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NGT: Assuming Bears have the 2024 # 1

jc in c-ville : 9/25/2023 1:36 pm
Caleb went on record that there is a chance he would return to USC perhaps to avoid Arizona and their dysfunctional leadership. With them losing yesterday coupled with what I believe to be a progressive situation in Houston ( solid coach)- that leaves Chicago ias a front runner. However, they appear as fucked up ( or more) leadership wise as Arizona. Wonder if that changes his mind to go to a flagship organization and be the savior, or wait it out another year and risk everything $$$ only to be revisited by the same teams in 2025.
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jc in c-ville : 9/25/2023 1:37 pm : link
With Arizona ( winning) yesterday…
The Bears will pick a QB  
JoeyBigBlue : 9/25/2023 1:38 pm : link
Whether it’s a Caleb Williams or Drake Maye. They can’t go another season with the Justin Fields experiment.
I think Caleb’s camp is full of shit  
UConn4523 : 9/25/2023 1:41 pm : link
the goalpost is just going to move to whatever teams looks most fucked up.
RE: I think Caleb’s camp is full of shit  
robbieballs2003 : 9/25/2023 1:43 pm : link
In comment 16221022 UConn4523 said:
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the goalpost is just going to move to whatever teams looks most fucked up.


Maybe but with college kids making money now it really isn't a big deal to go back to college.
RE: RE: I think Caleb’s camp is full of shit  
UConn4523 : 9/25/2023 1:51 pm : link
In comment 16221024 robbieballs2003 said:
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the goalpost is just going to move to whatever teams looks most fucked up.



Maybe but with college kids making money now it really isn't a big deal to go back to college.


$2-4m vs $45m is a hell of a gamble to push your decision out a year and wind up in the same exact boat - with the Colts, Bears, Cardinals etc likely having the #1 pick.

I don’t think much has changed unless you are a fringe 1st rounder or later.
Bears also have Carolina’s first  
bceagle05 : 9/25/2023 1:51 pm : link
courtesy of last year’s trade for the first overall pick. Carolina is 0-3. They might have two picks in the top three or four. Imagine if they can draft Caleb and pair Marvin Harrison Jr. with DJ Moore at WR? That’s a good start.
If Caleb returns to school, I could see them going with Marvin  
Anakim : 9/25/2023 1:52 pm : link
Harrison Jr.
RE: The Bears will pick a QB  
bw in dc : 9/25/2023 1:55 pm : link
In comment 16221011 JoeyBigBlue said:
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Whether it’s a Caleb Williams or Drake Maye. They can’t go another season with the Justin Fields experiment.


The organization is a cataclysm. No QB should want to go there until a major overhaul occurs. Ideally, that would include a new ownership. But since that's unlikely, they need at least new coaching across the board.

And this is rounding into an incredibly deep QB class. So, there are going to be a lot of options.

I imagine at least 12 QBs are getting drafted. Maybe half on day one.
What make anyone think Caleb is any better than Justin Fields?  
Jack Stroud : 9/25/2023 1:55 pm : link
No one has any idea what a college qb will do in the NFL. I think a lot of teams look at how well a qb runs instead of looking at how well they throw from the pocket.
If I were a young man, I'd be torn about the possibility of Da Bears.  
81_Great_Dane : 9/25/2023 1:57 pm : link
Probably no better place to be a young, well-off single man than Chicago.

But the Bears have been a mess for a while now and it looks like they need to clean house. A top pick almost always goes to a bad team; there's almost no way around that. But the Bears have been especially bad. If I were running the Jets, I'd be scheming a way to get to the top. It probably wouldn't entail a big move up. With Wilson, the Jets are probably headed for a top-5 pick anyway.
RE: What make anyone think Caleb is any better than Justin Fields?  
JoeyBigBlue : 9/25/2023 1:58 pm : link
In comment 16221048 Jack Stroud said:
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No one has any idea what a college qb will do in the NFL. I think a lot of teams look at how well a qb runs instead of looking at how well they throw from the pocket.


Caleb Williams has been compared favorably to Patrick Mahomes. Drake Maye isn’t far behind as a prospect. Both would be taken 10/10 over Fields.
RE: If I were a young man, I'd be torn about the possibility of Da Bears.  
UConn4523 : 9/25/2023 2:01 pm : link
In comment 16221050 81_Great_Dane said:
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Probably no better place to be a young, well-off single man than Chicago.

But the Bears have been a mess for a while now and it looks like they need to clean house. A top pick almost always goes to a bad team; there's almost no way around that. But the Bears have been especially bad. If I were running the Jets, I'd be scheming a way to get to the top. It probably wouldn't entail a big move up. With Wilson, the Jets are probably headed for a top-5 pick anyway.


If he’s trying to avoid poor management, why would he be ok with the Jets?

And that’s my point, the Jets should do everything they can to get Caleb because he isn’t likely to turn down $45m as the #1 overall pick, risking injury or being in the exact same boat in 2025.
Good chance the Bears have 2 of the top 3 or so  
Metnut : 9/25/2023 2:08 pm : link
picks in the draft. Take Williams, Harrison, Jr., and talk to Williams and hire a new coach/GM that has his confidence. Bears could turn things around almost immediately adding that much talent.
RE: Good chance the Bears have 2 of the top 3 or so  
UConn4523 : 9/25/2023 2:12 pm : link
In comment 16221070 Metnut said:
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picks in the draft. Take Williams, Harrison, Jr., and talk to Williams and hire a new coach/GM that has his confidence. Bears could turn things around almost immediately adding that much talent.


100%. If you are as good as you say you are (Caleb) he should be itching to turn that franchise around, not bitching about it. The Bears can get better in a hurry.
RE: Good chance the Bears have 2 of the top 3 or so  
bw in dc : 9/25/2023 2:27 pm : link
In comment 16221070 Metnut said:
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picks in the draft. Take Williams, Harrison, Jr., and talk to Williams and hire a new coach/GM that has his confidence. Bears could turn things around almost immediately adding that much talent.


Look, I did not like what Team Manning did to the Chargers. So, I wouldn't like it if Team Caleb pulled an Eli/Elway if he doesn't want Chicago/Zona.

But the Bears are so dysfunctional. At the very least, there would need to be a new coaching staff.

Maybe CW brings Lincoln with him... ;)
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/25/2023 2:30 pm : link
I hope Williams comes out. I don’t want to see him again after next month as an ND fan.
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bw in dc : 9/25/2023 2:33 pm : link
In comment 16221094 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I hope Williams comes out. I don’t want to see him again after next month as an ND fan.


Don't worry about it. SoCal can't stop anybody on D.

Trust me, ND will be able to score. If you establish a running game, ND will win. That's how Utah rolled USC last year. Follow that blue print.
RE: What make anyone think Caleb is any better than Justin Fields?  
BigBlue7 : 9/25/2023 2:44 pm : link
In comment 16221048 Jack Stroud said:
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I'm guessing he has functioning eye sight, because that's about all you need to see Williams is on a different planet than Fields as a QB prospect
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