. This is...what it is.
Neal appears to be a major, major bust  
moespree : 9/10/2023 10:24 pm : link
He was a consensus too 10 pick though, so any GM would have taken him at 7.

But Thibs needs to pick it up too. They were picked 5 and 7 in that draft. You simply cannot miss on two draft picks that high.
RE: Neal  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 10:24 pm : link
In comment 16199031 AcidTest said:
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again. As I said, he should have been benched. I assume his PFF grade will be 0.0.


Looking forward to Sy’s review.
RE: They need to bench Neal  
Gmen703 : 9/10/2023 10:24 pm : link
In comment 16199049 SomeFan said:
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He is THE MAJOR liability on this offense. His shit play is glaring and blinding while also being unfathomable and unacceptable.


Don't have another tackle capable of blocking to replace him.
I never thought I’d say this but is Peart better?  
Tuckrule : 9/10/2023 10:24 pm : link
He can’t possibly be worse than this
Most of the time I don’t believe in pulling your starter  
Chris684 : 9/10/2023 10:24 pm : link
But this is different. Everyone is vulnerable in this weather, especially the guy getting sacked a million times.

The score of this game will be what it is, and it sucks royally but they have to move on quickly. Thankfully there is a winnable game next week against the Cards but now the importance of that game is heightened.
What  
BleedBlue : 9/10/2023 10:24 pm : link
The fuck is Roche’s celebrating for? We are getting shit on
RE: & the arrogance of BBI about this game…  
MauiYankee : 9/10/2023 10:24 pm : link
In comment 16199026 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I hope people are humbled. This team isn’t in the same league as Dallas Philly I or SF.


or wash or AR or MINN or GB or SF......




RE: Getting year two Joe Judge vibes  
BlueHurricane : 9/10/2023 10:24 pm : link
In comment 16198993 beatrixkiddo said:
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Team looks unprepared and like they don’t care. Hope I’m wrong


This. And McAdoo year two.
Neal is Shot  
GoDeep13 : 9/10/2023 10:25 pm : link
He has no confidence out there and, frankly with how he’s playing, he shouldn’t. Looks like he doesn’t even belong.
11hours under anesthesia?  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 10:25 pm : link
That is fucked up. I’m hesitant to go under for a tooth pull.
Even the  
mittenedman : 9/10/2023 10:25 pm : link
announcers are openly making fun of the Giants.
the look of Waller on the sideline  
KDavies : 9/10/2023 10:25 pm : link
was WTF did I get traded to?
rnargi  
bc4life : 9/10/2023 10:25 pm : link
and how the f does that happen? How many early round OL have they grabbed the last few years?
Evan Neal  
Breeze_94 : 9/10/2023 10:25 pm : link
I'm not sure you can have him out there. Probably give him a game or 2 more, but it may be time to look for a contingency plan.

He's worse than Flowers ever was. Jones isn't even able to get to his back foot. The left side is actually holding up decently.
RE: I never thought I’d say this but is Peart better?  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 10:25 pm : link
In comment 16199067 Tuckrule said:
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He can’t possibly be worse than this


Peart isn't any worse ...
This is where I usually delete the season...  
x meadowlander : 9/10/2023 10:26 pm : link
...and restart.
This game is so lopsided  
dlauster : 9/10/2023 10:26 pm : link
They are talking about tattoos
they have more talent than last year  
bc4life : 9/10/2023 10:26 pm : link
have to wonder about position coaches
RE: RE: They need to bench Neal  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 10:26 pm : link
In comment 16199066 Gmen703 said:
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In comment 16199049 SomeFan said:


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He is THE MAJOR liability on this offense. His shit play is glaring and blinding while also being unfathomable and unacceptable.



Don't have another tackle capable of blocking to replace him.
I had the same view but he has been so bad, I would try Peart.
RE: rnargi  
rnargi : 9/10/2023 10:26 pm : link
In comment 16199076 bc4life said:
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and how the f does that happen? How many early round OL have they grabbed the last few years?


Who knows? Bad scouting? Poor coaching? I have no clue.
Do our all world DE s have a sack tonight?  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 10:27 pm : link
.
 
christian : 9/10/2023 10:27 pm : link
When Bredeson pulls, it's like he's got Evan Neal on his back. That's not gonna work.
You  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 10:27 pm : link
bench Neal to send a message. It should have happened at halftime. Put in Peart. As I said, I would have also benched Glowinski.

Take all the starters out at this point.
Hits  
hopthered : 9/10/2023 10:27 pm : link
Our QB can't take this many hits in a game. 6 sacks, 10 runs most of which ended in a hit. Several other hits on drop backs. Plus he's running for his life.
All of my teams are trash  
Greg from LI : 9/10/2023 10:27 pm : link
-the Giants do this after a surprising season last year
-UVA football is the laughingstock of Division I
-worst Yankees season in 30 years
-UVA basketball had yet another first round upset in the most embarrassing fashion possible
-the Rangers and Knicks are the best of the bunch and that is the saddest statement I can imagine
2nd year in the league  
bc4life : 9/10/2023 10:27 pm : link
and Neal still struggling?

Stop throwing good money after bad and try him inside?
We're down to talking about  
sb2003 : 9/10/2023 10:27 pm : link
Dak's tattoo. There certainly isn't much football to discuss.
RE: they have more talent than last year  
46and2Blue : 9/10/2023 10:27 pm : link
In comment 16199081 bc4life said:
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have to wonder about position coaches

They have better names but the talent doesn’t seem to be there
Let's hope just a bad day  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/10/2023 10:27 pm : link
looks like the great the destruction of LOS under Reese extended by Dave continues. It was never going to be easy to come out of so much damage but it's been long enough.

Bill and Tom are too old to fix it. It's JS/Bd's turn but a big fail to start.

RE: You  
hopthered : 9/10/2023 10:27 pm : link
In comment 16199087 AcidTest said:
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bench Neal to send a message.
They should, but they won't.
as and aside the dallas D has 82 fucking FF points  
gtt350 : 9/10/2023 10:27 pm : link
.
the giant offense line  
thrunthrublue : 9/10/2023 10:28 pm : link
might play better under anesthesia.....unless they have been.
RE: Do our all world DE s have a sack tonight?  
BigBlueinDE : 9/10/2023 10:28 pm : link
In comment 16199085 Blue21 said:
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Nope.
Are we all agreed that Glowinski  
wonderback : 9/10/2023 10:28 pm : link
Is so bad nobody even wants to bring it up?
RE: 2nd year in the league  
46and2Blue : 9/10/2023 10:28 pm : link
In comment 16199091 bc4life said:
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and Neal still struggling?

Stop throwing good money after bad and try him inside?


And replace him with what?
RE: 2nd year in the league  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 10:28 pm : link
In comment 16199091 bc4life said:
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and Neal still struggling?

Stop throwing good money after bad and try him inside?


Struggling is an understatement. He's arguably the worst player at his position
RE: Are we all agreed that Glowinski  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 10:29 pm : link
In comment 16199099 wonderback said:
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Is so bad nobody even wants to bring it up?


He sucks too. He's just not as good as sucking as Neal is
RE: Are we all agreed that Glowinski  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 10:29 pm : link
In comment 16199099 wonderback said:
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Is so bad nobody even wants to bring it up?
He cannot be blocking worse than Neal, can he?
People liike Bobby Johnson  
bc4life : 9/10/2023 10:29 pm : link
and he interviews well. Is he a good coach? How can out OL be this bad?
How this game went  
Devour the Day : 9/10/2023 10:29 pm : link
This loss can have a season destroying impact.
Dallas on offense  
GoDeep13 : 9/10/2023 10:30 pm : link
Rain stops. Lol
Don't just pile on Neal  
Larry in Pencilvania : 9/10/2023 10:30 pm : link
Both Guards are horrific
RE: How this game went  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 10:30 pm : link
In comment 16199105 Devour the Day said:
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This loss can have a season destroying impact.


We’ll see next week.
RE: RE: Do our all world DE s have a sack tonight?  
hopthered : 9/10/2023 10:30 pm : link
In comment 16199098 BigBlueinDE said:
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In comment 16199085 Blue21 said:


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Nope.

No pressure whatsoever. That's not gonna help the rookie DBs
RE: You  
bradshaw44 : 9/10/2023 10:30 pm : link
In comment 16199087 AcidTest said:
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bench Neal to send a message. It should have happened at halftime. Put in Peart. As I said, I would have also benched Glowinski.

Take all the starters out at this point.


100% this. You have to set the fucking tone. You don’t let it slide cause it’s game one. Parcells would have murdered all of them at half time. Literally made them stop living on earth. Pathetic. Daboll has a deeeeeeep hole to climb out of. Deeeeep
Think we need to call it like it is…  
newjerseygiants : 9/10/2023 10:31 pm : link
Neal is a bust! Does not have the lateral quickness to compete in the NFL.
gonna have to  
bc4life : 9/10/2023 10:31 pm : link
game plan to give Neal help this season. He's clearly not getting it.

I can accept him being a 6th pick but not an all pro. but, this bad?
RE: People liike Bobby Johnson  
Chocco : 9/10/2023 10:31 pm : link
In comment 16199104 bc4life said:
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and he interviews well. Is he a good coach? How can out OL be this bad?

The players suck
if they dont beat ARI its 0-3 adn we are done for the season  
amindan54 : 9/10/2023 10:31 pm : link
we are done
It’s still only the third quarter.  
bceagle05 : 9/10/2023 10:31 pm : link
.
Where’s Banks?  
Eman11 : 9/10/2023 10:31 pm : link
Not a word on the broadcast about where he’s been or why he’s not out there.
They should ask Coach Daboll....  
thrunthrublue : 9/10/2023 10:32 pm : link
How he felt about the execution of his offensive line. He might answer that he is in favor of it.
RE: Where’s Banks?  
BleedBlue : 9/10/2023 10:32 pm : link
In comment 16199118 Eman11 said:
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Not a word on the broadcast about where he’s been or why he’s not out there.


Cramps
Their defense runs over our oline. Our defense  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 10:32 pm : link
Has to try and run 5 miles around them.
when Neal was drafted he said he  
bc4life : 9/10/2023 10:32 pm : link
just wanted to play, didn't matter whether it was guard or tackle. Doesn't look like he's a tackle. There has to be someone we can replace him with and slide him inside.
In the next few series, let’s  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 10:32 pm : link
decide who is the shuttles o-lineman out there. This will be a Sophie’s choice type of situation.
They’re talking about the Paris bid for the Olympics now  
cosmicj : 9/10/2023 10:33 pm : link
Lol
Cant wait to see the pff grades for our offense  
kelly : 9/10/2023 10:33 pm : link
Do you think anyone will grade above40?
RE: How this game went  
sb2003 : 9/10/2023 10:33 pm : link
In comment 16199105 Devour the Day said:
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This loss can have a season destroying impact.


