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NGT: what's this Big Dom nonsense?

jinkies : 12/3/2023 11:39 pm
The 49ers lose a great player and the Eagles lose a rent-a-cop? That's bananas. Sideline non-coaching staff can't be touching players. NFL has to do something about it.

Philly is a zoo.
In fairness to the refs, they have been  
St. Jimmy : 12/3/2023 11:51 pm : link
so far up the Eagles' ass this season, what was going on was blocked by Jalen Hurts' tonsils.
Lol  
jinkies : 12/3/2023 11:59 pm : link
But imagine this has an impact on a playoff game. Some fat slob heckles and pushes Cee Dee Lamb and he gets thrown to the ground. I mean it would be hilarious but not a fair ejection or a good look for the league.
At the end of the day, the NFL is an entertainment industry  
200711 : 12/4/2023 2:20 am : link
After all the shit we've been through while watching Philly ascend to a status that transcends the traditional rivalry and become something that I actually fear and respect, it was really fun to see that shit - get my blood boiling over with hatred for Fat Dom, Sirriani and rest of those Philly goons - only to see them get blown out in the end and empty those seats with time on the clock. It was a thing of beauty - never rooted so hard for the 49ers in my life.

Fuck yeah Greenlaw - I loved him in this game. It was just a shame he didn't get a chance to make the ejection count and smash shards of that fat pig's glasses through his fucking eyeballs. Pieces of shit. Don't care what anyone says - I'd give the game ball to Greenlaw. And someone really needs to put that fuck Sirriani in his place.

That place was in a state of hysteria - Erin Andrews was lost for words on the Niners' sideline: "...this is crazy!!"

Made the game more fun. Probably one of the more enjoyable games I've watched this season. Hopefully this is the start of some rapid downhill slope for the Eagles. Just imagine if DeVito's Giants actually managed to sweep them in the end somehow and fuck up everything they've been working towards.

One can dream I guess...

Philly really is the dump everyone says it is.
It seems there are Eagles fans and there are the rest  
Blue21 : 12/4/2023 7:03 am : link
Of the fans that hate you. 31 teams fans that hate the Eagles fans. Thats got to be a record.
I suggested last night  
section125 : 12/4/2023 7:40 am : link
that the NFL fines Fat Dom $25G and the Eagles $100G. Greenlaw is getting a double whammy for the hit and then for sticking his hand in fatso's face. Probably near $50G combined. Fat Dom should probably be told he cannot be on the field for the rest of the season during a game.

After the game, one of the sports reporters suggested that Dom and the Eagles likely get hit hard for this incident. No non-football people should be that close to the sideline anyway.
RE: I suggested last night  
Eman11 : 12/4/2023 7:47 am : link
In comment 16312786 section125 said:
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that the NFL fines Fat Dom $25G and the Eagles $100G. Greenlaw is getting a double whammy for the hit and then for sticking his hand in fatso's face. Probably near $50G combined. Fat Dom should probably be told he cannot be on the field for the rest of the season during a game.

After the game, one of the sports reporters suggested that Dom and the Eagles likely get hit hard for this incident. No non-football people should be that close to the sideline anyway.


I agree. If they don’t take hard action against the Eagles and Dom they’re pretty much setting a bad precedent. What’s to stop other teams from putting a patsy on the sideline in a big game in the hopes of getting a player like Greenlaw tossed? If they don’t come down hard they’re basically encouraging that to happen.
Thought that Greenlaw was ejected for the body slam  
BillT : 12/4/2023 8:12 am : link
Maybe I’m wrong but that is the kind of thing that can get you tossed. The security guy shouldn’t have been anywhere near the game for sure.
RE: Thought that Greenlaw was ejected for the body slam  
LauderdaleMatty : 12/4/2023 8:32 am : link
In comment 16312803 BillT said:
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Maybe I’m wrong but that is the kind of thing that can get you tossed. The security guy shouldn’t have been anywhere near the game for sure.


Think it was both. I'm not sure what the rules are about security personnel being on or around the field. You can bet his fat ass isn't supposed to be inside a player scrum. Willing to be Chunk thinks he's a real first responder. Making sure guys do t get drunk and drive and carry weapons into planes. Hes a real hero to the Philly faithful.
RE: Thought that Greenlaw was ejected for the body slam  
section125 : 12/4/2023 8:36 am : link
In comment 16312803 BillT said:
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Maybe I’m wrong but that is the kind of thing that can get you tossed. The security guy shouldn’t have been anywhere near the game for sure.


No he got PF for that. He was ejected for "contacting a non-player" if I got that terminolgy correct.
Also, Jalen Carter  
section125 : 12/4/2023 8:39 am : link
threw two punches and got 15 yard PF for that. I thought throwing punches was an ejection.
I understand  
Sammo85 : 12/4/2023 8:48 am : link
why teams may have a director of security on their sideline, however there is absolutely no excuse for him literally standing right in the middle of action next to coordinators and the guys running the substitutions.

However, the even bigger embarrassment was for FOX and their team calling the game. Kevin Burkhardt is an unabashed Eagles fan and homer. His calling of the game was downright abysmal, probably due to emotional shock and sadness watching Niners destroy his team. Olsen was a total fanboy yucking up being in "Eagles country" and getting restaurant hookups from "Big Dom" the night before.



RE: I understand  
mfsd : 12/4/2023 8:52 am : link
In comment 16312831 Sammo85 said:
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why teams may have a director of security on their sideline, however there is absolutely no excuse for him literally standing right in the middle of action next to coordinators and the guys running the substitutions.

