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Anakim : 11/30/2023 2:53 pm
Who we rooting for, folks? Fuck the Cowboys, but Seahawks losing equals a higher second rounder...

If a meteor hits the stadium, does that mean it's considered a Seahawks loss?
Cowboys winning is better for us.  
robbieballs2003 : 11/30/2023 2:54 pm : link
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besides the draft position from Seattle  
Giantsfan79 : 11/30/2023 3:00 pm : link
it's always better to watch Dallas's expectations - which get higher with each win - pop when they lose in the playoffs.
i want the Seahawks to win  
cjac : 11/30/2023 3:19 pm : link
and one of Geno Smiths teamates punch him in the face again after the game
RE: Cowboys winning is better for us.  
k2tampa : 11/30/2023 3:29 pm : link
In comment 16308894 robbieballs2003 said:
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If you're talking about the draft that is only true if you're just looking at the 2nd round pick from Seattle. A Cowboys win hurts us in strength of schedule against the Jets and Tennessee in the first round because it counts as 2 wins by an opponent. A Seattle win only counts as one win. And the same will be true when they play the Eagles.

Giants fans should want Seattle to win this game (and/or the Eagles game), but lose every other game possible. I'd rather pick two spots higher in round one and four spots lower in the second half of round 2.
RE: RE: Cowboys winning is better for us.  
Jim in Tampa : 11/30/2023 3:50 pm : link
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If you're talking about the draft that is only true if you're just looking at the 2nd round pick from Seattle. A Cowboys win hurts us in strength of schedule against the Jets and Tennessee in the first round because it counts as 2 wins by an opponent. A Seattle win only counts as one win. And the same will be true when they play the Eagles.

Giants fans should want Seattle to win this game (and/or the Eagles game), but lose every other game possible. I'd rather pick two spots higher in round one and four spots lower in the second half of round 2.

That's a solid point. But a loss by Seattle against the 'Boys is guaranteed to impact their draft position in RD-2, whereas, there is no guarantee that the Giants will tie either the Jets or the Titans to impact the Giants' RD-1 draft position.
The cowboys are still in play  
UConn4523 : 11/30/2023 3:51 pm : link
for the division so I’d like them to keep winning to make week 18 meaningful. That might be a bigger factor than SOS.
RE: The cowboys are still in play  
k2tampa : 11/30/2023 3:54 pm : link
In comment 16308973 UConn4523 said:
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for the division so I’d like them to keep winning to make week 18 meaningful. That might be a bigger factor than SOS.


I'll keep saying this till I'm blue in the face. There is no way in hell that Sirianni and the Eagles don't try to crush the Giants in that game. First, they hate the Giants. Second, their fans hate the Giants and the game is in Philly. And third, if they sit their starters they will go three weeks between games. No coach is going to do that. Some of the starter might only play a half, but that will be plenty.
I think it's criminal that Dallas is getting two Thursday night home  
Bramton1 : 11/30/2023 3:56 pm : link
games. Take about a home field advantage.
RE: RE: RE: Cowboys winning is better for us.  
k2tampa : 11/30/2023 4:14 pm : link
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If you're talking about the draft that is only true if you're just looking at the 2nd round pick from Seattle. A Cowboys win hurts us in strength of schedule against the Jets and Tennessee in the first round because it counts as 2 wins by an opponent. A Seattle win only counts as one win. And the same will be true when they play the Eagles.

Giants fans should want Seattle to win this game (and/or the Eagles game), but lose every other game possible. I'd rather pick two spots higher in round one and four spots lower in the second half of round 2.


That's a solid point. But a loss by Seattle against the 'Boys is guaranteed to impact their draft position in RD-2, whereas, there is no guarantee that the Giants will tie either the Jets or the Titans to impact the Giants' RD-1 draft position.


I can pretty much guarantee you the Giants will be tied with someone, so SOS will come into play. There are 6 other teams with four wins and five more with 5 wins. I can guarantee that as much as you can guarantee one loss will change the Seahawks spot.

The Seahawks aren't going to lose out, they still have Tennessee and Arizona. So you can expect 8 wins at a minimum. Do you really think the difference between picking 18th and 22nd in the second round is more important than the difference between picking 4th and 7th in the first? Just look at the trade charts and you'll see how much weight the teams value the difference in those picks.

