I have faith that the staff does deep evaluation dives into the games and keeps a close eye on practices.
Will Kakko be back? Is this a time to bring back Wheeler? Does Brodzinski give us Roslovic's speed but with more grit? Does Rempe play in an away game where matchups are in FL's control? Do we sub Jones for Gustafsson for a bit more play making and better puck control?
I have faith that the staff does deep evaluation dives into the games and keeps a close eye on practices.
Will Kakko be back? Is this a time to bring back Wheeler? Does Brodzinski give us Roslovic's speed but with more grit? Does Rempe play in an away game where matchups are in FL's control? Do we sub Jones for Gustafsson for a bit more play making and better puck control?
Stay tuned.
My opinion is that Gus and Rempe stay in the lineup. I would believe that Vessey is out and probably Kakko comes back. We shall see.
RE: It will be interesting to see what changes are made.
I have faith that the staff does deep evaluation dives into the games and keeps a close eye on practices.
Will Kakko be back? Is this a time to bring back Wheeler? Does Brodzinski give us Roslovic's speed but with more grit? Does Rempe play in an away game where matchups are in FL's control? Do we sub Jones for Gustafsson for a bit more play making and better puck control?
Stay tuned.
The Rangers are 9-3 these playoffs, you're not going to see any major changes. With Vesey out today that gets Kakko back in the lineup. I think the only decision to be made is, does Lavi keep Rempe in there? Or does he get Wheeler back in the lineup? I'd be good with either. Panthers are tough and lay hard hits, see Vesey being week to week with a shoulder injury. So having Rempe in there makes sense. But if Lavi doesn't trust Rempe enough defensively in a tough road game with FL getting last line change, then this could be the perfect opportunity to get Wheeler back in and see what he could do.
It is listed as start time. Puck drop I'd guess not long after. IOW it's not a 3:30 puck drop after 30 min pre-game nonsense. it may be 3:10 or something though after anthems, etc..
RE: It will be interesting to see what changes are made.
Will Kakko be back? Probably, but maybe on the 4th line.
Is this a time to bring back Wheeler? No. He's old and slow and that is not a good combination.
Does Brodzinski give us Roslovic's speed but with more grit? Yes. Roslovic stinks
Does Rempe play in an away game where matchups are in FL's control? I have joked about the legend of Matt Rempe, but he did what the team needed for him to do, bang bodies, forecheck, be responsible in his own zone. He did all that.
Do we sub Jones for Gustafsson for a bit more play making and better puck control? No. Gus is a more physical player, is more seasoned and is good offensively. At this point and especially against this team, Jones is only an injury replacement.
would want to see Brodzinski in the lineup. He's a career AHLer. He had the best season of his career this year with 19 points in 57 games. Roslovic has never had a season with that little point production. Why anyone would want Brodzinski in there over Roslovic is beyond me.
would want to see Brodzinski in the lineup. He's a career AHLer. He had the best season of his career this year with 19 points in 57 games. Roslovic has never had a season with that little point production. Why anyone would want Brodzinski in there over Roslovic is beyond me.
Expectations. You don't expect a lot of offense from Jonny B. What you expect is some forechecking, some hustle and getting the puck deep. For the most part, he does that. The expectations for Roslovic are for more offense. His offense isn't better than Jonny B without the forechecking and hustle.
Yes we are 9-3 but 4 came VS the worst team in the playoffs.
We can't keep relying on Shesty as savior. The offensive production by our D, including getting the puck out of our zone, has really fallen off. Partly due to Fox's probable injury. I hold my breath every time Trouba has the puck on his stick in the D zone. Gus has not played at the level when he subbed for Fox. Maybe it's age-related stamina?
Jones played well and showed he is not a liability in the D zone. He excels at getting the puck out. Pair him with Trouba and reunite Miller and Schneider.
Vesey in the lineup. Look at option 3. That was my crazy option for game 2 to change the lineup. Maybe the author was reading that thread from two days ago. Options for replacing Vesey - ( New Window )
has faced more scoring chances than Shesterkin, right?
In the moneypuck simulation, the Rangers win game 1 ~60% of the time. However, as we all know if you don't score you will lose 100% of the games you play, so Igor's goalie play was made irrelevant by the lack of scoring, but sometimes stats provide context and help frame what you're seeing.
Both games so far (in this two game series) the Panthers have had 2.3 or less xGF). The Rangers have done a really good job of allowing zone time without allowing scoring chances. So much so, it may be part of their play. Keep everything to the outside. clog up the middle. block shots and transition.
Igor is playing great, but he's has not been a "savior" in fact you could argue in game 1 he did more to hurt the team than help them (beyond what he is expected to do). He had a negative expected goals saved in game 1.
Igor basically stole game 3 vs CAR (3-2 OT win) and played really well in games 1 and 2 vs CAR (above expectations) since then he has mostly made the saves he's expected to make.
- can't help but think that continuing to allow so much defensive zone time will, sooner or later vs very good teams, bite them in their arses, esp. with Fox now on the cusp of being a liability. JT always a wild card and Gus has a lot of wear. Heavy burdens on KAM, Schneider, and Lindgren (see Gus). I think we'll see Jones sooner or later.
- Wheeler? heh, he didn't exactly set the 'first line' on fire when healthy. He went, what ~ 20 games before notching a goal? We saw his play, he is slow. Being slow, he's not great on the backcheck. His experience is 'bout only thing going for him.
- agree w/ most what BC and Gmen say
- Kappo, for jiminy crickets' sake!! Look at the GA stats Greg posted on Friday. He set up the Schneider breakaway with a perfect pass from his BL and set up a score vs CAR with a similar outlet, iirc. Maybe Lavvy wants to see more fire, more aggression, from him, there is a phlegmatic aspect to KK's game, but he's strong on the puck and defensively 95% responsible, which puts him right up there with Trocheck and a bit ahead of Laf. Roslovic shows me very little at this stage of the game.
- will be interesting to see how Maurice deploys his lines vs ours with last change. I'm looking for Cuylle to do some stuff: he has been so close, so often these playoffs.
- Zib, Kreider, Panarin ??? You never know but the team needs something more from them, a lot more. Gotta hope '24 is not '22 and '23 redux.
- pj, yeah, 3:10 sounds about right. Got to meet friends for early dinner and requested a table near the bar TV. Life of the party (:
And drew penalties that's the way you beat Florida.
Gotta stay physical and let them make mistakes but we need to get the power play going it's what got us here.
We need speed on the ice and play fast they will commit stupid penalties.
I get that (speed), and between Wheeler and Roslovic, I'd probably go the same way. He's certainly more game fit than Wheeler, but dang he has to be willing to check with more than his fly by stick. Drury's adds this year have been so underwhelming.
and Wenberg we’re both good in the OT Friday night. Seemed to find some chemistry as the game went along. Hopefully we see more of that today and hopefully KK in for Vesey.
fine, what about Bennett when he just rushed Igor? I find it hard to believe if they could see a penalty in what Rempe did, they couldn’t have found some shit on Florida
Our defense looks like they are playing with cement shoes
After McDonough broke his foot in 2015, I thought that was a bad break, to see Fox struggling like this seems unfair to happen to same team twice in a decade in conference finals
He came to play. And Goodrow keep living up to that post-season rep.
I've never seen a guy get two penalties like that - I didn't realize it would be two consecutive penalties, rather than someone else serving the second and 5 on 3. Not sure which is better in general for the shorthanded team, but in this case, certainly not getting a shortie at 5 on 3.
This is some of those Ottawa and Tampa blown games from years past. This franchise hasn’t had the killer instinct the past past 15 years and it’s why they keep losing in the ECF. Brutal.
This is some of those Ottawa and Tampa blown games from years past. This franchise hasn’t had the killer instinct the past past 15 years and it’s why they keep losing in the ECF. Brutal.
