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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/17/2023 7:17 pm
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VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!!  
Anakim : 9/17/2023 7:18 pm : link
And now we see the severity of Saquon's injury
Season saver most likely  
UConn4523 : 9/17/2023 7:18 pm : link
hope the news in Barkley isn’t too bad
that game was never in doubt!  
markky : 9/17/2023 7:18 pm : link
Let's go Thursday!
Team has me feeling bipolar  
Giantology : 9/17/2023 7:18 pm : link
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if there's a recording of halftime  
islander1 : 9/17/2023 7:18 pm : link
I'd love to hear it. That second half was basically the team most of us expected from the start.
got it done  
RasputinPrime : 9/17/2023 7:18 pm : link
awesome.
Wow  
Rjanyg : 9/17/2023 7:18 pm : link
Just wow
Cardinals played to lose but I ain't complaining  
Anakim : 9/17/2023 7:18 pm : link
We're 1-1
Turns out Saquon and Daniel  
mfsd : 9/17/2023 7:18 pm : link
Have some guts to them after all!!
Daniel  
IchabodGiant : 9/17/2023 7:18 pm : link
F’ing Jones
Better than being 0-2  
ajr2456 : 9/17/2023 7:18 pm : link
Run defense needs to show up.

Hell of a game by Hyatt
What the hell did I just watch?  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 9/17/2023 7:18 pm : link
Did Daboll make a deal with the Devil during halftime or something?
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GP : 9/17/2023 7:18 pm : link
2007 vibes. One can hope.
So Dabs took over play calling  
ZogZerg : 9/17/2023 7:18 pm : link
In the 2nd half?
Barring something in the MNF game  
JT039 : 9/17/2023 7:18 pm : link
We maybe be seeing Jones as NFL player of the week.
Next pre season...  
Paulie Walnuts : 9/17/2023 7:18 pm : link
Methodist!!
we had about a 6% chance off winning  
markky : 9/17/2023 7:18 pm : link
at the half. what a comeback.
I'm eating my words  
jerseyboyLAX : 9/17/2023 7:19 pm : link
from the game thread. Glad to be wrong
How'd the GAME MANAGER do  
rnargi : 9/17/2023 7:19 pm : link
Down 20-0 then 28-7?
That was a super cool game  
CasualFan : 9/17/2023 7:19 pm : link
The change in emotions was remarkable. Pretty memorable.
Nice comeback, the Barkley injury is the big downer  
GFAN52 : 9/17/2023 7:19 pm : link
hope it's not serious.
Where was this first half?  
Gforce11 : 9/17/2023 7:19 pm : link
Was it all on playcalling?
Season saving win  
Sean : 9/17/2023 7:19 pm : link
We can stop comparing Daboll to McAdoo. Jones showed me a ton today. He was incredible in the 2nd half.

Hopefully Barkley doesn't miss extended time.
Whew!!!!!  
Fishmanjim57 : 9/17/2023 7:19 pm : link
That second half was stellar! If that was Daboll making the offensive calls, let it continue on Thursday night in San Fran!
GO BIG BLUE!!!!!!!
Two games  
SomeFan : 9/17/2023 7:19 pm : link
and records being set or 100 year scores being equaled all over the place
Daniel Jones willed it  
jeff57 : 9/17/2023 7:19 pm : link
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Is there any doubt  
Capt. : 9/17/2023 7:19 pm : link
that Daniel Jones is the REAL Deal?????
I cannot get excited about that game  
Hammer : 9/17/2023 7:19 pm : link
AZ is one of the worst teams in the league and they dominated for two and a half quarters.

The Giants are lucky if they win 8 games this year.
Dabol half time speech  
capone : 9/17/2023 7:20 pm : link
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Great comeback  
Don Said : 9/17/2023 7:20 pm : link
First half was brutal, embarrassing.

But they stepped up big time in the second. Credit to Jones and Saquon picking up the load. And nice to see Waller, Hyatt etc making significant contributions.

Lots to work on but enjoy the win all.
Was easy to give up on this team after the first half  
gersh : 9/17/2023 7:20 pm : link
But us seasoned Giant fans know better than to put it in writing.
All those shitting on DJ and Saquon, shame on you 😃
Jones  
Coopcomic : 9/17/2023 7:20 pm : link
...played like a 40M QB.
WHAT A F***ING COMEBACK!  
Geomon : 9/17/2023 7:20 pm : link
I know there are issues. I know Saquon got hurt. But I am enjoying this moment right now!
Amazing Game To See In Person!  
Trainmaster : 9/17/2023 7:20 pm : link
I’m drained !!!
I'm speechless  
sb2003 : 9/17/2023 7:20 pm : link
I honestly don't know what's more remarkable. The absolutely horrendous first 6 quarters of the season or the spectacular last 2.

What a head scratcher to start the season.
That was wild, crazy,  
jpkmets : 9/17/2023 7:20 pm : link
and AWESOME!
What took them so long  
Gman11 : 9/17/2023 7:21 pm : link
to figure out how to play on each side
.  
bluefin : 9/17/2023 7:21 pm : link

BONO IS BACK
Jones came to play.  
rocco8112 : 9/17/2023 7:21 pm : link
Did it with his arm, did it with his legs, did it in the clutch.

Jones can really fly too.
Shout out to the offensive line.  
bceagle05 : 9/17/2023 7:21 pm : link
A couple of bad penalties, but they stepped the fuck up.
Daniel Jones  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/17/2023 7:21 pm : link
was absolutely flawless in the second half

I think we found a right guard
I do think Hyatt  
SomeFan : 9/17/2023 7:21 pm : link
changed the game with that one play that should have been a TD
Daniel Jones played like a stud  
PatersonPlank : 9/17/2023 7:21 pm : link
Led us back to a come from behind win

70% passing, 321 yds passing, 59 yds rushing, 3 total TDs
Jones is now  
George : 9/17/2023 7:21 pm : link
8-1-1 after a loss in his last 10 games. Dude is a gamer.
Amaze  
Stephen in Sofla : 9/17/2023 7:21 pm : link
Amaze, AMAZE!
RE: Daniel Jones willed it  
CasualFan : 9/17/2023 7:21 pm : link
In comment 16209985 jeff57 said:
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He did. He was incredible and he helped give life to this team.
Actually  
Danny L : 9/17/2023 7:21 pm : link
Good game by OL....Both Neal (though 2 late flags) and Ezeudu played really well.

Defense still hasent started the season so it seems.
Ofense finally showed what it can do and what we thought it could.
Im eating my words on Saquon  
Jonesin 4 A Ship : 9/17/2023 7:21 pm : link
he came back tough as did a lot of the players.....let my emotions get to me.
How the fuck  
Jay on the Island : 9/17/2023 7:21 pm : link
Do they go from playing that poorly for the first 6 quarters of the season to that??
Gritty win  
GiantGrit : 9/17/2023 7:22 pm : link
I like grit.
DJ was awesome in the 2nd half.  
Vinny from Danbury : 9/17/2023 7:22 pm : link
What a comeback!!
RE: Dabol half time speech  
jeff57 : 9/17/2023 7:22 pm : link
In comment 16209990 capone said:
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Also  
Sammo85 : 9/17/2023 7:22 pm : link
Do people want to still fire Schoen for Thibs/Neal?

He traded up for Hyatt in the third?
The play calling  
Giantsbigblue : 9/17/2023 7:22 pm : link
Was predictable and quite honestly garbage the first 6 quarters. We can work around the o-line if you can keep the defense off balance. Looks like Daboll took over.
 
ryanmkeane : 9/17/2023 7:23 pm : link
Really hope Barkley can play Thursday
RE: Im eating my words on Saquon  
mfsd : 9/17/2023 7:23 pm : link
In comment 16210013 Jonesin 4 A Ship said:
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he came back tough as did a lot of the players.....let my emotions get to me.


Many of us did. Hats off to him, he showed a lot of guts and played his ass off in the second half
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/17/2023 7:23 pm : link
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Saquon Barkley limped off the field after the game with a big wrap around his right ankle.

Giants play again on Thursday night in San Francisco.
RE: Actually  
RCPhoenix : 9/17/2023 7:23 pm : link
In comment 16210012 Danny L said:
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Good game by OL....Both Neal (though 2 late flags) and Ezeudu played really well.

Defense still hasent started the season so it seems.
Ofense finally showed what it can do and what we thought it could.


The defense showed up when it mattered.