Also, need comes into play more in the late second than in the early first. At that point the Giants might be focusing on DL while the teams in front of them are focusing on WR. In the first, the Giants, Jets, and Commanders are all going to be looking for a QB. Those are teams we might tie with. Imagine if, say, Daniels is the last of the three QBs on the board and the Jets or the Commanders pick right before us and get him because the edged us in SOS because Seattle lost to Dallas. And we have to watch Jets fans celebrate for years. Or struggle for years against Washington. How happy would you be that they picked four spots earlier in round two then?

I've lived thru a lot of Giants high draft picks where they ended up, say, fifth in a five player draft (Cedric Jones instead of Jonathan Ogden is the best, but not only example). I'd rather not have that happen again and miss out on a guy the Giants desperately need by one pick, all to pick four spots earlier in round 2.
RE: RE: The cowboys are still in play  
shyster : 11/30/2023 4:16 pm : link
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for the division so I’d like them to keep winning to make week 18 meaningful. That might be a bigger factor than SOS.



I'll keep saying this till I'm blue in the face. There is no way in hell that Sirianni and the Eagles don't try to crush the Giants in that game. First, they hate the Giants. Second, their fans hate the Giants and the game is in Philly. And third, if they sit their starters they will go three weeks between games. No coach is going to do that. Some of the starter might only play a half, but that will be plenty.


The Week 18 game is at MetLife, not Philly. If the Eagles don't need the game, I don't see them risking injury to Hurts for even the first half. He didn't play a down in the preseason.
RE: RE: The cowboys are still in play  
UConn4523 : 11/30/2023 4:30 pm : link
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for the division so I’d like them to keep winning to make week 18 meaningful. That might be a bigger factor than SOS.



I'll keep saying this till I'm blue in the face. There is no way in hell that Sirianni and the Eagles don't try to crush the Giants in that game. First, they hate the Giants. Second, their fans hate the Giants and the game is in Philly. And third, if they sit their starters they will go three weeks between games. No coach is going to do that. Some of the starter might only play a half, but that will be plenty.


While I certainly agree that the likely won’t sit players, it isn’t guaranteed especially if someone like Hurts is banged up.
RE: The cowboys are still in play  
Optimus-NY : 11/30/2023 4:31 pm : link
In comment 16308973 UConn4523 said:
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for the division so I’d like them to keep winning to make week 18 meaningful. That might be a bigger factor than SOS.


Agreed
I could never cheer for either team, I hate Pete Carroll and I could  
Jack Stroud : 11/30/2023 5:01 pm : link
never root for anything but injuries for the cowturds! Hopefully the Giants that will build a team that can once again beat the cowturds and the green slime!
RE: i want the Seahawks to win  
Jack Stroud : 11/30/2023 5:01 pm : link
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and one of Geno Smiths teamates punch him in the face again after the game
I like the way you think!
RE: I think it's criminal that Dallas is getting two Thursday night home  
Jack Stroud : 11/30/2023 5:03 pm : link
In comment 16308985 Bramton1 said:
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games. Take about a home field advantage.
Jerrah has a huge influence over the NFL, just look at the refereeing for their home games!
RE: RE: RE: RE: Cowboys winning is better for us.  
joeinpa : 11/30/2023 5:04 pm : link
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If you're talking about the draft that is only true if you're just looking at the 2nd round pick from Seattle. A Cowboys win hurts us in strength of schedule against the Jets and Tennessee in the first round because it counts as 2 wins by an opponent. A Seattle win only counts as one win. And the same will be true when they play the Eagles.

Giants fans should want Seattle to win this game (and/or the Eagles game), but lose every other game possible. I'd rather pick two spots higher in round one and four spots lower in the second half of round 2.


That's a solid point. But a loss by Seattle against the 'Boys is guaranteed to impact their draft position in RD-2, whereas, there is no guarantee that the Giants will tie either the Jets or the Titans to impact the Giants' RD-1 draft position.



I can pretty much guarantee you the Giants will be tied with someone, so SOS will come into play. There are 6 other teams with four wins and five more with 5 wins. I can guarantee that as much as you can guarantee one loss will change the Seahawks spot.

