Only two teams with obvious needs there, this early? LVR and NYG. Not as strong a class, but I like both Beck and Ewers. Dubious about Sanders right now, most especially because of his father (who's still a douche). But it's still early.
Only two teams with obvious needs there, this early? LVR and NYG. Not as strong a class, but I like both Beck and Ewers. Dubious about Sanders right now, most especially because of his father (who's still a douche). But it's still early.
Dart, Ward, and Donovan Smith are also on my radar of guys I am going to try and prioritize viewing next fall. What are your thoughts? Note, I am purposely naming guys not in the five you listed in the video.
at either Jax St or Colorado. And he never called plays.
Keep in mind, too, Sanders got so beat up by the worst OL I saw in college in 2023 that he broke his back. And they aren't sure when it actually happened.
Totally agree about Milroe. He looks like a TE or Will LB playing QB. A great physical runner in the mold of Josh Allen. I think it was good he didn't transfer when Saban left and DeBoer will get a chance to work with him.
Thanks David for the advance look at the QB’s
I see good things in Beck, Milroe and Ewers but not enough to be excited.
I was on the Milroe bandwagon last season until the Michigan game. He had a poor game against Michigan’s defense…. But then again, so did Penix.
As you stated , other names emerge as the season gets going.
and quite frankly we have zero idea how this class will shake out.. I think there will be opportunities to get guys mid late Rd 1 and rd 2 this coming year because so many QB's were drafted this year and last year..
I work with my head down and my head phones on. It helps to have something to listen to while at work, so thank you, seriously. & if you ever got into doing longer videos, talking more ball, I would 100% listen and I’m sure a lot of people will as well.
WR summer preview next? & if I may, right now, who you drafting first Burden III or Tet McMillan?
Not much on Dart, Jackson Arnold (he might not be eligible) or Allar. The latter can make a big jump if he gets some OL/WR help and cuts loose a bit more. Look at his TD/nt ratio last year along with his size.
I know there is a lot of football to be played, but if things go the way many expect, the Giants in 2025 may still be trotting Jones out there, or overdrafting a weak QB prospect out of desperation.
If Jones is injured again, I think there is a very real chance they will go the free agent route for a 2-3 year solution.
I want to see if he makes progress or is he more like the guy we saw at Wisconsin
Excellent call. Far better prospect than Howard.
Thanks. Part of the reason why I have warmed to the Nabers pick is, although there is nobody of Caleb Williams's hype, there are more names that strike me as the potential to be better than JJ McCarthy level than we were looking at in, say, the 2022 Draft.
I know there is a lot of football to be played, but if things go the way many expect, the Giants in 2025 may still be trotting Jones out there, or overdrafting a weak QB prospect out of desperation.
If Jones is injured again, I think there is a very real chance they will go the free agent route for a 2-3 year solution.
Those free agents will continue to get locked up though. It might be Dak.
I was not impressed with his play at Wisconsin.
But I became interested in him last year after the South Carolina game.
He was great.
He has some Mahomes in his game.
He always looks to throw the ball, runs to extend plays, and throws from a variety of platforms.
Mertz has great form and footwork.
However, I have some concerns that there are times when his ball tends to tail or fade. This happens when there is not enough zip on the throw. I don't know if he has the prerequisite skills to play in the NFL. He appears to be a less-than-average athlete.
He trails the top QBs and this year will be crucial for him. Link - ( New Window )
I work with my head down and my head phones on. It helps to have something to listen to while at work, so thank you, seriously. & if you ever got into doing longer videos, talking more ball, I would 100% listen and I’m sure a lot of people will as well.
WR summer preview next? & if I may, right now, who you drafting first Burden III or Tet McMillan?
Sy has already said McMillian has a higher ceiling than any WR from this past draft. McMillan might be his highest ranked player next year.
I was not impressed with his play at Wisconsin.
But I became interested in him last year after the South Carolina game.
He was great.
He has some Mahomes in his game.
He always looks to throw the ball, runs to extend plays, and throws from a variety of platforms.
Mertz has great form and footwork.
However, I have some concerns that there are times when his ball tends to tail or fade. This happens when there is not enough zip on the throw. I don't know if he has the prerequisite skills to play in the NFL. He appears to be a less-than-average athlete.
He trails the top QBs and this year will be crucial for him. Link - ( New Window )
I forget if it was South Carolina game or not, but when I was doing more research on Pearsall there were aspects of Mertz's game that stood out to me as someone just on the watch list for next year.
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A Veteran SEC defensive coordinator on Carson Beck:
“I think he’ll be the No. 1 overall pick. A few things really stood out to me after playing him. He runs better than you think because he doesn’t do it often and he has such a quick release. He gets rid of it fast as s—. And he’s really intelligent. He’s one of the few quarterbacks who doesn’t look to the sidelines all the time. We were showing 0 (blitz) and he got them into a little quick screen. He’s really impressive.”
