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New York Giants OTA Updates - Day Three (Media Access)

Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 7:12 am

Thursday, May 23

OTA #3 Access

Approx. 9:45 a.m. -- Defensive Assistants Available

Approx. 10:00 a.m. -- Head Coach Brian Daboll Available

10:15 a.m. – 12:15 p.m. -- Practice

Approx. 12:30 p.m. -- Players Available

Dear god, I'm begging the beats  
Biteymax22 : 5/23/2024 8:17 am : link
Give us more than just 36 different articles on Malik Nabers...

What do the other rookies and UDFA's look like, coaching style differences between Bricillo/Johnson and Bowen/Wink, anyone look better than expected? Anyone look worse? Is Aaron Robinson going to play this year?

Anyone feel free to add to the suggestions because some of them may read this.
OL is what I really want to read up on  
5BowlsSoon : 5/23/2024 8:36 am : link
Is Evan Neal healthy? Probably not…my gut tells me this pick may have been a waste. Hope not though…

I hope the coaches can play the best man at RT based on performance not draft choice. Elumanor is all right by me; don’t know about Neal. He might be too fragile both mentally and physically.

Also think Ezuedu may not be able to be successful on our team if we think he is anything but a guard. I’m hearing he is still be looked at as a tackle. Probably not a good idea.

Lastly, I’m not convinced a new OL Coach is the cure all for all our woes. I think many of our players are just inadequate. Maybe a reset is just what we needed. Maybe we should have drafted that highly touted OG in round 3 instead of Phillips.
RE: OL is what I really want to read up on  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 8:37 am : link
In comment 16522823 5BowlsSoon said:
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Is Evan Neal healthy? Probably not…my gut tells me this pick may have been a waste. Hope not though…

I hope the coaches can play the best man at RT based on performance not draft choice. Elumanor is all right by me; don’t know about Neal. He might be too fragile both mentally and physically.

Also think Ezuedu may not be able to be successful on our team if we think he is anything but a guard. I’m hearing he is still be looked at as a tackle. Probably not a good idea.

Lastly, I’m not convinced a new OL Coach is the cure all for all our woes. I think many of our players are just inadequate. Maybe a reset is just what we needed. Maybe we should have drafted that highly touted OG in round 3 instead of Phillips.


Neal was practicing at RT on Monday and Tuesday. We already know this.
the most interesting interview today  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 8:40 am : link
will probably be Charlie Bullen.
RE: Dear god, I'm begging the beats  
k2tampa : 5/23/2024 8:49 am : link
In comment 16522817 Biteymax22 said:
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Give us more than just 36 different articles on Malik Nabers...

What do the other rookies and UDFA's look like, coaching style differences between Bricillo/Johnson and Bowen/Wink, anyone look better than expected? Anyone look worse? Is Aaron Robinson going to play this year?

Anyone feel free to add to the suggestions because some of them may read this.


Think about this. You want one media source to do a story on Nabers and the others have to report on lesser players? Who decides which site gets the profile that the most people want to read and who gets the one about the backup kicker?
RE: RE: Dear god, I'm begging the beats  
Biteymax22 : 5/23/2024 8:51 am : link
In comment 16522835 k2tampa said:
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In comment 16522817 Biteymax22 said:


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Give us more than just 36 different articles on Malik Nabers...

What do the other rookies and UDFA's look like, coaching style differences between Bricillo/Johnson and Bowen/Wink, anyone look better than expected? Anyone look worse? Is Aaron Robinson going to play this year?

Anyone feel free to add to the suggestions because some of them may read this.



Think about this. You want one media source to do a story on Nabers and the others have to report on lesser players? Who decides which site gets the profile that the most people want to read and who gets the one about the backup kicker?


I think their clicks, which seem to be drastically dwindling are the decider, yet they haven't seemed to adjust.

If you want to take business away from a competitor, you have to do something different or better.
I may be wrong...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 9:16 am : link
but it seems to me that many of the reporters are concentrating more on developing their podcast/YT presence rather that create written content.

Also, depending on their respective moods, we tend to get more or less from their X/Twitter feeds. Dan Duggan is pretty good about updating 1st/2nd/3rd team lineups via X.
RE: the most interesting interview today  
Somers24 : 5/23/2024 9:35 am : link
In comment 16522826 Eric from BBI said:
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will probably be Charlie Bullen.


Interesting. Why do you say this?
RE: RE: the most interesting interview today  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 9:37 am : link
In comment 16522880 Somers24 said:
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In comment 16522826 Eric from BBI said:


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will probably be Charlie Bullen.



Interesting. Why do you say this?


He's the only new guy speaking today. He's in charge of two of the most important players on the team - Thibodeaux and Banks.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 9:38 am : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton

Threatening skies in East Rutherford as #NYGiants prepare to hit the practice field for OTA No. 3.

Defensive assistants coming up.

We'll see if practice shifts into the field house. Seems logical.
RE: RE: the most interesting interview today  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 9:47 am : link
In comment 16522880 Somers24 said:
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In comment 16522826 Eric from BBI said:


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will probably be Charlie Bullen.



Interesting. Why do you say this?


That said, holdovers Andre Patterson and Jerome Henderson are two of the best when it comes to answering questions.
RE: RE: RE: the most interesting interview today  
Somers24 : 5/23/2024 9:55 am : link
In comment 16522896 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16522880 Somers24 said:


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In comment 16522826 Eric from BBI said:


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will probably be Charlie Bullen.



Interesting. Why do you say this?



That said, holdovers Andre Patterson and Jerome Henderson are two of the best when it comes to answering questions.


Thanks Eric
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 9:57 am : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
@GiantInsider
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2m
Jerome Henderson :
“I want the rookies to touch the hot stove now. Now is the time to learn”

“I expect Flott to have a good year for us, look for him to really take off”
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 9:57 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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#Giants would start Deonte Banks and Cor’Dale Flott at cornerback if season started today, Jerome Henderson said.

Flott has ‘been tremendous’ and they are pushing each other
By the way  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:02 am : link
when I post the video of the Q&As with the defensive coaches later today, I really recommend watching it. The Q&As with the position coaches are usually very informative.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:03 am : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
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Daboll said Daniel Jones looks good. He’s making progress, which is why they got him into 7-on-7s. They’ll take it day by day with him.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:06 am : link
Patricia Traina
@Patricia_Traina
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DL Coach Andre Patterson said he’s been doing some work with the OLBs this year. Change from last year.
RE: ...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:06 am : link
In comment 16522915 Eric from BBI said:
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Patricia Traina
@Patricia_Traina
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DL Coach Andre Patterson said he’s been doing some work with the OLBs this year. Change from last year.


