I’m supremely confident they’ll re-sign him but he is a fit on any team, especially Philly. How bout OG and Wemby together in San Antonio? Instantly an elite defensive team.
and get more out of him offensively over the next few years - we’ve seen a lot of players sign here and get better under this regime. OG showcased some things in the game against Indy prior to his hammy injury.
The speculation was that a deal was mostly in place
to play with that dirt bag Embide. Why would he. The guy went out of his way to try and injure players in the first round plus although he is a great player he is nothing but a whiner and malcontent. The dollars are a big issue which the Knicks can pay more than any other team but the fit is big as well.
If he was thinking about ekaving or there was a chanxe he would
if OG didnt Re-sign with the Knicks, this feels like a dont hit us with tampering report
That was my first thought as well, especially given the tampering complaints with Brunson. There is no chance the Knicks traded Quickley and RJ for OG without the broad strokes of a deal already agreed on, not when his agent is Rose's son.
As an aside, am I the only one who thinks Siakam isn't a max
player? The media reports on it like he's 100% a max player. He's 30 years old already though and while it's not a choice between them, I think both OG and Randle are more valuable players than Siakam.
it is pretty obvious that OG has done everything to get to NY, including firing Klutch and going to CAA, then when he was traded to NY it was reported he would be willing to take less in NY..
If worse ckmes to worse the Knicks would up the offer if they had to..
4 teams told him that they got word that OG will listen to offers and then at the end says he expects OG to re-sign with the Knicks..
Are we really going to pretend that a player represented by CAA hasnt already talked numbers with Leon Rose? the guy that recruited OG to CAA is Leon Rose's best friend lol
Looks like Trajan Langdon is getting the Detroit job - will that affect the trade market at all? You had mentioned something could happen depending on the hire.
Looks like Trajan Langdon is getting the Detroit job - will that affect the trade market at all? You had mentioned something could happen depending on the hire.
Looks like Trajan Langdon is getting the Detroit job - will that affect the trade market at all? You had mentioned something could happen depending on the hire.
It doesn’t sound like Weaver is going to get demoted and I don’t think Langdon would be proactive in trading Cade but I think it’s a matter of when not if Cade asks out
injuring his hamstring to play in game 7 if he didn't have a handshake deal with the Knicks already.
As others have pointed out, we can offer him an extra year and more money than any other team, so unless he hated being in NY I highly doubt he's going elsewhere.
Seems like a reporter trying to generate attention and get aggregated. Haven't seen any of the national reporters say something similar.
listening to Fred Katz on the Knicks Film School pod.
1. Do people like Macri? HIs general persona seems to irk me but I can't place my finger on why. CP interviewed Katz too yesterday and just did a much better job imo
2. Katz pretty strongly suggests the Knicks passed on Dejounte at the trade deadline for personality reasons
3. Mentions PG and Mikal specifically as guys that fit the Thibs mindset, but that's not sourcing but just a hunch he has
listening to Fred Katz on the Knicks Film School pod.
1. Do people like Macri? HIs general persona seems to irk me but I can't place my finger on why. CP interviewed Katz too yesterday and just did a much better job imo
2. Katz pretty strongly suggests the Knicks passed on Dejounte at the trade deadline for personality reasons
3. Mentions PG and Mikal specifically as guys that fit the Thibs mindset, but that's not sourcing but just a hunch he has
I used to enjoy Macri’s content, and still subscribe to his newsletter, but I feel like his stuff has gone downhill. Although it’s always been clear he’s a huge Knicks fan, I always felt like he did a pretty good job of having an objective view of the team. This year has moved further away from that with the more success the team has had. The second half of this season he’s veered into full on fanboy territory. I’ve actually been considering canceling my newsletter subscription because I find myself skimming through most of the material as he just falls all over himself to proclaim how much he just loves this team and everything they do.
listening to Fred Katz on the Knicks Film School pod.
1. Do people like Macri? HIs general persona seems to irk me but I can't place my finger on why. CP interviewed Katz too yesterday and just did a much better job imo
2. Katz pretty strongly suggests the Knicks passed on Dejounte at the trade deadline for personality reasons
3. Mentions PG and Mikal specifically as guys that fit the Thibs mindset, but that's not sourcing but just a hunch he has
Macri and Katz always go all over the place when they do a Pod togethee..
I thought another interesting thing was Katz syaing they are probably going to go around with BOjan and Mitch package with a ton of picks rather than with Randle to try and add to this team..
listening to Fred Katz on the Knicks Film School pod.
1. Do people like Macri? HIs general persona seems to irk me but I can't place my finger on why. CP interviewed Katz too yesterday and just did a much better job imo
2. Katz pretty strongly suggests the Knicks passed on Dejounte at the trade deadline for personality reasons
3. Mentions PG and Mikal specifically as guys that fit the Thibs mindset, but that's not sourcing but just a hunch he has
I used to enjoy Macri’s content, and still subscribe to his newsletter, but I feel like his stuff has gone downhill. Although it’s always been clear he’s a huge Knicks fan, I always felt like he did a pretty good job of having an objective view of the team. This year has moved further away from that with the more success the team has had. The second half of this season he’s veered into full on fanboy territory. I’ve actually been considering canceling my newsletter subscription because I find myself skimming through most of the material as he just falls all over himself to proclaim how much he just loves this team and everything they do.
Macri is a good guy, really like him, but not sure how he got himself so embedded in the Knicks universe as I would assume he is a super-fan that just took off. He is not overly knowledgeable to me. Also, he changes his tune about players in almost every article. RJ Barrett is my favorite example as he LOVED him and then turned on him when he was traded and gave every example of why the Knicks traded him.
