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Prediction: Giants Draft Nabers - Benson, 1-2. What’s Yours?

Jim in Tampa : 4/16/2024 9:31 am
As much as I’m hoping that the Giants somehow find a way to land Drake Maye, I’m convinced that the Pats will take Maye and the Vikings will trade up to 4 for McCarthy.

If the Giants are frozen out of the top 3 QBs in RD-1, everybody expects them to take a WR, and the WR most often linked to the Giants is Malik Nabers. So that’s not exactly an “out-on-a-limb” prediction for pick 6.

As for pick 47, despite the Giants’ apparent interest in Trey Benson (Top 30 visit) I haven’t seen any mocks where the Giants select him in RD-2. But that is my prediction.

Getting two offensive skill players considered the best (or near the best) at their respective positions in this draft, will somewhat ease the pain of not addressing QB this year. Obviously it’s not the best-case scenario, but drafting two dynamic offensive players would certainly beat trading picks 6, 47 and more picks next year, to draft the wrong QB.

I also think that the Giants will feel some pressure to draft a "star" RB to replace Barkley and it's highly unlikely that Benson or Brooks make it to RD-3.

What is your prediction for the Giants’ picks in rounds 1 and 2?
...  
ryanmkeane : 4/16/2024 9:37 am : link
Maye & Melton
Maye  
logman : 4/16/2024 9:40 am : link
Legette
Rome Odunze...  
KingBlue : 4/16/2024 9:44 am : link
Braden Fiske
Nabers  
Finch : 4/16/2024 9:47 am : link
Melton
Isn’t spending a 2 on a RB just what Schoen is least likely to do  
BillT : 4/16/2024 9:48 am : link
And just what we criticize DG for do
Rome Odunze and Tyler Nubin  
gogiants : 4/16/2024 9:50 am : link
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/16/2024 9:52 am : link
Not sure, but I'm sure whoever we take, there'll be rational & level headed analysis from all BBIers.
RE: Isn’t spending a 2 on a RB just what Schoen is least likely to do  
BillT : 4/16/2024 9:53 am : link
In comment 16470494 BillT said:
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And just what we criticize DG for do

Oooops. doing. Schoen just let a top RB go to move that money elsewhere. And signed a reasonably priced RB to replace him. We have major needs at CB, DT, S, QB, TE, OL. I can’t imagine him spending that high a pick on a RB. Makes no sense.
Giants trade back  
section125 : 4/16/2024 9:54 am : link
with Chicago for #9, #75 and 2025 #2 (Top 4 QBs gone)

Chicago takes Alt

Giants take Penix at #9 and Taliese Fuaga at #47.


RE: Isn’t spending a 2 on a RB just what Schoen is least likely to do  
Jim in Tampa : 4/16/2024 9:55 am : link
In comment 16470494 BillT said:
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And just what we criticize DG for do

The Giants did have Benson in for a Top 30 visit and I've read reports that they like him. Plus I don't think pick 47 is too high for a RB who is considered top 2 at the position.

As for DG... pick 2 overall (in a draft with at least 4 highly-rated QBs) is not the same as pick 47 (with most, if not all of the top-6 QBs gone).
What I think...  
GuzzaBlue : 4/16/2024 9:55 am : link
Nabers at 6 based on what they have valued in receivers so far. I do think they are keyed in on 1 guy to try to get to 3 and that's Maye. Prototype build and arm for a QB at 6'4 230 and athletic. I think he will remind JS and Daboll too much of Josh Allen. Plus those guys don't come around too often. Reminds me a little of when Herbert was being drafted. These are the guys you take a chance on this high in the draft IMO, but probably will have to get to 3 to get him.

If they don't get Maye, I'd prefer Odunze over Nabers at 6. The size/speed combo, but also the elite catch % stats and quickness. Add on a great attitude- to me checks all the boxes for blue chip talent. At 47, I may be in the minority here, but I'm taking a chance on Braden Fiske if he is there. Add to what already is a strength on the DL and give him the opportunity to rotate in or even start next to Dex. The athleticism at that size and his motor/attitude.

