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College Football Rivalry Weekend

Costy16 : 11/25/2023 9:00 am
Some notable games today with playoff seeding implications.

Ohio State at Michigan 12PM
Kentucky at Louisville 12PM
Alabama at Auburn 3:30
Washington St at Washington 4:00
Florida State at Florida 7:00
Georgia at Georgia Tech 7:30
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/25/2023 9:04 am : link
Huge-HUGE-game for Ryan Day.
Really want to see Texas vs LSU  
blueblood : 11/25/2023 9:05 am : link
Jayden Daniels has been killing it..
Michigan & Ohio State  
Costy16 : 11/25/2023 9:08 am : link
Are the two teams I dislike the most in college football. But I absolutely loathe Michigan like I do the Eagles, I hope Ohio State embarrasses them today.
RE: Michigan & Ohio State  
X : 11/25/2023 9:14 am : link
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Are the two teams I dislike the most in college football. But I absolutely loathe Michigan like I do the Eagles, I hope Ohio State embarrasses them today.

Same here, I don't like either team. I want Michigan to lose because of Harbough.
RE: Really want to see Texas vs LSU  
k2tampa : 11/25/2023 9:25 am : link
In comment 16300538 blueblood said:
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Jayden Daniels has been killing it..


LSU doesn't play Texas??
Think OSU gets their W today  
JT039 : 11/25/2023 9:32 am : link
All depends on McCarthys health. He needs to be mobile and make plays outside the tackles cause Michigans tackles are awful. But if he is playing with an MCL injury - he will be greatly compromised.

Can’t wait to see Will Johnson vs. Harrison. Johnson is a true Sophomore who will probably be a corner to look at next year and well and Harrison is just so damn good.

Think it will be low scoring.

20-13 OSU
You forgot  
Pete in MD : 11/25/2023 9:53 am : link
the contrived Maryland/Rutgers rivalry :-)
RE: RE: Really want to see Texas vs LSU  
Costy16 : 11/25/2023 9:53 am : link
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Jayden Daniels has been killing it..



LSU doesn't play Texas??


Texas A+M
I am rooting for McCarthy to have a huge day in a huge game  
GiantBlue : 11/25/2023 10:06 am : link
The more QB's that flood the first round of the draft, the better it is for the Giants if they have a guy they want, want to trade down or trade up into the back end of round 1.



RE: I am rooting for McCarthy to have a huge day in a huge game  
Maijay : 11/25/2023 10:14 am : link
In comment 16300585 GiantBlue said:
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The more QB's that flood the first round of the draft, the better it is for the Giants if they have a guy they want, want to trade down or trade up into the back end of round 1.
Just thinking the same thing.

College lock and loads  
Earl the goat : 11/25/2023 10:17 am : link
SMU
Oklahoma St
Liberty
Northern Illinois
Over Jax st and NMSU
Central Florida

Lay the wood

Good luck
Go Blue!!!  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 10:48 am : link
McCarthy needs to make better decisions than he did against Maryland.

I expect the game will come down to who wins the line of scrimmage. The two sophomore DTs for Michigan - Mason Graham and Kenneth Grant - are beasts. Either of Keegan & Zinter - the OGs for Michigan - would look good on the Giants.

Will Johnson did not have a great game against Maryland - he needs to play better today too.
RE: RE: Really want to see Texas vs LSU  
blueblood : 11/25/2023 11:25 am : link
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Jayden Daniels has been killing it..



LSU doesn't play Texas??


Texas A&M
Bleacher Report  
GiantGrit : 11/25/2023 11:27 am : link
Saying if Day loses look for him to possibly bolt for the A&M gig.
Brandon Brown & Tim McConnell at Michigan-OSU  
Sean : 11/25/2023 11:33 am : link
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RE: Brandon Brown & Tim McConnell at Michigan-OSU  
Anakim : 11/25/2023 11:52 am : link
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Hell, I'd be surprised if we didn't have a strong contingent there. #2 vs. #3. Marvin Harrison Jr., JJ McCarthy...
RE: RE: Brandon Brown & Tim McConnell at Michigan-OSU  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 11:55 am : link
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Hell, I'd be surprised if we didn't have a strong contingent there. #2 vs. #3. Marvin Harrison Jr., JJ McCarthy...


Zinter & Keegan
Minor pet peeve  
BigBlueShock : 11/25/2023 12:01 pm : link
I can’t stand Michigan but they’ve got awesome, classic uniforms. Why do they feel the need to screw that up with blue pants? The Navy tops and yellow pants really pop on the television and and that’s what I want to see when I’m watching OSU/Michigan, as a neutral fan. Can’t stand the dark unis being the same top and bottom.

Sorry for the rant, I feel better getting that off my chest, lol
RE: RE: Michigan & Ohio State  
Spider56 : 11/25/2023 12:04 pm : link
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Are the two teams I dislike the most in college football. But I absolutely loathe Michigan like I do the Eagles, I hope Ohio State embarrasses them today.


Same here, I don't like either team. I want Michigan to lose because of Harbough.


Ryan Day isn’t exactly Miss Congeniality. Both coaches are equally unlikeable but the Michigan fans are much more humane than those in Columbus.
RE: RE: RE: Brandon Brown & Tim McConnell at Michigan-OSU  
Anakim : 11/25/2023 12:08 pm : link
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Hell, I'd be surprised if we didn't have a strong contingent there. #2 vs. #3. Marvin Harrison Jr., JJ McCarthy...



Zinter & Keegan


Donovan Jackson
Bad drop  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 12:19 pm : link
Leads to a 3 and out.
Playcalling for Michigan is brutal  
Toth029 : 11/25/2023 12:33 pm : link
No chance for anything.
RE: RE: RE: Really want to see Texas vs LSU  
Pete in MD : 11/25/2023 12:34 pm : link
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Jayden Daniels has been killing it..



LSU doesn't play Texas??



Texas A&M

Texas doesn’t play Texas A&M this season either. They played Texas Tech last night
Stupid throw by McCord  
Anakim : 11/25/2023 12:37 pm : link
Harrison didn’t fight for the ball, but McCord was completely zeroed in there.
McCord  
MookGiants : 11/25/2023 12:37 pm : link
isn't very good and the ball should not have gone there but Harrison hung him out to dry
I’ve gone from  
Lambuth_Special : 11/25/2023 12:39 pm : link
Watching Michigan to monitor McCarthy as a Giants prospect to watching Michigan to see if they’ll win a title without McCarthy having to make a single throw of note.
is that bredesons brother?  
bigbluewillrise : 11/25/2023 12:42 pm : link
FB
RE: is that bredesons brother?  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 12:43 pm : link
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Yes
RE: is that bredesons brother?  
GiantGrit : 11/25/2023 12:44 pm : link
In comment 16300692 bigbluewillrise said:
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Just checked, he is.
RE: McCord  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 12:44 pm : link
In comment 16300687 MookGiants said:
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isn't very good and the ball should not have gone there but Harrison hung him out to dry


Johnson outplayed him.
RE: Playcalling for Michigan is brutal  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 12:46 pm : link
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No chance for anything.


Ohio State has a great D.
Don't watch this game for the QB play.  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 11/25/2023 12:47 pm : link
Watch it for the D Line play. Monsters on both sides.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Really want to see Texas vs LSU  
Pete in MD : 11/25/2023 12:49 pm : link
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Jayden Daniels has been killing it..



LSU doesn't play Texas??



Texas A&M


Texas doesn’t play Texas A&M this season either. They played Texas Tech last night

Ah now I get it, A&M play LSU today.
McCord looks overwhelmed...  
bw in dc : 11/25/2023 12:53 pm : link
If I'm Day, I might get the bullpen up.

Realize Ohio St and Mich have strong defenses but these  
ThomasG : 11/25/2023 12:54 pm : link
QBs and offenses aren’t good at all.

Other undefeated teams (and probably 1 or 2 one-loss teams) are much better overall.

RE: McCord looks overwhelmed...  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 12:54 pm : link
In comment 16300711 bw in dc said:
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If I'm Day, I might get the bullpen up.


He is overwhelmed.
RE: Realize Ohio St and Mich have strong defenses but these  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 12:55 pm : link
In comment 16300712 ThomasG said:
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QBs and offenses aren’t good at all.

Other undefeated teams (and probably 1 or 2 one-loss teams) are much better overall.


We’ll see if McCarthy gets to throw much. McCord is rattled
Texas crushed Texas Tech last nigh in every phase of the game  
PatersonPlank : 11/25/2023 12:56 pm : link
and they they showed the video of the Big 12 Commissioner saying he was going to Austin and rooting for Tech on their stadium video screen. LOL
Loveland is really good  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 12:57 pm : link
Only a sophomore
Another Time out?  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 12:58 pm : link
Yikes
RE: Loveland is really good  
ThomasG : 11/25/2023 12:59 pm : link
In comment 16300717 RCPhoenix said:
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Only a sophomore


Yes, he is a weapon that should be used more.
I stlll can't' understand any hype around McCarthy  
JOrthman : 11/25/2023 1:01 pm : link
Michigan is all about their D, the line and RB's. Nothing about him jumps out at you.
RE: RE: Loveland is really good  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 1:02 pm : link
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Only a sophomore



Yes, he is a weapon that should be used more.


He will be today. He had some critical catches last week
RE: RE: Realize Ohio St and Mich have strong defenses but these  
DonnieD89 : 11/25/2023 1:04 pm : link
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QBs and offenses aren’t good at all.

Other undefeated teams (and probably 1 or 2 one-loss teams) are much better overall.




We’ll see if McCarthy gets to throw much. McCord is rattled


McCord has been practically inept so far this game.
McCarthy  
MookGiants : 11/25/2023 1:08 pm : link
was a full yard short of that first and the ref somehow gave it to him
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/25/2023 1:08 pm : link
That’s not a first.
this would be a perfect  
MookGiants : 11/25/2023 1:10 pm : link
play action time
RE: this would be a perfect  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 1:11 pm : link
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play action time


Ding ding ding
How can A&M  
DonnieD89 : 11/25/2023 1:14 pm : link
not cover Nabours?
thats a touchdown  
MookGiants : 11/25/2023 1:14 pm : link
he had it before the ball broke the plane, play is over
Wow!  
Koffman : 11/25/2023 1:14 pm : link
Nice throw by JJ
That was a nice pass by McCarthy  
jeff57 : 11/25/2023 1:14 pm : link
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That's a TD - he lands on the ground with the ball.  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 11/25/2023 1:15 pm : link
The guy rips it out after.
That was a tremendous throw  
BlueHurricane : 11/25/2023 1:15 pm : link
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RE: How can A&M  
DonnieD89 : 11/25/2023 1:15 pm : link
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not cover Nabours?
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Ahhh… it was a pick.
That's a TD  
JOrthman : 11/25/2023 1:15 pm : link
The ball isn't pulled away until well after he crossed the plane.
I think that should have been overturned  
ajr2456 : 11/25/2023 1:15 pm : link
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I think Klatt just makes stuff up sometimes  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 11/25/2023 1:15 pm : link
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That  
AcidTest : 11/25/2023 1:15 pm : link
TD throw just made McCarthy some money. Wow. That was gorgeous. Aaron Rodgers would have been proud of that throw.
if the defender turns around hepicks the ball off  
bigbluewillrise : 11/25/2023 1:15 pm : link
JJ threw that into double coverage
All right JJ  
Lambuth_Special : 11/25/2023 1:15 pm : link
Hell of a throw
RE: That  
bigbluewillrise : 11/25/2023 1:16 pm : link
In comment 16300751 AcidTest said:
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TD throw just made McCarthy some money. Wow. That was gorgeous. Aaron Rodgers would have been proud of that throw.


the defender should have turned around.
Now that was a big time throw  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 1:16 pm : link
McCord needs to step it up big time
I like Klatt  
JOrthman : 11/25/2023 1:16 pm : link
but seems like he's pulling for Ohio state.
That  
AcidTest : 11/25/2023 1:16 pm : link
was a TD. He had control of the ball when he crossed the goal line IMO.
RE: RE: That  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 1:17 pm : link
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TD throw just made McCarthy some money. Wow. That was gorgeous. Aaron Rodgers would have been proud of that throw.



the defender should have turned around.