They've done nothing well. All phases of the game imploded.

Next week. If the Giants fall to the Cards that's a bad sign for the season.
Why is DJ coming back in  
D HOS : 9/10/2023 10:33 pm : link
Are we scoring 5 TD's in the 4th quarter? No.
Any  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 10:33 pm : link
transition to guard for Neal won't happen this year. It would have to wait until the offseason. But that doesn't mean he shouldn't have been benched no later than halftime. I would have put in Peart. He can't be any worse (no one could) and it tells Neal that his play is unacceptable.
The worst part of this is that  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 10:33 pm : link
it's difficult to evaluate any of the other talent on the field when plays are IMMEDIATELY breaking down on the right side every play
I've switched to the new Daryll twd show  
thefan : 9/10/2023 10:33 pm : link
Can't believe people are watching this
Shuttles should be  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 10:33 pm : link
shittiest
RE: Don't just pile on Neal  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 10:33 pm : link
In comment 16199108 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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Both Guards are horrific


Many of us knew the guards needed an upgrade this coming off-season. Adding a RT as well only extends the process of getting this fucking OL corrected once and for all. Neal has to be an answer.
I think Neal is too tall with too high a center of gravity  
cosmicj : 9/10/2023 10:34 pm : link
To play guard.
Actually  
Chocco : 9/10/2023 10:34 pm : link
Starting to like the idea of bringing in Pugh
RE: when Neal was drafted he said he  
DaveInTampa : 9/10/2023 10:34 pm : link
In comment 16199122 bc4life said:
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just wanted to play, didn't matter whether it was guard or tackle. Doesn't look like he's a tackle. There has to be someone we can replace him with and slide him inside.


Who is that "someone"?
You know what  
46and2Blue : 9/10/2023 10:34 pm : link
F joe shoen for not upgrading the guard position …there I said it…I live the guy but the lines interior is a mess
RE: In the next few series, let’s  
markky : 9/10/2023 10:34 pm : link
In comment 16199123 SomeFan said:
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decide who is the shuttles o-lineman out there. This will be a Sophie’s choice type of situation.


more like Hobson's choice
The OL concern  
HBart : 9/10/2023 10:34 pm : link
Obviously warranted. Neal is unimaginably bad. I said nothing pointed to regression but damn I was wrong - he's worse than last season. It's stunning.

What stuns me os how impotent our DL is. Our edge looks like theirs on slow motion with skirts. Our interior guys are getting manhandled too.

Unprepared for Dallas's intensity too was also very surprising. First time in Daboll era I feel like we've been outcoached, and by miles.
How can the Giants keep missing on top 10 picks....Neal and  
fredgbrown : 9/10/2023 10:34 pm : link
Thibs...
RE: You know what  
Chocco : 9/10/2023 10:34 pm : link
In comment 16199137 46and2Blue said:
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F joe shoen for not upgrading the guard position …there I said it…I live the guy but the lines interior is a mess

Yup
better start snififng aournd  
bc4life : 9/10/2023 10:35 pm : link
someone's practice squad for an OT.
Tomorrow  
dlauster : 9/10/2023 10:35 pm : link
We will have the same record as Kansas City.

RE: Why is DJ coming back in  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 10:35 pm : link
In comment 16199127 D HOS said:
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Are we scoring 5 TD's in the 4th quarter? No.
This is his preseason. Trouble is this game counts.
DaveinTampa  
bc4life : 9/10/2023 10:35 pm : link
Has to be someone that can play better than this.
Dallas is just so much faster  
Sean : 9/10/2023 10:36 pm : link
.
Just some thoughts  
Bill in UT : 9/10/2023 10:36 pm : link
1- Taking draft position into account, Schoen's first 2 picks, Thibs and Neal, may be his worst so far. Have they looked at Neal at RG at all, maybe there's a way to salvage him. Is Bobby Johnson really an OL guru? Who has he made better?
2- Adoree Jackson was horrible in the slot tonight. Couldn'td cover anyone and got washed out on run plays. When Banks went out they replaced him with McCloud. Why not replace him with AJ and put Holmes in the slot?
3-There is a real chance that we will need to acquire 3 starters on the OL for next season, and that is with giving JMS the benefit of the doubt
4-We are not as bad as we look tonight. But we are also not a threat to win the SB this year.
paris campbell sucks  
amindan54 : 9/10/2023 10:36 pm : link
6m to that scrub
Remember when this game was good  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 10:36 pm : link
during those first 8 plays. It seems a lifetime ago, almost like a different season.
dallas just playing base D and Parsons is walking  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 9/10/2023 10:36 pm : link
around the field. Game is over. This is garbage time.
dlauster  
bc4life : 9/10/2023 10:37 pm : link
that's like me saying "tomorrow John Holmes and I will both have a penis."
RE: Tomorrow  
46and2Blue : 9/10/2023 10:37 pm : link
In comment 16199144 dlauster said:
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We will have the same record as Kansas City.

It’s not the loss …kc wasnt embarrassed at home like this
How many routes?  
newjerseygiants : 9/10/2023 10:37 pm : link
Are designed more than 3 yards downfield?
RE: RE: Don't just pile on Neal  
Paulie Walnuts : 9/10/2023 10:37 pm : link
In comment 16199133 The_Boss said:
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In comment 16199108 Larry in Pencilvania said:


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Both Guards are horrific



Many of us knew the guards needed an upgrade this coming off-season. Adding a RT as well only extends the process of getting this fucking OL corrected once and for all. Neal has to be an answer.
agree
RE: dlauster  
dlauster : 9/10/2023 10:37 pm : link
In comment 16199153 bc4life said:
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that's like me saying "tomorrow John Holmes and I will both have a penis."


I know…Im just trying not to cry
Dabs  
Devour the Day : 9/10/2023 10:38 pm : link
I guess no cigars for Dabs tonight.
He should be embarrassed by this display.
Hopefully he has a nice bed at Quest as he should spend the week there trying to correct this debacle.
Belly pushes defender  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 10:38 pm : link
Into Jones
Why would you run Jones losing 33-0  
Blue21 : 9/10/2023 10:38 pm : link
.
Just curious  
Reeses Pieces : 9/10/2023 10:38 pm : link
Who would have been the pick if the Giants passed on Neal?
RE: Tomorrow  
NoPeanutz : 9/10/2023 10:38 pm : link
In comment 16199144 dlauster said:
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We will have the same record as Kansas City.

exactly. 80-0 costs the same as 21-20. I feel bad for the guy who had to load the TOUCHDOWN FIREWORKS silos in the rain before the game. I think Nathaniel Hackett called him "the fucker."
Neal is gonna get Jonesninjured  
beatrixkiddo : 9/10/2023 10:38 pm : link
Before this game is over. Worse than Glowers
why is jones  
Boss 63 : 9/10/2023 10:38 pm : link
in there
Daboll is pissing me off  
Chris684 : 9/10/2023 10:38 pm : link
Jones is out here running around taking hits in the late 3rd quarter a 5 touchdown game in the rain.
neal is a turnstile he sucksssss  
amindan54 : 9/10/2023 10:39 pm : link
hes awfullll
Continuing  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 10:39 pm : link
to play Jones and other starters reminds me of the famous quip from Mark Twain: "The more you explain it, the more I don't understand it."

Neal is just being annihilated on every play.
Fuck it  
Gmen703 : 9/10/2023 10:39 pm : link
Throw it deep.
RE: RE: Tomorrow  
NoPeanutz : 9/10/2023 10:39 pm : link
In comment 16199154 46and2Blue said:
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In comment 16199144 dlauster said:


Quote:


We will have the same record as Kansas City.



It’s not the loss …kc wasnt embarrassed at home like this

I am sure KC was embarrassed. They did not expect to lose. I think most Giants fans expected to be eviscerated like this. At home in prime time against Dallas. Like whipped dogs.
This could be the worst performance  
Silver Spoon : 9/10/2023 10:39 pm : link
I’ve ever witnessed. That’s saying something.
RE: RE: Don't just pile on Neal  
Bill in UT : 9/10/2023 10:40 pm : link
In comment 16199133 The_Boss said:
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In comment 16199108 Larry in Pencilvania said:


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Both Guards are horrific



Many of us knew the guards needed an upgrade this coming off-season.


Yet, how many on BBI bought into the Daboll BS that we were just moving guys around for versatility during the season?
RE: neal is a turnstile he sucksssss  
BleedBlue : 9/10/2023 10:40 pm : link
In comment 16199166 amindan54 said:
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hes awfullll



It’s so bad it’s almost like he is trying to throw it….he isn’t even trying to block
if I was Neal  
bc4life : 9/10/2023 10:40 pm : link
I'd start committing penalties every play. At least it would look like he's trying
RE: Fuck it  
Chocco : 9/10/2023 10:40 pm : link
In comment 16199168 Gmen703 said:
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Throw it deep.

They can't
the cowboys got gilmore and cooks proven vets  
amindan54 : 9/10/2023 10:40 pm : link
we paid for campbell and a rookie hawkins....

im sorry the talent gap is enormous.
Neal looks like the worst offensive lineman  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 10:40 pm : link
I have ever seen start on a Giants team.
RE: Even the  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 10:40 pm : link
In comment 16199074 mittenedman said:
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announcers are openly making fun of the Giants.


Deservedly so. They effed their ratings.
I have no issue leaving Jones in  
Sean : 9/10/2023 10:40 pm : link
I'm sure Daboll wants at least one positive drive. Probably won't happen.
Daboll  
JoeyBigBlue : 9/10/2023 10:40 pm : link
Is a stubborn MF. Just take out Jones already. ENOUGH.
Whatever Willie Anderson is teaching the OL its  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 9/10/2023 10:41 pm : link
not working.
RE: dlauster  
Johnny5 : 9/10/2023 10:41 pm : link
In comment 16199153 bc4life said:
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that's like me saying "tomorrow John Holmes and I will both have a penis."

Oh thank you for this. I am so SO fucking pissed off but this made me crack up. Thank you... lol
Evan Neal fucking sucks ass.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/10/2023 10:41 pm : link
.
The Dallas d-backs only have to guard our receivers  
CT Charlie : 9/10/2023 10:41 pm : link
for 0.4 seconds or so.
RE: I have no issue leaving Jones in  
Chocco : 9/10/2023 10:41 pm : link
In comment 16199178 Sean said:
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I'm sure Daboll wants at least one positive drive. Probably won't happen.

