this off-season is odd to me considering how injury-prone and unreliable Azeez has been during his career. And adding Boogie Bashman is not an investment as, like Jihad Ward, his strength is not in rushing the passer.
Test on where we truly are. You could say game 1 was bad circumstance, bruised ego and then an avalanche from there. Game 2, first half hang over, playing passive ( not scared but passive) and then 2nd half was on fire.
The Giants need to treat this game the same way 2nd half Sunday. Attack all over the field, push the ball down field. Bredia brings some power in his runs- less dancing more straight to the hole and then Gray and Brightwell bring FRESH younger legs and some umph behind their runs..
49ers can't key on Bredia like Barkley or they open up other avenues.. The surprise contributor here could be WDR, who could be a threat out of the backfield if he plays.
We weren’t beating them with all those guys anyways. So why play them? The cardinals win all but sealed they weren’t playing. Let them heal up cause the Seattle game is much more important.
and barely even played them. Barkley, in particular, didn't play a single snap in the pre-season. And even with all of that protecting, they still manage to geti njured in Game 2. It's unreal.
We weren’t beating them with all those guys anyways. So why play them? The cardinals win all but sealed they weren’t playing. Let them heal up cause the Seattle game is much more important.
I agree next week s game is more important. I disagree with writing tomorrow off as a loss before the game is played
and barely even played them. Barkley, in particular, didn't play a single snap in the pre-season. And even with all of that protecting, they still manage to geti njured in Game 2. It's unreal.
How do you propose Barkley or any other player is supposed to avoid what happened to him?
We weren’t beating them with all those guys anyways. So why play them? The cardinals win all but sealed they weren’t playing. Let them heal up cause the Seattle game is much more important.
I agree next week s game is more important. I disagree with writing tomorrow off as a loss before the game is played
I wrote it off as a loss the second the schedule came out.
of this is unexpected. I'm also quite sure that AO and all the other players want to play. Next man up. Games are not played on paper. I doubt it will happen, but we can still win.
my biggest concern going up against SF is not the Giants' pass rush but their inability to stop the run. Not sure what changed in the 4th quarter vs. Arizona when suddenly the defense figured it out, but that type of horrid run defense from the first 3 quarters will lead to a very long night in SF for the Giants.
Did Ojulari get hurt NOT shedding the Dallas WR’s block?
of this is unexpected. I'm also quite sure that AO and all the other players want to play. Next man up. Games are not played on paper. I doubt it will happen, but we can still win.
To your point, the last time we played on a Thursday night happened to be on Thanksgiving Day when we were even more injured against a Dallas team that was supposed to kick the shit out of us.
We obviously didn’t win but we easily could have if not for self inflicted wounds in that one. I expect a competitive game Thursday Night.
RE: RE: Yeah, you guys are right, he's enver injured.
and barely even played them. Barkley, in particular, didn't play a single snap in the pre-season. And even with all of that protecting, they still manage to geti njured in Game 2. It's unreal.
So, do you think if he played in the preseason the defensive player wouldn't have landed on his leg and twisted his ankle?
Barkley and Brederson I kinda knew for sure they'd be out. Ojulari was not a big surprise but it hurts. But being without stud LT for a second game against a great front four really stinks.
This is the week where we truly learn about Ezedeu at LT; Neal at RT; and, McEthan at OG. Can this young OL hold up against this level of competition?? I am thinking, unfortunately, not a chance.
We will need to run really, really well despite missing Barkley and hope that Jones can create things with his legs and short quick throws.
And can our defense put it together and generate some rush? Is this the game that Simmons is used perfectly and surprises everyone? We need someone to step up and surprise SF?
No one Denys he s been injured. It s your insinuation he has been an attitude problem I take issue with
Please show me where i said it has anything to do with his attitude?
You didn’t want to hear his bitching, If that is not a reference to attitude, I withdraw my objection.
I'm not saying he will, but he obviously wasn't happy coming into this season. He got injured yet again in just Week 2. But he'll wonder why he's not getting every last penny he wants. I mean..
I know he dropped due to injury in the draft but they need to draft another Edge and a DE next year. Wasted roster spot at this point sadly. He's never ever healthy regardless of talent
they take Robinson off PUP? Missing fourth game this week.
Because he can't practice while he's on PUP. He can practice and remain inactive until they're satisfied that he's recovered, up to speed and ready for full-contact game action.
too bad but it's to the point now that they can't count on him at all.
I know there are no medals for trying but I think it will be a moral victory tonight if they manage not to get run out of the building and come out healthy with no new injuries.