Very interesting development.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:07 am : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
@GiantInsider
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35s
Daboll: “This is a teaching camp, it’s May so we teach players many techniques “

Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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Brian Daboll says this is a ‘teaching camp’ in OTAs and ‘no roster spots are going to be made’ #Giants
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:08 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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Jon Runyan at RG today, Jermaine Eluemunor at LG today #Giants
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:08 am : link
Patricia Traina
@Patricia_Traina
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Runyan has been playing some right guard and Eluemunor is at LG.
Practices against BOTH Jets and Lions  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:09 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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#Giants vs #Lions joint practices here. One vs #Jets in Florham Park, Daboll said
No Slayton or Waller  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:09 am : link
Patricia Traina
@Patricia_Traina
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1m
Darren Waller and Darius Slayton are not here.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:11 am : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
@GiantInsider
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43s
Daboll says Darius Slayton and Darren Waller are not present today. No further updates on Waller.
RE: OL is what I really want to read up on  
SirYesSir : 5/23/2024 10:11 am : link
In comment 16522823 5BowlsSoon said:
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Is Evan Neal healthy? Probably not…my gut tells me this pick may have been a waste.



I don't mean to call you out on this...you're thoughts are super common here, but man.

Neal was a universally loved prospect, and is still a very young player. He doesn't have a track record of laziness or off field poor choices. He's had injuries both years that have impacted his mobility.

I'm not here to guarantee he's about to be a pro-bowler...I don't know that. But this idea that he's garbage and a total flop is just way too premature. Tired of everyone shitting on this player.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:11 am : link
Patricia Traina
@Patricia_Traina
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Daboll said there’s been
more cameras in Joe Schoen’s office this offseason for the Hard Knocks series.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:12 am : link
Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
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Asked Brian Daboll about where guys start this spring on the offensive line.

Jon Runyan Jr. will be at right guard today. Jermaine Eluemunor at left guard.

Evan Neal will take right tackle snaps.

#giants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:16 am : link
Patricia Traina
@Patricia_Traina
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3m
Daboll said they will start Evan Neal at RT in response to a question about him possibly getting work at guard.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:16 am : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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2m
Daboll said WR Darius Slayton (wants new contract) and TE Darren Waller (mulling retirement) haven’t been attending the voluntary program. No word on when he expects either to join the team.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:18 am : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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Daboll said Jermaine Eluemunor has been working at LG and Jon Runyan has been working at RG. He said the plan is for Evan Neal to focus on RT.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:18 am : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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Andre Patterson is working with the edge rushers alongside OLB coach Charlie Bullen, which is a change under Shane Bowen.
That’s in addition to Patterson’s responsibility as DL coach. Very smart to mesh DL-edge and add to plate of one of the best position coaches in the league
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:19 am : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
DL coach Andre Patterson said he’ll be doing some work with the edge rushers this season. He called that a “huge change.” Much different pass rush scheme now, with the front four counted on to produce most of the pressure compared to the more exotic blitz packages under Wink Martindale.
RE: ...  
logman : 5/23/2024 10:22 am : link
In comment 16522942 Eric from BBI said:
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Andre Patterson is working with the edge rushers alongside OLB coach Charlie Bullen, which is a change under Shane Bowen.
That’s in addition to Patterson’s responsibility as DL coach. Very smart to mesh DL-edge and add to plate of one of the best position coaches in the league


This is what I wanted to know. I love this.
Giants working  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:24 am : link
inside today due to weather.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:27 am : link
Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
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About to see Daniel Jones do 7-on-7 drills and more at today’s Giants practice. First look at him on the field post-ACL surgery and with Malik Nabers.

Coach Brian Daboll said his “movement skills have been good” so far. Will get to see in a few minutes.
RE: RE: RE: the most interesting interview today  
BigBlueShock : 5/23/2024 10:30 am : link
In comment 16522883 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16522880 Somers24 said:


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In comment 16522826 Eric from BBI said:


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will probably be Charlie Bullen.



Interesting. Why do you say this?



He's the only new guy speaking today. He's in charge of two of the most important players on the team - Thibodeaux and Banks.

I’m guessing you meant Burns?
BigBlueShock  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:32 am : link
yes
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:35 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
#Giants Brian Burns working hard as DL fly by your screen
https://x.com/rydunleavy/status/1793651334333465035 - ( New Window )
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:35 am : link
Paul Schwartz
@NYPost_Schwartz
Dexter Lawrence, defensive line drills, Giants OTA 3.
https://x.com/NYPost_Schwartz/status/1793651384694300855 - ( New Window )
Biggest current watches  
jvm52106 : 5/23/2024 10:35 am : link
Jones/Lock- obviously

Neal- perhaps the biggest one

CB opposite of Banks

Rookies- all

then for me:

Ojulari- because if he can stay healthy we can rotate 3 very good pass rushers at the opposition.
Damn Chatman is small  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:36 am : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
@GiantInsider
Small but powerful
https://x.com/GiantInsider/status/1793651824022732854 - ( New Window )
RE: Biggest current watches  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:36 am : link
In comment 16522971 jvm52106 said:
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Jones/Lock- obviously

Neal- perhaps the biggest one

CB opposite of Banks

Rookies- all

then for me:

Ojulari- because if he can stay healthy we can rotate 3 very good pass rushers at the opposition.


There is no contact so you won't get anything from the DLs and OLs other than where they are lining up.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:37 am : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
@GiantInsider
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1m
Riley has trimmed down a bit

RE: RE: Biggest current watches  
jvm52106 : 5/23/2024 10:38 am : link
In comment 16522975 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16522971 jvm52106 said:


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Jones/Lock- obviously

Neal- perhaps the biggest one

CB opposite of Banks

Rookies- all

then for me:

Ojulari- because if he can stay healthy we can rotate 3 very good pass rushers at the opposition.



There is no contact so you won't get anything from the DLs and OLs other than where they are lining up.


sorry I meant this offseason, camp overall..
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:39 am : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper @GiantInsider

Dex
https://x.com/GiantInsider/status/1793652741325439068 - ( New Window )
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:40 am : link
Patricia Traina
@Patricia_Traina
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DL Elijah Chatman is the shortest of the DL but he is so quick off the snap.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:43 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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52s
Daniel Jones throwing in 7 on 7 #Giants #nygiants
https://x.com/rydunleavy/status/1793653487332639144 - ( New Window )
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:44 am : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
#NYGiants defensive line drills
https://x.com/art_stapleton/status/1793653241281974703 - ( New Window )
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:45 am : link
Charlotte Carroll
@charlottecrrll
Daniel Jones to Malik Nabers at #Giants OTAs
https://x.com/charlottecrrll/status/1793653939793018949 - ( New Window )
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:47 am : link
Charlotte Carroll @charlottecrrll

Daniel Jones running a bit ahead of OTAs starting up #Giants
https://x.com/charlottecrrll/status/1793654506317918442 - ( New Window )
RE: ...  
Biteymax22 : 5/23/2024 10:47 am : link
In comment 16522915 Eric from BBI said:
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Patricia Traina
@Patricia_Traina
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DL Coach Andre Patterson said he’s been doing some work with the OLBs this year. Change from last year.