The defender didn’t know the ball was coming. That happens in the NFL too

I know people can knock McCarthy but that was a NFL type throw.
RE: That's a TD  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 1:18 pm : link
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The ball isn't pulled away until well after he crossed the plane.


Seriously- once he crosses the plane the ball is dead. Klatt was talking out of his ass
JJ  
Hilary : 11/25/2023 1:19 pm : link
Played hurt last week. Hurt in PSU game.
He will win or lose this game for Michigan. OSU will
score.
RE: RE: RE: That  
Lambuth_Special : 11/25/2023 1:19 pm : link
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TD throw just made McCarthy some money. Wow. That was gorgeous. Aaron Rodgers would have been proud of that throw.



the defender should have turned around.



The defender didn’t know the ball was coming. That happens in the NFL too

I know people can knock McCarthy but that was a NFL type throw.


Yeah in the NFL you have to take advantage when the defender doesn’t have leverage. It’s something our QB1 has problems with.
Nice pass by  
DonnieD89 : 11/25/2023 1:21 pm : link
McCord.
That call on Graham was weak  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 1:28 pm : link
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Becoming a JJ fan today.  
BlueHurricane : 11/25/2023 1:33 pm : link
Some big plays in a big game
Another  
AcidTest : 11/25/2023 1:33 pm : link
phenomenal throw by McCarthy. On the run, out of the pocket, being chased, and he puts it right on the WR who is up against the sideline.
Nice  
Toth029 : 11/25/2023 1:33 pm : link
Dart
McCarthy didn’t look too pretty  
DonnieD89 : 11/25/2023 1:35 pm : link
that play.
Michigan isn’t winning  
JT039 : 11/25/2023 1:35 pm : link
By running on first down every time. They have to open it up.
Game turning  
Hilary : 11/25/2023 1:36 pm : link
OSU pass rush much better than
Wolverine rush today.
Helluva  
Toth029 : 11/25/2023 1:36 pm : link
Punt
RE: Helluva  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 1:37 pm : link
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He did that last week too.

It’s too bad the Giants’ punter can never do that
Great  
AcidTest : 11/25/2023 1:45 pm : link
throw by McCord, and an even better catch by MHJ.
Marvin Harrison is good.  
markky : 11/25/2023 1:45 pm : link
I wouldn't be upset if he's who we end with
This LSU-A&M game...  
bw in dc : 11/25/2023 1:58 pm : link
is unbelievable.

A&M has over 2:1 TOP and #of plays compared to LSU.

Daniels can't get on the field.
A&M is up by 10 points..  
DonnieD89 : 11/25/2023 1:58 pm : link
They are basically keeping Jayden Daniels off the field.
Another big run  
DonnieD89 : 11/25/2023 2:04 pm : link
by Daniels.
Daniels with over 100 on the ground  
jeff57 : 11/25/2023 2:06 pm : link
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RE: Daniels with over 100 on the ground  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 2:07 pm : link
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He is so slight. Great talent but he looks like he’s going to break in half
Daniels  
MookGiants : 11/25/2023 2:08 pm : link
is Lamar while being a much more advanced passer at this stage. Incredible speed and arm. Definitely needs to add bulk and avoid big hits but the talent is just insane
if Bryce Young's  
MookGiants : 11/25/2023 2:10 pm : link
size wasn't an issue for teams and he went #1 then Daniels size, who is much taller and physically a much more talented player, shouldnt be an issue
RE: if Bryce Young's  
bw in dc : 11/25/2023 2:12 pm : link
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size wasn't an issue for teams and he went #1 then Daniels size, who is much taller and physically a much more talented player, shouldnt be an issue


Exactly. And Daniels has a Gumby-like quality with his ability to bounce off hits and get up quickly.
RE: RE: Daniels with over 100 on the ground  
DonnieD89 : 11/25/2023 2:15 pm : link
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He is so slight. Great talent but he looks like he’s going to break in half


I really think Daniels is tough. He’s been taking some hits and has been hard to bring down against a good defense.
Wolverines getting all the initial  
Sec 103 : 11/25/2023 2:15 pm : link
Calls. Guy was way out of bounds
this LSU  
MookGiants : 11/25/2023 2:18 pm : link
defense is a total disgrace
RE: Wolverines getting all the initial  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 2:18 pm : link
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Calls. Guy was way out of bounds


Calm down, they reversed it
Henderson  
MookGiants : 11/25/2023 2:18 pm : link
8 for 8 on 3rd down. That's comically bad
their  
MookGiants : 11/25/2023 2:19 pm : link
corners play 10 yards off the ball on every play giving them a free 7-8 yards whenever they want
RE: RE: if Bryce Young's  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 2:19 pm : link
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size wasn't an issue for teams and he went #1 then Daniels size, who is much taller and physically a much more talented player, shouldnt be an issue



Exactly. And Daniels has a Gumby-like quality with his ability to bounce off hits and get up quickly.


Don’t get me wrong, I like Daniels. Just surprised at how skinny he is
they haven't  
MookGiants : 11/25/2023 2:21 pm : link
put up an ounce of resistance all game.
If LSU loses this game,  
DonnieD89 : 11/25/2023 2:21 pm : link
It’s because they’re defense is horrible. A&M has just been racking up the Minutes while on offense.
Is this the Ryan Day network?  
JOrthman : 11/25/2023 2:21 pm : link
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QB is 9-9  
JT039 : 11/25/2023 2:24 pm : link
On third down and you call a draw inside the 20 and miss the field goal to boot.

Why bad teams are bad.

Coaching
Michigan coaching is playing scared  
JT039 : 11/25/2023 2:26 pm : link
Offense ultra conservative once again and their defense is just playing base all game.

Ohio State hasn’t been slowed down in 4 possessions now.
Ohio State is just  
DonnieD89 : 11/25/2023 2:27 pm : link
Smash Mouthing Michigan’s defense.
Ohio State...  
bw in dc : 11/25/2023 2:28 pm : link
has found something between the tackles.

Will be interesting to see how Michigan adjusts...
Ohio State isgonna win this game.  
DonnieD89 : 11/25/2023 2:29 pm : link
They are going to set up the play action after this series.
Game is Ohio States  
JT039 : 11/25/2023 2:29 pm : link
Moore and Minter showing their youth at the helm.

Michigan has no game plan offensively or defensively. Playing not to lose.
RE: Ohio State...  
JT039 : 11/25/2023 2:30 pm : link
In comment 16300851 bw in dc said:
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has found something between the tackles.

Will be interesting to see how Michigan adjusts...


Might be too late to adjust. Momentum is pretty real thing. Ohio State found weaknesses. Michigan will try to put a square peg in round hole.
Why does Ohio State v Michigan  
cjac : 11/25/2023 2:39 pm : link
Always take more than 4 hours to play.
RE: Why does Ohio State v Michigan  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 2:40 pm : link
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Always take more than 4 hours to play.


Because it’s always on Fox and they have a ton of commercials
RE: Game is Ohio States  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 2:41 pm : link
In comment 16300853 JT039 said:
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Moore and Minter showing their youth at the helm.

Michigan has no game plan offensively or defensively. Playing not to lose.


Not on this drive Michigan isn’t.

As for the D - Michigan was beat in the trenches on that Ohio State TD. That’s not on Minter
Beautiful catch by Thomas!  
DonnieD89 : 11/25/2023 2:42 pm : link
Beautiful, pass by Daniels!
Zinter was an interesting prodpect  
JT039 : 11/25/2023 2:43 pm : link
For a Guard. All American Canddiate.

This is a huge blow for him. He’s a really good player.
Terrible injury  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 2:43 pm : link
I’m glad they didn’t show it
Thomas Jr...  
bw in dc : 11/25/2023 2:43 pm : link
continues to make his case to be a round one WR.
TD  
jeff57 : 11/25/2023 2:43 pm : link
Daniels to Thomas
RE: Thomas Jr...  
DonnieD89 : 11/25/2023 2:44 pm : link
In comment 16300864 bw in dc said:
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continues to make his case to be a round one WR.


How about Danielle’s round one for Giants and Thomas Junior round two for Giants? Maybe wishful thinking, as I have to agree that he is making the case to be in the first round as a wide receiver.
RE: RE: Thomas Jr...  
bw in dc : 11/25/2023 2:46 pm : link
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continues to make his case to be a round one WR.



How about Danielle’s round one for Giants and Thomas Junior round two for Giants? Maybe wishful thinking, as I have to agree that he is making the case to be in the first round as a wide receiver.


I would contend many of the people I respect on this board would sign for that in a millisecond.

RE: RE: Daniels with over 100 on the ground  
jeff57 : 11/25/2023 2:46 pm : link
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He is so slight. Great talent but he looks like he’s going to break in half


He’s about 5 inches taller than Young. But his upper body looks just as slight.
Big run for Michigan  
jvm52106 : 11/25/2023 2:47 pm : link
And Corum.. He would be a nice 2nd back. Love Michigan's response there.
That was huge  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 2:48 pm : link
Let’s see how Ohio State responds
RE: RE: Thomas Jr...  
allstarjim : 11/25/2023 2:48 pm : link
In comment 16300868 DonnieD89 said:
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continues to make his case to be a round one WR.



How about Daniels round one for Giants and Thomas Jr round two for Giants? Maybe wishful thinking, as I have to agree that he is making the case to be in the first round as a wide receiver.


Hell of a play by those two. I would sign up for that.

The more of these premium receivers in the draft the better. Better chance one of them makes it to round 2. I wouldn't be opposed to a trade up, however, if an uber-talent falls to the 20s, such as Malik Nabers.
What a hit  
JT039 : 11/25/2023 2:49 pm : link
By the safety. Wow.
That hit by the safety  
jvm52106 : 11/25/2023 2:50 pm : link
Is Perfect.. You keep your helmet-head and neck clear of contact and still lay the wood on the receiver.
RE: Thomas Jr...  
JT039 : 11/25/2023 2:50 pm : link
In comment 16300864 bw in dc said:
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You’ve been on him for awhile. Nice call.

Nabers may not be in play but he’s al very nice find.
The momentum has changed  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 2:50 pm : link
Michigan is fired up after the Zinter injury
RE: If LSU loses this game,  
blueblood : 11/25/2023 2:51 pm : link
In comment 16300843 DonnieD89 said:
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It’s because they’re defense is horrible. A&M has just been racking up the Minutes while on offense.


LSU defense been terrible all year long.
RE: The momentum has changed  
jvm52106 : 11/25/2023 2:51 pm : link
In comment 16300883 RCPhoenix said:
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Michigan is fired up after the Zinter injury


Michigan scores here this game will be over..
RE: RE: The momentum has changed  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 2:54 pm : link
In comment 16300885 jvm52106 said:
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Michigan is fired up after the Zinter injury



Michigan scores here this game will be over..


Yeah - Ohio State had the run game going on their TD but if they are down 2 scores that goes out the window.
RE: That hit by the safety  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 2:55 pm : link
In comment 16300881 jvm52106 said:
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Is Perfect.. You keep your helmet-head and neck clear of contact and still lay the wood on the receiver.


And use your arms to hit the WR.

And that’s a WR who I would not mind the Giants getting with one of their two second round picks if he’s still there.
Another beautiful throw by  
DonnieD89 : 11/25/2023 2:59 pm : link
Daniels, and quite a TD catch by Nabours.
Corum is going to shine in the NFL  
JOrthman : 11/25/2023 2:59 pm : link
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Beautiful throw from Daniels  
allstarjim : 11/25/2023 2:59 pm : link
On the fade to Nabers. Another beautifully placed ball.
That’s the conservativeness  
JT039 : 11/25/2023 3:00 pm : link
You can’t have inside the 20. They got their FG but a TD would have probably ended the game.
Brian Thomas Jr. is my #4 WR  
Anakim : 11/25/2023 3:00 pm : link
Behind MHJ, Keon Coleman and Rome Odunze. I like him better than his teammate Nabers, who will likely win the Biletnikoff.
RE: That’s the conservativeness  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 3:02 pm : link
In comment 16300894 JT039 said:
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You can’t have inside the 20. They got their FG but a TD would have probably ended the game.


