More North/South versus East/West passing might help
That wasn’t the best Panthers can play. They can actually bring more physicality.
I’m ready to see Zac Jones play.
Igor needs to play sharper than the first game.
Agree totally about shooting more in O zone.
whatever his future holds on Broadway or the NHL, Rempe cracks me up.
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@MollieeWalker: #NYR Matt Rempe says he, Adam Edström and Edström’s girlfriend went to an escape room together the other day and No. 73 says he absolutely crushed all the puzzles.
Ros or Vesey would be my choice (well, Rempe would be my choice, but if he's in...), though at the level these guys have all been contributing, I don't think it makes that much difference. I am glad it sounds like Chytil is staying in.
If Kakko sits, I have to believe it's due to injury, not a healthy scratch. he's been a 0 offensively, but a lot of the team has and he plays better D than most.
This place would go nuts if it were for Wheeler or even Brodzinski. (this won't happen, it's between Kakko and Rempe from what Vince says and because he also says both will warm up it is IMO likely due to injury) to Kakko).
Gretzky and the talking heads after the Dallas game last night, and they were all in agreement that Rempe needs to get in the lineup somewhere. Said he can play physical and is decent with the puck, while stating the Rangers have change some things up starting with him.
I think you all discussed Rempe in the previous game thread, so your thoughts about that were definitely in line with the "experts". I definitely respect Gretzky and what he says.
Opinion. Dress 7 defensemen, playing Jones on the third or fourth line. Dress Rempee. Sit two of the other forwards who played game 1. When the fights occur, you have jones to play defense and therefore you won’t overplay a hurt Fox. Crazy opinion.
Opinion. Dress 7 defensemen, playing Jones on the third or fourth line. Dress Rempee. Sit two of the other forwards who played game 1. When the fights occur, you have jones to play defense and therefore you won’t overplay a hurt Fox. Crazy opinion.
I don't agree at all, but I love out of the box thinking, lol.
RE: Glad you're not all burnt up and crispy, Brett....
Kakko is a better all around player than Rempe. No question!!!
If the Rangers D can’t get the puck out of the D zone what the hell is Rempe going to do????
Also what happens when the Panthers turn the heat up more physically?
Wednesday night was not their best effort.
It’s time for the Rangers to man up.
In the last 3 games they have played one awesome period the third against the Canes.
If Kakko sits, I have to believe it's due to injury, not a healthy scratch. he's been a 0 offensively, but a lot of the team has and he plays better D than most.
Never mind that it was KK's deft outlet that sprung Schneider on the hit the pipe breakaway, threaded it between two CAR d-men.
It's not the move I'd make (I'd probably sit Vesey if they want to bring in Rempe) but I'm also not going to be as frustrated by it as I was two years ago when Gallant did it. At some point there needs to be a hint of offensive instincts shown by Kakko. He does a lot of good things in possession. But there is so little production to show for it and it rarely feels like he's even looking to push for his own offense. Sort of just content to cycle the puck and get off. It has value for a depth player, but where is the growth? Non-center, doesn't play much special teams, I can understand if he's the odd man out. Offseason topic, but feels like a fresh start is needed
need to put on their big boy pants tonight. Hidden in the Kreider hat trick show for the ages is 8 periods of very bad hockey in the last three games.
dlauster, posted the following in SCP thread after Game 6 win over CAR and before Wed night:
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Since 2022, I've critiqued CK (and Zib) loud and often for their disappearing acts in SCP. It's a good thing I wasn't around last week because I may not have been able to hold my tongue through periods 1 and 2 Thursday night (still haven't seen it) and would likely have eaten major crow. But Thursday is not the end of it, it only marked a new beginning. I will almost guarantee that the team's bi-polar ability is alive and well. Every team has its periods of poor play and wtf moments, it just seems like the Rangers' are uglier than most. Valiquette doesn't spare them (or the 'less than 100%' of particular players), he speaks in code. You're in good company.
Roslovic (Kyle spot on earlier: his mind-numbingly unnecessary high stick behind Bob's net essentially ended the team's great start to 2nd and he is a fly by checker, i.e., he doesn't) and Wennberg have been underwhelming at best, not the Copp and Vatrano of '22. All the folks clamoring for Chytil to play more--I don't know what they expect from a guy who hasn't played since November due to a debilitating injury/condition.
And a bunch of us said it then: Lavvy's benching of Jones with 5-6 games left in regular season was a mistake: yeah, he's not big and not esp. physical and he's a mismatch for FLA's powerful Fs, but right now Fox is hobbled and it's also affecting his decision making.
did anyone catch Maurice's comments mid-1st to Emily Kaplan--oh, my! Maybe I'm old (I am) but did you see her dress, almost Calgary Stampede stuff! I'm becoming a fan--as I heard Maurice, he essentially said he didn't care if Barkov, this season's Frank Selke Award winner, wasn't line matched against Zib and company, the import to me being that NYR 'first' line does not cause particular concern. Now why would that be?
One last: we were at Rehoboth last week visiting good friends in Lewes, DE, so I was out of town for Game 6, a good luck charm no doubt. Many will be glad to know we're out of the country from end of May through mid-June, so victory over the Panthers is assured.
LGR!! Come on boys, just do it!!
And has been on the ice for only two opposition goals through the playoffs. Sure, he's the problem.
Yeah, I get it, he's not scoring. But he isn't hurting them either, not by a long shot.
I don't think he would be sitting as a healthy scratch. Would he? I hadn't heard that explanation.
but...xGF% is not really an individual stat IMO (any more than plus minus is - and Kakko is 12th on the team in plus minus with negative 1). Further to that, Kakko has just 2 points in the playoffs. Only a few players on the team who have played more than 2 playoff games have less ppg (Cuylle who is 2nd in hits for forwards, Wennberg and Rempe who is statistically basically tied with Kakko in ppg for the playoffs).
Again though, I wasn't suggesting to sit Kakko as a healthy scratch and it doesn't sound like that's why he'd sit - it seems like an injury otherwise why would he warm up)?
He's declined to reveal his lineup choices to the media and took the additional step of masking combinations at Friday's morning skate, adding intrigue in the lead-up to 8 p.m. puck drop against the Florida Panthers at Madison Square Garden.
There were a few hints, with Filip Chytil wearing the same blue jersey as top-liners Chris Kreider and Mika Zibanejad while trade-deadline addition Jack Roslovic dropped down to bottom-six group. And then there was Rempe and Kaapo Kakko staying on the ice a bit later than the rest of the regulars, but also coming off before the known healthy scratches.