They could stop some of the designed runs
Its like the RT coaching consists of....  
56GiantsUK : 9/10/2023 10:41 pm : link
just put those pads on and stand there...

Scott Gragg was a hall of famer  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 10:41 pm : link
In comparison.
I'm not giving up on Neal  
bc4life : 9/10/2023 10:41 pm : link
He just does not appear to be a tackle, has to be moved inside.
Disaster of epic proportion.  
Ralph.C : 9/10/2023 10:41 pm : link
Iits like the 1995 Monday Night “closed the gap” gam when Smith waved “bye bye” to our season on his long TD run.

This was never even a game. On the Giants first drive it felt good. But once that blocked FG happened the team looked beaten.

It’s hard to fathom.

SHUT OUT????
SHUT OUT????
(As of right now)

All of the good feeling? All that was accomplished last year?
All of the upgrades? All of the praise for Shoen and Daboll?
It all disappeared after ONE QUARTER of this game.

I just can’t belief that played this badly.
2017 Giants, 2023 Giants  
giantsfanforlife : 9/10/2023 10:42 pm : link
Had a good year the previous year, high expectation & come out flat. Feels like that.
When will Tommy DeVito  
yalebowl : 9/10/2023 10:42 pm : link
Be promoted to the active roster?
RE: How many routes?  
Cyrus the Great : 9/10/2023 10:42 pm : link
In comment 16199155 newjerseygiants said:
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Are designed more than 3 yards downfield?


None because we can't pass protect long enough for routes longer than 3 yards to develop.
RE: Neal looks like the worst offensive lineman  
beatrixkiddo : 9/10/2023 10:43 pm : link
In comment 16199176 SomeFan said:
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I have ever seen start on a Giants team.


Picked up right where he left off, maybe even worse. He needs to get benched and maybe earn a spot at one of the guard spots if he really works at it. What’s bust.
Neal is not worse than Flowers..  
RAIN : 9/10/2023 10:43 pm : link
Glowinski is having an equally terrible game. Ezuedu needs to get into the game.

Banks has cramps.
I can confidently say…  
knowledgetimmons : 9/10/2023 10:43 pm : link
No superbowl for us this year. I hope I’m still allowed to post on this board. Just checking
RE: Disaster of epic proportion.  
dlauster : 9/10/2023 10:43 pm : link
In comment 16199188 Ralph.C said:
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Iits like the 1995 Monday Night “closed the gap” gam when Smith waved “bye bye” to our season on his long TD run.

This was never even a game. On the Giants first drive it felt good. But once that blocked FG happened the team looked beaten.

It’s hard to fathom.

SHUT OUT????
SHUT OUT????
(As of right now)

All of the good feeling? All that was accomplished last year?
All of the upgrades? All of the praise for Shoen and Daboll?
It all disappeared after ONE QUARTER of this game.

I just can’t belief that played this badly.


Yep. I guess the last question left is do we even score?
Is this kind of scary  
wonderback : 9/10/2023 10:43 pm : link
On the few plays where Jones has some time, nobody’s open.
It  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 10:43 pm : link
won't happen, but the starting OL next week should be:

Thomas.
Ezeudu.
Bredeson.
McKethan.
Peart.
RE: I have no issue leaving Jones in  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 10:43 pm : link
In comment 16199178 Sean said:
Quote:
I'm sure Daboll wants at least one positive drive. Probably won't happen.


That's what's happening. Even Dabes will say no mas at a vertain point though. I'm guessing that'll be around the 10 minute to 7.5 minute mark of the 4th Qtr wjen he pulls the plug and puts TT in at QB and then proceeds to empty the bench everywhere else. Pride's at stake too.
RE: When will Tommy DeVito  
Chocco : 9/10/2023 10:43 pm : link
In comment 16199190 yalebowl said:
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Be promoted to the active roster?

Not gonna lie. I wouldn't mind seeing DeVito about now. No interest in watching Taylor
It is strange how many people  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 10:43 pm : link
thought Neal was going to be good this year after showing absolutely nothing last year. Not trying to call anyone out...just don't understand where the logic was coming from.
mcfadden cant get off that block...  
amindan54 : 9/10/2023 10:43 pm : link
shame
RE: DaveinTampa  
DaveInTampa : 9/10/2023 10:43 pm : link
In comment 16199146 bc4life said:
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Has to be someone that can play better than this.


Tyre Philips looked decent at times last year at OT. But for some reason, we decided to cut him. Part is no better than Neal
RE: Daboll  
NYPanos : 9/10/2023 10:44 pm : link
In comment 16199179 JoeyBigBlue said:
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Is a stubborn MF. Just take out Jones already. ENOUGH.


They have a whole quarter. They might win. Lol lol lol
I guess we all should have expected this, but what’s frustrating  
Jim in Hoboken : 9/10/2023 10:44 pm : link
is our best players haven’t done a thing. Show some pride man.

This is disgusting. They deserve whatever comes their way tomorrow on the radio.
RE: RE: DaveinTampa  
DaveInTampa : 9/10/2023 10:44 pm : link
In comment 16199202 DaveInTampa said:
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In comment 16199146 bc4life said:


Quote:


Has to be someone that can play better than this.



Tyre Philips looked decent at times last year at OT. But for some reason, we decided to cut him. Part is no better than Neal


Peart
It’s laughable watching the defense  
Beezer : 9/10/2023 10:44 pm : link
running stunts and shuffling the alignment pre-snap, only to watch the Dallas line stonewall everything and Dak delivers a pass on the money from a quiet pocket.
Thibs  
mittenedman : 9/10/2023 10:44 pm : link
may have well stayed home tonight too. Owned.
taking castoffs like simmons, campbell, okerere....just non difference  
amindan54 : 9/10/2023 10:44 pm : link
makers

The Cowboys can be heard now on NBC.  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 10:45 pm : link
Embarrassing "Let's go Cowboys" chants.
RE: Just curious  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 10:45 pm : link
In comment 16199161 Reeses Pieces said:
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Who would have been the pick if the Giants passed on Neal?


Charles Cross
Nobody's  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 10:45 pm : link
getting open because the Cowboys are getting to Jones with just four or five rushers. That leaves six or seven defenders they can drop back into coverage.
I’m going to wonder if this game would have been different  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 10:46 pm : link
Had Thomas not committed that false start on the first drive and that drive resulted in a TD. Maybe we still lose 40-7, but we’d have a brief few minutes of good vibes. Instead, we got nothing all night to feel good about. Just angst.
JHC  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 10:46 pm : link
It may be 40-0 soon
wonder if Wink  
bc4life : 9/10/2023 10:46 pm : link
gets too cute? keep it simpler and maybe they play faster?
I was at the game.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/10/2023 10:46 pm : link
The amount of Cowboys fans there for a Week 1 game is embarrassing. This fanbase fucking sucks.
Yeah Charles Cross  
46and2Blue : 9/10/2023 10:46 pm : link
Has been good….I don’t blame the giants for picking Neal where they did…just a shame this is how it ended up so far
RE: I was at the game.  
46and2Blue : 9/10/2023 10:47 pm : link
In comment 16199215 Dave in Hoboken said:
Quote:
The amount of Cowboys fans there for a Week 1 game is embarrassing. This fanbase fucking sucks.


After the last few games can you blame them?
RE: It  
mittenedman : 9/10/2023 10:47 pm : link
In comment 16199197 AcidTest said:
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won't happen, but the starting OL next week should be:

Thomas.
Ezeudu.
Bredeson.
McKethan.
Peart.


Exeudu is God Awful too
Was is sicker watching  
HewlettGiant : 9/10/2023 10:47 pm : link
Us take a knee from our own 10 yard line in Judges last game or this?


RE: I was at the game.  
Sean : 9/10/2023 10:47 pm : link
In comment 16199215 Dave in Hoboken said:
Quote:
The amount of Cowboys fans there for a Week 1 game is embarrassing. This fanbase fucking sucks.

Gotta love our "I hate night games" fans. They do suck. Other fanbases embrace it. Here, it's "down in front!".
A  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 10:47 pm : link
lot of people, including myself, wanted Neal. Cross of course would have been better. But we're not professional scouts getting paid thousands of dollars to make those picks.
RE: This could be the worst performance  
sec308 : 9/10/2023 10:47 pm : link
In comment 16199170 Silver Spoon said:
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I’ve ever witnessed. That’s saying something.


Couldn't agree more.
RE: It is strange how many people  
beatrixkiddo : 9/10/2023 10:48 pm : link
In comment 16199200 Thunderstruck27 said:
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thought Neal was going to be good this year after showing absolutely nothing last year. Not trying to call anyone out...just don't understand where the logic was coming from.


Yep. He is plying even worse than last year, hard to regress from that. I called it out as a key to the season, was our success depended on Neal becoming even average. Him not improving at all and this season is over. They need to see what other guys can do at RT, Peart can’t possibly be worse. Neal needs to go to the bench and work on competing for an OG job. He is not a tackle.
...  
christian : 9/10/2023 10:48 pm : link
The Cowboys just put a 3rd grader in to score.
RE: RE: I was at the game.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/10/2023 10:48 pm : link
In comment 16199217 46and2Blue said:
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In comment 16199215 Dave in Hoboken said:


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The amount of Cowboys fans there for a Week 1 game is embarrassing. This fanbase fucking sucks.



After the last few games can you blame them?


Considering how good we were last year, absolutely.
RE: Daboll is pissing me off  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/10/2023 10:48 pm : link
In comment 16199165 Chris684 said:
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Jones is out here running around taking hits in the late 3rd quarter a 5 touchdown game in the rain.


Jones helped with the shitshow too. No sympathy from me.
.  
Banks : 9/10/2023 10:48 pm : link
that little shit made it look easy
C’mon guys!  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 10:48 pm : link
Game is not over till the fat lady sings!
RE: Yeah Charles Cross  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 10:48 pm : link
In comment 16199216 46and2Blue said:
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Has been good….I don’t blame the giants for picking Neal where they did…just a shame this is how it ended up so far


The thing is, I think if we had picked Cross, he'd be awful and Neal would be good in Seattle.
Dave in Hoboken  
bc4life : 9/10/2023 10:48 pm : link
and most of those douche bags wearing Cowboy gear have neevr been close to Texas.
RE: I was at the game.  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 10:49 pm : link
In comment 16199215 Dave in Hoboken said:
Quote:
The amount of Cowboys fans there for a Week 1 game is embarrassing. This fanbase fucking sucks.