Ohio State’s D made a play. It happens.

And the Edwards throw was anything but conservative to get them down there.
Malik Nabers  
DonnieD89 : 11/25/2023 3:03 pm : link
Tracked that ball beautifully.
I like Maye and Williams  
MookGiants : 11/25/2023 3:04 pm : link
a lot but I'm convinced Daniels is the best of the bunch. The only thing you could even consider a negative is his build. Physical ability I don't think there's anyone better. His arm is incredible. Forget his speed for a second. Just on arm talent alone he's a top QB prospect.
RE: I like Maye and Williams  
DonnieD89 : 11/25/2023 3:05 pm : link
In comment 16300899 MookGiants said:
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a lot but I'm convinced Daniels is the best of the bunch. The only thing you could even consider a negative is his build. Physical ability I don't think there's anyone better. His arm is incredible. Forget his speed for a second. Just on arm talent alone he's a top QB prospect.


Daniel took some hits during this game, and for some reason slipped out of some of them.
Ho hum  
Anakim : 11/25/2023 3:08 pm : link
Another Marvin Harrison Jr. TD
The LSU defense  
DonnieD89 : 11/25/2023 3:08 pm : link
cannot even tackle tackling dummy.
RE: I like Maye and Williams  
allstarjim : 11/25/2023 3:09 pm : link
In comment 16300899 MookGiants said:
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a lot but I'm convinced Daniels is the best of the bunch. The only thing you could even consider a negative is his build. Physical ability I don't think there's anyone better. His arm is incredible. Forget his speed for a second. Just on arm talent alone he's a top QB prospect.


I'm with you. I don't see his body type much different from C.J. Stroud, either, and Stroud has been phenomenal and has played every game.

I will be eagerly anticipating the combine measurements, though.
Michigans base defense  
JT039 : 11/25/2023 3:10 pm : link
Is being exposed.

Hasn’t blitzed. Just guys standing. All started with the awful play calling in the red zone. You cannot play to lose in this game.
Good answer by Ohio State  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 3:10 pm : link
Definitely a much closer game than the last two.
RE: Michigans base defense  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 3:12 pm : link
In comment 16300907 JT039 said:
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Is being exposed.

Hasn’t blitzed. Just guys standing. All started with the awful play calling in the red zone. You cannot play to lose in this game.


They are without their top CB. Blitzing has risks too.

Your hate of the Michigan coaching staff is off the charts.

Oh, and their head coach isn’t on the sidelines
That missed FG...  
bw in dc : 11/25/2023 3:14 pm : link
at the end of the first half by Ohio State, especially after he made it initially, looms large.
RE: RE: I like Maye and Williams  
santacruzom : 11/25/2023 3:14 pm : link
In comment 16300900 DonnieD89 said:
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a lot but I'm convinced Daniels is the best of the bunch. The only thing you could even consider a negative is his build. Physical ability I don't think there's anyone better. His arm is incredible. Forget his speed for a second. Just on arm talent alone he's a top QB prospect.



Daniel took some hits during this game, and for some reason slipped out of some of them.


My guess behind the reason is he was probably trying not to be tackled.
RE: RE: RE: I like Maye and Williams  
DonnieD89 : 11/25/2023 3:18 pm : link
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a lot but I'm convinced Daniels is the best of the bunch. The only thing you could even consider a negative is his build. Physical ability I don't think there's anyone better. His arm is incredible. Forget his speed for a second. Just on arm talent alone he's a top QB prospect.



Daniel took some hits during this game, and for some reason slipped out of some of them.



My guess behind the reason is he was probably trying not to be tackled.


It kind of reminds me when the Giants tried to hit Randall Cunningham in the red zone, and for some reason he got hit and stayed on his feet, then making the play for a touchdown.
Damn!  
DonnieD89 : 11/25/2023 3:19 pm : link
Same identical play, but to Lacey for a touchdown.
RE: That missed FG...  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 3:20 pm : link
In comment 16300913 bw in dc said:
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at the end of the first half by Ohio State, especially after he made it initially, looms large.


The gave changed on the Zinter injury
4 TDs for Daniels  
jeff57 : 11/25/2023 3:20 pm : link
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RE: RE: Michigans base defense  
JT039 : 11/25/2023 3:20 pm : link
In comment 16300910 RCPhoenix said:
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Is being exposed.

Hasn’t blitzed. Just guys standing. All started with the awful play calling in the red zone. You cannot play to lose in this game.



They are without their top CB. Blitzing has risks too.

Your hate of the Michigan coaching staff is off the charts.

Oh, and their head coach isn’t on the sidelines


I know he isn’t. It’s a huge disadvantage for them. But being ultra conservative all the time hasn’t worked either.
.  
charlito : 11/25/2023 3:21 pm : link
1. Caleb
2. Jayden

Hopefully the Giants can get either one. 🤞
RE: RE: RE: Michigans base defense  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 3:22 pm : link
In comment 16300925 JT039 said:
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Is being exposed.

Hasn’t blitzed. Just guys standing. All started with the awful play calling in the red zone. You cannot play to lose in this game.



They are without their top CB. Blitzing has risks too.

Your hate of the Michigan coaching staff is off the charts.

Oh, and their head coach isn’t on the sidelines



I know he isn’t. It’s a huge disadvantage for them. But being ultra conservative all the time hasn’t worked either.


Their offense is setting them up to run the clock out here.
OMFG Fox with the commercials  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 3:23 pm : link
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If Michigan gets stopped  
JT039 : 11/25/2023 3:23 pm : link
And kicks a FG.

Will give OSU 1:15 around and 0 timeouts for the TD.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Michigans base defense  
JT039 : 11/25/2023 3:24 pm : link
In comment 16300928 RCPhoenix said:
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Their offense is setting them up to run the clock out here.


Agreed. Great drive. Just really hated their play calling in the red zone. Thought a TD would have ended it.
its a 3 man draft  
bigbluewillrise : 11/25/2023 3:24 pm : link
Daniels will go top 3.

RE: I like Maye and Williams  
NJBlueTuna : 11/25/2023 3:25 pm : link
In comment 16300899 MookGiants said:
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a lot but I'm convinced Daniels is the best of the bunch. The only thing you could even consider a negative is his build. Physical ability I don't think there's anyone better. His arm is incredible. Forget his speed for a second. Just on arm talent alone he's a top QB prospect.


It’s his release. I have heard analysts and scouts say his release is the best they have seen coming out of college in years.
RE: its a 3 man draft  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 3:26 pm : link
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Daniels will go top 3.


Depends who is picking on top 3. Harrison Jr will be the first non QB chosen
RE: RE: its a 3 man draft  
bigbluewillrise : 11/25/2023 3:27 pm : link
In comment 16300934 RCPhoenix said:
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Daniels will go top 3.




Depends who is picking on top 3. Harrison Jr will be the first non QB chosen


qbs get pushed up.
someone will go get him for a trade.
OSU will get a chance  
JT039 : 11/25/2023 3:29 pm : link
1:00 is an entirety.
Michigan picks up big yards  
ripdumaine : 11/25/2023 3:29 pm : link
On outside...then 3 straight into the gut...makes o sense
RE: its a 3 man draft  
santacruzom : 11/25/2023 3:29 pm : link
In comment 16300932 bigbluewillrise said:
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Daniels will go top 3.


You're not trying to say that the players outside of Maye, Williams, and Daniels are all inconsequential are you?
I still think Williams is the top QB prospect  
jeff57 : 11/25/2023 3:31 pm : link
But I’d put Daniels a clear second.
3 rd down  
Hilary : 11/25/2023 3:32 pm : link
Would have tried to throw for 1st
If you were to pick a quarterback to  
DonnieD89 : 11/25/2023 3:33 pm : link
Endure the New York media, I would rather have Daniels. Williams will fold like a lawn chair after his first loss And then facing the New York media after.
Didn’t have possession  
jeff57 : 11/25/2023 3:35 pm : link
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2 steps and started turning  
UConn4523 : 11/25/2023 3:36 pm : link
IMO it’s a catch
I think the play will stand.  
DonnieD89 : 11/25/2023 3:36 pm : link
Not enough evidence to overturn.
That’s clearly a catch  
bubba0825 : 11/25/2023 3:36 pm : link
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Real close  
Mark from Jersey : 11/25/2023 3:36 pm : link
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This is a nailbiter.  
DonnieD89 : 11/25/2023 3:37 pm : link
Watch Harrison catch a touchdown pass.
That does it  
jeff57 : 11/25/2023 3:37 pm : link
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Wow!  
DonnieD89 : 11/25/2023 3:38 pm : link
Great game!!
DL  
Toth029 : 11/25/2023 3:38 pm : link
Gets it when they needed it
HAIL  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 3:39 pm : link
Ryan Day is toast
RE: HAIL  
MookGiants : 11/25/2023 3:41 pm : link
In comment 16300956 RCPhoenix said:
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Ryan Day is toast


What exactly do you mean by toast? Surely you don't think they're going to fire him, do you?

Georgia will need to cooperate to lose to Michigan or whoever they face. If they play their A game no one is sniffing beating them
I dislike both teams  
Jersey Heel : 11/25/2023 3:41 pm : link
So, I just wanted an exciting game. Certainly got it.
RE: HAIL  
bw in dc : 11/25/2023 3:42 pm : link
In comment 16300956 RCPhoenix said:
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Ryan Day is toast


Why?

Cowherd  
BigBlueCane : 11/25/2023 3:42 pm : link
is gonna light into OSU on Monday.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/25/2023 3:43 pm : link
Ryan Day is now 1-3 vs. Michigan. That won’t fly in Columbus.
RE: RE: its a 3 man draft  
bigbluewillrise : 11/25/2023 3:45 pm : link
In comment 16300939 santacruzom said:
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Daniels will go top 3.




You're not trying to say that the players outside of Maye, Williams, and Daniels are all inconsequential are you?


for the giants yes, we cant come back with DJ.
That was a great game  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 3:45 pm : link
Party in Ann Arbor
Well that should put  
section125 : 11/25/2023 3:45 pm : link
FSU back in the top 4 as long as they take care of business. (never should have been taken out to begin with)

Congrats to Michigan.
RE: …  
MookGiants : 11/25/2023 3:46 pm : link
In comment 16300962 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Ryan Day is now 1-3 vs. Michigan. That won’t fly in Columbus.


They're not going to fire him, and Michigan is likely in for a big reset in the off-season. They lose a ton and likely will lose their head coach. Ryan Day is a total asshole but he also was a missed field goal away from winning a national championship last year.
RE: RE: HAIL  
GiantGrit : 11/25/2023 3:46 pm : link
In comment 16300958 MookGiants said:
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Ryan Day is toast



What exactly do you mean by toast? Surely you don't think they're going to fire him, do you?

Georgia will need to cooperate to lose to Michigan or whoever they face. If they play their A game no one is sniffing beating them


He may be politely nudged into taking the A&M job
RE: RE: HAIL  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 3:49 pm : link
In comment 16300960 bw in dc said:
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Ryan Day is toast



Why?


B/c he has lost three straight to Michigan
Great  
AcidTest : 11/25/2023 3:49 pm : link
win by Michigan.
RE: I still think Williams is the top QB prospect  
NJBlueTuna : 11/25/2023 3:50 pm : link
In comment 16300941 jeff57 said:
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But I’d put Daniels a clear second.


The lead up to the draft is a funny and real thing. Williams will be dissected mentally and physically. Only knock on Daniels is his slender frame but everyone knows that is addressed by a nfl weight and strength program. Will add 10-15 pounds easily.

