because if it's not, that likely means it wasn't a simple illness and it's concussion related...and we won't see him again these playoffs, if ever.
If not Chytil...it's a tough call. Brodzinski is a better hockey player than Remoe and will play a few more minutes than Rempe. But the Rangers record with Rempe is incredible. So there has to be something to it. And you know the Canes don't want him in the lineup, as they are then worried about him rocking them. But the refs also watch him like a hawk. So him taking penalties, as well as his defensive lapses, could be devasting in a huge game like this.
losing a game is probably not the worst thing. Heading in to the Conference finals against FLA or BOS undefeated and having faced no adversity puts additional pressure on the team they don't need.
I’m thinking that they didn’t want to play either Chytll or Rempe on the road because they didn’t want Carolina dictating the matchups with the home team having the last substitution. At home, either make more sense than Bredinski. But, Chytll is a much better player than either of these guys. I didn’t see him taking any hits to the head so I’m guessing (and hoping) that he was a healthy scratch and he should be in the lineup,tonight.
The fact that Chytil is considered to be an option
is encouraging for me, as if it was related to the concussion issues, I don't think the quote from Laviolette would be that he's feeling better and may play game 5. I really hope he plays, he makes this the best forward group of the teams left, in my opinion.
I was busy and couldn't comment on game 4, it was disappointing to lose, but the Rangers played their worst period of the playoffs, by far, and still found a way to be 3-3 with 3+ minutes to play, despite only having 1 PP the whole game. I think tonight they jump out to an early lead, lock it down, and deliver the death blow in the third period in a 3-1 win. I'm looking to Igor to really shut the door tonight, and maybe even grab that elusive first career playoff shutout.
losing a game is probably not the worst thing. Heading in to the Conference finals against FLA or BOS undefeated and having faced no adversity puts additional pressure on the team they don't need.
NYR end this tonight. Easy win.
This is a series I felt very confident about, but never would have thought they would have taken a 3-0 lead. A sweep would have been awesome, but it's good to get a clunker (really just one clunker of a period) out of the way and still have a commanding series lead. With Boston getting absolutely boned last night (but also getting badly outplayed most of the game), pressure is on the Rangers to close this out tonight so Florida is not going in to the ECF better rested. Rangers are a team that plays their best when they are rested.
but what the fuck is up with the cuckold fans that wear WHALERS jerseys to Carolina home games? Have people lost their fucking minds? You don't see any Browns fans wearing their faded and fat wrinkled Bernie Kosar Jerseys at Ravens home games do you? Of course not.
Who the fuck does that? And the Whaler jerseys look NEW which is even more fucking ridiculous. You're going to PAY money to that franchise and celebrate ripping a team out of Hartford. Fucking Brilliant. You fucking sad sacked shit fan base.
but what the fuck is up with the cuckold fans that wear WHALERS jerseys to Carolina home games? Have people lost their fucking minds? You don't see any Browns fans wearing their faded and fat wrinkled Bernie Kosar Jerseys at Ravens home games do you? Of course not.
Who the fuck does that? And the Whaler jerseys look NEW which is even more fucking ridiculous. You're going to PAY money to that franchise and celebrate ripping a team out of Hartford. Fucking Brilliant. You fucking sad sacked shit fan base.
So you woke up and chose violence this morning? lol
but what the fuck is up with the cuckold fans that wear WHALERS jerseys to Carolina home games? Have people lost their fucking minds? You don't see any Browns fans wearing their faded and fat wrinkled Bernie Kosar Jerseys at Ravens home games do you? Of course not.
Who the fuck does that? And the Whaler jerseys look NEW which is even more fucking ridiculous. You're going to PAY money to that franchise and celebrate ripping a team out of Hartford. Fucking Brilliant. You fucking sad sacked shit fan base.
So you woke up and chose violence this morning? lol
MSG teams have me cranky this morning but all in all I can't be disappointed with either team. Rangers will be fine.
but what the fuck is up with the cuckold fans that wear WHALERS jerseys to Carolina home games? Have people lost their fucking minds? You don't see any Browns fans wearing their faded and fat wrinkled Bernie Kosar Jerseys at Ravens home games do you? Of course not.
Who the fuck does that? And the Whaler jerseys look NEW which is even more fucking ridiculous. You're going to PAY money to that franchise and celebrate ripping a team out of Hartford. Fucking Brilliant. You fucking sad sacked shit fan base.
They have a store in PNC Arena that strictly sells Whalers gear.
Interestingly, Wheeler was a full participant (no non-contact jersey). Nice story, and seems like a great dude, but my standing preference will be that he remains in suit.
Carolina is a good team. The Rangers have a higher ceiling. I think Carolina played as well as they're capable of the other night - I don't feel like we've seen that from the Rangers yet. I also think Igor looking mortal for 20 minutes gave Carolina hope. With all that, it was what, 4-1 on hitting iron? Every game could have gone either way but the Rangers are just more dangerous and I think they know it; ultimately that wins out unless the hockey gods decide to fuck with them.
Nothing is over till it's over, and it would be unnecessarily nerve-wracking to drop tonight's game, but I feel good about this team. They know how to win.
Yup, great news! As it can't be concussion related then. Wheeler also a full go with no more non-practice jersey. Good to have options. NHL playoffs can often be a war of attrition.
If Chytil isn't ready tonight, get Rempe back in there to crush their D.
you don't want a game 6 at a confident CAR home ice.
100% agree. Can't let them go back to Carolina for Game 6. Must finish them off tonight. Although, it is nice to have a Game 7 in NY in your pocket in case you need it. That is where winning the President's Trophy really pays off.
with Brodz skating with the fourth line. Rempe's skating with Edstrom and Wheeler, and Chytil sounds like only a semi-participant (still seems like a good sign that he's skating).
with Brodz skating with the fourth line. Rempe's skating with Edstrom and Wheeler, and Chytil sounds like only a semi-participant (still seems like a good sign that he's skating).
Saw that too. Apparently Lavi is scared to get Rempe back in there, due to his possibility of getting called for penalties with refs focused on him. Not to mention that defensive lapse in his last game that led to a goal, may have really did him in.
I trust Lavi. It's too bad though as MSG loves Rempe and I read the team is 15-0 with him the lineup?? Can that be accurate?!
but it's a great sign to see him on the ice regardless. I think many of us started to assume the worst when he was out with an "illness", but I highly doubt that he would be on the ice today after 6 months if there was even a suspicion that he was having ill effects from the concussion. It is unfortunate though because the crowd would collectively lose their minds if Chytil took the ice at MSG tonight.
Come on. No need to bring that energy into the chat. Brett will take care of us. Rangers in 5.
This. I have learned this year that as much as I love the Rangers, our fan base is so fragile it's ridiculous. The team literally went a full calendar month between losses, and after 1 loss, where the Rangers dug themselves in a huge hole and wound up at 3-3 late in the 3rd period and lost by a goal, so much of the fan base is in full freak out mode. They've been the best team in the league all year, and won 7 in a row to start the playoffs. I get it, this team has burned us before, but I fully expect the Rangers to win this series, honestly, whether they win tonight or not. That said, I expect their best game of the series tonight and a stress-free win.
Come on. No need to bring that energy into the chat. Brett will take care of us. Rangers in 5.
Just being a Ranger fan in general has fans paranoid I think
I get it, trust me. But I don't see this team losing 4 in a row. We actually have a coach who makes adjustments and ya know, coaches? Game 4 easily could have been the 3rd OT winner in a row.
Back in the Garden. I think the boys in blue will bring it tonight.
Start the game tonight with intensity and physicality
Make Canes keep there heads up . They get brave when he is not in the lineup . When he hits you you have been hit. Does not need many minutes to make a difference .
The generic "illness" tag is bothersome to me. They haven't really given more details than that. Something as simple as nausea, for example, is possible to be a symptom of post concussion. It could also be food poisoning, food borne illness, virus, etc. But, not getting hit in the head doesn't mean he is excluded from possible continued effects of the concussion. I hope 100% I am wrong. But, I am worried for his immediate and long term health.
The generic "illness" tag is bothersome to me. They haven't really given more details than that. Something as simple as nausea, for example, is possible to be a symptom of post concussion. It could also be food poisoning, food borne illness, virus, etc. But, not getting hit in the head doesn't mean he is excluded from possible continued effects of the concussion. I hope 100% I am wrong. But, I am worried for his immediate and long term health.
On one hand when I read posts like this I admire the humanity, but on the other hand I feel like who the F are you to question the approach here with Chytil? Chytil has his personal doctors and his family who only care about his wellness, and probably the best medical care available to anyone on the planet through the Rangers/NHL with neurologists, concussion specialists - both paid for by the team and independent experts, primary care doctors, trainers, PT's, etc. and you with no medical training or concussion background second guess them and feel like "I know what the experts - you know the people trained to handle patients like this for a living and have actually treated Chytil - recommend, but I wouldn't let him play. I would keep him out longer. And maybe he should not play ever again (I know I read you type this before).
