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Malik Nabers gun charge

Jay7852 : 3/19/2024 12:44 pm
Long time reader and first time poster here.

Not sure if it has already been discussed here or not, if it has I apologize. I was wondering if Malik Nabers gun charge in 2022 is scaring anyone? I know he wasn’t charged with anything but the fact he was hanging out on bourbon street with a gun is a little worrisome. I absolutely love his talent and I’m sure the Giants will be digging into the situation and his character, just thought I would mention it for discussion. .
Modeling his game off of Plaxico  
Mitty81 : 3/19/2024 12:45 pm : link
To be a #1 WR
IDK,  
section125 : 3/19/2024 12:47 pm : link
but I doubt it.
Hmm  
Daniel in Kentucky : 3/19/2024 12:48 pm : link
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Toney  
Jay7852 : 3/19/2024 12:50 pm : link
I remember people dismissing Kadarius Toney’s off field incident at the University of Florida, we all know how he turned out lol
Probably  
Daniel in Kentucky : 3/19/2024 12:51 pm : link
Odunze’s agent - 😆
Well  
allstarjim : 3/19/2024 12:51 pm : link
I live in Florida, so, carrying a gun doesn't hold any stigma with me...that's what many people do here.

I also believe you should generally adhere to the state and local laws of the area, of course. From my reading, you can open carry in Louisiana, but if it's concealed, you need a permit. So that's where he went wrong.

Bad judgement by a 19 year old at the time. For me, it doesn't scare me off of him at all.
Someone posted it a week or two ago  
UConn4523 : 3/19/2024 12:53 pm : link
and had no interest listening to any counter arguments iirc.

Toney’s problem has been that he isn’t good and can’t stay healthy.
Well if he has a rap album out  
56goat : 3/19/2024 12:54 pm : link
and Joe Judge likes him, I would think twice...
RE: Hmm  
Ivan15 : 3/19/2024 12:54 pm : link
In comment 16439013 Daniel in Kentucky said:
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So what? He told you he has been following for a long time and decided he wanted to start posting.
Say what you want about Cardozo Law School  
jeff57 : 3/19/2024 12:55 pm : link
But the gun charge will not stick.
This was posted...  
bw in dc : 3/19/2024 1:01 pm : link
a couple of weeks ago. Case never moved forward because Nabors agreed to give him the gun. It happened in the early part of 2023. So, it is kind of fresh.

This is definitely something to seriously vet for any team looking to invest in Nabors.



RE: Well  
section125 : 3/19/2024 1:04 pm : link
In comment 16439022 allstarjim said:
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I live in Florida, so, carrying a gun doesn't hold any stigma with me...that's what many people do here.

I also believe you should generally adhere to the state and local laws of the area, of course. From my reading, you can open carry in Louisiana, but if it's concealed, you need a permit. So that's where he went wrong.

Bad judgement by a 19 year old at the time. For me, it doesn't scare me off of him at all.


Yeah, I do not think you can carry any hand gun under the age of 21 in any state, legally.
Not worried about it  
gpat1031 : 3/19/2024 1:04 pm : link
He doesn't seem anything like Toney who way too arrogant.
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allstarjim : 3/19/2024 1:06 pm : link
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I live in Florida, so, carrying a gun doesn't hold any stigma with me...that's what many people do here.

I also believe you should generally adhere to the state and local laws of the area, of course. From my reading, you can open carry in Louisiana, but if it's concealed, you need a permit. So that's where he went wrong.

Bad judgement by a 19 year old at the time. For me, it doesn't scare me off of him at all.



Yeah, I do not think you can carry any hand gun under the age of 21 in any state, legally.


Good point.
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Eman11 : 3/19/2024 1:13 pm : link
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I live in Florida, so, carrying a gun doesn't hold any stigma with me...that's what many people do here.

I also believe you should generally adhere to the state and local laws of the area, of course. From my reading, you can open carry in Louisiana, but if it's concealed, you need a permit. So that's where he went wrong.

Bad judgement by a 19 year old at the time. For me, it doesn't scare me off of him at all.



Yeah, I do not think you can carry any hand gun under the age of 21 in any state, legally.


I don’t believe that’s accurate. There are several states where an 18 year old can own a handgun. Alabama , Vermont and Virginia to name a few, and I believe there are several more.