I agree but I think Quickley was probably going to walk if we kept him cause he probably would get starter money and a chance to start on another team which we probably wouldn’t match.
I agree but I think Quickley was probably going to walk if we kept him cause he probably would get starter money and a chance to start on another team which we probably wouldn’t match.
What happens with Quickley this off season is going to be fascinating to me. I think there may be someone out there willing to pay him what he’s looking for but I still find it hard to believe that teams are going to be lining up to give him a massive contract. I like Quick and he’s a good player but overpaying him to be a focal point of a team will end up as a mistake, imo
I agree but I think Quickley was probably going to walk if we kept him cause he probably would get starter money and a chance to start on another team which we probably wouldn’t match.
What happens with Quickley this off season is going to be fascinating to me. I think there may be someone out there willing to pay him what he’s looking for but I still find it hard to believe that teams are going to be lining up to give him a massive contract. I like Quick and he’s a good player but overpaying him to be a focal point of a team will end up as a mistake, imo
I think he stays in Toronto, they view him as a great fit next to Barnes, can play off of him or with the ball..
The question for Toronto is though how much you going to give him and is building around Quick, Rj and Barnes really going to take you anywhere?
listening to Fred Katz on the Knicks Film School pod.
1. Do people like Macri? HIs general persona seems to irk me but I can't place my finger on why. CP interviewed Katz too yesterday and just did a much better job imo
2. Katz pretty strongly suggests the Knicks passed on Dejounte at the trade deadline for personality reasons
3. Mentions PG and Mikal specifically as guys that fit the Thibs mindset, but that's not sourcing but just a hunch he has
I happen to enjoy KFS and Macri. But he is an acquired taste. DJ and Benji have the x&os down while Jeremy really understands the cap. IMHO macro is the face that keeps it together and can run people the wrong way. These are just fans with opinions.
Katz on the other hand has the pulse of the team and will drop nuggets in various podcasts. Check out the one he did with KFTV
Katz on the other hand has the pulse of the team and will drop nuggets in various podcasts. Check out the one he did with KFTV
Thanks for the heads up. I watched it today. Yeah it was great. Katz is probably the best most thoughtful guy on the Knicks beat. He doesn't let emotions cloud his opinion either. CP really just led him into topics and let him go on. Probably a 1% or less that OG leaves. The more I look at it I keep Randle and use Bojan and picks maybe Mitch if you have to throw him in to improve the team. PG is the type of guy you could land with that package. I'm not crazy counting on PG as the #2 star because health wise he's not reliable at all. However you keep Randle and OG he fits in real nicely in that starting lineup. I also am into what I mentioned earlier getting DeRozan in a sign and trade along with Caruso for Bojan & picks.
Katz on the other hand has the pulse of the team and will drop nuggets in various podcasts. Check out the one he did with KFTV
Thanks for the heads up. I watched it today. Yeah it was great. Katz is probably the best most thoughtful guy on the Knicks beat. He doesn't let emotions cloud his opinion either. CP really just led him into topics and let him go on. Probably a 1% or less that OG leaves. The more I look at it I keep Randle and use Bojan and picks maybe Mitch if you have to throw him in to improve the team. PG is the type of guy you could land with that package. I'm not crazy counting on PG as the #2 star because health wise he's not reliable at all. However you keep Randle and OG he fits in real nicely in that starting lineup. I also am into what I mentioned earlier getting DeRozan in a sign and trade along with Caruso for Bojan & picks.
I would sign up for Mitch and Bojan for PG. But we'd have to be ready to max him it sounds like, or the Sixers will. But in a vacuum yes I'd do that. If it goes well that's a championship level move. Love PG as a big 2 and secondary creator.
I also would be in for Derozan and Caruso. Love Derozan as a 6th man of the year candidate and second unit initiator. Could play really well next to Deuce and I guess Caruso.
I'd prioritize:
1. Booker
2. Bridges
3. PG
4. Derozan
but I'd trade Bogie and Mitch for any of them. (I do know Booker would require Randle leaving)
Derozan signs with us for the non taxpayer MLE at 12.9? Made 28 last year, but clearly on the downside of his career. Where else to go ring chase? Maybe Denver, maybe both LA teams (where he's from). Probably a pipedream but worth a call.
Would captain the bench unit with Deuce. The fit on the bench with Hart isn't great as two non shooters, but maybe they can get away with it.
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Despite reports this week casting doubt on a deal between the two sides, sources say that both OG Anunoby’s camp and the New York Knicks expect that an agreement will be reached for the 26-year old to stay in NY.
The Knicks were 27-9 with Anunoby playing including the playoffs
are going into a complete rebuild, Joe Tsai said they want to do a "long-term build" more about looking to the future than short term quick fix..
Guess no star hunting for them, ciuld also mean Bridges is available for draft picks
He's what I don't understand, there's been a bunch of media pushing the idea of Julius and first round picks for just Bridges. The lol Knicks tax and days of bad deals are over. I don't want to hand over a 3 x all star and 2 x all NBA player for a guy who averaged 20ppg in one season.
are going into a complete rebuild, Joe Tsai said they want to do a "long-term build" more about looking to the future than short term quick fix..
Guess no star hunting for them, ciuld also mean Bridges is available for draft picks
He's what I don't understand, there's been a bunch of media pushing the idea of Julius and first round picks for just Bridges. The lol Knicks tax and days of bad deals are over. I don't want to hand over a 3 x all star and 2 x all NBA player for a guy who averaged 20ppg in one season.