At the Elite 11 camp in Las Vegas where he set a SPARQ score record for quarterbacks by posting a 133.56. He accomplished that feat by recording a 4.64 time in the 40-yard dash and a 4.19 time in the shuttle. He also threw a 45.5 power ball and posted a 38.3-inch vertical.
Only two teams with obvious needs there, this early? LVR and NYG. Not as strong a class, but I like both Beck and Ewers. Dubious about Sanders right now, most especially because of his father (who's still a douche). But it's still early.
I like Deon but I think he s hurting his son draft wise. Teams will stay away in my opinion.
5/16 & we're talking about next spring's QB class.
2024 NY Giants...FEEL THE EXCITEMENT!!!!
A few days before the draft, I was going to start a thread saying I was looking forward to fresh start at QB - a new QB, moving on from Jones, and not having to think about a QB replacement ideas for two years.
I'm like 'Can't wait for the season to start...'/insert eye roll emoji. I can't recall a season I've been less enthused about in awhile...maybe the mid '90s? & before people dunk on me, yeah...I'm going to watch the games/I'm not a fair weather fan, but my enthusiasm level for this coming year is below the ground. I hope I'm wrong & we surprise the world, but I'm sure AF not expecting it.
I'm like 'Can't wait for the season to start...'/insert eye roll emoji. I can't recall a season I've been less enthused about in awhile...maybe the mid '90s? & before people dunk on me, yeah...I'm going to watch the games/I'm not a fair weather fan, but my enthusiasm level for this coming year is below the ground. I hope I'm wrong & we surprise the world, but I'm sure AF not expecting it.
Then don’t fucking watch. Holy shit.
If you can’t look forward to see what our young defense can do, see what Nabers can bring to the table, and eee if the new OL pieces pan out - then maybe you are a fair weather fan.
Your obsession with me is remarkable. You don't like me/my posts...cool, take a #. That's fine dude. You don't have to respond. How about I don't respond to you & you don't respond to me? Deal?
2014 and 2015 rosters were in much worse condition than the current group.
It helped they had Eli freaking Manning but he was wasted nonetheless. Defensively, they were starting fringe guys. Offensive players they relied on were non-starters on other teams.
Your obsession with me is remarkable. You don't like me/my posts...cool, take a #. That's fine dude. You don't have to respond. How about I don't respond to you & you don't respond to me? Deal?
As long as you continue to hijack threads with your same tone and attitude- I’ll feel free to respond. Thank you though.
There’s more to life than obsessing over Daniel Jones.
Only two teams with obvious needs there, this early? LVR and NYG. Not as strong a class, but I like both Beck and Ewers. Dubious about Sanders right now, most especially because of his father (who's still a douche). But it's still early.
But there are a lot of Teams that may jump at the chance for a QB- because their QB for example are getting old or just aren't good or they are stuck in rebuild.
1--- Jets
2--- Steelers
3--- Tennesseee
4--- Rams
5--- Saints
6--- Seahawks
7--- Tampa Bay .
The '15 team was weirdly competitive despite the lack of elite talent. They lost a lot of games that fall that still bug me: Week 1 in Dallas, Week 2 vs. Atlanta, that game in NOLA, the WFT game in DC, the Jets game, the Beckham vs. Norman game...& the one that took the cake IMO...the Pats game. If Collins doesn't try to make that absurd leap for an INT, DRC is right there to pick it off. Game over.
They are a year away and a lot can happen in that time. While there may not be anyone of Caleb Williams’s hype, there are a number of options who appear to have the potential to be better than the QB’s who were available to the Giants at 6th overall pick this year. This is especially true if the Giants are as bad as people like Lombardi think they will be. Of course the QB options could also fall flat this upcoming season because of their respective issues. Many of the names in the 2024 Draft class were not talked about as highly as they went if you look back at May 17, 2023.
There may not be any in the range of QB 1-3 this past year, but odds are one or more will emerge that's every bit the prospect of QB 4-6. If there was an elite prospect in the class, unlikely we'd be in position to draft him anyway.
Only two teams with obvious needs there, this early? LVR and NYG. Not as strong a class, but I like both Beck and Ewers. Dubious about Sanders right now, most especially because of his father (who's still a douche). But it's still early.
not counting Arch (he's not coming out), I counted 15 QBs mentioned. That is a lot. Some will flame out, some will be late round picks, but some will rise, and others may come on the scene.
This jives with my early opinion of next year's draft re QBs: it is deep. It may not hold a player the level of Caleb Williams, though at this point who knows if he lives up to the hype. But the Giants should have plenty of options in the top couple rounds to get a QB next year. There may not be the top end as '24 (and let's be real, some of those guys were late risers), but I think there will be a lot more quality depth. And with that comes many options for QBs to stand out.