Even crazier, in Texas an 18 year old can buy an AR - 15!
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MOOPS : 3/19/2024 1:14 pm : link
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I live in Florida, so, carrying a gun doesn't hold any stigma with me...that's what many people do here.

I also believe you should generally adhere to the state and local laws of the area, of course. From my reading, you can open carry in Louisiana, but if it's concealed, you need a permit. So that's where he went wrong.

Bad judgement by a 19 year old at the time. For me, it doesn't scare me off of him at all.



Yeah, I do not think you can carry any hand gun under the age of 21 in any state, legally.


I take it you haven't been south of the Mason-Dixon line in a while there, Yank.
If his record is clean otherwise…  
Giant John : 3/19/2024 1:19 pm : link
I’d give the 19 year old a chance.
Take this guy and don't look back!  
Pete from Woodstock : 3/19/2024 1:20 pm : link
Tireless Work Ethic
ROME - ( New Window )
The legal age to open carry in Louisiana  
Big Rick in FL : 3/19/2024 1:20 pm : link
Is 18. So his only issue is that he had it in his pocket and not on his hip.

Also let's not compare Nabers to Kadarius Toney. They couldn't be anymore different when it comes to their personality. Nabers is a good, quite & humble kid. Kadarius Toney is none of the those.
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section125 : 3/19/2024 1:20 pm : link
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I live in Florida, so, carrying a gun doesn't hold any stigma with me...that's what many people do here.

I also believe you should generally adhere to the state and local laws of the area, of course. From my reading, you can open carry in Louisiana, but if it's concealed, you need a permit. So that's where he went wrong.

Bad judgement by a 19 year old at the time. For me, it doesn't scare me off of him at all.



Yeah, I do not think you can carry any hand gun under the age of 21 in any state, legally.



I don’t believe that’s accurate. There are several states where an 18 year old can own a handgun. Alabama , Vermont and Virginia to name a few, and I believe there are several more.

Even crazier, in Texas an 18 year old can buy an AR - 15!


18 y/o can but "long" guns. Standard in all states (with permitting)
It depends on how a team view the top 3 receivers. If they rate 2 of  
Ira : 3/19/2024 1:21 pm : link
them as being very close, a thing like this can get them to choose the safer one.
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Big Rick in FL : 3/19/2024 1:22 pm : link
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Open carry of firearms in Louisiana is permitted without a permit, as long as the user is at least 18 years of age and legally able to possess a firearm under state and federal law.
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section125 : 3/19/2024 1:23 pm : link
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I live in Florida, so, carrying a gun doesn't hold any stigma with me...that's what many people do here.

I also believe you should generally adhere to the state and local laws of the area, of course. From my reading, you can open carry in Louisiana, but if it's concealed, you need a permit. So that's where he went wrong.

Bad judgement by a 19 year old at the time. For me, it doesn't scare me off of him at all.



Yeah, I do not think you can carry any hand gun under the age of 21 in any state, legally.



I take it you haven't been south of the Mason-Dixon line in a while there, Yank.


South Florida and I do have a carry permit. So there is that!
Hey, I can always be wrong, but I am pretty certain need to be 21 to but a handgun (maybe a federal requirement)
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KDavies : 3/19/2024 1:30 pm : link
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I live in Florida, so, carrying a gun doesn't hold any stigma with me...that's what many people do here.

I also believe you should generally adhere to the state and local laws of the area, of course. From my reading, you can open carry in Louisiana, but if it's concealed, you need a permit. So that's where he went wrong.

Bad judgement by a 19 year old at the time. For me, it doesn't scare me off of him at all.



Yeah, I do not think you can carry any hand gun under the age of 21 in any state, legally.



I don’t believe that’s accurate. There are several states where an 18 year old can own a handgun. Alabama , Vermont and Virginia to name a few, and I believe there are several more.

Even crazier, in Texas an 18 year old can buy an AR - 15!


OMG! How scary! 17 year olds can go to war and use big scary guns too!
When the Giants  
HoodieGelo : 3/19/2024 1:35 pm : link
take a chance on these players, they flame out. When the Eagles or any other team do, they're perennial all-pros and humanitarians.

This is a red flag, I will always stand by that and for me, makes him undraftable.
...  
ryanmkeane : 3/19/2024 1:38 pm : link
When does this ever happen and the issue completely goes away and the player becomes a model citizen?

Not saying to take him off the board or anything - but it is a serious issue that should be addressed.
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Eman11 : 3/19/2024 1:40 pm : link
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I live in Florida, so, carrying a gun doesn't hold any stigma with me...that's what many people do here.