What about the cup in 2014, didn’t we blow two or three two goal leads in those games
and man was it all downhill from there. About as lopsided as it gets. Better find something during the break - playing like that isn't going to hold the tie for very long.
Should lav think about mixing up the two top lines?
all deserve massive blame. An ABSOLUTE NO SHOW. We don't even have any business being in OT -- Goodrow getting 2 goals is what got us here, and we all know how fucking random and out of the ordinary it is.
4 minutes on the ice against a team that wears you down physically.
So we play with 11 forwards who have no tread left on the tires from bring forechecked for 60 minutes
4 minutes on the ice against a team that wears you down physically.
So we play with 11 forwards who have no tread left on the tires from bring forechecked for 60 minutes
That’s on the coach for only playing him 4 minutes Not on Rempe. He had a penalty today - what’s kakko or about 15 other players on this team done this entire series ?
The top line is invisible and inexcusable. Only Laf, Tro and Goody seem to have shown up.
The defense has been no great shakes....way too many unforced turnovers and no where near enough trying ti break the forecheck. Just dancing with them, trying to stick check and hope
I love this team, I really do. I love that we don't quit, I love that we have people who step up. But I weirdly feel the least confident I ever have after watching one of my teams win a playoff game/big game.
I hope the top guys can find their game and we can ramp this up to another level (not holding my breath for bread, if he has no space he can't do anything)
I’ve always overrated the whole “he’s been there before. He knows how to win in the playoffs” notion.
Barclay Goodrow has changed my mind completely on that concept. As bad as he was in the regular season, he has been PHENOMENAL in the playoffs. I don’t fully get why, but Goodrow has clearly flipped a switch in the playoffs.
I’ve always overrated the whole “he’s been there before. He knows how to win in the playoffs” notion.
Barclay Goodrow has changed my mind completely on that concept. As bad as he was in the regular season, he has been PHENOMENAL in the playoffs. I don’t fully get why, but Goodrow has clearly flipped a switch in the playoffs.
Reminds me of Esa Tikkanen. In the regular season he was just a guy, kind of a dick. But when the money was on the line he became a difference maker.
I’ve always overrated the whole “he’s been there before. He knows how to win in the playoffs” notion.
Barclay Goodrow has changed my mind completely on that concept. As bad as he was in the regular season, he has been PHENOMENAL in the playoffs. I don’t fully get why, but Goodrow has clearly flipped a switch in the playoffs.
Especially when you see some of the Rangers playing like pool shrinkage. There truly is something to being built for this time of year.
about Rempe only getting 4 min, check out Florida’s MP. They essentially went 3 lines the whole way.
The top line has to get it going. Can’t win this series without those 3 AND a hobbled Fox.
They dive like Greg Louganis though. I’m surprised that they let Rodriguez out of intensive care so quickly. For such a tough guy, Tkachuk hits the ice easier than whiskey.
I took ojacs comment as about us fans, not the team. The team deserves it, Igor is part of the team. Us fans? I'm self aware enough to know rangers fans are hardcore fucking doomers
I took ojacs comment as about us fans, not the team. The team deserves it, Igor is part of the team. Us fans? I'm self aware enough to know rangers fans are hardcore fucking doomers
oh, yeah, 100% the fans. and you know I'm just giving you all shit. Fun playoff ride so far. But great call NYR fans are Such doomers, lol. You all live and die with every play and I love it and I hate it. lol. Hopefully you don't mind my commentary. In the past Rangers fans have asked me not to post on their threads. This was about a decade ago though. Some of the thinner skin fans have left the site or mellowed out.
Whoever mentioned Evan Rodrigues hit the nail on the head - dude was facedown on the ice for five minutes yet showed absolutely no ill effects.
I was surprised that wasn't a major. NYR lucked out IMO whether or not it was embellished. The broadcast crew wouldn't shut up about it - even the studio crew in between periods. But they never showed a view with the point of contact, so I have to believe it was elbow to shoulder or I have no explanation.
And while we're on the topic. PK Subban is horrendous. He is just downright brutal and so is Messier and Bissonette and the ESPN crew are awful too, all brutal. TNT, ESPN, just shitty studio crews.
they should get the Hockey Night in Canada crew from sportsnet. Kelly Hrudey, Kevin Bieksa, Jennifer Botterill, and hosted by Ron McLean for in between periods or at least watch and learn how it's done.
The best moments were when they have Shaq in studio - he's hilarious. Hank isn't bad, but he sticks out with that crew like a sore thumb (in a good way, but he doesn't fit in).
I took ojacs comment as about us fans, not the team. The team deserves it, Igor is part of the team. Us fans? I'm self aware enough to know rangers fans are hardcore fucking doomers
oh, yeah, 100% the fans. and you know I'm just giving you all shit. Fun playoff ride so far. But great call NYR fans are Such doomers, lol. You all live and die with every play and I love it and I hate it. lol. Hopefully you don't mind my commentary. In the past Rangers fans have asked me not to post on their threads. This was about a decade ago though. Some of the thinner skin fans have left the site or mellowed out.
I think after a loss I'd be less present.
Lol, I don't remember that at all.
Game threads are explosive. But I think we have a good group who laughs at themselves after.
I took ojacs comment as about us fans, not the team. The team deserves it, Igor is part of the team. Us fans? I'm self aware enough to know rangers fans are hardcore fucking doomers
oh, yeah, 100% the fans. and you know I'm just giving you all shit. Fun playoff ride so far. But great call NYR fans are Such doomers, lol. You all live and die with every play and I love it and I hate it. lol. Hopefully you don't mind my commentary. In the past Rangers fans have asked me not to post on their threads. This was about a decade ago though. Some of the thinner skin fans have left the site or mellowed out.
I think after a loss I'd be less present.
If you're the reason Arcarsenal is nowhere to be seen, I'll never forgive you.
But if you're the reason why Jon in NJ left...well then, GIDDY UP!
I took ojacs comment as about us fans, not the team. The team deserves it, Igor is part of the team. Us fans? I'm self aware enough to know rangers fans are hardcore fucking doomers
oh, yeah, 100% the fans. and you know I'm just giving you all shit. Fun playoff ride so far. But great call NYR fans are Such doomers, lol. You all live and die with every play and I love it and I hate it. lol. Hopefully you don't mind my commentary. In the past Rangers fans have asked me not to post on their threads. This was about a decade ago though. Some of the thinner skin fans have left the site or mellowed out.
I think after a loss I'd be less present.
Lol, I don't remember that at all.
Game threads are explosive. But I think we have a good group who laughs at themselves after.
in the 07-12 days, I def recall this happening lol..board is just a bit more dead than it was back then
Whoever mentioned Evan Rodrigues hit the nail on the head - dude was facedown on the ice for five minutes yet showed absolutely no ill effects.
I was surprised that wasn't a major. NYR lucked out IMO whether or not it was embellished. The broadcast crew wouldn't shut up about it - even the studio crew in between periods. But they never showed a view with the point of contact, so I have to believe it was elbow to shoulder or I have no explanation.
And while we're on the topic. PK Subban is horrendous. He is just downright brutal and so is Messier and Bissonette and the ESPN crew are awful too, all brutal. TNT, ESPN, just shitty studio crews.
they should get the Hockey Night in Canada crew from sportsnet. Kelly Hrudey, Kevin Bieksa, Jennifer Botterill, and hosted by Ron McLean for in between periods or at least watch and learn how it's done.
The best moments were when they have Shaq in studio - he's hilarious. Hank isn't bad, but he sticks out with that crew like a sore thumb (in a good way, but he doesn't fit in).
Couldn’t agree more.
ESPN’s coverage has been abysmal!
The studio crew sound like a bunch of fanboys sitting in a basement, swilling beer and providing nothing more than stammering banter.
Steve Levy is a net negative and Slewbban is more concerned with what he’s going to wear on set than he is with meaningful analysis. Unless of course you consider his analysis of what the players are wearing as they make their way into the arena before the game.