Something to think about…look at what Jackson is doing for Baltimore this year. Daniels is a much better passer at this stage and his release time is off the charts. Daniels has a legit chance to go #1. Remember, it only takes one team to be smitten with him….
I think Williams is pretty far ahead of Daniels  
jinkies : 11/25/2023 3:52 pm : link
Better arm talent. And Daniels looks to run too much.
RE: RE: …  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 3:55 pm : link
In comment 16300966 MookGiants said:
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Ryan Day is now 1-3 vs. Michigan. That won’t fly in Columbus.



They're not going to fire him, and Michigan is likely in for a big reset in the off-season. They lose a ton and likely will lose their head coach. Ryan Day is a total asshole but he also was a missed field goal away from winning a national championship last year.


I’m not sure you appreciate how much this game means to Ohio State.

As to Michigan losing a ton & their coach - if they roll with Moore that will ensure continuity. And there is such a thing as the transfer protocol.

Plus their two top DTs, their #1 TE, and their best CB are sophomores.
I know JJ McCarthy is a bit of a lightning  
barens : 11/25/2023 3:55 pm : link
Rod topic, but I was impressed with his game today. Ohio State’s defense is really tough, he had a few plays that most qb’s wouldn’t be able to make.
RE: I know JJ McCarthy is a bit of a lightning  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 3:56 pm : link
In comment 16300973 barens said:
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Rod topic, but I was impressed with his game today. Ohio State’s defense is really tough, he had a few plays that most qb’s wouldn’t be able to make.


He was a different QB today than last week. He was not healthy- which also might be why they ran the ball on every down in the 2nd half vs Penn State
OSU has  
GiantGrit : 11/25/2023 3:58 pm : link
insanely high standards. Maurice Clarett is already on twitter saying Day needs to go.

I'm not arguing whether its right or wrong but there's a very real possibility A&M is gonna throw stupid money and OSU is gonna wish him well out the door.
RE: OSU has  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 4:09 pm : link
In comment 16300977 GiantGrit said:
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insanely high standards. Maurice Clarett is already on twitter saying Day needs to go.

I'm not arguing whether its right or wrong but there's a very real possibility A&M is gonna throw stupid money and OSU is gonna wish him well out the door.


I’d say that’s a strong possibility.

He’s this century’s version of John Cooper. I don’t see how he comes back to Ohio State.
RE: RE: I know JJ McCarthy is a bit of a lightning  
barens : 11/25/2023 4:10 pm : link
In comment 16300974 RCPhoenix said:
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Rod topic, but I was impressed with his game today. Ohio State’s defense is really tough, he had a few plays that most qb’s wouldn’t be able to make.



He was a different QB today than last week. He was not healthy- which also might be why they ran the ball on every down in the 2nd half vs Penn State



That TD pass to Roman Wilson was pretty special. I don’t know if it was the smartest throw, there were 2 defenders there, but he threaded the needle.
Don’t look now  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 4:11 pm : link
But Auburn is tied with Alabama at 7
RE: RE: OSU has  
GiantGrit : 11/25/2023 4:15 pm : link
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insanely high standards. Maurice Clarett is already on twitter saying Day needs to go.

I'm not arguing whether its right or wrong but there's a very real possibility A&M is gonna throw stupid money and OSU is gonna wish him well out the door.



I’d say that’s a strong possibility.

He’s this century’s version of John Cooper. I don’t see how he comes back to Ohio State.


Never been a huge fan, just saw he's 1-6 vs. top 5 teams. I think they've fallen off a tad from the Urban days. The big question is, who would replace him? Fickell just took the Wisconsin job. Would he still leave?
Happy to see Ryan Day get it stuffed in his ass  
widmerseyebrow : 11/25/2023 4:17 pm : link
Didn't care about either team until this whole signals "controversy" lol.
RE: RE: RE: HAIL  
bw in dc : 11/25/2023 4:18 pm : link
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B/c he has lost three straight to Michigan


So, you think a guy who is 10-1, after playing in two of the last three FBS playoffs, should be fired because they lost to the better team?
I think Day  
ajr2456 : 11/25/2023 4:21 pm : link
Is gone
RE: RE: RE: RE: HAIL  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 4:26 pm : link
In comment 16300988 bw in dc said:
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B/c he has lost three straight to Michigan



So, you think a guy who is 10-1, after playing in two of the last three FBS playoffs, should be fired because they lost to the better team?


I didn’t say he should be fired. I said I think he’ll be fired, or asked to leave.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/25/2023 4:29 pm : link
Day can win 10 games every year. But if he doesn’t beat Michigan…the fan base will hate him.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: HAIL  
MookGiants : 11/25/2023 4:29 pm : link
In comment 16300993 RCPhoenix said:
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B/c he has lost three straight to Michigan



So, you think a guy who is 10-1, after playing in two of the last three FBS playoffs, should be fired because they lost to the better team?



I didn’t say he should be fired. I said I think he’ll be fired, or asked to leave.


No chance he's getting fired or asked to leave after this year. If they lose again next year then its possible, but no fricking way they are canning him this off-season.
Well Rutgers already done  
jeff57 : 11/25/2023 4:32 pm : link
And the first quarter is still not done.
Mook.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/25/2023 4:33 pm : link
You’re probably right, but his hot seat just got even hotter after today. That fan base doesn’t want John Cooper 2.0.
We’ll see what happens with Day  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 4:33 pm : link
I think some of you are underestimating how angry Ohio State fans are at him.

Michigan hadn’t won three straight on Ohio State since 1995-1997.
Big win  
Lines of Scrimmage : 11/25/2023 4:36 pm : link
again for Michigan. I give a lot of credit to the coaches and players pressing forward with all of the other issues.

I don't think Day will be fired but this was a really bad loss imv with JH being out and all the other stuff Michigan had to deal with.
RC.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/25/2023 4:36 pm : link
That fan base got spoiled AF with Tresell and Urban’s success.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/25/2023 4:37 pm : link
Tresell and Urban DOMINATED Michigan.
RE: We’ll see what happens with Day  
MookGiants : 11/25/2023 4:38 pm : link
In comment 16301008 RCPhoenix said:
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I think some of you are underestimating how angry Ohio State fans are at him.

Michigan hadn’t won three straight on Ohio State since 1995-1997.


There isnt a no brainer hire out there. That's the only way I would see them doing it this year.

Ohio State fans are dumb but they're not that dumb. He out coached Kirby last year in the semifinal badly. If Harrison doesn't get hurt or the kicker makes the field goal they win a national championship.

I absolutely hate the guy, but he's not getting canned this off-season. If Ohio State fired him you would have some schools considering canning their own coach to get him. If he got canned and I'm PSU i'd fire franklin and hire him on the spot
Mook.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/25/2023 4:41 pm : link
I know a PSU fan or two who would fire Franklin tomorrow.
Couple great throws from Ward  
ajr2456 : 11/25/2023 4:43 pm : link
There
Anyone check on Greg lately?  
Gmen703 : 11/25/2023 4:44 pm : link
Asking for a friend.
RE: Couple great throws from Ward  
JT039 : 11/25/2023 4:47 pm : link
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There



I was just thinking man Ward is off then boom! Two very nice plays.
RE: RE: We’ll see what happens with Day  
GiantGrit : 11/25/2023 4:54 pm : link
In comment 16301015 MookGiants said:
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I think some of you are underestimating how angry Ohio State fans are at him.

Michigan hadn’t won three straight on Ohio State since 1995-1997.



There isnt a no brainer hire out there. That's the only way I would see them doing it this year.

Ohio State fans are dumb but they're not that dumb. He out coached Kirby last year in the semifinal badly. If Harrison doesn't get hurt or the kicker makes the field goal they win a national championship.

I absolutely hate the guy, but he's not getting canned this off-season. If Ohio State fired him you would have some schools considering canning their own coach to get him. If he got canned and I'm PSU i'd fire franklin and hire him on the spot


Again, its not as simple as them firing him. A&M has oil money and is again desperate to make a splash.

If they offer Ryan Day $100m to leave is OSU gonna match? More likely they say "thanks for everything, good luck"

If the A&M rumor wasn't out there then this is less of a conversation but he also has to consider leaving a year too soon compared to a year too late.

Similar situation to Kiffin at Ole Miss, if he can find ways to consistently win 9-10 games then they won't even bother him. That gets him fired at Ohio State. Factor in the money and its enticing.
WTF  
BigBlueCane : 11/25/2023 4:55 pm : link
was that call in the Iron Bowl?

That was blatant a Facemask as you can see in CFB.

Even the announcers, Nessler and Daniels called it as such.
RE: RE: We’ll see what happens with Day  
section125 : 11/25/2023 4:57 pm : link
In comment 16301015 MookGiants said:
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I think some of you are underestimating how angry Ohio State fans are at him.

Michigan hadn’t won three straight on Ohio State since 1995-1997.



There isnt a no brainer hire out there. That's the only way I would see them doing it this year.

Ohio State fans are dumb but they're not that dumb. He out coached Kirby last year in the semifinal badly. If Harrison doesn't get hurt or the kicker makes the field goal they win a national championship.

I absolutely hate the guy, but he's not getting canned this off-season. If Ohio State fired him you would have some schools considering canning their own coach to get him. If he got canned and I'm PSU i'd fire franklin and hire him on the spot


FWIW, OSU should have lost to ND and the only reason is stupidity by ND's DC...
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/25/2023 4:58 pm : link
Would love an Auburn win, but I think Tide will prevail.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/25/2023 4:58 pm : link
section, that loss still pisses me off.
Jedd Fisch  
GiantGrit : 11/25/2023 4:59 pm : link
Coach of the year imo. Incredibly impressive what he's done at Arizona. McMillan looks like a very good WR, only a sophmore.

Fun fact - from Livingston, he went to Hanover Park and never even played football. Was college roommates with Howie Roseman, went there with the purpose of working under Spurrier. Eventually became a GA under him.

Cool story.
Washington is going to lose to Oregon  
ajr2456 : 11/25/2023 4:59 pm : link
Next week I think
RE: Washington is going to lose to Oregon  
GiantGrit : 11/25/2023 5:01 pm : link
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Next week I think


I think Oregon can beat anyone in the country, including Georgia. Very good on both sides of the ball. Cristobal started to toughen that program up and Lanning has brought it to the next level.
Penix wasn’t good last week  
JT039 : 11/25/2023 5:16 pm : link
And has been terrible today.

How people see this guy as a first round talent doesn’t make sense.
RE: RE: I still think Williams is the top QB prospect  
k2tampa : 11/25/2023 5:22 pm : link
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But I’d put Daniels a clear second.



The lead up to the draft is a funny and real thing. Williams will be dissected mentally and physically. Only knock on Daniels is his slender frame but everyone knows that is addressed by a nfl weight and strength program. Will add 10-15 pounds easily.

Something to think about…look at what Jackson is doing for Baltimore this year. Daniels is a much better passer at this stage and his release time is off the charts. Daniels has a legit chance to go #1. Remember, it only takes one team to be smitten with him….


I'll take Daniels. More accurate, better arm. More explosive and dynamic. Makes reads through all progressions. Never looks rattled. My bet is he will weigh 220 by the combine and be QB 1. 4 TD passes against that defense is impressive. Better than anything Williams or Maye has done. He'll be gone when the Giants pick.
RE: RE: RE: I still think Williams is the top QB prospect  
jinkies : 11/25/2023 5:28 pm : link
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But I’d put Daniels a clear second.



The lead up to the draft is a funny and real thing. Williams will be dissected mentally and physically. Only knock on Daniels is his slender frame but everyone knows that is addressed by a nfl weight and strength program. Will add 10-15 pounds easily.

Something to think about…look at what Jackson is doing for Baltimore this year. Daniels is a much better passer at this stage and his release time is off the charts. Daniels has a legit chance to go #1. Remember, it only takes one team to be smitten with him….



I'll take Daniels. More accurate, better arm. More explosive and dynamic. Makes reads through all progressions. Never looks rattled. My bet is he will weigh 220 by the combine and be QB 1. 4 TD passes against that defense is impressive. Better than anything Williams or Maye has done. He'll be gone when the Giants pick.