The simple math says that one of those two can't play in Game 2 of this Eastern Conference Final, but then again, Laviolette has pulled the old switch-a-roo a few times already in these playoffs.
They need the top lines to step up to win, plain and simple. Six minutes of Matt Rempe instead of Kakko isn't going to move the needle at all when it comes to putting pucks in nets.
And has been on the ice for only two opposition goals through the playoffs. Sure, he's the problem.
Yeah, I get it, he's not scoring. But he isn't hurting them either, not by a long shot.
A third line winger is controlling puck possession, playing great defensive hockey, but not scoring... I mean, that's why he's on the third line.
I hear you, but a third line for a team trying to win the cup has to contribute more than 2 goals in 11 games. It's not just about zone time and possession
4 goals 9 points in 40 playoff games for KK playing mostly 3rd line minutes. I like the kid but at some point you need more. I still wouldn't take him out. But it's not egregious
did anyone catch Maurice's comments mid-1st to Emily Kaplan--oh, my! Maybe I'm old (I am) but did you see her dress, almost Calgary Stampede stuff! I'm becoming a fan--as I heard Maurice, he essentially said he didn't care if Barkov, this season's Frank Selke Award winner, wasn't line matched against Zib and company, the import to me being that NYR 'first' line does not cause particular concern. Now why would that be?
One last: we were at Rehoboth last week visiting good friends in Lewes, DE, so I was out of town for Game 6, a good luck charm no doubt. Many will be glad to know we're out of the country from end of May through mid-June, so victory over the Panthers is assured.
LGR!! Come on boys, just do it!!
New rule: you can't complain about a player one game removed from a third period hat trick that saved the season. You have to wait a full series after ;)
I've never understood why they don't play Kakko on the penalty kill
Oof, another playoff benching for Kakko. I hope he handles this one a little better.
The kid needs a different off-season program. He needs to be able to do more in the offensive zone than just cycle the puck. He really needs to learn how to drive to the net with the puck.
RE: RE: RE: Kakko leads the team in xGF with 59.9%
need to put on their big boy pants tonight. Hidden in the Kreider hat trick show for the ages is 8 periods of very bad hockey in the last three games.
dlauster, posted the following in SCP thread after Game 6 win over CAR and before Wed night:
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Since 2022, I've critiqued CK (and Zib) loud and often for their disappearing acts in SCP. It's a good thing I wasn't around last week because I may not have been able to hold my tongue through periods 1 and 2 Thursday night (still haven't seen it) and would likely have eaten major crow. But Thursday is not the end of it, it only marked a new beginning. I will almost guarantee that the team's bi-polar ability is alive and well. Every team has its periods of poor play and wtf moments, it just seems like the Rangers' are uglier than most. Valiquette doesn't spare them (or the 'less than 100%' of particular players), he speaks in code. You're in good company.
Roslovic (Kyle spot on earlier: his mind-numbingly unnecessary high stick behind Bob's net essentially ended the team's great start to 2nd and he is a fly by checker, i.e., he doesn't) and Wennberg have been underwhelming at best, not the Copp and Vatrano of '22. All the folks clamoring for Chytil to play more--I don't know what they expect from a guy who hasn't played since November due to a debilitating injury/condition.
And a bunch of us said it then: Lavvy's benching of Jones with 5-6 games left in regular season was a mistake: yeah, he's not big and not esp. physical and he's a mismatch for FLA's powerful Fs, but right now Fox is hobbled and it's also affecting his decision making.
I don't get benching him. Seems like Roslovic is the obvious candidate if you have to get Rempe in the lineup.
As far as 73 goes, there seem to be a decent amount of smart hockey guys that feel he should be dressed. Maybe there is some sort of 4D Chess that I don't see - maybe he attracts enough attention from Tkachuk, Cousins, Bennet, etc that Fla gets off their game? Just spitballing here...
Listened to some NHL network on Sirius while driving today. Consistent point was that Rempe or no Rempe, KK or no KK, if the top 6 don't put the puck in the net, none of that matters. Obvious point, but likely correct.
We'll see how this goes. I'm generally a pessimist, but feel strangely confident tonight.
calling the lineup shots (not sure) two separate head coaches have sat Kakko in the playoffs.
I don't think coaches are omniscient and can't get it wrong sometimes but when there's a pattern you have to wonder what as fans we don't see.
I am surprised Kakko is a healthy scratch and I mentioned his lack of offensive success, maybe the coaches think in an environment when they can control match ups to an extent and "shelter" Rempe that his positive influence on the lineup outweighs Kakko's.
It does seem a little panicked to me. I did not agree with others about game 1. I thought the Rangers played ok in game 1. a flukey goal plus a seemingly soft goal vs Bobrovsky stopping all the HD scoring chances was the difference in the outcome. The Rangers didn't dominate zone play, but I don't think they did against CAR either. FLA had less HD scoring chances I believe.
When you get a scoring opportunity bury it.
You can’t go 10+ minutes in a period without a shot.
PP must score a goal tonight
Time for the top 6 forwards to make a difference
In comment 16523825 dlauster said:
Quote: need to put on their big boy pants tonight. Hidden in the Kreider hat trick show for the ages is 8 periods of very bad hockey in the last three games.///////
dlauster, posted the following in SCP thread after Game 6 win over CAR and before Wed night:
dlauster, no, it was not your quote, that's why there's a comma after your name, it was my quote
I don't give a flying fuck if Rempe is in the game....
he said that before game 1 too when he was hounded by the media asking him questions about Rempe. I think fans (and even the media) make more of a deal about him than some teams do.
In comment 16523825 dlauster said:
Quote: need to put on their big boy pants tonight. Hidden in the Kreider hat trick show for the ages is 8 periods of very bad hockey in the last three games.///////
dlauster, posted the following in SCP thread after Game 6 win over CAR and before Wed night:
dlauster, no, it was not your quote, that's why there's a comma after your name, it was my quote
Got it! Sorry.
The chemistry of the 3rd line hasn’t been great with Cullye off of it.
I think a big part of Rempe being out there is that he’ll park his ass right in front of Bobrovsky. There wasn’t enough of that in game one. Hopefully he won’t make any glaring defensive zone errors.
As others have said, the defensive zone turnovers have to stop. It would be one thing if it were the result of forechecking, but quite a few of the turnovers were flubs and dumb decisions.
Roslovic stinks. I was hoping they would get a proven goal scorer like Guentzel or even Tarasenko, but they went to the bargain bin to get Roslovic and Wennberg (Nothingburger).