However, the even bigger embarrassment was for FOX and their team calling the game. Kevin Burkhardt is an unabashed Eagles fan and homer. His calling of the game was downright abysmal, probably due to emotional shock and sadness watching Niners destroy his team. Olsen was a total fanboy yucking up being in "Eagles country" and getting restaurant hookups from "Big Dom" the night before.




I hope Olsen fulfilled his dream of giving big Dom a blow job after the game. The announcers were disgraceful talking about it. Any other team, and they would have screamed about how out of line the guy was
I don’t see how Fat Dom  
Ben in Tampa : 12/4/2023 9:01 am : link
Doesn’t get fired. I think he knew it too afterwards.



I hate Philly and the Eagles  
bigbluehoya : 12/4/2023 9:13 am : link
as much as anyone, but it would be kind of absurd for this guy to lose his job. He's been with the team for 25 years and by every account I've seen is a stand-up guy and well-liked.

He stepped out of line a little bit, and probably shouldn't have been that close to the field of play to begin with.

He was separating the players and shouldn't have put his hand on Greenlaw, and certainly should have kept his mouth shut, but there wasn't anything over-the-top.

I think the league will inflict some pain on the employee and the team to set an example, but I don't think he did anything that warrants throwing the entire book at him.
RE: RE: Thought that Greenlaw was ejected for the body slam  
jinkies : 12/4/2023 9:19 am : link
In comment 16312824 section125 said:
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Maybe I’m wrong but that is the kind of thing that can get you tossed. The security guy shouldn’t have been anywhere near the game for sure.



No he got PF for that. He was ejected for "contacting a non-player" if I got that terminolgy correct.


It's outrageous. He got ejected for an altercation with a non player/coach in the sidelines who got in his face.
I think in the future when something like this happens  
jinkies : 12/4/2023 9:21 am : link
and a home team sideline employee goes rogue and forces a double ejection, the home coach goes too.

That'll stop this from happening.
RE: RE: RE: Thought that Greenlaw was ejected for the body slam  
Essex : 12/4/2023 9:24 am : link
In comment 16312879 jinkies said:
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Maybe I’m wrong but that is the kind of thing that can get you tossed. The security guy shouldn’t have been anywhere near the game for sure.



No he got PF for that. He was ejected for "contacting a non-player" if I got that terminolgy correct.



It's outrageous. He got ejected for an altercation with a non player/coach in the sidelines who got in his face.

and made first contact.

There is a photographer who has lost his credentials for the season for taking a selfie with Hill as part of a TD celebration (Hill decided to pay his salary for the rest of the year). If a guy taunts and strikes a player and is supposed to be "head of security" he should never be on a sideline again.
a few thoughts...  
BillKo : 12/4/2023 9:38 am : link
....49ers LB should have probably been ejected. You can't touch a coach or referee. Needs better restraint there. I also think it was a penalty on the body slam. Again, have to have restraint. The 49ers were lucky they weren't flagged for a late hit on Hurts a few plays prior.

The Eagles security guy should at a minimum be suspended for the rest of the season. Non coaching personnel should have zero interaction with the players during a game. Just for the reason you saw - he instigated a player being ejected.

Another thing I have noticed is the Eagles have a few guys who seem to just run up and down the sideline and root on the players (pumping their fists) almost like cheerleaders (something you'd see in college). Not sure if they are coaches but I find it weird.
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Banks : 12/4/2023 9:39 am : link
He should get fired. He came out of nowhere and shoved a player and then started talking trash to him. Whether Greenlaw intentionally touched him is unknown, but this moron got a starter ejected in a high profile game. He shouldn't be allowed on the field ever again. Not the rest of the season...ever. Put him in the stands or fire him
RE: I hate Philly and the Eagles  
BillKo : 12/4/2023 9:41 am : link
In comment 16312873 bigbluehoya said:
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as much as anyone, but it would be kind of absurd for this guy to lose his job. He's been with the team for 25 years and by every account I've seen is a stand-up guy and well-liked.

He stepped out of line a little bit, and probably shouldn't have been that close to the field of play to begin with.

He was separating the players and shouldn't have put his hand on Greenlaw, and certainly should have kept his mouth shut, but there wasn't anything over-the-top.

I think the league will inflict some pain on the employee and the team to set an example, but I don't think he did anything that warrants throwing the entire book at him.


Nothing over the top? So you're saying non football personnel on game day can interact with the players during the game? LOL

He'll be suspended for the rest of the season, minimum.
Hate me some Eagles and most things related,  
Beezer : 12/4/2023 9:58 am : link
but I thought the whole thing was a big ball of nothing.

It's not like a fan ran out there. This guy was supposed to be there. I saw nothing over the top, from either of them. It's an emotional game ... and that was an emotional moment in a very heated football game.

Much ado ...

If that guy gets canned, then the pussification of America is much worse than the shit-show I already think it's become.

If there was unnecessary roughness called, fine. If not, also fine. Close enough for debate. But either just break up the BS or through flags on both ... have them offset and play on.

The 49ers player being tossed was ridiculous. And just tell the head of security to get his ass back off the line.

Drama drama drama.
RE: .  
Beezer : 12/4/2023 10:01 am : link
In comment 16312907 Banks said:
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He should get fired. He came out of nowhere and shoved a player and then started talking trash to him. Whether Greenlaw intentionally touched him is unknown, but this moron got a starter ejected in a high profile game. He shouldn't be allowed on the field ever again. Not the rest of the season...ever. Put him in the stands or fire him


Gets my nomination for: Best Overreaction 2023.
I want all of the bad thigs for the Eagles.  
bigbluehoya : 12/4/2023 10:04 am : link
Truly.