Thank god. Drafting a guy that profiled similarly to Danielle Hunter, then not letting him work with the coach who developed Hunter, always struck me as an odd decision.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:48 am : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
@GiantInsider
Daniel working in 7s
https://x.com/GiantInsider/status/1793654230215176409 - ( New Window )
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:49 am : link
Patricia Traina
@Patricia_Traina
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Coach Dre Patterson is so thorough with his teaching. Covers every possible aspect of playing D-line from A to z.
RE: ...  
RIZZBIZZ : 5/23/2024 10:51 am : link
Im thinking Jones starts game 1.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 10:58 am : link
Emory Hunt
@FBallGameplan
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#Giants coach Brian Cox putting the DL through get-off drills
https://x.com/FBallGameplan/status/1793652745624547472 - ( New Window )
RE: ...  
Lambuth_Special : 5/23/2024 11:01 am : link
In comment 16523021 Eric from BBI said:
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Emory Hunt
@FBallGameplan
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#Giants coach Brian Cox putting the DL through get-off drills https://x.com/FBallGameplan/status/1793652745624547472 - ( New Window )


I feel like this is the first time I've seen Cox captured in either practice or games (I'm sure he has been before). He had such a larger-than-life presence during his NFL career.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 11:02 am : link
Emory Hunt
@FBallGameplan
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1h
More from Patterson on the younger guys like Jordon Riley, Ryder Anderson & DJ Davidson
https://x.com/FBallGameplan/status/1793641069760139561 - ( New Window )
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 11:04 am : link
Emory Hunt
@FBallGameplan
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1h
#Giants DB Coach Jerome Henderson speaking on how he’s approaching coaching the young guys while all (including himself) are learning the new scheme.
https://x.com/FBallGameplan/status/1793642045795389772 - ( New Window )
RE: RE: OL is what I really want to read up on  
5BowlsSoon : 5/23/2024 11:04 am : link
In comment 16522928 SirYesSir said:
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In comment 16522823 5BowlsSoon said:


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Is Evan Neal healthy? Probably not…my gut tells me this pick may have been a waste.




I don't mean to call you out on this...you're thoughts are super common here, but man.

Neal was a universally loved prospect, and is still a very young player. He doesn't have a track record of laziness or off field poor choices. He's had injuries both years that have impacted his mobility.

I'm not here to guarantee he's about to be a pro-bowler...I don't know that. But this idea that he's garbage and a total flop is just way too premature. Tired of everyone shitting on this player.


You are fine…no problem here with me.

I guess Sy convinced me of Neal’s balance and feet inadequacies when he evaluated him. He said Neal was often on the ground, which is not good. Apparently, Neal has not progressed in his two years, but I do agree, he has been dinged up each year….which is another concern I have…durability. Did he miss many games in his 4 years at Alabama like he has missed in his 2 years here?
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 11:05 am : link
Emory Hunt
@FBallGameplan
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Seems like the major emphasis within #Giants new DC’s Shane Bowen’s defense will be pressuring w/4 and playing coverage behind it.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 11:06 am : link
Emory Hunt
@FBallGameplan
Daniel Jones getting some skelly work in
https://x.com/FBallGameplan/status/1793653496430108776 - ( New Window )
5BowlsSoon  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 11:08 am : link
Neal was Sy's #1 rated OL in the draft.

His comment about him being on the ground was not in terms of his pass blocking.
5BowlsSoon  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 11:09 am : link
No, he did not miss games in college.
RE: By the way  
Optimus-NY : 5/23/2024 11:15 am : link
In comment 16522912 Eric from BBI said:
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when I post the video of the Q&As with the defensive coaches later today, I really recommend watching it. The Q&As with the position coaches are usually very informative.


Will do. Thanks E.
First practice the media has covered in 2024  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 11:17 am : link
and they've decided to take a break.
RE: RE: ...  
Optimus-NY : 5/23/2024 11:20 am : link
In comment 16522947 logman said:
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In comment 16522942 Eric from BBI said:


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Andre Patterson is working with the edge rushers alongside OLB coach Charlie Bullen, which is a change under Shane Bowen.
That’s in addition to Patterson’s responsibility as DL coach. Very smart to mesh DL-edge and add to plate of one of the best position coaches in the league



This is what I wanted to know. I love this.


Me 2
RE: 5BowlsSoon  
5BowlsSoon : 5/23/2024 11:23 am : link
In comment 16523040 Eric from BBI said:
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Neal was Sy's #1 rated OL in the draft.

His comment about him being on the ground was not in terms of his pass blocking.


He may have been his #1, but Sy has been very vocal in cautioning fans to temper their enthusiasm due to his shortcomings. I recall all throughout his rookie season when Neal was struggling big time, Sy would remind us of his balance issues …the same he noticed on his college tape…and was concerned about this. As far as I know, Neal has not proven to Sy that he has gotten over these issues…..so, as a fan, I’m wondering, are his issues something that can be easily correctible with good coaching, or is this a physical limitation defect he will just have to overcome?

And just because Neal was his top rated tackle coming out, this doesn’t guarantee stardom in the NFL. The guys are much bigger, much stronger, much faster. He still has to step up his game….which he pretty much have not done.

Lastly, at this point, I couldn’t care less where Neal was drafted or what his college resume shows….I care about what have you done for me lately and how do you look today?
5BowlsSoon  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 11:26 am : link
No shit.

But I'm not going to allow you to have it both ways. You can't use Sy as a defense of your point of view (which is incorrect because we all know you are talking about his pass blocking, not his run blocking), but run away from the fact that he listed him as the #1 OL in the draft.

Neal has played 22 games. He's been hurt both years, including seriously. Whether he can develop or not is TBD. But the team is clearly not moving on from him.
Reporters  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 11:28 am : link
have not tweeted an update in 45 minutes. SMH
RE: ...  
Amtoft : 5/23/2024 11:29 am : link
In comment 16523036 Eric from BBI said:
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Emory Hunt
@FBallGameplan
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1h
Seems like the major emphasis within #Giants new DC’s Shane Bowen’s defense will be pressuring w/4 and playing coverage behind it.


Yep this is why Patterson is working with Thibs and Burns... Bowen runs more of a 4-2-5 than a 3-4
RE: ...  
Amtoft : 5/23/2024 11:31 am : link
In comment 16523038 Eric from BBI said:
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Emory Hunt
@FBallGameplan
Daniel Jones getting some skelly work in https://x.com/FBallGameplan/status/1793653496430108776 - ( New Window )


Interesting... Nabers, Robinson, Hyatt, and Hodgins as the WRs. So with Slayton out Hodgins moves in.
RE: RE: ...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 11:36 am : link
In comment 16523063 Amtoft said:
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In comment 16523038 Eric from BBI said:


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Emory Hunt
@FBallGameplan
Daniel Jones getting some skelly work in https://x.com/FBallGameplan/status/1793653496430108776 - ( New Window )



Interesting... Nabers, Robinson, Hyatt, and Hodgins as the WRs. So with Slayton out Hodgins moves in.


Nice catch. Also, good to see Nabers is already with the 1s.
from earlier in practice  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 11:38 am : link
Ralph Vacchiano
@RalphVacchiano
More of Daniel Jones throwing passes. 👇
https://x.com/RalphVacchiano/status/1793655702487171140 - ( New Window )
FYI, the SNY  
FranknWeezer : 5/23/2024 11:41 am : link
Twitter account is also good about posting videos, close to real-time as well.
More videos - ( New Window )
RE: FYI, the SNY  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 11:43 am : link
In comment 16523077 FranknWeezer said:
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Twitter account is also good about posting videos, close to real-time as well. More videos - ( New Window )


Thanks. Apparently, doing their job is too hard for the reporters.
these clips from SNY are from an hour ago  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 11:44 am : link
Giants Videos
@SNYGiants
Kayvon Thibodeaux and Brian Burns go through a drill at Giants practice
https://x.com/SNYGiants/status/1793653328913539385 - ( New Window )
RE: ...  
Optimus-NY : 5/23/2024 11:51 am : link
In comment 16523006 Eric from BBI said:
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Patricia Traina
@Patricia_Traina
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Coach Dre Patterson is so thorough with his teaching. Covers every possible aspect of playing D-line from A to z.