That was wild - too bad Barkley probably won’t be ready by Thursday.
By the way,  
Jonesin 4 A Ship : 9/17/2023 7:23 pm : link
I agree with whoever commented on McKethan. I think that position is his
Is Saquon ok?  
GiantBlue : 9/17/2023 7:23 pm : link
Someone texted me a torn ACL- God I hope not
RE: Daniel Jones played like a stud  
section125 : 9/17/2023 7:23 pm : link
In comment 16210006 PatersonPlank said:
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Led us back to a come from behind win

70% passing, 321 yds passing, 59 yds rushing, 3 total TDs


With all those dops in the 1st half, he finished at 70% completion percentage?
Giants may finish 1-16, but my  
mvftw : 9/17/2023 7:23 pm : link
Survivor Pool Advances. I will not pick them again...lol
RE: RE: Dabol half time speech  
Coopcomic : 9/17/2023 7:23 pm : link
Put that playbook down!!!

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Incredible.  
AcidTest : 9/17/2023 7:23 pm : link
I have seen very few games so cleanly defined by two different halves. Some of that was due as others said to Arizona essentially not trying to do anything on offense by the middle of the fourth quarter. And I do wonder if Daboll didn't start calling the plays in the second half. But the defense got some stops and our playmakers on offense made some plays, especially Hyatt and Waller. Real kudos to Jones and Barkley, who looked like he was seriously hurt on that last drive. For his first start, I thought McKethan played very well. Ezeudu also held up pretty well at LT.



Yeah, Jones was on the money in the  
SomeFan : 9/17/2023 7:23 pm : link
second halfback
RE: Is Saquon ok?  
section125 : 9/17/2023 7:24 pm : link
In comment 16210031 GiantBlue said:
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Someone texted me a torn ACL- God I hope not


Looks like ankle...
Fucking incredible.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/17/2023 7:24 pm : link
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RE: I cannot get excited about that game  
RCPhoenix : 9/17/2023 7:24 pm : link
In comment 16209987 Hammer said:
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AZ is one of the worst teams in the league and they dominated for two and a half quarters.

The Giants are lucky if they win 8 games this year.


You must be really fun at parties
Saquon will be a high ankle sprain  
Chris684 : 9/17/2023 7:24 pm : link
I’d bet a lot of money on it
Largest Giants comeback since 1950 believe it or not  
dpinzow : 9/17/2023 7:24 pm : link
21 point comeback
I'm glad Daboll stepped in when he did because this could have killed  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/17/2023 7:25 pm : link
the season.
RE: I cannot get excited about that game  
NJ-GMenFan : 9/17/2023 7:25 pm : link
In comment 16209987 Hammer said:
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AZ is one of the worst teams in the league and they dominated for two and a half quarters.

The Giants are lucky if they win 8 games this year.



SHUT UP… go root for someone else
no way  
bluepepper : 9/17/2023 7:25 pm : link
should be down 21 to that team but that happens. Even in 86 or 90 you can find games like this. Big thing is they won and are 1-1 and showcased what the offense can look like.
This needs to be said  
k2tampa : 9/17/2023 7:25 pm : link
Was Jones sacked in the second half? I don't think so. With two backups playing, and Glowinski back in at left guard.

Now the worry beside Barkley is Bredeson's concussion. No way he plays Thursday.
Barkley  
Crazed Dogs : 9/17/2023 7:25 pm : link
hurt yet again... crazy game ..very much NYG... they are going to hjave to play a lot better to compete next week
It takes a certain  
Gman11 : 9/17/2023 7:25 pm : link
mindset to go from totally inept to completely dominant. To be able to block out all the negative feelings and come back to win that game shows me something
RE: Is there any doubt  
Ron Johnson : 9/17/2023 7:25 pm : link
In comment 16209986 Capt. said:
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that Daniel Jones is the REAL Deal?????


Check out the game thread. There’s a whole lot of doubt.
RE: RE: Is Saquon ok?  
ajr2456 : 9/17/2023 7:26 pm : link
In comment 16210040 section125 said:
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Someone texted me a torn ACL- God I hope not



Looks like ankle...


Guess it depends on the sprain. Maybe Barkleys reaction was more that he couldn’t finish the game and not because it was a long term injury.
RE: I do think Hyatt  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/17/2023 7:26 pm : link
In comment 16210005 SomeFan said:
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changed the game with that one play that should have been a TD


His other catch was AMAZING.

He needs to play more. Stop with this spread the snaps shit at receiver.
i said in the game thread in the middle of the second or early third q  
LittleBlue : 9/17/2023 7:26 pm : link
the OL looked better meaningfully
RE: Incredible.  
Sammo85 : 9/17/2023 7:26 pm : link
In comment 16210036 AcidTest said:
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I have seen very few games so cleanly defined by two different halves. Some of that was due as others said to Arizona essentially not trying to do anything on offense by the middle of the fourth quarter. And I do wonder if Daboll didn't start calling the plays in the second half. But the defense got some stops and our playmakers on offense made some plays, especially Hyatt and Waller. Real kudos to Jones and Barkley, who looked like he was seriously hurt on that last drive. For his first start, I thought McKethan played very well. Ezeudu also held up pretty well at LT.

Hope they build the confidence and surge up on the win, big test coming against a good D line Thurs.

RE: Is Saquon ok?  
jnoble : 9/17/2023 7:27 pm : link
In comment 16210031 GiantBlue said:
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Someone texted me a torn ACL- God I hope not


It's looking like an ankle
RE: Is there any doubt  
joeinpa : 9/17/2023 7:27 pm : link
In comment 16209986 Capt. said:
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that Daniel Jones is the REAL Deal?????


Not until his next bad play
McKethan the real deal at guard?  
Ben in Tampa : 9/17/2023 7:27 pm : link
49ers will be the real test I suppose
RE: This needs to be said  
ajr2456 : 9/17/2023 7:27 pm : link
In comment 16210055 k2tampa said:
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Was Jones sacked in the second half? I don't think so. With two backups playing, and Glowinski back in at left guard.

Now the worry beside Barkley is Bredeson's concussion. No way he plays Thursday.


The line kind of looked better after he went out. If Thomas is back Ezedu at guard may work fine.
Barkley  
AcidTest : 9/17/2023 7:27 pm : link
had a wrap around his ankle, so hopefully it's not a torn ACL. But a high ankle sprain could cause him to miss a lot of time. My guess is that neither he, Bredeson, or Thomas play Thursday.
If Thomas plays on Thursday  
RCPhoenix : 9/17/2023 7:27 pm : link
Does Ezeudu start at OG?
RE: RE: I do think Hyatt  
dpinzow : 9/17/2023 7:27 pm : link
In comment 16210066 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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changed the game with that one play that should have been a TD



His other catch was AMAZING.

He needs to play more. Stop with this spread the snaps shit at receiver.


Hyatt changed the game. He forced the Cardinals to back off and it opened up a lot of space for Waller in the intermediate passing game
Great job by  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/17/2023 7:27 pm : link
BD taking over. Way to keep fighting. Should be a nice confidence boost for the whole team.

DJ was outstanding in the second half with better play calling.

The D was a little better in the second half but that run D...

Hope SB is okay.
Giants never make it easy  
46and2Blue : 9/17/2023 7:28 pm : link
I wonder what adjustments they made at half past
RE: McKethan the real deal at guard?  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/17/2023 7:28 pm : link
In comment 16210074 Ben in Tampa said:
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49ers will be the real test I suppose


Interested to see how Sy grades him. Be a big boost if he has some potential.
Washington  
AcidTest : 9/17/2023 7:29 pm : link
is about to beat Denver after overcoming an 18 point deficit.
I was mord than a little pissed off around 515 tonight.  
St. Jimmy : 9/17/2023 7:29 pm : link
Amazing turn around. Saved the season there.
RE: McKethan the real deal at guard?  
dpinzow : 9/17/2023 7:30 pm : link
In comment 16210074 Ben in Tampa said:
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49ers will be the real test I suppose


We'll see against that great 49ers DL but McKethan didn't get his name called once today and that's good for an OL
RE: no way  
jvm52106 : 9/17/2023 7:30 pm : link
In comment 16210054 bluepepper said:
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should be down 21 to that team but that happens. Even in 86 or 90 you can find games like this. Big thing is they won and are 1-1 and showcased what the offense can look like.


1986 we were down 17-0 to New Orleans- won that game and SF 17-0 at the half, won that game too..
Amazing how much better Neil was  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/17/2023 7:30 pm : link
playing next to a different right guard. Not perfect, but a lot better.

RE: If Thomas plays on Thursday  
section125 : 9/17/2023 7:30 pm : link
In comment 16210077 RCPhoenix said:
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Does Ezeudu start at OG?


If McKethan played well, he would start at RG. Bredesen is not coming out.
RE: Amaze  
D HOS : 9/17/2023 7:31 pm : link
In comment 16210009 Stephen in Sofla said:
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Amaze, AMAZE!

I get you.
RE: Giants never make it easy  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/17/2023 7:31 pm : link
In comment 16210084 46and2Blue said:
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I wonder what adjustments they made at half past


Quite certain he took over playcalling

RE: Jones is now  
Jim in Fairfax : 9/17/2023 7:31 pm : link
In comment 16210008 George said:
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8-1-1 after a loss in his last 10 games. Dude is a gamer.