I just don't see anything that crazy when I watch the video. It's not like he was trying to fight the guy. He said "that's bullshit" to him about the slam tackle, and pushed him away with his left arm, seemingly more to get him away from Smith than in a confrontational manner.

I think if the shoe was on the other foot and it was a Giants personnel member in the exact same incident, we'd probably all agree that there should be a fine and some non-zero level of discipline, but that they suggestion that he should receive some type of permanent ban or firing would be non-sensical.

Maybe I'm wrong about that. I just don't see anything in the footage that sends me into a frenzy.

The real takeaway for me is that the league should probably have some more strict guidelines to keep players away from people who have nothing to do with the game being played between the lines.
Did Shanahan or York have anything to say about it?  
NoPeanutz : 12/4/2023 10:07 am : link
I didn't see anything.
Where the private security of one team gets off putting his hands on an opposing player in the field of play during a game is beyond me, and sounds like a lawsuit.
RE: Did Shanahan or York have anything to say about it?  
Essex : 12/4/2023 10:13 am : link
In comment 16312941 NoPeanutz said:
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I didn't see anything.
Where the private security of one team gets off putting his hands on an opposing player in the field of play during a game is beyond me, and sounds like a lawsuit.

I don't have the quotes but Shanahan was very critical and thought it was ridiculous that a non-football person (player or coach) would get involved with the game. You could tell he was angry as well as he should be. Dom is supposed to be a professional and that was WWE stuff.
RE: I want all of the bad thigs for the Eagles.  
Beezer : 12/4/2023 10:14 am : link
In comment 16312938 bigbluehoya said:
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Truly.

I just don't see anything that crazy when I watch the video. It's not like he was trying to fight the guy. He said "that's bullshit" to him about the slam tackle, and pushed him away with his left arm, seemingly more to get him away from Smith than in a confrontational manner.

I think if the shoe was on the other foot and it was a Giants personnel member in the exact same incident, we'd probably all agree that there should be a fine and some non-zero level of discipline, but that they suggestion that he should receive some type of permanent ban or firing would be non-sensical.

Maybe I'm wrong about that. I just don't see anything in the footage that sends me into a frenzy.

The real takeaway for me is that the league should probably have some more strict guidelines to keep players away from people who have nothing to do with the game being played between the lines.


I couldn't agree more.
RE: Did Shanahan or York have anything to say about it?  
Mad Mike : 12/4/2023 10:14 am : link
In comment 16312941 NoPeanutz said:
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I didn't see anything.
Where the private security of one team gets off putting his hands on an opposing player in the field of play during a game is beyond me, and sounds like a lawsuit.

This is what Shanahan said:
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Oh, yeah. That's why I tried my hardest not to lose my mind. Hopefully I didn't embarrass myself too bad. I didn't get to see it all from where I'm at, but when I start hearing people explain it to me and stuff and I just can't believe someone not involved in a football game can taunt our players like that and put their hands in our guy's face. And from what I was told, Dre did it back to him, and I was told that he kind of mashed him in the face a little bit, so he got ejected.

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RE: Did Shanahan or York have anything to say about it?  
Beezer : 12/4/2023 10:15 am : link
In comment 16312941 NoPeanutz said:
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I didn't see anything.
Where the private security of one team gets off putting his hands on an opposing player in the field of play during a game is beyond me, and sounds like a lawsuit.


Second nominee: Overreaction of 2023

Lawsuit? There's barely contact.

C'mon people. This isn't a good look for you. lol
RE: RE: I want all of the bad thigs for the Eagles.  
Essex : 12/4/2023 10:19 am : link
In comment 16312956 Beezer said:
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Truly.

I just don't see anything that crazy when I watch the video. It's not like he was trying to fight the guy. He said "that's bullshit" to him about the slam tackle, and pushed him away with his left arm, seemingly more to get him away from Smith than in a confrontational manner.

I think if the shoe was on the other foot and it was a Giants personnel member in the exact same incident, we'd probably all agree that there should be a fine and some non-zero level of discipline, but that they suggestion that he should receive some type of permanent ban or firing would be non-sensical.

Maybe I'm wrong about that. I just don't see anything in the footage that sends me into a frenzy.

The real takeaway for me is that the league should probably have some more strict guidelines to keep players away from people who have nothing to do with the game being played between the lines.



I couldn't agree more.


The moral of the story is you can't have untrained mall cops on an NFL sideline where violence occurs.But, I guess because he got Greg Olsen "hard to get" dinner reservations this mall cop is now a hero.

From Dom's background, what qualifies him for security seems to be that he is a rather large man who is loyal. Nothing about his background that I see speaks to the fact that he was a former police officer, FBI agent, etc> You would really think that is the kind of trained professional you want running the security of a billion dollar franchise.
The security guard moved to try to separate players.  
Beezer : 12/4/2023 10:21 am : link
That's what the "putting hands on" was. Then the player kinda swipes at him and grazes his face. Not a punch. And the security guy said some things back as they were at a decent distance.

Big effing deal.
RE: RE: Did Shanahan or York have anything to say about it?  
Essex : 12/4/2023 10:21 am : link
In comment 16312958 Beezer said:
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I didn't see anything.
Where the private security of one team gets off putting his hands on an opposing player in the field of play during a game is beyond me, and sounds like a lawsuit.



Second nominee: Overreaction of 2023

Lawsuit? There's barely contact.