The in game broadcast is an abomination. The director in the truck inexplicably repeatedly throws camera shots to a close up of a given player skating off on change while the puck is being carried up ice or we see a tight shot of Igor or Bobvrosky after a save while the puck is still live and going the other way. This happens multiple times a game and is inexcusable.
TNT is led by Bozo Bissonette and his unbuttoned shirt, constant screwing with his facial hair and meandering. He’s not awful when he’s focused on the game analysis but his ADHD has him wandering off again.
A week ago or so he called Yandle an asshole on air after Yandle threw a bard at him. While it might not sound like a big deal it speaks to his level of buffoonery brand that he clearly enjoys all too much.
Liam McHugh and his cartoon frog voice is grating and he doesn’t help rein in Biz for fear he won’t come across as one of the boys.
ESPN and TNT can be so much better but I just don’t think they care e out about what a real hockey audience is looking for.
It may come across as biased but I truly believe there aren’t many better than the MSG in studio crew with Gianone, Vali, Hank and/or Boyler.
They provide a terrific player perspective and in-depth analysis.
and I were always on good terms. I did give him too much shit when he changed from a Mets fan to a Yankees fan but with me it was always in good fun not maliciously like some people. I know he was public on here about experiencing anxiety and having some mental health issues. I hope he's ok.
All the Rangers fans on here are great. Passionate.
Not going to name names, most don't post here any more. I wish they did, the threads were fun, but I did cringe more than I do at some of Anakim's posts.
and I were always on good terms. I did give him too much shit when he changed from a Mets fan to a Yankees fan but with me it was always in good fun not maliciously like some people. I know he was public on here about experiencing anxiety and having some mental health issues. I hope he's ok.
All the Rangers fans on here are great. Passionate.
Not going to name names, most don't post here any more. I wish they did, the threads were fun, but I did cringe more than I do at some of Anakim's posts.
and I were always on good terms. I did give him too much shit when he changed from a Mets fan to a Yankees fan but with me it was always in good fun not maliciously like some people. I know he was public on here about experiencing anxiety and having some mental health issues. I hope he's ok.
All the Rangers fans on here are great. Passionate.
Not going to name names, most don't post here any more. I wish they did, the threads were fun, but I did cringe more than I do at some of Anakim's posts.
Whoever mentioned Evan Rodrigues hit the nail on the head - dude was facedown on the ice for five minutes yet showed absolutely no ill effects.
How about whomever (Bennett?) it was that went down like he was struck by lightning and got the refs to blow a safety whistle during a Rangers odd-man rush? I don't think he even got off the ice for a medical check.
How was that not embellishment? If for no other reason than it made the refs look like morons.
wtf, he was the team's 5th best F in Game 3 (after #91 only because of his GWG) after ## 13, 21, 16. He competed, went to the net, gave the team some possession. Good video of GWG, Wennberg 'wins' the draw and Kakko lifts Kulikov's stick allowing Roslovic to gain possession and shovel to Lindberg for the primary assist--KK not on scoresheet but did the little things that matter:
The 'first' line wilted as usual, invisible, and Panarin looks shell shocked, he can't even get off a clean pass or shot.
Gus was our best d-man, but man, the Panthers owned the ice behind Igor's net. Downright ugly, humbling. Too often again, KAM's clearing attempts picked off/deflected and he chases toward the wall, abandoning crease area = 2 goals. Where are the backchecking Fs??
Rempe was in front of goal on Goody’s first goal yesterday
that's right he was.
Rempe is filling his role effectively. He's in on the forecheck and in front of the net. He should be playing more. That is a perfect 4th line. The Rangers are getting pounded by the Cats physically and need to dish some back. Other than Trocheck and Lafreniere, who in the top 6 is filling his role effectively? Panarin has been shit, dancing around the perimeter now that the going has gotten rough. Mika and Kreider have disappeared. Chytil has added nothing.
They took 6 minors, most just lazy, yesterday, yet Rempe's is the only one talked about.
Thank God for Igor, he stole that game. And that it was an early game so he can get some extra rest.
wtf, he was the team's 5th best F in Game 3 (after #91 only because of his GWG) after ## 13, 21, 16. He competed, went to the net, gave the team some possession. Good video of GWG, Wennberg 'wins' the draw and Kakko lifts Kulikov's stick allowing Roslovic to gain possession and shovel to Lindberg for the primary assist--KK not on scoresheet but did the little things that matter:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1794908197645652115
Amazing how alone #91 is, no Panther w/i 18'. (loved the shot of the FLA fan who looks like he just heard his BFF sleeping with his wife)
The 'first' line wilted as usual, invisible, and Panarin looks shell shocked, he can't even get off a clean pass or shot.
Gus was our best d-man, but man, the Panthers owned the ice behind Igor's net. Downright ugly, humbling. Too often again, KAM's clearing attempts picked off/deflected and he chases toward the wall, abandoning crease area = 2 goals. Where are the backchecking Fs??
Is it me or does Miller seem less assertive when paired with Trouba? And Schneider less likely to rush the puck with Gus? I think they're both better when they play together.
Starting to wonder if something is going on with Panarin. We saw through the start of the Carolina series he was more willing to engage physically and get in the battle. This is a tougher matchup but he looks like he has no legs and the whiffing on shots and mishandling of pucks is just bizarre. Even if he's not producing, you'd never see that. Caught a shot of him on the bench and he looked exhausted. There was some word that some illness was making its way through the team last round. Just speculating, because he looks like he has nothing in the tank.
Considering that, and the slow starts for Mika and Kreider, being up 2-1 is phenomenal.
oh CHP I def agree with you about Kakko. He needs to play
You, me, and Greg can throw Kyle into the Hudson next weekend.
Bobrovsky was clearly grasping at straws for a high stick there.
LOL I like Kakko, I really do!! Just want to see him turn his strong forecheck ability into consistent offense. It's funny, in other Rangers chats I'm in I'm the Kakko defender talking about all the little things he still provides, but here I look like the hater
We won because Igor badly outplayed Bobrowski. Panthers are a very tough team but like Canes they need lucky bounces to score because we have Igor. They needed one goal off a skate and one off a shinpad to get to OT. Shesty was the difference vs Canes as well. Fox has been brutal and Panarin is in panic mode every time he touches puck but our goaltender has carried us so far. Hope our scorers start to score and we will close them out .
but...per the analytics it was more Bobrovsky shitting the bed than Igor playing hero ball.
The analytics show xGA for Igor of 3.84 and he allowed 4 goals for a net negative in goals saved above expected. In other words he saved most of what he should be expected to but not all, so per the analytics he did not really steal the game. Bobrovsky was brutal. Per the disparity in expected goals, Florida should have won that game and in simulations they win it over 80% of the time. The Rangers did not have a lot of scoring chances that were deemed "expected goals".
Bobrovsky had xGA of 1.691 and allowed 5 goals - which is a playoff worst single game net of a whopping -3.31 goals saved above expected. Bobrovsky has a tendency for clunkers. It had been a while, but for those who remember last year, he was so erratic with FLA began their playoff run, journeyman Alex Lyon was the starter in net.
To fans, who cares, Igor is the best, but underneath the results, he did not play his best game. Not that you should care.
FWIW I thought the Forsling goal off the face off was one Igor should have had. It was a straight shot (a good one to be fair) but from a non-goal scorer. it wasn't like a sniper shooting who beats you plus Igor had a good luck at it without traffic (just shows why I harp on face offs so much).
Anyway, stats aren't everything and xGA is somewhat subjective (like defense stats in baseball) and moneypuck doesn't own a monopoly on determined xGA, so think what you want. Just wanted to provide some context.
PJ, I'm rewatching the game this morning since I watched most of it at a bar or on the bench at my hockey game. And I agree.
The Rangers won John Tortorella style, lol. Igor played well but the Panthers didn't have a million chances. I also thought Igor should have had the first goal.
