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Looks like the Cardinals are a lot better

Hammer : 9/24/2023 7:17 pm
than people thought.

Makes the Giant's comeback win more impressive.
We could’ve had Cam Thomas in rd 3  
HarryCarson53 : 9/24/2023 7:18 pm : link
And he’s alteady more disruptive than Thibs. I wanted us to take him in rd 2. We took Ezeudu.
I wouldn’t want him as “the guy”  
Ben in Tampa : 9/24/2023 7:19 pm : link
But Josh Dobbs is as impressive as journeymen quarterbacks get.
Transitive property isn’t a thing in  
ajr2456 : 9/24/2023 7:20 pm : link
Sports.
RE: Transitive property isn’t a thing in  
BestFeature : 9/24/2023 7:23 pm : link
In comment 16220242 ajr2456 said:
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STFU, the entire week we heard how terrible the Cardinals are. This season they lost two close games to the Commanders and Giants and beat the Cowboys. But no they're still the worst team ever because Daniel Jones played well against them.
RE: Transitive property isn’t a thing in  
LittleBlue : 9/24/2023 7:23 pm : link
In comment 16220242 ajr2456 said:
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Sports.


This is the kind of stupid you need to go talk to a pharmacist about - over the counter not enough strength.

Of course we didn’t beat Dallas just because we beat Arizona and they beat Dallas. Do you think anyone thinks this?

But equally obvious, Arizona isn’t as bad as people thought and our win over them was quality. Dare I say, that H2H win may matter for a WC tiebreaker.
Darn impressive win by the Cards  
Stratman : 9/24/2023 7:23 pm : link
Give them credit. Philly must be loving the fact that all NFC East opponents have lost this week.
RE: Darn impressive win by the Cards  
FJ : 9/24/2023 7:25 pm : link
In comment 16220261 Stratman said:
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Give them credit. Philly must be loving the fact that all NFC East opponents have lost this week.

Hopefully the Eagles lose to complete the sweep.
RE: RE: Transitive property isn’t a thing in  
ajr2456 : 9/24/2023 7:26 pm : link
In comment 16220259 LittleBlue said:
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In comment 16220242 ajr2456 said:


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Sports.



This is the kind of stupid you need to go talk to a pharmacist about - over the counter not enough strength.

Of course we didn’t beat Dallas just because we beat Arizona and they beat Dallas. Do you think anyone thinks this?

But equally obvious, Arizona isn’t as bad as people thought and our win over them was quality. Dare I say, that H2H win may matter for a WC tiebreaker.


Sounds like you’re the one who needs the meds.

The cardinals are still very bad. This doesn’t make the Giants win look any better or their loss to Dallas look any worse. It’s just another game.
Makes the Cardinals comeback look even better.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/24/2023 7:27 pm : link
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Of course  
pjcas18 : 9/24/2023 7:30 pm : link
it makes the Giants win over the Cardinals better. On the road.

The more wins the Cardinals get the better that win is.

What it doesn't do is make the Giants loss to Dallas look any better.
It's amazing what happens when your best CB goes out  
gidiefor : Mod : 9/24/2023 7:33 pm : link
and you have three replacements on the Oline
RE: We could’ve had Cam Thomas in rd 3  
Jack Stroud : 9/24/2023 7:35 pm : link
In comment 16220236 HarryCarson53 said:
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And he’s alteady more disruptive than Thibs. I wanted us to take him in rd 2. We took Ezeudu.
Oh please, 2020/hind sight!
RE: It's amazing what happens when your best CB goes out  
HBart : 9/24/2023 7:37 pm : link
In comment 16220287 gidiefor said:
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and you have three replacements on the Oline

Shhhhhhh. People will think you're making excuses for the Giants.
RE: RE: RE: Transitive property isn’t a thing in  
joeinpa : 9/24/2023 7:39 pm : link
In comment 16220275 ajr2456 said:
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This is the kind of stupid you need to go talk to a pharmacist about - over the counter not enough strength.