I also believe you should generally adhere to the state and local laws of the area, of course. From my reading, you can open carry in Louisiana, but if it's concealed, you need a permit. So that's where he went wrong.

Bad judgement by a 19 year old at the time. For me, it doesn't scare me off of him at all.



Yeah, I do not think you can carry any hand gun under the age of 21 in any state, legally.



I don’t believe that’s accurate. There are several states where an 18 year old can own a handgun. Alabama , Vermont and Virginia to name a few, and I believe there are several more.

Even crazier, in Texas an 18 year old can buy an AR - 15!



OMG! How scary! 17 year olds can go to war and use big scary guns too!


Well different strokes. I’m all for the 2nd amendment and peoples rights to defend themselves, but I don’t think anyone (aside from the military or law enforcement) needs to or should be able to have that type of weapon, especially an 18 year old who isn’t even old enough to drink legally. Something about those two legal/illegal things just seem out of whack to me.

I'm really not seeing an issue  
Big Rick in FL : 3/19/2024 1:41 pm : link
He's legally able to own & carry a gun in Louisiana. His only mistake was having it in his pocket and not having it on his hip.
NFL players and guns  
David B. : 3/19/2024 1:46 pm : link
What could possibly go wrong?
RE: I'm really not seeing an issue  
section125 : 3/19/2024 1:46 pm : link
In comment 16439121 Big Rick in FL said:
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He's legally able to own & carry a gun in Louisiana. His only mistake was having it in his pocket and not having it on his hip.


I was wrong on Louisiana, 18 y/o can own and carry a hand gun.
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KDavies : 3/19/2024 1:57 pm : link
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I live in Florida, so, carrying a gun doesn't hold any stigma with me...that's what many people do here.

I also believe you should generally adhere to the state and local laws of the area, of course. From my reading, you can open carry in Louisiana, but if it's concealed, you need a permit. So that's where he went wrong.

Bad judgement by a 19 year old at the time. For me, it doesn't scare me off of him at all.



Yeah, I do not think you can carry any hand gun under the age of 21 in any state, legally.



I don’t believe that’s accurate. There are several states where an 18 year old can own a handgun. Alabama , Vermont and Virginia to name a few, and I believe there are several more.

Even crazier, in Texas an 18 year old can buy an AR - 15!



OMG! How scary! 17 year olds can go to war and use big scary guns too!



Well different strokes. I’m all for the 2nd amendment and peoples rights to defend themselves, but I don’t think anyone (aside from the military or law enforcement) needs to or should be able to have that type of weapon, especially an 18 year old who isn’t even old enough to drink legally. Something about those two legal/illegal things just seem out of whack to me.


"That type of weapon" - a rifle? I have one. It's a lot safer than a handgun. My wife can barely handle it. My children? No way they can even lift the damn thing, let alone operate it. Handgun? Completely different story.
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section125 : 3/19/2024 2:06 pm : link
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"That type of weapon" - a rifle? I have one. It's a lot safer than a handgun. My wife can barely handle it. My children? No way they can even lift the damn thing, let alone operate it. Handgun? Completely different story.


Not worth the effort explaining. People can believe whatever they want....
I love gun toting Wide Receivers!!!! It builds  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 3/19/2024 2:07 pm : link
Character and sends a message to others that there special and should be treated as such. Kudos to Nabers i say!!! Draft this guy!!!
well let's see we passed on hall of fame players because they smoked  
gtt350 : 3/19/2024 2:08 pm : link
marijuana so this would be akin to murder
I wonder how many of you would have passed on LT  
KDavies : 3/19/2024 2:09 pm : link
back in the day...
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Eman11 : 3/19/2024 2:12 pm : link
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"That type of weapon" - a rifle? I have one. It's a lot safer than a handgun. My wife can barely handle it. My children? No way they can even lift the damn thing, let alone operate it. Handgun? Completely different story.



Not worth the effort explaining. People can believe whatever they want....


I know what type of weapon it is and I don’t want to hijack the thread or turn this political in any way. I respect your right to own it under the law, it’s just for me I don’t see the need for a semi automatic weapon like that being easily available to anyone, or the need for someone to have it. As I said, different strokes.
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Paulie Walnuts : 3/19/2024 2:15 pm : link
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I live in Florida, so, carrying a gun doesn't hold any stigma with me...that's what many people do here.