I like moneypuck (who I used in that last post), natural stat trick (he only had the Panthers with 2.67 xGF so he agrees with you on the first goal), and hockey stat miner (who is a NYR fan (maybe posts on here, lol) also posted that stat about the NYR and winning a series 2 to 1).
You, me, and Greg can throw Kyle into the Hudson next weekend.
Bobrovsky was clearly grasping at straws for a high stick there./////
LOL I like Kakko, I really do!! Just want to see him turn his strong forecheck ability into consistent offense. It's funny, in other Rangers chats I'm in I'm the Kakko defender talking about all the little things he still provides, but here I look like the hater
hater.
glad to be on team KK, done deal, Brett, maybe off the GWB?
Yeah, Bob, Maurice and the rest of them. For a team that has a lot of intimidators, they sure do whine and flop a lot. Rodrigues' making-love-to-the-ice act after JT elbow was EPL-worthy ffs. Off to the dressing room was good theater, poor baby.
Kyle, Artemi, dunno. He hung in pretty well vs CAR, maybe the back-to-back with two physical teams? 3rd and OT he dribbled what should have been passes/shots. Saw that same bench shot you did.
instead of his stick, would the goal still have counted?
yes, if it just ricocheted off his glove and as long as he didn't bat it into the net.
Is this where it gets a little tricky?
He was obviously angling his stick to deflect the puck which is exactly what he did… with the puck hitting the shaft of his stick between his gloves. But if he made the same motion but the puck hit his glove instead… maybe the goal is called off?
Had he just stood there and made no motion whatsoever and the puck smashed off his glove into the goal by accident… that’s gotta be a goal.
But Wennberg made an angling motion with his stick which — while not batting at the ball — may still have been a problematic goal had it gone off his glove. No?
The first goal and the last goal were probably both ones he’d like a do over on. But he made some terrific saves late in the third and in overtime to keep them alive, when the Panthers were dominating the action.
In Bob’s case, while most people are putting the loss on him, the Panthers skaters have much to answer for on the game winner. How on earth was there no one within 30 feet of Wennberg in front of the net?
Can’t expect even the best goalie to clean up all of the messes.
Miller was horrendous in the opening period and nearly blew the game at the start of OT.
As someone mentioned earlier, I too thought that there had to be something wrong with Bread. He was awful yesterday. Avoiding contact, lethargic, and that whiff off the offensive zone face off win was embarrassing.
The first goal and the last goal were probably both ones he’d like a do over on. But he made some terrific saves late in the third and in overtime to keep them alive, when the Panthers were dominating the action.
In Bob’s case, while most people are putting the loss on him, the Panthers skaters have much to answer for on the game winner. How on earth was there no one within 30 feet of Wennberg in front of the net?
A couple of them were on the boards with Gus and Kakko. Kakko actually helped get that puck up the boards to Lindgren. Also, a scramble off a draw like that and guys are going to be out of position. It was a wise move by Lindgren to shoot that when he did.
to be clear, Brett, you're saying that, <in addition to> the Forsling goal--and I agree with pj there--you thought he should have had first goal of the game?
I'll go back to a discussion we had (mostly pj) about Varlamov vs the Canes: I commented that late 3rd in an Islander loss, he looked totally exhausted, sruggled to regain his feet after a butterfly, etc., and that the sheer number of shots 'faced' he was physically a shell of himself. pj countered with the stat that SOG was more like the high 30s and not so beyond the pale, and I countered that the keeper has to "play" every shot taken whether it's a SOG or not because it is not foretold that it does not reach the net/deflected/ or high/wide whatever.
I think yesterday was similar: whatever the SOG or xGA, Igor has to play, to react to, each and every one of the 90 some odd shots taken even if it does not become a SOG. If you saw him skate off after the 3rd, he was drenched and wasted. Reducing his effort to excellence or mediocrity via a statistical result tells only part of the story. That said, I didn't think it was his best game either, but as so often the case behind these Rangers d-men, he didn't have enough help.
The first goal and the last goal were probably both ones he’d like a do over on. But he made some terrific saves late in the third and in overtime to keep them alive, when the Panthers were dominating the action.
In Bob’s case, while most people are putting the loss on him, the Panthers skaters have much to answer for on the game winner. How on earth was there no one within 30 feet of Wennberg in front of the net?
I don't blame goalies for tipped shots like that. That was a great play by Wennberg and believe it or not (I don't know if it was the case with Lindgren) players who shoot from the blue line on plays like that aren't necessarily trying to score, they know it's unlikely to beat an NHL goalie clean from a shot from the blue line, they are shooting for sticks because the tipped shot is so hard to save. It's a big part of practice now, at all levels.
That goal was a breakdown off a face-off. Kulikov chased the loose puck, got caught out of position, OEL for some reason provided board support, and Rodrigues left his guy off the face off (Wennberg).
Not to second guess Paul Maurice, but this is why I don't have our players line up this way. our RD would be low on the face off circle below the center (depending if he's trying to draw the puck back like usual) so he can decide how to react, not on the half wall, and a wing would be in that spot covering Roslovic. Roslovic cannot score from there, why have Kulikov line up there and they (FLA) have two players in front of Bobrovsky covering one NYR player.
In comment 16525176 ColHowPepper said:...Is it me or does Miller seem less assertive when paired with Trouba? And Schneider less likely to rush the puck with Gus? I think they're both better when they play together.
I don't know how to characterize it, Victor, may be the way you say, but Lavvy splitting up Schneider and KAM to re-join JT with KAM was a head scratcher for sure, esp. when it seemed to me and I think many others that the two young guys really played off each other well. JT has had a rough 2nd half of season/Playoffs. To my eye Gus has been pretty steady, as I said above.
To your point about assertive generally, in going over the game last night trying to fall asleep (was pretty wired after watching my recording cuz like Brett I watched 3rd and OT from a bar), I tried to recall the last time in these Playoffs vs CAR and now FLA that a d-man collected a loose puck in the slot or in the circles and just aggressively skated the puck out of the def zone by himself--a zone exit!!!, Makar or Heiskanen like--and I was hard pressed to come up with any, Schneider might be the closest. His game yesterday was uneven, competed hard, but a lot of mistakes.
RE: RE: Jon in NJ….now there’s a blast from the past
He plays a 200 foot game. Wish Kreider and Panarin would do the same. Not happening!!!
I am impressed with Cyhtil’s performance as he has only played a couple of games since being out since November. You notice him on the ice imv.
I don’t know what to make of the Rangers D corps.
They are losing almost every 50/50 battle for the puck.
They want to chip the puck out instead of carry the puck out on almost every occasion.
Way too many stick checks by D corps also.
Fox is moving at about 50% capacity.
I’m not sure what the hell is going on with Miller.
They need to figure out the PP.
I think Fox’s injury is a big issue on PP
I like moneypuck (who I used in that last post), natural stat trick (he only had the Panthers with 2.67 xGF so he agrees with you on the first goal), and hockey stat miner (who is a NYR fan (maybe posts on here, lol) also posted that stat about the NYR and winning a series 2 to 1).
I love MoneyPuck and HockeyStatMiner. I haven't used Natural Hat Trick much.
I thought MoneyPuck saying the Rangers deserved to win in G1 was interesting. I disagreed lol.
to be clear, Brett, you're saying that, <in addition to> the Forsling goal--and I agree with pj there--you thought he should have had first goal of the game?
I'll go back to a discussion we had (mostly pj) about Varlamov vs the Canes: I commented that late 3rd in an Islander loss, he looked totally exhausted, sruggled to regain his feet after a butterfly, etc., and that the sheer number of shots 'faced' he was physically a shell of himself. pj countered with the stat that SOG was more like the high 30s and not so beyond the pale, and I countered that the keeper has to "play" every shot taken whether it's a SOG or not because it is not foretold that it does not reach the net/deflected/ or high/wide whatever.