The Seahawks aren't going to lose out, they still have Tennessee and Arizona. So you can expect 8 wins at a minimum. Do you really think the difference between picking 18th and 22nd in the second round is more important than the difference between picking 4th and 7th in the first? Just look at the trade charts and you'll see how much weight the teams value the difference in those picks.

Also, need comes into play more in the late second than in the early first. At that point the Giants might be focusing on DL while the teams in front of them are focusing on WR. In the first, the Giants, Jets, and Commanders are all going to be looking for a QB. Those are teams we might tie with. Imagine if, say, Daniels is the last of the three QBs on the board and the Jets or the Commanders pick right before us and get him because the edged us in SOS because Seattle lost to Dallas. And we have to watch Jets fans celebrate for years. Or struggle for years against Washington. How happy would you be that they picked four spots earlier in round two then?

I've lived thru a lot of Giants high draft picks where they ended up, say, fifth in a five player draft (Cedric Jones instead of Jonathan Ogden is the best, but not only example). I'd rather not have that happen again and miss out on a guy the Giants desperately need by one pick, all to pick four spots earlier in round 2.


5 player draft? I don’t remember, but are you suggesting there were no great players drafted after Giants took Cedric Jones?

Because if there were, it was just a bad pick and not the result of bad draft placement
So If There Are Positives And Negatives Regardless Of The Outcome  
Trainmaster : 11/30/2023 5:53 pm : link
Then F Dallas; hope they lose by 50 points!

If you are holding onto the playoff dream  
Sean : 11/30/2023 5:59 pm : link
Need to root for Dallas.
Better draft pick  
5BowlsSoon : 11/30/2023 6:11 pm : link
Go Cowboys…
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Del Shofner : 11/30/2023 6:21 pm : link
In comment 16309064 joeinpa said:
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5 player draft? I don’t remember, but are you suggesting there were no great players drafted after Giants took Cedric Jones?

Because if there were, it was just a bad pick and not the result of bad draft placement


There were a bunch of good or even great players picked after Jones. Ray Lewis and Marvin Harrison (Sr.), to name two.
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Jack Stroud : 11/30/2023 6:47 pm : link
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If you're talking about the draft that is only true if you're just looking at the 2nd round pick from Seattle. A Cowboys win hurts us in strength of schedule against the Jets and Tennessee in the first round because it counts as 2 wins by an opponent. A Seattle win only counts as one win. And the same will be true when they play the Eagles.

Giants fans should want Seattle to win this game (and/or the Eagles game), but lose every other game possible. I'd rather pick two spots higher in round one and four spots lower in the second half of round 2.


That's a solid point. But a loss by Seattle against the 'Boys is guaranteed to impact their draft position in RD-2, whereas, there is no guarantee that the Giants will tie either the Jets or the Titans to impact the Giants' RD-1 draft position.



I can pretty much guarantee you the Giants will be tied with someone, so SOS will come into play. There are 6 other teams with four wins and five more with 5 wins. I can guarantee that as much as you can guarantee one loss will change the Seahawks spot.

The Seahawks aren't going to lose out, they still have Tennessee and Arizona. So you can expect 8 wins at a minimum. Do you really think the difference between picking 18th and 22nd in the second round is more important than the difference between picking 4th and 7th in the first? Just look at the trade charts and you'll see how much weight the teams value the difference in those picks.

Also, need comes into play more in the late second than in the early first. At that point the Giants might be focusing on DL while the teams in front of them are focusing on WR. In the first, the Giants, Jets, and Commanders are all going to be looking for a QB. Those are teams we might tie with. Imagine if, say, Daniels is the last of the three QBs on the board and the Jets or the Commanders pick right before us and get him because the edged us in SOS because Seattle lost to Dallas. And we have to watch Jets fans celebrate for years. Or struggle for years against Washington. How happy would you be that they picked four spots earlier in round two then?

I've lived thru a lot of Giants high draft picks where they ended up, say, fifth in a five player draft (Cedric Jones instead of Jonathan Ogden is the best, but not only example). I'd rather not have that happen again and miss out on a guy the Giants desperately need by one pick, all to pick four spots earlier in round 2.



5 player draft? I don’t remember, but are you suggesting there were no great players drafted after Giants took Cedric Jones?