I also believe you should generally adhere to the state and local laws of the area, of course. From my reading, you can open carry in Louisiana, but if it's concealed, you need a permit. So that's where he went wrong.

Bad judgement by a 19 year old at the time. For me, it doesn't scare me off of him at all.



Yeah, I do not think you can carry any hand gun under the age of 21 in any state, legally.



I don’t believe that’s accurate. There are several states where an 18 year old can own a handgun. Alabama , Vermont and Virginia to name a few, and I believe there are several more.

Even crazier, in Texas an 18 year old can buy an AR - 15!



OMG! How scary! 17 year olds can go to war and use big scary guns too!



Well different strokes. I’m all for the 2nd amendment and peoples rights to defend themselves, but I don’t think anyone (aside from the military or law enforcement) needs to or should be able to have that type of weapon, especially an 18 year old who isn’t even old enough to drink legally. Something about those two legal/illegal things just seem out of whack to me.
what is your mind makes an AR 15 scary? It fires what is basically a varsity round. Color?
RE: Hmm  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/19/2024 2:15 pm : link
In comment 16439013 Daniel in Kentucky said:
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That's some crack detective work.

I guess you skipped the first line of the OP?
Auto correct  
Paulie Walnuts : 3/19/2024 2:16 pm : link
Varmit round
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KDavies : 3/19/2024 2:16 pm : link
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"That type of weapon" - a rifle? I have one. It's a lot safer than a handgun. My wife can barely handle it. My children? No way they can even lift the damn thing, let alone operate it. Handgun? Completely different story.



Not worth the effort explaining. People can believe whatever they want....



I know what type of weapon it is and I don’t want to hijack the thread or turn this political in any way. I respect your right to own it under the law, it’s just for me I don’t see the need for a semi automatic weapon like that being easily available to anyone, or the need for someone to have it. As I said, different strokes.


Then don't own one. Constitutional rights are there for us to exercise... or choose not to.
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upnyg : 3/19/2024 2:47 pm : link
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I live in Florida, so, carrying a gun doesn't hold any stigma with me...that's what many people do here.

I also believe you should generally adhere to the state and local laws of the area, of course. From my reading, you can open carry in Louisiana, but if it's concealed, you need a permit. So that's where he went wrong.

Bad judgement by a 19 year old at the time. For me, it doesn't scare me off of him at all.



Yeah, I do not think you can carry any hand gun under the age of 21 in any state, legally.



I don’t believe that’s accurate. There are several states where an 18 year old can own a handgun. Alabama , Vermont and Virginia to name a few, and I believe there are several more.

Even crazier, in Texas an 18 year old can buy an AR - 15!
There's this thing called the 2nd Amendment.
RE: Probably  
barens : 3/19/2024 2:58 pm : link
In comment 16439021 Daniel in Kentucky said:
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Odunze’s agent - 😆


Or MHJ's
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Milton : 3/19/2024 3:22 pm : link
In comment 16439047 section125 said:
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I do not think you can carry any hand gun under the age of 21 in any state, legally.
Do they say how old the gun was? Maybe his father bought it in 2001 and passed down to him.
Less concerned about the gun  
Sky King : 3/19/2024 3:42 pm : link
And more about him not doing any drills or even getting weighed or measured at the combine.

And his media interview there was underwhelming.

Yellow to red flags for me.
RE: Well  
k2tampa : 3/19/2024 3:45 pm : link
In comment 16439022 allstarjim said:
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I live in Florida, so, carrying a gun doesn't hold any stigma with me...that's what many people do here.

I also believe you should generally adhere to the state and local laws of the area, of course. From my reading, you can open carry in Louisiana, but if it's concealed, you need a permit. So that's where he went wrong.

Bad judgement by a 19 year old at the time. For me, it doesn't scare me off of him at all.


Well, federal law supercedes the state law in Louisiana on purchasing, so you have to be 21 to buy a handgun. So if he bought the gun, that was illegal. However, the state law for possessing allows an 18 year old to have a gun, so even though he couldn't legally buy the gun, apparently he can legal possess it. And as of this month, you don't need a permit to carry a concealed gun in Louisiana.

I think having a 19-year-old carrying a handgun during Mardi Gras in a crowded area full of intoxicated people goes beyond bad judgment. Toney's gun issues were concerning, but he never carried it into a crowd of partiers. He had it because there had been confrontations between his group from the football team and an outside group.