I think yesterday was similar: whatever the SOG or xGA, Igor has to play, to react to, each and every one of the 90 some odd shots taken even if it does not become a SOG. If you saw him skate off after the 3rd, he was drenched and wasted. Reducing his effort to excellence or mediocrity via a statistical result tells only part of the story. That said, I didn't think it was his best game either, but as so often the case behind these Rangers d-men, he didn't have enough help.
I thought he should have had the first one. I'm actually more forgiving on the Forsling goal. It was a nice shot.
Will Kakko be back? Is this a time to bring back Wheeler? Does Brodzinski give us Roslovic's speed but with more grit? Does Rempe play in an away game where matchups are in FL's control? Do we sub Jones for Gustafsson for a bit more play making and better puck control?
Stay tuned.
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Will Kakko be back? Is this a time to bring back Wheeler? Does Brodzinski give us Roslovic's speed but with more grit? Does Rempe play in an away game where matchups are in FL's control? Do we sub Jones for Gustafsson for a bit more play making and better puck control?
Stay tuned.
My opinion is that Gus and Rempe stay in the lineup. I would believe that Vessey is out and probably Kakko comes back. We shall see.
Will Kakko be back? Is this a time to bring back Wheeler? Does Brodzinski give us Roslovic's speed but with more grit? Does Rempe play in an away game where matchups are in FL's control? Do we sub Jones for Gustafsson for a bit more play making and better puck control?
Stay tuned.
The Rangers are 9-3 these playoffs, you're not going to see any major changes. With Vesey out today that gets Kakko back in the lineup. I think the only decision to be made is, does Lavi keep Rempe in there? Or does he get Wheeler back in the lineup? I'd be good with either. Panthers are tough and lay hard hits, see Vesey being week to week with a shoulder injury. So having Rempe in there makes sense. But if Lavi doesn't trust Rempe enough defensively in a tough road game with FL getting last line change, then this could be the perfect opportunity to get Wheeler back in and see what he could do.
It is listed as start time. Puck drop I'd guess not long after. IOW it's not a 3:30 puck drop after 30 min pre-game nonsense. it may be 3:10 or something though after anthems, etc..
Will Kakko be back? Probably, but maybe on the 4th line.
Is this a time to bring back Wheeler? No. He's old and slow and that is not a good combination.
Does Brodzinski give us Roslovic's speed but with more grit? Yes. Roslovic stinks
Does Rempe play in an away game where matchups are in FL's control? I have joked about the legend of Matt Rempe, but he did what the team needed for him to do, bang bodies, forecheck, be responsible in his own zone. He did all that.
Do we sub Jones for Gustafsson for a bit more play making and better puck control? No. Gus is a more physical player, is more seasoned and is good offensively. At this point and especially against this team, Jones is only an injury replacement.
JMO
Expectations. You don't expect a lot of offense from Jonny B. What you expect is some forechecking, some hustle and getting the puck deep. For the most part, he does that. The expectations for Roslovic are for more offense. His offense isn't better than Jonny B without the forechecking and hustle.
We can't keep relying on Shesty as savior. The offensive production by our D, including getting the puck out of our zone, has really fallen off. Partly due to Fox's probable injury. I hold my breath every time Trouba has the puck on his stick in the D zone. Gus has not played at the level when he subbed for Fox. Maybe it's age-related stamina?
Jones played well and showed he is not a liability in the D zone. He excels at getting the puck out. Pair him with Trouba and reunite Miller and Schneider.
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In the moneypuck simulation, the Rangers win game 1 ~60% of the time. However, as we all know if you don't score you will lose 100% of the games you play, so Igor's goalie play was made irrelevant by the lack of scoring, but sometimes stats provide context and help frame what you're seeing.
Both games so far (in this two game series) the Panthers have had 2.3 or less xGF). The Rangers have done a really good job of allowing zone time without allowing scoring chances. So much so, it may be part of their play. Keep everything to the outside. clog up the middle. block shots and transition.
Igor is playing great, but he's has not been a "savior" in fact you could argue in game 1 he did more to hurt the team than help them (beyond what he is expected to do). He had a negative expected goals saved in game 1.
Igor basically stole game 3 vs CAR (3-2 OT win) and played really well in games 1 and 2 vs CAR (above expectations) since then he has mostly made the saves he's expected to make.
- Wheeler? heh, he didn't exactly set the 'first line' on fire when healthy. He went, what ~ 20 games before notching a goal? We saw his play, he is slow. Being slow, he's not great on the backcheck. His experience is 'bout only thing going for him.
- agree w/ most what BC and Gmen say
- Kappo, for jiminy crickets' sake!! Look at the GA stats Greg posted on Friday. He set up the Schneider breakaway with a perfect pass from his BL and set up a score vs CAR with a similar outlet, iirc. Maybe Lavvy wants to see more fire, more aggression, from him, there is a phlegmatic aspect to KK's game, but he's strong on the puck and defensively 95% responsible, which puts him right up there with Trocheck and a bit ahead of Laf. Roslovic shows me very little at this stage of the game.
- will be interesting to see how Maurice deploys his lines vs ours with last change. I'm looking for Cuylle to do some stuff: he has been so close, so often these playoffs.
- Zib, Kreider, Panarin ??? You never know but the team needs something more from them, a lot more. Gotta hope '24 is not '22 and '23 redux.
- pj, yeah, 3:10 sounds about right. Got to meet friends for early dinner and requested a table near the bar TV. Life of the party (:
Gotta stay physical and let them make mistakes but we need to get the power play going it's what got us here.
We need speed on the ice and play fast they will commit stupid penalties.
Leave Rempe in the lineup.
Leave Rempe in the lineup.
I agree with this approach.
Instead, stupid pass, stupid turnover took a penalty and Florida leads 1-0
When he got worked during the penalty or the goal?
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When he got worked during the penalty or the goal?
Yes, he didn’t react and just stood there
Yep. Rangers are in trouble. Florida gets it to two goals and I doubt they'll match that.
We all know he is injured
Panthers taking advantage of it
We all know he is injured
Panthers taking advantage of it
The whole team looks like they're in slow motion
You fucking slidmark
And that was a horse shit fucking call also
Fucking Miller
And that was a horse shit fucking call also
Just a bad luck goal, off Trouba’s skate
That call on him was a joke. Should be interference on FLA.
I don't know what it is about being a Rangers fan, but its so hard to not expect the worst
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That call on him was a joke. Should be interference on FLA.
He needs to plant himself in front of Bob and not move
The refs didn’t throw the puck into the the stands.
The refs didn’t throw the puck into the the stands.
But they blew a call on rempe. Didnt call on trip against Roslovic and blew the whistle for no reason when we had an odd man rush.
After McDonough broke his foot in 2015, I thought that was a bad break, to see Fox struggling like this seems unfair to happen to same team twice in a decade in conference finals
Seems like he got lucky that wasn’t 5 minutes. Essentially elbowed him in the jaw
Yeah.
PK unit needs to come up big
He found another level at just the right time huh
2 tremendous goals
Let’s kill the rest of this penalty
I've never seen a guy get two penalties like that - I didn't realize it would be two consecutive penalties, rather than someone else serving the second and 5 on 3. Not sure which is better in general for the shorthanded team, but in this case, certainly not getting a shortie at 5 on 3.
And Bread/Mika/Shesty will handle tings from there.
Seriously, has he won a face off in this series yet?
What about the cup in 2014, didn’t we blow two or three two goal leads in those games
And another
It's getting ridiculous
Like clock work
it's unreal how much mika and bread have disappeared. Chris as well, though he gets a bit of a pass since he got us here.
Where the fuck is Kreider and Panarin
More disappointed with Kreider honestly
Hopefully that's not too much to ask for
it's unreal how much mika and bread have disappeared. Chris as well, though he gets a bit of a pass since he got us here.
Fuck that, we’re winning this!
Where the fuck is Kreider and Panarin
More disappointed with Kreider honestly
Panarin might be the worst guy on the ice right now. He has no confidence.
