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So how many years do we spend in QB purgatory now

drake88 : 11/19/2023 4:20 pm
because of this fucking useless win? Nothing more exciting than drafting a WR to pair with a shitty OL that won't let him get deep and no QBs that can throw the ball deep. How many years before Marvin Harrison Jr demands a trade?
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/19/2023 4:21 pm : link
Can we enjoy a win for at least 15 minutes?
what a loser  
newjerseygiants : 11/19/2023 4:21 pm : link
go be a fan of the Jets
Truthfully  
ripdumaine : 11/19/2023 4:23 pm : link
I like Daniels way better than Maye or Williams.....but I also never been in a world were you play to lose. We will best NE too next week so get used to not tanking
Thats  
Sammo85 : 11/19/2023 4:24 pm : link
Schoen and Dabolls problem to sort out and ensure plan for. They don’t, they’ll be fired.
You sound  
Beef Wellington : 11/19/2023 4:24 pm : link
like an assshole!
All we had to do was trade  
drake88 : 11/19/2023 4:24 pm : link
Barkley for a third. Prevents wins, prevents us from resigning him (another mistake we will surely make) and an additional asset to infuse this roster with talent. But of course we don't that.
There is only 1 QB in the draft?  
Sean : 11/19/2023 4:25 pm : link
Jayden Daniels? Bo Nix? Michael Penix?

Was it Caleb Williams who refused to talk to the media last night?
STFU  
X : 11/19/2023 4:26 pm : link
no guarantees with drafted QBs.

Can't you enjoy a win?
Season aint over  
GiantsRage2007 : 11/19/2023 4:26 pm : link
We were going to win 1 or 2 more. We’ll still be top 5. Don’t worry.
Screw you asshole....  
18E : 11/19/2023 4:27 pm : link
Glad you're upset.
There are still 6 games left  
Jay on the Island : 11/19/2023 4:27 pm : link
If they lose to NE next week that alone will move them up to the 3rd spot in a 3 QB draft. If Arizona wins also then they move up to 2.
Arizona and Chicago will  
ajr2456 : 11/19/2023 4:31 pm : link
Win some games if today is an indicator
RE: ...  
k2tampa : 11/19/2023 4:36 pm : link
In comment 16295162 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Can we enjoy a win for at least 15 minutes?


I would have enjoyed that just as much if Washington scored at the end, because of the ramifications. The best outcome would be play well, with lots of young guys getting experience (Banks, Hawkins, Hyatt) but coming up short. Anyone rooting for a 4-13 or 5-12 record is delusional.
Set your wishes on a unlikely  
joeinpa : 11/19/2023 4:37 pm : link
Goal, 2-15, then whine when it doesn’t happened.

I still think they pick top 3  
Breeze_94 : 11/19/2023 4:38 pm : link
AZ, Chicago look like teams that will win games.

At least they show some promise defensively.
Jones will almost certainly be the QB next year.  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/19/2023 4:39 pm : link
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/19/2023 4:41 pm : link
There are 6 games left.

This thread sucks.
RE: There is only 1 QB in the draft?  
Sammo85 : 11/19/2023 4:43 pm : link
In comment 16295195 Sean said:
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Jayden Daniels? Bo Nix? Michael Penix?

Was it Caleb Williams who refused to talk to the media last night?


Ewers and McCarthy likely coming out too. They’d have to transfer somewhere given situations developing in both those spots.
who knows, this might end up a blessing.  
markky : 11/19/2023 4:44 pm : link
talent evaluation trumps draft position anyway. go look at any draft and you'll see the best players are rarely picked 1-2. even QBs.

You do realize that the Giants play NE  
Jay on the Island : 11/19/2023 4:45 pm : link
next week right? If the Giants lose they will move up at least one spot. Then they have the bye and their schedule is not easy over the last 5 games.
Bitch when we lose, bitch when we win  
KDavies : 11/19/2023 4:45 pm : link
Wtf?
no wins are useless  
bc4life : 11/19/2023 4:45 pm : link
Besides, which rookie QB is going to be able to develop behind a line that gave up nine sacks and 12 tackles for loss. That's not even counting hits and hurries.
RE: RE: There is only 1 QB in the draft?  
bw in dc : 11/19/2023 4:46 pm : link
In comment 16295291 Sammo85 said:
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Ewers and McCarthy likely coming out too. They’d have to transfer somewhere given situations developing in both those spots.


Great. Ewers and McCarthy might be available. How fortunate for NFL teams who need a QB... ;)
RE: You do realize that the Giants play NE  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/19/2023 4:47 pm : link
In comment 16295296 Jay on the Island said:
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next week right? If the Giants lose they will move up at least one spot. Then they have the bye and their schedule is not easy over the last 5 games.