It's a blessing to have him with the Giants. He's arguably the best DL Coach in the NFL. I hope he got a raise this off-season.
RE: 5BowlsSoon  
larryflower37 : 5/23/2024 11:57 am : link
In comment 16523055 Eric from BBI said:
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No shit.

But I'm not going to allow you to have it both ways. You can't use Sy as a defense of your point of view (which is incorrect because we all know you are talking about his pass blocking, not his run blocking), but run away from the fact that he listed him as the #1 OL in the draft.

Neal has played 22 games. He's been hurt both years, including seriously. Whether he can develop or not is TBD. But the team is clearly not moving on from him.

All of the first 3 OT taken in the draft have struggled. It is a big jump to the pro game, is it frustrating, absolutely but patience is key.
RE: ...  
djm : 5/23/2024 11:57 am : link
In comment 16522905 Eric from BBI said:
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Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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#Giants would start Deonte Banks and Cor’Dale Flott at cornerback if season started today, Jerome Henderson said.

Flott has ‘been tremendous’ and they are pushing each other


It would be great if a mid rd pick turned into a good starter here. Cmon Flott break the 3rd round curse.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 11:58 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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1m
Drew Lock stepped up and threw a bomb TD to Malik Nabers down the seam. Might have been a double move.

An otherwise errant day for Lock, who sailed some balls on the run #Giants
RE: 5BowlsSoon  
5BowlsSoon : 5/23/2024 11:58 am : link
In comment 16523055 Eric from BBI said:
Quote:
No shit.

But I'm not going to allow you to have it both ways. You can't use Sy as a defense of your point of view (which is incorrect because we all know you are talking about his pass blocking, not his run blocking), but run away from the fact that he listed him as the #1 OL in the draft.

Neal has played 22 games. He's been hurt both years, including seriously. Whether he can develop or not is TBD. But the team is clearly not moving on from him.


Well, maybe he is better suited to play inside as a guard, where there is less space for him to lose his balance and rely on better footwork. What do you think Neal as a guard since his run blocking skills exceed his pass blocking skills to date?
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 11:59 am : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Giants just wrapped up their first open OTA. Will have much more later. Biggest takeaway that matters from a practice in May: It appeared that Daboll was calling the plays. He was stationed directly behind the offensive huddle and communicating with QBs between plays while OC Mike Kafka was stationed about 10-15 yards to his left.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 11:59 am : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
@GiantInsider
Malik Nabers showing that speed blowing by defender for long ball reception from Lock.
RE: RE: 5BowlsSoon  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:00 pm : link
In comment 16523091 5BowlsSoon said:
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In comment 16523055 Eric from BBI said:


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No shit.

But I'm not going to allow you to have it both ways. You can't use Sy as a defense of your point of view (which is incorrect because we all know you are talking about his pass blocking, not his run blocking), but run away from the fact that he listed him as the #1 OL in the draft.

Neal has played 22 games. He's been hurt both years, including seriously. Whether he can develop or not is TBD. But the team is clearly not moving on from him.



Well, maybe he is better suited to play inside as a guard, where there is less space for him to lose his balance and rely on better footwork. What do you think Neal as a guard since his run blocking skills exceed his pass blocking skills to date?


They have him at RT right now. Eluemunor is at LG. It's going to stay that way unless Neal continues to struggle.
RE: ...Lock  
5BowlsSoon : 5/23/2024 12:00 pm : link
In comment 16523090 Eric from BBI said:
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Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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1m
Drew Lock stepped up and threw a bomb TD to Malik Nabers down the seam. Might have been a double move.

An otherwise errant day for Lock, who sailed some balls on the run #Giants


I’m not surprised by this….he has tendencies to be errant, especially in the short game. I’m HOPING NATHAN ROURKE CAN RISE UP TO BE THE BACK UP….but I realize, decisions are often made for the wrong reasons.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:01 pm : link
Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
Rough practice for Drew Lock today as the #Giants’ 1st QB up in 11 on 11, although he did hit Malik Nabers for a deep TD up the seam. Brian Daboll calling plays into the huddle again. Daniel Jones looked fine throwing in 7 on 7. About to talk to him. More coming
@NYDNSports
and on tonight’s Talkin’ Ball LIVE
@YouTube
9pm
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:02 pm : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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3m
Josh Ezeudu at LT and Yodny Cajuste at RT with the starting #Giants offense
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:02 pm : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
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2m
Daniel Jones said it feels good getting back into the swing of things against a defense. The rehab process has been “smooth.”
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:02 pm : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
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Daniel Jones thinks he’s in a “good spot.” They have a good plan, and his goal is to be full-go by training camp.
RE: ...  
Ivan15 : 5/23/2024 12:03 pm : link
In comment 16522915 Eric from BBI said:
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Patricia Traina
@Patricia_Traina
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20s
DL Coach Andre Patterson said he’s been doing some work with the OLBs this year. Change from last year.
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Because in Bowen’s scheme, Edge players are defensive ends.
RE: ...Daboll calling plays  
5BowlsSoon : 5/23/2024 12:03 pm : link
In comment 16523092 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Giants just wrapped up their first open OTA. Will have much more later. Biggest takeaway that matters from a practice in May: It appeared that Daboll was calling the plays. He was stationed directly behind the offensive huddle and communicating with QBs between plays while OC Mike Kafka was stationed about 10-15 yards to his left.


YESSSSSSSSSS…..Kafka probably wont be here next year…Daboll is the supposed Offensive guru…..why bury his skills?
RE: these clips from SNY are from an hour ago  
Amtoft : 5/23/2024 12:04 pm : link
In comment 16523081 Eric from BBI said:
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Giants Videos
@SNYGiants
Kayvon Thibodeaux and Brian Burns go through a drill at Giants practice https://x.com/SNYGiants/status/1793653328913539385 - ( New Window )


Man Thibs, Burns, and Dex this year... I don't think people realize what a difference this is going to make.
RE: RE: RE: ...  
mittenedman : 5/23/2024 12:04 pm : link
In comment 16523069 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16523063 Amtoft said:


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In comment 16523038 Eric from BBI said:


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Emory Hunt
@FBallGameplan
Daniel Jones getting some skelly work in https://x.com/FBallGameplan/status/1793653496430108776 - ( New Window )



Interesting... Nabers, Robinson, Hyatt, and Hodgins as the WRs. So with Slayton out Hodgins moves in.



Nice catch. Also, good to see Nabers is already with the 1s.