I hate to say it, but this would never happen in Philly.
Has Leonard Williams  
mittenedman : 9/10/2023 10:49 pm : link
been on the field tonight?

Tell me again how he’s a top DT.
Remember This  
WillVAB : 9/10/2023 10:49 pm : link
Next April when people are crying for skill guys in the draft.

The Giants have zero chance of winning the division until they get better up front.
40 burger  
rocco8112 : 9/10/2023 10:49 pm : link
complete

Did Daboll peak last year? All goodwill from last year squandered? I mean, it is one game, but what a fucking disaster. At home, national TV, Cowboys.

Must win next week or kiss this season good bye.
RE: It is strange how many people  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 10:49 pm : link
In comment 16199200 Thunderstruck27 said:
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thought Neal was going to be good this year after showing absolutely nothing last year. Not trying to call anyone out...just don't understand where the logic was coming from.


He went out and worked to get better by working with Willie Anderson. My hope here, like when you change your swing in golf, is you get worse for a while before you get better. That’s really all I can hang my hat on with Neal at the moment. If this is who he is, the NYG are f’ed.
Turpin Time!!!  
MauiYankee : 9/10/2023 10:50 pm : link
Given the lack of pre-season work, the Giants should gel around week 7 or 8.
Wait til next year.
Seeing Jones hurry to find his helmet and practice ball  
JALAPEN0 : 9/10/2023 10:50 pm : link
after falling down 40-0 made me chuckles.

And feel encouraged.
RE: Remember This  
beatrixkiddo : 9/10/2023 10:50 pm : link
In comment 16199234 WillVAB said:
Quote:
Next April when people are crying for skill guys in the draft.

The Giants have zero chance of winning the division until they get better up front.


I just don’t trust them to evaluate OL. They have an awful success rate at drafting them.
Dan Reeves can rest in peace  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 10:50 pm : link
This is horrendous and much worse than 95.
Fucking Pathetic  
Bernie : 9/10/2023 10:50 pm : link
What an embarrassment.
would love to hear from an OL expert  
bc4life : 9/10/2023 10:50 pm : link
in calm, objective language why this OL is so friggin bad.
RE: RE: It is strange how many people  
mittenedman : 9/10/2023 10:50 pm : link
In comment 16199223 beatrixkiddo said:
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In comment 16199200 Thunderstruck27 said:


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thought Neal was going to be good this year after showing absolutely nothing last year. Not trying to call anyone out...just don't understand where the logic was coming from.



Yep. He is plying even worse than last year, hard to regress from that. I called it out as a key to the season, was our success depended on Neal becoming even average. Him not improving at all and this season is over. They need to see what other guys can do at RT, Peart can’t possibly be worse. Neal needs to go to the bench and work on competing for an OG job. He is not a tackle.


Peary is terrible too. They all suck. And Thomas looks hobbled again.
RE: It  
bluefin : 9/10/2023 10:50 pm : link
In comment 16199197 AcidTest said:
Quote:
won't happen, but the starting OL next week should be:

Thomas.
Ezeudu.
Bredeson.
McKethan.
Peart.

Lemieux is the best LG option, and JMS needs to stay at C bc there’s hope he’ll develop. I’d move Ben Bredeson to RG. Ezeudu is too inconsistent. I’d like to see a McKethan play RT, he looks the part.
The most surprising thing is  
thefan : 9/10/2023 10:50 pm : link
not losing to Dallas, we are used to this, but the blowout fashion. Did they beat us by more than a score or two at all last year?
RE: Dave in Hoboken  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 10:50 pm : link
In comment 16199230 bc4life said:
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and most of those douche bags wearing Cowboy gear have neevr been close to Texas.


So true. Cowboys fans from Texas are actually alright. One of my longtime friends is from Dallas. Good peeps. NY/NJ Cowboys fans are the scum of the Earth though. Ugh.
RE: Remember This  
Johnny5 : 9/10/2023 10:50 pm : link
In comment 16199234 WillVAB said:
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Next April when people are crying for skill guys in the draft.

The Giants have zero chance of winning the division until they get better up front.

I don't know how many times it has to be said. We will never.... NEVER... FUCKING EVER compete with Dallas or Philly until WE FIX THIS FUCKING OL.
RE: Seeing Jones hurry to find his helmet and practice ball  
BleedBlue : 9/10/2023 10:50 pm : link
In comment 16199238 JALAPEN0 said:
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after falling down 40-0 made me chuckles.

And feel encouraged.



I mean hesrt can never be questioned. It’s not easy to play the position when your OL is a fucking bunch of trash cans
Hire Mike Munchak and replace Bobby Johnson  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 10:51 pm : link
.
 
christian : 9/10/2023 10:51 pm : link
The Giants have 3 former first round, and one high second round player on their defensive line. What do you want them to do?
Well the good news  
NDMedics : 9/10/2023 10:51 pm : link
Is the we don’t have to worry about losing Wink and Kafka. Sarcasm off.
Did I miss the memo  
HewlettGiant : 9/10/2023 10:51 pm : link
That no posts during the game are permitted during the game...aside from the game post?

Shouldn’t out deficient OL show up  
yalebowl : 9/10/2023 10:51 pm : link
In practice during the week!
RE: Remember This  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 10:51 pm : link
In comment 16199234 WillVAB said:
Quote:
Next April when people are crying for skill guys in the draft.

The Giants have zero chance of winning the division until they get better up front.


You don’t have to draft OL with top picks to become good.
Man, heads are gonna roll after this game.  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 9/10/2023 10:51 pm : link
The team isn't showing any heart.
This  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 10:51 pm : link
is much worse than 1995 IMO, and not just because the score is now 40-0. The expectations were a lot higher for this team, and we haven't beaten Dak since his rookie season.
Lol I turn this game back on for  
thefan : 9/10/2023 10:51 pm : link
one play and its a fumble.

FUCK THIS TEAM. Later.
RE: RE: It is strange how many people  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 10:52 pm : link
In comment 16199236 The_Boss said:
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In comment 16199200 Thunderstruck27 said:


Quote:


thought Neal was going to be good this year after showing absolutely nothing last year. Not trying to call anyone out...just don't understand where the logic was coming from.



He went out and worked to get better by working with Willie Anderson. My hope here, like when you change your swing in golf, is you get worse for a while before you get better. That’s really all I can hang my hat on with Neal at the moment. If this is who he is, the NYG are f’ed.


I hope that's the problem. The only pass you can give him at this point is it's the first game of the season and Dallas has good players. His PFF score will be interesting
RE: Remember This  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 10:52 pm : link
In comment 16199234 WillVAB said:
Quote:
Next April when people are crying for skill guys in the draft.

The Giants have zero chance of winning the division until they get better up front.


You want this regime to draft another Neal? I think the problem is deeper.
….  
CoughlinHandsonHips : 9/10/2023 10:52 pm : link
Holy crap
Dude seriously?  
Chris684 : 9/10/2023 10:52 pm : link
Why are we such pussies?

Do you think they’re going to try to strip the ball out Isiah?
Good thing I’m dyslexic…  
thrunthrublue : 9/10/2023 10:52 pm : link
It’s only 4 nothing!
.  
Banks : 9/10/2023 10:52 pm : link
fitting i guess
Heaven forbid this defense create just ONE fucking turnover  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/10/2023 10:52 pm : link
for ONCE. Can't intercept the ball, can't recover a fumble. I mean, Jesus. Can't sack the QB, either.
I wasn't knocking Jones. Not 100% him or anyone  
JALAPEN0 : 9/10/2023 10:52 pm : link
More like laughing at why they are still sending him in.

Gotta be shitting me  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 10:52 pm : link
Lol
Wow wow wow.  
Beezer : 9/10/2023 10:52 pm : link
I’m rooting for Dallas to score a couple more times.
Good God  
NDMedics : 9/10/2023 10:52 pm : link
.
I mean, the Giants are easily the worst team that played today, right?  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/10/2023 10:53 pm : link
And it’s not even close?
Hodgkin fumbles  
cosmicj : 9/10/2023 10:53 pm : link
You’ve got to be kidding me.
Unwatchable  
Percy : 9/10/2023 10:53 pm : link
And nothing suggests that this might change. Next week will be worth taking another look just to see, but the present personnel look jfundamentally unsound.
RE: RE: It  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 10:53 pm : link
In comment 16199244 bluefin said:
Quote:
In comment 16199197 AcidTest said:


Quote:


won't happen, but the starting OL next week should be:

Thomas.
Ezeudu.
Bredeson.
McKethan.
Peart.


Lemieux is the best LG option, and JMS needs to stay at C bc there’s hope he’ll develop. I’d move Ben Bredeson to RG. Ezeudu is too inconsistent. I’d like to see a McKethan play RT, he looks the part.


Fine with me. Just don't trot out the same five as this week, although I think that's what Daboll will unfortunately do.
Gonna be wild when the cardinals kick our ass next week  
Knickstape : 9/10/2023 10:53 pm : link
We can start the Caleb Williams train
Neal may suck but this disaster is coaching  
sb2003 : 9/10/2023 10:53 pm : link


These guys look like it's the first time they've played football in a year or two and the game plan was to try a couple of things and see how it rolls.
WTF????  
NYPanos : 9/10/2023 10:53 pm : link
WTF
.  
Danny Kanell : 9/10/2023 10:53 pm : link
This is honestly so bad I’m not sure I’m even going to take much stock into it. This is a bad dream. None of it makes sense. Just flush it and move onto next week.
I wonder what our GM is thinking  
gtt350 : 9/10/2023 10:53 pm : link
.
what gets me baffled is  
56GiantsUK : 9/10/2023 10:53 pm : link
We send 4/5/6/7 and they are easily picked up and dealt with...

They send 2/3/4 and drop the rest and immediately there is pressure on Jones...

It's just ridiculous

RE: C’mon guys!  
D HOS : 9/10/2023 10:53 pm : link
In comment 16199228 SomeFan said:
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Game is not over till the fat lady sings!


Well that's the problem. Queen Latifah sang the national anthem. Game over. She did great though.
To hell with it  
dlauster : 9/10/2023 10:54 pm : link
Get the whole year’s turnovers out of the way in the first game.
I love Daboll, but this team was not ready  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/10/2023 10:54 pm : link
to play football tonight.
RE: Heaven forbid this defense create just ONE fucking turnover  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 10:54 pm : link
In comment 16199264 Dave in Hoboken said:
Quote:
for ONCE. Can't intercept the ball, can't recover a fumble. I mean, Jesus. Can't sack the QB, either.