It's cringe to read someone feel like they know more the experts and to go so far as to suggest when a player should or shouldn't return to the ice.
The days of rub dirt on that concussion and get back in there are over. If the medical staff allows him to play he's cleared it's that simple - by him, his family, his doctor, the Rangers doctor and the NHL independent concussion doctor. If it turns out he does re-injure himself, that would be a shame, but you can rest assured the course of action being recommended is based on more information and knowledge than you have.
Historically, watching Rangers' playoff games is a lot like
The generic "illness" tag is bothersome to me. They haven't really given more details than that. Something as simple as nausea, for example, is possible to be a symptom of post concussion. It could also be food poisoning, food borne illness, virus, etc. But, not getting hit in the head doesn't mean he is excluded from possible continued effects of the concussion. I hope 100% I am wrong. But, I am worried for his immediate and long term health.
On one hand when I read posts like this I admire the humanity, but on the other hand I feel like who the F are you to question the approach here with Chytil? Chytil has his personal doctors and his family who only care about his wellness, and probably the best medical care available to anyone on the planet through the Rangers/NHL with neurologists, concussion specialists - both paid for by the team and independent experts, primary care doctors, trainers, PT's, etc. and you with no medical training or concussion background second guess them and feel like "I know what the experts - you know the people trained to handle patients like this for a living and have actually treated Chytil - recommend, but I wouldn't let him play. I would keep him out longer. And maybe he should not play ever again (I know I read you type this before).
It's cringe to read someone feel like they know more the experts and to go so far as to suggest when a player should or shouldn't return to the ice.
The days of rub dirt on that concussion and get back in there are over. If the medical staff allows him to play he's cleared it's that simple - by him, his family, his doctor, the Rangers doctor and the NHL independent concussion doctor. If it turns out he does re-injure himself, that would be a shame, but you can rest assured the course of action being recommended is based on more information and knowledge than you have.
I'm all for questioning all these damn experts. Remember when Lundqvist got a puck to the neck, they played him next game, and then he was out for months?
wear the Whaler jerseys every now and then as a 3rd jersey.
Yeah, rub it in to the people in Hartford why don't ya.
Anyway, I hope the Rangers can close this out tonight.
LFGR!
That’s horseshit. I grew up in CT, every Whaler fan I know jumped on the Rangers or Bruins train once they left. I don’t know a single one who became a Canes fan
The generic "illness" tag is bothersome to me. They haven't really given more details than that. Something as simple as nausea, for example, is possible to be a symptom of post concussion. It could also be food poisoning, food borne illness, virus, etc. But, not getting hit in the head doesn't mean he is excluded from possible continued effects of the concussion. I hope 100% I am wrong. But, I am worried for his immediate and long term health.
On one hand when I read posts like this I admire the humanity, but on the other hand I feel like who the F are you to question the approach here with Chytil? Chytil has his personal doctors and his family who only care about his wellness, and probably the best medical care available to anyone on the planet through the Rangers/NHL with neurologists, concussion specialists - both paid for by the team and independent experts, primary care doctors, trainers, PT's, etc. and you with no medical training or concussion background second guess them and feel like "I know what the experts - you know the people trained to handle patients like this for a living and have actually treated Chytil - recommend, but I wouldn't let him play. I would keep him out longer. And maybe he should not play ever again (I know I read you type this before).
It's cringe to read someone feel like they know more the experts and to go so far as to suggest when a player should or shouldn't return to the ice.
The days of rub dirt on that concussion and get back in there are over. If the medical staff allows him to play he's cleared it's that simple - by him, his family, his doctor, the Rangers doctor and the NHL independent concussion doctor. If it turns out he does re-injure himself, that would be a shame, but you can rest assured the course of action being recommended is based on more information and knowledge than you have.
I'm not diagnosing him. I am merely worried about the guy. Other people here are easily dismissing anything going on with him as not related simply because he didn't get hit in the head. Remember when he returned to practice and collapsed on the ice...not from a hit. If the doctors say he is 100% in the clear, then it's his call and the team's call. I am just worried about him given what has happened.
RE: RE: RE: I really am still concerned for Chytil
The generic "illness" tag is bothersome to me. They haven't really given more details than that. Something as simple as nausea, for example, is possible to be a symptom of post concussion. It could also be food poisoning, food borne illness, virus, etc. But, not getting hit in the head doesn't mean he is excluded from possible continued effects of the concussion. I hope 100% I am wrong. But, I am worried for his immediate and long term health.
On one hand when I read posts like this I admire the humanity, but on the other hand I feel like who the F are you to question the approach here with Chytil? Chytil has his personal doctors and his family who only care about his wellness, and probably the best medical care available to anyone on the planet through the Rangers/NHL with neurologists, concussion specialists - both paid for by the team and independent experts, primary care doctors, trainers, PT's, etc. and you with no medical training or concussion background second guess them and feel like "I know what the experts - you know the people trained to handle patients like this for a living and have actually treated Chytil - recommend, but I wouldn't let him play. I would keep him out longer. And maybe he should not play ever again (I know I read you type this before).
It's cringe to read someone feel like they know more the experts and to go so far as to suggest when a player should or shouldn't return to the ice.
The days of rub dirt on that concussion and get back in there are over. If the medical staff allows him to play he's cleared it's that simple - by him, his family, his doctor, the Rangers doctor and the NHL independent concussion doctor. If it turns out he does re-injure himself, that would be a shame, but you can rest assured the course of action being recommended is based on more information and knowledge than you have.
I'm not diagnosing him. I am merely worried about the guy. Other people here are easily dismissing anything going on with him as not related simply because he didn't get hit in the head. Remember when he returned to practice and collapsed on the ice...not from a hit. If the doctors say he is 100% in the clear, then it's his call and the team's call. I am just worried about him given what has happened.
Put another way, none of us know what the doctors are actually saying. All we got was "illness". People here, the media, and team have said things like, "he felt great after the game and said so. Then he felt "sick" after dinner. He must have eaten something bad." These and similar comments may be true. They also may be way off base, especially given his history with this. I am just saying extreme caution should be exercised.
NHL teams are not required to report to the league or tell the public details about injuries or illnesses.
They are not reporting the details because they don't have to.
I'm well aware. I'm more speaking in response to people casually dismissing the possibility of something serious, just because a) he wasn't hit in the head during the game and b) said he felt great and didn't feel sick until after dinner. Neither of those scenarios remove the possibility of post concussion. All I can say is I hope the doctors are acorrect if they let him play.
Rangers better start matching the desperation shown by the Canes. Looked like they were skating on a Tuesday night in February against Nashville in that period. Wake up
prevent defense does not work in any sport, and that's what I've seen from the Rangers in the last couple games. The result in this game was predictable.
But this is depressing now. What looked like was a possible shutout by Igor went out the window because of fucking laviolette and his prevent defense. Didn't he learn yet after the last two games?
The confidence that you guys have in the New York Rangers has got to be one of us comical things ever. Well, after people believe in Daniel Jones is a franchise quarterback.
The confidence that you guys have in the New York Rangers has got to be one of us comical things ever. Well, after people believe in Daniel Jones is a franchise quarterback.
Clear as day that when the PP is clicking they are a juggernaut, and when it’s not they are the second best team on the ice.
They’ve been head and shoulders the better team four straight games now.
That’s a stretch. But the first four could have gone either way so this never really felt secure. We've got our hands full now and there’s no way some doubt isn’t creeping in. That’s for sure. I’d be surprised if we’re not back here for game 7
But all game chats fwiw are just filled with absolute losers. You guys are really the shittiest fans ever. You only know how to sell low and buy high.
Shitty fans.
The Knicks and Rangers...particularly the Knicks...are two of the sorriest franchises in fucking HISTORY. But it's the fans who come back year after year who are shitty. Not the teams.
But all game chats fwiw are just filled with absolute losers. You guys are really the shittiest fans ever. You only know how to sell low and buy high.
Shitty fans.
The Knicks and Rangers...particularly the Knicks...are two of the sorriest franchises in fucking HISTORY. But it's the fans who come back year after year who are shitty. Not the teams.
And another thing, when have Knicks or Rangers fans EVER had the opportunity to buy high? Holy shit, batman.
Panarin was fucking hooked by Chatfield (I think) when it was 1-1 in the third period. The Hurricanes had too many men on the ice for 10 FUCKING SECONDS.
Same story with the Knicks and Rangers. It doesn't excuse their shitty play, but these fucking refs have to be better.
everything that goes wrong is the fault of one of these players. which one do you think it is?
You are unhinged right now, take a breath.
2 of those D were out there for the first two CAR goals, one of them got walked out of the corner and the CAR player walked right around the other. I didn't see one mention of their names in the thread. Face it you just don't like the guy for some reason.
