beast this year with Hyatt and Nabers outside.. This could be a major breakout season for him, eating up S's and Lb'ers underneath as well as end rounds etc.
beast this year with Hyatt and Nabers outside.. This could be a major breakout season for him, eating up S's and Lb'ers underneath as well as end rounds etc.
beast this year with Hyatt and Nabers outside.. This could be a major breakout season for him, eating up S's and Lb'ers underneath as well as end rounds etc.
60-70 rec's, lots of move the chains catches..
Robinson had 60 recs with 29 first downs. His 2:1 catches to 1Ds was one of the highest in the league.
What I'd like to see is more YAC. But he played the dump off role last year. His average pass was caught 4 yards down the field. I hope they get the ball a little more upfield to him.
* It was great to see Daniel Jones out there on the field with his teammates working in individual and 7-on-7 portions of practice. He was moving well and had zip on his passes. Previously in the offseason, general manager Joe Schoen had mentioned that Jones could be doing non-team drills during OTAs, which is a good sign that recovery from his knee surgery is moving along.
* Evan Neal was moving well as he continues to return from offseason ankle surgery. He was working on his pass sets and lateral movement.
* The portion of individual offensive line drills I watched focused on the mental aspect of the position. They split the line into halves. One group featured Andrew Thomas, Jermaine Eluemunor and John Michael Schmitz working together to pick up different twists and stunts. The center had to call out the right protection based on how the defense was aligned, and then the trio had to pass off those movements to protect the quarterback.
* I also enjoyed watching defensive coordinator Shane Bowen install his system on the field. Similar to what was happening with the offensive line, he was making sure his defense knew what to do and how to react based on different formations and movements from the offense. He set up different formations with different personnel and different motions pre-snap and at the snap. It was up to the defense to make the proper calls and shift correctly to be in the right position to defend against what the offense was showing.
* Malik Nabers caught the first pass from Drew Lock during team drills to set up a potential run after the catch. He caught several other passes throughout practice. Jalin Hyatt caught a couple of in-cuts, one of which he turned up the field for what might have been a touchdown.
* The other potential touchdown in practice came from running back Devin Singletary on a short pass over the middle that he turned up field.
* Undrafted rookie cornerback Alex Johnson had the play of practice for the defense, picking off a pass just before it hit the ground. Rookie third-round pick Dru Phillips, another cornerback, had a pass break-up during 7-on-7 drills. Kayvon Thibodeaux also would have had a sack during a team drill.
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Interesting that they had Eluemunor with AT and JMS... that would imply he was working at LG.
You caught that too? Interesting... And look at the picture I just posted that seems to confirm...
surprising w/ runyan having said he prefers lg. would they'd rather settle the left side from day 1 and having the right side up in the air, as opposed to having both sides somewhat in flux.
I'm guessing this is Chatman... it's not Tomon Fox
surprising w/ runyan having said he prefers lg. would they'd rather settle the left side from day 1 and having the right side up in the air, as opposed to having both sides somewhat in flux.
My guess: right guard is not at all in flux, Runyan is penciled in there. He may prefer left guard, but his skill set screams right guard and I'm pretty sure that's the position he was signed to play (and also as insurance against Neal shitting the bed). At left guard, it will be a battle between Eluemunor and Ezeudu based on whose name is easier to spell. I think the Giants would prefer to see Ezeudu win it (by now they've become used to spelling his name and it has fewer letters).
I'm way more interested in going over stunts day 1. What a fuckin thought. Stunts have destroyed us for like a decade and it is like 90% communication. Love it.
beast this year with Hyatt and Nabers outside.. This could be a major breakout season for him, eating up S's and Lb'ers underneath as well as end rounds etc.
60-70 rec's, lots of move the chains catches..
Nice outlet WR put up Wes Welker like numbers that would be nice .... live up to the hype when drafted
beast this year with Hyatt and Nabers outside.. This could be a major breakout season for him, eating up S's and Lb'ers underneath as well as end rounds etc.
60-70 rec's, lots of move the chains catches..