I think the biggest problem with Kakko is that he was a second overall pick so people expect more than a defensively responsible forward. I can't say I blame them, but at this point, he is what he is. You don't evaluate his play based on his draft status years ago. Since Lavvy was not in charge when they drafted him, I tend to think what he sees in Kakko is not all that great.
should have been a five minute major penalty. The main point of contact was the head, not the body. He also lined him up. It wasn't a "bang bang" play. And the Rangers player didn't have the puck.
That’s one of the worst calls I’ve ever seen. Goodrow barely touched Barkov, but because Barkov fell they called interference. And it ended up costing us.
That’s one of the worst calls I’ve ever seen. Goodrow barely touched Barkov, but because Barkov fell they called interference. And it ended up costing us.
Horrendous call
He wasnt touched and then spun around and fell. They have to be better than this in the playoffs.
I just have no confidence we can match the intensity
For 60 minutes and if we can’t, we are going to lose this series quickly. The last six or seven minutes we were gassed and it just couldn’t keep up.
I don't think they're gassed. They just won't continue to hit. They wilted the second Zibby got leveled. They lost a 2 on 1 behind the net when they started with possession for crying out loud. They're unwilling. Not tired.
Panthers are dirty and like to get under team’s skin. Feel like after that dirty hit on Weine burger Rangers were more focused on laying a big hit than puck possession.
This has low key been a terrible game for Zibanejad
Causes Fox to take a penalty. Is Panarin playing timid? He wants no part of contact in my view. He had no reason to make that bone headed play other than a Panther was coming
RE: Roslovic is another guy who has had a piss poor game
for fans, but this is a pretty awesome playoff hockey game.
Rangers outhitting FLA by 10 (34 to 24) but it's partly because the Rangers are turning the puck over.
Rangers still losing the face off battle and they NEED to capitalize on the PP. I like the way it looked with Gus as the QB more than Fox. I would stick with that.
Rangers have the edge in expected goals. Need bodies in front of Bobrovsky.
making adjustments. Panthers crushing on the dots, Lavy puts Goodrow out there for the defensive face-offs in OT where the stakes are higher, it pays off
Rangers end up with the face off lead for the game too.
got to work on clearing their own zone more quickly. Fla's game is to forecheck, and if NYR clear the zone without giving Fla the chance to forecheck they're way ahead in the game. Second, for the Love of God, shoot the puck AND shoot it on net. Rebound goals will make all the difference, and if the puck isn't on net they're not likely to score. Get a split in Fla, win game 5 in NY, and they'll likely move on the Finals (knock wood).
Breadman is playing scared. He's ghosting this game.
I agree but why?
I think Bread tends to back off in physical games but he needs to use his speed to avoid checks and create shots. Also Kreider needs to get his head out of his ass and show up in the game. Big Z off after the big hit he took. I hope nothing is wrong with him and he can just shake it off for the next game. BUT the team showed up in OT and got the mch needed win. LGR!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Goody gets us right back in it. I thought Rangers were better tonight but Panthers are shutting our offense down. Tough team. Lav should play who he wants. No problem with KK sitting. He is in the pool of options for starting spot now .
A bunch, and that’s an incredible shot. The goalie read the play pretty well and is moving to his right basically with the pass. They didn’t show a direct front/ back view but there could only have been a tiny window for a split second to hit that top corner and he absolutely sticks it. Unlike the last series, this guy is not giving up anything soft. Had to be a perfect shot and it was, season on the line.
huge win, now get 1 in FLA. Smashmouth hockey at it's finest
A bunch, and that’s an incredible shot. The goalie read the play pretty well and is moving to his right basically with the pass. They didn’t show a direct front/ back view but there could only have been a tiny window for a split second to hit that top corner and he absolutely sticks it. Unlike the last series, this guy is not giving up anything soft. Had to be a perfect shot and it was, season on the line.
I saw between Game 1 and Game 1 was that the Rangers overall were much more disruptive. Guys laid bodies every chance they got. Laf laid a hit to make a play on the Trocheck goal that opened up the ice right in front for Vinny to walk in backside untouched to the doorstep. Rempe is a spark plug, listen to the Garden when they see him heading in to forecheck. This was Goodrows best game, the GWG, and he was laying the body every chance he got.
A bunch, and that’s an incredible shot. The goalie read the play pretty well and is moving to his right basically with the pass. They didn’t show a direct front/ back view but there could only have been a tiny window for a split second to hit that top corner and he absolutely sticks it. Unlike the last series, this guy is not giving up anything soft. Had to be a perfect shot and it was, season on the line.
This one is pretty good - ( New Window )
Thanks. Slowed to .25x it looks like a maybe 6" window; Bobrovsky closes most of it with his blocker but the shot gets by anyway. It had to be a vertical puck-width. Perfect snipe.
I saw between Game 1 and Game 1 was that the Rangers overall were much more disruptive. Guys laid bodies every chance they got. Laf laid a hit to make a play on the Trocheck goal that opened up the ice right in front for Vinny to walk in backside untouched to the doorstep. Rempe is a spark plug, listen to the Garden when they see him heading in to forecheck. This was Goodrows best game, the GWG, and he was laying the body every chance he got.
Rempe for all his green-ness. Needs to be in the lineup. Last night and the regular season show the difference when he's in the lineup.
Yep. The Vesey thing didn't look good. I'm guessing Kakko is back in.
And I wonder if Laviolette would insert Wheeler back in the lineup and take out Roslovic. Roslovic has been awful this series and so has the first line. Kreider-Zibanejad-Wheeler at least had a modicum of success during the season. Couple that with Wheeler's experience and maybe he plays tomorrow afternoon over Roslovic.
Just a thought. Wheeler is a fucking slug out there, though.
effect was as great as fans make it, but good to see him get more than 5-6 min (through three periods). It means the other lines still had some gas. Being on the ice in the final few min and even at least once in OT has to help build confidence.
but if you have not seen it you have to watch his post-game. it is clear why he's a fan favorite with his style of play and his off-ice attitude. He even got a "jiminy crickets" in there. lol.
there was much more Mike-Kreider-Chytil vs Reinhart-Barkov-Tarasenko in game 2 as opposed to game 1. I think that was intentional by Lavy. And that FLA line didn't score or really even have sustained pressure or high danger chances. In fact I'd say Barkov's D was needed to prevent the NYR top line from scoring. That FLA line combined (not just even strength so somewhat skewed) had 6 shots on net. Barkov was sub 50% on face offs (he is averaging 55% in the playoffs)
In a series like this I think you take that, if your top line and their top line cancel each other that's ok.