Because if there were, it was just a bad pick and not the result of bad draft placement
The Giants have their qb and it appears good back up qb, so move off the qb draft in the first round! Oline, dline, LB, pass rusher, wr re bigger needs!
I’m biting by lip  
Joe Beckwith : 11/30/2023 7:32 pm : link
and rooting for that Texas team.
Looking at Seattles schedule after tonight:
49ers
Eagles
Titans
Steelers
Cardinals
They SHOULD win the last 3, so losing tonight then the next 2 gets them to 9-8 and the playoffs but it should force them vs a better playoff team and keep them in the lower 20s. Hopefully Pitt ( another team I dislike) brings an upset, gets them to 8-9 and possibly oout of the playoffs but at 20.
RE: If you are holding onto the playoff dream  
armstead98 : 11/30/2023 7:38 pm : link
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Need to root for Dallas.


This and seattles pick are enough for me. Hate rooting for cowboys but it’s a rare occasion where I will
Great play to Metcalf  
UConn4523 : 11/30/2023 8:33 pm : link
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DPOY got roasted by Metcalf  
JoeyBigBlue : 11/30/2023 8:35 pm : link
Wow…
What was the Dallas S doing?  
BigBlueNH : 11/30/2023 8:35 pm : link
He could have made a play on Metcalf, but ran right by him.
RE: Cowboys winning is better for us.  
DavidinBMNY : 11/30/2023 8:37 pm : link
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we want the cowboys to win every game, and that the last game of the season matters to the eagles because they lose .
Ceedee is playing out of his mind  
JoeyBigBlue : 11/30/2023 8:39 pm : link
The last few games.
Prescott has a clean pocket  
Chip : 11/30/2023 8:41 pm : link
on every throw including the sack when he had quite a bit of time to get rid of the ball.
That Seattle Uniform is brilliant  
Chef : 11/30/2023 8:47 pm : link
Gotta go back to that ....
Metcalf and AJ brown  
JT039 : 11/30/2023 8:48 pm : link
Were college teammates. How the hell did their QB not win a heisman
I always smile  
JT039 : 11/30/2023 8:50 pm : link
When hearing…

“Wide Right”
RE: That Seattle Uniform is brilliant  
terz22 : 11/30/2023 8:51 pm : link
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Gotta go back to that ....


This. And please ditched the neon greens
Couple of great Metcalf catches  
JohnC in the EndZone : 11/30/2023 8:53 pm : link
RE: Metcalf and AJ brown  
section125 : 11/30/2023 8:56 pm : link
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Were college teammates. How the hell did their QB not win a heisman


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k2tampa : 11/30/2023 9:02 pm : link
In comment 16309112 Del Shofner said:
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5 player draft? I don’t remember, but are you suggesting there were no great players drafted after Giants took Cedric Jones?

Because if there were, it was just a bad pick and not the result of bad draft placement



There were a bunch of good or even great players picked after Jones. Ray Lewis and Marvin Harrison (Sr.), to name two.


Sure, but the first four in that draft were studs. All pros. All played positions the Giants needed, especially Ogden.
Anyone should want to pick 4th ahead of the Jets and Commanders rather than four spots earlier in round 2. There are lots of good players taken later than 18 in round 2 who become stars.
Bobby Wagner  
Sammo85 : 11/30/2023 9:06 pm : link
is really slow. He’s getting killed when caught in coverage.
RE: RE: The cowboys are still in play  
Blue21 : 11/30/2023 9:08 pm : link
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for the division so I’d like them to keep winning to make week 18 meaningful. That might be a bigger factor than SOS.



I'll keep saying this till I'm blue in the face. There is no way in hell that Sirianni and the Eagles don't try to crush the Giants in that game. First, they hate the Giants. Second, their fans hate the Giants and the game is in Philly. And third, if they sit their starters they will go three weeks between games. No coach is going to do that. Some of the starter might only play a half, but that will be plenty.
100% agree
Dallas is so far out of NYG league  
ColHowPepper : 11/30/2023 9:09 pm : link
depressing
Dallas’ secondary looks horrific  
UConn4523 : 11/30/2023 9:12 pm : link
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RE: RE: Cowboys winning is better for us.  
k2tampa : 11/30/2023 9:13 pm : link
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we want the cowboys to win every game, and that the last game of the season matters to the eagles because they lose .


