Very simply Dalton Shultz would make an excellent tight end for the Gmen. Personally the Gmen rolled the dice on Waller in trading a bum prospect but it didn’t work out. Best to go get a guy who plays hard and stays on the field. Signing Connor Williams would boost the inside of the Giants o line. Two solid moves to fix some issues with this team IMO.
If anything Texans are likely to maybe add an OL, possibly a big ticket playmaker on offense to boot.
Yes because they can get him on the cheap while he’s recovering.
I was talking about Toney.
If anything Texans are likely to maybe add an OL, possibly a big ticket playmaker on offense to boot.
We’ll see what happens. If he doesn’t get tagged, which I don’t see happening. I mean who was the last tight end tagged ? He would would be a great signing for the Gmen.
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who tore his ACL 9 weeks ago??
Yes because they can get him on the cheap while he’s recovering.
So we pay him for a year to sit out? That’s an awful use of resources for a 6-win team.
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would have been a bum prospect?
I was talking about Toney.
Toney wasn't traded for Waller
I don't see Houston letting him go.
$10 million for 500 yards and one TD ($14 million this coming season). That's worse than the much reviled Brandon Myers did for us. It's more like Will Tye or Larry Donnell.
On the other hand, I guess we would be banking on him staying healthy all year which would probably not be smart.
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would have been a bum prospect?
I was talking about Toney.
Toney wasn't traded for Waller
The third round pick we received in the Toney trade was used in the trade to obtain Waller and his injuries.
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In comment 16403306 KDavies said:
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would have been a bum prospect?
I was talking about Toney.
Toney wasn't traded for Waller
The third round pick we received in the Toney trade was used in the trade to obtain Waller and his injuries.
No shit. Two separate transactions, which should be evaluated as such.
They must, and I can't emphasize that enough, must draft a TE sometime in the third day. Preferably another Y TE.
On the other hand, I guess we would be banking on him staying healthy all year which would probably not be smart.
I like Waller, but he’s been plagued by hamstring injuries 3 years running now. I don’t see that changing for a 32 yr old. The economics alone probably mean he’s a Giant next season, but if possible, I’d move on.
Hoping Waller stays healthy
Hoping Jones stays healthy
Hoping Barkley stays healthy
move on
(and yes I know Neal has been hurt a lot and they are hoping he stays healthy. Somehow, I feel that falls into a different category of hope).
On the other hand, I guess we would be banking on him staying healthy all year which would probably not be smart.
To the OP, I dont think Shultz is a good option for the Giants and I dont think he would want to come here unless we overpay. I'd like to see Bellinger back in the role he had as a rookie to see if he can get back to what we wanted and either draft more of a blocker or sign a cheaper option.
As for Williams, I dont think he is an option. We need to stay away from the injury gambles. They have not been good to us. Get a healthy guy and pay him. If he has an injury then it's just bad luck. If Williams comes in and can't play he's not helping the team improve. You gamble on Williams when you have a guy on the last year of his contract and you sign Williams to a 2 year deal for when he's healthy. Not a luxury we can afford.
Before Williams injury he was one of the best blocking interior lineman in the league. He’s better than anyone this team has had in a decade inside. So I don’t see the issue with wanting a legitimate gamer on this team. Apparently you’re ok with the trash this team has lined up on the trenches the last year. As for Shultz another upgrade that would help the Giants and our QBs instantly over the often injured and inconsistent Walller.
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would have been a bum prospect?
I was talking about Toney.
Toney wasn't traded for Waller
The third round pick we received in the Toney trade was used in the trade to obtain Waller and his injuries.
As the other poster said, you can't conflate the two. We can all say Tony was a bad pick, in hindsight anyway. But using that 3rd round pick we received for Tony on Wallet, I mean Waller, is NOT the same as trading Tony for Waller. We wasted that pick on an injury riddled player (at least so far in his career.) We should have used it on a healthy player coming out of college.
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These threads have a certain auroa of dumb that seem quite familiar...
Before Williams injury he was one of the best blocking interior lineman in the league. He’s better than anyone this team has had in a decade inside. So I don’t see the issue with wanting a legitimate gamer on this team. Apparently you’re ok with the trash this team has lined up on the trenches the last year. As for Shultz another upgrade that would help the Giants and our QBs instantly over the often injured and inconsistent Walller.
How does signing an OL that is likely to miss all of next season going to help the Giants next season?