I thought Chytil has been more noticeable in two games then Wheeler or Roslovic have been in a lot of games.
He has some rust no doubt, and he was very fortunate to not get called for interference or holding or something on the play he lost his stick when Barkov took the puck off him at the blue line, but his presence change transforms that line IMO.
frankly, they were in the cup final last year.
At the beginning of this season, they were a favorite to return.
NY has to figure out Florida’s defense to generate more offense, especially with Fox hobbled.
They aren’t winning this series, with a bunch of 2-1
wins.
there was much more Mike-Kreider-Chytil vs Reinhart-Barkov-Tarasenko in game 2 as opposed to game 1. I think that was intentional by Lavy. And that FLA line didn't score or really even have sustained pressure or high danger chances. In fact I'd say Barkov's D was needed to prevent the NYR top line from scoring. That FLA line combined (not just even strength so somewhat skewed) had 6 shots on net. Barkov was sub 50% on face offs (he is averaging 55% in the playoffs)
In a series like this I think you take that, if your top line and their top line cancel each other that's ok.
I thought Chytil has been more noticeable in two games then Wheeler or Roslovic have been in a lot of games.
He has some rust no doubt, and he was very fortunate to not get called for interference or holding or something on the play he lost his stick when Barkov took the puck off him at the blue line, but his presence change transforms that line IMO.
At one point, I wasn’t even sure that Tarasenko was playing. That’s how unnoticeable he was.
I actually liked Roslo and Cuylle on the same line. They brought a lot of speed and energy.
On one of the power plays, it seemed like Foxy was dragging his leg around. He waved himself off while the rest of the first unit was still out there. He’s battling.
As others have mentioned, the gap between Bobrovsky and the previous goalies the Rangers faced is Grand Canyon-esque.
The Rangers have to feel good about the fact they’ve yet to allow a non-fluke 5v5 goal and that the high danger chance thru two games seems to be even at worst, but perhaps tilting in their favor.
That was a battle. And another mark in this team's favor in terms of responding to adversity. A noticeable difference in compete level from game 1. Getting in on the forecheck, winning puck battles, taking the body. A lot of guys responded well to the challenge. Even guys that are noticeably struggling like Roslovic or Wennberg are still competing for pucks and battling. That was big boy hockey last night. It's not going to be perfect, 60 minutes of beautiful hockey. Florida is too good at mucking it up. But they were persistent, the better team in OT, deserved win.
Chytil is noticeably getting more comfortable out there. He's going to score soon. Keep him on that first line wing. Agreed to those saying a strong game from Trouba. His ability to lay a hit and knock guys off pucks is important in this series. One of the better games for the Trouba/Miller pair in a long time. K'Andre skating the puck out to break the forecheck, let's see more of that. Can't say enough about Trocheck. Mika has his hands full with Barkov but I thought he really competed (what a monster Barkov is by the way).
Kreider and Panarin I think have more they can give. But those two tend to feed off the confidence of the powerplay. Let's see some off day adjustments implemented for the PP before game 3
Kakko should get his chance again with Vesey out. I don't have much of an issue with no major on the Kulikov hit. Trouba walks that line all the time. But that Lomberg hit on Vesey was a total cheapshot. Puck was nowhere near, he launched at his head with his own head!
And I've been a bit skeptical of the Rempe impact. But there is a noticeable change in energy with him in there. He had to play more with the Vesey injury and he made some plays with the puck. He had an impact. Think he had 8 or 9 hits. He makes the opposition think twice when they're going back to retrieve pucks knowing he's coming. Keep playing like that and he'll have a role to play.
Rangers were the better team tonight. Deserved win.
Was thinking this throughout the 3rd and OT but how shitty it would feel if they still lost and fell behind 2-0. Now we can just feel good all day long. I’m getting drunk today and living life to the fullest with dreams of a finals trip dancing in my head. Rangers nation may you all enjoy the wonderful day. Be ready for tomorrow.
would be my guess. No reason to rush him back. Get Kakko back in the lineup. And keep Rempe in there. And if Lavi wants to get Rempe out of the lineup on the road in FL, then put Wheeler in there. The good thing is we have some depth and options right now. Which is very good this late in the playoffs.
...what a break for hockey fans. Wischusen is the gold standard right now IMO.
Said it weeks ago. You've been Kenny Albert guy, no? imo he's small step up from McDonough, robotic automaton, fills in gaps in his tracking game flow with extraneous info (for imp of play at hand) all game long.
...what a break for hockey fans. Wischusen is the gold standard right now IMO.
Said it weeks ago. You've been Kenny Albert guy, no? imo he's small step up from McDonough, robotic automaton, fills in gaps in his tracking game flow with extraneous info (for imp of play at hand) all game long.
I don't mind Albert, but I'm generally not a "broadcaster guy" - meaning sometimes on here fans complain incessantly about the football broadcast. I don't usually really care much.
I liked Mike Emrick, Bob Cole, guys who enhanced the watching experience.
So, I never minded Albert or McDonough to be honest, but I enjoyed Wischusen since ESPN got the contract and I heard him more.
That said I don't love Ray Ferraro - mostly his voice not his commentary (but his commentary isn't great either). I liked Eddie Olczyck better - I think Edzo is doing the WCF.
Soucy gets a one game suspension for the x-check to McDavid's neck, which real time looked blatant. But that was McDavid, yet not a minute missed. Vesey may miss week(s) from what looks like a head shot. DOPS is not known for its careful review, hey, what the hell, it's only a head shot, it's only Vesey
He missed two games (three?). Bennett got nothing except a post-game interview and some yukks from the TNT crew. This is how Panthers play. Mottolla slams Chytil into the boards with no time remaining and a 3-0 score. Is this causing Artemi to go into a '23 like Playoff shell? Fox, already hobbled?
Presumably Kakko will come back in, but I guess it could be Wheeler.
Wheeler would be a huge mistake. KK isn’t a great skater but he looks like McDavid next to Wheeler. And given Vesey’s role as a defensive bottom 6 forward a swap with Kakko is seemless.