RE: nice to see Wandale. Ojulari just cant stay on the field
too bad but it's to the point now that they can't count on him at all.
I know there are no medals for trying but I think it will be a moral victory tonight if they manage not to get run out of the building and come out healthy with no new injuries.
Definitely a competitive game is a win for the Giants whether they win or lose. A blowout to a top-notch team just continues the pattern we've seen since last season.
game one decision to keep playing AT during a blowout.
Obviously, I don't know the particulars, and can't say if he made it worse by playing, but if it didn't get worse, and he can't go now, he shouldn't have continued playing. Or, he made it worse by continuing to play, in which case he shouldn't have continued playing.
It's possible they're chalking this up as a loss (like a lot of BBI), and are resting him. Maybe he would play if this was another AZ opponent.
game one decision to keep playing AT during a blowout.
Obviously, I don't know the particulars, and can't say if he made it worse by playing, but if it didn't get worse, and he can't go now, he shouldn't have continued playing. Or, he made it worse by continuing to play, in which case he shouldn't have continued playing.
It's possible they're chalking this up as a loss (like a lot of BBI), and are resting him. Maybe he would play if this was another AZ opponent.
It’s the smart decision. They have 10 days between games after tonight, don’t risk making it worse now when he will have a ton of time to make sure he’s ready to go
At the risk of being dismissive of some of the points made above, my guess is Thomas is simply hurt and can't play.
You only get 17 swings, and Daboll saw how quickly the tides turn for the Giants coach. The last 3 guys before him got two years. And the last guy to get to the playoffs didn't even make it through his second year.
I don't think Daboll is holding out players who are healthy just to be cautious. His job is to win games and get to the playoffs.
Thomas is arguably their best player, so I suspect when he's healthy he'll play.
Except Wan'dall is that you couldn't judge their progress anyway. Only walkthroughs between last game and this. Add in the flip side of the short week - the super long following week - and it's almost impossible to make any argument in favor of playing any of them.
Daboll greenlights Jones to play fearlessly and he goes big game hunting with the passing game.
Troll :)
Fanning the flames of this helps the team how?
Can't we just say the HC did his job by overseeing the OC after 0-60 over 6 quarters. I suspect that after the success, Kafka will use Hyatt more and call some shots.
Working as intended, no?
Are you secretly Pat Leonard?
There is no need to press that narrative unless you are looking for clicks and impressions.
and barely even played them. Barkley, in particular, didn't play a single snap in the pre-season. And even with all of that protecting, they still manage to geti njured in Game 2. It's unreal.
FWIW you can play the entire preseason and still be hurt in game 2.
Sounds like Wan’Dale will play, though I’m sure on a snap count.
Thomas being out again is disappointing, but whatever.
Yep, what a shame for him. Every game he misses, at this point, probably drops his future earnings on a second contract.
The Giants need to treat this game the same way 2nd half Sunday. Attack all over the field, push the ball down field. Bredia brings some power in his runs- less dancing more straight to the hole and then Gray and Brightwell bring FRESH younger legs and some umph behind their runs..
49ers can't key on Bredia like Barkley or they open up other avenues.. The surprise contributor here could be WDR, who could be a threat out of the backfield if he plays.
brutal
I wouldn't be so sure about that
Thomas being out again is disappointing, but whatever.
Barkley has played 31 out of the last 36 games, he is not constantly injured
Thomas being out again is disappointing, but whatever.
Barkley did not miss one day of practice, put his team before a bruised ego, played all out.
Did you see the play he was injured on! This take seems very unfair.
I'd be curious how that compares to other players at the position...
I agree next week s game is more important. I disagree with writing tomorrow off as a loss before the game is played
Stuck out west with 3 days in between 2 football games.
No one Denys he s been injured. It s your insinuation he has been an attitude problem I take issue with
How do you propose Barkley or any other player is supposed to avoid what happened to him?
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We weren’t beating them with all those guys anyways. So why play them? The cardinals win all but sealed they weren’t playing. Let them heal up cause the Seattle game is much more important.
I agree next week s game is more important. I disagree with writing tomorrow off as a loss before the game is played
I wrote it off as a loss the second the schedule came out.
This will be three seasons he will miss time with a sprained ankle, not to mention the year he missed with a torn ACL.
If this sprain is like his other low ankle sprain and he misses three games, that's 66% of his years missing three plus games.
better than what were getting for him now (Nothing)
they've only played two games so far -- this will be game #3
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No one Denys he s been injured. It s your insinuation he has been an attitude problem I take issue with
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He's listed as questionable. Given they've already ruled out players, seems more likely he will play.