Daniels doesn't have a better arm than Williams. That's absurd. Williams has established he can throw with incredible accuracy and power on the run, from different arm angles, into tight windows. Williams has the best overall arm talent in the class.
Auburn has almost 200 yards rushing...  
bw in dc : 11/25/2023 5:29 pm : link
in the first half against Bama. JFC.
Crazy part is McCarthy and Daniels are basically  
ajr2456 : 11/25/2023 5:35 pm : link
The same size, but only one gets questions about their frame
RE: Crazy part is McCarthy and Daniels are basically  
BigBlueShock : 11/25/2023 5:45 pm : link
In comment 16301072 ajr2456 said:
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The same size, but only one gets questions about their frame

I believe most of the McCarthy fanfare is coming from Michigan fans on this site. Most unbiased observers aren’t near as high on him. Michigan fans are letting their hearts get in the way of honest assessments
Has Schoen been spotted at an LSU game?  
bceagle05 : 11/25/2023 5:45 pm : link
I don’t recall that.
Cam Ward makes some terrible decisions  
ajr2456 : 11/25/2023 5:47 pm : link
And then makes a throw like that
RE: Has Schoen been spotted at an LSU game?  
ajr2456 : 11/25/2023 5:48 pm : link
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I don’t recall that.


I believe so
RE: RE: RE: RE: I still think Williams is the top QB prospect  
DonnieD89 : 11/25/2023 5:52 pm : link
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But I’d put Daniels a clear second.



The lead up to the draft is a funny and real thing. Williams will be dissected mentally and physically. Only knock on Daniels is his slender frame but everyone knows that is addressed by a nfl weight and strength program. Will add 10-15 pounds easily.

Something to think about…look at what Jackson is doing for Baltimore this year. Daniels is a much better passer at this stage and his release time is off the charts. Daniels has a legit chance to go #1. Remember, it only takes one team to be smitten with him….



I'll take Daniels. More accurate, better arm. More explosive and dynamic. Makes reads through all progressions. Never looks rattled. My bet is he will weigh 220 by the combine and be QB 1. 4 TD passes against that defense is impressive. Better than anything Williams or Maye has done. He'll be gone when the Giants pick.



Daniels doesn't have a better arm than Williams. That's absurd. Williams has established he can throw with incredible accuracy and power on the run, from different arm angles, into tight windows. Williams has the best overall arm talent in the class.


I agree with you that William has a better arm talent than Daniels; however, I really question Williams’ antics. He acts like a child. If the Giants are going to consider him as their pick, they’re going to have to get into his head to see if he can handle the New York media. As of now, I’m not convinced he can take the heat.
Schoen was at a LSU game earlier this year  
Sean : 11/25/2023 5:53 pm : link
He's seen Williams, Maye, Daniels, Nix and Penix all in person.
Thanks, glad to hear.  
bceagle05 : 11/25/2023 5:55 pm : link
I love Daniels.
JFC...  
bw in dc : 11/25/2023 5:57 pm : link
Bama's D is getting exposed.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I still think Williams is the top QB prospect  
NJBlueTuna : 11/25/2023 6:12 pm : link
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But I’d put Daniels a clear second.



The lead up to the draft is a funny and real thing. Williams will be dissected mentally and physically. Only knock on Daniels is his slender frame but everyone knows that is addressed by a nfl weight and strength program. Will add 10-15 pounds easily.

Something to think about…look at what Jackson is doing for Baltimore this year. Daniels is a much better passer at this stage and his release time is off the charts. Daniels has a legit chance to go #1. Remember, it only takes one team to be smitten with him….



I'll take Daniels. More accurate, better arm. More explosive and dynamic. Makes reads through all progressions. Never looks rattled. My bet is he will weigh 220 by the combine and be QB 1. 4 TD passes against that defense is impressive. Better than anything Williams or Maye has done. He'll be gone when the Giants pick.



Daniels doesn't have a better arm than Williams. That's absurd. Williams has established he can throw with incredible accuracy and power on the run, from different arm angles, into tight windows. Williams has the best overall arm talent in the class.



I agree with you that William has a better arm talent than Daniels; however, I really question Williams’ antics. He acts like a child. If the Giants are going to consider him as their pick, they’re going to have to get into his head to see if he can handle the New York media. As of now, I’m not convinced he can take the heat.


You are going to be very surprised Re what scouts and teams think of Daniels arm talent compared to Williams leading up to the draft. Daniels has a cannon and his release is the best I have seen in awhile. Word is getting out on Daniels arm and more specifically his lightning release. Even Sy has indicated there is a lot more to Daniels that will come out leading to the draft as his arrow is pointed north in a big way.
These refs  
MookGiants : 11/25/2023 6:22 pm : link
are having a rough game in Bama-Auburn. How on earth was that 4th down play not offsetting? They snapped the ball with 3 guys moving at the time of the snap. It should have been offsetting and replay 4th down.
RE: These refs  
ajr2456 : 11/25/2023 6:25 pm : link
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are having a rough game in Bama-Auburn. How on earth was that 4th down play not offsetting? They snapped the ball with 3 guys moving at the time of the snap. It should have been offsetting and replay 4th down.


I guess the only possible explanation is the refs were confused by the motion and took it as the offsides cause the oline to move. Terrible call.
RE: Has Schoen been spotted at an LSU game?  
BigBlueShock : 11/25/2023 6:30 pm : link
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I don’t recall that.

He was at the Florida St./LSU game earlier this season
I'm shocked  
MookGiants : 11/25/2023 6:31 pm : link
that Saban hasn't found a way to slow down Auburn's run game to this point.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/25/2023 6:35 pm : link
Would love an Auburn win.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I still think Williams is the top QB prospect  
k2tampa : 11/25/2023 6:36 pm : link
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But I’d put Daniels a clear second.



The lead up to the draft is a funny and real thing. Williams will be dissected mentally and physically. Only knock on Daniels is his slender frame but everyone knows that is addressed by a nfl weight and strength program. Will add 10-15 pounds easily.

Something to think about…look at what Jackson is doing for Baltimore this year. Daniels is a much better passer at this stage and his release time is off the charts. Daniels has a legit chance to go #1. Remember, it only takes one team to be smitten with him….



I'll take Daniels. More accurate, better arm. More explosive and dynamic. Makes reads through all progressions. Never looks rattled. My bet is he will weigh 220 by the combine and be QB 1. 4 TD passes against that defense is impressive. Better than anything Williams or Maye has done. He'll be gone when the Giants pick.



Daniels doesn't have a better arm than Williams. That's absurd. Williams has established he can throw with incredible accuracy and power on the run, from different arm angles, into tight windows. Williams has the best overall arm talent in the class.


Well, we disagree.
RE: RE: Crazy part is McCarthy and Daniels are basically  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 6:36 pm : link
In comment 16301077 BigBlueShock said:
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The same size, but only one gets questions about their frame


I believe most of the McCarthy fanfare is coming from Michigan fans on this site. Most unbiased observers aren’t near as high on him. Michigan fans are letting their hearts get in the way of honest assessments


I am a Michigan fan, was at the game against Maryland, and noted on this board that McCarthy played poorly. If you don’t believe me check last week’s thread. He played much better today, which I think is a bit obvious to an unbiased observer.

I’ve also said I believe McCarthy is in the 2nd tier after Williams/Maye/Daniels. The second tier to me is Penix Jr, McCarthy, Nix, Ward, Sanders.

I know people love to hate on Michigan fans but I’m really tired of it. Hate on the team fine. But please try to use facts to support your argument.
College rivalry games are awesome  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 6:40 pm : link
Rankings mean nothing- Washington State and Auburn are bringing it to their rivals
Holy fuck. Auburn's returner muffed the punt!  
Anakim : 11/25/2023 6:41 pm : link
Alabama is alive!
RE: Jedd Fisch  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 6:42 pm : link
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Coach of the year imo. Incredibly impressive what he's done at Arizona. McMillan looks like a very good WR, only a sophmore.

Fun fact - from Livingston, he went to Hanover Park and never even played football. Was college roommates with Howie Roseman, went there with the purpose of working under Spurrier. Eventually became a GA under him.

Cool story.


Didn’t he coach under Harbaugh too?
RE: RE: RE: Crazy part is McCarthy and Daniels are basically  
BigBlueShock : 11/25/2023 6:44 pm : link
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The same size, but only one gets questions about their frame


I believe most of the McCarthy fanfare is coming from Michigan fans on this site. Most unbiased observers aren’t near as high on him. Michigan fans are letting their hearts get in the way of honest assessments



I am a Michigan fan, was at the game against Maryland, and noted on this board that McCarthy played poorly. If you don’t believe me check last week’s thread. He played much better today, which I think is a bit obvious to an unbiased observer.

I’ve also said I believe McCarthy is in the 2nd tier after Williams/Maye/Daniels. The second tier to me is Penix Jr, McCarthy, Nix, Ward, Sanders.

I know people love to hate on Michigan fans but I’m really tired of it. Hate on the team fine. But please try to use facts to support your argument.

Yes, you did say McCarthy played poorly against Maryland. But let’s not pretend that you haven’t also followed that up with mentioning he was playing injured every chance you get.

I also never mentioned you or said that YOU were letting your emotions get in the way of your evaluations. Must be that guilty conscience kicking in here.
Jalen Milroe is a fucking moron  
Anakim : 11/25/2023 6:53 pm : link
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HE CAUGHT IT!  
Anakim : 11/25/2023 6:57 pm : link
What the fuck is Auburn doing!?!?!? How do you only have one guy covering that side???


Holy fuck
BigBlueShock  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 6:57 pm : link
I think my assessment of McCarthy as being on the second tier of QBs is fair.
A two man rush  
jeff57 : 11/25/2023 6:57 pm : link
Can it get any dumber?
Wow  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 6:58 pm : link
Maybe don’t rush 3?
Great coaching there  
JT039 : 11/25/2023 6:58 pm : link
2 man rush.

Lol.
Whoever is Auburn's DC has got to be fired  
Anakim : 11/25/2023 6:59 pm : link
Dumb fuck. Why would you have only one defender on the other end of the endzone? It was a fucking 50-50 jumpball.
RE: Whoever is Auburn's DC has got to be fired  
markky : 11/25/2023 7:00 pm : link
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Dumb fuck. Why would you have only one defender on the other end of the endzone? It was a fucking 50-50 jumpball.


twice they go with the 3 man rush and give the QB all day. what a dummy.
RE: Great coaching there  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/25/2023 7:01 pm : link
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2 man rush.

Lol.


Prevent defense prevents another college team from winning.

But that one was even more ridiculous than usual
RE: RE: RE: Crazy part is McCarthy and Daniels are basically  
barens : 11/25/2023 7:01 pm : link
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The same size, but only one gets questions about their frame


I believe most of the McCarthy fanfare is coming from Michigan fans on this site. Most unbiased observers aren’t near as high on him. Michigan fans are letting their hearts get in the way of honest assessments



I am a Michigan fan, was at the game against Maryland, and noted on this board that McCarthy played poorly. If you don’t believe me check last week’s thread. He played much better today, which I think is a bit obvious to an unbiased observer.

I’ve also said I believe McCarthy is in the 2nd tier after Williams/Maye/Daniels. The second tier to me is Penix Jr, McCarthy, Nix, Ward, Sanders.

I know people love to hate on Michigan fans but I’m really tired of it. Hate on the team fine. But please try to use facts to support your argument.


I don’t know, I’m a Michigan fan, and I’m not certain they win last year or this year without McCarthy. I get that Michigan usually leans heavy on their running game, but for most of the game, the running game wasn’t working, and Ohio state had their running game going. Not only that, but OSU’s front 4 was getting major pressure on McCarthy, and he not only kept them in the game but kept them ahead the entire time. I mean, what more can you ask for against a top tier college football defense.