So, hopefully they lose next week. No, wait…
RE: RE: If Thomas plays on Thursday  
RCPhoenix : 9/17/2023 7:31 pm : link
In comment 16210094 section125 said:
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Does Ezeudu start at OG?



If McKethan played well, he would start at RG. Bredesen is not coming out.


I’m assuming Bredeson is out on Thursday b/c he’s still be in concussion protocol
RE: if there's a recording of halftime  
DisgruntledNYGfan : 9/17/2023 7:32 pm : link
In comment 16209955 islander1 said:
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I'd love to hear it. That second half was basically the team most of us expected from the start.


Yeah. I was shitting on staff and players up until the last Cards drive. I give credit where it’s due: they earned plaudits for what they did today. The team showed grit and resilience, along with finally playing up to the talent level.

Saquon also left it all out there. He was running violently until he had to go out. I frankly wish he’d make some business decisions on runs where it’s plugged up like that. Getting bent backwards like that can lead to all kinds of different severe injuries.
This team  
David B. : 9/17/2023 7:32 pm : link
is trying to kill me.
RE: RE: RE: If Thomas plays on Thursday  
dpinzow : 9/17/2023 7:32 pm : link
In comment 16210100 RCPhoenix said:
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Does Ezeudu start at OG?



If McKethan played well, he would start at RG. Bredesen is not coming out.



I’m assuming Bredeson is out on Thursday b/c he’s still be in concussion protocol


Yeah, there's no way we see Bredeson until Week 4. Saquon could be a month if that's a high ankle sprain. Thomas probably gives it a go Week 4 with 2 weeks of rest for his hamstring
Daniel Jones & Barkley..  
prdave73 : 9/17/2023 7:33 pm : link
Stop complaining about these two because they are the reason the Giants won! Barkley is hasn't lost it, he is not old news. Stop the madness. They are the best we have on offense! You can expect them to do amazing things without good play-calling and a solid offense line! If the Giants had a great Oline, they would never be in question. smh.
RE: RE: Giants never make it easy  
Blue21 : 9/17/2023 7:35 pm : link
In comment 16210097 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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I wonder what adjustments they made at half past



Quite certain he took over playcalling

Yes
RE: RE: RE: I do think Hyatt  
SomeFan : 9/17/2023 7:35 pm : link
In comment 16210078 dpinzow said:
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changed the game with that one play that should have been a TD



His other catch was AMAZING.

He needs to play more. Stop with this spread the snaps shit at receiver.



Hyatt changed the game. He forced the Cardinals to back off and it opened up a lot of space for Waller in the intermediate passing game
Agree, thought the same thing
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/17/2023 7:36 pm : link
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Daboll says Kafka did a great job.

Dabs didn't say he called plays so it was Kafka.
I expected a 1-1 record at this point… but  
RGhost : 9/17/2023 7:36 pm : link
I haven’t been right about one other thing this season!!

Wow.
I can’t wait for Thursday Night!  
GiantBlue : 9/17/2023 7:36 pm : link
The season started in the second half tonight!
RE: ...  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/17/2023 7:36 pm : link
In comment 16210130 Eric from BBI said:
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Daboll says Kafka did a great job.

Dabs didn't say he called plays so it was Kafka.


There's also no benefit to him to admit that he took over playcalling. We will never know the truth.
Per David Chao  
regischarlotte : 9/17/2023 7:37 pm : link
FWIW:

“By video, appeared to suffer a right high ankle injury when he was rolled up on in a pile - unlikely to play on Thursday in W3 - missed time two seasons ago with right ankle issues - he will get X-rays, which we expect to be negative - 2020 ACL tear was on left side.”
RE: RE: Giants never make it easy  
Rory : 9/17/2023 7:37 pm : link
In comment 16210097 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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I wonder what adjustments they made at half past



Quite certain he took over playcalling



Saw that, and I said the same exact thing
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/17/2023 7:37 pm : link
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What did Brian Daboll tell the team at halftime? "Not a bunch. ... Keep that in-house."
RE: RE: RE: If Thomas plays on Thursday  
section125 : 9/17/2023 7:37 pm : link
In comment 16210100 RCPhoenix said:
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Does Ezeudu start at OG?



If McKethan played well, he would start at RG. Bredesen is not coming out.



I’m assuming Bredeson is out on Thursday b/c he’s still be in concussion protocol


Ok - I was able to see the 2nd half. Who took over for him at LG?
Giants: Here bro, take this game  
j_rud : 9/17/2023 7:38 pm : link
Cards: Screw you man, I don't want this

Great to see the coaching staff we remember from last year.
RE: RE: RE: RE: If Thomas plays on Thursday  
section125 : 9/17/2023 7:38 pm : link
In comment 16210139 section125 said:
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Does Ezeudu start at OG?



If McKethan played well, he would start at RG. Bredesen is not coming out.



I’m assuming Bredeson is out on Thursday b/c he’s still be in concussion protocol



Ok - I was able to see the 2nd half. Who took over for him at LG?


unable....
RE: RE: RE: RE: I do think Hyatt  
dpinzow : 9/17/2023 7:38 pm : link
In comment 16210129 SomeFan said:
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changed the game with that one play that should have been a TD



His other catch was AMAZING.

He needs to play more. Stop with this spread the snaps shit at receiver.



Hyatt changed the game. He forced the Cardinals to back off and it opened up a lot of space for Waller in the intermediate passing game

Agree, thought the same thing


When you have a deep threat defenses have to bring a safety over the top so that is one less defender in the intermediate zone to defend the passing game
RE: How'd the GAME MANAGER do  
j_rud : 9/17/2023 7:38 pm : link
In comment 16209974 rnargi said:
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Down 20-0 then 28-7?


Don't even try to reason with them.
RE: RE: RE: RE: If Thomas plays on Thursday  
AcidTest : 9/17/2023 7:39 pm : link
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Does Ezeudu start at OG?



If McKethan played well, he would start at RG. Bredesen is not coming out.



I’m assuming Bredeson is out on Thursday b/c he’s still be in concussion protocol



Ok - I was able to see the 2nd half. Who took over for him at LG?


Glowinski.
Hyatt changes the game  
ajr2456 : 9/17/2023 7:39 pm : link
He’s not Odell but it’s a threat we haven’t had since. He’s got speed, good wr instincts, and hands.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: If Thomas plays on Thursday  
j_rud : 9/17/2023 7:40 pm : link
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Does Ezeudu start at OG?



If McKethan played well, he would start at RG. Bredesen is not coming out.



I’m assuming Bredeson is out on Thursday b/c he’s still be in concussion protocol



Ok - I was able to see the 2nd half. Who took over for him at LG?



unable....


Glowinski. Who immediately blew up a drive on a Barkley run. Fared better the rest of the way tho.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: If Thomas plays on Thursday  
section125 : 9/17/2023 7:40 pm : link
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Does Ezeudu start at OG?



If McKethan played well, he would start at RG. Bredesen is not coming out.



I’m assuming Bredeson is out on Thursday b/c he’s still be in concussion protocol



Ok - I was able to see the 2nd half. Who took over for him at LG?



Glowinski.


Damn...well good thing they moved him around pre-season.
Waller has to stop doing the mic drop with the ball...  
jnoble : 9/17/2023 7:41 pm : link
After he makes a play. I keep expecting a flag for taunting every time
RE: Waller has to stop doing the mic drop with the ball...  
AcidTest : 9/17/2023 7:42 pm : link
In comment 16210160 jnoble said:
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After he makes a play. I keep expecting a flag for taunting every time


Agreed.
Tough game in SF but  
EdS56 : 9/17/2023 7:42 pm : link
winnable. Looks like high ankle for Barkley so
4 games at least. Time to get inventive.
RE: ...  
RCPhoenix : 9/17/2023 7:43 pm : link
In comment 16210138 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
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What did Brian Daboll tell the team at halftime? "Not a bunch. ... Keep that in-house."


He’s a good liar. He lit them up something good at halftime.
RE: Barkley  
MotownGIANTS : 9/17/2023 7:43 pm : link
In comment 16210076 AcidTest said:
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had a wrap around his ankle, so hopefully it's not a torn ACL. But a high ankle sprain could cause him to miss a lot of time. My guess is that neither he, Bredeson, or Thomas play Thursday.



Looked like he mouthed "not again ..." so whatever it is seems like he is initially worried about it taking some time based off his past experience.
RE: RE: ...  
mfsd : 9/17/2023 7:43 pm : link
In comment 16210134 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
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Daboll says Kafka did a great job.

Dabs didn't say he called plays so it was Kafka.



There's also no benefit to him to admit that he took over playcalling. We will never know the truth.