IF it were to happen, where would a loss in this series rank
In terms of NY sports disasters? In my life, the 2 that would stick out as worse are the 2004 Yanks and the NYG blowing that lead in SF. Would this be worse than the Knicks losing in ‘93 (Charles Smith game)?
RE: IF it were to happen, where would a loss in this series rank
In terms of NY sports disasters? In my life, the 2 that would stick out as worse are the 2004 Yanks and the NYG blowing that lead in SF. Would this be worse than the Knicks losing in ‘93 (Charles Smith game)?
Maybe throw in Mets losing to an inferior LAD in ‘88.
Not a single fucking person on the team played well.
However I don’t blame Shesty because they easily could’ve been down 3 goals after the first period.
The decision making with the puck was baffling. Guys incessantly forcing the puck into the middle of the ice was driving me crazy. The asinine passes on the PP made no sense. Bread falling asleep in the defensive zone cost them a goal for the second consecutive game. No physicality whatsoever.
They really need to get their heads out of their asses.
everything that goes wrong is the fault of one of these players. which one do you think it is?
You are unhinged right now, take a breath.
2 of those D were out there for the first two CAR goals, one of them got walked out of the corner and the CAR player walked right around the other. I didn't see one mention of their names in the thread. Face it you just don't like the guy for some reason.
There are different standards based on the status, salaries, and experience of players. You know this. Fair or not, when you make what he makes and you’re the captain, the standards are different than they are for Braden Schneider. Thats what the money is for.
And yes, Schneider completely screwed up that play. But Trouba, while still capable of good moments, nice play on the goal, really struggles to keep up against teams like this and that’s tough when he makes $8m against the cap.
All a bunch of blocked shots tell me is that the other team usually has the puck when you’re on the ice.
The whole team was bad tonight. Let’s make that clear though
But all game chats fwiw are just filled with absolute losers. You guys are really the shittiest fans ever. You only know how to sell low and buy high.
And who the fuck are you?
Anakim - who are you other than the biggest dork on this board? You guys legitimately think that your fave sport teams are going to play spotless every game and then you whine like 5 year olds when it doesnt happen. Then bitch - then change your mind on them when they prove something to you.
everything that goes wrong is the fault of one of these players. which one do you think it is?
You are unhinged right now, take a breath.
2 of those D were out there for the first two CAR goals, one of them got walked out of the corner and the CAR player walked right around the other. I didn't see one mention of their names in the thread. Face it you just don't like the guy for some reason.
There are different standards based on the status, salaries, and experience of players. You know this. Fair or not, when you make what he makes and you’re the captain, the standards are different than they are for Braden Schneider. Thats what the money is for.
And yes, Schneider completely screwed up that play. But Trouba, while still capable of good moments, nice play on the goal, really struggles to keep up against teams like this and that’s tough when he makes $8m against the cap.
All a bunch of blocked shots tell me is that the other team usually has the puck when you’re on the ice.
The whole team was bad tonight. Let’s make that clear though
Fair enough. I don't usually play the individual blame game in hockey. Maybe being a former player I hate it, and normally players don't think that way even if fans do. Sometimes I will explain my interpretation of whose guy it was that scored, or the sequence of events that led to the goal IMO. Hockey is the epitome of a team sport and while occasionally things do happen where one individual does something that directly leads to an opposing team goal, most of the time a lot of bad things happened that led to the goal.
Now, all that said, if I were forced to make a list of why the Rangers lost tonight IMO, Trouba would be near the bottom, but most of you want a lynching. it's like a social contagion. The money he gets paid doesn't change the contribution IMO to wins or losses.
My immediate pessimistic reaction is that we are now going to lose this series. At this point, I think its a lock to go 7, and that game 7 will be a coin flip. This feels like the brink of a disaster -- and while one part of this is that the Rangers find a way to fuck up in the playoffs, the other ius that Carolina is VERY good and we were up 3-0 due to some puck luck anyway.
I know Carolinas game is to live in the other team's zone and throw shit at the net, but at the beginning of this series, we looked like we were playing THEIR game and winningb by counterpunching/making them pay. Now, we're LETTING them play their game and dictate play. They're imposing it onto us.
Fox looks so fucking hurt out there.
Panarin has looked lazy at times in the last couple games. Getting beat to the puck cost us a goal in game 4. Tonight, once again, he was beat to the puck.
Mika and Chris played very poorly tonight.
Third line was not the shutdown beasts theyve been recently.
The powerplay is in complete discombubulation, and what's strange is that Carolina doesn't seem to be doing anything that differently. I guess they are playing slightly more aggressively but they were aggressive on the PK in the first few games also, they just got burned for it. There's no structure, it seems to be all chaos, we don't set up.
As an aside, and as a Rangers and somewhat Nets fan (basically, not a Knicks fan), lumping the Rangers and Knicks in the same category is ridiculous. Neither have won a championship but the Rangers have been lightyears better than the Knicks since the 05 lockout.
i'm so fucking pissed right now, and disappointed, i truly don't know how to shake it.
roslovic looked like the best player on the zib line tonight
but considering the rangers have an inability to hold the puck, would it be nuts to move kappo off the third line and onto the zib line, at least for some shifts? at least he can hold the puck and bring it in the zone when he gets it. having said that, roslovic was doing a good job with his speed of doing the same thing, but I don't think he's as good as possessing it as kappo.
thats probably an awful idea but just thinking aloud.
we desperately need chytil back.
and at this point, you can't play rempe if he's just not gonna play (although I don't think there's any plans to play him from here on out anyway. he doesn't play in carolina and he isn't gonna suit up for a game 7)
there is no way the Rangers are losing this series and they'll be a better team for it.
You all talk about rest, but I'd rather avoid rust then get rest. Florida got decimated by Boston coming off a week of rest because the Bruins Leafs went 7. Florida is a much better team, but Boston was sharp, Florida was rusty. In the conference finals you don't want to give up a game because you had more time off.
RE: Come on, you guys lost confidence that quickly?
there is no way the Rangers are losing this series and they'll be a better team for it.
You all talk about rest, but I'd rather avoid rust then get rest. Florida got decimated by Boston coming off a week of rest because the Bruins Leafs went 7. Florida is a much better team, but Boston was sharp, Florida was rusty. In the conference finals you don't want to give up a game because you had more time off.
for me at least, it's more a "respect for how good carolina" thing than "fuck the Rangers" thing
RE: RE: Come on, you guys lost confidence that quickly?
there is no way the Rangers are losing this series and they'll be a better team for it.
You all talk about rest, but I'd rather avoid rust then get rest. Florida got decimated by Boston coming off a week of rest because the Bruins Leafs went 7. Florida is a much better team, but Boston was sharp, Florida was rusty. In the conference finals you don't want to give up a game because you had more time off.
for me at least, it's more a "respect for how good carolina" thing than "fuck the Rangers" thing
totally fair, CAR is a great team. It's hard to find two teams closer in their division than NYR and CAR this past season. I like Igor though, and I think he's makes the difference in this series.
RE: Come on, you guys lost confidence that quickly?
there is no way the Rangers are losing this series and they'll be a better team for it.
You all talk about rest, but I'd rather avoid rust then get rest. Florida got decimated by Boston coming off a week of rest because the Bruins Leafs went 7. Florida is a much better team, but Boston was sharp, Florida was rusty. In the conference finals you don't want to give up a game because you had more time off.
If Jacob Trouba is your "top performer" on offense, yes lol there is no confidence heading into game 6. I 100% respect the hell out of Carolina, also.
As for the 2004 Yankees comparisons, that was 4 years after the last time they won their 4th WS in 5 years with their "unit" of the dynasty teams still around, Jeter, MO, Posada, Bernie, still around so it was a bit more stunning and infuriating at the same time against a long time arch rival, and on top of that to send them into the world Series and break their 86-year curse?
If this were to happen, I'd just laugh for a few seconds and roll my eyes and say ya same old joker Rangers. I'll attend games and whatnot (I love live hockey) but I haven't taken them seriously or gotten "hopes up" since 2015. Nope.
no urgency, no jump. Like the playing San Jose in January instead a chance to close out a really good team to advance.
Game 7 is now a real possibility.
Rangers are 7-2 in the playoffs. This isn't the Capitals they're playing. And God as my witness, last night before the game I had this eerie feeling the Rangers lose this one and win in Carolina.
Our team sucked in the 3rd. Like the Knicks Game 5 loss to close out Philly in round 1, I have no doubt this series ends next game. If not, win at home in game 7. Either way, I don't see this team losing to Carolina 4 games in a row.
from Kreider on the 1st CAR goal. Like with most things in sports people sometimes recognize the last thing to happen when a bad play happens against you, but often there is a series of events that lead to it. I'm not blaming Kreider for the goal, but this play doesn't happen if he bodies Orlov. Or at least stops. Orlov has so much time he waits for the CAR forwards to get onsides and and goes cross ice to Staal. It's a good 3 seconds while Kreider circles through the neutral zone, kind of nonchalantly. Kreider is not even in the picture in the last screen grab. That play didn't allow Schneider to change and he got caught flat-footed deep in his zone and Miller had to stay where he was to protect pass. Hung Igor out to dry.