Arm talent is pretty high level, but there is a nonchalance to his game that is a bit of a turn-off.
Sy is right about the Alabama game last year in Tuscaloosa. Ewers was awesome.
Ewers had a lot of really good games. Stats were 3,479 yds, 22 TDs, 6 Ints, 78+ QBR
I'm not excited about Ewers. Maybe I am just unlucky but every time I watch him play (son goes to UT) he makes beautiful passes followed by boneheaded decisions. I feel like his WRs bail him out a bit too.
There may not be any in the range of QB 1-3 this past year, but odds are one or more will emerge that's every bit the prospect of QB 4-6. If there was an elite prospect in the class, unlikely we'd be in position to draft him anyway.
That is my take on the class as well although there are a few that I think have the potential to be graded higher than Drake Maye. Milroe has Penix's coaching staff from Washington so you will be able to see those two in as close to a side to side comparison as you will get. What makes this class tougher is that the odds of your or my scenarios are about as good as this class falling flat on their collective face and we have a draft that looks like 2022.
not counting Arch (he's not coming out), I counted 15 QBs mentioned. That is a lot. Some will flame out, some will be late round picks, but some will rise, and others may come on the scene.
This jives with my early opinion of next year's draft re QBs: it is deep. It may not hold a player the level of Caleb Williams, though at this point who knows if he lives up to the hype. But the Giants should have plenty of options in the top couple rounds to get a QB next year. There may not be the top end as '24 (and let's be real, some of those guys were late risers), but I think there will be a lot more quality depth. And with that comes many options for QBs to stand out.
Arm talent is pretty high level, but there is a nonchalance to his game that is a bit of a turn-off.
Sy is right about the Alabama game last year in Tuscaloosa. Ewers was awesome.
Ewers had a lot of really good games. Stats were 3,479 yds, 22 TDs, 6 Ints, 78+ QBR
I'm not excited about Ewers. Maybe I am just unlucky but every time I watch him play (son goes to UT) he makes beautiful passes followed by boneheaded decisions. I feel like his WRs bail him out a bit too.
I'm a fan of Ewers, and I thinking more year of college will be a big benefit to him.
Intrigues me 6’5” and 242 lbs and is tough and durable. I did not know who he was until today, but I will be checking him out at Ohio State this year. Thank you Sy.
Caleb and Maye were considered to be locks for picks 1 and 2 at this time last year. Penix was also on the radar of just finishing the season without injury, but a monster year. Nix had also just put up a big year and people were curious to see it again. JJM was probably the Carson Beck of the group flashing a lot as first time starter. Jayden Daniels is the one that really moved up after a good JR year, but nothing like his last year.
more people don't talk about Will Rogers. He is on Washington and it sucks his coach left for Alabama. It would have been nice to see him have another monster year.
Caleb and Maye were considered to be locks for picks 1 and 2 at this time last year. Penix was also on the radar of just finishing the season without injury, but a monster year. Nix had also just put up a big year and people were curious to see it again. JJM was probably the Carson Beck of the group flashing a lot as first time starter. Jayden Daniels is the one that really moved up after a good JR year, but nothing like his last year.
McCarthy was a Day 2 guy up until the college playoffs. Nix was like where Graham Mertz is now. Had his best year after not looking any better than Day 3 at a prior program so you wanted to see where he would go. Penix was more on the radar, but not really a guy you had in the Williams/Maye tier. Riley Leonard was also talked about a lot. Sam Hartman and Spencer Rattler were also on watch lists. Nobody really mentioned Daniels. Michael Pratt also was getting some hype (although lesser than the others) since Tulane had knocked off USC.
Caleb and Maye were considered to be locks for picks 1 and 2 at this time last year. Penix was also on the radar of just finishing the season without injury, but a monster year. Nix had also just put up a big year and people were curious to see it again. JJM was probably the Carson Beck of the group flashing a lot as first time starter. Jayden Daniels is the one that really moved up after a good JR year, but nothing like his last year.
McCarthy was a Day 2 guy up until the college playoffs. Nix was like where Graham Mertz is now. Had his best year after not looking any better than Day 3 at a prior program so you wanted to see where he would go. Penix was more on the radar, but not really a guy you had in the Williams/Maye tier. Riley Leonard was also talked about a lot. Sam Hartman and Spencer Rattler were also on watch lists. Nobody really mentioned Daniels. Michael Pratt also was getting some hype (although lesser than the others) since Tulane had knocked off USC.
Nix was in a better spot than Graham Mertz as he was really good in his first year at Oregon. I can see the comparison though.