Yup I suspect he may also be saying that to avoid a week’s worth of questions about it
HOLY SHIT  
GruningsOnTheHill : 9/17/2023 7:44 pm : link
is anyone watching the Broncos/WAS?
Kudos  
Simms : 9/17/2023 7:45 pm : link
Have to give them their due mental toughness I didn't expect.
WOW.  
AcidTest : 9/17/2023 7:45 pm : link
Denver just scored on a Hail Mary on the last play of the game, but they don't get the two point conversion to tie.
RE: RE: RE: I do think Hyatt  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/17/2023 7:45 pm : link
In comment 16210078 dpinzow said:
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changed the game with that one play that should have been a TD



His other catch was AMAZING.

He needs to play more. Stop with this spread the snaps shit at receiver.



Hyatt changed the game. He forced the Cardinals to back off and it opened up a lot of space for Waller in the intermediate passing game


Hyatt is so sneaky-fast, he just glides, it doesn't even look like he is burning... next thing you know he has 3+ yards on his man
RE: WOW.  
dpinzow : 9/17/2023 7:45 pm : link
In comment 16210176 AcidTest said:
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Denver just scored on a Hail Mary on the last play of the game, but they don't get the two point conversion to tie.


That was clear as day pass interference on the 2 point try too and they didn't call it!
RE: This team  
Ira : 9/17/2023 7:46 pm : link
In comment 16210109 David B. said:
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is trying to kill me.


It's not only you.
RE: RE: WOW.  
section125 : 9/17/2023 7:46 pm : link
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Denver just scored on a Hail Mary on the last play of the game, but they don't get the two point conversion to tie.



That was clear as day pass interference on the 2 point try too and they didn't call it!


Pulled on the left shoulder...poor job there.
Looked  
AcidTest : 9/17/2023 7:46 pm : link
like PI by the Commanders defender on the two point conversion, but Holmes wasn't called for even more obvious PI against Washington in the end zone last season.
Only 2 weeks in  
Danny Kanell : 9/17/2023 7:47 pm : link
And I’m already worn out!
...  
christian : 9/17/2023 7:50 pm : link
Fantastic combination of deep shots and YAC in the passing game.

The Giants seemingly have entered the 21st century on offense.
RE: Waller has to stop doing the mic drop with the ball...  
DefenseWins : 9/17/2023 7:50 pm : link
In comment 16210160 jnoble said:
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After he makes a play. I keep expecting a flag for taunting every time


Thank you.. I was thinking that this guy for some reason has to do some stupid thing after each simple catch.

Waller... please act like you have been there before.
Kafka might have lost play calling duties  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 9/17/2023 7:52 pm : link

And I'd be all for it. That 31 point, second half offense is what I'm here to see.
What to do with Ezeudu?  
Chris684 : 9/17/2023 7:54 pm : link
Has he earned the swing Tackle job? Or do we feel this gives him a chance at the LG spot?

Leave McKethan alone next to Neal.
..  
ryanmkeane : 9/17/2023 7:54 pm : link
If the OL can fucking block, the intermediate to Waller and deep stuff to Hyatt and Slayton will be there every week
RE: ...  
dpinzow : 9/17/2023 7:55 pm : link
In comment 16210203 christian said:
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Fantastic combination of deep shots and YAC in the passing game.

The Giants seemingly have entered the 21st century on offense.


Better OL protection is the keystone to all of that. The modern offensive playcalling is there but is still useless without a good OL and the OL played well in the 2nd half
RE: Kafka might have lost play calling duties  
jnoble : 9/17/2023 7:55 pm : link
In comment 16210211 Tim in Eternal Blue said:
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And I'd be all for it. That 31 point, second half offense is what I'm here to see.


Nah. I highly doubt it. Not this soon on a season
RE: ..  
RCPhoenix : 9/17/2023 7:56 pm : link
In comment 16210217 ryanmkeane said:
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If the OL can fucking block, the intermediate to Waller and deep stuff to Hyatt and Slayton will be there every week


This - it all depends on the OL.
RE: ...  
giantstock : 9/17/2023 7:56 pm : link
In comment 16210203 christian said:
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Fantastic combination of deep shots and YAC in the passing game.

The Giants seemingly have entered the 21st century on offense.


You mnissed the game vs Minny in playoffs last year?
I am kinda hoping that the OL injuries...  
BillKo : 9/17/2023 7:57 pm : link
.....are showing Daboll that guys he has as originally as backups can actually be better and can give us more than the originally pegged starters.

I still think this thing is going to be an uphill battle all year due to the schedule and our team just not being there yet, but we'll see how the team jells.

Very disappointed in the overall start despite the great comeback win today.


FYI, the 49ers  
section125 : 9/17/2023 7:57 pm : link
beat the Rams by 1 td - 30-23....
Why isn’t  
HoodieGelo : 9/17/2023 7:58 pm : link
Hyatt a starter? Get that dude playing time please
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/17/2023 7:59 pm : link
Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
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Would characterize Saquon Barkley’s demeanor as down or despondent. Not clear what exactly the X-rays showed, but his face told the story that it’s not good #giants
RE: FYI, the 49ers  
BillKo : 9/17/2023 8:00 pm : link
In comment 16210229 section125 said:
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beat the Rams by 1 td - 30-23....


We will see how that goes. They have the short week too and really won't benefit from any travel by us since we are staying out there. Plus, they had to play hard until the end.

I think we could keep it close, we'll see. Every game is different.
RE: ...  
section125 : 9/17/2023 8:00 pm : link
In comment 16210237 Eric from BBI said:
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Would characterize Saquon Barkley’s demeanor as down or despondent. Not clear what exactly the X-rays showed, but his face told the story that it’s not good #giants


The ice machine will be worn out...
RE: RE: ...  
christian : 9/17/2023 8:01 pm : link
In comment 16210222 dpinzow said:
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Fantastic combination of deep shots and YAC in the passing game.

The Giants seemingly have entered the 21st century on offense.



Better OL protection is the keystone to all of that. The modern offensive playcalling is there but is still useless without a good OL and the OL played well in the 2nd half


Of course, I couldn't agree more.

Although, Jones made a number of nice plays leaving the pocket and buying himself time.
A few thoughts  
Matt M. : 9/17/2023 8:01 pm : link
1) That team in the 2nd half is the team I expected the first 6 quarters.

2) That comeback, even in week 2, salvaged the season...at least for now.

3) Speculation that the 1st half they were trying to hard to protect the young OL. Let it fly in the 2nd half

4) Hyatt needs to be on the field A LOT MORE
Did anyone see Leonard Williams  
M.S. : 9/17/2023 8:02 pm : link

Today?
RE: What the hell did I just watch?  
M.S. : 9/17/2023 8:03 pm : link
In comment 16209965 Gary from The East End said:
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Did Daboll make a deal with the Devil during halftime or something?

Who let you in on the secret?
Ez, McK, Neal, and JMS  
Joe Beckwith : 9/17/2023 8:03 pm : link
will be tested Thursday night….and that’s a good thing because I expect we go with 3 of those young guys and AT the old man ,when he comes back, the rest of the season.
The 2nd half  
DieHard : 9/17/2023 8:03 pm : link
was a very Bills-esque showing by the offense, (no surprise given Daboll taking playcalling reins). Losing Barkley hurts, but if the rejiggered OL can hold up, we can do some damage.

Glad the defense stepped up near the end, but they're the unit I'm most concerned about right now. A similar performance vs the 49ers/Dolphins/Bills gives us zero margin for error.
Just got back from the bar...  
bw in dc : 9/17/2023 8:03 pm : link
Today was a perfect example why you want a dual threat QB.

Jones was tremendous in the second half.
Offense  
stretch234 : 9/17/2023 8:04 pm : link
2nd half

5 drives
42 plays
350 yards
4 TDs/ 1 FG
RE: Barkley  
joeinpa : 9/17/2023 8:07 pm : link
In comment 16210057 Crazed Dogs said:
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hurt yet again... crazy game ..very much NYG... they are going to hjave to play a lot better to compete next week


Not really, 31-8 is pretty dominating. I think we need to look at this as what it was, two separate halves

Surely you can see the way they played in the second half is good enough to win a lot of games
Get these guys  
Carson53 : 9/17/2023 8:08 pm : link
some Five Hour Energy drinks or something about 5 minutes before they come on the field...they always snooze thru the first quarter of a game, unbelieveable.
Speaking of Barkley  
Carson53 : 9/17/2023 8:10 pm : link
seeing how frustrated he was throwing his helmet on the sideline, will be surprised if he plays on a short week.
Not sure if mentioned but Slayton deserves a tip of the hat  
j_rud : 9/17/2023 8:10 pm : link
Several tough grabs and nearly an incredible catch at the pylon. Hands don't seem to be an issue.
 
ryanmkeane : 9/17/2023 8:10 pm : link
I imagine DJ gets the player of the week, considering the INT is not on him
RE: Not sure if mentioned but Slayton deserves a tip of the hat  
ryanmkeane : 9/17/2023 8:11 pm : link
In comment 16210295 j_rud said:
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Several tough grabs and nearly an incredible catch at the pylon. Hands don't seem to be an issue.