Maybe this is why Baltimore let Martindale go ....
RE: I wonder what our GM is thinking  
santacruzom : 9/10/2023 10:54 pm : link
In comment 16199277 gtt350 said:
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.


"Holy damn, this is the worst beating of the entire opening weekend."
Welp  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 10:54 pm : link
That is one way to get Jones out of the game.
RE: would love to hear from an OL expert  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 10:54 pm : link
In comment 16199242 bc4life said:
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in calm, objective language why this OL is so friggin bad.


You put an untested rookie C in prime time against an elite defensive front and asked him to make line calls and adjustments. Evan Neal looks like he’s just as bad at football as he was last season. Glowinski is an aging backup G at this point.
It  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 10:54 pm : link
looks like every Giant was inactive tonight.
RE: The most surprising thing is  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 10:54 pm : link
In comment 16199245 thefan said:
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not losing to Dallas, we are used to this, but the blowout fashion. Did they beat us by more than a score or two at all last year?


I recall the game at home against the Cowboys last season being competitive until the 4th Qtr with the Giants having their moments. This is something else. A bad start is ok. %hit happens. How they responded was alarming. This club still can't play form behind.
RE: Did I miss the memo  
bluefin : 9/10/2023 10:54 pm : link
In comment 16199252 HewlettGiant said:
Quote:
That no posts during the game are permitted during the game...aside from the game post?

RE: .  
Vinny from Danbury : 9/10/2023 10:55 pm : link
In comment 16199276 Danny Kanell said:
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This is honestly so bad I’m not sure I’m even going to take much stock into it. This is a bad dream. None of it makes sense. Just flush it and move onto next week.


I’ve felt that way since midway through the 1st Quarter…
Interesting  
MauiYankee : 9/10/2023 10:55 pm : link
Watching a contemplative D. Jones looking forward to Tuesdays well earned check.
Serious question  
DaveInTampa : 9/10/2023 10:55 pm : link
How many other QBs have beaten the same team 11 times in a row? Has to be a short list
What the fuck was this team doing all summer?  
BlueHurricane : 9/10/2023 10:55 pm : link
This team is/was grossly unprepared on every level and is obviously not mentally tough.
More weapons was not what the Giants' offense needed.  
Reese's Pieces : 9/10/2023 10:55 pm : link
We heard that Jones had to get the ball downfield more often and they put a lot of emphasis on receivers.

Not true. What we learned from the Giants' four Super Bowl wins is that if you protect the quarterback he can make any set of receivers look good.

The only player who was a highly paid star was Plax.

Parcells: Stephen Baker, Mark Ingram, Lionel Manuel

Coughlin: David Tyree, Hakeem Nicks, Mario Manningham. Victor Cruz

I think all were out of football three years later.
What a difference a year makes  
Eman11 : 9/10/2023 10:55 pm : link
As high as I felt last year after week one I feel as low as can be after week one this year
What I want daboll to say  
HewlettGiant : 9/10/2023 10:56 pm : link
This was the worst embarrassment I have ever been associated with in my history of coaching.

Tonight's game was unacceptable and it won't take me a day to watch the film to know we did not show up.

Jobs are going to be on the line, players and coaches.

Apologise to those who showed up tonight
12.2 qb rating for danny…..  
thrunthrublue : 9/10/2023 10:56 pm : link
Belushi was 0.0 in animal house….
….  
CoughlinHandsonHips : 9/10/2023 10:56 pm : link
I think this team was reading its own press clippings

Hopefully a wakeup call outa this
RE: Serious question  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/10/2023 10:56 pm : link
In comment 16199291 DaveInTampa said:
Quote:
How many other QBs have beaten the same team 11 times in a row? Has to be a short list


We lost to Cooper Rush. WGAF about Dak?
The crippled and mostly talentless  
Chris684 : 9/10/2023 10:56 pm : link
Giants team that played on Thanksgiving Day last year put up more fight than this new roster does at home to open the season.

I’m at a loss.
Never saw this coming  
Steve L : 9/10/2023 10:56 pm : link
Even Dallas fans I know are shocked. Worst game they’ve played in a long time. And they’ve played in some stinkers.

I expect more next week.
RE: what gets me baffled is  
mittenedman : 9/10/2023 10:57 pm : link
In comment 16199278 56GiantsUK said:
Quote:
We send 4/5/6/7 and they are easily picked up and dealt with...

They send 2/3/4 and drop the rest and immediately there is pressure on Jones...

It's just ridiculous


Yup. DAL playing at a different speed and intensity level. It’s tired.
The difference  
Ike#88 : 9/10/2023 10:57 pm : link
in impacting the game between pick #11 Parsons and pick #5 Thibs is enormous. Why put Jones in this late in the blowout?
Ummm  
Bernie : 9/10/2023 10:57 pm : link
Not for nothing, but has there been a Thibodeaux sighting? #5 and #7/picks nowhere to be found. Sweet.
This is more of a beat down  
sb2003 : 9/10/2023 10:57 pm : link

than the eagles in the playoffs last year. It's mind boggling how horrific this is.
You know what hurts me the most  
blueblood : 9/10/2023 10:57 pm : link
tonight was the first night my son wanted to sit down and watch a football game with his dad. He has never been interested in football before.. and this is what we had to watch..

Ive been a Giants fan for 45 plus years.. and I have NEVER been as disgusted with this team as I am tonight.. and its not even losing is them completely embarrassing the hell out of themselves.

Absolutely RUINED what should have been a special father and son evening.
Can't block them  
JoeFootball : 9/10/2023 10:57 pm : link
Can't beat them.
RE: Serious question  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 10:57 pm : link
In comment 16199291 DaveInTampa said:
Quote:
How many other QBs have beaten the same team 11 times in a row? Has to be a short list


Aaron Rodgers owned the Bears, but not sure on the record
is Cowboys DL elite  
bc4life : 9/10/2023 10:58 pm : link
Eagles okay. But Cowboys not so sure...
have we ever been beaten worse than this?  
gtt350 : 9/10/2023 10:59 pm : link
.
...  
christian : 9/10/2023 10:59 pm : link
Side note, what the hell happened to Daniel Jones's nose? It looks like later years Michael Jackson.
RE: More weapons was not what the Giants' offense needed.  
thefan : 9/10/2023 10:59 pm : link
In comment 16199293 Reese's Pieces said:
Quote:
We heard that Jones had to get the ball downfield more often and they put a lot of emphasis on receivers.

Not true. What we learned from the Giants' four Super Bowl wins is that if you protect the quarterback he can make any set of receivers look good.

The only player who was a highly paid star was Plax.

Parcells: Stephen Baker, Mark Ingram, Lionel Manuel

Coughlin: David Tyree, Hakeem Nicks, Mario Manningham. Victor Cruz

I think all were out of football three years later.


Agree with your point, but Hakeem Nicks, Mario Manningham. Victor Cruz was perhaps the best trio of WRs in the league that year. We don't win if Eli had our WR core last year on that team.
RE: Ummm  
santacruzom : 9/10/2023 10:59 pm : link
In comment 16199305 Bernie said:
Quote:
Not for nothing, but has there been a Thibodeaux sighting? #5 and #7/picks nowhere to be found. Sweet.


Oh, it's been pretty easy to find our #7 pick.
RE: This is more of a beat down  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 10:59 pm : link
In comment 16199306 sb2003 said:
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than the eagles in the playoffs last year. It's mind boggling how horrific this is.


Having that happen and then this is abysmal.
Cpaching staff  
bc4life : 9/10/2023 10:59 pm : link
thought this OL was ready to start the season as is.

Have to question their judgment.
RE: Play the 1s in the preseason  
Stu11 : 9/10/2023 11:00 pm : link
In comment 16198704 State Your Name said:
Quote:
Fucking pussies! Fuck you Joe Shoen you pretty boy fag piece of shit. Ban me .I don’t give a shit. I’ll just rejoin with a dupe again like I did the last six time's. I spend my fucking blood money on this! Fuck you Giants! Fuck you! Fuck you! Fuck you! Fuck you! Fuck you! Have fun banning me mods. Fuck you. Fuck you too. Fuck this whole site. Fuck the New York Giants. Fuck them forever. Fuck the faggot piece of shit owner John Mara. Fuck everybody! I’m out.


But before I go. Forever. Fuck the Cowboys. Fuck them forever. One day we will beat them. One day. And I will be there. I will be there instead of all you fucking faggots sitting on your mother‘s couches. Fuck you too.

Understated post. Needed one more F you though...
RE: is Cowboys DL elite  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/10/2023 11:00 pm : link
In comment 16199310 bc4life said:
Quote:
Eagles okay. But Cowboys not so sure...


Cowboys might have the best defense in the league. A deep pass rush with the best individual pass rusher is a part of that.
Feel bad for the fans who had to spend $ for this  
beatrixkiddo : 9/10/2023 11:00 pm : link
Hopefully they get a voucher for a free Pepsi and some Maggot infested hotdogs should they choose to come back for more suffering.
RE: Ummm  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 11:00 pm : link
In comment 16199305 Bernie said:
Quote:
Not for nothing, but has there been a Thibodeaux sighting? #5 and #7/picks nowhere to be found. Sweet.
Wasn’t there something about his lack of effort this pre-season?
Well, the Giants again live up to their reputaton of being humiliated  
Jack Stroud : 9/10/2023 11:00 pm : link
on national tv. Now you know why Jerrah wants to play they Giants on national tv!
Jones is going to get hurt here.  
Beezer : 9/10/2023 11:00 pm : link
Just wait for it.
And there goes Neal’s replcement  
beatrixkiddo : 9/10/2023 11:01 pm : link
Fuck
One of the worst performances top to bottom  
Rudy5757 : 9/10/2023 11:01 pm : link
I have seen.

I feel bad for Sy to have to write a review. Is it possible to have no Studs and all duds? I think this may be warranted.