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It’s hard to think of a guy who is 5-8 as a beast.
why would Runyan's skill set (good pass blocker/so-so run blocker) "scream" right guard?
I think the Giants prefer more athleticism at left guard, ergo spending an early 3rd round pick on Ezeudu, who I don't believe for a second they have given up on. And Runyan was moved from left guard to right guard (where he started for the past two seasons) by the Packers for a reason.
I think Runyan was signed to replace Glowinski and man the right guard position for the next four years (with McKethan as his current challenger). I think Eluemunor was signed as expensive insurance across several spots along the OL and also as competition for Ezeudu. Ideally (I think) we're looking at a starting OL from left to right of...
Thomas Ezeudu JMS Runyan Neal
beast this year with Hyatt and Nabers outside.. This could be a major breakout season for him, eating up S's and Lb'ers underneath as well as end rounds etc.
60-70 rec's, lots of move the chains catches..
Shades of Diggs & Cole Beasley in BUF. Daboll did a nice job playing them off eachother. And if you overcommit, Hyatt should be 1on1 on the backside.
at RG and Eleumenor at LG has me really scratching my head. And I'm not even saying Boo about Ezeudu at LT. Holy cannoli.
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At this point in time, it may be good to see how position flexible each of the guards are by putting them in their relative “weakest” position to make sure they can handle it if needed. I am expecting that Eleumenor is going to be practicing at both guards and both tackles, Runyon at both guard spots, Ezeudu at LT and both guard spots, and Neal at both tackle spots and maybe guard too. Everyone will have to settle in to their likely starting spots when the hitting starts, but right now they need to show their balance and footwork at various positions.
Stuff like this makes it easier to understand why they've been bad so long.
These guys barely practice anymore. And most of the time, when they actually do, it's musical chairs. That 40-0 game is still fresh in my mind. Absurd.
But They are going to have to win my trust through their actions. Talk is cheap.
I hope the smart people making decisions can quickly figure out what position is best for that player and then play the best guy…not just the guy who was drafted higher.
Stuff like this makes it easier to understand why they've been bad so long.
These guys barely practice anymore. And most of the time, when they actually do, it's musical chairs. That 40-0 game is still fresh in my mind. Absurd.
When are they supposed to figure out who plays where?
But They are going to have to win my trust through their actions. Talk is cheap.
I hope the smart people making decisions can quickly figure out what position is best for that player and then play the best guy…not just the guy who was drafted higher.
Let me give you a hint. No one cares if you trust them or not.
Practicing recognizing/picking up twists and stunts?
They keep pushing Ezeudu at LG. His athleticism would provide the best potential there. Do not like the LT talk and movement. He was abysmal there last year. I do feel Eluemenor would be good on either side but I feel his experience with Bricillo would help both Schmitz and Neal more.
It's May. Literally first practice. We have a new Oline coach. You think maybe he wants to get a few different looks at these guys in some spots before they lock them in somewhere and throw away the key?
It's May. Literally first practice. We have a new Oline coach. You think maybe he wants to get a few different looks at these guys in some spots before they lock them in somewhere and throw away the key?
I think it's fine to take a look at guys in different spots. But with guys like the FAs they brought in, these guys have both tape and personal preferences. At some point extended evaluation becomes lack of committment. The sooner these guys are in the right spots, the better.
It's May. Literally first practice. We have a new Oline coach. You think maybe he wants to get a few different looks at these guys in some spots before they lock them in somewhere and throw away the key?
I think it's fine to take a look at guys in different spots. But with guys like the FAs they brought in, these guys have both tape and personal preferences. At some point extended evaluation becomes lack of committment. The sooner these guys are in the right spots, the better.
agree this is not some 3rd round rookie projects.
these are veterans with 4-5 years in the league.
neal is in his 3rd year as wel.
if they are doing musical chairs deep into training camp, then its clear to me its daboll philosophy and not carmen bricillo or anyone else previously.
there is no more contact, practices are slim. preseason is shortnened.
for the worst OL in NFL history, everything is magnified and matter this offseason. every OTA/minicamp/training camp practice matters. preseason will matter a lot.
dallas turner, andrew van ginkel and greenard are no slouches in week 1. they will sack your QB.