Definitely, great grab on the final drive
RE: Tough game in SF but  
k2tampa : 9/17/2023 8:11 pm : link
In comment 16210166 EdS56 said:
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winnable. Looks like high ankle for Barkley so
4 games at least. Time to get inventive.


Looked like the ankle went inside rather than rolling to the outside. Those take time.
RE: Not sure if mentioned but Slayton deserves a tip of the hat  
BillKo : 9/17/2023 8:12 pm : link
In comment 16210295 j_rud said:
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Several tough grabs and nearly an incredible catch at the pylon. Hands don't seem to be an issue.


His catch on the last drive was superb.

I'd like to see him high point that ball that was a tad underthrown in the first half down the far sideline.
RE: RE: Not sure if mentioned but Slayton deserves a tip of the hat  
rnargi : 9/17/2023 8:12 pm : link
In comment 16210299 ryanmkeane said:
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Several tough grabs and nearly an incredible catch at the pylon. Hands don't seem to be an issue.


Definitely, great grab on the final drive


I thought a shin down was in...and that sure looked like his shin was in.
RE: Not sure if mentioned but Slayton deserves a tip of the hat  
cosmicj : 9/17/2023 8:13 pm : link
In comment 16210295 j_rud said:
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Several tough grabs and nearly an incredible catch at the pylon. Hands don't seem to be an issue.


I thought Slayton was terrific. That catch over the middle in the 4th quarter was a big play and a difficult one to make.

Havent seen anyone talk about it but Hodgins’ body control to catch that laser from DJ in the end zone was great. Not an easy catch to make.
RE: Speaking of Barkley  
dpinzow : 9/17/2023 8:13 pm : link
In comment 16210293 Carson53 said:
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seeing how frustrated he was throwing his helmet on the sideline, will be surprised if he plays on a short week.


I'd be surprised if we saw him anytime before Week 7
RE: Did anyone see Leonard Williams  
mfsd : 9/17/2023 8:13 pm : link
In comment 16210254 M.S. said:
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Today?


Who?

Joking of course, but haven’t seen much of him. Dex did finally crank it up in the second half
RE: Speaking of Barkley  
GFAN52 : 9/17/2023 8:13 pm : link
In comment 16210293 Carson53 said:
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seeing how frustrated he was throwing his helmet on the sideline, will be surprised if he plays on a short week.


Yep, it's pretty doubtful he could play on a short week. I just hope it's not a long-term injury or even worse.
 
ryanmkeane : 9/17/2023 8:14 pm : link
The TD to Hodgins is why you pay Jones. Pretty much the only window that existed on that throw.
RE: RE: Speaking of Barkley  
mfsd : 9/17/2023 8:14 pm : link
In comment 16210316 dpinzow said:
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seeing how frustrated he was throwing his helmet on the sideline, will be surprised if he plays on a short week.



I'd be surprised if we saw him anytime before Week 7


Yup this feels like the dreaded high ankle sprain/4-6 week recovery
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/17/2023 8:15 pm : link
Charlotte Carroll
@charlottecrrll
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Andrew Thomas on hamstring injury: “I’m feeling good. It’s definitely progressing. It’s tough without going full speed in the game to know but I think it’s progressing”
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/17/2023 8:15 pm : link
Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
Saquon Barkley had an x-ray on his right ankle after the game. He limped around the locker room and it was a bit swollen. Clearly he had some pain and discomfort.

This is definitely a concern for the Giants and Barkley moving forward, especially with a short turnaround this week but also for the long-term prospects of the team. A damper on a dramatic win. #giants
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/17/2023 8:16 pm : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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Saquon Barkley went for Xrays om his ankle after the game. He was in the locker room, almost despondent, which stuck out amid the jubilation. Did not do am interview. #Giants
RE: ...  
dpinzow : 9/17/2023 8:17 pm : link
In comment 16210330 Eric from BBI said:
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Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
Saquon Barkley had an x-ray on his right ankle after the game. He limped around the locker room and it was a bit swollen. Clearly he had some pain and discomfort.

This is definitely a concern for the Giants and Barkley moving forward, especially with a short turnaround this week but also for the long-term prospects of the team. A damper on a dramatic win. #giants


Time for Eric Gray to show he's the goods.

The other thing this does is it likely puts almost everything on Jones because one of the other RBs breaking out is unlikely. Hoping against hope that Gray is the goods
RE: Not sure if mentioned but Slayton deserves a tip of the hat  
ajr2456 : 9/17/2023 8:18 pm : link
In comment 16210295 j_rud said:
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Several tough grabs and nearly an incredible catch at the pylon. Hands don't seem to be an issue.


Slayton looked more like rookie year Slayton than what we saw the last couple of years
Looking forward to SY’s game review  
WillVAB : 9/17/2023 8:20 pm : link
Where he blows Barkley and gives back handed compliments to Jones so he can stay on brand with his draft grades.
RE: RE: ...  
RCPhoenix : 9/17/2023 8:20 pm : link
In comment 16210338 dpinzow said:
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Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
Saquon Barkley had an x-ray on his right ankle after the game. He limped around the locker room and it was a bit swollen. Clearly he had some pain and discomfort.

This is definitely a concern for the Giants and Barkley moving forward, especially with a short turnaround this week but also for the long-term prospects of the team. A damper on a dramatic win. #giants



Time for Eric Gray to show he's the goods.

The other thing this does is it likely puts almost everything on Jones because one of the other RBs breaking out is unlikely. Hoping against hope that Gray is the goods


Everything on offense is already on Jones.
RE: RE: Not sure if mentioned but Slayton deserves a tip of the hat  
eli4life : 9/17/2023 8:21 pm : link
In comment 16210314 cosmicj said:
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In comment 16210295 j_rud said:


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Several tough grabs and nearly an incredible catch at the pylon. Hands don't seem to be an issue.



I thought Slayton was terrific. That catch over the middle in the 4th quarter was a big play and a difficult one to make.

Havent seen anyone talk about it but Hodgins’ body control to catch that laser from DJ in the end zone was great. Not an easy catch to make.

I don’t recall that being the problem with him I thought it was the layups he bumbles
RE: Hyatt changes the game  
Brick72 : 9/17/2023 8:22 pm : link
In comment 16210150 ajr2456 said:
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He’s not Odell but it’s a threat we haven’t had since. He’s got speed, good wr instincts, and hands.

He has very good hands and tracks the ball well. So far he's had to slow down to catch the ball. When Jones learns to lead him better some of those will become home run balls. At that point he completely changes the defensive coverage over the top, and Slayton seems to be playing in a higher gear also. If they keep it up and refine it, the middle/underneath become a Waller/Bellinger/Shep/Campbell danger zone for the defense.
RE: RE: Hyatt changes the game  
section125 : 9/17/2023 8:28 pm : link
In comment 16210365 Brick72 said:
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He’s not Odell but it’s a threat we haven’t had since. He’s got speed, good wr instincts, and hands.


He has very good hands and tracks the ball well. So far he's had to slow down to catch the ball. When Jones learns to lead him better some of those will become home run balls. At that point he completely changes the defensive coverage over the top, and Slayton seems to be playing in a higher gear also. If they keep it up and refine it, the middle/underneath become a Waller/Bellinger/Shep/Campbell danger zone for the defense.


Jones doesn't seem to just let it fly. Seems to try to be perfect and not let the WRs just run under it.
RE: Just got back from the bar...  
Spider56 : 9/17/2023 8:32 pm : link
In comment 16210263 bw in dc said:
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Today was a perfect example why you want a dual threat QB.

Jones was tremendous in the second half.


I thought for sure you were going to say ‘today was a perfect example of why we drink’
RE: Looking forward to SY’s game review  
BillKo : 9/17/2023 8:34 pm : link
In comment 16210355 WillVAB said:
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Where he blows Barkley and gives back handed compliments to Jones so he can stay on brand with his draft grades.


LOL, nearly spit up my beer on this one....!!!
RE: ...  
Optimus-NY : 9/17/2023 8:34 pm : link
In comment 16210237 Eric from BBI said:
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Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
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Would characterize Saquon Barkley’s demeanor as down or despondent. Not clear what exactly the X-rays showed, but his face told the story that it’s not good #giants


That's what has me worried :-(
RE: Speaking of Barkley  
Optimus-NY : 9/17/2023 8:36 pm : link
In comment 16210293 Carson53 said:
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seeing how frustrated he was throwing his helmet on the sideline, will be surprised if he plays on a short week.


I'd be happy if we saw him again this season.
just realized........  
BillKo : 9/17/2023 8:36 pm : link
...remember when we couldn't score 30 in a game?