So we play with 11 forwards who have no tread left on the tires from bring forechecked for 60 minutes
With the way Trouba is playing, he should be scratched. He won't be, but he's been horrific.
So we play with 11 forwards who have no tread left on the tires from bring forechecked for 60 minutes
That’s on the coach for only playing him 4 minutes Not on Rempe. He had a penalty today - what’s kakko or about 15 other players on this team done this entire series ?
The defense has been no great shakes....way too many unforced turnovers and no where near enough trying ti break the forecheck. Just dancing with them, trying to stick check and hope
Agreed.
Taking it, though.
Go to the net, good things happen.
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That’s a tough team,it’s like Carolina on steroids
I don't know. FL is relentless. NyR are opportunistic
Funny how that works. It's almost as if the goal is where the scoring happens.
No, it’s still even. Florida’s strength is Rangers weakness. I think we have more depth and a world class goalie
Gus, Goodrow, Laf,Trouba, Trocheck, lindgren know how to play playoff hockey.
HUUUUUUUGE WIN. Pressure on the Cats now. Tuesday is going to make this game look like preseason.
But that won’t keep up…..
Igor stealing one for us with his late 3rd period/OT work is a very uncomfortable formula, but the W counts all the same
I hope the top guys can find their game and we can ramp this up to another level (not holding my breath for bread, if he has no space he can't do anything)
We have the best goalie. We definitely deserve this.
Lavvy must be livid
Well aware. Highway robbery
Goodrow has been fucking amazing.
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Vinny ❤️
The bad.
WTF W Bread Mika and Krieder. Krieder's Hat trick is why we are here but those three need to unfuck themselves fast.
Panthers were the finals last year. Great team. And while you . Gotta give your opponent credit the those three gotta wake up.
definitely, it's one of the keys to winning a cup. you need a goalie who can steal a game. Both teams have one this series which makes it so fun.
NYR need to figure out the PP. If Fox has no agility I'd swap out Gus or Miller as PP QB.
Barclay Goodrow has changed my mind completely on that concept. As bad as he was in the regular season, he has been PHENOMENAL in the playoffs. I don’t fully get why, but Goodrow has clearly flipped a switch in the playoffs.
Barclay Goodrow has changed my mind completely on that concept. As bad as he was in the regular season, he has been PHENOMENAL in the playoffs. I don’t fully get why, but Goodrow has clearly flipped a switch in the playoffs.
Reminds me of Esa Tikkanen. In the regular season he was just a guy, kind of a dick. But when the money was on the line he became a difference maker.
Barclay Goodrow has changed my mind completely on that concept. As bad as he was in the regular season, he has been PHENOMENAL in the playoffs. I don’t fully get why, but Goodrow has clearly flipped a switch in the playoffs.
Especially when you see some of the Rangers playing like pool shrinkage. There truly is something to being built for this time of year.
Shesty, Laffy, and Goody all deserve major respect. Lindy is a fucking warrior.
I don’t want to focus on some of the guys shitting their diapers just yet.
What a fucking win!!!!!
The top line has to get it going. Can’t win this series without those 3 AND a hobbled Fox.
They dive like Greg Louganis though. I’m surprised that they let Rodriguez out of intensive care so quickly. For such a tough guy, Tkachuk hits the ice easier than whiskey.
Who would you take out? Rempe? They seem to win with him in the lineup...
Thank God you did. Stole one.
What's "undeserved" about excellent goaltending?
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Who would you take out? Rempe? They seem to win with him in the lineup...
lol. Yeah, that's why they won.
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Who would you take out? Rempe? They seem to win with him in the lineup...
lol. Yeah, that's why they won.
The Rempe Effect is real. Don't ask me how, but it's real...and it's spectacular!
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definitely, it's one of the keys to winning a cup. you need a goalie who can steal a game. Both teams have one this series which makes it so fun.
NYR need to figure out the PP. If Fox has no agility I'd swap out Gus or Miller as PP QB.
The shot attempts were 44-10 in the third.
The second best PP QB has been scratched.
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definitely, it's one of the keys to winning a cup. you need a goalie who can steal a game. Both teams have one this series which makes it so fun.
NYR need to figure out the PP. If Fox has no agility I'd swap out Gus or Miller as PP QB.
The shot attempts were 44-10 in the third.
The second best PP QB has been scratched.
I agree with the coaches. He would not hold up to this forecheck any better than the current 6, in fact it would probably be much worse.
I deserved this.
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Well aware. Highway robbery
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don't deserve this, lol
Well aware. Highway robbery
I took ojacs comment as about us fans, not the team. The team deserves it, Igor is part of the team. Us fans? I'm self aware enough to know rangers fans are hardcore fucking doomers
oh, yeah, 100% the fans. and you know I'm just giving you all shit. Fun playoff ride so far. But great call NYR fans are Such doomers, lol. You all live and die with every play and I love it and I hate it. lol. Hopefully you don't mind my commentary. In the past Rangers fans have asked me not to post on their threads. This was about a decade ago though. Some of the thinner skin fans have left the site or mellowed out.
I think after a loss I'd be less present.
Two times in a row now.
Just win, baby.
Whoever mentioned Evan Rodrigues hit the nail on the head - dude was facedown on the ice for five minutes yet showed absolutely no ill effects.
Just win, baby.
Whoever mentioned Evan Rodrigues hit the nail on the head - dude was facedown on the ice for five minutes yet showed absolutely no ill effects.
I was surprised that wasn't a major. NYR lucked out IMO whether or not it was embellished. The broadcast crew wouldn't shut up about it - even the studio crew in between periods. But they never showed a view with the point of contact, so I have to believe it was elbow to shoulder or I have no explanation.
And while we're on the topic. PK Subban is horrendous. He is just downright brutal and so is Messier and Bissonette and the ESPN crew are awful too, all brutal. TNT, ESPN, just shitty studio crews.
they should get the Hockey Night in Canada crew from sportsnet. Kelly Hrudey, Kevin Bieksa, Jennifer Botterill, and hosted by Ron McLean for in between periods or at least watch and learn how it's done.
The best moments were when they have Shaq in studio - he's hilarious. Hank isn't bad, but he sticks out with that crew like a sore thumb (in a good way, but he doesn't fit in).
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don't deserve this, lol
Well aware. Highway robbery
I took ojacs comment as about us fans, not the team. The team deserves it, Igor is part of the team. Us fans? I'm self aware enough to know rangers fans are hardcore fucking doomers
oh, yeah, 100% the fans. and you know I'm just giving you all shit. Fun playoff ride so far. But great call NYR fans are Such doomers, lol. You all live and die with every play and I love it and I hate it. lol. Hopefully you don't mind my commentary. In the past Rangers fans have asked me not to post on their threads. This was about a decade ago though. Some of the thinner skin fans have left the site or mellowed out.
I think after a loss I'd be less present.
Lol, I don't remember that at all.
Game threads are explosive. But I think we have a good group who laughs at themselves after.
Let’s just win the next two and close these kittens out on Thursday so that I can chirp these twats into oblivion for the entirety of the trip
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don't deserve this, lol
Well aware. Highway robbery
I took ojacs comment as about us fans, not the team. The team deserves it, Igor is part of the team. Us fans? I'm self aware enough to know rangers fans are hardcore fucking doomers
oh, yeah, 100% the fans. and you know I'm just giving you all shit. Fun playoff ride so far. But great call NYR fans are Such doomers, lol. You all live and die with every play and I love it and I hate it. lol. Hopefully you don't mind my commentary. In the past Rangers fans have asked me not to post on their threads. This was about a decade ago though. Some of the thinner skin fans have left the site or mellowed out.
I think after a loss I'd be less present.
If you're the reason Arcarsenal is nowhere to be seen, I'll never forgive you.
But if you're the reason why Jon in NJ left...well then, GIDDY UP!