At one point last year JJM was off to a great start with 18 TDs in his first 8 games and only INTs in the one Bowling Green game. He was averaging well over 200 yards per game and that is the first people were like ok JJM we see you. He finished slow though. He only threw 4 TDs in his last 7 games and people put him in the 2nd day, however his start was really good and people were moving him up.
No one was in the pre 2023 season Caleb/Maye tier and there isn't one now. From the start of the year that is. Carson Beck is the closest to that.
Caleb and Maye were considered to be locks for picks 1 and 2 at this time last year. Penix was also on the radar of just finishing the season without injury, but a monster year. Nix had also just put up a big year and people were curious to see it again. JJM was probably the Carson Beck of the group flashing a lot as first time starter. Jayden Daniels is the one that really moved up after a good JR year, but nothing like his last year.
McCarthy was a Day 2 guy up until the college playoffs. Nix was like where Graham Mertz is now. Had his best year after not looking any better than Day 3 at a prior program so you wanted to see where he would go. Penix was more on the radar, but not really a guy you had in the Williams/Maye tier. Riley Leonard was also talked about a lot. Sam Hartman and Spencer Rattler were also on watch lists. Nobody really mentioned Daniels. Michael Pratt also was getting some hype (although lesser than the others) since Tulane had knocked off USC. KDavies did a great job summarizing my thoughts about the 2025 class as of now.
Nix was in a better spot than Graham Mertz as he was really good in his first year at Oregon. I can see the comparison though.
At one point last year JJM was off to a great start with 18 TDs in his first 8 games and only INTs in the one Bowling Green game. He was averaging well over 200 yards per game and that is the first people were like ok JJM we see you. He finished slow though. He only threw 4 TDs in his last 7 games and people put him in the 2nd day, however his start was really good and people were moving him up.
No one was in the pre 2023 season Caleb/Maye tier and there isn't one now. From the start of the year that is. Carson Beck is the closest to that.
I am talking about where they were in May 2023. McCarthy if he was even talked about was more of a Day 2 guy at that point and that was only because of how much Michigan won with him at QB. I realize the comparisons won't be exact, but trying to get as close as possible to those in this year's crop so people have a better idea.
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Caleb and Maye were considered to be locks for picks 1 and 2 at this time last year. Penix was also on the radar of just finishing the season without injury, but a monster year. Nix had also just put up a big year and people were curious to see it again. JJM was probably the Carson Beck of the group flashing a lot as first time starter. Jayden Daniels is the one that really moved up after a good JR year, but nothing like his last year.
McCarthy was a Day 2 guy up until the college playoffs. Nix was like where Graham Mertz is now. Had his best year after not looking any better than Day 3 at a prior program so you wanted to see where he would go. Penix was more on the radar, but not really a guy you had in the Williams/Maye tier. Riley Leonard was also talked about a lot. Sam Hartman and Spencer Rattler were also on watch lists. Nobody really mentioned Daniels. Michael Pratt also was getting some hype (although lesser than the others) since Tulane had knocked off USC. KDavies did a great job summarizing my thoughts about the 2025 class as of now.
Nix was in a better spot than Graham Mertz as he was really good in his first year at Oregon. I can see the comparison though.
At one point last year JJM was off to a great start with 18 TDs in his first 8 games and only INTs in the one Bowling Green game. He was averaging well over 200 yards per game and that is the first people were like ok JJM we see you. He finished slow though. He only threw 4 TDs in his last 7 games and people put him in the 2nd day, however his start was really good and people were moving him up.
No one was in the pre 2023 season Caleb/Maye tier and there isn't one now. From the start of the year that is. Carson Beck is the closest to that.
I am talking about where they were in May 2023. McCarthy if he was even talked about was more of a Day 2 guy at that point and that was only because of how much Michigan won with him at QB. I realize the comparisons won't be exact, but trying to get as close as possible to those in this year's crop so people have a better idea.
That is true...although I don't think most people were thinking McCarthy was coming out in this draft at that time. Most thought he would be a 2025 QB and he was being talked about being a high draft choice in that draft.
I'm like 'Can't wait for the season to start...'/insert eye roll emoji. I can't recall a season I've been less enthused about in awhile...maybe the mid '90s? & before people dunk on me, yeah...I'm going to watch the games/I'm not a fair weather fan, but my enthusiasm level for this coming year is below the ground. I hope I'm wrong & we surprise the world, but I'm sure AF not expecting it.
I just cannot spend that much time dwelling on the QBs at this time of the year.
It really wears everyone down reading the same shit over and over. Yeah, yeah yeah - then don't read it. BS - take a break. Don't repeat yourselves several times per day. I would like to read about the prospects without seeing the whining.
We all want a new QB. We all know Jones ain't it. The rest of us are just not infatuated enough to excoriate him at every opportunity, because it is not necessary. We all know he is brutally mediocre.