C'mon people. This isn't a good look for you. lol

He shouldn't be sued, but he shouldn't be on an NFL sideline. He literally interfered with the game. You can't have that. If that was the Giants and a security guard, who has no business being involved, pushed my player and my player got ejected from pushing him back I would be angry
RE: RE: RE: I want all of the bad thigs for the Eagles.  
Beezer : 12/4/2023 10:22 am : link
In comment 16312965 Essex said:
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Truly.

I just don't see anything that crazy when I watch the video. It's not like he was trying to fight the guy. He said "that's bullshit" to him about the slam tackle, and pushed him away with his left arm, seemingly more to get him away from Smith than in a confrontational manner.

I think if the shoe was on the other foot and it was a Giants personnel member in the exact same incident, we'd probably all agree that there should be a fine and some non-zero level of discipline, but that they suggestion that he should receive some type of permanent ban or firing would be non-sensical.

Maybe I'm wrong about that. I just don't see anything in the footage that sends me into a frenzy.

The real takeaway for me is that the league should probably have some more strict guidelines to keep players away from people who have nothing to do with the game being played between the lines.



I couldn't agree more.



The moral of the story is you can't have untrained mall cops on an NFL sideline where violence occurs.But, I guess because he got Greg Olsen "hard to get" dinner reservations this mall cop is now a hero.

From Dom's background, what qualifies him for security seems to be that he is a rather large man who is loyal. Nothing about his background that I see speaks to the fact that he was a former police officer, FBI agent, etc> You would really think that is the kind of trained professional you want running the security of a billion dollar franchise.


Well if there's nothing you see, that's it! LOL
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Beezer : 12/4/2023 10:24 am : link
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I didn't see anything.
Where the private security of one team gets off putting his hands on an opposing player in the field of play during a game is beyond me, and sounds like a lawsuit.



Second nominee: Overreaction of 2023

Lawsuit? There's barely contact.

C'mon people. This isn't a good look for you. lol


He shouldn't be sued, but he shouldn't be on an NFL sideline. He literally interfered with the game. You can't have that. If that was the Giants and a security guard, who has no business being involved, pushed my player and my player got ejected from pushing him back I would be angry


He didn't push him back. Watch the video. He took an open-handed swipe at his face and made soft contact.

I'm saying "play on."
RE: The security guard moved to try to separate players.  
terz22 : 12/4/2023 10:24 am : link
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That's what the "putting hands on" was. Then the player kinda swipes at him and grazes his face. Not a punch. And the security guy said some things back as they were at a decent distance.

Big effing deal.


It's a big deal when some guy who probably shouldn't be on the sidelines is right in the middle of the action and potentially effecting the outcome of a game. I'd say that's a big deal.
If Dom was NYG security...  
penkap75 : 12/4/2023 10:24 am : link
All yous meatheads would love him. And if Devito was Philly's backup QB, alls yous guys would hate him. Fuggedaboutit
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Beezer : 12/4/2023 10:27 am : link
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That's what the "putting hands on" was. Then the player kinda swipes at him and grazes his face. Not a punch. And the security guy said some things back as they were at a decent distance.

Big effing deal.



It's a big deal when some guy who probably shouldn't be on the sidelines is right in the middle of the action and potentially effecting the outcome of a game. I'd say that's a big deal.


I'm saying no one should have been booted.

And as it turned out, it didn't have an effect on the game. The team whose player was tossed won by a bunch, on the road.
RE: If Dom was NYG security...  
Beezer : 12/4/2023 10:29 am : link
In comment 16312978 penkap75 said:
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All yous meatheads would love him. And if Devito was Philly's backup QB, alls yous guys would hate him. Fuggedaboutit


You are not wrong, sir.
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terz22 : 12/4/2023 10:31 am : link
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That's what the "putting hands on" was. Then the player kinda swipes at him and grazes his face. Not a punch. And the security guy said some things back as they were at a decent distance.

Big effing deal.



It's a big deal when some guy who probably shouldn't be on the sidelines is right in the middle of the action and potentially effecting the outcome of a game. I'd say that's a big deal.



I'm saying no one should have been booted.

And as it turned out, it didn't have an effect on the game. The team whose player was tossed won by a bunch, on the road.


Would you at least agree that the head of security shouldn't be getting in the middle of things like this guy did? That's all I'm saying.
RE: I don’t see how Fat Dom  
Matt M. : 12/4/2023 10:35 am : link
In comment 16312853 Ben in Tampa said:
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Doesn’t get fired. I think he knew it too afterwards.


Fired? Sadly, this makes him even more popular in Philly. I doubt he gets fired.

But, I do expect the league to fine him or the team and suspend his field credentials.
RE: a few thoughts...  
Matt M. : 12/4/2023 10:37 am : link
In comment 16312905 BillKo said:
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....49ers LB should have probably been ejected. You can't touch a coach or referee. Needs better restraint there. I also think it was a penalty on the body slam. Again, have to have restraint. The 49ers were lucky they weren't flagged for a late hit on Hurts a few plays prior.

The Eagles security guy should at a minimum be suspended for the rest of the season. Non coaching personnel should have zero interaction with the players during a game. Just for the reason you saw - he instigated a player being ejected.

Another thing I have noticed is the Eagles have a few guys who seem to just run up and down the sideline and root on the players (pumping their fists) almost like cheerleaders (something you'd see in college). Not sure if they are coaches but I find it weird.
But, he didn't touch a coach or referee. For that matter, I don't even think the hit should have been a penalty. Was it hard? Yes. Dirty? Maybe. But, I think it was a legal hit.
RE: Hate me some Eagles and most things related,  
Matt M. : 12/4/2023 10:39 am : link
In comment 16312931 Beezer said:
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but I thought the whole thing was a big ball of nothing.