In all honesty I’d put Kakko on the third line, scratch Roslivic and put Brodz on the 4th in Veseys place but that might be a bit too much turn over for Lavy’s liking after a win
Soucy gets a one game suspension for the x-check to McDavid's neck, which real time looked blatant. But that was McDavid, yet not a minute missed. Vesey may miss week(s) from what looks like a head shot. DOPS is not known for its careful review, hey, what the hell, it's only a head shot, it's only Vesey
That wasn't close to head shot by Lomberg on Vesey. It was shoulder to shoulder very clearly. You should watch it again. lot of video out there. Maybe it was late, and maybe interference but not remotely close to a head shot.
RE: Rangers need to make adjustments on PP for game 3
Soucy gets a one game suspension for the x-check to McDavid's neck, which real time looked blatant. But that was McDavid, yet not a minute missed. Vesey may miss week(s) from what looks like a head shot. DOPS is not known for its careful review, hey, what the hell, it's only a head shot, it's only Vesey
That wasn't close to head shot by Lomberg on Vesey. It was shoulder to shoulder very clearly. You should watch it again. lot of video out there. Maybe it was late, and maybe interference but not remotely close to a head shot.
Soucy gets a one game suspension for the x-check to McDavid's neck, which real time looked blatant. But that was McDavid, yet not a minute missed. Vesey may miss week(s) from what looks like a head shot. DOPS is not known for its careful review, hey, what the hell, it's only a head shot, it's only Vesey
That wasn't close to head shot by Lomberg on Vesey. It was shoulder to shoulder very clearly. You should watch it again. lot of video out there. Maybe it was late, and maybe interference but not remotely close to a head shot.
MAYBE it was late? MAYBE it was interfere?
irrelevant to the discussion so didn't see the need to provide my opinion.
Soucy gets a one game suspension for the x-check to McDavid's neck, which real time looked blatant. But that was McDavid, yet not a minute missed. Vesey may miss week(s) from what looks like a head shot. DOPS is not known for its careful review, hey, what the hell, it's only a head shot, it's only Vesey
That wasn't close to head shot by Lomberg on Vesey. It was shoulder to shoulder very clearly. You should watch it again. lot of video out there. Maybe it was late, and maybe interference but not remotely close to a head shot.
I agree that that wasn’t a headshot but I thought the Kulikov hit on Wennberg was.
Lomberg is a little shit, but the guy hits and plays hard….i want to see Rempe eat him.
hit is tricky. Initial reaction I thought was a head shot and easy call for a major, but I also agree with Messier after the fact, if you don't call Panarin on Oshie then how do you call Kulikov on Wennberg, it was basically the same hit and the league judged them consistently.
the league explanation (which I wasn't aware of) is the rule is the head *can* be hit even first, as long as its not the primary point of contact. That's where it gets kind of subjective. How do you define primary point of contact. Without that defined, in my view there was a lot of body in both those hits (Panarin and Kulikov).
If they called it a major I would not have argued, but I also buy the league explanation too.
looked worse real time than on review and I like the rule of reviewing majors, and the tendency refs now have on ice of ruling anything questionable a major so they can review it and see for sure in slow motion.
With the rule explanation (if that's actually how the rule is written) I think they got it right, but again if they ruled it a major I would also not thought they got it wrong. Tricky hit (and a couple Trouba hits the past few playoffs fall into this category too).
Yup
That wasn’t the best Panthers can play. They can actually bring more physicality.
I’m ready to see Zac Jones play.
Igor needs to play sharper than the first game.
Agree totally about shooting more in O zone.
I'm worried about Fox, he's hobbled out there.
Last update I read was the "some dizziness"
So he was third wheeling?
“No, SHE was third wheeling.”
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Hurt?
Maybe I’m wrong but he’s looked like a complete zero in the playoffs…
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Says that Kakko is looking like a game 2 scratch.
Doubt he’s hurt, more the latter. He’s done very little outside the goal vs Caps, which was a fumbled giveaway right in front at point blank range.
Hurt?
Maybe I’m wrong but he’s looked like a complete zero in the playoffs…
Ros or Vesey would be my choice (well, Rempe would be my choice, but if he's in...), though at the level these guys have all been contributing, I don't think it makes that much difference. I am glad it sounds like Chytil is staying in.
If Kakko sits, I have to believe it's due to injury, not a healthy scratch. he's been a 0 offensively, but a lot of the team has and he plays better D than most.
This place would go nuts if it were for Wheeler or even Brodzinski. (this won't happen, it's between Kakko and Rempe from what Vince says and because he also says both will warm up it is IMO likely due to injury) to Kakko).
Has*
I think you all discussed Rempe in the previous game thread, so your thoughts about that were definitely in line with the "experts". I definitely respect Gretzky and what he says.
Anyways, we definitely need this tonight.....
#LGR!!!!!
I don't agree at all, but I love out of the box thinking, lol.
Thank you. Maybe tonight, though...
I'm almost 100% sure that isn't happening though.
As pj said, I don't like benching Kakko because, even if he's not doing much offensively, he's still their best defensive forward.
If the Rangers D can’t get the puck out of the D zone what the hell is Rempe going to do????
Also what happens when the Panthers turn the heat up more physically?
Wednesday night was not their best effort.
It’s time for the Rangers to man up.
In the last 3 games they have played one awesome period the third against the Canes.
Well if Laviolette has got any adjustments that will make the Rangers competitive with Florida now would be the time to make them.
Game 1 reminded me of a Rangers vs Flyers playoff series in the early 1970s.
I know I'll regret this, but I'll bite: in what way?
If Kakko sits, I have to believe it's due to injury, not a healthy scratch. he's been a 0 offensively, but a lot of the team has and he plays better D than most.
Never mind that it was KK's deft outlet that sprung Schneider on the hit the pipe breakaway, threaded it between two CAR d-men.
I think the third line has been really good. Just not putting pucks in the net.
dlauster, posted the following in SCP thread after Game 6 win over CAR and before Wed night:
Roslovic (Kyle spot on earlier: his mind-numbingly unnecessary high stick behind Bob's net essentially ended the team's great start to 2nd and he is a fly by checker, i.e., he doesn't) and Wennberg have been underwhelming at best, not the Copp and Vatrano of '22. All the folks clamoring for Chytil to play more--I don't know what they expect from a guy who hasn't played since November due to a debilitating injury/condition.
And a bunch of us said it then: Lavvy's benching of Jones with 5-6 games left in regular season was a mistake: yeah, he's not big and not esp. physical and he's a mismatch for FLA's powerful Fs, but right now Fox is hobbled and it's also affecting his decision making.
Yeah, I get it, he's not scoring. But he isn't hurting them either, not by a long shot.