Now we did it in a half!!!!
general question about SB....  
BillKo : 9/17/2023 8:37 pm : link
...why on the play before his injury did he go down behind the LOS for like a three yard loss.

I thought that really was not a smart play.
What a game  
AcesUp : 9/17/2023 8:39 pm : link
It felt like the season was on the line every drive of the second half was relieved when it was over. We experienced the Daniel Jones floor game in the first half and the Daniel Jones ceiling game in the second half.

You can see from the broadcast that they were playing that shallow 2 high and just crashing down on our short passing game. Jones either didn’t take or missed a couple shots in the first half and that Hyatt bomb changed everything. Need more of that regardless of the OL issues. Gotta trust Jones to either buy time or take the sack when things break down. Continue to deprogram him from the Jason Garrett brainwashing, get it through to him that the light is green.
RE: general question about SB....  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/17/2023 8:40 pm : link
In comment 16210436 BillKo said:
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...why on the play before his injury did he go down behind the LOS for like a three yard loss.

I thought that really was not a smart play.


You're playing for clock time. They were kicking the FG the whole time, not trying to advance the ball.
A win is a win  
US1 Giants : 9/17/2023 8:40 pm : link
but I am not very happy with it. The Cardinals are probably the worst team in the league. The excitement of this win will mask many problems.
Barkley  
WillVAB : 9/17/2023 8:40 pm : link
Thank God the FO didn’t puss out and give him a McAffrey contract. Unfortunate he got hurt, but he gets hurt every year which is why you don’t give him a long term contract.
RE: RE: general question about SB....  
BillKo : 9/17/2023 8:41 pm : link
In comment 16210452 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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...why on the play before his injury did he go down behind the LOS for like a three yard loss.

I thought that really was not a smart play.



You're playing for clock time. They were kicking the FG the whole time, not trying to advance the ball.


Well if that's the point, why did we run hard on the next two plays? LOL

My point, it was a dumb play. You run it for positive yardage and make them use their time out. You don't go backwards.
RE: RE: Looking forward to SY’s game review  
Optimus-NY : 9/17/2023 8:41 pm : link
In comment 16210415 BillKo said:
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In comment 16210355 WillVAB said:


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Where he blows Barkley and gives back handed compliments to Jones so he can stay on brand with his draft grades.



LOL, nearly spit up my beer on this one....!!!


People are about to learn  
OBJ_AllDay : 9/17/2023 8:42 pm : link
That running backs not named saquon Barkley occasionally fumble… I feel bad for him such a shit hand with his injury luck. Never had the chance to show who he was at PSU
RE: A win is a win  
RCPhoenix : 9/17/2023 8:43 pm : link
In comment 16210453 US1 Giants said:
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but I am not very happy with it. The Cardinals are probably the worst team in the league. The excitement of this win will mask many problems.


If you aren’t happy about coming back from the dead I don’t know what you would be happy about.

Also - are the Cards the worst team in the NFL? I’m not so sure.
RE: RE: Looking forward to SY’s game review  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/17/2023 8:44 pm : link
In comment 16210415 BillKo said:
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In comment 16210355 WillVAB said:


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Where he blows Barkley and gives back handed compliments to Jones so he can stay on brand with his draft grades.



LOL, nearly spit up my beer on this one....!!!


Lol I love Sy...seemed like our luck changed when he called Daboll McAdoo 2.0
RE: People are about to learn  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/17/2023 8:45 pm : link
In comment 16210469 OBJ_AllDay said:
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That running backs not named saquon Barkley occasionally fumble… I feel bad for him such a shit hand with his injury luck. Never had the chance to show who he was at PSU


Do they drop the ball into opponents hands every game too?
RE: Looked  
BigBlueShock : 9/17/2023 8:45 pm : link
In comment 16210190 AcidTest said:
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like PI by the Commanders defender on the two point conversion, but Holmes wasn't called for even more obvious PI against Washington in the end zone last season.

Wtf? So your point is that since Holmes got away with one last season Washington is forever given the benefit of doubt? What the hell does Holmes have to do with the play from today? So, every interference call from now until eternity you’re going to bring up a play from last season? You’re trying too hard, bruh
RE: RE: RE: Looking forward to SY’s game review  
BillKo : 9/17/2023 8:45 pm : link
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Where he blows Barkley and gives back handed compliments to Jones so he can stay on brand with his draft grades.



LOL, nearly spit up my beer on this one....!!!



Lol I love Sy...seemed like our luck changed when he called Daboll McAdoo 2.0


Did he really write that? I read the reviews occasionally, but wow, that's a bit of an early tag.
Well, the 2017 and 2021 vibes have sure gone away.  
cosmicj : 9/17/2023 8:45 pm : link
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RE: What a game  
section125 : 9/17/2023 8:47 pm : link
In comment 16210446 AcesUp said:
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It felt like the season was on the line every drive of the second half was relieved when it was over. We experienced the Daniel Jones floor game in the first half and the Daniel Jones ceiling game in the second half.



Again, Jones' "floor in the 1st half" included 6 drops - 6 drops. The INT was right through Barkley's hands. If you want to shit on Jones for the 1st half, your next sentence must include all the drops.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Looking forward to SY’s game review  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/17/2023 8:48 pm : link
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Where he blows Barkley and gives back handed compliments to Jones so he can stay on brand with his draft grades.



LOL, nearly spit up my beer on this one....!!!



Lol I love Sy...seemed like our luck changed when he called Daboll McAdoo 2.0



Did he really write that? I read the reviews occasionally, but wow, that's a bit of an early tag.


He did lol. I'd recommend you give him a follow on X
RE: RE: RE: general question about SB....  
BillKo : 9/17/2023 8:52 pm : link
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...why on the play before his injury did he go down behind the LOS for like a three yard loss.

I thought that really was not a smart play.



You're playing for clock time. They were kicking the FG the whole time, not trying to advance the ball.



Well if that's the point, why did we run hard on the next two plays? LOL

My point, it was a dumb play. You run it for positive yardage and make them use their time out. You don't go backwards.


In fact, I bet Daboll probably got word to SB from the sideline to run that ball up in there like you mean it....and then of course he got hurt on 2nd down.

And Breida's run was actually quite nice considering the Cards were waiting for it on third down.........
RE: RE: RE: Looking forward to SY’s game review  
BigBlueShock : 9/17/2023 8:53 pm : link
In comment 16210477 Thunderstruck27 said:
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Where he blows Barkley and gives back handed compliments to Jones so he can stay on brand with his draft grades.



LOL, nearly spit up my beer on this one....!!!



Lol I love Sy...seemed like our luck changed when he called Daboll McAdoo 2.0

You have got to be shitting me. Sy said that? I’m not buying it. That’s got to be bullshit.
RE: RE: Looked  
AcidTest : 9/17/2023 8:53 pm : link
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like PI by the Commanders defender on the two point conversion, but Holmes wasn't called for even more obvious PI against Washington in the end zone last season.


Wtf? So your point is that since Holmes got away with one last season Washington is forever given the benefit of doubt? What the hell does Holmes have to do with the play from today? So, every interference call from now until eternity you’re going to bring up a play from last season? You’re trying too hard, bruh


No, not forever, and not even again. Just saying last year they had one against their receiver in the end zone that wasn't called, and today their defender in the same situation wasn't called. The explanation for both "non-calls" is likely that the officials are at least a little more reluctant to throw a flag in those situations. But both plays were penalties IMO.
Arizona played well.....and than the Giants played inspired  
George from PA : 9/17/2023 8:54 pm : link
....losing Barkley sucks, especially on the 2nd to last play of the offense


The key is the OL...SF will let us know if OL turned the corner....
RE: RE: RE: RE: Looking forward to SY’s game review  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/17/2023 8:55 pm : link
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Where he blows Barkley and gives back handed compliments to Jones so he can stay on brand with his draft grades.



LOL, nearly spit up my beer on this one....!!!



Lol I love Sy...seemed like our luck changed when he called Daboll McAdoo 2.0


You have got to be shitting me. Sy said that? I’m not buying it. That’s got to be bullshit.


Lol wanna bet?
Sy asked the question  
10thAve : 9/17/2023 8:59 pm : link
It doesn’t read to me that he actually called him McAdoo 2.0. There is more context around it in both of his tweets.
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RE: RE: This needs to be said  
Tom in NY : 9/17/2023 8:59 pm : link
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Was Jones sacked in the second half? I don't think so. With two backups playing, and Glowinski back in at left guard.

Now the worry beside Barkley is Bredeson's concussion. No way he plays Thursday.



The line kind of looked better after he went out. If Thomas is back Ezedu at guard may work fine.


Glowinski missed 3 blocks in his first 4 plays....literally no hitters. He needs to stay on the bench. Hopefully Bredeson only misses 1 game and Ezeudo takes over on Thursday with Thomas returning to LT.
is it lemueix time?  
amindan54 : 9/17/2023 8:59 pm : link
can we try peart at G?
 
ryanmkeane : 9/17/2023 9:03 pm : link
Any comment about Daboll/Schoen or comparisons to McAdoo after 6 bad quarters of football is just wasted breath.