Who likes to play musical chairs with the OL? It’s odd for a guy to say his best position is LG and start off on the right. There is a difference between right and left, it’s not just play the best 5. Some guys have a hard time adjusting to the other side.
I just hope that by training camp they get guys in their main spot and keep them there for the most part. Cross training should be more of the backups so you don’t upset the whole OL if a guy goes down
Last season during training camp with all of the moving around I think held the unit back from being comfortable by game 1. Benching Glowinski right off the bat should have been taken care of before the 1st game. The OL is a unit that works best when they all know what the guy next to them is doing. It needs time to be good. I think this is why other teams have OL go down and the 2nd stringer steps in and does well, because they practice that way. I’ve never seen such instability during practices like they did last year. Just let guys settle in and learn.
He's not in the pictures. (Probably the one position where they have the most guys covered in the pictures is WR. On the flip side, they don't take many pictures of the OLs and DLs).
If you know that either can be the backup at the other position you are less likely to keep a backup OG who can only play the position that your other starter can flip to. If Runyan is your starting LG, but he can be the backup RG in a pinch why keep someone around who can only play RG if you have a backup LG who might offer more versatility and/or upside?
Stuff like this makes it easier to understand why they've been bad so long.
These guys barely practice anymore. And most of the time, when they actually do, it's musical chairs. That 40-0 game is still fresh in my mind. Absurd.
The new OLC is likely trying to see everything that he can. Nothing wrong with a few days of film to evaluate their feet, lean, drive and overall tendencies from both sides of the line.
Who likes to play musical chairs with the OL? It’s odd for a guy to say his best position is LG and start off on the right. There is a difference between right and left, it’s not just play the best 5. Some guys have a hard time adjusting to the other side.
I just hope that by training camp they get guys in their main spot and keep them there for the most part. Cross training should be more of the backups so you don’t upset the whole OL if a guy goes down
Last season during training camp with all of the moving around I think held the unit back from being comfortable by game 1. Benching Glowinski right off the bat should have been taken care of before the 1st game. The OL is a unit that works best when they all know what the guy next to them is doing. It needs time to be good. I think this is why other teams have OL go down and the 2nd stringer steps in and does well, because they practice that way. I’ve never seen such instability during practices like they did last year. Just let guys settle in and learn.
I’m taking it on faith that Daboll is smart enough not to repeat his fuck-up with the O-line from last season which was really a double fuck-up: Joe Schoen believing he had enough horses upfront and Daboll moving the horses around from stable to stable.
Who likes to play musical chairs with the OL? It’s odd for a guy to say his best position is LG and start off on the right. There is a difference between right and left, it’s not just play the best 5. Some guys have a hard time adjusting to the other side.
Since he played all of last season at RG, putting him back at LG would be adjusting to the other side again. Eluemunor might be the deciding factor. Another curveball might be Evan Neal. He started at LG at Alabama. So if at some point they give up on him being a RT and Eluemunor is the backup plan, moving Neal to LG might already be in the back of their mind.
It seems some people have never followed offseason football
It's day 1 --no body has a hard fast spot yet outside of guys like Thomas. They brought in 5 Oline FAs who have experience in multiple spots, 2 undrafted guys, and they need to figure out what to do with a former number seven pick overall. All this with a new Oline coach who is getting his hands on these guys for the first time. If you follow any college football or any NFL football, the overwhelming majority of Oline do not have one fixed spot in their career. Even if you hadn't followed any offseason football to know how this works, simple logic would lead you to an obvious conclusion.
RE: It seems some people have never followed offseason football
It's day 1 --no body has a hard fast spot yet outside of guys like Thomas. They brought in 5 Oline FAs who have experience in multiple spots, 2 undrafted guys, and they need to figure out what to do with a former number seven pick overall. All this with a new Oline coach who is getting his hands on these guys for the first time. If you follow any college football or any NFL football, the overwhelming majority of Oline do not have one fixed spot in their career. Even if you hadn't followed any offseason football to know how this works, simple logic would lead you to an obvious conclusion.