I work with my head down and my head phones on. It helps to have something to listen to while at work, so thank you, seriously. & if you ever got into doing longer videos, talking more ball, I would 100% listen and I’m sure a lot of people will as well.
WR summer preview next? & if I may, right now, who you drafting first Burden III or Tet McMillan?
Intrigues me 6’5” and 242 lbs and is tough and durable. I did not know who he was until today, but I will be checking him out at Ohio State this year. Thank you Sy.
I agree, out of everyone in the vid, Howard is the one I find most intriguing.
A far cry from this year's class, at least on paper.
Is that we know he is never going to take us to where every team ultimately wants to go. Eli manning proved that the right team, gelling at the right time, can win it all and even though we had a bunch of bad seasons sprinkled in, at any point it could all turn around for the better. Cause it happened, he did it twice! Jones will never be able to do that for us so when people say they aren’t enthused about the upcoming season I get it. The outcome is inevitable. Maybe he takes us to the playoffs, maybe we win 4 games. Doesn’t matter cause at the end of the day we have no shot at the real outcome we all want
Sanders' aura smells like the Ball family (NBA)
Keep in mind, too, Sanders got so beat up by the worst OL I saw in college in 2023 that he broke his back. And they aren't sure when it actually happened.
Totally agree about Milroe. He looks like a TE or Will LB playing QB. A great physical runner in the mold of Josh Allen. I think it was good he didn't transfer when Saban left and DeBoer will get a chance to work with him.
I see good things in Beck, Milroe and Ewers but not enough to be excited.
I was on the Milroe bandwagon last season until the Michigan game. He had a poor game against Michigan’s defense…. But then again, so did Penix.
As you stated , other names emerge as the season gets going.
Remember form Giants coach Shurmur at Colorado.
Giants will move towards 1st and 3rd QB.
The rest are questionable.
Excellent call. Far better prospect than Howard.
WR summer preview next? & if I may, right now, who you drafting first Burden III or Tet McMillan?
If Jones is injured again, I think there is a very real chance they will go the free agent route for a 2-3 year solution.
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I want to see if he makes progress or is he more like the guy we saw at Wisconsin
Excellent call. Far better prospect than Howard.
Thanks. Part of the reason why I have warmed to the Nabers pick is, although there is nobody of Caleb Williams's hype, there are more names that strike me as the potential to be better than JJ McCarthy level than we were looking at in, say, the 2022 Draft.
If Jones is injured again, I think there is a very real chance they will go the free agent route for a 2-3 year solution.
Those free agents will continue to get locked up though. It might be Dak.
I was not impressed with his play at Wisconsin.
But I became interested in him last year after the South Carolina game.
He was great.
He has some Mahomes in his game.
He always looks to throw the ball, runs to extend plays, and throws from a variety of platforms.
Mertz has great form and footwork.
However, I have some concerns that there are times when his ball tends to tail or fade. This happens when there is not enough zip on the throw. I don't know if he has the prerequisite skills to play in the NFL. He appears to be a less-than-average athlete.
He trails the top QBs and this year will be crucial for him.
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WR summer preview next? & if I may, right now, who you drafting first Burden III or Tet McMillan?
Sy has already said McMillian has a higher ceiling than any WR from this past draft. McMillan might be his highest ranked player next year.
I was not impressed with his play at Wisconsin.
But I became interested in him last year after the South Carolina game.
He was great.
He has some Mahomes in his game.
He always looks to throw the ball, runs to extend plays, and throws from a variety of platforms.
Mertz has great form and footwork.
However, I have some concerns that there are times when his ball tends to tail or fade. This happens when there is not enough zip on the throw. I don't know if he has the prerequisite skills to play in the NFL. He appears to be a less-than-average athlete.
He trails the top QBs and this year will be crucial for him. Link - ( New Window )
I forget if it was South Carolina game or not, but when I was doing more research on Pearsall there were aspects of Mertz's game that stood out to me as someone just on the watch list for next year.
Arm talent is pretty high level, but there is a nonchalance to his game that is a bit of a turn-off.
Sy is right about the Alabama game last year in Tuscaloosa. Ewers was awesome.
Normally I watch spring practice games out of curiosity.
Once in a while, something happens that is just special.
You have to watch Arch against the first-team defense.
Arch will be special. If I am the Giants I do everything possible to be in the position to draft him.
See the link below.....
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A Veteran SEC defensive coordinator on Carson Beck:
“I think he’ll be the No. 1 overall pick. A few things really stood out to me after playing him. He runs better than you think because he doesn’t do it often and he has such a quick release. He gets rid of it fast as s—. And he’s really intelligent. He’s one of the few quarterbacks who doesn’t look to the sidelines all the time. We were showing 0 (blitz) and he got them into a little quick screen. He’s really impressive.”