Our OL continues to stink. Even Thomas looks bad. Why Jones is out there with 8 mins in this weather is stupid.
NFL Channel  
bc4life : 9/10/2023 11:01 pm : link
This week - guess who's going to the f'n punchline all week.
RE: And there goes Neal’s replcement  
BleedBlue : 9/10/2023 11:01 pm : link
In comment 16199323 beatrixkiddo said:
Quote:
Fuck



Haha legit cannot make this up
Down goes Peart.  
Beezer : 9/10/2023 11:01 pm : link
.
Hope daboll  
46and2Blue : 9/10/2023 11:01 pm : link
Is embarrassed ….
why is Jones even in there?  
gtt350 : 9/10/2023 11:01 pm : link
.
Welp...  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 11:01 pm : link
We saw what Peart was capable of
Jones in game at this  
joeinpa : 9/10/2023 11:02 pm : link
Dabol can be stubborn at times.
RE: RE: And there goes Neal’s replcement  
bluefin : 9/10/2023 11:02 pm : link
In comment 16199326 BleedBlue said:
Quote:
In comment 16199323 beatrixkiddo said:


Quote:


Fuck




Haha legit cannot make this up

He was in for Thomas
Fuckin Peart  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/10/2023 11:02 pm : link
… good God, can we fumigate the fucking Gettleman filth off this team already?
RE: is Cowboys DL elite  
Johnny5 : 9/10/2023 11:02 pm : link
In comment 16199310 bc4life said:
Quote:
Eagles okay. But Cowboys not so sure...

Cowboys defense is talented. Highest pressure rate last year, and Dan Quinn is taking (has taken every fucking game he's coached against us) our coaching staff to school. I posted this about 1000 times in all the prediction threads. I was terrified of this game because I had no confidence in the OL. And here we are. A fucking embarrassment on national TV. Again. I literally want to beat the fuck out of my friends that are Dallas fans (of which I have many). Because they are not going to let me hear the end of this fucking nightmare.
Peart hurt  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 11:02 pm : link
So much for benching Neal. JFC, this game is an unmitigated disaster.
RE: One of the worst performances top to bottom  
cosmicj : 9/10/2023 11:02 pm : link
In comment 16199324 Rudy5757 said:
Quote:
I have seen.

I feel bad for Sy to have to write a review. Is it possible to have no Studs and all duds? I think this may be warranted.

Our OL continues to stink. Even Thomas looks bad. Why Jones is out there with 8 mins in this weather is stupid.


I think McKinney and the Scotsman had good games.
Well tackle is now an emergency.  
D HOS : 9/10/2023 11:02 pm : link
We need another tackle tomorrow.
DJ needs to take a seat  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 11:03 pm : link
Like just send him to the shoers (indoors not outdoors) already, Time to just give up the ghost. He can get hurt now. Dallas is still coming.
RE: You know what hurts me the most  
cpgiants : 9/10/2023 11:03 pm : link
In comment 16199307 blueblood said:
Quote:
tonight was the first night my son wanted to sit down and watch a football game with his dad. He has never been interested in football before.. and this is what we had to watch..

Ive been a Giants fan for 45 plus years.. and I have NEVER been as disgusted with this team as I am tonight.. and its not even losing is them completely embarrassing the hell out of themselves.

Absolutely RUINED what should have been a special father and son evening.


I feel for you. At the end of the day, that hurts more than any loss. Hopefully he sticks with it.
I’m not sure why Tyrod Taylor isn’t handing the ball  
Chris684 : 9/10/2023 11:03 pm : link
off 3 times to Gray or Brightwell here each series.

What the fuck are we trying to accomplish?
Pull Jones already  
Larry in Pencilvania : 9/10/2023 11:03 pm : link
Before we see a nationally televised execution
RE: Peart hurt  
cosmicj : 9/10/2023 11:03 pm : link
In comment 16199338 SomeFan said:
Quote:
So much for benching Neal. JFC, this game is an unmitigated disaster.


All in an absolute downpour.
Now  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 11:03 pm : link
Peart is hurt.
RE: I’m not sure why Tyrod Taylor isn’t handing the ball  
knowledgetimmons : 9/10/2023 11:04 pm : link
In comment 16199343 Chris684 said:
Quote:
off 3 times to Gray or Brightwell here each series.

What the fuck are we trying to accomplish?


Joe judge wants to speak with you
Mike Munchak as OL coach and Joe DeCamillis as ST coach  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 11:04 pm : link
Who's with me?
If I'm Mara I want everyone in the building bright and early  
gtt350 : 9/10/2023 11:04 pm : link
they'll love that
Dide watch most of this half  
thefan : 9/10/2023 11:04 pm : link
Do we have any injuries besides our pride?
RE: Jones in game at this  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 11:04 pm : link
In comment 16199333 joeinpa said:
Quote:
Dabol can be stubborn at times.


He’s a little full of himself sometimes in a Judge-ian, Belichickesque fashion. A friend of mine texted me that they should rescind the Coach of the Year award from him. The Eagles playoff beat down was bad enough. This to start the year in prime time against a division rival?
Exuedu  
wonderback : 9/10/2023 11:04 pm : link
Is playing left tackle?
RE: DJ needs to take a seat  
Bill in UT : 9/10/2023 11:05 pm : link
In comment 16199341 Optimus-NY said:
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Like just send him to the shoers (indoors not outdoors) already, Time to just give up the ghost. He can get hurt now. Dallas is still coming.


If Jones gets hurt, that's totally on Daboll. WTF is he thinking at this point?
Daboll  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 11:05 pm : link
It's true. You either die a hero or live long enough to be a villain
How did Cowboys become elite in one year  
bc4life : 9/10/2023 11:05 pm : link
look at last year's stats
link - ( New Window )
 
christian : 9/10/2023 11:05 pm : link
If Jones blows an Achilles out there in this rain
I had to turn it off after the 2nd interception  
JFIB : 9/10/2023 11:05 pm : link
Just to save myself the anguish. Just checked back in and I’m just crushed that we have just completely crumbled as a team. Where do we go from here? Dabs,Schoen, Neal, Jones , Kayvon? WTF? Where do we go from here?
RE: Exuedu  
mittenedman : 9/10/2023 11:05 pm : link
In comment 16199353 wonderback said:
Quote:
Is playing left tackle?


Thomas is hurt too. Because…of course.
Switch Glowinski and Neal  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 11:05 pm : link
How much worse can it get?
Starting O-linemen are out.  
Beezer : 9/10/2023 11:06 pm : link
But Jones is in.

Being crushed.

Someone explain this to me. Please.
EVAN NEAL AGAIN  
amindan54 : 9/10/2023 11:06 pm : link
wowwww
Glowinski  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 11:06 pm : link
was beaten again.
Jones  
BlueHurricane : 9/10/2023 11:06 pm : link
Should hit every fucking lineman in the nuts with a baseball bat in the locker room.
If Thomas is hurt and it’s a lingering deal  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 11:06 pm : link
Might as well forfeit the season.
wow that pocket  
sb2003 : 9/10/2023 11:06 pm : link
collapsed fast.
.  
ChrisRick : 9/10/2023 11:06 pm : link
Daboll has much to prove. The shine is off.
RE: How did Cowboys become elite in one year  
thefan : 9/10/2023 11:06 pm : link
In comment 16199356 bc4life said:
Quote:
look at last year's stats link - ( New Window )


Are they elite or are they just good and fucking own Mara's asshole.
More like  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 11:06 pm : link
Blowinski
That was a Glowinski  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 11:06 pm : link
special
Ezeudu  
wonderback : 9/10/2023 11:06 pm : link
Spell check
Carl Banks  
HewlettGiant : 9/10/2023 11:06 pm : link
On the Radio...they are laughing (Cowboy fans/coaches)
_____________  
I am Ninja : 9/10/2023 11:07 pm : link
You have to be an absolute psychopath to still be at this game as a Giants fan.
RE: I’m not sure why Tyrod Taylor isn’t handing the ball  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 11:07 pm : link
In comment 16199343 Chris684 said:
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off 3 times to Gray or Brightwell here each series.

What the fuck are we trying to accomplish?


Pride man. To paraphrase Marsellus Wallace, that's pride *uckin' with Daboll.

RE: Carl Banks  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 11:07 pm : link
In comment 16199372 HewlettGiant said:
Quote:
On the Radio...they are laughing (Cowboy fans/coaches)


Duh. I'm surprised they haven't busted their guts yet.
well a few draft threads tomorrow  
gtt350 : 9/10/2023 11:07 pm : link
.
Waaaaait a minute.  
Beezer : 9/10/2023 11:07 pm : link
Did Jones fuck Daboll’s wife??
Daniel Jones  
thefan : 9/10/2023 11:07 pm : link
punching bag.
Bobby Johnson has got to go  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 11:08 pm : link
.
RE: well a few draft threads tomorrow  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/10/2023 11:08 pm : link
In comment 16199376 gtt350 said:
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.


Fuck that. How good do Thibs, Ojulari, and Neal look? Fuck the draft.
Fuck sake.  
Beezer : 9/10/2023 11:08 pm : link
.
Neal  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 11:08 pm : link
and Glowinski are absolutely horrendous. Can't block or pick up simple stunts and twists.
Bench Glowinski and Neal  
nygiants16 : 9/10/2023 11:08 pm : link
for next week, they are not giving Jones a chance
This is just flat out bizarre now  
Sammo85 : 9/10/2023 11:08 pm : link
Like what the hell is going on this quarter.
The entire team  
santacruzom : 9/10/2023 11:08 pm : link
Pulled a Kadarius Toney. How humiliating!
.  
Banks : 9/10/2023 11:09 pm : link
my frickin god
...  
christian : 9/10/2023 11:09 pm : link
WTF is Daboll doing? This is fucking criminal.
Glowinski can be released  
bluefin : 9/10/2023 11:09 pm : link
.
How can these guys not  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 11:09 pm : link
pick up stunts?
clown show  
thefan : 9/10/2023 11:09 pm : link
wow. worse giants game of my life.
Collinsworth says Jones will gain respect.  
Beezer : 9/10/2023 11:09 pm : link
He’s a captain.

How much respect can he gain in rehab?
This  
mittenedman : 9/10/2023 11:09 pm : link
is fascinating incompetence.

Judge 2.0.
RE: Bench Glowinski and Neal  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 11:09 pm : link
In comment 16199384 nygiants16 said:
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for next week, they are not giving Jones a chance


For who? The OL depth behind them are fringe nfl players.
Neals strategy is to let them  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/10/2023 11:09 pm : link
Brutalize Jones and hopefully they will draw a roughing penalty
I hate Glowinski with a passion.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/10/2023 11:09 pm : link
Him and Neal can get lost.
Oh man  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 11:09 pm : link
This is rich.
RE: How can these guys not  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 11:10 pm : link
In comment 16199390 SomeFan said:
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pick up stunts?