That's definitely true, and a good post Uber, however based on track record and especially with last year still fresh in our minds, I think the reactions are... understandable... lol. They need to finally start moving in the right direction with the OL. We can't compete in the NFC East until the OL play is vastly better.
Its a brand new OL coach, who had a lot of success with the Raiders
another crappy team. He also knows Eluemanor from the Raiders. Its May, he probably knows exactly what Eluemanor can do and just wants to see what Runyon can do. Its early and since he's new I'm cutting him slack, I'm going to let him do his job
Yep. I agree. At the end of the day, really, whatever happens in the offseason --this staff is on the hook to produce results. There is absolutely reason to be skeptical, but ultimately that's how they'll be judged.
RE: Its a brand new OL coach, who had a lot of success with the Raiders
another crappy team. He also knows Eluemanor from the Raiders. Its May, he probably knows exactly what Eluemanor can do and just wants to see what Runyon can do. Its early and since he's new I'm cutting him slack, I'm going to let him do his job
Add to all the uncertainty of bad OL, multiple new guys, old guys re-habbing, new coach and new system, these early days are devoid of hitting and moving under fire, the kinds of physical stuff that will determine who plays where and how well they play. This jigsaw puzzle will not be put in place over night much as we might yearn for progress.
Stuff like this makes it easier to understand why they've been bad so long.
Do you really think you know better than the Giants coaching staff?
Did u watch the offensive line play last year? They don't get the benefit of the doubt after that debacle
assuming coaches know more is a big fallacy.
wasnt it eric who said its just a bunch of phys ed degrees going up against one another?
it was a clear mistake all their switching along the OL last training camp. they need to settle on a 5 and go through the offseason with a 5.
Assuming professionals that do this for a living know more than a bunch of nitwit fans sitting on their couches is a “fallacy”? Holy shitballs.
Coaches may or may not be successful. But I guarantee you that every single one of them know more about football on their worst days than your sorry, useless ass
a better run blocker since they generally pull the Guard to the right? It would appear that Runyan is not as good a run blocker as Elumenor and maybe that’s why Bricillo wants a look at them from those positions?! Just spit-balling here.
Stuff like this makes it easier to understand why they've been bad so long.
These guys barely practice anymore. And most of the time, when they actually do, it's musical chairs. That 40-0 game is still fresh in my mind. Absurd.
The new OLC is likely trying to see everything that he can. Nothing wrong with a few days of film to evaluate their feet, lean, drive and overall tendencies from both sides of the line.
That's fair, but if it was me, I'd start off by having everyone in their intended positions, then start to change things up a bit. Seems odd to have them "out of position" on the first day of practice IMO. I think chances are good these are their initial positions.
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Love the sleeves rolled up onto his shoulders. That's how I used to carry my cigarettes. He's probably holding them for Thibs.
60-70 rec's, lots of move the chains catches..
60-70 rec's, lots of move the chains catches..
Totally agree.
Seriously, AT looks like Trent Williams, an athletic beast.
60-70 rec's, lots of move the chains catches..
Robinson had 60 recs with 29 first downs. His 2:1 catches to 1Ds was one of the highest in the league.
What I'd like to see is more YAC. But he played the dump off role last year. His average pass was caught 4 yards down the field. I hope they get the ball a little more upfield to him.
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* It was great to see Daniel Jones out there on the field with his teammates working in individual and 7-on-7 portions of practice. He was moving well and had zip on his passes. Previously in the offseason, general manager Joe Schoen had mentioned that Jones could be doing non-team drills during OTAs, which is a good sign that recovery from his knee surgery is moving along.
* Evan Neal was moving well as he continues to return from offseason ankle surgery. He was working on his pass sets and lateral movement.
* The portion of individual offensive line drills I watched focused on the mental aspect of the position. They split the line into halves. One group featured Andrew Thomas, Jermaine Eluemunor and John Michael Schmitz working together to pick up different twists and stunts. The center had to call out the right protection based on how the defense was aligned, and then the trio had to pass off those movements to protect the quarterback.