Puck battle with Drury that Trouba wins. Mika and Kreider are in good position. Trouba should rim it around to Kreider or lay it up for Mika going behind the net. Due to the forecheck Trouba doesn't get wood on it. Good forecheck by Drury.
You can see the puck behind the net in the 2nd screen grab. That is Mika's puck. It's slightly misleading because the puck is moving. Away from Mika, but it's moving slowly - kind of how Mika is skating. Which of the three people get the loose puck? Kreider, Mika or Necas? Necas, of course - he's moving his feet.
Neither Mika or Kreider get a body on Necas, nor do they get in the passing lane. And I have no idea what Gus is doing on the half wall leaving two guys alone in front.
Point is not to take blame away from anyone or add it to someone else, my point is to highlight with almost every goal a lot happens that cause the breakdowns.
that Carolina was picked to win this series, and come out of the East?
How many people know that since the trade deadline (when they added offense to their lineup), that Carolina has been the best team in the league.
I thought this would be a 7 game series. Carolina's play will be different in game 7. (they will have "caught up in the series, and the amount of mental and physical energy it would have taken, takes its toll.)
I think they will smoke us in game 6, but we will prevail in a game 7.
There is not much separation between both teams.
I give credit to Canes for out skating and being faster to the puck in most situations.
They have outplayed us but Igor has been our savior.
Playoffs are all about forechecking and back checking and so
far we have failed.
Our failure to get out of our defensive zone cleanly looms large.
Finally, on our PP the Canes have been much more aggressive causing us to make sloppy passes.
Having said that all it takes is one more win to move forward.
LGR!!!
sucks for us fans. But it's an extra day of rest for the Rangers. I firmly, firmly, FIRMLY believe this ends on Thursday. No idea why, just a gut feeling.
Kreider said it best. We all would have signed up in a flash if we were told before the series we'd be up 3-2.
Win 1 of 2.
Go get it.
Kreider's quote reeks of the loser mentality that still permeates through this team in these situations. That quote pissed me off to no end. That type of mentality is why they lost to the Devils last year after being up 2-0 and lost to Tampa after being up 2-0 in the ECF in 2022. "Oh well, who would have thought we'd up 3-2 in this series, we'll take it". Then Trocheck says Carolina wanted it more, how can you not want it more when you can end a series?
No, gutless effort, they tried to sit on a one goal lead instead of attacking and taking the body and keeping pressure on Carolina to CLOSE OUT THE SERIES. You cannot continuously dump the puck out to the neutral zone, change lines and let the other team come with a full head of steam into your zone time after time before it catches up with you. Zibanejad, Kreider, Panarin, Trocheck, Trouba (outside of his goal), were all atrocious last night.
Not all 3-2 series leads are the same, this version doesn't feel too good. Up 1 going into the 3rd period at home with a chance to clinch the series and the best goalie in the world on the ice. Rangers were not able to even remotely match the Carolina level of intensity, and for the first time I'm genuinely concerned. Even if the 3rd period was a grind it out kind of period where Carolina got a late goal with the goalie pulled and then won in OT, or something to that effect, I would feel much better, but the Rangers got blown out of their own building in the biggest period of the season. The PP looks completely lost, Panarin has disappeared or worse (his "back check" on the Kuznetsov goal was pathetic), and Fox is clearly playing at maybe 70%.
That all said, I am not giving up because I still do not see this team losing 4 games in a row to anybody. I think the extra day of rest will help them to reset after a pathetic performance last night. Rangers have answered every bell this year when pressed, I see no reason they won't here.
sucks for us fans. But it's an extra day of rest for the Rangers. I firmly, firmly, FIRMLY believe this ends on Thursday. No idea why, just a gut feeling.
I feel the same way, the extra day blunts some of the Canes momentum and hopefully gives the Rangers a chance to recharge a little bit.
I understand the pessimism permeating the thread here, but the 2023-24 Rangers have answered every question so far, and they weren't just going to skate thru the playoffs without adversity.
We're going to find out a lot about this group on Thursday.
This is the beauty and agony of sports! This series features two of the best 4 teams in the league (Florida and Dallas the others in my opinion), we knew the Canes were never going to lie down and die. Rangers have won in Raleigh before and they can do it again. Hopefully Chytil comes back to give the bottom 6 a little more scoring punch, and the extra day off gives them a chance to reset after a rough game. This series has been a microcosm of the season, really. Rangers got off to a huge lead, Carolina hung around, and ultimately the Rangers prevailed. I know it's against all conventional wisdom, but I really do think the Rangers are going to close the door on Thursday.
Kreider said it best. We all would have signed up in a flash if we were told before the series we'd be up 3-2.
Win 1 of 2.
Go get it.
Kreider's quote reeks of the loser mentality that still permeates through this team in these situations. That quote pissed me off to no end. That type of mentality is why they lost to the Devils last year after being up 2-0 and lost to Tampa after being up 2-0 in the ECF in 2022. "Oh well, who would have thought we'd up 3-2 in this series, we'll take it". Then Trocheck says Carolina wanted it more, how can you not want it more when you can end a series?
No, gutless effort, they tried to sit on a one goal lead instead of attacking and taking the body and keeping pressure on Carolina to CLOSE OUT THE SERIES. You cannot continuously dump the puck out to the neutral zone, change lines and let the other team come with a full head of steam into your zone time after time before it catches up with you. Zibanejad, Kreider, Panarin, Trocheck, Trouba (outside of his goal), were all atrocious last night.
That's the point exactly. It's not that they lost, it's that they didn't show up. Trocheck's comment was very telling. As I wrote earlier, it was a disgraceful "effort".
I really think that Jones should be getting a look over Gustafsson.
Gustafsson is a fine player with a solid career and experience, but he's been poor in this series and has had a number of very costly instances of puck-watching and/or being out of position.
There's nothing about Gus's game that you worry about "missing" by sitting him, and it's hard to envision a scenario where you're looking back at the situation and saying "man, we really gave that one away by playing Jones over Gus".
Not to mention the fact that Jones played really, really well in his extended look due to injuries and that this is an opportunity to get playoff experience for a guy who should be very much in the plan to slide into Gus' spot when they let him walk in FA (which they definitely should).
I really think that Jones should be getting a look over Gustafsson.
Gustafsson is a fine player with a solid career and experience, but he's been poor in this series and has had a number of very costly instances of puck-watching and/or being out of position.
There's nothing about Gus's game that you worry about "missing" by sitting him, and it's hard to envision a scenario where you're looking back at the situation and saying "man, we really gave that one away by playing Jones over Gus".
Not to mention the fact that Jones played really, really well in his extended look due to injuries and that this is an opportunity to get playoff experience for a guy who should be very much in the plan to slide into Gus' spot when they let him walk in FA (which they definitely should).
I agree 100% with this. One of the things the Rangers have struggled with is getting the puck out of their own end. Jones is a good puck mover with mobility, and can easily take Gus's place on PP2 as well. Jones and Trouba have also played very well together in their limited run together.
Or, if Chytil can't go Thursday, maybe you go 11F/7D. Rempe can't play in Raleigh, Brodzinski is a marginal NHL player. Jones has an element to his game that is legitimately an area where they struggle. I'm not usually a fan of 11F/7D, but I think it makes sense if Chytil isn't able to play.
to Vally, the Rangers had 1 high percentage chance last night. The whole team was floating. Vally - ( New Window )
I think that is low, seeing as the Trouba goal is the 1 high danger chance on Clear Sight. They had other chances. Not many, but they did have more than the 1. Natural Stat Trick had it 13-5 Carolina in HDCF, which I think is more in line with what I saw.
I'm pretty sure my 73 year old mother could knock him off the puck.
The Wennberg line was a great shutdown line for the first few games, and was effective on the forecheck, but that has not been the case the past few games. I had written Chytil off for this season, but at this point, I am not sure how far they can go without injecting some offensive production to the bottom 6.
here's LAST years Western Conference Finals. Vegas went up 3-0 against Dallas. Vegas barely lost game 4 in OT. Got drubbed game 5. Blasted the Stars game 6 when Dallas ran out of gas.
Golden Knights win series, 4-2
Game 1: Golden Knights 4, Stars 3 (OT)
Game 2: Golden Knights 3, Stars 2 (OT)
Game 3: Golden Knights 4, Stars 0
Game 4: Stars 3, Golden Knights 2 (OT)
Game 5: Stars 4, Golden Knights 2
Game 6: Golden Knights 6, Stars 0
So.. you doomers. Man the hell up, grab your pair and lets handle business this Thursday. Rangers in 6.
here's LAST years Western Conference Finals. Vegas went up 3-0 against Dallas. Vegas barely lost game 4 in OT. Got drubbed game 5. Blasted the Stars game 6 when Dallas ran out of gas.