Yeah there's no way they're moving Julies for Bridges.
I think the Rockets have to be the overwhelming favorites to get him just because they can send the Nets their picks back.
I do wonder if there is anything we would have the Rockets would want to make it a 3 way trade. On the surface doesn't seem like a great trade partner for us.
I think all the talk of Knicks wont be as agressive is all a smoke screen for when he becomes available, i think their dream scenario was always Brunson, Mitchell and OG
just not sure what direction the Nets want to go. The smart thing is obviously to blow it up.
The best case for the Nets is the Rockets want Bridges so they can get their picks back but after Jalen Green's emergence to end the year who really knows.
If not I guess they sort of have to just try to get better?
just not sure what direction the Nets want to go. The smart thing is obviously to blow it up.
The best case for the Nets is the Rockets want Bridges so they can get their picks back but after Jalen Green's emergence to end the year who really knows.
If not I guess they sort of have to just try to get better?
Yeah the Nets are confusing, their owner says he wants a long term build but their GM always talks about adding stars
I think all the talk of Knicks wont be as agressive is all a smoke screen for when he becomes available, i think their dream scenario was always Brunson, Mitchell and OG
I am very skeptical of this. I think the fit is iffy and both sides know it. Seems like there is really momentum for him to stay and re-tool in Cleveland. Maybe they get Johnny Bryant too.
I think all the talk of Knicks wont be as agressive is all a smoke screen for when he becomes available, i think their dream scenario was always Brunson, Mitchell and OG
I am very skeptical of this. I think the fit is iffy and both sides know it. Seems like there is really momentum for him to stay and re-tool in Cleveland. Maybe they get Johnny Bryant too.
I jist cant see Mitchell signing long term in Cleveland unless they trade for a star, he kNows him and Garland doesnt work and he knows the Mobely/Allen frontcourt doesnt work..
They traded their future firsts in the Mitchell deal, i just dont see Mitchell staying there
If I had to bet, Mitchell reups with the Cavs & then asks for a trade in 2025 or so.
thats the thing though, he doesnt need to re up, he has another year after thisbyesr if he wants it and getting traded now his bird rights go with him, he isnt getting anymore money signing with Cleceland
It’s kind of crazy because Haliburton is a great player but what does he do so much better than Nembhard? passing?
Pacers made it to the ECF bit i feel like they need big changes still
And we saw Sacramento trade him for Sabonis, put the ball in Fox’s hands, and immediately go from bottom feeder to playoff caliber team. My dislike of him aside, he’s a difficult guy to build around - bad defense, no midrange game, not great at the rim, doesn’t get to the FT line.
It’s kind of crazy because Haliburton is a great player but what does he do so much better than Nembhard? passing?
Pacers made it to the ECF bit i feel like they need big changes still
And we saw Sacramento trade him for Sabonis, put the ball in Fox’s hands, and immediately go from bottom feeder to playoff caliber team. My dislike of him aside, he’s a difficult guy to build around - bad defense, no midrange game, not great at the rim, doesn’t get to the FT line.
Yup, he is flashy so he will get the highlights on espn and hyoed up by wanna be analysts but if you sit down and watch him play, he has a lot of holes..
and his biggest issue? The fact he is a front running nozzle, dances on the court and talks a lot when he is winning but when the team needs him or is losing, he is nowhere to be found
doesn’t get traded for a star, one trade I saw on twitter that I actually kinda love is Bogie, a first this year and one of the protected picks for Colin Sexton.
Steps right into the IQ role that they never really replaced. Hes a character but I think he fits into the mentality of this team.
Man, I hate the Celtics, but I am happy to see the Pacers gone.
You had Pacers fans and other non-Knicks fans and pundits trying to say the Knicks' injuries can't be an excuse; they are part of the game. Then Haliburton hurts his hammy and it's an excuse. For the Knicks, it wasn't one injury. It was 4 or 5 or 6. For all the talk about Thibs not playing the bench, the options on the bench really shrunk as the year went on. They lost their starting C in the first month. They lost their All Star PF mid-way, just when they were rolling. They lost Brunson for a couple of small stretches and he was banged up for most of the post season. They lost their newly acquired SF for a number of games due to a pre-existing injury that required surgery and then lost him for the remainder of the Pacers series essentially, then lost their former 6th man thrust into a critical starting role at the end of that series, and then lost Brunson likely for the remainder of the post season if they continued. Not to mention, Bogdonavich lost for the playoffs also. How are you supposed to overcome ALL of those injuries?
doesn’t get traded for a star, one trade I saw on twitter that I actually kinda love is Bogie, a first this year and one of the protected picks for Colin Sexton.
He was the guy I wanted at the deadline, I agree he’s perfect for the IQ role. Utah is a pain in the neck to deal with on trades, as we learned a few years ago, but I would love this addition. We need a little more scoring punch off the bench.
Knicks need to find a dhnamic partner for Brunson, i like Randle i just dont think he is the dynamic scorer to play off of Brunson, especially in the playoffs..
I know the fit is iffy defensively but you can make it work, go get Mitchell and form a dynamic duo
doesn’t get traded for a star, one trade I saw on twitter that I actually kinda love is Bogie, a first this year and one of the protected picks for Colin Sexton.
He was the guy I wanted at the deadline, I agree he’s perfect for the IQ role. Utah is a pain in the neck to deal with on trades, as we learned a few years ago, but I would love this addition. We need a little more scoring punch off the bench.