Jay, stop making sense.
This team was never going 2-15  
Sean : 11/19/2023 4:47 pm : link
They would have needed some luck for that to happen. The NFL isn't built that way, it is hard to do. They'll have a top 5 pick and it'll be up to Schoen to maneuver the draft correctly.
drake88  
M.S. : 11/19/2023 4:48 pm : link

You have the wrong take
You've made a mistake
Break out a grin
And celebrate the win.
There are 6 games left  
Chris684 : 11/19/2023 4:49 pm : link
Plenty of them will be losses.

Top 3 is likely where you need to be and that’s still right there.
RE: …  
Dave in Buffalo : 11/19/2023 4:51 pm : link
In comment 16295282 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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There are 6 games left.

This thread sucks.


LOL
RE: RE: You do realize that the Giants play NE  
markky : 11/19/2023 5:05 pm : link
In comment 16295309 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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In comment 16295296 Jay on the Island said:


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next week right? If the Giants lose they will move up at least one spot. Then they have the bye and their schedule is not easy over the last 5 games.



Jay, stop making sense.


we're bad enough that we could lose during the bye week.

btw, this board is whack. the opinions go from not yet being able to evaluation Jones after 4 years in the league to knowing who these 21 year olds are coming out in the draft and if we don't get one of them we're doomed. I'm just going to enjoy each win.
There's still 6 games  
logman : 11/19/2023 5:06 pm : link
7 for some teams.

The draft order doesn't solidify this weekend.
RE: There's still 6 games  
markky : 11/19/2023 5:09 pm : link
In comment 16295367 logman said:
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7 for some teams.

The draft order doesn't solidify this weekend.


yep. and we will probably be surprised by how some teams improve and some drop off in the next 7 weeks. we might even be one of them. waaay too early to worry about draft position.
Like 3  
Arcade_Games : 11/19/2023 5:11 pm : link
Don't have any illusios of getting out after next year. You are really looking at 3 years of Daniel Jones; so 2 more after this one
RE: You sound  
Sec 103 : 11/19/2023 5:22 pm : link
In comment 16295189 Beef Wellington said:
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like an assshole!


And not a hint of roids!
This is a solid draft for top QBs.....  
Simms11 : 11/19/2023 5:30 pm : link
If the Giants decide to draft a guy, in the top 10, you’d still have your pick of extremely good QBs, such as Daniels, Nix, Penix. If they don’t like any of those we draft a very good Olineman or WR and punt, no pun intended, to next season, with DJ or another Vet back up to start the season. I still think there’ll be a QB we can take and feel very comfortable with.
RE: ...  
Scooter185 : 11/19/2023 5:32 pm : link
In comment 16295162 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
[quote] Can we enjoy a win for at least 15 minutes? [/quote
Today was a huge loss
None.  
Matt M. : 11/19/2023 5:32 pm : link
We still shouldn't fall back far enough to lose out on Daniels or McCarthy. There really isn't more than 1 other gam we could reasonably expect to have a shot at winning. That's next week.
enjoyed the game  
mpinmaine : 11/19/2023 5:43 pm : link
go awayOP
F**K it. I always will take a win over Washington  
DC Gmen Fan : 11/19/2023 5:48 pm : link
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It’s not a 3 QB draft  
RCPhoenix : 11/19/2023 6:00 pm : link
Besides, if Chcago ends up with the top 2 picks Harrison Jr will be one of the two picks.

This thread reminds me of when people whined about not picking 2nd to get Chase Young. And we drafted Andrew Thomas instead
Honest question what is there to enjoy in this win?  
BestFeature : 11/19/2023 6:07 pm : link
They beat a team that's one of the few franchises that are worse than them. They beat a team that's the only team they consistently beat. They did so on the back of a good performance by a QB that likely won't be here next year and a running back that they're unlikely to resign as he himself said he has no loyalty to the Giants. If they beat a great team and it could be a building block I get it. If we had a young player go off, I get it. Beating the Commanders is as empty of a win as there is. There's really nothing positive to gain from it.

And the old tired cliche "there are no guarantees". You want what gives you the best odds. While there are no guarentees with Caleb and Maye you know there is a guarantee about, the team winning 4 games instead of two won't amount to a hill of beans anywhere other than draft position. You're comparing 0% upside of winning this game to upside that's significantly greater than 0% of losing this game and you're saying it's a good thing we won because that upside is not 100%.
RE: It’s not a 3 QB draft  
Sammo85 : 11/19/2023 6:08 pm : link
In comment 16295520 RCPhoenix said:
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Besides, if Chcago ends up with the top 2 picks Harrison Jr will be one of the two picks.