Nabers might have more talent that Harrison, and I love what he can do on the field. I wasn't sold on Odunze during the year, mostly because of the lack of top defenders in that conference. But I'll take Odunze's attitude every day of the week, even if he is a notch below Nabers athletically. That kid seems to have the drive to do whatever it takes to be great, and it doesn't look like he'll be a diva WR. I don't think the team that gets him will ever have to worry about him doing something stupid - on or off the field. That's a quality teams will covet when they are going to give a guy millions.
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k2tampa : 3/19/2024 4:20 pm : link
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He's legally able to own & carry a gun in Louisiana. His only mistake was having it in his pocket and not having it on his hip.



I was wrong on Louisiana, 18 y/o can own and carry a hand gun.


Yes, and they can now conceal carry without a permit. But they can't buy a handgun. The federal law takes precendent over state law on that.
Always Remember  
Dirt1 : 3/19/2024 4:25 pm : link
Doesn't play well in NYC  
Blueworm : 3/19/2024 4:25 pm : link
But it was in a jurisdiction where surrendering the gun meant no charges.

I'm not American, and I can see the difference.
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compton : 3/19/2024 4:41 pm : link
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I live in Florida, so, carrying a gun doesn't hold any stigma with me...that's what many people do here.

I also believe you should generally adhere to the state and local laws of the area, of course. From my reading, you can open carry in Louisiana, but if it's concealed, you need a permit. So that's where he went wrong.

Bad judgement by a 19 year old at the time. For me, it doesn't scare me off of him at all.



Yeah, I do not think you can carry any hand gun under the age of 21 in any state, legally.


You are thinking about AR 15 style rifles. You have to be 21 in all the states to own an AR 15 rifle. Though some states are trying to change that.
RE: I'm really not seeing an issue  
JoeSchoens11 : 3/19/2024 5:25 pm : link
In comment 16439121 Big Rick in FL said:
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He's legally able to own & carry a gun in Louisiana. His only mistake was having it in his pocket and not having it on his hip.
He really is working the Plax vibe! Yes, this needs to be vetted and hopefully by better people than the guys who approved Baker and KT89.

The good thing is that if he’s the only one of the big-3 available then a QB will be there, otherwise Rome/MHJ are options. It’s nice to be one the good end of the talent drop off at pick 6
In what world-  
CRinCA : 3/19/2024 6:26 pm : link
Is an AR-15 round a “varmint round”? JFC
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Fifty Six : 3/19/2024 7:00 pm : link
In comment 16439527 CRinCA said:
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Is an AR-15 round a “varmint round”? JFC


In the real world. AR-15 round is .223 or 5.56. It is literally the same size round as a 22 but in a fancier looking rifle
It’s more than just about the diameter  
CRinCA : 3/19/2024 7:18 pm : link
I will not get into a debate here on BBI of all places, but stopping power, wound size etc. are important distinctions between a military grade 5.56 and a “varmint round”.

Respectfully, I’m out.
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Fifty Six : 3/19/2024 7:29 pm : link
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I will not get into a debate here on BBI of all places, but stopping power, wound size etc. are important distinctions between a military grade 5.56 and a “varmint round”.

Respectfully, I’m out.


This is true, and where I live we have 300 lb varmints that will eat your farm in a weekend
The standard AR-15 fires a .223  
Capt. : 3/20/2024 3:56 am : link
That is a small caliber, similar to a .22 but a much higher powered round. It is generally considered too small for hunting most big game in this country. Excellent for small game and varmints. That being said, an AR-15 is just a well designed and well functioning semi-automatic rifle. They do come in Pink-Camo for those folks that are scared by the "evil" Black ones.
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Fifty Six : 3/20/2024 5:58 am : link
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That is a small caliber, similar to a .22 but a much higher powered round. It is generally considered too small for hunting most big game in this country. Excellent for small game and varmints. That being said, an AR-15 is just a well designed and well functioning semi-automatic rifle. They do come in Pink-Camo for those folks that are scared by the "evil" Black ones.


Yes but without the gun panic, they couldn't use it to destroy another young man's life
John Mara likes "clean" players...  
DefenseWins : 3/20/2024 6:03 am : link
we have seen the Giants pass on talented players in the first round because they have a questionable past.
Bourbon Street is a dangerous place  
Bill in UT : 3/20/2024 12:15 pm : link
Good on the kid for doing his research
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