One last: we were at Rehoboth last week visiting good friends in Lewes, DE, so I was out of town for Game 6, a good luck charm no doubt. Many will be glad to know we're out of the country from end of May through mid-June, so victory over the Panthers is assured.
LGR!! Come on boys, just do it!!
Yeah, I get it, he's not scoring. But he isn't hurting them either, not by a long shot.
A third line winger is controlling puck possession, playing great defensive hockey, but not scoring... I mean, that's why he's on the third line.
Yeah, I get it, he's not scoring. But he isn't hurting them either, not by a long shot.
I don't think he would be sitting as a healthy scratch. Would he? I hadn't heard that explanation.
but...xGF% is not really an individual stat IMO (any more than plus minus is - and Kakko is 12th on the team in plus minus with negative 1). Further to that, Kakko has just 2 points in the playoffs. Only a few players on the team who have played more than 2 playoff games have less ppg (Cuylle who is 2nd in hits for forwards, Wennberg and Rempe who is statistically basically tied with Kakko in ppg for the playoffs).
Again though, I wasn't suggesting to sit Kakko as a healthy scratch and it doesn't sound like that's why he'd sit - it seems like an injury otherwise why would he warm up)?
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And has been on the ice for only two opposition goals through the playoffs. Sure, he's the problem.
Yeah, I get it, he's not scoring. But he isn't hurting them either, not by a long shot.
A third line winger is controlling puck possession, playing great defensive hockey, but not scoring... I mean, that's why he's on the third line.
No, that's why he should be on the 4th line or AHL
There were a few hints, with Filip Chytil wearing the same blue jersey as top-liners Chris Kreider and Mika Zibanejad while trade-deadline addition Jack Roslovic dropped down to bottom-six group. And then there was Rempe and Kaapo Kakko staying on the ice a bit later than the rest of the regulars, but also coming off before the known healthy scratches.
The simple math says that one of those two can't play in Game 2 of this Eastern Conference Final, but then again, Laviolette has pulled the old switch-a-roo a few times already in these playoffs.
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And has been on the ice for only two opposition goals through the playoffs. Sure, he's the problem.
Yeah, I get it, he's not scoring. But he isn't hurting them either, not by a long shot.
A third line winger is controlling puck possession, playing great defensive hockey, but not scoring... I mean, that's why he's on the third line.
I hear you, but a third line for a team trying to win the cup has to contribute more than 2 goals in 11 games. It's not just about zone time and possession
4 goals 9 points in 40 playoff games for KK playing mostly 3rd line minutes. I like the kid but at some point you need more. I still wouldn't take him out. But it's not egregious
Sit Vesey over him. Sitting Kakko is dumb.
One last: we were at Rehoboth last week visiting good friends in Lewes, DE, so I was out of town for Game 6, a good luck charm no doubt. Many will be glad to know we're out of the country from end of May through mid-June, so victory over the Panthers is assured.
LGR!! Come on boys, just do it!!
New rule: you can't complain about a player one game removed from a third period hat trick that saved the season. You have to wait a full series after ;)
Completely agreed.
Chris Kreider -- Mika Zibanejad -- Filip Chytil
Artemi Panarin -- Vincent Trocheck -- Alexis Lafreniere
Will Cuylle -- Alex Wennberg -- Jack Roslovic
Jimmy Vesey -- Barclay Goodrow -- Matt Rempe
Ryan Lindgren -- Adam Fox
K'Andre Miller -- Jacob Trouba
Erik Gustafsson -- Braden Schneider
Igor Shesterkin
The kid needs a different off-season program. He needs to be able to do more in the offensive zone than just cycle the puck. He really needs to learn how to drive to the net with the puck.
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And has been on the ice for only two opposition goals through the playoffs. Sure, he's the problem.
Yeah, I get it, he's not scoring. But he isn't hurting them either, not by a long shot.
A third line winger is controlling puck possession, playing great defensive hockey, but not scoring... I mean, that's why he's on the third line.
No, that's why he should be on the 4th line or AHL
I think benching him is really stupid. Part of the reason getting chytil back is big is because him and kappo have chemistry. He MAKES kappo better.
Hopefully the refs don't call a phantom penalty on Rempe that costs us...
Chris Kreider -- Mika Zibanejad -- Filip Chytil
Artemi Panarin -- Vincent Trocheck -- Alexis Lafreniere
Will Cuylle -- Alex Wennberg -- Jack Roslovic
Jimmy Vesey -- Barclay Goodrow -- Matt Rempe
Ryan Lindgren -- Adam Fox
K'Andre Miller -- Jacob Trouba
Erik Gustafsson -- Braden Schneider
Igor Shesterkin
I love the Rangers but never played the game and don’t know a lot of the subtleties. Is there any way that changing 3 of 4 lines isn’t panicking?
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need to put on their big boy pants tonight. Hidden in the Kreider hat trick show for the ages is 8 periods of very bad hockey in the last three games.
dlauster, posted the following in SCP thread after Game 6 win over CAR and before Wed night:
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Since 2022, I've critiqued CK (and Zib) loud and often for their disappearing acts in SCP. It's a good thing I wasn't around last week because I may not have been able to hold my tongue through periods 1 and 2 Thursday night (still haven't seen it) and would likely have eaten major crow. But Thursday is not the end of it, it only marked a new beginning. I will almost guarantee that the team's bi-polar ability is alive and well. Every team has its periods of poor play and wtf moments, it just seems like the Rangers' are uglier than most. Valiquette doesn't spare them (or the 'less than 100%' of particular players), he speaks in code. You're in good company.
Roslovic (Kyle spot on earlier: his mind-numbingly unnecessary high stick behind Bob's net essentially ended the team's great start to 2nd and he is a fly by checker, i.e., he doesn't) and Wennberg have been underwhelming at best, not the Copp and Vatrano of '22. All the folks clamoring for Chytil to play more--I don't know what they expect from a guy who hasn't played since November due to a debilitating injury/condition.
And a bunch of us said it then: Lavvy's benching of Jones with 5-6 games left in regular season was a mistake: yeah, he's not big and not esp. physical and he's a mismatch for FLA's powerful Fs, but right now Fox is hobbled and it's also affecting his decision making.
Thats not my quote….
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Rangers projected lineup
Chris Kreider -- Mika Zibanejad -- Filip Chytil
Artemi Panarin -- Vincent Trocheck -- Alexis Lafreniere
Will Cuylle -- Alex Wennberg -- Jack Roslovic
Jimmy Vesey -- Barclay Goodrow -- Matt Rempe
Ryan Lindgren -- Adam Fox
K'Andre Miller -- Jacob Trouba
Erik Gustafsson -- Braden Schneider
Igor Shesterkin
I love the Rangers but never played the game and don’t know a lot of the subtleties. Is there any way that changing 3 of 4 lines isn’t panicking?