Mine 6. Odunze 47. Fiske 3rd. Benson (if available)
RE: Isn’t spending a 2 on a RB just what Schoen is least likely to do  
Strahan91 : 4/16/2024 10:00 am : link
In comment 16470494 BillT said:
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And just what we criticize DG for do

Using the 2nd overall pick and using a 2nd round pick are not even close to the same. We know they really liked James Cook two years ago and considered him in the 2nd even with Barkley still on the team and they clearly value the position to some degree hence trying to extend Barkley previously and tagging him. There's also a big difference between a 21 year old RB without much tread on his tires on a rookie contract and a 27 year old on one of the biggest RB contracts who's had trouble staying on the field.
1 Odunze, 2 Phillips  
Eric on Li : 4/16/2024 10:02 am : link
mike g had phillips rising up almost to the first round, think he fits what both NYG and TEN seemed to target (Mccreary-ish). not as fast as banks but some similarities (length, explosive jumps, competitiveness in man coverage, battle tested vs quality competition).

RE: RE: Isn’t spending a 2 on a RB just what Schoen is least likely to do  
BillT : 4/16/2024 10:02 am : link
In comment 16470515 Strahan91 said:
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And just what we criticize DG for do


Using the 2nd overall pick and using a 2nd round pick are not even close to the same. We know they really liked James Cook two years ago and considered him in the 2nd even with Barkley still on the team and they clearly value the position to some degree hence trying to extend Barkley previously and tagging him. There's also a big difference between a 21 year old RB without much tread on his tires on a rookie contract and a 27 year old on one of the biggest RB contracts who's had trouble staying on the field.

So he “liked” Cook. Did he draft him. My point exactly.
RE: RE: RE: Isn’t spending a 2 on a RB just what Schoen is least likely to do  
Strahan91 : 4/16/2024 10:05 am : link
In comment 16470518 BillT said:
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And just what we criticize DG for do


Using the 2nd overall pick and using a 2nd round pick are not even close to the same. We know they really liked James Cook two years ago and considered him in the 2nd even with Barkley still on the team and they clearly value the position to some degree hence trying to extend Barkley previously and tagging him. There's also a big difference between a 21 year old RB without much tread on his tires on a rookie contract and a 27 year old on one of the biggest RB contracts who's had trouble staying on the field.


So he “liked” Cook. Did he draft him. My point exactly.

The point is that they had Saquon on the team at the time and still considered it. They clearly value the position, I don't know what makes you think they don't
Odunze and Melton  
Andy in Halifax : 4/16/2024 10:10 am : link
Though I could very easily see DT in round 2 as well. But I will guess we get one of those in round 3 (Maason Smith please).
RE: RE: RE: RE: Isn’t spending a 2 on a RB just what Schoen is least likely to do  
BillT : 4/16/2024 10:11 am : link
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And just what we criticize DG for do


Using the 2nd overall pick and using a 2nd round pick are not even close to the same. We know they really liked James Cook two years ago and considered him in the 2nd even with Barkley still on the team and they clearly value the position to some degree hence trying to extend Barkley previously and tagging him. There's also a big difference between a 21 year old RB without much tread on his tires on a rookie contract and a 27 year old on one of the biggest RB contracts who's had trouble staying on the field.


So he “liked” Cook. Did he draft him. My point exactly.


The point is that they had Saquon on the team at the time and still considered it. They clearly value the position, I don't know what makes you think they don't

And what they did this offseason doesn’t give you any hints?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Isn’t spending a 2 on a RB just what Schoen is least likely to do  
Strahan91 : 4/16/2024 10:16 am : link
In comment 16470527 BillT said:
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hey did this offseason doesn’t give you any hints?

Your entire argument is that they let Barkley walk ignoring the fact that they've tried to extend him numerous times and franchise tagged him a year ago despite an extensive injury history at the precipice of the age running backs start to decline.
As much as I don't want to spend a 2nd round pick on Benson...  
Vin_Cuccs : 4/16/2024 10:19 am : link
...I really like him as a player.

If they still had two 2nd round picks, Benson would be a great addition, but I just don't think they have the luxury of drafting a RB in the 2nd round.
1. Malik Nebors  
Ira : 4/16/2024 10:19 am : link
2. Ja’Tavion Sanders
Would suck..  
IchabodGiant : 4/16/2024 10:19 am : link
to lose out on the top 4 QBs. But if that happens, I could live with this result.
1.Odunze 2.Orhorhoro  
Tom in NY : 4/16/2024 10:21 am : link
I believe the Giants want Maye, but the asking price will be too high to move up.