Sirianni and the Eagles will want to crush the Giants in front of the Philly fans even if they are 15-1 going into the game. Nor will he want the starters not playing for three weeks. I'd bet my house Sirianni and his team will do whatever they can to stomp the Giants into the turf. This isn't KC, it's the Eagles. They hate the Giants and vice versa. Losing to the Giants at home would be an embarrassment for them. They aren't going to role over.
Did you see that PI on the Lockett pass??  
DefenseWins : 11/30/2023 9:13 pm : link
Lockett is a pro. He knows to work back to the ball and into the defender to draw the flag.

This is an art that many WRs need to learn. Not sure that we have a WR on our roster who knows to do this.
Are all of these throwbacks uniforms just awesome  
Chris684 : 11/30/2023 9:16 pm : link
Or is that the nostalgia for my childhood talking?

These Seahawks unis are excellent.

Our 80s-90s era is so much better.

80s-90s Jets is way better.

Bucs creamsicles

Eagles Kelley greens way better than what they have now

Just about every throwback I can think of I like better.
Is that Jonathan Hankins  
section125 : 11/30/2023 9:17 pm : link
#95? Holy crap is he fat.
_____________  
I am Ninja : 11/30/2023 9:21 pm : link
You guys way overthink this shit.
Waiting for Goddell  
JT039 : 11/30/2023 9:48 pm : link
To say this is incomplete.
Lol  
JT039 : 11/30/2023 9:49 pm : link
Of course
Who is the rules expert for Amazon?  
Chris684 : 11/30/2023 9:51 pm : link
How is he getting word of the call before it’s announced by the ref in the game?

I’ve never seen that before.
RE: RE: RE: Cowboys winning is better for us.  
shyster : 11/30/2023 9:53 pm : link
In comment 16309241 k2tampa said:
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Sirianni and the Eagles will want to crush the Giants in front of the Philly fans even if they are 15-1 going into the game.


The Week 18 game is at MetLife.
So sick of Dak  
FranknWeezer : 11/30/2023 9:54 pm : link
and his stupid play calls
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RE: RE: RE: RE: Cowboys winning is better for us.  
k2tampa : 11/30/2023 9:58 pm : link
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Sirianni and the Eagles will want to crush the Giants in front of the Philly fans even if they are 15-1 going into the game.



The Week 18 game is at MetLife.


And judging by what it's been like the last few years it will be full of Philly fans because Giant fans will sell them their tickets.
I thought that was an interesting stat regarding Seattles OL  
PatersonPlank : 11/30/2023 10:01 pm : link
That they are tied with the Giants for most OL changes, tied for #1 in the league. Yet IMO the Seahawks OL looks much more functional. Coaching, QB/WR play, I just wonder why.
Terry McAulay, rules analyst  
JohnC in the EndZone : 11/30/2023 10:03 pm : link
Dallas not exactly  
jvm52106 : 11/30/2023 10:19 pm : link
Giving the impression that they are going to challenge Philly or SF...
RE: That Seattle Uniform is brilliant  
armstead98 : 11/30/2023 10:26 pm : link
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Maybe my favorite uniform in the league, after giants throwback of course.
Penalty  
GruningsOnTheHill : 11/30/2023 10:26 pm : link
Called on literally every down. Game is tough to watch.
I love games like this  
cjac : 11/30/2023 10:30 pm : link
Where the refs just let them play
Daron Bland  
prdave73 : 11/30/2023 10:43 pm : link
again. Cowboys Org teaching Giants how to draft and scout players. smdh.
Surprised DAL didn’t go for two to potentially tie it up  
FranknWeezer : 11/30/2023 10:45 pm : link
Even though a bit premature in the 3rd; in today’s NFL.
Wasn’t that about as flagrant a facemask on Hankins  
FranknWeezer : 11/30/2023 10:50 pm : link
as there has ever been? Twisted the runner’s neck almost 180 degrees around and they waved off the flag!!
Embarrassing  
section125 : 11/30/2023 10:50 pm : link
officiating again. Throwing flags. Picking flags up.
Wow.  
section125 : 11/30/2023 10:54 pm : link
Giants really suck. REALLY suck.
Another choke job…  
Chris in Philly : 11/30/2023 10:54 pm : link
in the offing by Dunkin McCarthy. Maybe we’ll get another thread about how wonderful he is.
Cowboy's D has been awful tonight.  
BigBlueNH : 11/30/2023 10:55 pm : link
Really awful. Id be concerned about if I was a fan.
WItherspoon is a mosnter  
bigbluewillrise : 11/30/2023 10:59 pm : link
my goodness
RE: Cowboy's D has been awful tonight.  
Chris in Philly : 11/30/2023 11:00 pm : link
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Really awful. Id be concerned about if I was a fan.