Forget it. Ainge is trying to build a young winner. Why would he trade a good player in his prime for a guy who’s 35 and near the end?
doesn’t get traded for a star, one trade I saw on twitter that I actually kinda love is Bogie, a first this year and one of the protected picks for Colin Sexton.
Steps right into the IQ role that they never really replaced. Hes a character but I think he fits into the mentality of this team.
I think Sexton could potentially be a good fit here. And you kick the can forward in terms of having another mid sized contract on the books to use down the road. I think Utah will want at least one unprotected pick for him though.
doesn’t get traded for a star, one trade I saw on twitter that I actually kinda love is Bogie, a first this year and one of the protected picks for Colin Sexton.
He was the guy I wanted at the deadline, I agree he’s perfect for the IQ role. Utah is a pain in the neck to deal with on trades, as we learned a few years ago, but I would love this addition. We need a little more scoring punch off the bench.
Forget it. Ainge is trying to build a young winner. Why would he trade a good player in his prime for a guy who’s 35 and near the end?
It’s not about Bogie it’s about the picks. Bogie probably would get cut since he’s only 2 mil guaranteed.
Knicks need to find a dhnamic partner for Brunson, i like Randle i just dont think he is the dynamic scorer to play off of Brunson, especially in the playoffs..
I know the fit is iffy defensively but you can make it work, go get Mitchell and form a dynamic duo
I'm leaning towards rolling the dice on Mitchell - and paying what would certainly be a big price to get him. To me he moves the needle a LOT more than a guy like Bridges. Ideally we get him without giving up Randle and DVD/Hart. But I don't know if that's possible. And Cleveland, if they decide to trade him, is likely going to prioritize getting a wing in return.
doesn’t get traded for a star, one trade I saw on twitter that I actually kinda love is Bogie, a first this year and one of the protected picks for Colin Sexton.
He was the guy I wanted at the deadline, I agree he’s perfect for the IQ role. Utah is a pain in the neck to deal with on trades, as we learned a few years ago, but I would love this addition. We need a little more scoring punch off the bench.
Forget it. Ainge is trying to build a young winner. Why would he trade a good player in his prime for a guy who’s 35 and near the end?
It’s not about Bogie it’s about the picks. Bogie probably would get cut since he’s only 2 mil guaranteed.
I get it. He’s not going to do that for the 25th pick and a protected first. He wants opportunities for future picks to turn into lottery picks. Think 2 future unrestricted picks, plus two unrestricted swaps. His demand will be something close to that.
doesn’t get traded for a star, one trade I saw on twitter that I actually kinda love is Bogie, a first this year and one of the protected picks for Colin Sexton.
He was the guy I wanted at the deadline, I agree he’s perfect for the IQ role. Utah is a pain in the neck to deal with on trades, as we learned a few years ago, but I would love this addition. We need a little more scoring punch off the bench.
Forget it. Ainge is trying to build a young winner. Why would he trade a good player in his prime for a guy who’s 35 and near the end?
It’s not about Bogie it’s about the picks. Bogie probably would get cut since he’s only 2 mil guaranteed.
I get it. He’s not going to do that for the 25th pick and a protected first. He wants opportunities for future picks to turn into lottery picks. Think 2 future unrestricted picks, plus two unrestricted swaps. His demand will be something close to that.
I don’t think anyone is giving two unrestricted and two swaps for a 6th man. Maybe I’m wrong but I think he should be gettable at some level.
as an org don't appear to be in any hurry to contend (for now). Seems like Ainge can take his time and tread water. So if the offers don't blow him away he can hold onto Sexton until his deal expires in 25/26.
I don’t think anyone is giving two unrestricted and two swaps for a 6th man. Maybe I’m wrong but I think he should be gettable at some level.
I don’t think anyone is giving that either. But what incentive does Ainge have to trade away Sexton unless it’s for a significant overpay?
Only if they really want to bottom out. It is worth noting that if you expect him to leave his value will only go down the closer he gets to FA. Not too dissimilar to Donovan.
Only if they really want to bottom out. It is worth noting that if you expect him to leave his value will only go down the closer he gets to FA. Not too dissimilar to Donovan.
Even if that’s true, Ainge is under no immediate pressure to trade Sexton. He would have every reason to stretch trade negotiations out for months as he did with Mitchell. The Knicks need to move bogdanovic by the end of June . The dynamics are not in the Knicks favor.
Only if they really want to bottom out. It is worth noting that if you expect him to leave his value will only go down the closer he gets to FA. Not too dissimilar to Donovan.
Even if that’s true, Ainge is under no immediate pressure to trade Sexton. He would have every reason to stretch trade negotiations out for months as he did with Mitchell. The Knicks need to move bogdanovic by the end of June . The dynamics are not in the Knicks favor.
Stretch it out and the main buyer then can’t offer you anything which I don’t think makes sense.
playing for Thibs Butler's first few years in the league. He swears Thibs made Butler what he is. Was real tough on him, made him earn every minute. It sounds like a tough love kind of thing. Butler is a horrific fit for this team right now. He doesn't buy into that give it 100% every night especially in the regular season dog mentality at all. Plus I do not seeing him meshing well with another ball dominant superstar like Brunson at all.
RE: Brian Scalabrine was a scrub on the Bulls team when Butler was a kid
playing for Thibs Butler's first few years in the league. He swears Thibs made Butler what he is. Was real tough on him, made him earn every minute. It sounds like a tough love kind of thing. Butler is a horrific fit for this team right now. He doesn't buy into that give it 100% every night especially in the regular season dog mentality at all. Plus I do not seeing him meshing well with another ball dominant superstar like Brunson at all.