Coaching.
I don't think Jones  
sb2003 : 9/10/2023 11:10 pm : link
has ever been shutout.
Does Kadarius  
Beezer : 9/10/2023 11:10 pm : link
re-start his Twitter account?
giants should just be kneeling from her on out  
thefan : 9/10/2023 11:10 pm : link
so we're just going to let DJ keep taking hits?  
D HOS : 9/10/2023 11:10 pm : link
2 out of three snaps... I don't care if DJ insists he stays in. Don't take the risk.
.  
Banks : 9/10/2023 11:10 pm : link
worst game I think I've seen. At least the worst in 20 years
Having Jones still in this game is horrible coaching  
BlueHurricane : 9/10/2023 11:10 pm : link
Daboll is having an awful night.
Daboll has to answer some questions  
JoeFootball : 9/10/2023 11:10 pm : link
about leaving Jones in. This is a complete joke

RE: Does Kadarius  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 11:11 pm : link
In comment 16199400 Beezer said:
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re-start his Twitter account?
this game may be the propellant necessary
RE: I had to turn it off after the 2nd interception  
81_Great_Dane : 9/10/2023 11:11 pm : link
In comment 16199358 JFIB said:
Quote:
Just to save myself the anguish. Just checked back in and I’m just crushed that we have just completely crumbled as a team. Where do we go from here? Dabs,Schoen, Neal, Jones , Kayvon? WTF? Where do we go from here?


Hopefully they get mad and take it out on next week's opponent.

They got punched in the mouth. They got knocked down. Let's see if they get back up and fight.
Sad.  
prdave73 : 9/10/2023 11:11 pm : link
The Cowboys third stringers are better pass rushers then the Giants 1st stringers lol. smdh..
If they play like this  
thrunthrublue : 9/10/2023 11:11 pm : link
0-7 is a reality with the possibility of vegas not even setting a line for them.
There is a time and a place for what Collinsworth is talking about  
Chris684 : 9/10/2023 11:11 pm : link
Tonight ain’t it.

Besides, Jones has some things to prove but toughness ain’t one of them. I’d argue he’s a guy who so tough he needs to be saved from himself at times. Like tonight for example.
.  
ChrisRick : 9/10/2023 11:11 pm : link
This is on the same level maybe worse than anything Judge ever did. Daboll has much better players
Ezeudu in at LT  
Earl the goat : 9/10/2023 11:11 pm : link
Did Thomas get hurt?
RE: Neal is not worse than Flowers..  
Bill in UT : 9/10/2023 11:11 pm : link
In comment 16199193 RAIN said:
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Glowinski is having an equally terrible game. Ezuedu needs to get into the game.

Banks has cramps.


If Ezeudu was any better than the other guards he'd have been starting
RE: .  
HewlettGiant : 9/10/2023 11:12 pm : link
In comment 16199403 Banks said:
Quote:
worst game I think I've seen. At least the worst in 20 years


and that includes a lot of horrible games

The Breida fumble shows you what kind of a night this has been.  
cosmicj : 9/10/2023 11:12 pm : link
Breida is exceptionally good at not fumbling. The downpour must make ball security really difficult,
Banks and Cross are not happy on the NYG radio broadcast.  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 11:12 pm : link
Calling for the Giants to get DJ out of the game. Papa was like, "the Cowboys are playing chess, while the Giants are playing checkers."
RE: .  
BlueHurricane : 9/10/2023 11:12 pm : link
In comment 16199403 Banks said:
Quote:
worst game I think I've seen. At least the worst in 20 years


In such a long list to choose from this is really saying something but I think you are right. This is as bad as anything I’ve seen before.
I thinkk the Giants should go back to  
prdave73 : 9/10/2023 11:13 pm : link
4-3 defense. They are just not good at the 3-4?!
It is incomprehensible  
moespree : 9/10/2023 11:13 pm : link
How in such terrible weather, losing by 40, 4 minutes to go and even Dallas has pulled their starters....you leave your starting QB (and others) in the game.

What the hell? I feel like I'm watching Joe Judge decision making again.
RE: The Breida fumble shows you what kind of a night this has been.  
46and2Blue : 9/10/2023 11:13 pm : link
In comment 16199415 cosmicj said:
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Breida is exceptionally good at not fumbling. The downpour must make ball security really difficult,


Cowboys seemed to handle the rock ok
RE: RE: .  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 11:14 pm : link
In comment 16199417 BlueHurricane said:
Quote:
In comment 16199403 Banks said:


Quote:


worst game I think I've seen. At least the worst in 20 years



In such a long list to choose from this is really saying something but I think you are right. This is as bad as anything I’ve seen before.
the only game close was the Joe Judge Victoria formation game. This seems worse though considering the expectations.
RE: It is incomprehensible  
cosmicj : 9/10/2023 11:14 pm : link
In comment 16199420 moespree said:
Quote:
How in such terrible weather, losing by 40, 4 minutes to go and even Dallas has pulled their starters....you leave your starting QB (and others) in the game.

What the hell? I feel like I'm watching Joe Judge decision making again.


I also hate going for it on 4th and long in these situations.
Welp  
Larry in Pencilvania : 9/10/2023 11:14 pm : link
I can guarantee next year's opener won't be primetime national tv
RE: It is incomprehensible  
NYPanos : 9/10/2023 11:14 pm : link
In comment 16199420 moespree said:
Quote:
How in such terrible weather, losing by 40, 4 minutes to go and even Dallas has pulled their starters....you leave your starting QB (and others) in the game.

What the hell? I feel like I'm watching Joe Judge decision making again.


Maybe he is hoping that DJ will get hurt. Hahahaha
RE: Ezeudu in at LT  
gersh : 9/10/2023 11:15 pm : link
In comment 16199412 Earl the goat said:
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Did Thomas get hurt?


Anyone?
RE: giants should just be kneeling from her on out  
Optimus-NY : 9/10/2023 11:15 pm : link
In comment 16199401 thefan said:
Quote:


Pretty much, lol

RE: Banks and Cross are not happy on the NYG radio broadcast.  
Chocco : 9/10/2023 11:16 pm : link
In comment 16199416 Optimus-NY said:
Quote:
Calling for the Giants to get DJ out of the game. Papa was like, "the Cowboys are playing chess, while the Giants are playing checkers."

Cowboys are playing chess and they Giants are trying to stuff checkers up their nose.
I’ve watched the Giants play a lot of bad games over the years…  
Vinny from Danbury : 9/10/2023 11:16 pm : link
This was another one.
Now we get Taylor.  
Beezer : 9/10/2023 11:17 pm : link
I guess Daboll is waving the white flag now.
Bad games happen  
joeinpa : 9/10/2023 11:18 pm : link
The concerning part of this game is obviously how hapless the offensive line has been

If this is an indication of their abilities, there is no overcoming such a deficiency

But fans who conclude from tonight that there is no hope, don’t understand competition. There are just times when the game, match, whatever overwhelms you.

Season isn’t over, it s just beginning.
RE: Bad games happen  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 11:19 pm : link
In comment 16199431 joeinpa said:
Quote:
The concerning part of this game is obviously how hapless the offensive line has been

If this is an indication of their abilities, there is no overcoming such a deficiency

But fans who conclude from tonight that there is no hope, don’t understand competition. There are just times when the game, match, whatever overwhelms you.

Season isn’t over, it s just beginning.


Could be over next Sunday though.
If only Dallas...  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 11:20 pm : link
had been more concerned with the status of Waller.

One of the more embarrassing discussions ever on BBI...
no f'n excuse  
bc4life : 9/10/2023 11:20 pm : link
for this shit show
In my wildest nightmares  
nygiants16 : 9/10/2023 11:20 pm : link
i dont think i could of predicted this, everything that could go wrong did go wrong, Neal and Glowinski played as bad as you could possibly play, the offense did absokutely nothing..

The blocked field goal seemed to take the wind out of the team and thats unaccapetable...

This was utterly embarrassing and Daboll is a good coach but he needs to sit there and tske all the slings and arrows
I'm pretty sure DJ asked to stay in  
sharp315 : 9/10/2023 11:20 pm : link
He's a captain and he wanted to show the team his heart is in it.
RE: Bad games happen  
NDMedics : 9/10/2023 11:21 pm : link
In comment 16199431 joeinpa said:
Quote:
The concerning part of this game is obviously how hapless the offensive line has been

If this is an indication of their abilities, there is no overcoming such a deficiency

But fans who conclude from tonight that there is no hope, don’t understand competition. There are just times when the game, match, whatever overwhelms you.

Season isn’t over, it s just beginning.


This exactly. Been watching for over 50 years and you are correct sir.
......  
Route 9 : 9/10/2023 11:21 pm : link
What a bunch of little fucking pussies
Ended the game with all three time.outs  
JALAPEN0 : 9/10/2023 11:21 pm : link
Lol
RE: I'm pretty sure DJ asked to stay in  
ChrisRick : 9/10/2023 11:21 pm : link
In comment 16199438 sharp315 said:
Quote:
He's a captain and he wanted to show the team his heart is in it.


Doesn't matter, you sit him down.
RE: Bad games happen  
Johnny5 : 9/10/2023 11:21 pm : link
In comment 16199431 joeinpa said:
Quote:
The concerning part of this game is obviously how hapless the offensive line has been

If this is an indication of their abilities, there is no overcoming such a deficiency

But fans who conclude from tonight that there is no hope, don’t understand competition. There are just times when the game, match, whatever overwhelms you.

Season isn’t over, it s just beginning.

This game sets the tone for the season. Worst game played by any team all weekend on nationally televised stage. I'll be surprised if we win an in division game this season after watching this honestly. We definitely will be 0-4 again vs Dallas and Philly. And I don't see this bag of shitballs beating Washington either.
it's not the loss  
bc4life : 9/10/2023 11:22 pm : link
it's the total lack of making the game competitive and the inexplicable inability to fix the OL or have a respectable defense, season after f'n season
RE: If only Dallas...  
christian : 9/10/2023 11:22 pm : link
In comment 16199434 bw in dc said:
Quote:
had been more concerned with the status of Waller.

One of the more embarrassing discussions ever on BBI...


Daboll showed them.
RE: RE: I'm pretty sure DJ asked to stay in  
beatrixkiddo : 9/10/2023 11:22 pm : link
In comment 16199443 ChrisRick said:
Quote:
In comment 16199438 sharp315 said:


Quote:


He's a captain and he wanted to show the team his heart is in it.



Doesn't matter, you sit him down.


Yeah exactly. That’s just unaccountable coaching.
RE: I'm pretty sure DJ asked to stay in  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 11:22 pm : link
In comment 16199438 sharp315 said:
Quote:
He's a captain and he wanted to show the team his heart is in it.


You're kidding, right?

Jones should have been out after Dallas scored in the third quarter.