Giants go about the business of building out the roster - BPA in the 1st and best DT available in the 2nd.
RE: Odunze and Melton  
Eric on Li : 4/16/2024 10:22 am : link
In comment 16470526 Andy in Halifax said:
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Though I could very easily see DT in round 2 as well. But I will guess we get one of those in round 3 (Maason Smith please).


pretty much exactly how i see it. swap in dorlus/jenkins/hall/etc in the day 2 mix.

could see the right RB OL or TE in day 2 also, but probably not at 47.
Maye  
ajr2456 : 4/16/2024 10:23 am : link
Leggete
Maye in a trade up  
JT039 : 4/16/2024 10:29 am : link
No second round pick
How about this . . .  
3000_MilesToMeadowlands : 4/16/2024 10:32 am : link
If McCarthy is sitting there at 6 . . . they don't take him (better chance a QB makes it to Round2 if McCarthy to Minn at 11). "Just not that into him" and too high.

They take Nabors/Odunze at 6

Work a trade for a QB late 1st early 2nd Nix/Penix
Right now  
Sammo85 : 4/16/2024 10:32 am : link
Maye-QB, Worthy-WR (assumes we trade 2025 #1 to move up).

Also have a feel Theo Johnson is in play somewhere in Round 3-4 at TE - Giants have taken a hard long look at him and Sinnott. I think they're feeling a TE as much as a RB in one of those Rounds 3,4,5.
Odunze at 6  
Dankbeerman : 4/16/2024 10:34 am : link
Trade 47 with Pit for 51 and 119
51 - Rakestraw

RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Isn’t spending a 2 on a RB just what Schoen is least likely to do  
BillT : 4/16/2024 10:40 am : link
In comment 16470533 Strahan91 said:
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hey did this offseason doesn’t give you any hints?


Your entire argument is that they let Barkley walk ignoring the fact that they've tried to extend him numerous times and franchise tagged him a year ago despite an extensive injury history at the precipice of the age running backs start to decline.

And we all know that wasn’t really Schoen’s preference. He played hardball with him on the contract last offseason. And when he got free rein Barkley was gone, I believe, without a counteroffer.
JJM  
BleedBlue46 : 4/16/2024 10:41 am : link
Melton, happy belated birthday to Max Melton (his bday was yesterday)
Picks  
armstead98 : 4/16/2024 10:50 am : link
1. Rome Odunze
2. Braden Fiske
I think the OP nailed it in his prediction.  
ThomasG : 4/16/2024 10:58 am : link
Nabers-Benson. Schoen can’t reach his QB so he puts WR1 and RB1 on the roster.

Jim in Tampa is a wise man.
I have no clue who they ll pick. But it wouldn't surprise me if  
Blue21 : 4/16/2024 11:15 am : link
Jim is right. They want to boost this offense and can't get the QB they want then maybe they get two of the best playmakers at their position who can boost this offense day 1 and have new franchise players and faces.
Nabers or Odunze  
The Mike : 4/16/2024 11:17 am : link
I am truthfully indifferent to the top three WRs - would trust Schoen/Daboll on their preference. And then Penix in a trade up (would likely lose 47, 70 and a mid-round 2025 pick).
McCarthy-Benson-Best WR available  
Chris684 : 4/16/2024 11:22 am : link
Defense day 3.

That's my dream.
OK  
upnyg : 4/16/2024 11:24 am : link
I'd be fine with that.
Would prefer to see a QB in there and a WR...but I think that would be a decent backup, or a trade back to pick up a #1 or #2 for 2025.
JJM at 8  
Jaenyg : 4/16/2024 11:25 am : link
Melton at 43
Benson at 47
anyone but JJ,BPA  
AROCK1000 : 4/16/2024 11:25 am : link
Schoen needs to let this draft come to him.
Trade back 2x in the first would be my favorite move.
Load up on top 50 talent in the first 2 or 3 rounds
RE: Nabers or Odunze  
Jaenyg : 4/16/2024 11:29 am : link
In comment 16470605 The Mike said:
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I am truthfully indifferent to the top three WRs - would trust Schoen/Daboll on their preference. And then Penix in a trade up (would likely lose 47, 70 and a mid-round 2025 pick).