It will be interesting to see DJ with a great WR. He’s never had one. Not at Duke or NYG. Waller almost last year, but it never materialized. You can’t ignore what happened with Hurts and Tua when they got alpha WRs.
RE: ...  
Bill in UT : 5/23/2024 12:07 pm : link
In comment 16523000 Eric from BBI said:
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Charlotte Carroll @charlottecrrll

Daniel Jones running a bit ahead of OTAs starting up #Giants https://x.com/charlottecrrll/status/1793654506317918442 - ( New Window )


and he didn't fumble
Awesome news about Daboll  
mittenedman : 5/23/2024 12:14 pm : link
As noted on BBI this should be his go down swinging year. Do it his way. He knows the HC responsibilities and can incorporate calling plays now as most of the offensive HCs in the league do.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:14 pm : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
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Daniel Jones is “fired up” to get Malik Nabers. “You can tell he loves football.”
This is an interesting graphic that just popped up on my Twitter feed  
FranknWeezer : 5/23/2024 12:14 pm : link


Philly: "We stole another one of theirs!"

NYG: "Who?!"
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:15 pm : link
Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
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9m
Daniel Jones looked good at practice, individual drills and 7-on-7. No signs of any limitations from the injury.

“It feels good,” Jones said.

Malik Nabers looked good too. The two connected on this one and Nabers also got behind the defense for a long TD in 11-on-11 drills.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:16 pm : link
Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
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9m
Daniel Jones on if there is any doubt he’ll be ready for Week 1 vs. Minnesota.

“I don’t have any doubt about it,” he said.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:16 pm : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
@GiantInsider
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9m
Jones: “I’m motivated, I always feel I have something to prove”
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:16 pm : link
Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
Daniel Jones says he has no doubt he will be ready for Week 1, and he was extremely open and honest about all the #Giants’ QB work this offseason and his current position. Admitted he “wasn’t fired up” about the potential of NG drafting a QB on draft night, but he IS excited about Malik Nabers’ addition to the offense.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:17 pm : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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7m
Little edge from Daniel Jones here. Looked good in 7/7 today, moved well. Asked directly about #NYGiants pursuit of QB prospects, Jones says he “wasn’t fired up” at the possibility.
https://x.com/art_stapleton/status/1793675754716418530 - ( New Window )
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:18 pm : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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7m
Daniel Jones isn’t wearing a brace on his knee and has no doubt he’ll be ready for Week 1. Jones admitted he “wasn’t fired up about” the Giants’ interest in QBs in the draft. He said his mindset is that he always has something to prove so nothing has changed.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:18 pm : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
@GiantInsider
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6m
Thibs: “Burns has a lot of things that will help my game”
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:18 pm : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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6m
Kayvon Thibodeaux jokes as he approaches podium: “Every year I’m here, I’m going for Michael Strahan’s record.” #NYGiants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:19 pm : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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4m
#Giants Kayvon Thibodeaux feels like its ‘now or never’ to maximize his ability and potential.

‘Its about gaining that respect throughout the league’
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:19 pm : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
@GiantInsider
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4m
Thibs: “Greatness is optional, I need to take the next step”
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:19 pm : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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23s
#Giants Tommy Devito threw a laser over middle to a sliding Bryce Ford Wheaton and hit a deep ball to Jalin Hyatt #Giants
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Finch : 5/23/2024 12:21 pm : link
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
Andrew Thomas and Evan Neal didn’t work in team drills today, so you kinda expect this, but Brian Burns was a menace.

I had him with three would-be (obvious) sacks. He came around Ezeudu so fast on one play he tapped Lock on the butt before throwing his hand up to celebrate.

Kayvon Thibodeaux also had a sack.
RE: ...  
Bill in UT : 5/23/2024 12:24 pm : link
In comment 16523127 Eric from BBI said:
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Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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23s
#Giants Tommy Devito threw a laser over middle to a sliding Bryce Ford Wheaton and hit a deep ball to Jalin Hyatt #Giants


How bizarre would that be?
RE: ...  
FranknWeezer : 5/23/2024 12:24 pm : link
In comment 16523117 Eric from BBI said:
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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7m
Little edge from Daniel Jones here. Looked good in 7/7 today, moved well. Asked directly about #NYGiants pursuit of QB prospects, Jones says he “wasn’t fired up” at the possibility. https://x.com/art_stapleton/status/1793675754716418530 - ( New Window )


Strange. Watched that twice and he never uses the phrase "wasn't fired up." Maybe Art flubbed which clip he posted.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:29 pm : link
Patricia Traina
@Patricia_Traina
Flott said he’s currently at 177. Said he feels good moving around.
Neal has played 20 games thus far  
djm : 5/23/2024 12:29 pm : link
and been injured during some of those games. That's not an excuse, more an explanation. Doesn't mean he's about to embark on a good or great career but being bad those first 20 also doesn't mean he's a bust. Not yet.

For perspective, go look at Jumbo Elliot's first 20 games. Even take a QB like Eli Manning and tell me how he was perceived after 20 games. Better yet tell me about Eli after his first 25-30 games when he was shutout at home in a playoff game and everyone was convinced he would never win big games or never win on the road.

Players get better with reps. The key to finding those steals or good players that sort of come out of nowhere to me, the number one rule--is that guy getting reps and time in the NFL. IF he is, there's reasons for hope. Practice makes perfect. It's an old adage but so true.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:30 pm : link
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
#Giants just wrapped up their first media-open OTA.

The highlight: Long touchdown to Malik Nabers.

Drew Lock hit him on the deep shot. He got behind both Pinnick & Flott. Just a glimpse into what #NYG hope Nabers can bring.

Of note: There was pressure on the play. Lock might have been sacked, but it’s a padless OTA, so give him the TD.

Of extra note: That was really the only highlight for Lock. He did not perform well in team drills. I had him 10 of 20 with several misfires.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:31 pm : link
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
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“I wasn’t fired up about it.”

Daniel Jones on the #Giants pursuit of a quarterback in the #NFLDraft. New York aggressively tried to trade up with the #Patriots to get QB Drake Maye

Said he didn’t talk to Brian Daboll, Joe Schoen about it after New York picked Malik Nabers.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:31 pm : link
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
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3m
#Giants edge Brian Burns said he doesn’t know how many sacks he had today — needs to watch the film. He added there are some touchdowns that need to come off the board, though.

I had Burns at three
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:33 pm : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
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1m
Brian Burns said Dexter Lawrence truly has a “gift” in terms of his size and athleticism. He’s also very “clever. … He has a lot of tricks that he picked up along the way. His IQ is second to none.”
by steals  
djm : 5/23/2024 12:33 pm : link
I mean those players who sort of turn into good players after being labeled as bad.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:33 pm : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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1m
#Giants Brian Burns says a pivotal point in his career was when Haason Reddick came to the #Panthers in his 3rd year and they began competing. He is trying to be that for Kayvon Thibodeax in his Year 3.

Burns and Reddick (with #Jets now) are going to get together soon to train
RE: ...  
UberAlias : 5/23/2024 12:34 pm : link
In comment 16522915 Eric from BBI said:
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Patricia Traina
@Patricia_Traina
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DL Coach Andre Patterson said he’s been doing some work with the OLBs this year. Change from last year.
Thank you. It was a mistake not letting him get his hands on Thibs before.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:36 pm : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
Brian Burns looked like arguably the best player on the field today.