It's not like a fan ran out there. This guy was supposed to be there. I saw nothing over the top, from either of them. It's an emotional game ... and that was an emotional moment in a very heated football game.

Much ado ...

If that guy gets canned, then the pussification of America is much worse than the shit-show I already think it's become.

If there was unnecessary roughness called, fine. If not, also fine. Close enough for debate. But either just break up the BS or through flags on both ... have them offset and play on.

The 49ers player being tossed was ridiculous. And just tell the head of security to get his ass back off the line.

Drama drama drama.
He's not supposed to be interacting with opposing players.
RE: RE: RE: I want all of the bad thigs for the Eagles.  
Matt M. : 12/4/2023 10:41 am : link
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Truly.

I just don't see anything that crazy when I watch the video. It's not like he was trying to fight the guy. He said "that's bullshit" to him about the slam tackle, and pushed him away with his left arm, seemingly more to get him away from Smith than in a confrontational manner.

I think if the shoe was on the other foot and it was a Giants personnel member in the exact same incident, we'd probably all agree that there should be a fine and some non-zero level of discipline, but that they suggestion that he should receive some type of permanent ban or firing would be non-sensical.

Maybe I'm wrong about that. I just don't see anything in the footage that sends me into a frenzy.

The real takeaway for me is that the league should probably have some more strict guidelines to keep players away from people who have nothing to do with the game being played between the lines.



I couldn't agree more.



The moral of the story is you can't have untrained mall cops on an NFL sideline where violence occurs.But, I guess because he got Greg Olsen "hard to get" dinner reservations this mall cop is now a hero.

From Dom's background, what qualifies him for security seems to be that he is a rather large man who is loyal. Nothing about his background that I see speaks to the fact that he was a former police officer, FBI agent, etc> You would really think that is the kind of trained professional you want running the security of a billion dollar franchise.
Why assume untrained? I have no clue about his credentials, but would bet there's a good chance he's a retired cop.
RE: If Dom was NYG security...  
Matt M. : 12/4/2023 10:42 am : link
In comment 16312978 penkap75 said:
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All yous meatheads would love him. And if Devito was Philly's backup QB, alls yous guys would hate him. Fuggedaboutit
I disagree.
I think the appropriate response would have been  
aimrocky : 12/4/2023 10:43 am : link
for Sirianni to be ejected with the Security guard. The head coach should have control of his bench, and this is the only way an ejection matches San Francisco losing a player.

Had the league or officials done this, I think you call it settled and move on.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I want all of the bad thigs for the Eagles.  
Matt M. : 12/4/2023 10:44 am : link
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Truly.

I just don't see anything that crazy when I watch the video. It's not like he was trying to fight the guy. He said "that's bullshit" to him about the slam tackle, and pushed him away with his left arm, seemingly more to get him away from Smith than in a confrontational manner.

I think if the shoe was on the other foot and it was a Giants personnel member in the exact same incident, we'd probably all agree that there should be a fine and some non-zero level of discipline, but that they suggestion that he should receive some type of permanent ban or firing would be non-sensical.

Maybe I'm wrong about that. I just don't see anything in the footage that sends me into a frenzy.

The real takeaway for me is that the league should probably have some more strict guidelines to keep players away from people who have nothing to do with the game being played between the lines.



I couldn't agree more.



The moral of the story is you can't have untrained mall cops on an NFL sideline where violence occurs.But, I guess because he got Greg Olsen "hard to get" dinner reservations this mall cop is now a hero.

From Dom's background, what qualifies him for security seems to be that he is a rather large man who is loyal. Nothing about his background that I see speaks to the fact that he was a former police officer, FBI agent, etc> You would really think that is the kind of trained professional you want running the security of a billion dollar franchise.

Why assume untrained? I have no clue about his credentials, but would bet there's a good chance he's a retired cop.
Yeah...I think I'm wrong on that one. Sorry.
RE: Hate me some Eagles and most things related,  
BH28 : 12/4/2023 10:45 am : link
In comment 16312931 Beezer said:
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but I thought the whole thing was a big ball of nothing.

It's not like a fan ran out there. This guy was supposed to be there. I saw nothing over the top, from either of them. It's an emotional game ... and that was an emotional moment in a very heated football game.

Much ado ...

If that guy gets canned, then the pussification of America is much worse than the shit-show I already think it's become.

If there was unnecessary roughness called, fine. If not, also fine. Close enough for debate. But either just break up the BS or through flags on both ... have them offset and play on.

The 49ers player being tossed was ridiculous. And just tell the head of security to get his ass back off the line.

Drama drama drama.


The 'pussification of america' angle is such a lazy take. Why does the guy belong out there, because he has an eagles hat on?

At best, the dude made an extremely poor judgement call. People lose their jobs for extremely poor judgement calls. Why is the head of security egging on players, shouldn't his job be de-escalation? Do you really want your head of security acting emotionally? I doubt his job description has anything to with player interaction. Any why does he need to be on the sideline there? Doesn't the stadium have it's own security?

Speaking of, if one of those stadium security people in the brightly colored jackets was involved with this, they would be instantly fired. Why is this guy different?

The proportionalism of this is out of control. Some guy who contributes nothing to the game or coaching staff can get a player thrown out.

I wouldn't be surprised if the eagles held a 'head of security' tryout next week for the honor of trying to get players thrown out every week.