Give a QB all the time in the world  
jeff57 : 11/25/2023 7:01 pm : link
He’ll never find anyone open
Good job blowing the game, Auburn  
Anakim : 11/25/2023 7:02 pm : link
Fucking morons
Hilarious final three  
ajr2456 : 11/25/2023 7:02 pm : link
Plays for Auburn
RE: Wow  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/25/2023 7:02 pm : link
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Maybe don’t rush 3?


It wasn’t even three. It was two and a spy because apparently they were worried about him running it in from 30+ yards away.

Just the dumbest shit ever
RE: Whoever is Auburn's DC has got to be fired  
section125 : 11/25/2023 7:03 pm : link
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Dumb fuck. Why would you have only one defender on the other end of the endzone? It was a fucking 50-50 jumpball.


What a dumb fuck. 2 man rush. How do you let that QB have all day to throw? Worst than ND having only 10 men on the field against OSU.
Simply the stupidest decision on college football history.
RE: RE: Wow  
markky : 11/25/2023 7:03 pm : link
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Maybe don’t rush 3?



It wasn’t even three. It was two and a spy because apparently they were worried about him running it in from 30+ yards away.

Just the dumbest shit ever


you are correct. that was unbelievable.
I agree with you barens  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 7:04 pm : link
But on this board speaking positively about McCarthy apparently means you are hopelessly biased.
RE: RE: RE: Wow  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 7:05 pm : link
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Maybe don’t rush 3?



It wasn’t even three. It was two and a spy because apparently they were worried about him running it in from 30+ yards away.

Just the dumbest shit ever



you are correct. that was unbelievable.


Inexcusable. I was wrong, one of them was a spy.
That rivalry...  
bw in dc : 11/25/2023 7:05 pm : link
is just insane.

A game where the records really don't matter...

BTW, I think the slot receiver for Bama was offsides on that winning TD.
RE: RE: Whoever is Auburn's DC has got to be fired  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/25/2023 7:06 pm : link
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Dumb fuck. Why would you have only one defender on the other end of the endzone? It was a fucking 50-50 jumpball.



What a dumb fuck. 2 man rush. How do you let that QB have all day to throw? Worst than ND having only 10 men on the field against OSU.
Simply the stupidest decision on college football history.


Ten men on the field wasn’t what loss the Irish the game.

It was rushing just three men on the critical 3rd & 19 the previous play.

Unless the opponent is out of Hail Mary range, you’ve gotta rush 4 men.
in that you never play man  
bigbluewillrise : 11/25/2023 7:06 pm : link
you play zone



big mistake.
It wasn't just the rush and the spy  
Anakim : 11/25/2023 7:07 pm : link
It was one-on-one in the endzone. Of course Milroe threw that way. It's a 50-50 ball at that point.
Some of the worst end of the game coaching  
jeff57 : 11/25/2023 7:08 pm : link
I’ve ever seen I’ve seen this season
I've seen a lot of dumb things  
MookGiants : 11/25/2023 7:08 pm : link
by coaches in football games, but putting a spy on and rushing 2 guys when its 4th and goal from the 31 has to be the dumbest.

There's zero point in putting a spy on. If he wants to take off running, have at it. He's got 31 yards to go. You can not rush 2 guys and have a spy and just let him sit there. The spy was the dumbest thing ever. Might as well have played with just 10 guys
RE: RE: RE: Whoever is Auburn's DC has got to be fired  
section125 : 11/25/2023 7:09 pm : link
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Dumb fuck. Why would you have only one defender on the other end of the endzone? It was a fucking 50-50 jumpball.



What a dumb fuck. 2 man rush. How do you let that QB have all day to throw? Worst than ND having only 10 men on the field against OSU.
Simply the stupidest decision on college football history.



Ten men on the field wasn’t what loss the Irish the game.

It was rushing just three men on the critical 3rd & 19 the previous play.

Unless the opponent is out of Hail Mary range, you’ve gotta rush 4 men.


10 men last two plays. You don't think that makes a difference? Yes 3 man rush is absolutely dumb, but doing it with only 10 on the field.
Man if I was Auburn, I may have blitzed, but 3 men is stupid, 2 men is an ignoramous....
ND beats Stanford right?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/25/2023 7:11 pm : link
Brutal penalty  
ajr2456 : 11/25/2023 7:11 pm : link
For Washington
RE: RE: Whoever is Auburn's DC has got to be fired  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 7:11 pm : link
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Dumb fuck. Why would you have only one defender on the other end of the endzone? It was a fucking 50-50 jumpball.



What a dumb fuck. 2 man rush. How do you let that QB have all day to throw? Worst than ND having only 10 men on the field against OSU.
Simply the stupidest decision on college football history.


I seem to recall ND had a pass on the previous drive when Ohio State had no timeouts. The incomplete pass stopped the clock.
If I were an Auburn fan  
Jersey Heel : 11/25/2023 7:12 pm : link
I’d probably be in the bathroom puking right now.
Ward comes up big  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 7:13 pm : link
What a game
RE: RE: RE: Whoever is Auburn's DC has got to be fired  
MookGiants : 11/25/2023 7:14 pm : link
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Dumb fuck. Why would you have only one defender on the other end of the endzone? It was a fucking 50-50 jumpball.



What a dumb fuck. 2 man rush. How do you let that QB have all day to throw? Worst than ND having only 10 men on the field against OSU.
Simply the stupidest decision on college football history.



I seem to recall ND had a pass on the previous drive when Ohio State had no timeouts. The incomplete pass stopped the clock.


They had 1 timeout left. And that pass play was a perfect play call, 44 on OSU just made an incredible play. There's probably 2-3 players in all of CFB that make the play he did. If he doesn't make it that play is going for at worst a 20 yard gain and the games over and likely a touchdown and the games over. I was sitting on that sideline and the play was right in front of me. The result wasn't ideal, but I loved the call.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Whoever is Auburn's DC has got to be fired  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/25/2023 7:16 pm : link
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Dumb fuck. Why would you have only one defender on the other end of the endzone? It was a fucking 50-50 jumpball.



What a dumb fuck. 2 man rush. How do you let that QB have all day to throw? Worst than ND having only 10 men on the field against OSU.
Simply the stupidest decision on college football history.



Ten men on the field wasn’t what loss the Irish the game.

It was rushing just three men on the critical 3rd & 19 the previous play.

Unless the opponent is out of Hail Mary range, you’ve gotta rush 4 men.



10 men last two plays. You don't think that makes a difference? Yes 3 man rush is absolutely dumb, but doing it with only 10 on the field.
Man if I was Auburn, I may have blitzed, but 3 men is stupid, 2 men is an ignoramous....


Oh it was 100% inexcusable. But the ball was at the one yard line at that point. Personally, i felt like the game was lost when they gave up the 3rd & 19. Freeman said after they played SC that they stayed aggressive against Caleb Williams… “no three man rush stuff” (paraphrasing).

Remember Sam Hartman’s 4th & 16 run against Duke? Three man rush after Duke killed the Irish all drive with blitzes.

Three man rush is terrible. Two man rush is unforgivable.
Isn’t Sam Hartman supposed to be smarter than that?????  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/25/2023 7:17 pm : link
WTF??!?!
RE: Isn’t Sam Hartman supposed to be smarter than that?????  
KevinBBWC : 11/25/2023 7:20 pm : link
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WTF??!?!


So stupid. 46 years old you think he know better.
Let’s go Noles!!!!  
Ceez2.0 : 11/25/2023 7:21 pm : link
!!!!!
RE: Some of the worst end of the game coaching  
Anakim : 11/25/2023 7:21 pm : link
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I’ve ever seen I’ve seen this season



Mario Cristobal says "hold my beer" multiple times
RE: Let’s go Noles!!!!  
ajr2456 : 11/25/2023 7:23 pm : link
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!!!!!


Let’s go Tate
Doak Walker Award non finalist Estime takes it to the house.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/25/2023 7:27 pm : link
All 17 Stanford fans at the game are very disappointed
What kind of play call was that by Washington  
jeff57 : 11/25/2023 7:37 pm : link
?
The roughing the passer call...  
bw in dc : 11/25/2023 7:38 pm : link
in this Wash v Wazu state game was absurd.
They almost threw an INT again  
jeff57 : 11/25/2023 7:39 pm : link
!
And then they try to pass again and got sacked  
jeff57 : 11/25/2023 7:41 pm : link
.
I can't believe Wa is still passing the ball  
Dennis : 11/25/2023 7:41 pm : link
With less than 30 seconds left, inside their own 20 yd line.
WA wins.  
Dennis : 11/25/2023 7:43 pm : link
Very unimpressive win for a #4 ranked team.
Washington wins  
jeff57 : 11/25/2023 7:43 pm : link
Despite their best efforts to screw things up
penix, nix, mccarthy are clear 2nd tier  
bigbluewillrise : 11/25/2023 7:43 pm : link
from daniels, maye, williams for me.
So this was the last Washington-Washington State matchup?  
The_Boss : 11/25/2023 7:43 pm : link
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RE: penix, nix, mccarthy are clear 2nd tier  
The_Boss : 11/25/2023 7:44 pm : link
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from daniels, maye, williams for me.


Me as well
RE: What kind of play call was that by Washington  
Dennis : 11/25/2023 7:44 pm : link
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+1> totally agree, very strange and dangerous play calling in that last series by WA.
They just called FSU  
section125 : 11/25/2023 7:45 pm : link
for a PF because a DB tackled the QB. Whoever called that penalty on that crew should be released on the spot.
RE: RE: penix, nix, mccarthy are clear 2nd tier  
Dennis : 11/25/2023 7:47 pm : link
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Me as well


+1. Totally agree. I'm a big Huskies homer, lived in Seattle for 40 years, and I also think Penix is 2nd tier also. I don't think he's bad, I just think he's one dimensional, and has not ben impressive late in the season.
RE: They just called FSU  
jeff57 : 11/25/2023 7:47 pm : link
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for a PF because a DB tackled the QB. Whoever called that penalty on that crew should be released on the spot.


Looked like the sideline official who came running in to call it
I have to say David Braun...  
bw in dc : 11/25/2023 7:49 pm : link
of Northwestern should be COTY.

To get 7 wins out of that team under the circumstances as an interim HC is insanely impressive.

#36 on Clemson has both a scoop and score and an INT in the  
markky : 11/25/2023 7:49 pm : link
first 60 seconds of the game. I think he's a freshman safety.
RE: RE: They just called FSU  
section125 : 11/25/2023 7:49 pm : link
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for a PF because a DB tackled the QB. Whoever called that penalty on that crew should be released on the spot.



Looked like the sideline official who came running in to call it


Umpire standing right there.

Norvelle is the worst 1st half coach in college football.
RE: #36 on Clemson has both a scoop and score and an INT in the  
markky : 11/25/2023 7:50 pm : link
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first 60 seconds of the game. I think he's a freshman safety.


44 seconds.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Whoever is Auburn's DC has got to be fired  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 7:54 pm : link
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Dumb fuck. Why would you have only one defender on the other end of the endzone? It was a fucking 50-50 jumpball.



What a dumb fuck. 2 man rush. How do you let that QB have all day to throw? Worst than ND having only 10 men on the field against OSU.
Simply the stupidest decision on college football history.



I seem to recall ND had a pass on the previous drive when Ohio State had no timeouts. The incomplete pass stopped the clock.



They had 1 timeout left. And that pass play was a perfect play call, 44 on OSU just made an incredible play. There's probably 2-3 players in all of CFB that make the play he did. If he doesn't make it that play is going for at worst a 20 yard gain and the games over and likely a touchdown and the games over. I was sitting on that sideline and the play was right in front of me. The result wasn't ideal, but I loved the call.


I just don’t like a pass play in that situation. Now I remember- it allowed Ohio State to call time out before that last play of the game, yes?

44 is a great player for Ohio State.
Keep chopping that wood Schiano!  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 11/25/2023 7:55 pm : link
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RE: I have to say David Braun...  
RCPhoenix : 11/25/2023 7:55 pm : link
In comment 16301202 bw in dc said:
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of Northwestern should be COTY.