They do seem a little disinterested.
the one time Dak "forced" it  
bigbluewillrise : 11/30/2023 11:00 pm : link
it went right through lambs hands lol
money throw.
getting the ball out to the peritmeter to screens  
bigbluewillrise : 11/30/2023 11:11 pm : link
has been the key tonight - stretch this dallas D horitzantally
4th and 1/2 yard  
section125 : 11/30/2023 11:12 pm : link
and the dreaded deep handoff for a yard loss at midfield. Why are OCs so stupid against a quick defense like Dallas?

I liked going for it, but either a dive or a quick slant is the call.
Did the defenses…  
Chris in Philly : 11/30/2023 11:19 pm : link
go to a different stadium?
I guess that’s good but it  
dancing blue bear : 11/30/2023 11:19 pm : link
Also makes me ill
dak has no one around him every time  
bigbluewillrise : 11/30/2023 11:20 pm : link
its nuts....


ive never seen an OL like this in yearsssss
You can take the player off the Jets,  
St. Jimmy : 11/30/2023 11:21 pm : link
you can't take the Jets out of the player.
Dallas not exactly  
jvm52106 : 11/30/2023 11:21 pm : link
Giving the impression that they are going to challenge Philly or SF...
What on earth…  
Chris in Philly : 11/30/2023 11:25 pm : link
was that?
Geno Smith still sucks  
JT039 : 11/30/2023 11:25 pm : link
Just totally ignored Metcalf the last quarter and a half.
RE: That Seattle Uniform is brilliant  
St. Jimmy : 11/30/2023 11:25 pm : link
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Gotta go back to that ....
I was thinking the same thing. Makes their normal uniform look awful.
RE: 4th and 1/2 yard  
k2tampa : 11/30/2023 11:26 pm : link
In comment 16309329 section125 said:
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and the dreaded deep handoff for a yard loss at midfield. Why are OCs so stupid against a quick defense like Dallas?

I liked going for it, but either a dive or a quick slant is the call.


Why go for it at midfield with a lead. Again, the stupidity of analytics.
The smart play here is to run it 3 times and kick the FG  
BigBlueNH : 11/30/2023 11:29 pm : link
But I don't think McCarthy is smart. Lets see if he screws this up.
Like I said, McCarthy is an idiot.  
BigBlueNH : 11/30/2023 11:33 pm : link
Gave Seattle an extra 45 seconds for no good reason.
Why do you not run the ball there?  
St. Jimmy : 11/30/2023 11:34 pm : link
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Lol at McCarthy doing McCarthy things  
Chris684 : 11/30/2023 11:34 pm : link
It’s 4th and 3, you absolutely have to call anything other than a fade into the end zone.

You run the ball.

If you don’t want to run, at least throw a higher percentage pass play to the sticks.

Geno Smith still sucks  
JT039 : 11/30/2023 11:39 pm : link
Donkey balls.

0 targets for your best WR in the last 22:00 minutes of game action.

Seattle needs a new QB desperately.
Lmaooo  
terz22 : 11/30/2023 11:39 pm : link
Great play call there
Sorry 1 target  
JT039 : 11/30/2023 11:40 pm : link
And it was a TD.

This is why stats are meaningless. Geno always chokes with the game on the line.
Terrible coaching…  
Chris in Philly : 11/30/2023 11:40 pm : link
oh this game.
Why are nfl oc’s  
Breeze_94 : 11/30/2023 11:41 pm : link
Not smart enough to double a guy like Parsons in a 2 min situation. At least chip him with a TE

He torched the RT 1on1 2 plays in a row, then the 4th down play they didn’t even block him….if so was a Seattle fan I’d be livid at the offensive staff
Dallas is  
prdave73 : 11/30/2023 11:46 pm : link
well coached team. Let's be real. Great teams know how to win.
Seattle played  
section125 : 11/30/2023 11:48 pm : link
better than I thought they could. But how do you leave Micah Parsons unblocked on a 4th and 2 play?
RE: Dallas is  
Chris684 : 11/30/2023 11:51 pm : link
In comment 16309357 prdave73 said:
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well coached team. Let's be real. Great teams know how to win.