IMO, the NFL is going to come down on this hard or make the penalties much more severe.
Greenlaw's shot to Dom's schnoz  
Lurts : 12/4/2023 10:47 am : link
that ended up looking like the prank where you "steal" a little kid's nose, placing your thumb between the first two fingers, was impressively precise.
RE: I suggested last night  
Gatorade Dunk : 12/4/2023 10:49 am : link
In comment 16312786 section125 said:
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that the NFL fines Fat Dom $25G and the Eagles $100G. Greenlaw is getting a double whammy for the hit and then for sticking his hand in fatso's face. Probably near $50G combined. Fat Dom should probably be told he cannot be on the field for the rest of the season during a game.

After the game, one of the sports reporters suggested that Dom and the Eagles likely get hit hard for this incident. No non-football people should be that close to the sideline anyway.

The NFL just banned some kid for the rest of the season (and indefinitely beyond), who the league had hired to do social media content capture, because he accidentally stepped onto the end line when Tyreek Hill started celebrating a TD. The kid caused no harm, didn't interfere with any players against their will, he honestly just stepped onto the end line. Hill did grab the kid's phone and used it in his celebration, which you know the NFL hates, but that wasn't even the kid's doing.

Meanwhile, this phucking slob in Philly will get a slap on the wrist. He should be banned from all NFL stadiums indefinitely.
RE: RE: I suggested last night  
Matt M. : 12/4/2023 10:53 am : link
In comment 16313026 Gatorade Dunk said:
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that the NFL fines Fat Dom $25G and the Eagles $100G. Greenlaw is getting a double whammy for the hit and then for sticking his hand in fatso's face. Probably near $50G combined. Fat Dom should probably be told he cannot be on the field for the rest of the season during a game.

After the game, one of the sports reporters suggested that Dom and the Eagles likely get hit hard for this incident. No non-football people should be that close to the sideline anyway.


The NFL just banned some kid for the rest of the season (and indefinitely beyond), who the league had hired to do social media content capture, because he accidentally stepped onto the end line when Tyreek Hill started celebrating a TD. The kid caused no harm, didn't interfere with any players against their will, he honestly just stepped onto the end line. Hill did grab the kid's phone and used it in his celebration, which you know the NFL hates, but that wasn't even the kid's doing.

Meanwhile, this phucking slob in Philly will get a slap on the wrist. He should be banned from all NFL stadiums indefinitely.
I doin't think it really matters, but this isn't "some kid". He has a personal and professional relationship with Hill, among other players. He turned his side work with players into an actual job with the NFL.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I want all of the bad thigs for the Eagles.  
Essex : 12/4/2023 10:57 am : link
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Truly.

I just don't see anything that crazy when I watch the video. It's not like he was trying to fight the guy. He said "that's bullshit" to him about the slam tackle, and pushed him away with his left arm, seemingly more to get him away from Smith than in a confrontational manner.

I think if the shoe was on the other foot and it was a Giants personnel member in the exact same incident, we'd probably all agree that there should be a fine and some non-zero level of discipline, but that they suggestion that he should receive some type of permanent ban or firing would be non-sensical.

Maybe I'm wrong about that. I just don't see anything in the footage that sends me into a frenzy.

The real takeaway for me is that the league should probably have some more strict guidelines to keep players away from people who have nothing to do with the game being played between the lines.



I couldn't agree more.



The moral of the story is you can't have untrained mall cops on an NFL sideline where violence occurs.But, I guess because he got Greg Olsen "hard to get" dinner reservations this mall cop is now a hero.

From Dom's background, what qualifies him for security seems to be that he is a rather large man who is loyal. Nothing about his background that I see speaks to the fact that he was a former police officer, FBI agent, etc> You would really think that is the kind of trained professional you want running the security of a billion dollar franchise.

Why assume untrained? I have no clue about his credentials, but would bet there's a good chance he's a retired cop.

Yeah...I think I'm wrong on that one. Sorry.

WHy would anyone bet he is a former cop. He looks like he is in his 40s and has worked for the Eagles since 1999. Nothing in his Eagle's bio has anything to do with being a cop. They hired a lackey mall cop to be their chief of security and got that type of service. That home fans would love the guy for starting in with an opposing player is besides the point. Nor should the guy go to jail or anything like that. What he did was extremely unprofessional and their should be a consequence (and some review why he was even that close to the sideline to involve himself in the game).
RE: Greenlaw's shot to Dom's schnoz  
Gfan in PA : 12/4/2023 11:01 am : link
In comment 16313022 Lurts said:
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that ended up looking like the prank where you "steal" a little kid's nose, placing your thumb between the first two fingers, was impressively precise.


After seeing the replay, I actually think Greenlaw was pointing at the Eagle player (Smith?) and Dom kinda walked into it. If you watch it all play out SF player keeps pointing at Smith. Don't even think it was a shot at Dom.
RE: RE: Greenlaw's shot to Dom's schnoz  
Gfan in PA : 12/4/2023 11:04 am : link
That being said, Dom should have been nowhere near the player action. I don't think the ejection was warrented OR fair for SF. As mentioned above somewhere, I think Siriani should have gone instead. F the Eagles!!
RE: The security guard moved to try to separate players.  
BillKo : 12/4/2023 11:09 am : link
In comment 16312969 Beezer said:
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That's what the "putting hands on" was. Then the player kinda swipes at him and grazes his face. Not a punch. And the security guy said some things back as they were at a decent distance.

Big effing deal.


He should not be the person separating players, don't you get that? lol
RE: RE: Greenlaw's shot to Dom's schnoz  
Blueworm : 12/4/2023 11:09 am : link
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that ended up looking like the prank where you "steal" a little kid's nose, placing your thumb between the first two fingers, was impressively precise.