Dumbol.
Is Eric even gonna bother with a post game thread...?  
thefan : 9/10/2023 11:23 pm : link
Sadly, the last 10+ years of Giants football have allowed me to develop lots of scar tissue. Losses are much easier to deal with, even ass kickings. What a shit franchise.
.  
ChrisRick : 9/10/2023 11:23 pm : link
This loss is a red flag for Daboll.
RE: You know what hurts me the most  
knowledgetimmons : 9/10/2023 11:23 pm : link
In comment 16199307 blueblood said:
Quote:
tonight was the first night my son wanted to sit down and watch a football game with his dad. He has never been interested in football before.. and this is what we had to watch..

Ive been a Giants fan for 45 plus years.. and I have NEVER been as disgusted with this team as I am tonight.. and its not even losing is them completely embarrassing the hell out of themselves.

Absolutely RUINED what should have been a special father and son evening.


I feel for you. First impressions are hard to shake. Probably switch to a top 5 college team this year for the indoctrination. Gonna be a long season in NJ
Nice stat  
mittenedman : 9/10/2023 11:23 pm : link
Worst opening day loss since CLE returned to the NFL in 1999.
not just pulling DJ  
bc4life : 9/10/2023 11:24 pm : link
move some of the OL around. f'n try something
It was so bad it somehow hurts less  
gersh : 9/10/2023 11:24 pm : link
Like incomprehensible
That  
McNally's_Nuts : 9/10/2023 11:24 pm : link
was a rough watch. Nowhere to go but up!
Have to win next week  
moespree : 9/10/2023 11:24 pm : link
Or 0-3 is likely.
RE: Banks and Cross are not happy on the NYG radio broadcast.  
Bramton1 : 9/10/2023 11:24 pm : link
In comment 16199416 Optimus-NY said:
Quote:
Calling for the Giants to get DJ out of the game. Papa was like, "the Cowboys are playing chess, while the Giants are playing checkers."


Hey, don't knock checkers. Giants were playing rock, paper scissors, only they kept putting out their hand after seeing what the other side did, and still always losing.
To early to be looking forward  
beatrixkiddo : 9/10/2023 11:24 pm : link
To Sy’s 2024 Draft write ups?
RE: .  
mittenedman : 9/10/2023 11:25 pm : link
In comment 16199456 ChrisRick said:
Quote:
This loss is a red flag for Daboll.


So was the Eagles playoff game. I was surprised how quickly it was dismissed. Eagles were the better team but the Giants no show’d.
-  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 11:25 pm : link
NYG had better win next week as the rest of the division could go 2-0. They lose, with a TNF game in SF after that, and you can turn the lights out on 2023.
If Thomas is out for a while, they’re f’ed.
RE: Bad games happen  
Sean : 9/10/2023 11:25 pm : link
In comment 16199431 joeinpa said:
Quote:
The concerning part of this game is obviously how hapless the offensive line has been

If this is an indication of their abilities, there is no overcoming such a deficiency

But fans who conclude from tonight that there is no hope, don’t understand competition. There are just times when the game, match, whatever overwhelms you.

Season isn’t over, it s just beginning.

It's not that there is no hope, but they aren't anywhere near Dallas and Philly. The last two games the Giants were humiliated by each team. It was a really shitty reality check. This team isn't close to Dallas, Philly or SF.

I'd absolutely sign for 3-4. This schedule is brutal.
RE: It was so bad it somehow hurts less  
cosmicj : 9/10/2023 11:25 pm : link
In comment 16199460 gersh said:
Quote:
Like incomprehensible


Feel the same way. I am at a loss.
Schoen on his way to NC  
bluefin : 9/10/2023 11:25 pm : link
to scout his 2024 o-line picks
RE: -  
Sean : 9/10/2023 11:25 pm : link
In comment 16199469 The_Boss said:
Quote:
NYG had better win next week as the rest of the division could go 2-0. They lose, with a TNF game in SF after that, and you can turn the lights out on 2023.
If Thomas is out for a while, they’re f’ed.

Caleb Williams?
Next jackass who utters the phrase "closed the gap"  
David B. : 9/10/2023 11:26 pm : link
about the Giants needs to have his balls kicked into his throat.
RE: RE: You know what hurts me the most  
gersh : 9/10/2023 11:26 pm : link
In comment 16199457 knowledgetimmons said:
Quote:
In comment 16199307 blueblood said:


Quote:


tonight was the first night my son wanted to sit down and watch a football game with his dad. He has never been interested in football before.. and this is what we had to watch..

Ive been a Giants fan for 45 plus years.. and I have NEVER been as disgusted with this team as I am tonight.. and its not even losing is them completely embarrassing the hell out of themselves.

Absolutely RUINED what should have been a special father and son evening.



I feel for you. First impressions are hard to shake. Probably switch to a top 5 college team this year for the indoctrination. Gonna be a long season in NJ

Sorry man
My son is 7 and doesn’t care about football
For me he uses a Giants Lunch bag
I’m waiting for him to tell me tomorrow he took crap for it
RE: That  
beatrixkiddo : 9/10/2023 11:26 pm : link
In comment 16199462 McNally's_Nuts said:
Quote:
was a rough watch. Nowhere to go but up!


This is what everyone here said about Evan Neal from last years performance. If there’s anything you should know over this past decade being a Giant fan is none of us truly know what rock bottom is for this organization honestly.
I forget the year, it may have been as far back as the 90's...  
Milton : 9/10/2023 11:26 pm : link
The Steelers opened the season with two blowout losses, but righted the ship enough to make the playoffs.
RE: RE: That  
McNally's_Nuts : 9/10/2023 11:27 pm : link
In comment 16199479 beatrixkiddo said:
Quote:
In comment 16199462 McNally's_Nuts said:


Quote:


was a rough watch. Nowhere to go but up!



This is what everyone here said about Evan Neal from last years performance. If there’s anything you should know over this past decade being a Giant fan is none of us truly know what rock bottom is for this organization honestly.


Evan Neal will be a good guard next year. He cannot play tackle at the NFL level.
RE: -  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/10/2023 11:28 pm : link
In comment 16199469 The_Boss said:
Quote:
NYG had better win next week as the rest of the division could go 2-0. They lose, with a TNF game in SF after that, and you can turn the lights out on 2023.
If Thomas is out for a while, they’re f’ed.


If they lost next week, they easily could start 0-6
The post game discussion has been cancelled  
gtt350 : 9/10/2023 11:28 pm : link
.
RE: RE: -  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 11:29 pm : link
In comment 16199475 Sean said:
Quote:
In comment 16199469 The_Boss said:


Quote:


NYG had better win next week as the rest of the division could go 2-0. They lose, with a TNF game in SF after that, and you can turn the lights out on 2023.
If Thomas is out for a while, they’re f’ed.


Caleb Williams?


The need is OL, but if they believe deep down in their conscience that Jones really isn’t the answer, as I do, then you have to explore possibilities at that position.
Neal and Thibs are legit concerns  
moespree : 9/10/2023 11:29 pm : link
Neal is obviously far more concerning than Thibs, but Thibs has to pick it up too. He's not playing up to the expectation.

They were picked 5 and 7. It's bad enough to miss on one when you pick that high, you simply can't miss on both when you have two top 10 picks.

Eric’s too upset to start the thread,  
cosmicj : 9/10/2023 11:29 pm : link
Can’t blame him.
RE: RE: - yes  
Modzelewski : 9/10/2023 11:30 pm : link
In comment 16199486 sb from NYT Forum said:
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NYG had better win next week as the rest of the division could go 2-0. They lose, with a TNF game in SF after that, and you can turn the lights out on 2023.
If Thomas is out for a while, they’re f’ed.



If they lost next week, they easily could start 0-6


Suddenly, the schedule looks VERY brutal.
Lets not forget how awful Banks and Hawkins were.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/10/2023 11:30 pm : link
We're in a position where we have to start two rookie CBs all season. Not good at all.
RE: To early to be looking forward  
Festina Lente : 9/10/2023 11:30 pm : link
In comment 16199466 beatrixkiddo said:
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To Sy’s 2024 Draft write ups?

It's never too early. "Copium" is what the kids call it
Glowinski has to get a 2/10  
Festina Lente : 9/10/2023 11:31 pm : link
Grade in this game. Him and neal were absolutely amateur level tonight
RE: RE: Bad games happen  
santacruzom : 9/10/2023 11:34 pm : link
In comment 16199440 NDMedics said:
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The concerning part of this game is obviously how hapless the offensive line has been

If this is an indication of their abilities, there is no overcoming such a deficiency

But fans who conclude from tonight that there is no hope, don’t understand competition. There are just times when the game, match, whatever overwhelms you.

Season isn’t over, it s just beginning.



This exactly. Been watching for over 50 years and you are correct sir.


Exactly. Steelers and Bengals fans don't feel any better than we do and they had high expectations too.

It's a humbling league
I am more disappointed in how ill prepared this team was.  
larryflower37 : 9/10/2023 11:36 pm : link
Every phase of the game was horrible and the coaches looked stunned all game.
The franchise took a step backwards today after all the forward momentum.
It has become an important week not that we need to win next week but how this coaching staff and organization recover.
In the immediate past this would be the beginning of the end and true colors show up.
Hopefully they do and say all the right things and correct the direction.
Kinda a lynch pin moment
RE: RE: -  
FStubbs : 9/10/2023 11:36 pm : link
In comment 16199475 Sean said:
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In comment 16199469 The_Boss said:


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NYG had better win next week as the rest of the division could go 2-0. They lose, with a TNF game in SF after that, and you can turn the lights out on 2023.
If Thomas is out for a while, they’re f’ed.


Caleb Williams?


If we're in position to draft him, that means this team is the worst in football. You fire everybody down to the waterboy.
RE: Neal and Thibs are legit concerns  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/10/2023 11:38 pm : link
In comment 16199497 moespree said:
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Neal is obviously far more concerning than Thibs, but Thibs has to pick it up too. He's not playing up to the expectation.

They were picked 5 and 7. It's bad enough to miss on one when you pick that high, you simply can't miss on both when you have two top 10 picks.


Thibs has only played like a star in national games... I am worried he is living up to his pre-draft negatives... doesn't give 100% effort on every play...
RE: RE: Neal and Thibs are legit concerns  
bw in dc : 9/10/2023 11:55 pm : link
In comment 16199563 sb from NYT Forum said:
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Thibs has only played like a star in national games... I am worried he is living up to his pre-draft negatives... doesn't give 100% effort on every play...


I never liked the selection of Thibs. Good player, but I just don't see where the greatness is. Just too stiff and one dimensional.

Real talk  
Route 9 : 9/11/2023 6:04 am : link
I really need to reevaluate my life if this team is what I have to look forward to in September
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