2024 NY Giants...FEEL THE EXCITEMENT!!!!
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He's looked bad every time I've seen him.
Arm talent is pretty high level, but there is a nonchalance to his game that is a bit of a turn-off.
Sy is right about the Alabama game last year in Tuscaloosa. Ewers was awesome.
Ewers had a lot of really good games. Stats were 3,479 yds, 22 TDs, 6 Ints, 78+ QBR
2024 NY Giants...FEEL THE EXCITEMENT!!!!
A few days before the draft, I was going to start a thread saying I was looking forward to fresh start at QB - a new QB, moving on from Jones, and not having to think about a QB replacement ideas for two years.
Instead...
Chapter Six of the Daniel Jones Experience. ;)
Ewers had a lot of really good games. Stats were 3,479 yds, 22 TDs, 6 Ints, 78+ QBR
He did, but the game in Tuscaloosa was his highwater mark..
Then don’t fucking watch. Holy shit.
If you can’t look forward to see what our young defense can do, see what Nabers can bring to the table, and eee if the new OL pieces pan out - then maybe you are a fair weather fan.
You’re obsession for Jones is truly remarkable.
It helped they had Eli freaking Manning but he was wasted nonetheless. Defensively, they were starting fringe guys. Offensive players they relied on were non-starters on other teams.
As long as you continue to hijack threads with your same tone and attitude- I’ll feel free to respond. Thank you though.
There’s more to life than obsessing over Daniel Jones.
But there are a lot of Teams that may jump at the chance for a QB- because their QB for example are getting old or just aren't good or they are stuck in rebuild.
1--- Jets
2--- Steelers
3--- Tennesseee
4--- Rams
5--- Saints
6--- Seahawks
7--- Tampa Bay .
No chance in hell the Giants take Sanders considering his old man.
Normally I watch spring practice games out of curiosity.
Once in a while, something happens that is just special.
You have to watch Arch against the first-team defense.
Arch will be special. If I am the Giants I do everything possible to be in the position to draft him.
See the link below..... Link - ( New Window )
Wow, I thought he was being overhyped because of the name. He looks really good!!!
Normally I watch spring practice games out of curiosity.
Once in a while, something happens that is just special.
You have to watch Arch against the first-team defense.
Arch will be special. If I am the Giants I do everything possible to be in the position to draft him.
See the link below..... Link - ( New Window )
After skipping Uncle Peyton and Eli, Grandpa Arch's speed and mobility gene finally re-surfaced...
You can tell everyone feels something is wrong.
You can tell everyone feels something is wrong.
Gee…when have I heard that before Rain Man
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May 2024 and we're all looking at the 2025 QBs.
You can tell everyone feels something is wrong.
Gee…when have I heard that before Rain Man
Can anyone tell me which dupe this is? It's right there bit I can't spot it. Driving me crazy.
Can anyone tell me which dupe this is? It's right there bit I can't spot it. Driving me crazy.
Let me reach out to Gatorade Dunk, who has a PhD in dupe detection.
Besides grammar and syntax, his other passion is dupe hunting... ;)
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May 2024 and we're all looking at the 2025 QBs.
You can tell everyone feels something is wrong.
Gee…when have I heard that before Rain Man
Can anyone tell me which dupe this is? It's right there bit I can't spot it. Driving me crazy.
Not a dupe
But do you not literally not repeat the same thing multiple times a day….every day….over and over and over again?
People can be fairly new here and easily deduce they your message board Tourette’s type of behavior is weird
They are a year away and a lot can happen in that time. While there may not be anyone of Caleb Williams’s hype, there are a number of options who appear to have the potential to be better than the QB’s who were available to the Giants at 6th overall pick this year. This is especially true if the Giants are as bad as people like Lombardi think they will be. Of course the QB options could also fall flat this upcoming season because of their respective issues. Many of the names in the 2024 Draft class were not talked about as highly as they went if you look back at May 17, 2023.
He didn't.
Mertz I don't see it - Dart can be a dude though
Weigman is going to be an interesting one to watch this year, kind of my x-factor.
I think Miller Moss can put his name in the conversation once the season starts.
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Only two teams with obvious needs there, this early? LVR and NYG. Not as strong a class, but I like both Beck and Ewers. Dubious about Sanders right now, most especially because of his father (who's still a douche). But it's still early.
Sanders' aura smells like the Ball family (NBA)
Yeah. I want NO part of him.
This jives with my early opinion of next year's draft re QBs: it is deep. It may not hold a player the level of Caleb Williams, though at this point who knows if he lives up to the hype. But the Giants should have plenty of options in the top couple rounds to get a QB next year. There may not be the top end as '24 (and let's be real, some of those guys were late risers), but I think there will be a lot more quality depth. And with that comes many options for QBs to stand out.