After seeing the replay, I actually think Greenlaw was pointing at the Eagle player (Smith?) and Dom kinda walked into it. If you watch it all play out SF player keeps pointing at Smith. Don't even think it was a shot at Dom.


When you're on the field of play, non-players do not occupy your field of view the same way.
RE: RE: a few thoughts...  
BillKo : 12/4/2023 11:11 am : link
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....49ers LB should have probably been ejected. You can't touch a coach or referee. Needs better restraint there. I also think it was a penalty on the body slam. Again, have to have restraint. The 49ers were lucky they weren't flagged for a late hit on Hurts a few plays prior.

The Eagles security guy should at a minimum be suspended for the rest of the season. Non coaching personnel should have zero interaction with the players during a game. Just for the reason you saw - he instigated a player being ejected.

Another thing I have noticed is the Eagles have a few guys who seem to just run up and down the sideline and root on the players (pumping their fists) almost like cheerleaders (something you'd see in college). Not sure if they are coaches but I find it weird.

But, he didn't touch a coach or referee. For that matter, I don't even think the hit should have been a penalty. Was it hard? Yes. Dirty? Maybe. But, I think it was a legal hit.


Let me clarify - referee, coach, or other people on the sideline.

And if you think it was potentially a dirty hit, then the flag shouldn't be a surprise.

Players know not to slam players to the ground, or you could be penalized.
The Eagles can't have their Philly randos touching players  
jinkies : 12/4/2023 11:23 am : link
It's really as simple as that.
RE: Hate me some Eagles and most things related,  
LauderdaleMatty : 12/4/2023 12:27 pm : link
In comment 16312931 Beezer said:
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but I thought the whole thing was a big ball of nothing.

It's not like a fan ran out there. This guy was supposed to be there. I saw nothing over the top, from either of them. It's an emotional game ... and that was an emotional moment in a very heated football game.

Much ado ...

If that guy gets canned, then the pussification of America is much worse than the shit-show I already think it's become.

If there was unnecessary roughness called, fine. If not, also fine. Close enough for debate. But either just break up the BS or through flags on both ... have them offset and play on.

The 49ers player being tossed was ridiculous. And just tell the head of security to get his ass back off the line.

Drama drama drama.


Relax. The USA has a shit ton of problems. This fat ass getting fired wouldn't be the end of our republic. I dont think he should be fired. That's too much But his security job doesn't take him ANYWHERE near the field. And he certainly shouldn't be touching a player. He's not a bouncer. And you can bet there rules about where he can and can't be. Just like other employees.
RE: RE: Hate me some Eagles and most things related,  
jinkies : 12/4/2023 12:31 pm : link
In comment 16313136 LauderdaleMatty said:
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but I thought the whole thing was a big ball of nothing.

It's not like a fan ran out there. This guy was supposed to be there. I saw nothing over the top, from either of them. It's an emotional game ... and that was an emotional moment in a very heated football game.

Much ado ...

If that guy gets canned, then the pussification of America is much worse than the shit-show I already think it's become.

If there was unnecessary roughness called, fine. If not, also fine. Close enough for debate. But either just break up the BS or through flags on both ... have them offset and play on.

The 49ers player being tossed was ridiculous. And just tell the head of security to get his ass back off the line.

Drama drama drama.



Relax. The USA has a shit ton of problems. This fat ass getting fired wouldn't be the end of our republic. I dont think he should be fired. That's too much But his security job doesn't take him ANYWHERE near the field. And he certainly shouldn't be touching a player. He's not a bouncer. And you can bet there rules about where he can and can't be. Just like other employees.


Agreed. I'll repeat. If an employee like this does something that warrants an ejection and an ejection of a player on the other team, the home team coach goes too. That will take care of this.

Imagine if Sirriani got tossed for Fat Dom's antics. The Eagles would shut that shit down.
RE: The Eagles can't have their Philly randos touching players  
NoPeanutz : 12/4/2023 12:38 pm : link
In comment 16313076 jinkies said:
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It's really as simple as that.

+1
The Giants  
Bubba : 12/4/2023 12:55 pm : link
security guy is Mike Murphy and has been a fixture on the Giants sidelines for decades. However I can't remember ever seeing him interacting with opposing players or being that close to the field. I'm sure there are rules governing this.
The "pussification" of America?  
Mike from Ohio : 12/4/2023 1:06 pm : link
I doubt that phrase has ever been used by anyone other than a keyboard warrior. This is the "dumbification" of America.

You have a point of view. Everyone with a different point of view is not a pussy.
As a hypothetical, what if Fat Dom was an actual coach  
jinkies : 12/4/2023 1:13 pm : link
does it make a difference?

I say yes, because as a coach you are part of the game. It would still be unfortunate to have the ejections. What makes this bizarre and unacceptable is that Dom isn't part of the game. NFL needs to clarify what happens when a person who works for the team but who is not part of the game, inserts himself into the game.
Its not like it was a  
Bubba : 12/4/2023 1:15 pm : link
Woody Hayes moment. But I feel Dom should be disciplined some how.
RE: The Giants  
RDJR : 12/4/2023 1:55 pm : link
In comment 16313160 Bubba said:
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security guy is Mike Murphy and has been a fixture on the Giants sidelines for decades. However I can't remember ever seeing him interacting with opposing players or being that close to the field. I'm sure there are rules governing this.


I believe Murphy retired.
RE: RE: The Giants  
SomeFan : 12/4/2023 2:43 pm : link
In comment 16313230 RDJR said:
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security guy is Mike Murphy and has been a fixture on the Giants sidelines for decades. However I can't remember ever seeing him interacting with opposing players or being that close to the field. I'm sure there are rules governing this.