Of course we didn’t beat Dallas just because we beat Arizona and they beat Dallas. Do you think anyone thinks this?

But equally obvious, Arizona isn’t as bad as people thought and our win over them was quality. Dare I say, that H2H win may matter for a WC tiebreaker.



Sounds like you’re the one who needs the meds.

The cardinals are still very bad. This doesn’t make the Giants win look any better or their loss to Dallas look any worse. It’s just another game.


This kind of post occurs regularly here.

You just saw a team, who played two supposedly superior opponents tough the first two weeks of the season, beat the Cowboys, a team acclaimed as elite and maybe the best in the NFC.

Yet you state with assuredness that the Cardinals are a bad team.

It might turn out that they really are, but for three weeks they are anything but hapless
RE: We could’ve had Cam Thomas in rd 3  
BigBlueShock : 9/24/2023 7:40 pm : link
In comment 16220236 HarryCarson53 said:
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And he’s alteady more disruptive than Thibs. I wanted us to take him in rd 2. We took Ezeudu.

Could have had a thousand different players in the 3rd round. Can only take one. Are you going to go down the list of all the players they didn’t take that have sucked ass?

It’s weird how we never hear of players that posters supposedly wanted that ended up complete failures. Yet, the minute a player they liked has a delegate, here come the chest pumps
RE: RE: We could’ve had Cam Thomas in rd 3  
nochance : 9/24/2023 7:42 pm : link
In comment 16220293 Jack Stroud said:
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And he’s alteady more disruptive than Thibs. I wanted us to take him in rd 2. We took Ezeudu.

Oh please, 2020/hind sight!



Years ago we could have had Tom Brady in the 6th round!
RE: We could’ve had Cam Thomas in rd 3  
k2tampa : 9/24/2023 7:42 pm : link
In comment 16220236 HarryCarson53 said:
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And he’s alteady more disruptive than Thibs. I wanted us to take him in rd 2. We took Ezeudu.


The Giants didn't take Ezeudu in round 2.
This board is all over the place  
ajr2456 : 9/24/2023 7:45 pm : link
Some days it’s the lack of preseason makes early season games unpredictable. Then some days losses are because of injuries.

Beating the Cardinals because they beat Dallas doesn’t make me feel any better about the Giants. Come December the Cardinals are going to have 3 or 4 wins.

Should we talk about how Dobbs did something Jones hasn’t been able to do yet? How the Cardinals bottom do the league oline was able to neutralize the Cowboy pass rush? How their secondary shut down Dallas without their best defensive back?

Games are independent events of one another.
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ChrisRick : 9/24/2023 7:49 pm : link
Are the cardinals tanking or not? The cardinals tanking was one of the reasons why the giants were able to come from behind and win.
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Bramton1 : 9/24/2023 7:50 pm : link
In comment 16220326 ChrisRick said:
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Are the cardinals tanking or not? The cardinals tanking was one of the reasons why the giants were able to come from behind and win.


No, they're not. And Chicago and Denver are a lot worse. That's what all the Dallas fans are saying now.
RE: This board is all over the place  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/24/2023 7:53 pm : link
In comment 16220321 ajr2456 said:
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Some days it’s the lack of preseason makes early season games unpredictable. Then some days losses are because of injuries.

Beating the Cardinals because they beat Dallas doesn’t make me feel any better about the Giants. Come December the Cardinals are going to have 3 or 4 wins.

Should we talk about how Dobbs did something Jones hasn’t been able to do yet? How the Cardinals bottom do the league oline was able to neutralize the Cowboy pass rush? How their secondary shut down Dallas without their best defensive back?

Games are independent events of one another.


I'd actually like to hear you talk about Dobbs. You got him on your fantasy team?
The NFL is week to week  
Sean : 9/24/2023 7:54 pm : link
All that matters is the Giants are 1-2.
RE: RE: This board is all over the place  
ajr2456 : 9/24/2023 7:56 pm : link
In comment 16220334 Thunderstruck27 said:
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I'd actually like to hear you talk about Dobbs. You got him on your fantasy team?