Golden Knights win series, 4-2
Game 1: Golden Knights 4, Stars 3 (OT)
Game 2: Golden Knights 3, Stars 2 (OT)
Game 3: Golden Knights 4, Stars 0
Game 4: Stars 3, Golden Knights 2 (OT)
Game 5: Stars 4, Golden Knights 2
Game 6: Golden Knights 6, Stars 0
So.. you doomers. Man the hell up, grab your pair and lets handle business this Thursday. Rangers in 6.
Love it, it can be hard to be positive after losing 2 elimination games in a row, but it's a good reminder that just last year, the eventual Cup winners did just that. I think I'm going to throw money down on Rangers -1.5 Thursday!
Rangers need to get off to fast start and get in on the forecheck early.
If not Chytil...it's a tough call. Brodzinski is a better hockey player than Remoe and will play a few more minutes than Rempe. But the Rangers record with Rempe is incredible. So there has to be something to it. And you know the Canes don't want him in the lineup, as they are then worried about him rocking them. But the refs also watch him like a hawk. So him taking penalties, as well as his defensive lapses, could be devasting in a huge game like this.
NYR end this tonight. Easy win.
I was busy and couldn't comment on game 4, it was disappointing to lose, but the Rangers played their worst period of the playoffs, by far, and still found a way to be 3-3 with 3+ minutes to play, despite only having 1 PP the whole game. I think tonight they jump out to an early lead, lock it down, and deliver the death blow in the third period in a 3-1 win. I'm looking to Igor to really shut the door tonight, and maybe even grab that elusive first career playoff shutout.
NYR end this tonight. Easy win.
This is a series I felt very confident about, but never would have thought they would have taken a 3-0 lead. A sweep would have been awesome, but it's good to get a clunker (really just one clunker of a period) out of the way and still have a commanding series lead. With Boston getting absolutely boned last night (but also getting badly outplayed most of the game), pressure is on the Rangers to close this out tonight so Florida is not going in to the ECF better rested. Rangers are a team that plays their best when they are rested.
I have the same feeling. They need to finish them tonight. Period.
Who the fuck does that? And the Whaler jerseys look NEW which is even more fucking ridiculous. You're going to PAY money to that franchise and celebrate ripping a team out of Hartford. Fucking Brilliant. You fucking sad sacked shit fan base.
Who the fuck does that? And the Whaler jerseys look NEW which is even more fucking ridiculous. You're going to PAY money to that franchise and celebrate ripping a team out of Hartford. Fucking Brilliant. You fucking sad sacked shit fan base.
So you woke up and chose violence this morning? lol
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but what the fuck is up with the cuckold fans that wear WHALERS jerseys to Carolina home games? Have people lost their fucking minds? You don't see any Browns fans wearing their faded and fat wrinkled Bernie Kosar Jerseys at Ravens home games do you? Of course not.
Who the fuck does that? And the Whaler jerseys look NEW which is even more fucking ridiculous. You're going to PAY money to that franchise and celebrate ripping a team out of Hartford. Fucking Brilliant. You fucking sad sacked shit fan base.
So you woke up and chose violence this morning? lol
MSG teams have me cranky this morning but all in all I can't be disappointed with either team. Rangers will be fine.
Who the fuck does that? And the Whaler jerseys look NEW which is even more fucking ridiculous. You're going to PAY money to that franchise and celebrate ripping a team out of Hartford. Fucking Brilliant. You fucking sad sacked shit fan base.
They have a store in PNC Arena that strictly sells Whalers gear.
Interestingly, Wheeler was a full participant (no non-contact jersey). Nice story, and seems like a great dude, but my standing preference will be that he remains in suit.
5th line in practice was Edstrom-Rempe-Wheels
Nothing is over till it's over, and it would be unnecessarily nerve-wracking to drop tonight's game, but I feel good about this team. They know how to win.
Yup, great news! As it can't be concussion related then. Wheeler also a full go with no more non-practice jersey. Good to have options. NHL playoffs can often be a war of attrition.
If Chytil isn't ready tonight, get Rempe back in there to crush their D.
100% agree. Can't let them go back to Carolina for Game 6. Must finish them off tonight. Although, it is nice to have a Game 7 in NY in your pocket in case you need it. That is where winning the President's Trophy really pays off.
LGR!
2. If the Rangers pull a 2004 Yankees, I'd be 0% surprised.
Agreed. If we don't close them tonight, we're close to a coin flip for the series.
Saw that too. Apparently Lavi is scared to get Rempe back in there, due to his possibility of getting called for penalties with refs focused on him. Not to mention that defensive lapse in his last game that led to a goal, may have really did him in.
I trust Lavi. It's too bad though as MSG loves Rempe and I read the team is 15-0 with him the lineup?? Can that be accurate?!
Panarin-Trocheck-Lafrenière
Cuylle-Wennberg-Kakko
Vesey-Goodrow-Brodzinski
Much rather have Rempe in over Brodz if Chytil can't go.
O4 Yankees?
Come on. No need to bring that energy into the chat. Brett will take care of us. Rangers in 5.
O4 Yankees?
Come on. No need to bring that energy into the chat. Brett will take care of us. Rangers in 5.
Just being a Ranger fan in general has fans paranoid I think
O4 Yankees?
Come on. No need to bring that energy into the chat. Brett will take care of us. Rangers in 5.
This. I have learned this year that as much as I love the Rangers, our fan base is so fragile it's ridiculous. The team literally went a full calendar month between losses, and after 1 loss, where the Rangers dug themselves in a huge hole and wound up at 3-3 late in the 3rd period and lost by a goal, so much of the fan base is in full freak out mode. They've been the best team in the league all year, and won 7 in a row to start the playoffs. I get it, this team has burned us before, but I fully expect the Rangers to win this series, honestly, whether they win tonight or not. That said, I expect their best game of the series tonight and a stress-free win.
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some you guys a little soft.
O4 Yankees?
Come on. No need to bring that energy into the chat. Brett will take care of us. Rangers in 5.
Just being a Ranger fan in general has fans paranoid I think
I get it, trust me. But I don't see this team losing 4 in a row. We actually have a coach who makes adjustments and ya know, coaches? Game 4 easily could have been the 3rd OT winner in a row.
Back in the Garden. I think the boys in blue will bring it tonight.
I prefer Brodzinski over Rempe on fourth line. Provides better defensive zone coverage imv.
O4 Yankees?
Come on. No need to bring that energy into the chat. Brett will take care of us. Rangers in 5.
Rangers aren't losing four in a row to this team. Don't worry.
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some you guys a little soft.
O4 Yankees?
Come on. No need to bring that energy into the chat. Brett will take care of us. Rangers in 5.
Just being a Ranger fan in general has fans paranoid I think
Yep
Need Rangers to leave the good energy in the building!
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some you guys a little soft.
O4 Yankees?
Come on. No need to bring that energy into the chat. Brett will take care of us. Rangers in 5.
Just being a Ranger fan in general has fans paranoid I think
Yeah, rub it in to the people in Hartford why don't ya.
Anyway, I hope the Rangers can close this out tonight.
LFGR!
Yeah, rub it in to the people in Hartford why don't ya.
Anyway, I hope the Rangers can close this out tonight.
LFGR!
Ridiculous. Unnaccetpable. They deserve to lose in 5.
On one hand when I read posts like this I admire the humanity, but on the other hand I feel like who the F are you to question the approach here with Chytil? Chytil has his personal doctors and his family who only care about his wellness, and probably the best medical care available to anyone on the planet through the Rangers/NHL with neurologists, concussion specialists - both paid for by the team and independent experts, primary care doctors, trainers, PT's, etc. and you with no medical training or concussion background second guess them and feel like "I know what the experts - you know the people trained to handle patients like this for a living and have actually treated Chytil - recommend, but I wouldn't let him play. I would keep him out longer. And maybe he should not play ever again (I know I read you type this before).
It's cringe to read someone feel like they know more the experts and to go so far as to suggest when a player should or shouldn't return to the ice.
The days of rub dirt on that concussion and get back in there are over. If the medical staff allows him to play he's cleared it's that simple - by him, his family, his doctor, the Rangers doctor and the NHL independent concussion doctor. If it turns out he does re-injure himself, that would be a shame, but you can rest assured the course of action being recommended is based on more information and knowledge than you have.
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The generic "illness" tag is bothersome to me. They haven't really given more details than that. Something as simple as nausea, for example, is possible to be a symptom of post concussion. It could also be food poisoning, food borne illness, virus, etc. But, not getting hit in the head doesn't mean he is excluded from possible continued effects of the concussion. I hope 100% I am wrong. But, I am worried for his immediate and long term health.