What does that mean a May OTA?

He admits nothing. Training camp a better indication of whats to come
#Giants
Why do they still have a 3rd round OG (Ezudu) taking reps at OLT?  
David B. : 5/23/2024 1:00 pm : link
He's hasn't even proven he's a guard yet.
RE: RE: ...  
ZogZerg : 5/23/2024 1:01 pm : link
In comment 16523138 FranknWeezer said:
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In comment 16523117 Eric from BBI said:


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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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Little edge from Daniel Jones here. Looked good in 7/7 today, moved well. Asked directly about #NYGiants pursuit of QB prospects, Jones says he “wasn’t fired up” at the possibility. https://x.com/art_stapleton/status/1793675754716418530 - ( New Window )



Strange. Watched that twice and he never uses the phrase "wasn't fired up." Maybe Art flubbed which clip he posted.


see link
I wasn't fired up about it - ( New Window )
RE: Why do they still have a 3rd round OG (Ezudu) taking reps at OLT?  
Mike in NY : 5/23/2024 1:05 pm : link
In comment 16523194 David B. said:
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He's hasn't even proven he's a guard yet.


Thomas has an injury history so the Giants are seeing which of the back-ups is the best option in the new scheme to play LT. I am sure we will see others getting reps there during camp when Thomas takes time off.
RE: RE: ...  
Mike in NY : 5/23/2024 1:07 pm : link
In comment 16523160 UberAlias said:
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In comment 16522915 Eric from BBI said:


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Patricia Traina
@Patricia_Traina
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DL Coach Andre Patterson said he’s been doing some work with the OLBs this year. Change from last year.

Thank you. It was a mistake not letting him get his hands on Thibs before.


Especially when you have someone of Patterson's reputation it would be idiotic to freeze him out. Perhaps that was also some of the issue with Wink and his bosom buddy Wilkins.
RE: Why do they still have a 3rd round OG (Ezudu) taking reps at OLT?  
Blue Dog : 5/23/2024 1:18 pm : link
In comment 16523194 David B. said:
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He's hasn't even proven he's a guard yet.


Neal and Thomas not doing team drills.
RE: RE: these clips from SNY are from an hour ago  
M.S. : 5/23/2024 1:33 pm : link
In comment 16523104 Amtoft said:
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In comment 16523081 Eric from BBI said:


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Giants Videos
@SNYGiants
Kayvon Thibodeaux and Brian Burns go through a drill at Giants practice https://x.com/SNYGiants/status/1793653328913539385 - ( New Window )



Man Thibs, Burns, and Dex this year... I don't think people realize what a difference this is going to make.

How well will these 2 guys anchor on off-tackle runs?
RE: Why do they still have a 3rd round OG (Ezudu) taking reps at OLT?  
BillT : 5/23/2024 1:44 pm : link
In comment 16523194 David B. said:
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He's hasn't even proven he's a guard yet.

Ezudu played some LT in college. Having a decent backup LT is pretty important. As it seems Eluemunor is playing LG it frees up Ezudu to get reps as a backup tackle.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 1:45 pm : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
Its going to be a looooooooong few months if this is how people react to every Daniel Jones update.

Not picking on this one guy. Its hundreds of replies like this to every DJ update

Yes, all that matters is the games. But there are no games now. So how he moves, how he compares to the other #Giants QBs, his rapport with Nabers etc. is what matters.

Every May update cant be framed as ‘Hes moving well after ACL surgery but if he throws 2 INTs vs Vikings then bench him.’

He has a chip on his shoulder. He played above-average with a chip in 2022.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 1:46 pm : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Disclaimer about OTAs being voluntary and some players could have been in the facility rehabbing. Here are the players I didn’t spot today: WR Darius Slayton, WR Isaiah McKenzie, TE Darren Waller, TE Daniel Bellinger, DL Jordan Phillips, DL Rakeem Nunez-Roches, DL Timmy Horne.

These players were on the side: OL Evan Neal, OL Matt Nelson, LB Isaiah Simmons, OLB Benton Whitley, CB Aaron Robinson.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 1:46 pm : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
@GiantInsider
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Some observations from OTA:
-Dane Belton got a lot of reps with 1s
-Ryder Anderson reps next to Dex.
-Wan’Dale and Jalin Hyatt with deep grabs
-Tae Banks nice PD
-Theo Johnson with nice reception from Lock.
-Drew Lock very inconsistent.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 1:47 pm : link
Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
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Replying to
@PLeonardNYDN
Andrew Thomas didn't take team reps today. Josh Ezeudu played left tackle. And Brian Burns was lighting him up. I asked Burns if he counted how many sacks he had:

"Nah. I count them on film. They had some touchdowns they gotta take back, though," he said
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 1:47 pm : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
My #NyGiants takeaways from first OTA practice:
- Daniel Jones looked smooth moving around on his surgically repaired knee.
- Pump the brakes on any QB controversy. Heard DJ looked has been the sharper QB so far this offseason and Drew Lock's inaccuracy today reinforced it. DJ was QB1 in 7-on-7. Lock QB1 in 11-on-11 (no reps for DJ).
- LT Andrew Thomas took no team reps. Seems like that was the case in earlier OTAs, too. Load management? RT Evan Neal is with the rehab group.
- It's hard to believe that Josh Ezeudu is in line to be the swing OT again after struggling last year. I'd like to let him develop at OG -- compete to start or be the swing OG. But Jermaine Eluemunor was starting at RG and OT Matt Nelson was with the rehab group. Ezeudu next up.
- Why is Jon Runyan at RG instead of LG? First, it could be a day-to-day switch. But my broader understanding is that #Giants look at pairing up LT-LG and RT-RG. They are weaker on the right side, so put the better RG there.
- The DL depth is lacking on paper. I've been saying that since the draft. It was more startling today when Rakeem Nunez-Roches and Jordan Phillips were not here (voluntary). Big opportunity for Jordon Riley.
- No sign of Daniel Bellinger, either. Big spring for him with Darren Waller not here/likely to retire.
- Eric Gray got some RB1 snaps in up-tempo 11-on-11.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 1:47 pm : link
Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
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Most encouraging thing about #Giants practice today was that Malik Nabers was open on almost every 11-on-11 route he ran
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 1:48 pm : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Notable difference from last offseason: Last year, the Giants didn't do a single 11-on-11 period in the practices open to the media; it was all 7-on-7.

Today's practice featured a 7-on-7 period early and then extensive 11-on-11 work. Linemen aren't wearing pads, but at least they're getting reps in a game-like setting this spring.
RE: ...  
BigBlue7 : 5/23/2024 1:49 pm : link
In comment 16523234 Eric from BBI said:
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Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
Its going to be a looooooooong few months if this is how people react to every Daniel Jones update.

Not picking on this one guy. Its hundreds of replies like this to every DJ update

Yes, all that matters is the games. But there are no games now. So how he moves, how he compares to the other #Giants QBs, his rapport with Nabers etc. is what matters.

Every May update cant be framed as ‘Hes moving well after ACL surgery but if he throws 2 INTs vs Vikings then bench him.’