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He's looked bad every time I've seen him.
Arm talent is pretty high level, but there is a nonchalance to his game that is a bit of a turn-off.
Sy is right about the Alabama game last year in Tuscaloosa. Ewers was awesome.
Ewers had a lot of really good games. Stats were 3,479 yds, 22 TDs, 6 Ints, 78+ QBR
I'm not excited about Ewers. Maybe I am just unlucky but every time I watch him play (son goes to UT) he makes beautiful passes followed by boneheaded decisions. I feel like his WRs bail him out a bit too.
That is my take on the class as well although there are a few that I think have the potential to be graded higher than Drake Maye. Milroe has Penix's coaching staff from Washington so you will be able to see those two in as close to a side to side comparison as you will get. What makes this class tougher is that the odds of your or my scenarios are about as good as this class falling flat on their collective face and we have a draft that looks like 2022.
This jives with my early opinion of next year's draft re QBs: it is deep. It may not hold a player the level of Caleb Williams, though at this point who knows if he lives up to the hype. But the Giants should have plenty of options in the top couple rounds to get a QB next year. There may not be the top end as '24 (and let's be real, some of those guys were late risers), but I think there will be a lot more quality depth. And with that comes many options for QBs to stand out.
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He's looked bad every time I've seen him.
Arm talent is pretty high level, but there is a nonchalance to his game that is a bit of a turn-off.
Sy is right about the Alabama game last year in Tuscaloosa. Ewers was awesome.
Ewers had a lot of really good games. Stats were 3,479 yds, 22 TDs, 6 Ints, 78+ QBR
I'm not excited about Ewers. Maybe I am just unlucky but every time I watch him play (son goes to UT) he makes beautiful passes followed by boneheaded decisions. I feel like his WRs bail him out a bit too.
I'm a fan of Ewers, and I thinking more year of college will be a big benefit to him.
Caleb and Maye were considered to be locks for picks 1 and 2 at this time last year. Penix was also on the radar of just finishing the season without injury, but a monster year. Nix had also just put up a big year and people were curious to see it again. JJM was probably the Carson Beck of the group flashing a lot as first time starter. Jayden Daniels is the one that really moved up after a good JR year, but nothing like his last year.
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were on the radar at this time last year?
Caleb and Maye were considered to be locks for picks 1 and 2 at this time last year. Penix was also on the radar of just finishing the season without injury, but a monster year. Nix had also just put up a big year and people were curious to see it again. JJM was probably the Carson Beck of the group flashing a lot as first time starter. Jayden Daniels is the one that really moved up after a good JR year, but nothing like his last year.
McCarthy was a Day 2 guy up until the college playoffs. Nix was like where Graham Mertz is now. Had his best year after not looking any better than Day 3 at a prior program so you wanted to see where he would go. Penix was more on the radar, but not really a guy you had in the Williams/Maye tier. Riley Leonard was also talked about a lot. Sam Hartman and Spencer Rattler were also on watch lists. Nobody really mentioned Daniels. Michael Pratt also was getting some hype (although lesser than the others) since Tulane had knocked off USC.
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were on the radar at this time last year?
Caleb and Maye were considered to be locks for picks 1 and 2 at this time last year. Penix was also on the radar of just finishing the season without injury, but a monster year. Nix had also just put up a big year and people were curious to see it again. JJM was probably the Carson Beck of the group flashing a lot as first time starter. Jayden Daniels is the one that really moved up after a good JR year, but nothing like his last year.
McCarthy was a Day 2 guy up until the college playoffs. Nix was like where Graham Mertz is now. Had his best year after not looking any better than Day 3 at a prior program so you wanted to see where he would go. Penix was more on the radar, but not really a guy you had in the Williams/Maye tier. Riley Leonard was also talked about a lot. Sam Hartman and Spencer Rattler were also on watch lists. Nobody really mentioned Daniels. Michael Pratt also was getting some hype (although lesser than the others) since Tulane had knocked off USC.
Nix was in a better spot than Graham Mertz as he was really good in his first year at Oregon. I can see the comparison though.
At one point last year JJM was off to a great start with 18 TDs in his first 8 games and only INTs in the one Bowling Green game. He was averaging well over 200 yards per game and that is the first people were like ok JJM we see you. He finished slow though. He only threw 4 TDs in his last 7 games and people put him in the 2nd day, however his start was really good and people were moving him up.
No one was in the pre 2023 season Caleb/Maye tier and there isn't one now. From the start of the year that is. Carson Beck is the closest to that.
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were on the radar at this time last year?
Caleb and Maye were considered to be locks for picks 1 and 2 at this time last year. Penix was also on the radar of just finishing the season without injury, but a monster year. Nix had also just put up a big year and people were curious to see it again. JJM was probably the Carson Beck of the group flashing a lot as first time starter. Jayden Daniels is the one that really moved up after a good JR year, but nothing like his last year.