On one hand when I read posts like this I admire the humanity, but on the other hand I feel like who the F are you to question the approach here with Chytil? Chytil has his personal doctors and his family who only care about his wellness, and probably the best medical care available to anyone on the planet through the Rangers/NHL with neurologists, concussion specialists - both paid for by the team and independent experts, primary care doctors, trainers, PT's, etc. and you with no medical training or concussion background second guess them and feel like "I know what the experts - you know the people trained to handle patients like this for a living and have actually treated Chytil - recommend, but I wouldn't let him play. I would keep him out longer. And maybe he should not play ever again (I know I read you type this before).
It's cringe to read someone feel like they know more the experts and to go so far as to suggest when a player should or shouldn't return to the ice.
The days of rub dirt on that concussion and get back in there are over. If the medical staff allows him to play he's cleared it's that simple - by him, his family, his doctor, the Rangers doctor and the NHL independent concussion doctor. If it turns out he does re-injure himself, that would be a shame, but you can rest assured the course of action being recommended is based on more information and knowledge than you have.
It appears Matt’s heart is in the right place.
A lecture is probably not necessary.
LGR!
These guys screw up, too.
Yeah, rub it in to the people in Hartford why don't ya.
Anyway, I hope the Rangers can close this out tonight.
LFGR!
That’s horseshit. I grew up in CT, every Whaler fan I know jumped on the Rangers or Bruins train once they left. I don’t know a single one who became a Canes fan
Fuck them. LGR
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The generic "illness" tag is bothersome to me. They haven't really given more details than that. Something as simple as nausea, for example, is possible to be a symptom of post concussion. It could also be food poisoning, food borne illness, virus, etc. But, not getting hit in the head doesn't mean he is excluded from possible continued effects of the concussion. I hope 100% I am wrong. But, I am worried for his immediate and long term health.
On one hand when I read posts like this I admire the humanity, but on the other hand I feel like who the F are you to question the approach here with Chytil? Chytil has his personal doctors and his family who only care about his wellness, and probably the best medical care available to anyone on the planet through the Rangers/NHL with neurologists, concussion specialists - both paid for by the team and independent experts, primary care doctors, trainers, PT's, etc. and you with no medical training or concussion background second guess them and feel like "I know what the experts - you know the people trained to handle patients like this for a living and have actually treated Chytil - recommend, but I wouldn't let him play. I would keep him out longer. And maybe he should not play ever again (I know I read you type this before).
It's cringe to read someone feel like they know more the experts and to go so far as to suggest when a player should or shouldn't return to the ice.
The days of rub dirt on that concussion and get back in there are over. If the medical staff allows him to play he's cleared it's that simple - by him, his family, his doctor, the Rangers doctor and the NHL independent concussion doctor. If it turns out he does re-injure himself, that would be a shame, but you can rest assured the course of action being recommended is based on more information and knowledge than you have.
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The generic "illness" tag is bothersome to me. They haven't really given more details than that. Something as simple as nausea, for example, is possible to be a symptom of post concussion. It could also be food poisoning, food borne illness, virus, etc. But, not getting hit in the head doesn't mean he is excluded from possible continued effects of the concussion. I hope 100% I am wrong. But, I am worried for his immediate and long term health.
On one hand when I read posts like this I admire the humanity, but on the other hand I feel like who the F are you to question the approach here with Chytil? Chytil has his personal doctors and his family who only care about his wellness, and probably the best medical care available to anyone on the planet through the Rangers/NHL with neurologists, concussion specialists - both paid for by the team and independent experts, primary care doctors, trainers, PT's, etc. and you with no medical training or concussion background second guess them and feel like "I know what the experts - you know the people trained to handle patients like this for a living and have actually treated Chytil - recommend, but I wouldn't let him play. I would keep him out longer. And maybe he should not play ever again (I know I read you type this before).
It's cringe to read someone feel like they know more the experts and to go so far as to suggest when a player should or shouldn't return to the ice.
The days of rub dirt on that concussion and get back in there are over. If the medical staff allows him to play he's cleared it's that simple - by him, his family, his doctor, the Rangers doctor and the NHL independent concussion doctor. If it turns out he does re-injure himself, that would be a shame, but you can rest assured the course of action being recommended is based on more information and knowledge than you have.
I'm not diagnosing him. I am merely worried about the guy. Other people here are easily dismissing anything going on with him as not related simply because he didn't get hit in the head. Remember when he returned to practice and collapsed on the ice...not from a hit. If the doctors say he is 100% in the clear, then it's his call and the team's call. I am just worried about him given what has happened.
They are not reporting the details because they don't have to.
They are not reporting the details because they don't have to.
END THIS TONIGHT
END THIS TONIGHT
What concerns me is he has to be thinking what are they going to whistle me for despite what the coaching staff is telling him.
Come out strong and finish this!
Hurricanes at Rangers - 7 pm ET start - ESPN feed (strfish.xyz) - ( New Window )
Hurricanes at Rangers - 7 pm ET start - ESPN feed (strfish.xyz) - ( New Window )
I understand cutting the cord for many, even though I still haven't. But what kind of sports fan doesn't then at least pay for ESPN+?
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I understand cutting the cord for many, even though I still haven't. But what kind of sports fan doesn't then at least pay for ESPN+?
Not everyone is in America man. I watched the 2014 Staley Cup Finals between the Rangers and Kings online in Abu Dhabi. And not everyone has cable.
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I understand cutting the cord for many, even though I still haven't. But what kind of sports fan doesn't then at least pay for ESPN+?
Not everyone is in America man. I watched the 2014 Staley Cup Finals between the Rangers and Kings online in Abu Dhabi. And not everyone has cable.
ESPN+ only works in USA? That sucks.
Hahahaha...he needed a redeemer!!
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I understand cutting the cord for many, even though I still haven't. But what kind of sports fan doesn't then at least pay for ESPN+?
Not everyone is in America man. I watched the 2014 Staley Cup Finals between the Rangers and Kings online in Abu Dhabi. And not everyone has cable.
ESPN+ only works in USA? That sucks.
Yep. Found out last week. Had to sign up for a VPN and then it worked.
It's not only that. No one taking the body down low. Letting them dance. Nonchalantly waving sticks. Same. Old. Shit
In 2004 that was a blindside, the Yankees dominated the first three games especially game three. This has been an even series.
And looks like we are going back to Carolina
We really don’t
And looks like we are going back to Carolina
No, they are still shrinking violets. They have zero killer instinct and haven't for 30 years.
Carolina is winning the series.
Been pretty rough going since Knicks were up like 9 with about 8 minutes left on Friday night
The 3-0 lead was both real and a mirage.
Two coin flip games went NY’s way.
The Rangers could have been swept just as easily.
Tiniest of margins between these squads.
This series is exactly where it should be.
Their PP.has looked terrible tonight. They can't pass and control the puck. What makes anyone think they can convert?
Nice goal by Trouba. Maybe he should switch to forward cause he can’t handle a forecheck to save his life. Lecture us again about how good he is
Nice goal by Trouba. Maybe he should switch to forward cause he can’t handle a forecheck to save his life. Lecture us again about how good he is
No lectures here. He a thug and he sucks. Good riddance.
How many times have we seen the Blueshirts try to pass or fire a puck through a body?!
Igor held them in it for 2 periods.
How many times have we seen the Blueshirts try to pass or fire a puck through a body?!
Igor held them in it for 2 periods.
Maloney very complimentary of the Canes game from the jump. He’s had no reservation observing that the Rangers have been thoroughly outplayed.
Clear as day that when the PP is clicking they are a juggernaut, and when it’s not they are the second best team on the ice.
It’s a very dangerous game to play to expect your goalie to save your ass….
That’s a stretch. But the first four could have gone either way so this never really felt secure. We've got our hands full now and there’s no way some doubt isn’t creeping in. That’s for sure. I’d be surprised if we’re not back here for game 7
Hes been bad since his game winner.
Imagine if we did that? We wouldn't be here.
Trouba is not a captain
Now that they are decidedly back in the series, and playing G6 at home, perhaps their sticks get a held a little tighter . . .
Fuck him. Play Ruhwedal. I’m sick of seeing that big tub of shit we call a captain playing subpar.
Which Cane gets a bloody sock?
And who the fuck are you?
Shitty fans.
The Knicks and Rangers...particularly the Knicks...are two of the sorriest franchises in fucking HISTORY. But it's the fans who come back year after year who are shitty. Not the teams.
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But all game chats fwiw are just filled with absolute losers. You guys are really the shittiest fans ever. You only know how to sell low and buy high.
Shitty fans.
The Knicks and Rangers...particularly the Knicks...are two of the sorriest franchises in fucking HISTORY. But it's the fans who come back year after year who are shitty. Not the teams.