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don't deserve this, lol
Well aware. Highway robbery
I took ojacs comment as about us fans, not the team. The team deserves it, Igor is part of the team. Us fans? I'm self aware enough to know rangers fans are hardcore fucking doomers
oh, yeah, 100% the fans. and you know I'm just giving you all shit. Fun playoff ride so far. But great call NYR fans are Such doomers, lol. You all live and die with every play and I love it and I hate it. lol. Hopefully you don't mind my commentary. In the past Rangers fans have asked me not to post on their threads. This was about a decade ago though. Some of the thinner skin fans have left the site or mellowed out.
I think after a loss I'd be less present.
Lol, I don't remember that at all.
Game threads are explosive. But I think we have a good group who laughs at themselves after.
I once said that Zherdev was as talented as Ovechkin. Good times…I think it was after he scored that incredible goal against the Penguins, I think.
What happened to Wuphat?
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Just win, baby.
Whoever mentioned Evan Rodrigues hit the nail on the head - dude was facedown on the ice for five minutes yet showed absolutely no ill effects.
I was surprised that wasn't a major. NYR lucked out IMO whether or not it was embellished. The broadcast crew wouldn't shut up about it - even the studio crew in between periods. But they never showed a view with the point of contact, so I have to believe it was elbow to shoulder or I have no explanation.
And while we're on the topic. PK Subban is horrendous. He is just downright brutal and so is Messier and Bissonette and the ESPN crew are awful too, all brutal. TNT, ESPN, just shitty studio crews.
they should get the Hockey Night in Canada crew from sportsnet. Kelly Hrudey, Kevin Bieksa, Jennifer Botterill, and hosted by Ron McLean for in between periods or at least watch and learn how it's done.
The best moments were when they have Shaq in studio - he's hilarious. Hank isn't bad, but he sticks out with that crew like a sore thumb (in a good way, but he doesn't fit in).
Couldn’t agree more.
ESPN’s coverage has been abysmal!
The studio crew sound like a bunch of fanboys sitting in a basement, swilling beer and providing nothing more than stammering banter.
Steve Levy is a net negative and Slewbban is more concerned with what he’s going to wear on set than he is with meaningful analysis. Unless of course you consider his analysis of what the players are wearing as they make their way into the arena before the game.
The in game broadcast is an abomination. The director in the truck inexplicably repeatedly throws camera shots to a close up of a given player skating off on change while the puck is being carried up ice or we see a tight shot of Igor or Bobvrosky after a save while the puck is still live and going the other way. This happens multiple times a game and is inexcusable.
TNT is led by Bozo Bissonette and his unbuttoned shirt, constant screwing with his facial hair and meandering. He’s not awful when he’s focused on the game analysis but his ADHD has him wandering off again.
A week ago or so he called Yandle an asshole on air after Yandle threw a bard at him. While it might not sound like a big deal it speaks to his level of buffoonery brand that he clearly enjoys all too much.
Liam McHugh and his cartoon frog voice is grating and he doesn’t help rein in Biz for fear he won’t come across as one of the boys.
ESPN and TNT can be so much better but I just don’t think they care e out about what a real hockey audience is looking for.
It may come across as biased but I truly believe there aren’t many better than the MSG in studio crew with Gianone, Vali, Hank and/or Boyler.
They provide a terrific player perspective and in-depth analysis.
LGR!
All the Rangers fans on here are great. Passionate.
Not going to name names, most don't post here any more. I wish they did, the threads were fun, but I did cringe more than I do at some of Anakim's posts.
Zherdev could have been an absolute star. Analytics also adored him.
Analytics also loved Nigel Dawes. I think if Dawes was four years younger he carves out a decade long career in the middle six.
He actually just announced his retirement from pro hockey last year.
All the Rangers fans on here are great. Passionate.
Not going to name names, most don't post here any more. I wish they did, the threads were fun, but I did cringe more than I do at some of Anakim's posts.
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All the Rangers fans on here are great. Passionate.
Not going to name names, most don't post here any more. I wish they did, the threads were fun, but I did cringe more than I do at some of Anakim's posts.
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most. Some? lol
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Who would you take out? Rempe? They seem to win with him in the lineup...
lol. Yeah, that's why they won.
who was that in the crease tying up the defenseman and distracting Bobrovsky on the 1st Goodrow goal?
Just win, baby.
Whoever mentioned Evan Rodrigues hit the nail on the head - dude was facedown on the ice for five minutes yet showed absolutely no ill effects.
How about whomever (Bennett?) it was that went down like he was struck by lightning and got the refs to blow a safety whistle during a Rangers odd-man rush? I don't think he even got off the ice for a medical check.
How was that not embellishment? If for no other reason than it made the refs look like morons.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1794908197645652115
Amazing how alone #91 is, no Panther w/i 18'. (loved the shot of the FLA fan who looks like he just heard his BFF sleeping with his wife)
The 'first' line wilted as usual, invisible, and Panarin looks shell shocked, he can't even get off a clean pass or shot.
Gus was our best d-man, but man, the Panthers owned the ice behind Igor's net. Downright ugly, humbling. Too often again, KAM's clearing attempts picked off/deflected and he chases toward the wall, abandoning crease area = 2 goals. Where are the backchecking Fs??
that's right he was.
Rempe is filling his role effectively. He's in on the forecheck and in front of the net. He should be playing more. That is a perfect 4th line. The Rangers are getting pounded by the Cats physically and need to dish some back. Other than Trocheck and Lafreniere, who in the top 6 is filling his role effectively? Panarin has been shit, dancing around the perimeter now that the going has gotten rough. Mika and Kreider have disappeared. Chytil has added nothing.
They took 6 minors, most just lazy, yesterday, yet Rempe's is the only one talked about.
Thank God for Igor, he stole that game. And that it was an early game so he can get some extra rest.
You, me, and Greg can throw Kyle into the Hudson next weekend.
Bobrovsky was clearly grasping at straws for a high stick there.
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Amazing how alone #91 is, no Panther w/i 18'. (loved the shot of the FLA fan who looks like he just heard his BFF sleeping with his wife)
The 'first' line wilted as usual, invisible, and Panarin looks shell shocked, he can't even get off a clean pass or shot.
Gus was our best d-man, but man, the Panthers owned the ice behind Igor's net. Downright ugly, humbling. Too often again, KAM's clearing attempts picked off/deflected and he chases toward the wall, abandoning crease area = 2 goals. Where are the backchecking Fs??
Is it me or does Miller seem less assertive when paired with Trouba? And Schneider less likely to rush the puck with Gus? I think they're both better when they play together.
Considering that, and the slow starts for Mika and Kreider, being up 2-1 is phenomenal.
You, me, and Greg can throw Kyle into the Hudson next weekend.
Bobrovsky was clearly grasping at straws for a high stick there.
LOL I like Kakko, I really do!! Just want to see him turn his strong forecheck ability into consistent offense. It's funny, in other Rangers chats I'm in I'm the Kakko defender talking about all the little things he still provides, but here I look like the hater
2022 R1: PIT led 2-1, NY won 4-3
2022 R2: CAR led 2-1, NY won 4-3
2022 R3: NY led 2-1, TB won 4-2
2023 R1: NY led 2-1, NJD won 4-3
The analytics show xGA for Igor of 3.84 and he allowed 4 goals for a net negative in goals saved above expected. In other words he saved most of what he should be expected to but not all, so per the analytics he did not really steal the game. Bobrovsky was brutal. Per the disparity in expected goals, Florida should have won that game and in simulations they win it over 80% of the time. The Rangers did not have a lot of scoring chances that were deemed "expected goals".
Bobrovsky had xGA of 1.691 and allowed 5 goals - which is a playoff worst single game net of a whopping -3.31 goals saved above expected. Bobrovsky has a tendency for clunkers. It had been a while, but for those who remember last year, he was so erratic with FLA began their playoff run, journeyman Alex Lyon was the starter in net.
To fans, who cares, Igor is the best, but underneath the results, he did not play his best game. Not that you should care.