Butler is the definition of dog mentality, does he pace himself? 100% but if the Knicks want to make a run to a championship they are going to have to start pacing themselves as well..
and thats not me blaming Thibs for anything, last year was a crazy year with injuries but if this team wants to get to where they want and are as good as we hope, they need to atart pacing themselves especially towards the end of the year
Yeah Jimmy "pacing himself" has landed the Heat in the play-in
would be a terrible decision. Butler and the Heat are done. Butler's next important role will be as a veteran role player for a good team. He's not a lead dog anymore.
I’m supremely confident they’ll re-sign him but he is a fit on any team, especially Philly. How bout OG and Wemby together in San Antonio? Instantly an elite defensive team.
I’d be stunned if he’s not back. You don’t fight through what he did to come back for game 7 if you’re trying to leave NY.
Fwiw his primary agent isn’t Leon’s son. But the son is on OGs “team”
However, OG is smart to gauge his market value.
Not the max, no. But I think he’ll get north of 35 mil per. Probably close to 38-40.
That was my first thought as well, especially given the tampering complaints with Brunson. There is no chance the Knicks traded Quickley and RJ for OG without the broad strokes of a deal already agreed on, not when his agent is Rose's son.
AJ is that opinion or fact? As always thanks
If worse ckmes to worse the Knicks would up the offer if they had to..
Are we really going to pretend that a player represented by CAA hasnt already talked numbers with Leon Rose? the guy that recruited OG to CAA is Leon Rose's best friend lol
Looks like Trajan Langdon is getting the Detroit job - will that affect the trade market at all? You had mentioned something could happen depending on the hire.
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They traded quickley to let OG walk
Looks like Trajan Langdon is getting the Detroit job - will that affect the trade market at all? You had mentioned something could happen depending on the hire.
Could see the Pistons going hard after Ingram.
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They traded quickley to let OG walk
Looks like Trajan Langdon is getting the Detroit job - will that affect the trade market at all? You had mentioned something could happen depending on the hire.
It doesn’t sound like Weaver is going to get demoted and I don’t think Langdon would be proactive in trading Cade but I think it’s a matter of when not if Cade asks out
As others have pointed out, we can offer him an extra year and more money than any other team, so unless he hated being in NY I highly doubt he's going elsewhere.
Seems like a reporter trying to generate attention and get aggregated. Haven't seen any of the national reporters say something similar.
1. Do people like Macri? HIs general persona seems to irk me but I can't place my finger on why. CP interviewed Katz too yesterday and just did a much better job imo
2. Katz pretty strongly suggests the Knicks passed on Dejounte at the trade deadline for personality reasons
3. Mentions PG and Mikal specifically as guys that fit the Thibs mindset, but that's not sourcing but just a hunch he has
1. Do people like Macri? HIs general persona seems to irk me but I can't place my finger on why. CP interviewed Katz too yesterday and just did a much better job imo
2. Katz pretty strongly suggests the Knicks passed on Dejounte at the trade deadline for personality reasons
3. Mentions PG and Mikal specifically as guys that fit the Thibs mindset, but that's not sourcing but just a hunch he has
I used to enjoy Macri’s content, and still subscribe to his newsletter, but I feel like his stuff has gone downhill. Although it’s always been clear he’s a huge Knicks fan, I always felt like he did a pretty good job of having an objective view of the team. This year has moved further away from that with the more success the team has had. The second half of this season he’s veered into full on fanboy territory. I’ve actually been considering canceling my newsletter subscription because I find myself skimming through most of the material as he just falls all over himself to proclaim how much he just loves this team and everything they do.
1. Do people like Macri? HIs general persona seems to irk me but I can't place my finger on why. CP interviewed Katz too yesterday and just did a much better job imo
2. Katz pretty strongly suggests the Knicks passed on Dejounte at the trade deadline for personality reasons
3. Mentions PG and Mikal specifically as guys that fit the Thibs mindset, but that's not sourcing but just a hunch he has
Macri and Katz always go all over the place when they do a Pod togethee..
I thought another interesting thing was Katz syaing they are probably going to go around with BOjan and Mitch package with a ton of picks rather than with Randle to try and add to this team..
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listening to Fred Katz on the Knicks Film School pod.
1. Do people like Macri? HIs general persona seems to irk me but I can't place my finger on why. CP interviewed Katz too yesterday and just did a much better job imo
2. Katz pretty strongly suggests the Knicks passed on Dejounte at the trade deadline for personality reasons
3. Mentions PG and Mikal specifically as guys that fit the Thibs mindset, but that's not sourcing but just a hunch he has
I used to enjoy Macri’s content, and still subscribe to his newsletter, but I feel like his stuff has gone downhill. Although it’s always been clear he’s a huge Knicks fan, I always felt like he did a pretty good job of having an objective view of the team. This year has moved further away from that with the more success the team has had. The second half of this season he’s veered into full on fanboy territory. I’ve actually been considering canceling my newsletter subscription because I find myself skimming through most of the material as he just falls all over himself to proclaim how much he just loves this team and everything they do.
Macri is a good guy, really like him, but not sure how he got himself so embedded in the Knicks universe as I would assume he is a super-fan that just took off. He is not overly knowledgeable to me. Also, he changes his tune about players in almost every article. RJ Barrett is my favorite example as he LOVED him and then turned on him when he was traded and gave every example of why the Knicks traded him.