And another thing, when have Knicks or Rangers fans EVER had the opportunity to buy high? Holy shit, batman.
Rough night...rough rough night
Now you're growing up
Same story with the Knicks and Rangers. It doesn't excuse their shitty play, but these fucking refs have to be better.
#2 9 GP, 1G/3A 4 pts, +1, 12 PIM, 32 hits, 41 blocked shots
#3 9 GP, 0G/4A 4 pts, 0 +/- 6 PIM, 6 hits, 18 blocked shots
#4 9 GP, 0G/1A 1 pts, 0 +/- 14 PIM, 16 hits, 14 blocked shots
#5 9 GP, 0G/3A 3 pts, -2, 4 PIM, 15 hits, 5 blocked shots
#6 9 GP, 0G/0A 0 pts, 0 +/1 4 PIM, 9 hits, 10 blocked shots
everything that goes wrong is the fault of one of these players. which one do you think it is?
You are unhinged right now, take a breath.
2 of those D were out there for the first two CAR goals, one of them got walked out of the corner and the CAR player walked right around the other. I didn't see one mention of their names in the thread. Face it you just don't like the guy for some reason.
Maybe throw in Mets losing to an inferior LAD in ‘88.
The decision making with the puck was baffling. Guys incessantly forcing the puck into the middle of the ice was driving me crazy. The asinine passes on the PP made no sense. Bread falling asleep in the defensive zone cost them a goal for the second consecutive game. No physicality whatsoever.
They really need to get their heads out of their asses.
#2 9 GP, 1G/3A 4 pts, +1, 12 PIM, 32 hits, 41 blocked shots
#3 9 GP, 0G/4A 4 pts, 0 +/- 6 PIM, 6 hits, 18 blocked shots
#4 9 GP, 0G/1A 1 pts, 0 +/- 14 PIM, 16 hits, 14 blocked shots
#5 9 GP, 0G/3A 3 pts, -2, 4 PIM, 15 hits, 5 blocked shots
#6 9 GP, 0G/0A 0 pts, 0 +/1 4 PIM, 9 hits, 10 blocked shots
everything that goes wrong is the fault of one of these players. which one do you think it is?
You are unhinged right now, take a breath.
2 of those D were out there for the first two CAR goals, one of them got walked out of the corner and the CAR player walked right around the other. I didn't see one mention of their names in the thread. Face it you just don't like the guy for some reason.
There are different standards based on the status, salaries, and experience of players. You know this. Fair or not, when you make what he makes and you’re the captain, the standards are different than they are for Braden Schneider. Thats what the money is for.
And yes, Schneider completely screwed up that play. But Trouba, while still capable of good moments, nice play on the goal, really struggles to keep up against teams like this and that’s tough when he makes $8m against the cap.
All a bunch of blocked shots tell me is that the other team usually has the puck when you’re on the ice.
The whole team was bad tonight. Let’s make that clear though
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But all game chats fwiw are just filled with absolute losers. You guys are really the shittiest fans ever. You only know how to sell low and buy high.
And who the fuck are you?
Anakim - who are you other than the biggest dork on this board? You guys legitimately think that your fave sport teams are going to play spotless every game and then you whine like 5 year olds when it doesnt happen. Then bitch - then change your mind on them when they prove something to you.
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#1 9 GP, 1G/1A 2 pts, +2 2 PIM, 16 hits, 12 blocked shots
#2 9 GP, 1G/3A 4 pts, +1, 12 PIM, 32 hits, 41 blocked shots
#3 9 GP, 0G/4A 4 pts, 0 +/- 6 PIM, 6 hits, 18 blocked shots
#4 9 GP, 0G/1A 1 pts, 0 +/- 14 PIM, 16 hits, 14 blocked shots
#5 9 GP, 0G/3A 3 pts, -2, 4 PIM, 15 hits, 5 blocked shots
#6 9 GP, 0G/0A 0 pts, 0 +/1 4 PIM, 9 hits, 10 blocked shots
everything that goes wrong is the fault of one of these players. which one do you think it is?
You are unhinged right now, take a breath.
2 of those D were out there for the first two CAR goals, one of them got walked out of the corner and the CAR player walked right around the other. I didn't see one mention of their names in the thread. Face it you just don't like the guy for some reason.
There are different standards based on the status, salaries, and experience of players. You know this. Fair or not, when you make what he makes and you’re the captain, the standards are different than they are for Braden Schneider. Thats what the money is for.
And yes, Schneider completely screwed up that play. But Trouba, while still capable of good moments, nice play on the goal, really struggles to keep up against teams like this and that’s tough when he makes $8m against the cap.
All a bunch of blocked shots tell me is that the other team usually has the puck when you’re on the ice.
The whole team was bad tonight. Let’s make that clear though
Fair enough. I don't usually play the individual blame game in hockey. Maybe being a former player I hate it, and normally players don't think that way even if fans do. Sometimes I will explain my interpretation of whose guy it was that scored, or the sequence of events that led to the goal IMO. Hockey is the epitome of a team sport and while occasionally things do happen where one individual does something that directly leads to an opposing team goal, most of the time a lot of bad things happened that led to the goal.
Now, all that said, if I were forced to make a list of why the Rangers lost tonight IMO, Trouba would be near the bottom, but most of you want a lynching. it's like a social contagion. The money he gets paid doesn't change the contribution IMO to wins or losses.
My immediate pessimistic reaction is that we are now going to lose this series. At this point, I think its a lock to go 7, and that game 7 will be a coin flip. This feels like the brink of a disaster -- and while one part of this is that the Rangers find a way to fuck up in the playoffs, the other ius that Carolina is VERY good and we were up 3-0 due to some puck luck anyway.
I know Carolinas game is to live in the other team's zone and throw shit at the net, but at the beginning of this series, we looked like we were playing THEIR game and winningb by counterpunching/making them pay. Now, we're LETTING them play their game and dictate play. They're imposing it onto us.
Fox looks so fucking hurt out there.
Panarin has looked lazy at times in the last couple games. Getting beat to the puck cost us a goal in game 4. Tonight, once again, he was beat to the puck.
Mika and Chris played very poorly tonight.
Third line was not the shutdown beasts theyve been recently.
The powerplay is in complete discombubulation, and what's strange is that Carolina doesn't seem to be doing anything that differently. I guess they are playing slightly more aggressively but they were aggressive on the PK in the first few games also, they just got burned for it. There's no structure, it seems to be all chaos, we don't set up.
As an aside, and as a Rangers and somewhat Nets fan (basically, not a Knicks fan), lumping the Rangers and Knicks in the same category is ridiculous. Neither have won a championship but the Rangers have been lightyears better than the Knicks since the 05 lockout.
i'm so fucking pissed right now, and disappointed, i truly don't know how to shake it.
thats probably an awful idea but just thinking aloud.
we desperately need chytil back.
and at this point, you can't play rempe if he's just not gonna play (although I don't think there's any plans to play him from here on out anyway. he doesn't play in carolina and he isn't gonna suit up for a game 7)
You all talk about rest, but I'd rather avoid rust then get rest. Florida got decimated by Boston coming off a week of rest because the Bruins Leafs went 7. Florida is a much better team, but Boston was sharp, Florida was rusty. In the conference finals you don't want to give up a game because you had more time off.
You all talk about rest, but I'd rather avoid rust then get rest. Florida got decimated by Boston coming off a week of rest because the Bruins Leafs went 7. Florida is a much better team, but Boston was sharp, Florida was rusty. In the conference finals you don't want to give up a game because you had more time off.
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there is no way the Rangers are losing this series and they'll be a better team for it.
You all talk about rest, but I'd rather avoid rust then get rest. Florida got decimated by Boston coming off a week of rest because the Bruins Leafs went 7. Florida is a much better team, but Boston was sharp, Florida was rusty. In the conference finals you don't want to give up a game because you had more time off.
for me at least, it's more a "respect for how good carolina" thing than "fuck the Rangers" thing
totally fair, CAR is a great team. It's hard to find two teams closer in their division than NYR and CAR this past season. I like Igor though, and I think he's makes the difference in this series.
You all talk about rest, but I'd rather avoid rust then get rest. Florida got decimated by Boston coming off a week of rest because the Bruins Leafs went 7. Florida is a much better team, but Boston was sharp, Florida was rusty. In the conference finals you don't want to give up a game because you had more time off.
If Jacob Trouba is your "top performer" on offense, yes lol there is no confidence heading into game 6. I 100% respect the hell out of Carolina, also.
If this were to happen, I'd just laugh for a few seconds and roll my eyes and say ya same old joker Rangers. I'll attend games and whatnot (I love live hockey) but I haven't taken them seriously or gotten "hopes up" since 2015. Nope.
Sweeping Carolina was an illusion.
Still a lot of hockey left. Now we learn about the heart of this team.
LGR!!!
Let’s go Rangers.
Game 7 is now a real possibility.