McCarthy was a Day 2 guy up until the college playoffs. Nix was like where Graham Mertz is now. Had his best year after not looking any better than Day 3 at a prior program so you wanted to see where he would go. Penix was more on the radar, but not really a guy you had in the Williams/Maye tier. Riley Leonard was also talked about a lot. Sam Hartman and Spencer Rattler were also on watch lists. Nobody really mentioned Daniels. Michael Pratt also was getting some hype (although lesser than the others) since Tulane had knocked off USC. KDavies did a great job summarizing my thoughts about the 2025 class as of now.
Nix was in a better spot than Graham Mertz as he was really good in his first year at Oregon. I can see the comparison though.
At one point last year JJM was off to a great start with 18 TDs in his first 8 games and only INTs in the one Bowling Green game. He was averaging well over 200 yards per game and that is the first people were like ok JJM we see you. He finished slow though. He only threw 4 TDs in his last 7 games and people put him in the 2nd day, however his start was really good and people were moving him up.
No one was in the pre 2023 season Caleb/Maye tier and there isn't one now. From the start of the year that is. Carson Beck is the closest to that.
I am talking about where they were in May 2023. McCarthy if he was even talked about was more of a Day 2 guy at that point and that was only because of how much Michigan won with him at QB. I realize the comparisons won't be exact, but trying to get as close as possible to those in this year's crop so people have a better idea.
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were on the radar at this time last year?
Caleb and Maye were considered to be locks for picks 1 and 2 at this time last year. Penix was also on the radar of just finishing the season without injury, but a monster year. Nix had also just put up a big year and people were curious to see it again. JJM was probably the Carson Beck of the group flashing a lot as first time starter. Jayden Daniels is the one that really moved up after a good JR year, but nothing like his last year.
McCarthy was a Day 2 guy up until the college playoffs. Nix was like where Graham Mertz is now. Had his best year after not looking any better than Day 3 at a prior program so you wanted to see where he would go. Penix was more on the radar, but not really a guy you had in the Williams/Maye tier. Riley Leonard was also talked about a lot. Sam Hartman and Spencer Rattler were also on watch lists. Nobody really mentioned Daniels. Michael Pratt also was getting some hype (although lesser than the others) since Tulane had knocked off USC. KDavies did a great job summarizing my thoughts about the 2025 class as of now.
Nix was in a better spot than Graham Mertz as he was really good in his first year at Oregon. I can see the comparison though.
At one point last year JJM was off to a great start with 18 TDs in his first 8 games and only INTs in the one Bowling Green game. He was averaging well over 200 yards per game and that is the first people were like ok JJM we see you. He finished slow though. He only threw 4 TDs in his last 7 games and people put him in the 2nd day, however his start was really good and people were moving him up.
No one was in the pre 2023 season Caleb/Maye tier and there isn't one now. From the start of the year that is. Carson Beck is the closest to that.
I am talking about where they were in May 2023. McCarthy if he was even talked about was more of a Day 2 guy at that point and that was only because of how much Michigan won with him at QB. I realize the comparisons won't be exact, but trying to get as close as possible to those in this year's crop so people have a better idea.
That is true...although I don't think most people were thinking McCarthy was coming out in this draft at that time. Most thought he would be a 2025 QB and he was being talked about being a high draft choice in that draft.
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Can anyone tell me which dupe this is? It's right there bit I can't spot it. Driving me crazy.
Let me reach out to Gatorade Dunk, who has a PhD in dupe detection.
Besides grammar and syntax, his other passion is dupe hunting... ;)
It’s uncanny how good he is at de-duping people. Few others here are good at it too. I on the other hand have absolutely no dupe radar skills.
I just cannot spend that much time dwelling on the QBs at this time of the year.
It really wears everyone down reading the same shit over and over. Yeah, yeah yeah - then don't read it. BS - take a break. Don't repeat yourselves several times per day. I would like to read about the prospects without seeing the whining.
We all want a new QB. We all know Jones ain't it. The rest of us are just not infatuated enough to excoriate him at every opportunity, because it is not necessary. We all know he is brutally mediocre.
My rant is over - for today. Thank you.
WR summer preview next? & if I may, right now, who you drafting first Burden III or Tet McMillan?
McMillan and I do not think it’s even close.
Jersey kid, 4/5 rated recruit out of HS. Ties to SU staff including former NYG running backs coach Nixon now Orange OC
6’3” 215 lbs pocket passer. Strong arm, quick release. Winner and a leader.
As an SU alum, I hope he kicks ass in the ACC
Mertz I don't see it - Dart can be a dude though
I like what I’ve seen from Dart
I agree, out of everyone in the vid, Howard is the one I find most intriguing.