Jones highest graded player on the offense, hyatt and waller 2nd/3rd. think jones' may have the highest graded game of the year so far of any qb. they had jones pressured on 30% of dropbacks.
jms and mckethan the highest graded offensive lineman, neal the lowest. sacks were credited 1 each against the IOL.
neal gave up 2 pressures and had a penalty. also had his run block grade lowest.
lawrence, simmons, hawkins 3 highest graded players on defense. Dex had 5 pressures simmons had 1 in just 3 rushes, leonard williams had 4. simmons also highest graded player in coverage (just 9 coverage plays).
worst graded players on defense were:
banks (4 of 6 targets completed),
ward (0 pressures and just 1 tackle in 35 plays),
mcfadden (4 missed tackles, 4 targets/ 4 receptions allowed - though he was also the teams highest gradeed special teams player on 11 saps)
all in all great effort from the entire young OL and whatever gameplan they used to protect them.
on defense thibodeaux and mckinney in particular need to step things up. they play splash positions and have yet to make splash plays. wonder if they increase simmons' role or give carter coughlin a chance with some of mcfadden's reps.
Amen brother
And Banks looked better than that PFF grade. Both rookies are certified tough
Want to feel good about this teams future? These two on their rookie contracts for the next four years. And all the money for next year with Golladay finally coming off the books and Leo’s crazy cap hit being done.
Do you guys know how to evaluate talent. Lock up the right guys and draft well.
The Future looks bright even if we may not be ready to play with the 49ers, Cowboys and Eagles just yet
Encouraging score for McKethan in his first game coming back from injury.
Yeah, I'm not sure where this bad coverage grade is coming from. Other than the one completion to Ertz, who made a great catch while being blanketed by Banks, I don't really recall seeing him being beaten much. Maybe a pass to Hollywood?
I thought he was right there on his coverage. Sometimes the other guys make plays.
Bounce-back performance from the #Giants offensive line. Allowed only seven pressures.
The Pass Block Win Rates:
LT Josh Ezeudu 89.7% (21st)
LG Mark Glowinski 93.8% (18th)
C JM Schmitz 100% (T-1)
RG Marcus McKethan 89.7% (27th)
RT Evan Neal 93.1% (15th)
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Banks looked good yesterday.
Yeah, I'm not sure where this bad coverage grade is coming from. Other than the one completion to Ertz, who made a great catch while being blanketed by Banks, I don't really recall seeing him being beaten much. Maybe a pass to Hollywood?
I thought he was right there on his coverage. Sometimes the other guys make plays.
Exactly!
I know we’re not watching the all 22 coaches film, but we know when a guy has good coverage and the other guys just make a play.
Banks and Hawkins both look damn good and tough as nails
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Banks looked good yesterday.
Yeah, I'm not sure where this bad coverage grade is coming from. Other than the one completion to Ertz, who made a great catch while being blanketed by Banks, I don't really recall seeing him being beaten much. Maybe a pass to Hollywood?
I thought he was right there on his coverage. Sometimes the other guys make plays.
Exactly!
I know we’re not watching the all 22 coaches film, but we know when a guy has good coverage and the other guys just make a play.
Banks and Hawkins both look damn good and tough as nails
Agreed. Very odd. I subscribe to NFL Gamepass so I can watch the All 22. I'll have to take a look whenever it gets posted to see what I'm missing, or at least see if I can get a sense of where the PFF guys are coming from.
Bounce-back performance from the #Giants offensive line. Allowed only seven pressures.
The Pass Block Win Rates:
LT Josh Ezeudu 89.7% (21st)
LG Mark Glowinski 93.8% (18th)
C JM Schmitz 100% (T-1)
RG Marcus McKethan 89.7% (27th)
RT Evan Neal 93.1% (15th)
Yeah it's really interesting seeing this stat and then looking at the PFF score. You see in the PFF score, 1 penalty, 1 hurry, and 1 QB hit allowed for Neal, no sacks. It's not Walter Jones, but seems incongruent with the low grade.
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I wonder what's causing that low score for him.
I agree with PFF. Neal had some ugly snaps that went unnoticed be abuse the play was either still completed or went away from him. He also has Bellinger helping quite a bit.
Bounce-back performance from the #Giants offensive line. Allowed only seven pressures.
The Pass Block Win Rates:
LT Josh Ezeudu 89.7% (21st)
LG Mark Glowinski 93.8% (18th)
C JM Schmitz 100% (T-1)
RG Marcus McKethan 89.7% (27th)
RT Evan Neal 93.1% (15th)
pff grades dont matter as much to me as their raw stats.
these %'s imo are also less relevant. if a tackle plays 50 snaps and gets beat clean on the game losint sack/strip/fumble td, their 98% win rate misses a big part of the story.
penalties, sacks, hits, pressures allowed are the biggest value i see in pff.
Do you know if they include something PFR doesn't?
Do you know if they include something PFR doesn't?
i dont my guess is it's just a difference of whatever their points of emphasis are in watching what is or isn't a pressure. i believe pff has 2 people who watch each game to confirm things before publishing, i dont know how PFR tabulates things that are more ambiguous than the official statistics.
i dont necessarily trust 1 more than the other but since PFF has a lot more specific stats ill generally use theirs because it's more apples to apples methodology.
I briefly worked with the owner of one of the big brand name sports data tracking companies. What used to be just fun data has matured into a high stakes industry, with gambling but also performance bonuses for players.
Neither here nor there, just always find how data is collected fascinating.
I briefly worked with the owner of one of the big brand name sports data tracking companies. What used to be just fun data has matured into a high stakes industry, with gambling but also performance bonuses for players.
Neither here nor there, just always find how data is collected fascinating.
i have no reason to suspect any of them are generating bad data even if there are differences, as long as they are using their methodologies consistently among their own data set you can make comparisons. the actual numbers themselves are slightly less important.
field level tracking data (nextgen) is generally i find the most interesting but they dont have enough of it public yet.
But his catch on the sideline that was ruled out - I was watching replay of the game and that was definitley a catch as his shin/ankle touched in bounds and that is equivalent of 2 feet. What an improbable catch that was. Was Daboll out of challenges there?
But his catch on the sideline that was ruled out - I was watching replay of the game and that was definitley a catch as his shin/ankle touched in bounds and that is equivalent of 2 feet. What an improbable catch that was. Was Daboll out of challenges there?
i thought shin was in, but ball moved when he hit the ground.
it was very close but i think that one was going to stay with call on the field.
Its good to See Jones, Hyatt, Waller and Slay ranked in that way, b/c it looked like that when watching the game. They made big plays.
I think the OL ratings are a little unfair on JMS. Dude is a rookie holding a make shift OL together without their best OL men. We're talking 3 2nd year players starting, 1 out of position and the OL got its act together.
McFadden's rating is scary bad - the tackling - ouch.