* I also enjoyed watching defensive coordinator Shane Bowen install his system on the field. Similar to what was happening with the offensive line, he was making sure his defense knew what to do and how to react based on different formations and movements from the offense. He set up different formations with different personnel and different motions pre-snap and at the snap. It was up to the defense to make the proper calls and shift correctly to be in the right position to defend against what the offense was showing.
* Malik Nabers caught the first pass from Drew Lock during team drills to set up a potential run after the catch. He caught several other passes throughout practice. Jalin Hyatt caught a couple of in-cuts, one of which he turned up the field for what might have been a touchdown.
* The other potential touchdown in practice came from running back Devin Singletary on a short pass over the middle that he turned up field.
* Undrafted rookie cornerback Alex Johnson had the play of practice for the defense, picking off a pass just before it hit the ground. Rookie third-round pick Dru Phillips, another cornerback, had a pass break-up during 7-on-7 drills. Kayvon Thibodeaux also would have had a sack during a team drill.
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Interesting that they had Eluemunor with AT and JMS... that would imply he was working at LG.
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Interesting that they had Eluemunor with AT and JMS... that would imply he was working at LG.
You caught that too? Interesting... And look at the picture I just posted that seems to confirm...
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Interesting that they had Eluemunor with AT and JMS... that would imply he was working at LG.
You caught that too? Interesting... And look at the picture I just posted that seems to confirm...
surprising w/ runyan having said he prefers lg. would they'd rather settle the left side from day 1 and having the right side up in the air, as opposed to having both sides somewhat in flux.
Interesting that Ezeudu is at LT rather than G
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Interesting that Ezeudu is at LT rather than G
Thomas may be out of frame to his left.
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Interesting that they had Eluemunor with AT and JMS... that would imply he was working at LG.
You caught that too? Interesting... And look at the picture I just posted that seems to confirm...
That is quite interesting...complete opposite of what we would expect.
Man Brian Burns looks so quick... He is going to make a difference on this team.
I doubt it. There aren't any reporters there to report on it.
surprising w/ runyan having said he prefers lg. would they'd rather settle the left side from day 1 and having the right side up in the air, as opposed to having both sides somewhat in flux.
There are 90 players on the roster. They did not take pictures of every player. A ton of the OLs and most of the DLs were not pictured.
I agree... that screams LG
60-70 rec's, lots of move the chains catches..
Nice outlet WR put up Wes Welker like numbers that would be nice .... live up to the hype when drafted
60-70 rec's, lots of move the chains catches..
It’s hard to think of a guy who is 5-8 as a beast.
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#NYGiants Daniel Jones participated in 7-on-7s during the first day of closed-doors OTAs, per team reporter.
I've heard nothing but rave reviews about his on-field work during the first 2 phases of the offseason program. Throwing with accuracy and velocity.
I think Runyan was signed to replace Glowinski and man the right guard position for the next four years (with McKethan as his current challenger). I think Eluemunor was signed as expensive insurance across several spots along the OL and also as competition for Ezeudu. Ideally (I think) we're looking at a starting OL from left to right of...
Thomas Ezeudu JMS Runyan Neal
60-70 rec's, lots of move the chains catches..
Shades of Diggs & Cole Beasley in BUF. Daboll did a nice job playing them off eachother. And if you overcommit, Hyatt should be 1on1 on the backside.
At this point in time, it may be good to see how position flexible each of the guards are by putting them in their relative “weakest” position to make sure they can handle it if needed. I am expecting that Eleumenor is going to be practicing at both guards and both tackles, Runyon at both guard spots, Ezeudu at LT and both guard spots, and Neal at both tackle spots and maybe guard too. Everyone will have to settle in to their likely starting spots when the hitting starts, but right now they need to show their balance and footwork at various positions.
In pictures I also saw Stinnie at LG and Mayfield at RG. And Joshua Miles at LT.
These guys barely practice anymore. And most of the time, when they actually do, it's musical chairs. That 40-0 game is still fresh in my mind. Absurd.