Kreider said it best. We all would have signed up in a flash if we were told before the series we'd be up 3-2.
Win 1 of 2.
Go get it.
Rangers are 7-2 in the playoffs. This isn't the Capitals they're playing. And God as my witness, last night before the game I had this eerie feeling the Rangers lose this one and win in Carolina.
Our team sucked in the 3rd. Like the Knicks Game 5 loss to close out Philly in round 1, I have no doubt this series ends next game. If not, win at home in game 7. Either way, I don't see this team losing to Carolina 4 games in a row.
Gonna frame this one.
Puck battle with Drury that Trouba wins. Mika and Kreider are in good position. Trouba should rim it around to Kreider or lay it up for Mika going behind the net. Due to the forecheck Trouba doesn't get wood on it. Good forecheck by Drury.
You can see the puck behind the net in the 2nd screen grab. That is Mika's puck. It's slightly misleading because the puck is moving. Away from Mika, but it's moving slowly - kind of how Mika is skating. Which of the three people get the loose puck? Kreider, Mika or Necas? Necas, of course - he's moving his feet.
Neither Mika or Kreider get a body on Necas, nor do they get in the passing lane. And I have no idea what Gus is doing on the half wall leaving two guys alone in front.
Point is not to take blame away from anyone or add it to someone else, my point is to highlight with almost every goal a lot happens that cause the breakdowns.
How many people know that since the trade deadline (when they added offense to their lineup), that Carolina has been the best team in the league.
I thought this would be a 7 game series. Carolina's play will be different in game 7. (they will have "caught up in the series, and the amount of mental and physical energy it would have taken, takes its toll.)
I think they will smoke us in game 6, but we will prevail in a game 7.
I give credit to Canes for out skating and being faster to the puck in most situations.
They have outplayed us but Igor has been our savior.
Playoffs are all about forechecking and back checking and so
far we have failed.
Our failure to get out of our defensive zone cleanly looms large.
Finally, on our PP the Canes have been much more aggressive causing us to make sloppy passes.
Having said that all it takes is one more win to move forward.
LGR!!!
Kreider said it best. We all would have signed up in a flash if we were told before the series we'd be up 3-2.
Win 1 of 2.
Go get it.
Kreider's quote reeks of the loser mentality that still permeates through this team in these situations. That quote pissed me off to no end. That type of mentality is why they lost to the Devils last year after being up 2-0 and lost to Tampa after being up 2-0 in the ECF in 2022. "Oh well, who would have thought we'd up 3-2 in this series, we'll take it". Then Trocheck says Carolina wanted it more, how can you not want it more when you can end a series?
No, gutless effort, they tried to sit on a one goal lead instead of attacking and taking the body and keeping pressure on Carolina to CLOSE OUT THE SERIES. You cannot continuously dump the puck out to the neutral zone, change lines and let the other team come with a full head of steam into your zone time after time before it catches up with you. Zibanejad, Kreider, Panarin, Trocheck, Trouba (outside of his goal), were all atrocious last night.
That all said, I am not giving up because I still do not see this team losing 4 games in a row to anybody. I think the extra day of rest will help them to reset after a pathetic performance last night. Rangers have answered every bell this year when pressed, I see no reason they won't here.
I feel the same way, the extra day blunts some of the Canes momentum and hopefully gives the Rangers a chance to recharge a little bit.
I understand the pessimism permeating the thread here, but the 2023-24 Rangers have answered every question so far, and they weren't just going to skate thru the playoffs without adversity.
We're going to find out a lot about this group on Thursday.
This is the beauty and agony of sports! This series features two of the best 4 teams in the league (Florida and Dallas the others in my opinion), we knew the Canes were never going to lie down and die. Rangers have won in Raleigh before and they can do it again. Hopefully Chytil comes back to give the bottom 6 a little more scoring punch, and the extra day off gives them a chance to reset after a rough game. This series has been a microcosm of the season, really. Rangers got off to a huge lead, Carolina hung around, and ultimately the Rangers prevailed. I know it's against all conventional wisdom, but I really do think the Rangers are going to close the door on Thursday.
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Carolina is an excellent team.
Kreider said it best. We all would have signed up in a flash if we were told before the series we'd be up 3-2.
Win 1 of 2.
Go get it.
Kreider's quote reeks of the loser mentality that still permeates through this team in these situations. That quote pissed me off to no end. That type of mentality is why they lost to the Devils last year after being up 2-0 and lost to Tampa after being up 2-0 in the ECF in 2022. "Oh well, who would have thought we'd up 3-2 in this series, we'll take it". Then Trocheck says Carolina wanted it more, how can you not want it more when you can end a series?
No, gutless effort, they tried to sit on a one goal lead instead of attacking and taking the body and keeping pressure on Carolina to CLOSE OUT THE SERIES. You cannot continuously dump the puck out to the neutral zone, change lines and let the other team come with a full head of steam into your zone time after time before it catches up with you. Zibanejad, Kreider, Panarin, Trocheck, Trouba (outside of his goal), were all atrocious last night.
That's the point exactly. It's not that they lost, it's that they didn't show up. Trocheck's comment was very telling. As I wrote earlier, it was a disgraceful "effort".
Gustafsson is a fine player with a solid career and experience, but he's been poor in this series and has had a number of very costly instances of puck-watching and/or being out of position.
There's nothing about Gus's game that you worry about "missing" by sitting him, and it's hard to envision a scenario where you're looking back at the situation and saying "man, we really gave that one away by playing Jones over Gus".
Not to mention the fact that Jones played really, really well in his extended look due to injuries and that this is an opportunity to get playoff experience for a guy who should be very much in the plan to slide into Gus' spot when they let him walk in FA (which they definitely should).
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Gustafsson is a fine player with a solid career and experience, but he's been poor in this series and has had a number of very costly instances of puck-watching and/or being out of position.
There's nothing about Gus's game that you worry about "missing" by sitting him, and it's hard to envision a scenario where you're looking back at the situation and saying "man, we really gave that one away by playing Jones over Gus".
Not to mention the fact that Jones played really, really well in his extended look due to injuries and that this is an opportunity to get playoff experience for a guy who should be very much in the plan to slide into Gus' spot when they let him walk in FA (which they definitely should).
I agree 100% with this. One of the things the Rangers have struggled with is getting the puck out of their own end. Jones is a good puck mover with mobility, and can easily take Gus's place on PP2 as well. Jones and Trouba have also played very well together in their limited run together.
Or, if Chytil can't go Thursday, maybe you go 11F/7D. Rempe can't play in Raleigh, Brodzinski is a marginal NHL player. Jones has an element to his game that is legitimately an area where they struggle. I'm not usually a fan of 11F/7D, but I think it makes sense if Chytil isn't able to play.
I think that is low, seeing as the Trouba goal is the 1 high danger chance on Clear Sight. They had other chances. Not many, but they did have more than the 1. Natural Stat Trick had it 13-5 Carolina in HDCF, which I think is more in line with what I saw.
The Wennberg line was a great shutdown line for the first few games, and was effective on the forecheck, but that has not been the case the past few games. I had written Chytil off for this season, but at this point, I am not sure how far they can go without injecting some offensive production to the bottom 6.
I currently have six tabs open looking at tickets for Thursday night.
Jacob Trouba
Brett I have backed you 100%. If you don't bring home Game 6, I'll take Game 7.
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So who's starting Thursday's thread?
Brett I have backed you 100%. If you don't bring home Game 6, I'll take Game 7.
You got it.
Golden Knights win series, 4-2
Game 1: Golden Knights 4, Stars 3 (OT)
Game 2: Golden Knights 3, Stars 2 (OT)
Game 3: Golden Knights 4, Stars 0
Game 4: Stars 3, Golden Knights 2 (OT)
Game 5: Stars 4, Golden Knights 2
Game 6: Golden Knights 6, Stars 0
So.. you doomers. Man the hell up, grab your pair and lets handle business this Thursday. Rangers in 6.
Golden Knights win series, 4-2
Game 1: Golden Knights 4, Stars 3 (OT)
Game 2: Golden Knights 3, Stars 2 (OT)
Game 3: Golden Knights 4, Stars 0
Game 4: Stars 3, Golden Knights 2 (OT)
Game 5: Stars 4, Golden Knights 2
Game 6: Golden Knights 6, Stars 0
So.. you doomers. Man the hell up, grab your pair and lets handle business this Thursday. Rangers in 6.
Love it, it can be hard to be positive after losing 2 elimination games in a row, but it's a good reminder that just last year, the eventual Cup winners did just that. I think I'm going to throw money down on Rangers -1.5 Thursday!
-13 times the team won in 6
-4 times the team won in 7
-4 times the team lost in 7
-13 times the team won in 6
-4 times the team won in 7
-4 times the team lost in 7
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-13 times the team won in 6
-5 times the team won in 7
-4 times the team lost in 7