He has a chip on his shoulder. He played above-average with a chip in 2022.


I'd rather he have a chip in his brain that helped him process defenses post-snap
RE: ...  
gersh : 5/23/2024 1:50 pm : link
In comment 16523120 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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Daniel Jones isn’t wearing a brace on his knee and has no doubt he’ll be ready for Week 1. Jones admitted he “wasn’t fired up about” the Giants’ interest in QBs in the draft. He said his mindset is that he always has something to prove so nothing has changed.


Isn't it odd that he's not even wearing a brace?
RE: ...  
GoDeep13 : 5/23/2024 1:59 pm : link
In comment 16522977 Eric from BBI said:
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The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
@GiantInsider
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Riley has trimmed down a bit

He and Gervarrius Owens are the two guys I'm quietly very hyped about. I liked what I saw from them in short spurts and think they can be real players.
RE: ...  
Blue Dog : 5/23/2024 1:59 pm : link
In comment 16523235 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Disclaimer about OTAs being voluntary and some players could have been in the facility rehabbing. Here are the players I didn’t spot today: WR Darius Slayton, WR Isaiah McKenzie, TE Darren Waller, TE Daniel Bellinger, DL Jordan Phillips, DL Rakeem Nunez-Roches, DL Timmy Horne.

These players were on the side: OL Evan Neal, OL Matt Nelson, LB Isaiah Simmons, OLB Benton Whitley, CB Aaron Robinson.


Not great that Matt Nelson isn't out there. Figuring out swing tackle is important, especially if Thomas and Neal are not 100%. Ezeudu doesn't seem like the answer.
RE: RE: ...  
Amtoft : 5/23/2024 2:01 pm : link
In comment 16523254 Blue Dog said:
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In comment 16523235 Eric from BBI said:


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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Disclaimer about OTAs being voluntary and some players could have been in the facility rehabbing. Here are the players I didn’t spot today: WR Darius Slayton, WR Isaiah McKenzie, TE Darren Waller, TE Daniel Bellinger, DL Jordan Phillips, DL Rakeem Nunez-Roches, DL Timmy Horne.

These players were on the side: OL Evan Neal, OL Matt Nelson, LB Isaiah Simmons, OLB Benton Whitley, CB Aaron Robinson.



Not great that Matt Nelson isn't out there. Figuring out swing tackle is important, especially if Thomas and Neal are not 100%. Ezeudu doesn't seem like the answer.


I would rather Neal play LT than Ezeudu... He is brutal... Yes I know Neal didn't do 11 on 11s also.
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Riley has trimmed down a bit



He and Gervarrius Owens are the two guys I'm quietly very hyped about. I liked what I saw from them in short spurts and think they can be real players.


I agree
Over the years I've learned to trust what I see, rather than what I hear.
I think Owens will be a contributor this year
I think both DJ and Riley will also be solid
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Riley has trimmed down a bit



Pointed this out the other day, but relevant here and I think pic confirms it - giants.com now lists him at 315lbs, his combine weight was 338lbs. Normally you can't really trust the website numbers but a few who have seen him have made comments about his weight at this point.
Ezeudu at LT  
5BowlsSoon : 5/23/2024 2:06 pm : link
Yikes!

Well, I guess the coaches are either giving up on him being a guard or they feel we need more tackles and we already have enough guards.
RE: Ezeudu at LT  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 2:08 pm : link
In comment 16523262 5BowlsSoon said:
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Yikes!

Well, I guess the coaches are either giving up on him being a guard or they feel we need more tackles and we already have enough guards.


Did you read the notes above????

Our starting LT sat out. Our primary swing-tackle was playing his normal starting spot (wouldn't in a real game) and the back-up swing tackle (Nelson) was on the sidelines.

Pay attention.
Pictures  
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from OTA #3....
📸 Practice Photos: Best of OTA No. 3 - ( New Window )
RE: RE: Ezeudu at LT  
Amtoft : 5/23/2024 2:11 pm : link
In comment 16523265 Eric from BBI said:
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Yikes!

Well, I guess the coaches are either giving up on him being a guard or they feel we need more tackles and we already have enough guards.



Did you read the notes above????

Our starting LT sat out. Our primary swing-tackle was playing his normal starting spot (wouldn't in a real game) and the back-up swing tackle (Nelson) was on the sidelines.

Pay attention.


Yep and that means that he was running with the 1s at LT... doesn't look like they are giving up on him at all.
Singletary and Nabers  
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Jones  
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Owens and Pinnock  
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If Thomas, Neal, Nelson  
Jaenyg : 5/23/2024 2:14 pm : link
Are not participating in team drills today for one reason or another, that leaves only Miles, Cajuste, M. Johnson at OT.

Ezeudu was prob the only option.
Theo Johnson  
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RE: If Thomas, Neal, Nelson  
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Are not participating in team drills today for one reason or another, that leaves only Miles, Cajuste, M. Johnson at OT.

Ezeudu was prob the only option.


And Cajuste was at RT.
More evidence Hodgins seeing 1st team reps  
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Davidson and Chatman  
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Drew Lock  
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Tyrone Tracy  
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Jalin Hyatt versus Hawkins  
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Turbo doing his thing  
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Belton, McCloud, Phillips  
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Azeez Ojulari  
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Azeez again  
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Darrian Beavers  
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Hyatt, Nabers, and DeVito  
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Marcellus Johnson and Jalen Mayfield  
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RE: ...  
Jaenyg : 5/23/2024 2:29 pm : link
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Dan Duggan
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Disclaimer about OTAs being voluntary and some players could have been in the facility rehabbing. Here are the players I didn’t spot today: WR Darius Slayton, WR Isaiah McKenzie, TE Darren Waller, TE Daniel Bellinger, DL Jordan Phillips, DL Rakeem Nunez-Roches, DL Timmy Horne.

These players were on the side: OL Evan Neal, OL Matt Nelson, LB Isaiah Simmons, OLB Benton Whitley, CB Aaron Robinson.


McKenzie was photographed in earlier days. But no sign of the any of the others on any of the days. Also, there were photos of Simmons lining up on day 1 or 2, so he wasn’t always on the side.
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Daniel Jones isn’t wearing a brace on his knee and has no doubt he’ll be ready for Week 1. Jones admitted he “wasn’t fired up about” the Giants’ interest in QBs in the draft. He said his mindset is that he always has something to prove so nothing has changed.



Isn't it odd that he's not even wearing a brace?


I would say so. Gotta figure he at least had a knee sleeve on under those tights, though.

Meanwhile, Thibs continues to wear that Gigantor arm brace.


(pic from yesterday). I can't even recall why he wears it at this point, but it's massive!
RE: Hyatt, Nabers, and DeVito  
Bill in UT : 5/23/2024 3:25 pm : link
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lol, it doesn't look like DeVito was invited to the party
RE: Jalin Hyatt versus Hawkins  
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Don't like that it looks like Hyatt caught that ball against his chest.
RE: RE: Jalin Hyatt versus Hawkins  
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Don't like that it looks like Hyatt caught that ball against his chest.