I hope the smart people making decisions can quickly figure out what position is best for that player and then play the best guy…not just the guy who was drafted higher.
These guys barely practice anymore. And most of the time, when they actually do, it's musical chairs. That 40-0 game is still fresh in my mind. Absurd.
When are they supposed to figure out who plays where?
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I hope the smart people making decisions can quickly figure out what position is best for that player and then play the best guy…not just the guy who was drafted higher.
Let me give you a hint. No one cares if you trust them or not.
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Do you really think you know better than the Giants coaching staff?
No, but I think it's really important for an Offensive Line to gain cohesion. And they don't practice much anymore.
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Stuff like this makes it easier to understand why they've been bad so long.
Do you really think you know better than the Giants coaching staff?
I'm no expert, but the Giants' OL coaching staff has been a total clusterfuck. They they still carry that title until they prove otherwise.
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Stuff like this makes it easier to understand why they've been bad so long.
Do you really think you know better than the Giants coaching staff?
Did u watch the offensive line play last year? They don't get the benefit of the doubt after that debacle
Hopefully this time it does.
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Stuff like this makes it easier to understand why they've been bad so long.
Do you really think you know better than the Giants coaching staff?
Did u watch the offensive line play last year? They don't get the benefit of the doubt after that debacle
assuming coaches know more is a big fallacy.
wasnt it eric who said its just a bunch of phys ed degrees going up against one another?
it was a clear mistake all their switching along the OL last training camp. they need to settle on a 5 and go through the offseason with a 5.
I think it's fine to take a look at guys in different spots. But with guys like the FAs they brought in, these guys have both tape and personal preferences. At some point extended evaluation becomes lack of committment. The sooner these guys are in the right spots, the better.
assuming coaches know more is a big fallacy.
wasnt it eric who said its just a bunch of phys ed degrees going up against one another?
it was a clear mistake all their switching along the OL last training camp. they need to settle on a 5 and go through the offseason with a 5.
''There are no geniuses in our business,'' Fassel said. ''We're all P.E. majors coaching P.E. majors.''
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assuming coaches know more is a big fallacy.
wasnt it eric who said its just a bunch of phys ed degrees going up against one another?
it was a clear mistake all their switching along the OL last training camp. they need to settle on a 5 and go through the offseason with a 5.
''There are no geniuses in our business,'' Fassel said. ''We're all P.E. majors coaching P.E. majors.''
While I appreciate the self deprecating humor, there obviously are some geniuses in the business
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It's May. Literally first practice. We have a new Oline coach. You think maybe he wants to get a few different looks at these guys in some spots before they lock them in somewhere and throw away the key?
I think it's fine to take a look at guys in different spots. But with guys like the FAs they brought in, these guys have both tape and personal preferences. At some point extended evaluation becomes lack of committment. The sooner these guys are in the right spots, the better.
agree this is not some 3rd round rookie projects.
these are veterans with 4-5 years in the league.
neal is in his 3rd year as wel.
if they are doing musical chairs deep into training camp, then its clear to me its daboll philosophy and not carmen bricillo or anyone else previously.
there is no more contact, practices are slim. preseason is shortnened.
for the worst OL in NFL history, everything is magnified and matter this offseason. every OTA/minicamp/training camp practice matters. preseason will matter a lot.
dallas turner, andrew van ginkel and greenard are no slouches in week 1. they will sack your QB.
2022 11 games at RG, 6 at LG
2023 17 games at RG
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I just hope that by training camp they get guys in their main spot and keep them there for the most part. Cross training should be more of the backups so you don’t upset the whole OL if a guy goes down
Last season during training camp with all of the moving around I think held the unit back from being comfortable by game 1. Benching Glowinski right off the bat should have been taken care of before the 1st game. The OL is a unit that works best when they all know what the guy next to them is doing. It needs time to be good. I think this is why other teams have OL go down and the 2nd stringer steps in and does well, because they practice that way. I’ve never seen such instability during practices like they did last year. Just let guys settle in and learn.
2022 11 games at RG, 6 at LG
2023 17 games at RG
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He's played both. But he said his preference was LG. What's odd is I think Eluemunor said his preference was RG or RT.