I wish after having to play Howell because of injuries. Did cost me an entry in a 7 figure survivor league
The Cardinals have:  
Ralph.C : 9/24/2023 8:04 pm : link
1) A good offensive line
2) A good running back
3) A good pass rush
4) A good coverage secondary

Questions are about the tackling of the secondary and at quarterback. Right now? Dobbs is passing the eye test so far. He delivers the ball accurately, he has good movement in the pocket. He can run and he seems to make good decisions so far.

Oh, and this team looks really fast on both sides of the ball.

I think the Cardinals are way better than anyone thought going into the season.
It would be hilariously if the Arizona management intending to tank accidentally put together their best team in years.
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k2tampa : 9/24/2023 8:14 pm : link
In comment 16220326 ChrisRick said:
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Are the cardinals tanking or not? The cardinals tanking was one of the reasons why the giants were able to come from behind and win.


Players don't tank. They are playing to have a job next year. It's ridiculous.
RE: It's amazing what happens when your best CB goes out  
bw in dc : 9/24/2023 8:27 pm : link
In comment 16220287 gidiefor said:
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and you have three replacements on the Oline


I concur with your OL comment.

But Zona came out of the gate running the ball as if they were the 9ers. I can't associate that success with Diggs going down.
The more irritating part...  
bw in dc : 9/24/2023 8:30 pm : link
is the Cards look to have a stitched together OL that has made them very competitive despite a journeyman QB.
Looks like the Cowboys are a lot worse  
The Mike : 9/24/2023 8:34 pm : link
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Looking back at how stupid the comments were last week...  
DefenseWins : 9/24/2023 8:46 pm : link
when morons were saying the Cardinals were intentionally trying to tank the season so they could get the 1st pick in the draft.
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ChrisRick : 9/24/2023 8:59 pm : link
In comment 16220371 k2tampa said:
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Are the cardinals tanking or not? The cardinals tanking was one of the reasons why the giants were able to come from behind and win.



Players don't tank. They are playing to have a job next year. It's ridiculous.


I agree. It was a way to discredit the Giants impressive come from behind win. There was absolutely nothing to suggest the cards were tanking considering how hard they played against Washington the week before and the Giants (at least in the first half). I doubt you'll see those comments walked back unfortunately.
You are what your record is  
MeanBunny : 9/24/2023 9:27 pm : link
Cards are as good as Giants and playing beyond their talent. Giants now have all this talent, but undercoached
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MeanBunny : 9/24/2023 9:41 pm : link
The management and ownership is tanking. but much like Giants last year, the practice squad trash and the journeymen play with heart and caring. Wink now is coaching a squad of girls field hockey players, after last year
In comment 16220371 k2tampa said:
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Are the cardinals tanking or not? The cardinals tanking was one of the reasons why the giants were able to come from behind and win.



Players don't tank. They are playing to have a job next year. It's ridiculous.
Cards  
Toth029 : 9/25/2023 6:18 am : link
Line didn't shut down the Cowboys pass rush.

They did the smart thing and ran down their throat.

Giants were doing it but playcalling decided to be Rams 2001.
RE: Cards  
HBart : 9/25/2023 6:44 am : link
In comment 16220575 Toth029 said:
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Line didn't shut down the Cowboys pass rush.

They did the smart thing and ran down their throat.

Giants were doing it but playcalling decided to be Rams 2001.

They came out running in the second half. Which worked as well as anything else that night (eg not at all).
RE: Cards  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 9/25/2023 11:25 am : link
In comment 16220575 Toth029 said:
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Line didn't shut down the Cowboys pass rush.

They did the smart thing and ran down their throat.

Giants were doing it but playcalling decided to be Rams 2001.


Correct, they ran the ball, alot of counter runs
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