FWIW I thought the Forsling goal off the face off was one Igor should have had. It was a straight shot (a good one to be fair) but from a non-goal scorer. it wasn't like a sniper shooting who beats you plus Igor had a good luck at it without traffic (just shows why I harp on face offs so much).
Anyway, stats aren't everything and xGA is somewhat subjective (like defense stats in baseball) and moneypuck doesn't own a monopoly on determined xGA, so think what you want. Just wanted to provide some context.
yes, if it just ricocheted off his glove and as long as he didn't bat it into the net.
The Rangers won John Tortorella style, lol. Igor played well but the Panthers didn't have a million chances. I also thought Igor should have had the first goal.
I like moneypuck (who I used in that last post), natural stat trick (he only had the Panthers with 2.67 xGF so he agrees with you on the first goal), and hockey stat miner (who is a NYR fan (maybe posts on here, lol) also posted that stat about the NYR and winning a series 2 to 1).
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CHP on team Kakko brings a smile to my face. :)
You, me, and Greg can throw Kyle into the Hudson next weekend.
Bobrovsky was clearly grasping at straws for a high stick there./////
LOL I like Kakko, I really do!! Just want to see him turn his strong forecheck ability into consistent offense. It's funny, in other Rangers chats I'm in I'm the Kakko defender talking about all the little things he still provides, but here I look like the hater
hater.
glad to be on team KK, done deal, Brett, maybe off the GWB?
Yeah, Bob, Maurice and the rest of them. For a team that has a lot of intimidators, they sure do whine and flop a lot. Rodrigues' making-love-to-the-ice act after JT elbow was EPL-worthy ffs. Off to the dressing room was good theater, poor baby.
Kyle, Artemi, dunno. He hung in pretty well vs CAR, maybe the back-to-back with two physical teams? 3rd and OT he dribbled what should have been passes/shots. Saw that same bench shot you did.
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instead of his stick, would the goal still have counted?
yes, if it just ricocheted off his glove and as long as he didn't bat it into the net.
Is this where it gets a little tricky?
He was obviously angling his stick to deflect the puck which is exactly what he did… with the puck hitting the shaft of his stick between his gloves. But if he made the same motion but the puck hit his glove instead… maybe the goal is called off?
Had he just stood there and made no motion whatsoever and the puck smashed off his glove into the goal by accident… that’s gotta be a goal.
But Wennberg made an angling motion with his stick which — while not batting at the ball — may still have been a problematic goal had it gone off his glove. No?
In Bob’s case, while most people are putting the loss on him, the Panthers skaters have much to answer for on the game winner. How on earth was there no one within 30 feet of Wennberg in front of the net?
Miller was horrendous in the opening period and nearly blew the game at the start of OT.
As someone mentioned earlier, I too thought that there had to be something wrong with Bread. He was awful yesterday. Avoiding contact, lethargic, and that whiff off the offensive zone face off win was embarrassing.
In Bob’s case, while most people are putting the loss on him, the Panthers skaters have much to answer for on the game winner. How on earth was there no one within 30 feet of Wennberg in front of the net?
A couple of them were on the boards with Gus and Kakko. Kakko actually helped get that puck up the boards to Lindgren. Also, a scramble off a draw like that and guys are going to be out of position. It was a wise move by Lindgren to shoot that when he did.
I'll go back to a discussion we had (mostly pj) about Varlamov vs the Canes: I commented that late 3rd in an Islander loss, he looked totally exhausted, sruggled to regain his feet after a butterfly, etc., and that the sheer number of shots 'faced' he was physically a shell of himself. pj countered with the stat that SOG was more like the high 30s and not so beyond the pale, and I countered that the keeper has to "play" every shot taken whether it's a SOG or not because it is not foretold that it does not reach the net/deflected/ or high/wide whatever.
I think yesterday was similar: whatever the SOG or xGA, Igor has to play, to react to, each and every one of the 90 some odd shots taken even if it does not become a SOG. If you saw him skate off after the 3rd, he was drenched and wasted. Reducing his effort to excellence or mediocrity via a statistical result tells only part of the story. That said, I didn't think it was his best game either, but as so often the case behind these Rangers d-men, he didn't have enough help.
In Bob’s case, while most people are putting the loss on him, the Panthers skaters have much to answer for on the game winner. How on earth was there no one within 30 feet of Wennberg in front of the net?
I don't blame goalies for tipped shots like that. That was a great play by Wennberg and believe it or not (I don't know if it was the case with Lindgren) players who shoot from the blue line on plays like that aren't necessarily trying to score, they know it's unlikely to beat an NHL goalie clean from a shot from the blue line, they are shooting for sticks because the tipped shot is so hard to save. It's a big part of practice now, at all levels.
That goal was a breakdown off a face-off. Kulikov chased the loose puck, got caught out of position, OEL for some reason provided board support, and Rodrigues left his guy off the face off (Wennberg).
Not to second guess Paul Maurice, but this is why I don't have our players line up this way. our RD would be low on the face off circle below the center (depending if he's trying to draw the puck back like usual) so he can decide how to react, not on the half wall, and a wing would be in that spot covering Roslovic. Roslovic cannot score from there, why have Kulikov line up there and they (FLA) have two players in front of Bobrovsky covering one NYR player.
To your point about assertive generally, in going over the game last night trying to fall asleep (was pretty wired after watching my recording cuz like Brett I watched 3rd and OT from a bar), I tried to recall the last time in these Playoffs vs CAR and now FLA that a d-man collected a loose puck in the slot or in the circles and just aggressively skated the puck out of the def zone by himself--a zone exit!!!, Makar or Heiskanen like--and I was hard pressed to come up with any, Schneider might be the closest. His game yesterday was uneven, competed hard, but a lot of mistakes.
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Still out there somewhere, passionately defending Nikolai Zherdev and putting quotation marks around ‘Torts’.
I once said that Zherdev was as talented as Ovechkin. Good times…I think it was after he scored that incredible goal against the Penguins, I think.
What happened to Wuphat?
I am impressed with Cyhtil’s performance as he has only played a couple of games since being out since November. You notice him on the ice imv.
I don’t know what to make of the Rangers D corps.
They are losing almost every 50/50 battle for the puck.
They want to chip the puck out instead of carry the puck out on almost every occasion.
Way too many stick checks by D corps also.
Fox is moving at about 50% capacity.
I’m not sure what the hell is going on with Miller.
They need to figure out the PP.
I think Fox’s injury is a big issue on PP
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I like moneypuck (who I used in that last post), natural stat trick (he only had the Panthers with 2.67 xGF so he agrees with you on the first goal), and hockey stat miner (who is a NYR fan (maybe posts on here, lol) also posted that stat about the NYR and winning a series 2 to 1).
I love MoneyPuck and HockeyStatMiner. I haven't used Natural Hat Trick much.
I thought MoneyPuck saying the Rangers deserved to win in G1 was interesting. I disagreed lol.
I'll go back to a discussion we had (mostly pj) about Varlamov vs the Canes: I commented that late 3rd in an Islander loss, he looked totally exhausted, sruggled to regain his feet after a butterfly, etc., and that the sheer number of shots 'faced' he was physically a shell of himself. pj countered with the stat that SOG was more like the high 30s and not so beyond the pale, and I countered that the keeper has to "play" every shot taken whether it's a SOG or not because it is not foretold that it does not reach the net/deflected/ or high/wide whatever.
I think yesterday was similar: whatever the SOG or xGA, Igor has to play, to react to, each and every one of the 90 some odd shots taken even if it does not become a SOG. If you saw him skate off after the 3rd, he was drenched and wasted. Reducing his effort to excellence or mediocrity via a statistical result tells only part of the story. That said, I didn't think it was his best game either, but as so often the case behind these Rangers d-men, he didn't have enough help.
I thought he should have had the first one. I'm actually more forgiving on the Forsling goal. It was a nice shot.