I was just searching all the pictures and comments to ask the same question!
He's not in the pictures. (Probably the one position where they have the most guys covered in the pictures is WR. On the flip side, they don't take many pictures of the OLs and DLs).
These guys barely practice anymore. And most of the time, when they actually do, it's musical chairs. That 40-0 game is still fresh in my mind. Absurd.
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Stuff like this makes it easier to understand why they've been bad so long.
Do you really think you know better than the Giants coaching staff?
Did u watch the offensive line play last year? They don't get the benefit of the doubt after that debacle
assuming coaches know more is a big fallacy.
wasnt it eric who said its just a bunch of phys ed degrees going up against one another?
it was a clear mistake all their switching along the OL last training camp. they need to settle on a 5 and go through the offseason with a 5.
It seems that you are suggesting that settle without 1st watching and learning.
I just hope that by training camp they get guys in their main spot and keep them there for the most part. Cross training should be more of the backups so you don’t upset the whole OL if a guy goes down
Last season during training camp with all of the moving around I think held the unit back from being comfortable by game 1. Benching Glowinski right off the bat should have been taken care of before the 1st game. The OL is a unit that works best when they all know what the guy next to them is doing. It needs time to be good. I think this is why other teams have OL go down and the 2nd stringer steps in and does well, because they practice that way. I’ve never seen such instability during practices like they did last year. Just let guys settle in and learn.
I’m taking it on faith that Daboll is smart enough not to repeat his fuck-up with the O-line from last season which was really a double fuck-up: Joe Schoen believing he had enough horses upfront and Daboll moving the horses around from stable to stable.
Since he played all of last season at RG, putting him back at LG would be adjusting to the other side again. Eluemunor might be the deciding factor. Another curveball might be Evan Neal. He started at LG at Alabama. So if at some point they give up on him being a RT and Eluemunor is the backup plan, moving Neal to LG might already be in the back of their mind.
That's definitely true, and a good post Uber, however based on track record and especially with last year still fresh in our minds, I think the reactions are... understandable... lol. They need to finally start moving in the right direction with the OL. We can't compete in the NFC East until the OL play is vastly better.
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Stuff like this makes it easier to understand why they've been bad so long.
Do you really think you know better than the Giants coaching staff?
Did u watch the offensive line play last year? They don't get the benefit of the doubt after that debacle
assuming coaches know more is a big fallacy.
wasnt it eric who said its just a bunch of phys ed degrees going up against one another?
it was a clear mistake all their switching along the OL last training camp. they need to settle on a 5 and go through the offseason with a 5.
Assuming professionals that do this for a living know more than a bunch of nitwit fans sitting on their couches is a “fallacy”? Holy shitballs.
Coaches may or may not be successful. But I guarantee you that every single one of them know more about football on their worst days than your sorry, useless ass
That’s Brian Burns
That’s Brian Burns
dang, BBS, completely blanked on/forgot that. The player in the pic looked so trim, athletic and not like a front 7 guy.
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assuming coaches know more is a big fallacy.
wasnt it eric who said its just a bunch of phys ed degrees going up against one another?
it was a clear mistake all their switching along the OL last training camp. they need to settle on a 5 and go through the offseason with a 5.
''There are no geniuses in our business,'' Fassel said. ''We're all P.E. majors coaching P.E. majors.''
While I appreciate the self deprecating humor, there obviously are some geniuses in the business
Yeah, I was going to say not all P.E. majors are created equal. I still like the quote though. :)
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Stuff like this makes it easier to understand why they've been bad so long.
These guys barely practice anymore. And most of the time, when they actually do, it's musical chairs. That 40-0 game is still fresh in my mind. Absurd.
The new OLC is likely trying to see everything that he can. Nothing wrong with a few days of film to evaluate their feet, lean, drive and overall tendencies from both sides of the line.
That's fair, but if it was me, I'd start off by having everyone in their intended positions, then start to change things up a bit. Seems odd to have them "out of position" on the first day of practice IMO. I think chances are good these are their initial positions.