This game is the same reason we need to let the season play out before rushing to any dumb judgements.

Can’t wait to review the game thread tomorrow.
RE: RE: What a game  
AcesUp : 9/17/2023 9:04 pm : link
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It felt like the season was on the line every drive of the second half was relieved when it was over. We experienced the Daniel Jones floor game in the first half and the Daniel Jones ceiling game in the second half.





Again, Jones' "floor in the 1st half" included 6 drops - 6 drops. The INT was right through Barkley's hands. If you want to shit on Jones for the 1st half, your next sentence must include all the drops.


Didn’t take a shot that was there, missed a shot, overcooked a screen and generally seemed uneasy. I’m only going off memory from the broadcast too. He was very bad, full stop. A big a reason for our awful offense. I’ve defended him plenty and was in favor of the extension given the out. But he was awful independent of the things around him, which were also awful. We went 6 quarters without scoring a point.

Having said all that, he was a superstar in the 2nd half and put the team on his back.
I think the felt the pressure  
AcesUp : 9/17/2023 9:05 pm : link
Things were spiraling and he was as well. Things changed after the Hyatt play.
Hoo!  
Spider43 : 9/17/2023 9:06 pm : link
That was a fun game! I was okay with whatever outcome took place, I was just relieved we finally showed a pulse. Ecstatic we pulled out the win though.
….  
ryanmkeane : 9/17/2023 9:06 pm : link
First half, second half, whatever.

Put the team on his back and we won.
RE: ….  
AcesUp : 9/17/2023 9:07 pm : link
In comment 16210580 ryanmkeane said:
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First half, second half, whatever.

Put the team on his back and we won.


+1. It was a great game for DJ.
RE: Barkley  
Mdgiantsfan : 9/17/2023 9:12 pm : link
In comment 16210457 WillVAB said:
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Thank God the FO didn’t puss out and give him a McAffrey contract. Unfortunate he got hurt, but he gets hurt every year which is why you don’t give him a long term contract.


You'll see his value if he's not on the field. Opposing defenses aren't biting on PA with Breida/Gray/Brightwell, which is going to put more stress on DJ.
RE: RE: Barkley  
WillVAB : 9/17/2023 9:16 pm : link
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Thank God the FO didn’t puss out and give him a McAffrey contract. Unfortunate he got hurt, but he gets hurt every year which is why you don’t give him a long term contract.



You'll see his value if he's not on the field. Opposing defenses aren't biting on PA with Breida/Gray/Brightwell, which is going to put more stress on DJ.


They weren’t really biting on PA with Barkley in the lineup.
They didn’t have to bite  
AcesUp : 9/17/2023 9:18 pm : link
Their safeties were right on top of the linebackers most of the game. Zero respect for our deep passing and/or protection.
The Giants need Barkley  
ajr2456 : 9/17/2023 9:20 pm : link
To beat the teams coming up on our schedule. Not sure why that’s even a debate. The offensive line isn’t good enough to smoke and mirrors with lesser running backs
 
ryanmkeane : 9/17/2023 9:28 pm : link
“Barkley gets hurt every year.”

Except his rookie year, and last year, his two best seasons and looked like a top 3-4 RB.
RE: RE: RE: general question about SB....  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/17/2023 9:29 pm : link
In comment 16210462 BillKo said:
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...why on the play before his injury did he go down behind the LOS for like a three yard loss.

I thought that really was not a smart play.



You're playing for clock time. They were kicking the FG the whole time, not trying to advance the ball.



Well if that's the point, why did we run hard on the next two plays? LOL

My point, it was a dumb play. You run it for positive yardage and make them use their time out. You don't go backwards.


My point was you're just trying to hold the ball and not run into a yardage loss. Obviously you run hard.
RE: Looking forward to SY’s game review  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/17/2023 9:30 pm : link
In comment 16210355 WillVAB said:
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Where he blows Barkley and gives back handed compliments to Jones so he can stay on brand with his draft grades.


In the quarter century that I've run this site, there have been many people who have written game reviews. Sy is the best I've had, which is saying something given the work guys like Joey has done.

Show some respect.
Rbs get injured  
AcesUp : 9/17/2023 9:32 pm : link
It’s the nature of the position. They take on the biggest collisions and end up in the middle of scrums with limbs anchored in turf. Barkley isn’t any more injury prone than any other RB, none of them are connected. Likeliest scenario was that he didn’t play 17+ games this year so the Giants will have to manage a likely outcome.
RE: Hoo!  
jnoble : 9/17/2023 9:32 pm : link
In comment 16210578 Spider43 said:
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That was a fun game! I was okay with whatever outcome took place, I was just relieved we finally showed a pulse. Ecstatic we pulled out the win though.


Thankfully for us the Cardinals didn't seem to have any answers for the adjustments we made at halftime. Perhaps they got complacent assuming the game was over and also ran out of gas in the 4th
The Cardinals looked shell shocked when we got within 7 pts  
PatersonPlank : 9/17/2023 9:40 pm : link
and after we tied it they had that "deer in the headlights" look
RE: RE: Looking forward to SY’s game review  
TDMaker85 : 9/17/2023 9:40 pm : link
In comment 16210655 Eric from BBI said:
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Where he blows Barkley and gives back handed compliments to Jones so he can stay on brand with his draft grades.



In the quarter century that I've run this site, there have been many people who have written game reviews. Sy is the best I've had, which is saying something given the work guys like Joey has done.

Show some respect.


Seriously! What a terrible comment. I'm so glad we have Sy here.
RE: …  
WillVAB : 9/17/2023 9:43 pm : link
In comment 16210645 ryanmkeane said:
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“Barkley gets hurt every year.”

Except his rookie year, and last year, his two best seasons and looked like a top 3-4 RB.


He was hurt last year too.
RE: RE: …  
ryanmkeane : 9/17/2023 9:45 pm : link
In comment 16210694 WillVAB said:
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“Barkley gets hurt every year.”

Except his rookie year, and last year, his two best seasons and looked like a top 3-4 RB.



He was hurt last year too.

Yeah. Hurt his shoulder in the Packers game and then proceeded to play every game. Did he miss a start or a game? No. He was fine.
RE: RE: RE: …  
WillVAB : 9/17/2023 9:48 pm : link
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“Barkley gets hurt every year.”

Except his rookie year, and last year, his two best seasons and looked like a top 3-4 RB.



He was hurt last year too.


Yeah. Hurt his shoulder in the Packers game and then proceeded to play every game. Did he miss a start or a game? No. He was fine.


His performance wasn’t. It declined after the injury.

Regardless, I think the FO is smart enough to realize this which is why he’s on a one year deal right now.
RE: RE: …  
gersh : 9/17/2023 10:01 pm : link
In comment 16210694 WillVAB said:
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“Barkley gets hurt every year.”

Except his rookie year, and last year, his two best seasons and looked like a top 3-4 RB.



He was hurt last year too.


+1

C’mon Will
You’re better than this
(Especially when sober)
…..  
gersh : 9/17/2023 10:02 pm : link
Wrong post
Oh, well, carry on
RE: The Cardinals looked shell shocked when we got within 7 pts  
jnoble : 9/17/2023 10:04 pm : link
In comment 16210687 PatersonPlank said:
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and after we tied it they had that "deer in the headlights" look


Dobbs in particular on the sidelines looked stunned
….  
ryanmkeane : 9/17/2023 10:06 pm : link
His performance declined after the injury?

He averaged 100 rushing yards per game, in the 4 games following the injury. Team then went into a bit of a spin.

He averaged 5.7 yards a carry the last 5 games of the year including playoffs.

So, let’s assume that Daboll took over the call-playing duties  
CooperDash : 9/17/2023 10:18 pm : link
in the second half (which it’s blatantly obvious he did).

Why are Daboll and Kafka not on the same page with running the offense? The offensive strategy in the second half of this game (when Daboll took over the play calling) was vastly different than the previous 6 quarters. I’m perplexed by this.
RE: So, let’s assume that Daboll took over the call-playing duties  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/17/2023 10:19 pm : link
In comment 16210782 CooperDash said:
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in the second half (which it’s blatantly obvious he did).

Why are Daboll and Kafka not on the same page with running the offense? The offensive strategy in the second half of this game (when Daboll took over the play calling) was vastly different than the previous 6 quarters. I’m perplexed by this.


Inexperienced offensive coordinator had a plan in mind for week 1 and week 2 but didn't know how to get out of it when it was clear it wasn't working. Easy to forget Kafka is wet behind the ears.
RE: So Dabs took over play calling  
4xchamps : 9/17/2023 10:59 pm : link
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In the 2nd half?