He spin cycled on it
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Macri never liked Rj or his fit with the team..
He spin cycled on it
I think like most Knicms fans, he hoped he was wrong and that he turned the corner during rh eplayoffs last year
I agree but I think Quickley was probably going to walk if we kept him cause he probably would get starter money and a chance to start on another team which we probably wouldn’t match.
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They traded quickley to let OG walk
I agree but I think Quickley was probably going to walk if we kept him cause he probably would get starter money and a chance to start on another team which we probably wouldn’t match.
What happens with Quickley this off season is going to be fascinating to me. I think there may be someone out there willing to pay him what he’s looking for but I still find it hard to believe that teams are going to be lining up to give him a massive contract. I like Quick and he’s a good player but overpaying him to be a focal point of a team will end up as a mistake, imo
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They traded quickley to let OG walk
I agree but I think Quickley was probably going to walk if we kept him cause he probably would get starter money and a chance to start on another team which we probably wouldn’t match.
What happens with Quickley this off season is going to be fascinating to me. I think there may be someone out there willing to pay him what he’s looking for but I still find it hard to believe that teams are going to be lining up to give him a massive contract. I like Quick and he’s a good player but overpaying him to be a focal point of a team will end up as a mistake, imo
I think he stays in Toronto, they view him as a great fit next to Barnes, can play off of him or with the ball..
The question for Toronto is though how much you going to give him and is building around Quick, Rj and Barnes really going to take you anywhere?
1. Do people like Macri? HIs general persona seems to irk me but I can't place my finger on why. CP interviewed Katz too yesterday and just did a much better job imo
2. Katz pretty strongly suggests the Knicks passed on Dejounte at the trade deadline for personality reasons
3. Mentions PG and Mikal specifically as guys that fit the Thibs mindset, but that's not sourcing but just a hunch he has
I happen to enjoy KFS and Macri. But he is an acquired taste. DJ and Benji have the x&os down while Jeremy really understands the cap. IMHO macro is the face that keeps it together and can run people the wrong way. These are just fans with opinions.
Katz on the other hand has the pulse of the team and will drop nuggets in various podcasts. Check out the one he did with KFTV
Even though Bronny stinks. He isn't even a P5 level college player, let alone a NBA player. Lebron should be ashamed of himself.
Katz on the other hand has the pulse of the team and will drop nuggets in various podcasts. Check out the one he did with KFTV
Thanks for the heads up. I watched it today. Yeah it was great. Katz is probably the best most thoughtful guy on the Knicks beat. He doesn't let emotions cloud his opinion either. CP really just led him into topics and let him go on. Probably a 1% or less that OG leaves. The more I look at it I keep Randle and use Bojan and picks maybe Mitch if you have to throw him in to improve the team. PG is the type of guy you could land with that package. I'm not crazy counting on PG as the #2 star because health wise he's not reliable at all. However you keep Randle and OG he fits in real nicely in that starting lineup. I also am into what I mentioned earlier getting DeRozan in a sign and trade along with Caruso for Bojan & picks.
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Katz on the other hand has the pulse of the team and will drop nuggets in various podcasts. Check out the one he did with KFTV
Thanks for the heads up. I watched it today. Yeah it was great. Katz is probably the best most thoughtful guy on the Knicks beat. He doesn't let emotions cloud his opinion either. CP really just led him into topics and let him go on. Probably a 1% or less that OG leaves. The more I look at it I keep Randle and use Bojan and picks maybe Mitch if you have to throw him in to improve the team. PG is the type of guy you could land with that package. I'm not crazy counting on PG as the #2 star because health wise he's not reliable at all. However you keep Randle and OG he fits in real nicely in that starting lineup. I also am into what I mentioned earlier getting DeRozan in a sign and trade along with Caruso for Bojan & picks.
I would sign up for Mitch and Bojan for PG. But we'd have to be ready to max him it sounds like, or the Sixers will. But in a vacuum yes I'd do that. If it goes well that's a championship level move. Love PG as a big 2 and secondary creator.
I also would be in for Derozan and Caruso. Love Derozan as a 6th man of the year candidate and second unit initiator. Could play really well next to Deuce and I guess Caruso.
I'd prioritize:
1. Booker
2. Bridges
3. PG
4. Derozan
but I'd trade Bogie and Mitch for any of them. (I do know Booker would require Randle leaving)
Would captain the bench unit with Deuce. The fit on the bench with Hart isn't great as two non shooters, but maybe they can get away with it.
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Despite reports this week casting doubt on a deal between the two sides, sources say that both OG Anunoby’s camp and the New York Knicks expect that an agreement will be reached for the 26-year old to stay in NY.
The Knicks were 27-9 with Anunoby playing including the playoffs
Guess no star hunting for them, ciuld also mean Bridges is available for draft picks
Guess no star hunting for them, ciuld also mean Bridges is available for draft picks
He's what I don't understand, there's been a bunch of media pushing the idea of Julius and first round picks for just Bridges. The lol Knicks tax and days of bad deals are over. I don't want to hand over a 3 x all star and 2 x all NBA player for a guy who averaged 20ppg in one season.
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Guess no star hunting for them, ciuld also mean Bridges is available for draft picks
He's what I don't understand, there's been a bunch of media pushing the idea of Julius and first round picks for just Bridges. The lol Knicks tax and days of bad deals are over. I don't want to hand over a 3 x all star and 2 x all NBA player for a guy who averaged 20ppg in one season.
Yeah there's no way they're moving Julies for Bridges.