This thread reminds me of when people whined about not picking 2nd to get Chase Young. And we drafted Andrew Thomas instead


Giants were taking OL no matter what even if they got 2nd or 3rd picks that year. People can whine all they want. They were never taking Chase Young. The idea is to get players you need that are potentially elite. And when you need a QB, a higher pick helps.
RE: You sound  
Wiggy : 11/19/2023 7:13 pm : link
In comment 16295189 Beef Wellington said:
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like an assshole!
lol post of the day. And your username is my favorite meal
RE: All we had to do was trade  
Wiggy : 11/19/2023 7:15 pm : link
In comment 16295194 drake88 said:
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Barkley for a third. Prevents wins, prevents us from resigning him (another mistake we will surely make) and an additional asset to infuse this roster with talent. But of course we don't that.
praise the great almighty lord above that you have absolutely nothing to do with decision making for the team.
RE: Honest question what is there to enjoy in this win?  
EmpireWF : 11/19/2023 8:02 pm : link
In comment 16295532 BestFeature said:
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They beat a team that's one of the few franchises that are worse than them. They beat a team that's the only team they consistently beat. They did so on the back of a good performance by a QB that likely won't be here next year and a running back that they're unlikely to resign as he himself said he has no loyalty to the Giants. If they beat a great team and it could be a building block I get it. If we had a young player go off, I get it. Beating the Commanders is as empty of a win as there is. There's really nothing positive to gain from it.

And the old tired cliche "there are no guarantees". You want what gives you the best odds. While there are no guarentees with Caleb and Maye you know there is a guarantee about, the team winning 4 games instead of two won't amount to a hill of beans anywhere other than draft position. You're comparing 0% upside of winning this game to upside that's significantly greater than 0% of losing this game and you're saying it's a good thing we won because that upside is not 100%.


Tell the players there's nothing positive in their win. LOL
RE: RE: It’s not a 3 QB draft  
shyster : 11/19/2023 8:17 pm : link
In comment 16295534 Sammo85 said:
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Giants were taking OL no matter what even if they got 2nd or 3rd picks that year. People can whine all they want. They were never taking Chase Young.


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EAST RUTHERFORD - To a man, the Giants would celebrate if their team ended up with Chase Young, Ohio State’s sack master.

To a man, the same players will not tank the Giants’ last two games to make sure that happens in next April’s college draft.

Assuming the Bengals select Joe Burrow, LSU’s Heisman Trophy winning quarterback, with the first pick, whoever goes second is expected to take Young.

The Giants, even after beating Miami last Sunday for their third victory, are still in the second spot. Lurking nearby are the Redskins, the Giants’ opponent Sunday, and the Dolphins.


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RE: RE: RE: It’s not a 3 QB draft  
Sammo85 : 11/19/2023 8:48 pm : link
In comment 16295801 shyster said:
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In comment 16295534 Sammo85 said:


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Giants were taking OL no matter what even if they got 2nd or 3rd picks that year. People can whine all they want. They were never taking Chase Young.





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EAST RUTHERFORD - To a man, the Giants would celebrate if their team ended up with Chase Young, Ohio State’s sack master.

To a man, the same players will not tank the Giants’ last two games to make sure that happens in next April’s college draft.

Assuming the Bengals select Joe Burrow, LSU’s Heisman Trophy winning quarterback, with the first pick, whoever goes second is expected to take Young.

The Giants, even after beating Miami last Sunday for their third victory, are still in the second spot. Lurking nearby are the Redskins, the Giants’ opponent Sunday, and the Dolphins.

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Giants were locked in OL and never moved off it.
RE: RE: RE: RE: It’s not a 3 QB draft  
shyster : 11/19/2023 8:54 pm : link
In comment 16295868 Sammo85 said:
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Giants were locked in OL and never moved off it.


That was not the talk at the time and I've cited one of many sources that would back that up. Up to you to do likewise.
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Sammo85 : 11/19/2023 8:58 pm : link
In comment 16295883 shyster said:
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In comment 16295868 Sammo85 said:


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Giants were locked in OL and never moved off it.



That was not the talk at the time and I've cited one of many sources that would back that up. Up to you to do likewise.


A NJ.com article is not a source. It’s a nonsense article.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: It’s not a 3 QB draft  
shyster : 11/19/2023 9:27 pm : link
In comment 16295890 Sammo85 said:
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A NJ.com article is not a source. It’s a nonsense article.


BBI pre-draft thread addressing the hypothetical of Chase Young still being available at 4. The views expressed are virtually unanimous that NYG should and would take him.

If you claim greater insight than the board, tell us why.


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Once Mara let's the guys who are Professionals  
St. Jimmy : 11/19/2023 9:45 pm : link
do their job.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: It’s not a 3 QB draft  
Sammo85 : 11/19/2023 10:21 pm : link
In comment 16295941 shyster said:
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In comment 16295890 Sammo85 said:


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A NJ.com article is not a source. It’s a nonsense article.



BBI pre-draft thread addressing the hypothetical of Chase Young still being available at 4. The views expressed are virtually unanimous that NYG should and would take him.

If you claim greater insight than the board, tell us why.
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I was told flat out by some one who sat right next to Gettleman in front office meetings. They were taking an OL and knew it for months before season ended.
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