Dallas is an extremely talented team. I’m not sure how well coached they are.

I thought McCarthy was stupid not to take the 3 points after the Bland interception at a point in the game when Seattle was gaining some momentum.

The 4th down call was atrocious and could have easily lost them the game.

Dallas is amazing with their personnel. They draft as well as anyone in the league.
RE: Dallas is  
Chris in Philly : 11/30/2023 11:53 pm : link
In comment 16309357 prdave73 said:
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well coached team. Let's be real. Great teams know how to win.


Oh please. Who have they beaten?
RE: Seattle played  
Chris in Philly : 11/30/2023 11:54 pm : link
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better than I thought they could. But how do you leave Micah Parsons unblocked on a 4th and 2 play?


We set the template for them!
The analytics 'experts'  
k2tampa : 11/30/2023 11:54 pm : link
Gave away another game.
RE: Who is the rules expert for Amazon?  
Eman11 : 11/30/2023 11:55 pm : link
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How is he getting word of the call before it’s announced by the ref in the game?

I’ve never seen that before.


The only thing I can think of is he’s actually listening in on the replay talk between the ref and replay HQ. Maybe the league allows these guys to plug in and hear the discussion.
Dak is dialed in there's no doubt about it  
jinkies : 12/1/2023 12:08 am : link
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RE: RE: Dallas is  
prdave73 : 12/1/2023 12:13 am : link
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well coached team. Let's be real. Great teams know how to win.



Oh please. Who have they beaten?


The fact they can come back and beat you even when they are down. The fact that they really only have one good WR in Lamb and can still produce offense. I'm surprised teams don't gameplan to completely shutdown Lamb?! They have a rookie TE that looks like he is an all pro in only his first year. They were getting beat and made good adjustments in the 2nd half. They can put just about anyone on the offensive line and look like they never lost a step. They are consistent.
RE: RE: RE: Dallas is  
section125 : 12/1/2023 5:45 am : link
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well coached team. Let's be real. Great teams know how to win.



Oh please. Who have they beaten?



The fact they can come back and beat you even when they are down. The fact that they really only have one good WR in Lamb and can still produce offense. I'm surprised teams don't gameplan to completely shutdown Lamb?! They have a rookie TE that looks like he is an all pro in only his first year. They were getting beat and made good adjustments in the 2nd half. They can put just about anyone on the offensive line and look like they never lost a step. They are consistent.


They only have one good WR?
I am really impressed with  
JT039 : 12/1/2023 5:58 am : link
Ferguson from Dallas.
Cowboys know how to coach up TE’s  
Rick in Dallas : 12/1/2023 7:17 am : link
Ferguson and Schoonmaker will make a very good duo.

On another note, does Dak get it done this year.
The pressure on Dak has to be great trying to get that SB win. More so than any other QB.
RE: RE: Seattle played  
HBart : 12/1/2023 8:32 am : link
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better than I thought they could. But how do you leave Micah Parsons unblocked on a 4th and 2 play?



We set the template for them!

Great question.

That said, in a game with an impossible number of penalties, Parsons was lined up in the neutral zone, by a lot, on the last 2 plays. One was so far he was probably lined up offsides.
RE: RE: That Seattle Uniform is brilliant  
NINEster : 12/1/2023 11:11 am : link
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Gotta go back to that ....

I was thinking the same thing. Makes their normal uniform look awful.


I believe the "logic" behind all this is that when the Seahawks originally wore those jerseys they were as invisible as an NFL franchise could be.

The darker jerseys that Pete Carroll started out with are actually ok (look up the Beastquake run), and then they unveiled the current jerseys with their 2012 run that foreshadowed the success to come, when they drafted Wagner, Wilson, Irvin, and the LOB was set.

They haven't even worn the 2010-2011 era jerseys since then, so going all the way back to this throwback now is interesting.

It definitely is a better jersey.

No reason for the lime green jerseys at all, but they've had some notable wins in them so in a weird way they've justified wearing them way more than they ever should.

Very interesting way of thinking in the Pacific Northwest.

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