I don't think it's a big deal. Guys practice together, got ice time together during the year, etc.
As far as 73 goes, there seem to be a decent amount of smart hockey guys that feel he should be dressed. Maybe there is some sort of 4D Chess that I don't see - maybe he attracts enough attention from Tkachuk, Cousins, Bennet, etc that Fla gets off their game? Just spitballing here...
Listened to some NHL network on Sirius while driving today. Consistent point was that Rempe or no Rempe, KK or no KK, if the top 6 don't put the puck in the net, none of that matters. Obvious point, but likely correct.
We'll see how this goes. I'm generally a pessimist, but feel strangely confident tonight.
I don't think coaches are omniscient and can't get it wrong sometimes but when there's a pattern you have to wonder what as fans we don't see.
I am surprised Kakko is a healthy scratch and I mentioned his lack of offensive success, maybe the coaches think in an environment when they can control match ups to an extent and "shelter" Rempe that his positive influence on the lineup outweighs Kakko's.
It does seem a little panicked to me. I did not agree with others about game 1. I thought the Rangers played ok in game 1. a flukey goal plus a seemingly soft goal vs Bobrovsky stopping all the HD scoring chances was the difference in the outcome. The Rangers didn't dominate zone play, but I don't think they did against CAR either. FLA had less HD scoring chances I believe.
You can’t go 10+ minutes in a period without a shot.
PP must score a goal tonight
Time for the top 6 forwards to make a difference
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dlauster, posted the following in SCP thread after Game 6 win over CAR and before Wed night:
dlauster, no, it was not your quote, that's why there's a comma after your name, it was my quote
And a LOL: Maurice's quote a few hours ago:
And a LOL: Maurice's quote a few hours ago:
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I don't give a flying fuck if Rempe is in the game....
he said that before game 1 too when he was hounded by the media asking him questions about Rempe. I think fans (and even the media) make more of a deal about him than some teams do.
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dlauster, posted the following in SCP thread after Game 6 win over CAR and before Wed night:
dlauster, no, it was not your quote, that's why there's a comma after your name, it was my quote
Got it! Sorry.
As others have said, the defensive zone turnovers have to stop. It would be one thing if it were the result of forechecking, but quite a few of the turnovers were flubs and dumb decisions.
I think the biggest problem with Kakko is that he was a second overall pick so people expect more than a defensively responsible forward. I can't say I blame them, but at this point, he is what he is. You don't evaluate his play based on his draft status years ago. Since Lavvy was not in charge when they drafted him, I tend to think what he sees in Kakko is not all that great.
Horrendous call
Horrendous call
Horrendous call
He wasnt touched and then spun around and fell. They have to be better than this in the playoffs.
I don't think they're gassed. They just won't continue to hit. They wilted the second Zibby got leveled. They lost a 2 on 1 behind the net when they started with possession for crying out loud. They're unwilling. Not tired.
He can't handle the puck. He's skating, moving, and loses the puck every time
Rangers outhitting FLA by 10 (34 to 24) but it's partly because the Rangers are turning the puck over.
Rangers still losing the face off battle and they NEED to capitalize on the PP. I like the way it looked with Gus as the QB more than Fox. I would stick with that.
Rangers have the edge in expected goals. Need bodies in front of Bobrovsky.
Knee injury
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What’s song with Fox?
Knee injury
Wrong not song. Thanks Anakim! He’s practically invisible.
I agree but why?
Hope he shows up with game winner
Checked for a high stick...
Rangers end up with the face off lead for the game too.
Of course not….just like they refused to acknowledge that game 1 wasn’t the trouncing they played it up to be
LGR
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Breadman is playing scared. He's ghosting this game.
I agree but why?
I think Bread tends to back off in physical games but he needs to use his speed to avoid checks and create shots. Also Kreider needs to get his head out of his ass and show up in the game. Big Z off after the big hit he took. I hope nothing is wrong with him and he can just shake it off for the next game. BUT the team showed up in OT and got the mch needed win. LGR!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Way to lead, Brett, get Kappo back in
Rempe fills an important role. he played a smart, gritty game. that is an ideal 4th line. I hope Vesey is ok
Regardless, Kakko should back in. Granted he hasnt been scoring but he plays a hard-nosed, full rink game and that's the kind of series this is.
Roslovic blows. Soft as jello pudding. get him out of there.
Igor is Igor. nuff said.
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A bunch, and that’s an incredible shot. The goalie read the play pretty well and is moving to his right basically with the pass. They didn’t show a direct front/ back view but there could only have been a tiny window for a split second to hit that top corner and he absolutely sticks it. Unlike the last series, this guy is not giving up anything soft. Had to be a perfect shot and it was, season on the line.
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Thanks. Slowed to .25x it looks like a maybe 6" window; Bobrovsky closes most of it with his blocker but the shot gets by anyway. It had to be a vertical puck-width. Perfect snipe.
LGR!!!!
On the Panthers team Lomberg is playing great hockey. Really impressed with him. Barkov is a monster.
Rempe for all his green-ness. Needs to be in the lineup. Last night and the regular season show the difference when he's in the lineup.
Agreed, he's great.
The 5v5 xGF is neck and neck, slight edge to FLA which I expected.
the all situations is significantly skewed in NYR favor, it was one of my keys to the series coming in.
Pulled from HockeyStatMiner tweet:
all-situations expected goals (adjusted)
FLA NYR
MoneyPuck 4.49 5.44
EvolvingHockey 5.91 6.05
Yep. The Vesey thing didn't look good. I'm guessing Kakko is back in.
And I wonder if Laviolette would insert Wheeler back in the lineup and take out Roslovic. Roslovic has been awful this series and so has the first line. Kreider-Zibanejad-Wheeler at least had a modicum of success during the season. Couple that with Wheeler's experience and maybe he plays tomorrow afternoon over Roslovic.
Just a thought. Wheeler is a fucking slug out there, though.
but if you have not seen it you have to watch his post-game. it is clear why he's a fan favorite with his style of play and his off-ice attitude. He even got a "jiminy crickets" in there. lol.
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In a series like this I think you take that, if your top line and their top line cancel each other that's ok.
I thought Chytil has been more noticeable in two games then Wheeler or Roslovic have been in a lot of games.