To your point, the last time we played on a Thursday night happened to be on Thanksgiving Day when we were even more injured against a Dallas team that was supposed to kick the shit out of us.
We obviously didn’t win but we easily could have if not for self inflicted wounds in that one. I expect a competitive game Thursday Night.
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No one Denys he s been injured. It s your insinuation he has been an attitude problem I take issue with
Please show me where i said it has anything to do with his attitude?
So, do you think if he played in the preseason the defensive player wouldn't have landed on his leg and twisted his ankle?
This is the week where we truly learn about Ezedeu at LT; Neal at RT; and, McEthan at OG. Can this young OL hold up against this level of competition?? I am thinking, unfortunately, not a chance.
We will need to run really, really well despite missing Barkley and hope that Jones can create things with his legs and short quick throws.
And can our defense put it together and generate some rush? Is this the game that Simmons is used perfectly and surprises everyone? We need someone to step up and surprise SF?
The Giants offense can do some damage. That may not translate into a win, but it could make for a competitive game.
No need to dwell on the consequences of poor pass blocking.
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Don't want to hear Barkley bitch again next year when he doesn't get what he wants from a contract standpoint. Ojulari is just whatever at this point.
Thomas being out again is disappointing, but whatever.
Barkley has played 31 out of the last 36 games, he is not constantly injured
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No one Denys he s been injured. It s your insinuation he has been an attitude problem I take issue with
Please show me where i said it has anything to do with his attitude?
You didn’t want to hear his bitching, If that is not a reference to attitude, I withdraw my objection.
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No one Denys he s been injured. It s your insinuation he has been an attitude problem I take issue with
Please show me where i said it has anything to do with his attitude?
You didn’t want to hear his bitching, If that is not a reference to attitude, I withdraw my objection.
I'm not saying he will, but he obviously wasn't happy coming into this season. He got injured yet again in just Week 2. But he'll wonder why he's not getting every last penny he wants. I mean..
I know he dropped due to injury in the draft but they need to draft another Edge and a DE next year. Wasted roster spot at this point sadly. He's never ever healthy regardless of talent
Running backs get injured its the nature of the position. Hopefully someone else steps it up.
McFadden, maybe his neck was bothering him the last game and that explains the missed tackles. Give Coughlin a chance, I think he has earned that.
I would like to see us try a 4-4-3 defense against the niners, nothing to lose.
Which statement best describes the New York Giants?
(a) An NFL team that is chronically injured year after year?
(b) An NFL team that has marginal back-up talent to fill in for injured players?
(c) Both statements are equally true
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I know there are no medals for trying but I think it will be a moral victory tonight if they manage not to get run out of the building and come out healthy with no new injuries.
I know there are no medals for trying but I think it will be a moral victory tonight if they manage not to get run out of the building and come out healthy with no new injuries.
Definitely a competitive game is a win for the Giants whether they win or lose. A blowout to a top-notch team just continues the pattern we've seen since last season.
Obviously, I don't know the particulars, and can't say if he made it worse by playing, but if it didn't get worse, and he can't go now, he shouldn't have continued playing. Or, he made it worse by continuing to play, in which case he shouldn't have continued playing.
It's possible they're chalking this up as a loss (like a lot of BBI), and are resting him. Maybe he would play if this was another AZ opponent.
The Niners are favored by double digits, I don't have a lot of confidence in this game. How about a good showing at least?
Obviously, I don't know the particulars, and can't say if he made it worse by playing, but if it didn't get worse, and he can't go now, he shouldn't have continued playing. Or, he made it worse by continuing to play, in which case he shouldn't have continued playing.
It's possible they're chalking this up as a loss (like a lot of BBI), and are resting him. Maybe he would play if this was another AZ opponent.
It’s the smart decision. They have 10 days between games after tonight, don’t risk making it worse now when he will have a ton of time to make sure he’s ready to go
You only get 17 swings, and Daboll saw how quickly the tides turn for the Giants coach. The last 3 guys before him got two years. And the last guy to get to the playoffs didn't even make it through his second year.
I don't think Daboll is holding out players who are healthy just to be cautious. His job is to win games and get to the playoffs.
Thomas is arguably their best player, so I suspect when he's healthy he'll play.
Even if he's better now he'd probably hurt it again walking off the plane anyway.
Fanning the flames of this helps the team how?
Can't we just say the HC did his job by overseeing the OC after 0-60 over 6 quarters. I suspect that after the success, Kafka will use Hyatt more and call some shots.
Working as intended, no?
Are you secretly Pat Leonard?
There is no need to press that narrative unless you are looking for clicks and impressions.
FWIW you can play the entire preseason and still be hurt in game 2.