It was an over the shoulder catch - he was bringing the ball into his body
RE: RE: Jalin Hyatt versus Hawkins  
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In comment 16523363 Bill in UT said:
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Don't like that it looks like Hyatt caught that ball against his chest.


You really are a glass half-empty kind of guy.
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Tae Banks looks like a player with an NFL season under his belt. His new number (3) suits him.

As much as there's been talk of playing more zone, Banks is still showing his physicality at the line of scrimmage.
Giants tried a quick hitter to Jalin Hyatt and Banks was up in his grill real quick for a PBU. #NYGiants
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Malik Nabers toasted Flott on two double-moves today. Lock went to another receiver on the first and Nabers caught the second one. Nabers seemed to be open all practice. #NYGiants
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Art Stapleton
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Giants held Andrew Thomas and Evan Neal out of 11v11 drills entirely. It's one of the reasons Joshua Ezeudu is lining up at LT with that group. Thought is to keep Eluemunor at LG and Runyan at RG with JMS at C. Aaron Stinnie filling in at RT.
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Malik Nabers hit a killer crossover during team 11v11 drills today while lined up in the slot.
Cor'Dale Flott was in initial coverage, funneled Nabers to help in middle.

Drew Lock chased out of pocket, Nabers uncovered and Lock hit him underneath. Pretty play. #NYGiants
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Some notables from OTAs:

Eye opener: Malik Nabers getting open on a double-move for a deep ball 50-yard TD. Explosive player.

Dominant — Brian Burns was constantly in the backfield

The OL update: OTs Evan Neal and Andrew Thomas weren’t in live drills

First team OL (from L to R): Ezeudu, Eluemunor, Schmitz, Runyan, Cajuste

QB Drew Lock had a rough practice

Cor’Dale Flott a first-team CB opposite Deonte Banks. Nick McCloud working out of the slot.

Dane Belton a first-team safety next to Jason Pinnock

Jalin Hyatt also had an explosive play down the right sideline from Tommy DeVito
Salomone's Report  
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Touchdowns & Takeaways: Rookies go long at OTAs - ( New Window )
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Bill in UT : 5/23/2024 3:51 pm : link
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Don't like that it looks like Hyatt caught that ball against his chest.



You really are a glass half-empty kind of guy.

so you've said. I blame my mother
RE: RE: RE: Jalin Hyatt versus Hawkins  
Bill in UT : 5/23/2024 3:52 pm : link
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Don't like that it looks like Hyatt caught that ball against his chest.



It was an over the shoulder catch - he was bringing the ball into his body


That's good. I've always thought he was a hands catcher.
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Art Stapleton
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I know a lot has been made about Joshua Ezeudu and why he's at left tackle in 11v11.

Giants holding Andrew Thomas and Evan Neal out of team drills to start OTAs, and it's worth noting Matt Nelson - the likely swing tackle if Jermaine Eluemunor is a starting guard - was in the rehab group with Neal and others.

So Ezeudu might be at LT for right now as they work through different combos in install, 11v11.
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Tommy DeVito looked a lot closer to QB2 than QB3 today.

Again, it's an OTA in May.

But I wouldn't be running DeVito off this team so quickly. #NYGiants
Schmeelk's Report  
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Practice Report: Notes & observations from OTA No. 3 - ( New Window )
Schmeelk's Report  
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* I watched the outside linebackers and edge players during the individual portion of practice. They began with a drill designed to get the players to identify a potential pass and bat the ball away. After the initial drill, they went into a lateral movement period that seemed to mimic the movement necessary to react to a pass in zone defense. The player would have to change direction moving side to side to make a play.

* Daniel Jones got his snaps during 7-on-7s and found Malik Nabers over the middle. Kaleb Hayes, a first-year defensive back from BYU, knocked down a pass during the period.

* The Giants' defensive front was very active throughout practice. They found themselves in the backfield often, including Brian Burns and Tomon Fox.

* The secondary made plays on the ball, including a deflection from Darnay Holmes. Darius Muasau did a good job staying with a tight end across the field. Deonte Banks knocked away a pass on the right sideline. Dane Belton had a chance to come up with an interception, coming over from center field to prevent a deep completion, but he was not able to come up with the leaping interception. Rookie Andru Phillips also played strong coverage, preventing a reception.



* Giants receivers made some plays of their own. Theo Johnson caught a pass down the field, which allowed him to show off his speed for a big gain. Nabers, a fellow rookie, made the splash play of practice, getting more than 10 yards of separation on what looked like a double move before catching a deep pass from Drew Lock. Tommy DeVito hit Jalin Hyatt right on the money down the right sideline for a big gain. Wan'Dale Robinson also got himself open several times throughout practice.

* DeVito showed off his speed on a quarterback keeper, running to the right and splitting the defense for a strong gain.

* During special teams drills, the offensive line, running backs, and quarterbacks came together to work on their pass protections. The quarterback and center would have to call out the proper protection rules, identify the MIKE linebackers and then everyone would have to react properly to the defense's movement to handle designed blitzes from the coaching staff. I've been really impressed with how offensive line coach Carmen Bricillo is trying to teach the mental part of the game early in the process this spring. There isn't a ton of yelling and screaming; instead, there is a meticulous focus on the details of assignment football.

* Graham Gano has kicked the last couple of days and there are no signs of his season-ending injury from last season bothering him.


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Don’t sleep on Ryder Anderson and Jordon Riley having more of a role up front defensively. Didn’t see Nacho and Jordan Phillips today, so Anderson and Riley got chances with Dexter Lawrence and did not look out of place. #NYGiants
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I thought Tommy DeVito was far & away the best QB at practice today. #Giants

Daniel Jones didn’t do team drills*
Per Eric’s advice  
Jaenyg : 5/23/2024 5:17 pm : link
I listened to some asst coach interviews and fished for nuggets. The problem is, you have to sift through god awful minutia of questions. Like cringe worthy. Paul and Kim do nothing for me.

But to Eric’s point, there are nuggets to be had. OLB coach Bullen was asked if Simmons has spent any time with his group and he answered no, but almost in a way like he was surprised about it or he fully welcomes it. I wish there were more questions like that. I know that those questions don’t garner clicks, but man it’s exhausting hearing these other mindless questions.
RE: Per Eric’s advice  
bceagle05 : 5/23/2024 5:44 pm : link
In comment 16523510 Jaenyg said:
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I listened to some asst coach interviews and fished for nuggets. The problem is, you have to sift through god awful minutia of questions. Like cringe worthy. Paul and Kim do nothing for me.

Coaches and players are always confused by Paul’s long-winded questions. Sometimes they make him rephrase them, it’s hilarious.
Burns looks good in Giants colors.  
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RE: RE: Per Eric’s advice  
ZogZerg : 5/24/2024 7:28 am : link
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I listened to some asst coach interviews and fished for nuggets. The problem is, you have to sift through god awful minutia of questions. Like cringe worthy. Paul and Kim do nothing for me.


Coaches and players are always confused by Paul’s long-winded questions. Sometimes they make him rephrase them, it’s hilarious.


Yup. That long question was awful. And he does it all the time. And then you have Jordan being his typical douche self correcting Burns when Burns made a comment on Cell phone ring. These guys are the pits.
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