He has some rust no doubt, and he was very fortunate to not get called for interference or holding or something on the play he lost his stick when Barkov took the puck off him at the blue line, but his presence change transforms that line IMO.
At the beginning of this season, they were a favorite to return.
NY has to figure out Florida’s defense to generate more offense, especially with Fox hobbled.
They aren’t winning this series, with a bunch of 2-1
wins.
In a series like this I think you take that, if your top line and their top line cancel each other that's ok.
I thought Chytil has been more noticeable in two games then Wheeler or Roslovic have been in a lot of games.
He has some rust no doubt, and he was very fortunate to not get called for interference or holding or something on the play he lost his stick when Barkov took the puck off him at the blue line, but his presence change transforms that line IMO.
At one point, I wasn’t even sure that Tarasenko was playing. That’s how unnoticeable he was.
I actually liked Roslo and Cuylle on the same line. They brought a lot of speed and energy.
On one of the power plays, it seemed like Foxy was dragging his leg around. He waved himself off while the rest of the first unit was still out there. He’s battling.
As others have mentioned, the gap between Bobrovsky and the previous goalies the Rangers faced is Grand Canyon-esque.
The Rangers have to feel good about the fact they’ve yet to allow a non-fluke 5v5 goal and that the high danger chance thru two games seems to be even at worst, but perhaps tilting in their favor.
Chytil is noticeably getting more comfortable out there. He's going to score soon. Keep him on that first line wing. Agreed to those saying a strong game from Trouba. His ability to lay a hit and knock guys off pucks is important in this series. One of the better games for the Trouba/Miller pair in a long time. K'Andre skating the puck out to break the forecheck, let's see more of that. Can't say enough about Trocheck. Mika has his hands full with Barkov but I thought he really competed (what a monster Barkov is by the way).
Kreider and Panarin I think have more they can give. But those two tend to feed off the confidence of the powerplay. Let's see some off day adjustments implemented for the PP before game 3
LGR
I just love the way Trocheck competes. Just awesome to watch. He is the Rangers playoff MVP so far
Was thinking this throughout the 3rd and OT but how shitty it would feel if they still lost and fell behind 2-0. Now we can just feel good all day long. I’m getting drunk today and living life to the fullest with dreams of a finals trip dancing in my head. Rangers nation may you all enjoy the wonderful day. Be ready for tomorrow.
I didn't want to dump on a guy who was sick, but what a break for hockey fans. Wischusen is the gold standard right now IMO.
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...what a break for hockey fans. Wischusen is the gold standard right now IMO.
Said it weeks ago. You've been Kenny Albert guy, no? imo he's small step up from McDonough, robotic automaton, fills in gaps in his tracking game flow with extraneous info (for imp of play at hand) all game long.
I don't mind Albert, but I'm generally not a "broadcaster guy" - meaning sometimes on here fans complain incessantly about the football broadcast. I don't usually really care much.
I liked Mike Emrick, Bob Cole, guys who enhanced the watching experience.
So, I never minded Albert or McDonough to be honest, but I enjoyed Wischusen since ESPN got the contract and I heard him more.
That said I don't love Ray Ferraro - mostly his voice not his commentary (but his commentary isn't great either). I liked Eddie Olczyck better - I think Edzo is doing the WCF.
Wish we had re-signed Mottolla.
Wheeler would be a huge mistake. KK isn’t a great skater but he looks like McDavid next to Wheeler. And given Vesey’s role as a defensive bottom 6 forward a swap with Kakko is seemless.
In all honesty I’d put Kakko on the third line, scratch Roslivic and put Brodz on the 4th in Veseys place but that might be a bit too much turn over for Lavy’s liking after a win
That wasn't close to head shot by Lomberg on Vesey. It was shoulder to shoulder very clearly. You should watch it again. lot of video out there. Maybe it was late, and maybe interference but not remotely close to a head shot.
I just love the way Trocheck competes. Just awesome to watch. He is the Rangers playoff MVP so far
I agree with everything here!
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Soucy gets a one game suspension for the x-check to McDavid's neck, which real time looked blatant. But that was McDavid, yet not a minute missed. Vesey may miss week(s) from what looks like a head shot. DOPS is not known for its careful review, hey, what the hell, it's only a head shot, it's only Vesey
That wasn't close to head shot by Lomberg on Vesey. It was shoulder to shoulder very clearly. You should watch it again. lot of video out there. Maybe it was late, and maybe interference but not remotely close to a head shot.
MAYBE it was late? MAYBE it was interfere?
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Soucy gets a one game suspension for the x-check to McDavid's neck, which real time looked blatant. But that was McDavid, yet not a minute missed. Vesey may miss week(s) from what looks like a head shot. DOPS is not known for its careful review, hey, what the hell, it's only a head shot, it's only Vesey
That wasn't close to head shot by Lomberg on Vesey. It was shoulder to shoulder very clearly. You should watch it again. lot of video out there. Maybe it was late, and maybe interference but not remotely close to a head shot.
MAYBE it was late? MAYBE it was interfere?
irrelevant to the discussion so didn't see the need to provide my opinion.
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Soucy gets a one game suspension for the x-check to McDavid's neck, which real time looked blatant. But that was McDavid, yet not a minute missed. Vesey may miss week(s) from what looks like a head shot. DOPS is not known for its careful review, hey, what the hell, it's only a head shot, it's only Vesey
That wasn't close to head shot by Lomberg on Vesey. It was shoulder to shoulder very clearly. You should watch it again. lot of video out there. Maybe it was late, and maybe interference but not remotely close to a head shot.
I agree that that wasn’t a headshot but I thought the Kulikov hit on Wennberg was.
Lomberg is a little shit, but the guy hits and plays hard….i want to see Rempe eat him.
the league explanation (which I wasn't aware of) is the rule is the head *can* be hit even first, as long as its not the primary point of contact. That's where it gets kind of subjective. How do you define primary point of contact. Without that defined, in my view there was a lot of body in both those hits (Panarin and Kulikov).
If they called it a major I would not have argued, but I also buy the league explanation too.
looked worse real time than on review and I like the rule of reviewing majors, and the tendency refs now have on ice of ruling anything questionable a major so they can review it and see for sure in slow motion.
With the rule explanation (if that's actually how the rule is written) I think they got it right, but again if they ruled it a major I would also not thought they got it wrong. Tricky hit (and a couple Trouba hits the past few playoffs fall into this category too).
Agree with redbeard on kk.
EDM storming Stars' net and Otter, physically
TNT Int. crew so much better than blowhards Levy and PK