#FakeNews
Re a Win is a Win...  
clatterbuck : 9/17/2023 11:52 pm : link
The first time the Giants came back from a 21 pt deficit to win a game since 1949. If you can't be excited about what the team did in the second half, DJ, Hyatt, Waller, Slayton, Saquon, the make-shift O-line, don't know what to tell you.
RE: Looking forward to SY’s game review  
giantstock : 9/18/2023 12:48 am : link
In comment 16210355 WillVAB said:
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Where he blows Barkley and gives back handed compliments to Jones so he can stay on brand with his draft grades.


What does this even mean?
RE: RE: general question about SB....  
giantstock : 9/18/2023 12:51 am : link
In comment 16210452 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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...why on the play before his injury did he go down behind the LOS for like a three yard loss.

I thought that really was not a smart play.



You're playing for clock time. They were kicking the FG the whole time, not trying to advance the ball.


You should also be trying to advance the ball. The fg wasn't automatic.
Saquon  
5BowlsSoon : 9/18/2023 1:47 am : link
He rushed for 63 yards with a less than 4.0 average. Caught 30 yards of passes and for the second week, was the cause of Dimes throwing an interception on a ball that glanced off his hands. He rushed for 51 yards, caught 12 yards of passing, and was responsible for Dimes interception off his hands in game one.

Bottom line- you can’t say Saquon has been essential in either game. In fact, how do you know Breida or Brightwell wouldn’t do just as well if not better? Getting more than 63 or 51 yards isn’t that difficult. And, if you don’t cause two turnovers like Saquon did, that is another plus.

I’m not hating on Saquon….just looking at the numbers.
RE: Saquon  
giantstock : 9/18/2023 4:03 am : link
In comment 16210923 5BowlsSoon said:
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He rushed for 63 yards with a less than 4.0 average. Caught 30 yards of passes and for the second week, was the cause of Dimes throwing an interception on a ball that glanced off his hands. He rushed for 51 yards, caught 12 yards of passing, and was responsible for Dimes interception off his hands in game one.

Bottom line- you can’t say Saquon has been essential in either game. In fact, how do you know Breida or Brightwell wouldn’t do just as well if not better? Getting more than 63 or 51 yards isn’t that difficult. And, if you don’t cause two turnovers like Saquon did, that is another plus.

I’m not hating on Saquon….just looking at the numbers.


Thanks for the laugh. How do we know many of the QB's couldn't be better than Mahomes these past two games?

If you think Breida or Birghtwell could have socred on that TD that Barkley had in teh 4th qaurter or that 10-12 yard run he made when he spun ot the outside after the middle was stuffed in teh 4th waurter, then I have a veyr large vbrdige to sell you.

So, you just want to look at the stats without even an iota of consideration that play action would be better with SB? You want to throw away logic and pretend when analyzing player we should just look at data only?

So again - apparently this year Mahomes isn't that essential? Per below I guess Mac Jones is more essential than Mahomes using statistcial data and throwing away logic like you have just done with the Breida and Brgithwell vs SB comparison?


https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2023/passing.htm

Jordan Love
CJ Stround
Trevor Lawrence - - Mahoems beat him today --

all are ahead of Mahomes using statstics without logic just as you are doing.


I was as pissed as anyone with SB's brick hands after interception 2 this year going off his hands (and last year his screwign up a pass vs Dallas). But that play he made to get the TD-- not many backs can do that. And to think that the Defense doesn't acount for him in a high level manner woudl be being incredibly naive.
Couple of points about the interceptions off Barkley's hands.  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/18/2023 5:38 am : link
Throwing to Saquon involves higher inherent risk than with most RBs - not because his hands are especially bad, but because of the attention he attracts. On a tip drill, there are likely to be defenders around to capitalize. Barkley needs to put even more of a premium on securing the catch, perhaps at the cost of a half-beat in turning upfield.

Of course, it can happen to anyone: Kyren Williams had a similar miscue today; it completely changed the course of the Rams-49ers game, and perhaps of the season in the NFC West. But having it happen twice in two games suggests a trend that needs correction.

Ideally, Barkley wouldn't feature so prominently in the passing game. So far, play action and the threat of Saquon out of the backfield have been among the few things providing Jones time to throw. That's the key challenge for Thursday. The Rams seemed to find a way today, until that fluke Kyren Williams play, and I'm not sure their line is any better than ours.

Anyway, we'll get a look at "running back by committee" on Thursday. I hope it's not a case of "Be careful what you wish for." On the positive side, after rebounding from 60-0 over the first six quarters of the season, we can have some confidence that the Giants won't let a dispiriting prime-time loss (if it comes to that) deflate them.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/18/2023 6:06 am : link
This team is doing all it can to kill me.
RE: RE: RE: general question about SB....  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/18/2023 6:11 am : link
In comment 16210916 giantstock said:
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...why on the play before his injury did he go down behind the LOS for like a three yard loss.

I thought that really was not a smart play.



You're playing for clock time. They were kicking the FG the whole time, not trying to advance the ball.



You should also be trying to advance the ball. The fg wasn't automatic.


In a dome with a kicker who has 50+ yard range, I'm sure the confidence level was high.
Don't know how ready they are given zero pre-season  
M.S. : 9/18/2023 6:39 am : link

action, but seeing how Dallas and Arizona ran the ball down our throat, I'd like to see bigger people at the LOS (like A’Shawn Robinson and Rakeem Nunez-Roches) and if that means sitting Kayvon Thibodeaux or one of our 5 DBs for a few series... that's fine with me. Really hard to win in the NFL giving up 150 yards a game on the ground.
glad they won, live to fight another day. at least they come home  
Victor in CT : 9/18/2023 7:37 am : link
1-2 at worst and play SEA at home for once with 10 days to prepare, BUT:

I'm still pissed. The first possession on both sides were a joke. 0-20 at halftime? YOU CAN'T BE SERIUOS!

Wink stinks. Sorry. They couldn't even sniff a sack against a shit team with a bad QB. Lucky for Wink AIR missed a FG or it's OT at best. They've given this "mad scientist" everything he wanted literally letting him choose a 1st round pick and he can't dial up any pressure.

Did Daboll secretly take over the play calling? I've heard and seen rumors. Suddenly the deep ball was in play and the Safeties had to drop back, the whole offense opened up.

RE: Couple of points about the interceptions off Barkley's hands.  
HBart : 9/18/2023 8:09 am : link
In comment 16210941 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Throwing to Saquon involves higher inherent risk than with most RBs - not because his hands are especially bad, but because of the attention he attracts. On a tip drill, there are likely to be defenders around to capitalize. Barkley needs to put even more of a premium on securing the catch, perhaps at the cost of a half-beat in turning upfield.

Of course, it can happen to anyone: Kyren Williams had a similar miscue today; it completely changed the course of the Rams-49ers game, and perhaps of the season in the NFC West. But having it happen twice in two games suggests a trend that needs correction.

Ideally, Barkley wouldn't feature so prominently in the passing game. So far, play action and the threat of Saquon out of the backfield have been among the few things providing Jones time to throw. That's the key challenge for Thursday. The Rams seemed to find a way today, until that fluke Kyren Williams play, and I'm not sure their line is any better than ours.

Anyway, we'll get a look at "running back by committee" on Thursday. I hope it's not a case of "Be careful what you wish for." On the positive side, after rebounding from 60-0 over the first six quarters of the season, we can have some confidence that the Giants won't let a dispiriting prime-time loss (if it comes to that) deflate them.

Interesting point re tips.

I'm bummed Barkley got hurt. Had he not, I'd expect he'd be focusing hard on the receiving aspect of his game moving forward because that's the kind of guy he is. But over the course of a few games I expect to see Breida perform well enough that he and Barkley become Exhibit A in why you don't break the bank for running backs.

Bonus that Breida's time to shine will be in SFO where he started out (averaging 5 YPC BTW).
NFLN  
bradshaw44 : 9/18/2023 8:34 am : link
Will definitely make this one of their replays of the week. They take the top three most exciting games and re-air them. And I can’t wait to watch because it didn’t air in DC so I only had the game thread. Which was crazy. I was even piling on and I couldn’t see the damn game. But BBI painted one hell of a picture. Can’t wait to see this game.
RE: How the fuck  
kickoff : 9/18/2023 6:28 pm : link
In comment 16210015 Jay on the Island said:
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Do they go from playing that poorly for the first 6 quarters of the season to that??


The QB took control.
RE: So, let’s assume that Daboll took over the call-playing duties  
kickoff : 9/18/2023 6:32 pm : link
In comment 16210782 CooperDash said:
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in the second half (which it’s blatantly obvious he did).

Why are Daboll and Kafka not on the same page with running the offense? The offensive strategy in the second half of this game (when Daboll took over the play calling) was vastly different than the previous 6 quarters. I’m perplexed by this.


Where are you guys getting thid info thar BD took over the play calling?
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