I think the Rockets have to be the overwhelming favorites to get him just because they can send the Nets their picks back.
I do wonder if there is anything we would have the Rockets would want to make it a 3 way trade. On the surface doesn't seem like a great trade partner for us.
Like if they swing something like Mitch / bogs / 3+ picks for bridges.
Jalen /bridges /og / Randle /Ihart
McBride / Donte/ hart / backup big
Like if they swing something like Mitch / bogs / 3+ picks for bridges.
Jalen /bridges /og / Randle /Ihart
McBride / Donte/ hart / backup big
yes if they time everything right, thats why everyone expects the Knicks to make their big move this offseason
Knicks send out: Bojan, Mitch and Deuce
Nets get KAT and Deuce
Nets send Bridges, DFS, Schroeder
Minnesota get Bojan, Mitch, DFS, Schroeder and maybe a couple of draft picks..
Knicks finish their Nova connection and Bridges gets his wish and Knicks dont have to trade Randle..
Nets get a homegrown "star" to build around without giving up all of their picks.
Minnesota trade KAT to save themselves a reidiculous bill and adds cost controlled players that can really help their depth and fit around Edwards..
The best case for the Nets is the Rockets want Bridges so they can get their picks back but after Jalen Green's emergence to end the year who really knows.
If not I guess they sort of have to just try to get better?
The best case for the Nets is the Rockets want Bridges so they can get their picks back but after Jalen Green's emergence to end the year who really knows.
If not I guess they sort of have to just try to get better?
Yeah the Nets are confusing, their owner says he wants a long term build but their GM always talks about adding stars
I am very skeptical of this. I think the fit is iffy and both sides know it. Seems like there is really momentum for him to stay and re-tool in Cleveland. Maybe they get Johnny Bryant too.
Mitchell-Ingram-Mobley is an interesting core as is Garland-Trey-Herb-Zion
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I think all the talk of Knicks wont be as agressive is all a smoke screen for when he becomes available, i think their dream scenario was always Brunson, Mitchell and OG
I am very skeptical of this. I think the fit is iffy and both sides know it. Seems like there is really momentum for him to stay and re-tool in Cleveland. Maybe they get Johnny Bryant too.
I jist cant see Mitchell signing long term in Cleveland unless they trade for a star, he kNows him and Garland doesnt work and he knows the Mobely/Allen frontcourt doesnt work..
They traded their future firsts in the Mitchell deal, i just dont see Mitchell staying there
Definitely would need to add another 3 and d wing but i think you can absolutely make it work, especially offensively
thats the thing though, he doesnt need to re up, he has another year after thisbyesr if he wants it and getting traded now his bird rights go with him, he isnt getting anymore money signing with Cleceland
Knicks get bridges
ATL gets Randle and Finney Smith
BK gets Trae Young
Also saw Randle and a pick as well as a future pick swap for Markkenan.
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Also if needed they will trade Randle to either save money or in a star trade..
They value OG more than Randle
Tyrese is a liability defensively
Tyrese is a liability defensively
We see a lot of things the same way. Had the same thought about 10 minutes ago.
2). Jaylen Brown smacking TJ McConnell in the face.
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Pacers would be good if they traded Tyrese for a legit 3 and d wing and started nembhard..
Tyrese is a liability defensively
We see a lot of things the same way. Had the same thought about 10 minutes ago.
Its kind of crazy because Haliburton is a great player but what does he do so much better than Nembhard? passing?
Pacers made it to the ECF bit i feel like they need big changes still
Fucker cost me $300 on my parlay...
They need a 3 and d wing, maybe 2..
Pacers made it to the ECF bit i feel like they need big changes still
And we saw Sacramento trade him for Sabonis, put the ball in Fox’s hands, and immediately go from bottom feeder to playoff caliber team. My dislike of him aside, he’s a difficult guy to build around - bad defense, no midrange game, not great at the rim, doesn’t get to the FT line.
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It’s kind of crazy because Haliburton is a great player but what does he do so much better than Nembhard? passing?
Pacers made it to the ECF bit i feel like they need big changes still
And we saw Sacramento trade him for Sabonis, put the ball in Fox’s hands, and immediately go from bottom feeder to playoff caliber team. My dislike of him aside, he’s a difficult guy to build around - bad defense, no midrange game, not great at the rim, doesn’t get to the FT line.
Yup, he is flashy so he will get the highlights on espn and hyoed up by wanna be analysts but if you sit down and watch him play, he has a lot of holes..
and his biggest issue? The fact he is a front running nozzle, dances on the court and talks a lot when he is winning but when the team needs him or is losing, he is nowhere to be found
Steps right into the IQ role that they never really replaced. Hes a character but I think he fits into the mentality of this team.
He was the guy I wanted at the deadline, I agree he’s perfect for the IQ role. Utah is a pain in the neck to deal with on trades, as we learned a few years ago, but I would love this addition. We need a little more scoring punch off the bench.
I know the fit is iffy defensively but you can make it work, go get Mitchell and form a dynamic duo
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doesn’t get traded for a star, one trade I saw on twitter that I actually kinda love is Bogie, a first this year and one of the protected picks for Colin Sexton.
He was the guy I wanted at the deadline, I agree he’s perfect for the IQ role. Utah is a pain in the neck to deal with on trades, as we learned a few years ago, but I would love this addition. We need a little more scoring punch off the bench.
Forget it. Ainge is trying to build a young winner. Why would he trade a good player in his prime for a guy who’s 35 and near the end?