If they take the WR, and then take no QB at all, and we find out later they unsuccessfully tried to trade up, how would you feel about that?
Nabers at pick 6  
ZogZerg : 4/16/2024 11:31 am : link
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Williams, Daniels and Maye  
Biteymax22 : 4/16/2024 11:35 am : link
Go 1/2/3 MaCarthy falls to 6. We take him and an OL who falls in the 2nd. Going with Morgan who we had for a visit.
Plan A:  
Gruber : 4/16/2024 11:36 am : link
A quarterback at #6, namely Drake Maye. I don't know if they're sold on JJ McCarthy or not. Maye has a powerful arm, but he also makes some dumb throws.

Plan B:
quarterback is not there, and the price for moving up is too prohibitive.
Then they take Odunze or Nabers, I don't think they lose sleep over which one is still available at #6.

Plan C:
Schoen trades down if for some strange reason none of the top three wide receivers are there at #6 and the quarterback(s) they like have gone.
JJ...  
Brown_Hornet : 4/16/2024 11:38 am : link
...Ruke
Odunze and Nix  
PatersonPlank : 4/16/2024 11:41 am : link
I'd settle for Penix though
RE: RE: Nabers or Odunze  
The Mike : 4/16/2024 11:51 am : link
In comment 16470621 Jaenyg said:
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I am truthfully indifferent to the top three WRs - would trust Schoen/Daboll on their preference. And then Penix in a trade up (would likely lose 47, 70 and a mid-round 2025 pick).



If they take the WR, and then take no QB at all, and we find out later they unsuccessfully tried to trade up, how would you feel about that?


I would be disappointed, but it would not be catastrophic. This team is years away from competing for a championship and even if they get a quarterback this year, 5-7 wins is probably the ceiling for this team in 2024. Let's face it, it has taken the Bills and Bengals six and five years just to be in a position to compete for championships and they have had two of the top five NFL franchise quarterbacks throughout!

Cutting DJ as soon as he is healthy and getting a developmental guy like Milton later in the draft would be fine for me. I think Daboll can work his magic with Lock - look at what he did with Allen and DJ! Cutlets and Milton would be an ok quarterback room for this year. And then get your quarterback next year. But you can't force picks or reach for need. Then you end up with a DJ and another five year colossal waste of time just to end up right back where we are now.
RE: anyone but JJ,BPA  
BleedBlue46 : 4/16/2024 11:52 am : link
In comment 16470617 AROCK1000 said:
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Schoen needs to let this draft come to him.
Trade back 2x in the first would be my favorite move.
Load up on top 50 talent in the first 2 or 3 rounds


It's your prediction, not your wishes. I messed that up too.

I guess my prediction would be Odunze and Melton or Maye and Melton (maybe just Maye with no pick 47 due to tradeup).
Penix  
Milton : 4/16/2024 11:53 am : link
Don't know how, don't know when, but my wish, I mean my prediction is that the Giants draft Penix at some point.
I think its QB in round 1 and WR in round 2  
Rjanyg : 4/16/2024 11:56 am : link
1. Maye with a move up to 4
2. Coleman at 47

NYG trades 6, 70 and 2025 2nd round pick to AZ.

I think Kraft will push for JJ McCarthy at 3. Maye will be sitting there and NYG makes to move. I believe Maye is the desired pick. I like JJ but I prefer Maye and this makes me very happy!!

Coleman is getting overlooked because of his slow 40 time at the combine but I think he is a freak and the perfect X. We also need that red zone target. Great value at 47.
I'd  
AcidTest : 4/16/2024 12:01 pm : link
probably take Odunze and Orhorhoro, but think it will be Maye with a trade up to #4 and Benson.
RE: Rome Odunze...  
bluefin : 4/16/2024 12:02 pm : link
In comment 16470488 KingBlue said:
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Braden Fiske

+1
Agree and love Jim's prediction,  
barens : 4/16/2024 12:15 pm : link
though I'd be just as happy with Odunze. I think drafting one of the top RB's in round 2 is an underrated idea, and one that has my full support.
RE: Maye  
56goat : 4/16/2024 12:53 pm : link
In comment 16470483 logman said:
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Legette


+1
RE: Isn’t spending a 2 on a RB just what Schoen is least likely to do  
4xchamps : 4/16/2024 1:00 pm : link
In comment 16470494 BillT said:
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And just what we criticize DG for do


JS doesn't care what we think, thankfully.
Caleb Williams  
GrMtWoods : 4/16/2024 1:03 pm : link
And Marvin Harrison. Sometimes the ball just bounces your way.
RE: Odunze and Nix  
4xchamps : 4/16/2024 1:03 pm : link
In comment 16470641 PatersonPlank said:
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I'd settle for Penix though


I could easily be wrong but Nix seems like a wasted pick, with zero chance of becoming a star NFL QB, but who knows?
RE: RE: RE: Nabers or Odunze  
Jim in Tampa : 4/16/2024 1:19 pm : link
In comment 16470655 The Mike said:
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I am truthfully indifferent to the top three WRs - would trust Schoen/Daboll on their preference. And then Penix in a trade up (would likely lose 47, 70 and a mid-round 2025 pick).