I believe Murphy retired.
Yes, I have not seen him; there is another guy that walks off with the head coach at least this year and last year but it may be like 3 - 4 seasons.
RE: Hate me some Eagles and most things related,  
SomeFan : 12/4/2023 2:44 pm : link
In comment 16312931 Beezer said:
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but I thought the whole thing was a big ball of nothing.

It's not like a fan ran out there. This guy was supposed to be there. I saw nothing over the top, from either of them. It's an emotional game ... and that was an emotional moment in a very heated football game.

Much ado ...

If that guy gets canned, then the pussification of America is much worse than the shit-show I already think it's become.

If there was unnecessary roughness called, fine. If not, also fine. Close enough for debate. But either just break up the BS or through flags on both ... have them offset and play on.

The 49ers player being tossed was ridiculous. And just tell the head of security to get his ass back off the line.

Drama drama drama.
Agree with all of above. I did not think the play should have been a penalty but can see some refs calling it.
Strikes me as one of those guys  
mfsd : 12/4/2023 2:51 pm : link
who has a lot of people suck up to him because he can control access to the team, and has an overinflated sense of his own importance as a result
RE: RE: I suggested last night  
mitch300 : 12/4/2023 2:59 pm : link
In comment 16313026 Gatorade Dunk said:
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that the NFL fines Fat Dom $25G and the Eagles $100G. Greenlaw is getting a double whammy for the hit and then for sticking his hand in fatso's face. Probably near $50G combined. Fat Dom should probably be told he cannot be on the field for the rest of the season during a game.

After the game, one of the sports reporters suggested that Dom and the Eagles likely get hit hard for this incident. No non-football people should be that close to the sideline anyway.


The NFL just banned some kid for the rest of the season (and indefinitely beyond), who the league had hired to do social media content capture, because he accidentally stepped onto the end line when Tyreek Hill started celebrating a TD. The kid caused no harm, didn't interfere with any players against their will, he honestly just stepped onto the end line. Hill did grab the kid's phone and used it in his celebration, which you know the NFL hates, but that wasn't even the kid's doing.

Meanwhile, this phucking slob in Philly will get a slap on the wrist. He should be banned from all NFL stadiums indefinitely.

That’s the issue that I have. If you are going to suspend someone for this. How, can you not suspend Dom for the rest of the season.
Big Dom  
bc4life : 12/4/2023 4:04 pm : link
hate the eagles. but, he's tight with the players and his emotions got the best of him. Philly needs all the heroes they can get.
RE: Big Dom  
Essex : 12/4/2023 4:05 pm : link
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hate the eagles. but, he's tight with the players and his emotions got the best of him. Philly needs all the heroes they can get.

Let's be fair, their biggest hero is a fictional movie star.
RE: Big Dom  
Chris in Philly : 12/4/2023 7:39 pm : link
In comment 16313392 bc4life said:
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hate the eagles. but, he's tight with the players and his emotions got the best of him. Philly needs all the heroes they can get.


No excuse. Fuck him and his fat neck.
Just ban him from the sidelines  
logman : 12/4/2023 8:30 pm : link
for the rest of the season.

Message sent, no one loses their job, and he can be a martyr for those miserable fucks
When big Dom  
Pete in MD : 12/4/2023 10:03 pm : link
was busy being a cheerleader for the Eagles would have been a good time to take Siriani down.
The head of security has a job and it’s not to root for the home team and inject himself into the on field action. Unprofessional on every level. Go buy a ticket if you want to be a fan.
RE: When big Dom  
Eman11 : 12/5/2023 6:57 am : link
In comment 16313633 Pete in MD said:
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was busy being a cheerleader for the Eagles would have been a good time to take Siriani down.
The head of security has a job and it’s not to root for the home team and inject himself into the on field action. Unprofessional on every level. Go buy a ticket if you want to be a fan.


Agreed. In his post game Shanahan said Siriani was very professional about it, I guess in their post game hand shake. Because he sure as hell must’ve missed him getting on the refs during it and screaming for Greenlaw’s ejection for swinging.

RE: Big Dom  
jestersdead : 12/5/2023 10:31 am : link
In comment 16313392 bc4life said:
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hate the eagles. but, he's tight with the players and his emotions got the best of him. Philly needs all the heroes they can get.

Isn't his job just to stand behind the coach during the game and then find the opposing security guy after the game for the coaches handshake?
He has a job  
Pete in MD : 12/5/2023 12:57 pm : link
description, but I'm quite sure it doesn't include cheering on the sidelines, asking the ref to throw a flag, and telling an opposing player his tackle was "bullshit."
When overgrown toddler…  
Chris in Philly : 12/5/2023 1:30 pm : link
Nick Siriani is embarrassed by your behavior, you may need to reevaluate your choices.
RE: RE: Big Dom  
bwitz : 12/5/2023 2:26 pm : link
In comment 16313533 Chris in Philly said:
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hate the eagles. but, he's tight with the players and his emotions got the best of him. Philly needs all the heroes they can get.



No excuse. Fuck him and his fat neck.


What neck?
RE: He has a job  
Matt M. : 12/5/2023 2:32 pm : link
In comment 16314060 Pete in MD said:
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description, but I'm quite sure it doesn't include cheering on the sidelines, asking the ref to throw a flag, and telling an opposing player his tackle was "bullshit."
Actually, his job description seems to include emotional support and counseling for the players. How he is qualified I don't know.
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