To get 7 wins out of that team under the circumstances as an interim HC is insanely impressive.


Agreed. But it helps that the Big Ten West is terrible.
Hartman WTF  
KevinBBWC : 11/25/2023 8:01 pm : link
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he wont come out  
bigbluewillrise : 11/25/2023 8:07 pm : link
but carson beck is my developmental 2nd/3rd round target.

hes amazing.
Just for the BBI audience...  
bw in dc : 11/25/2023 8:09 pm : link
here are Jayden Daniels' numbers for the year:

40 TDs/4 INTs, 72% comp%, 11+ YPA; 1,100+ yards rushing, 8.4 YPA, 10 TDs.

50 total TDs for the year.

Simply remarkable.
RE: he wont come out  
MookGiants : 11/25/2023 8:11 pm : link
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but carson beck is my developmental 2nd/3rd round target.

hes amazing.


He's unlikely to come out but if he does he wont make it out of the first round.

Very good chance to go #1 overall if he stays though
RE: Just for the BBI audience...  
markky : 11/25/2023 8:13 pm : link
In comment 16301219 bw in dc said:
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here are Jayden Daniels' numbers for the year:

40 TDs/4 INTs, 72% comp%, 11+ YPA; 1,100+ yards rushing, 8.4 YPA, 10 TDs.

50 total TDs for the year.

Simply remarkable.


an inch shorter but 10 pounds lighter than daniel jones. pass. /s
RE: Just for the BBI audience...  
Go Terps : 11/25/2023 8:16 pm : link
In comment 16301219 bw in dc said:
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here are Jayden Daniels' numbers for the year:

40 TDs/4 INTs, 72% comp%, 11+ YPA; 1,100+ yards rushing, 8.4 YPA, 10 TDs.

50 total TDs for the year.

Simply remarkable.


I remember making the point that Lamar Jackson has more college production passing and rushing than Daniel Jones and Saquon Barkley combined. Daniels has a similar resume. Watching him outrun angles against SEC defenders AND being an incredibly productive passer...at this point I think he's the #1 pick overall. Or at least should be.
RE: RE: Just for the BBI audience...  
English Alaister : 11/25/2023 8:27 pm : link
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here are Jayden Daniels' numbers for the year:

40 TDs/4 INTs, 72% comp%, 11+ YPA; 1,100+ yards rushing, 8.4 YPA, 10 TDs.

50 total TDs for the year.

Simply remarkable.



I remember making the point that Lamar Jackson has more college production passing and rushing than Daniel Jones and Saquon Barkley combined. Daniels has a similar resume. Watching him outrun angles against SEC defenders AND being an incredibly productive passer...at this point I think he's the #1 pick overall. Or at least should be.


FWIW, I think you're right on this one.
Sam Hartman is doing something stupid every time he throws the ball.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/25/2023 8:28 pm : link
I’m tired of him.
RE: Sam Hartman is doing something stupid every time he throws the ball.  
KevinBBWC : 11/25/2023 8:34 pm : link
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I’m tired of him.


At this point let's get Angeli more experience.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I still think Williams is the top QB prospect  
jinkies : 11/25/2023 8:51 pm : link
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But I’d put Daniels a clear second.



The lead up to the draft is a funny and real thing. Williams will be dissected mentally and physically. Only knock on Daniels is his slender frame but everyone knows that is addressed by a nfl weight and strength program. Will add 10-15 pounds easily.

Something to think about…look at what Jackson is doing for Baltimore this year. Daniels is a much better passer at this stage and his release time is off the charts. Daniels has a legit chance to go #1. Remember, it only takes one team to be smitten with him….



I'll take Daniels. More accurate, better arm. More explosive and dynamic. Makes reads through all progressions. Never looks rattled. My bet is he will weigh 220 by the combine and be QB 1. 4 TD passes against that defense is impressive. Better than anything Williams or Maye has done. He'll be gone when the Giants pick.



Daniels doesn't have a better arm than Williams. That's absurd. Williams has established he can throw with incredible accuracy and power on the run, from different arm angles, into tight windows. Williams has the best overall arm talent in the class.



I agree with you that William has a better arm talent than Daniels; however, I really question Williams’ antics. He acts like a child. If the Giants are going to consider him as their pick, they’re going to have to get into his head to see if he can handle the New York media. As of now, I’m not convinced he can take the heat.



You are going to be very surprised Re what scouts and teams think of Daniels arm talent compared to Williams leading up to the draft. Daniels has a cannon and his release is the best I have seen in awhile. Word is getting out on Daniels arm and more specifically his lightning release. Even Sy has indicated there is a lot more to Daniels that will come out leading to the draft as his arrow is pointed north in a big way.


I don't doubt Daniels has a very good arm and will rise on boards. But Williams' best trait relates to his arm, ability to move, keep eyes downfield, and throw into tight windows on the run. It's potential Mahomes/Rodgers stuff.
Why didn’t GT call timeout  
JT039 : 11/25/2023 8:54 pm : link
After first down? Wasted 35 seconds.

RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I still think Williams is the top QB prospect  
NJBlueTuna : 11/25/2023 9:09 pm : link
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But I’d put Daniels a clear second.



The lead up to the draft is a funny and real thing. Williams will be dissected mentally and physically. Only knock on Daniels is his slender frame but everyone knows that is addressed by a nfl weight and strength program. Will add 10-15 pounds easily.

Something to think about…look at what Jackson is doing for Baltimore this year. Daniels is a much better passer at this stage and his release time is off the charts. Daniels has a legit chance to go #1. Remember, it only takes one team to be smitten with him….



I'll take Daniels. More accurate, better arm. More explosive and dynamic. Makes reads through all progressions. Never looks rattled. My bet is he will weigh 220 by the combine and be QB 1. 4 TD passes against that defense is impressive. Better than anything Williams or Maye has done. He'll be gone when the Giants pick.



Daniels doesn't have a better arm than Williams. That's absurd. Williams has established he can throw with incredible accuracy and power on the run, from different arm angles, into tight windows. Williams has the best overall arm talent in the class.



I agree with you that William has a better arm talent than Daniels; however, I really question Williams’ antics. He acts like a child. If the Giants are going to consider him as their pick, they’re going to have to get into his head to see if he can handle the New York media. As of now, I’m not convinced he can take the heat.



You are going to be very surprised Re what scouts and teams think of Daniels arm talent compared to Williams leading up to the draft. Daniels has a cannon and his release is the best I have seen in awhile. Word is getting out on Daniels arm and more specifically his lightning release. Even Sy has indicated there is a lot more to Daniels that will come out leading to the draft as his arrow is pointed north in a big way.



I don't doubt Daniels has a very good arm and will rise on boards. But Williams' best trait relates to his arm, ability to move, keep eyes downfield, and throw into tight windows on the run. It's potential Mahomes/Rodgers stuff.


I’m sorry. You lost me when you compared Williams to Mahomes and Rodgers. You realize Williams did NOT elevate the USC team, besides the absurdity of comparing his arm talent to 2 of the best QBs to ever play the game? Are you part of his family or entourage?
Take Estime out of the game  
KevinBBWC : 11/25/2023 9:10 pm : link
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Sign me up for  
ajr2456 : 11/25/2023 9:12 pm : link
Benson
Pearsall  
MookGiants : 11/25/2023 9:20 pm : link
will be interesting to see how he fares in the NFL. He's sneaky good
Drake Maye passing like crap but has run for 102 yards  
shyster : 11/25/2023 10:18 pm : link
in the 3Q.

Funny.
Zak Zinter  
JT039 : 11/25/2023 10:20 pm : link
Who had the gruesome leg injury today broke both fibula and tibula. Both guards for Michigan are decent prospects expected to be drafted from round 2-4.

Feel bad for the kid. Some say he is gonna be an all-American.
RE: Drake Maye passing like crap but has run for 102 yards  
speedywheels : 11/25/2023 10:33 pm : link
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in the 3Q.

Funny.


He’s got double rushing yards vs passing yards. That’s not good
ACC REFS  
ripdumaine : 11/25/2023 10:39 pm : link
Tried to derail FSU......go Noles
last pac 12 game ever  
bigbluewillrise : 11/25/2023 10:39 pm : link
what a shame they couldnt figure it out.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I still think Williams is the top QB prospect  
jinkies : 11/25/2023 10:42 pm : link
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I don't doubt Daniels has a very good arm and will rise on boards. But Williams' best trait relates to his arm, ability to move, keep eyes downfield, and throw into tight windows on the run. It's potential Mahomes/Rodgers stuff.



I’m sorry. You lost me when you compared Williams to Mahomes and Rodgers. You realize Williams did NOT elevate the USC team, besides the absurdity of comparing his arm talent to 2 of the best QBs to ever play the game? Are you part of his family or entourage?


There is a reason Williams is consensus #1 and it's not because of his sunny personality. His game is reminiscent of those two. That's why people are excited. You say he didn't elevate USC? Well Mahomes didn't elevate Texas Tech. Daniels looks like he has a nice strong arm, he isn't in Williams' class right now.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I still think Williams is the top QB prospect  
allstarjim : 11/25/2023 10:50 pm : link
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I don't doubt Daniels has a very good arm and will rise on boards. But Williams' best trait relates to his arm, ability to move, keep eyes downfield, and throw into tight windows on the run. It's potential Mahomes/Rodgers stuff.



I’m sorry. You lost me when you compared Williams to Mahomes and Rodgers. You realize Williams did NOT elevate the USC team, besides the absurdity of comparing his arm talent to 2 of the best QBs to ever play the game? Are you part of his family or entourage?



There is a reason Williams is consensus #1 and it's not because of his sunny personality. His game is reminiscent of those two. That's why people are excited. You say he didn't elevate USC? Well Mahomes didn't elevate Texas Tech. Daniels looks like he has a nice strong arm, he isn't in Williams' class right now.


LOL at "not in his class."
Uh oh, Drake Maye is injured  
Anakim : 11/25/2023 11:15 pm : link
Ankle?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I still think Williams is the top QB prospect  
MookGiants : 11/25/2023 11:21 pm : link
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I don't doubt Daniels has a very good arm and will rise on boards. But Williams' best trait relates to his arm, ability to move, keep eyes downfield, and throw into tight windows on the run. It's potential Mahomes/Rodgers stuff.



I’m sorry. You lost me when you compared Williams to Mahomes and Rodgers. You realize Williams did NOT elevate the USC team, besides the absurdity of comparing his arm talent to 2 of the best QBs to ever play the game? Are you part of his family or entourage?



There is a reason Williams is consensus #1 and it's not because of his sunny personality. His game is reminiscent of those two. That's why people are excited. You say he didn't elevate USC? Well Mahomes didn't elevate Texas Tech. Daniels looks like he has a nice strong arm, he isn't in Williams' class right now.


Consensus #1? I've seen many people in the last couple months talk about Maye being rated higher and now seeing people say the same about Daniels. I love all 3 as prospects personally. But Williams is not a consensus #1. He may have been thought of that way last may, but he isn't now. Daniels is going to kill it at the combine and put himself in the #1 pick discussion. There's no "consensus" right now. You're working with old info. Months old.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I still think Williams is the top QB prospect  
k2tampa : 11/25/2023 11:23 pm : link
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I don't doubt Daniels has a very good arm and will rise on boards. But Williams' best trait relates to his arm, ability to move, keep eyes downfield, and throw into tight windows on the run. It's potential Mahomes/Rodgers stuff.



I’m sorry. You lost me when you compared Williams to Mahomes and Rodgers. You realize Williams did NOT elevate the USC team, besides the absurdity of comparing his arm talent to 2 of the best QBs to ever play the game? Are you part of his family or entourage?



There is a reason Williams is consensus #1 and it's not because of his sunny personality. His game is reminiscent of those two. That's why people are excited. You say he didn't elevate USC? Well Mahomes didn't elevate Texas Tech. Daniels looks like he has a nice strong arm, he isn't in Williams' class right now.