If they take the WR, and then take no QB at all, and we find out later they unsuccessfully tried to trade up, how would you feel about that?



I would be disappointed, but it would not be catastrophic. This team is years away from competing for a championship and even if they get a quarterback this year, 5-7 wins is probably the ceiling for this team in 2024. Let's face it, it has taken the Bills and Bengals six and five years just to be in a position to compete for championships and they have had two of the top five NFL franchise quarterbacks throughout!

Cutting DJ as soon as he is healthy and getting a developmental guy like Milton later in the draft would be fine for me. I think Daboll can work his magic with Lock - look at what he did with Allen and DJ! Cutlets and Milton would be an ok quarterback room for this year. And then get your quarterback next year. But you can't force picks or reach for need. Then you end up with a DJ and another five year colossal waste of time just to end up right back where we are now.

Actually, Joe Burrow took the Bengals to the Super Bowl in his 2nd season. Not that a Giants' QB would do the same. Just saying.
WR1  
viggie : 4/16/2024 1:23 pm : link
Odunze
2nd Benson
3rd Rattler
RE: RE: Odunze and Nix  
section125 : 4/16/2024 1:28 pm : link
In comment 16470763 4xchamps said:
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I'd settle for Penix though



I could easily be wrong but Nix seems like a wasted pick, with zero chance of becoming a star NFL QB, but who knows?


And just how did you come to that conclusion?
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The Mike : 4/16/2024 1:37 pm : link
In comment 16470795 Jim in Tampa said:
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I am truthfully indifferent to the top three WRs - would trust Schoen/Daboll on their preference. And then Penix in a trade up (would likely lose 47, 70 and a mid-round 2025 pick).



If they take the WR, and then take no QB at all, and we find out later they unsuccessfully tried to trade up, how would you feel about that?



I would be disappointed, but it would not be catastrophic. This team is years away from competing for a championship and even if they get a quarterback this year, 5-7 wins is probably the ceiling for this team in 2024. Let's face it, it has taken the Bills and Bengals six and five years just to be in a position to compete for championships and they have had two of the top five NFL franchise quarterbacks throughout!

Cutting DJ as soon as he is healthy and getting a developmental guy like Milton later in the draft would be fine for me. I think Daboll can work his magic with Lock - look at what he did with Allen and DJ! Cutlets and Milton would be an ok quarterback room for this year. And then get your quarterback next year. But you can't force picks or reach for need. Then you end up with a DJ and another five year colossal waste of time just to end up right back where we are now.


Actually, Joe Burrow took the Bengals to the Super Bowl in his 2nd season. Not that a Giants' QB would do the same. Just saying.


Yes, they have been in a position to "compete for championships" which is what I said. The inference was that they haven't won.
The Mike  
Jim in Tampa : 4/16/2024 1:50 pm : link
Not that it's a big deal, but that's not what you said in your previous post.

You said, "it has taken the Bills and Bengals six and five years just to be in a position to compete for championships and they have had two of the top five NFL franchise quarterbacks throughout!"

You didn't say those two teams HAVE been in position to compete for championships for the last 5/6 years. You said that it took six and five years just to do so, even though they had top 5 QBs.

Again, the Bengals went to the Super Bowl in Burrow's 2nd season. Not sure how that can be construed as taking 5 years "just to compete for championships" given that super bowl participants are, by definition, competing for a championship.
I’m not really into Pratt, the QB from Tulane.  
cosmicj : 4/16/2024 1:51 pm : link
He really, really reminds me of DJ. But if he’s there in the 4th, they should pick him. The physical ability is there. Who knows? He might be great.
My guess  
US1 Giants : 4/16/2024 1:56 pm : link
Odunze or Nabers in round 1. I'll guess Nabers.

A big CB in round 2. T.J. Tampa

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