Steps right into the IQ role that they never really replaced. Hes a character but I think he fits into the mentality of this team.
I think Sexton could potentially be a good fit here. And you kick the can forward in terms of having another mid sized contract on the books to use down the road. I think Utah will want at least one unprotected pick for him though.
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doesn’t get traded for a star, one trade I saw on twitter that I actually kinda love is Bogie, a first this year and one of the protected picks for Colin Sexton.
He was the guy I wanted at the deadline, I agree he’s perfect for the IQ role. Utah is a pain in the neck to deal with on trades, as we learned a few years ago, but I would love this addition. We need a little more scoring punch off the bench.
Forget it. Ainge is trying to build a young winner. Why would he trade a good player in his prime for a guy who’s 35 and near the end?
It’s not about Bogie it’s about the picks. Bogie probably would get cut since he’s only 2 mil guaranteed.
I know the fit is iffy defensively but you can make it work, go get Mitchell and form a dynamic duo
I'm leaning towards rolling the dice on Mitchell - and paying what would certainly be a big price to get him. To me he moves the needle a LOT more than a guy like Bridges. Ideally we get him without giving up Randle and DVD/Hart. But I don't know if that's possible. And Cleveland, if they decide to trade him, is likely going to prioritize getting a wing in return.
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doesn’t get traded for a star, one trade I saw on twitter that I actually kinda love is Bogie, a first this year and one of the protected picks for Colin Sexton.
He was the guy I wanted at the deadline, I agree he’s perfect for the IQ role. Utah is a pain in the neck to deal with on trades, as we learned a few years ago, but I would love this addition. We need a little more scoring punch off the bench.
Forget it. Ainge is trying to build a young winner. Why would he trade a good player in his prime for a guy who’s 35 and near the end?
It’s not about Bogie it’s about the picks. Bogie probably would get cut since he’s only 2 mil guaranteed.
I get it. He’s not going to do that for the 25th pick and a protected first. He wants opportunities for future picks to turn into lottery picks. Think 2 future unrestricted picks, plus two unrestricted swaps. His demand will be something close to that.
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doesn’t get traded for a star, one trade I saw on twitter that I actually kinda love is Bogie, a first this year and one of the protected picks for Colin Sexton.
He was the guy I wanted at the deadline, I agree he’s perfect for the IQ role. Utah is a pain in the neck to deal with on trades, as we learned a few years ago, but I would love this addition. We need a little more scoring punch off the bench.
Forget it. Ainge is trying to build a young winner. Why would he trade a good player in his prime for a guy who’s 35 and near the end?
It’s not about Bogie it’s about the picks. Bogie probably would get cut since he’s only 2 mil guaranteed.
I get it. He’s not going to do that for the 25th pick and a protected first. He wants opportunities for future picks to turn into lottery picks. Think 2 future unrestricted picks, plus two unrestricted swaps. His demand will be something close to that.
I don’t think anyone is giving two unrestricted and two swaps for a 6th man. Maybe I’m wrong but I think he should be gettable at some level.
I don’t think anyone is giving two unrestricted and two swaps for a 6th man. Maybe I’m wrong but I think he should be gettable at some level.
I don’t think anyone is giving that either. But what incentive does Ainge have to trade away Sexton unless it’s for a significant overpay?
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I don’t think anyone is giving two unrestricted and two swaps for a 6th man. Maybe I’m wrong but I think he should be gettable at some level.
I don’t think anyone is giving that either. But what incentive does Ainge have to trade away Sexton unless it’s for a significant overpay?
Only if they really want to bottom out. It is worth noting that if you expect him to leave his value will only go down the closer he gets to FA. Not too dissimilar to Donovan.
Only if they really want to bottom out. It is worth noting that if you expect him to leave his value will only go down the closer he gets to FA. Not too dissimilar to Donovan.
Even if that’s true, Ainge is under no immediate pressure to trade Sexton. He would have every reason to stretch trade negotiations out for months as he did with Mitchell. The Knicks need to move bogdanovic by the end of June . The dynamics are not in the Knicks favor.
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Only if they really want to bottom out. It is worth noting that if you expect him to leave his value will only go down the closer he gets to FA. Not too dissimilar to Donovan.
Even if that’s true, Ainge is under no immediate pressure to trade Sexton. He would have every reason to stretch trade negotiations out for months as he did with Mitchell. The Knicks need to move bogdanovic by the end of June . The dynamics are not in the Knicks favor.
Stretch it out and the main buyer then can’t offer you anything which I don’t think makes sense.
Stretch it out and the main buyer then can’t offer you anything which I don’t think makes sense.
What makes the Knicks the main buyer? And in any case: the Knicks were the main buyer for Mitchell and you see how that worked out.
Ant not looking great either
Ant not looking great either
Get ready for the rumors of Kat to the Knicks
On and off the court he is a fit, he has played for Thibs before, he has that same mentality as the Nova 3, he plays defense, he can score..
He wouldnt be my first choice or even my second choice but if it comes down to it i wouldnt mind it..
Brunson, Divencenzo,Butler, OG, Hartenstein..
Deuce, Hart and Mitch off the bench..
That is a team no one would want to play
In that drunken video he said he loves Thibs but not "in love" with Thjbs
Butler is the definition of dog mentality, does he pace himself? 100% but if the Knicks want to make a run to a championship they are going to have to start pacing themselves as well..
and thats not me blaming Thibs for anything, last year was a crazy year with injuries but if this team wants to get to where they want and are as good as we hope, they need to atart pacing themselves especially towards the end of the year
He has also had to be their best player