Consensus No. 1 by whom? Draft pundits? Neither you nor I know what NFL scouts think of Williams and Daniels, or the other QBs. Williams is the 'consensus number one' because he won the Heisman last year. You use words like potential and reminiscent. How many times have we heard 'he's the next LT'?

Daniels has had one game below 63 percent completions - and that was 59.5 in the first game of the year against a good FSU team. Williams has had 4 games below 63, including 56, 56 and 57.

And then there is the fact one has run for more than 1100 yards and the other for 140.

If you want to say Williams has Mahomes like traits, well Daniels is a taller, faster, more accurate Lamar Jackson who might actually get through progressions better than Lamar.

But this is all talk. Just like with election polls there is only one draft guide that matters - the one that gets written on April 25th.
RE: Uh oh, Drake Maye is injured  
Anakim : 11/25/2023 11:24 pm : link
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He's coming back in. Why? IDK. The game is lost. But it appears Maye is okay.
I'm also leaning towards Jayden Daniels as QB1  
Anakim : 11/25/2023 11:57 pm : link
Caleb Williams against ranked teams: 4-9 (.308)

Drake Maye against ranked teams: 1-3 (.250)




I will say that USC's O-Line is terrible and UNC's offense sucks balls as well
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I still think Williams is the top QB prospect  
NJBlueTuna : 11/26/2023 12:14 am : link
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I don't doubt Daniels has a very good arm and will rise on boards. But Williams' best trait relates to his arm, ability to move, keep eyes downfield, and throw into tight windows on the run. It's potential Mahomes/Rodgers stuff.



I’m sorry. You lost me when you compared Williams to Mahomes and Rodgers. You realize Williams did NOT elevate the USC team, besides the absurdity of comparing his arm talent to 2 of the best QBs to ever play the game? Are you part of his family or entourage?



There is a reason Williams is consensus #1 and it's not because of his sunny personality. His game is reminiscent of those two. That's why people are excited. You say he didn't elevate USC? Well Mahomes didn't elevate Texas Tech. Daniels looks like he has a nice strong arm, he isn't in Williams' class right now.


You provide zero analysis, just your conclusions based upon non quoted sources. Hard pass, we disagree.
Will be interesting  
NJBlueTuna : 11/26/2023 12:19 am : link
To see if either Williams Daniels or Maye play in any bowl games their team is eligible for. I think they’re done until the draft.
RE: Doak Walker Award non finalist Estime takes it to the house.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/26/2023 7:09 am : link
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All 17 Stanford fans at the game are very disappointed


Estime not being a Doak Award finalist is a complete joke.
Daniels should absolutely be in the conversation for #1  
RCPhoenix : 11/26/2023 7:52 am : link
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/26/2023 7:58 am : link
I'm looking forward to Iowa Michigan like I'm looking forward to a hole in my head.

I am interested in UGA 'Bama.
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Spider56 : 11/26/2023 8:19 am : link
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I'm looking forward to Iowa Michigan like I'm looking forward to a hole in my head.

I am interested in UGA 'Bama.


Oregon / Washington on Friday should be the best of the conf championship games, with Oklahoma St / Texas as a maybe. Georgia and Michigan should win easily. The wild card is Louisville / FSU. Hopefully Louisville will bounce back after yesterday and take the Noles out of the final 4 discussion.
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RCPhoenix : 11/26/2023 8:39 am : link
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I'm looking forward to Iowa Michigan like I'm looking forward to a hole in my head.

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Oregon / Washington on Friday should be the best of the conf championship games, with Oklahoma St / Texas as a maybe. Georgia and Michigan should win easily. The wild card is Louisville / FSU. Hopefully Louisville will bounce back after yesterday and take the Noles out of the final 4 discussion.


I’m not so sure Georgia wins easily.

If Michigan can score more than two TDs and not turn over the ball they will win without difficulty. The only time Iowa played a decent Big Ten
Team this year in Penn State they were smoked.
Oregon a  
ajr2456 : 11/26/2023 8:50 am : link
9 point favorite against Washington
RE: Oregon a  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/26/2023 8:54 am : link
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Seems high IMO.
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shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/26/2023 9:11 am : link
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Seems high IMO.


Not really. Oregon is playing well. Washington has needed miracles against teams that aren’t particularly good. The same Stanford team you watched yesterday had the ball down two late in the fourth quarter against the Huskies. They needed a game ending FG against the Cougs. They looked terrible against Arizona State.
Well I wonder what the Committee  
section125 : 11/26/2023 9:21 am : link
will do this week to try and drop FSU from the playoffs again.
Rankings this week should be:  
RCPhoenix : 11/26/2023 9:23 am : link
1. Georgia
2. Michigan
3. Washington
4. Florida State
shockey  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/26/2023 9:27 am : link
I didn’t watch a second of ND Stanford. I couldn’t find the network. I followed on phone.
RE: Well I wonder what the Committee  
BigBlueShock : 11/26/2023 9:31 am : link
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will do this week to try and drop FSU from the playoffs again.

To be fair, FSU didn’t look remotely close to a top 4 team yesterday. Sure they squeaked out a win against a bad Florida team but it certainly wasn’t pretty. They should still be ranked 4 based on being undefeated and I fully expect them to be. But losing their QB has really hurt their chances to win a game in the playoffs. Without Travis, I’m not sure anyone outside of FSU fans have much of an appetite to watch them get curbstomped by Georgia in the playoffs. I was really rooting for them to get in when Travis was playing but, they stood a punchers chance, imo. Not so much now
RE: RE: Well I wonder what the Committee  
section125 : 11/26/2023 9:46 am : link
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will do this week to try and drop FSU from the playoffs again.


To be fair, FSU didn’t look remotely close to a top 4 team yesterday. Sure they squeaked out a win against a bad Florida team but it certainly wasn’t pretty. They should still be ranked 4 based on being undefeated and I fully expect them to be. But losing their QB has really hurt their chances to win a game in the playoffs. Without Travis, I’m not sure anyone outside of FSU fans have much of an appetite to watch them get curbstomped by Georgia in the playoffs. I was really rooting for them to get in when Travis was playing but, they stood a punchers chance, imo. Not so much now


FWIW, Washington barely beat Wash St and they had their starting QB. Remember Florida's record is identical to Wash St and SEC football is far better tha PAC-12. And Georgia squeaked out a win vs Georgia Tech. Down here UM, UF and FSU playing each other is death sport. (Probably like most rivalry games.) If UF was 2-8 and beat FSU it would be virtually a successful season.

FSU's defense will keep them in any game. UFs 1st TD was a gimmee from the refs calling a PF on a simple tackle play. Norvelle was way to cautious with the QB. I think his 1st half offense decisions have been awful all year. Not sure why he is so conservative to start games.

Georgia isn't really Georgia this year, but very few teams would beat Georgia.

Michigan probably wipes the floor with Washington.
Michigan lays the wood on defense plus Harbaugh returns  
Rick in Dallas : 11/26/2023 10:15 am : link
Should be a easy win over Iowa.
Intrigued by Georgia vs Bama as Georgia defense not as strong as previous 2 years.
Oregon should handle Huskies who are not playing that well. Penix has struggled a bit.
If Ewers is on Texas should beat OSU.
I have no idea about FSU vs Louisville. I do know I want the Giants to draft Benson to replace Barkley.
RE: Well I wonder what the Committee  
ajr2456 : 11/26/2023 10:17 am : link
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Everyone from ESPN trying to make the case for it. I keep seeing people say “we can’t have another TCU”, while ignoring that TCU dominated their semi final
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BigBlueShock : 11/26/2023 10:33 am : link
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will do this week to try and drop FSU from the playoffs again.


To be fair, FSU didn’t look remotely close to a top 4 team yesterday. Sure they squeaked out a win against a bad Florida team but it certainly wasn’t pretty. They should still be ranked 4 based on being undefeated and I fully expect them to be. But losing their QB has really hurt their chances to win a game in the playoffs. Without Travis, I’m not sure anyone outside of FSU fans have much of an appetite to watch them get curbstomped by Georgia in the playoffs. I was really rooting for them to get in when Travis was playing but, they stood a punchers chance, imo. Not so much now



FWIW, Washington barely beat Wash St and they had their starting QB. Remember Florida's record is identical to Wash St and SEC football is far better tha PAC-12. And Georgia squeaked out a win vs Georgia Tech. Down here UM, UF and FSU playing each other is death sport. (Probably like most rivalry games.) If UF was 2-8 and beat FSU it would be virtually a successful season.

FSU's defense will keep them in any game. UFs 1st TD was a gimmee from the refs calling a PF on a simple tackle play. Norvelle was way to cautious with the QB. I think his 1st half offense decisions have been awful all year. Not sure why he is so conservative to start games.

Georgia isn't really Georgia this year, but very few teams would beat Georgia.

Michigan probably wipes the floor with Washington.

Not sure what Washington has to do with anything. They aren’t getting in. Besides that, I clearly said that FSU likely has the 4 spot for now so I’m not sure what you’re arguing about? It’s my personal opinion that FSU isn’t good enough to beat any of the other 3 teams with their QB. It’s ok to have opinions.

I get it. You live in Florida and want to fiercely defend FSU. And that’s cool. But no sense getting your panties in a bunch before we even see how things shake out. Seems like a tremendous waste of energy to me
Bama winning  
Lines of Scrimmage : 11/26/2023 10:37 am : link
could shake things up quite a bit.

RE: Well I wonder what the Committee  
bw in dc : 11/26/2023 10:44 am : link
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If the Committee is being honest, FSU is just not the same team without Travis. So, there is a reasonable case to drop them out because they just aren't one of the four best teams right now.

To me, the four best teams playing right now are Georgia, Michigan, Washington and Oregon.

And I could buy someone saying Ohio State still belongs in that conversation.
Washington has been  
ajr2456 : 11/26/2023 10:51 am : link
Terrible the past month
RE: RE: Well I wonder what the Committee  
section125 : 11/26/2023 10:55 am : link
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will do this week to try and drop FSU from the playoffs again.



If the Committee is being honest, FSU is just not the same team without Travis. So, there is a reasonable case to drop them out because they just aren't one of the four best teams right now.

To me, the four best teams playing right now are Georgia, Michigan, Washington and Oregon.

And I could buy someone saying Ohio State still belongs in that conversation.


Wahington is PAC-12 and that itself is questionable.

You could probably throw in OSU, Texas and Alabama(who got lucky yesterday). Georgia and Michigan are probably the best two teams, period. With Travis, FSU is very dangerous and likely #3. I can semi understand FSU as less attractive and perhaps Louisville gives then a bad time. Let's see if Norvelle lets Rodemaker make some plays next week.

Like the NFL, the NCAA wants lots of offense, so I can see them looking to bypass FSU based on offensive expectations. When you look at it from the commercial POV, I can see it.
RE: That rivalry...  
Del Shofner : 11/26/2023 11:32 am : link
In comment 16301148 bw in dc said:
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is just insane.

A game where the records really don't matter...

BTW, I think the slot receiver for Bama was offsides on that winning TD.


Just chiming in now, and had no dog in the hunt, but that was a great college football game. Unbelievable ending.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/26/2023 11:34 am : link
You just know the committee is rooting for Louisville.
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section125 : 11/26/2023 12:27 pm : link
In comment 16301521 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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You just know the committee is rooting for Louisville.


But hoping Alabama does not upset Georgia....
RE: RE: Well I wonder what the Committee  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/26/2023 12:42 pm : link
In comment 16301475 bw in dc said:
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In comment 16301398 section125 said:


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will do this week to try and drop FSU from the playoffs again.



If the Committee is being honest, FSU is just not the same team without Travis. So, there is a reasonable case to drop them out because they just aren't one of the four best teams right now.

To me, the four best teams playing right now are Georgia, Michigan, Washington and Oregon.

And I could buy someone saying Ohio State still belongs in that conversation.


I agree with everything you’ve said except I’d replace Washington with Texas or Ohio State. The Huskies haven’t played well since the Oregon game.
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