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NFT: Mets vs D-backs: Gm 4🍓Quintana (L) vs Pfaadt (R)🍓1:40pm ET

Optimus-NY : 6/2/2024 1:15 pm

Starting Lineups for both clubs today.
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups for the game today in Flushing against the Diamondbacks & tomorrow in D.C. against the Nats.
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#LFGM!🍓🍓🍓

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Notes:
-The game today will be on WPIX, but tomorrow’s game will be on SNY.
-The weather forecast for today's games at Citi Field looks pretty good again. Click HERE to keep updated and see Hourly AccuWeather Reports for there.
-Today’s Lou Gehrig Day throughout MLB. Click HERE to read about it briefly. The first 15,000 fans at today’s game will receive a Darryl Strawberry Baseball Card Bobblehead. The Mets sent LHP reliever Josh Walker back down to Triple-A Syracuse & activated RHP reliever Drew Smith from the 15-day injured list.

-Click HERE to see the list of Mets transactions to start the month of June.
-Click HERE to see the Mets' 26-man active roster.
-The Mets' 4-man bench for today’s game will consist of Nido (R), Marte (R), Iglesias (R), & Bader (R).
Check out the Minor League thread for June below:  
Optimus-NY : 6/2/2024 1:18 pm : link
We'll be doing one each month for the rest of the season. It'll be easier to consolidate info this way and for everyone to be able to follow along any news and information centering around the big club's various affiliates.


NFT: Mets Minor League Thread (June) - DanMetroMan - 6/1/2024 10:45 am


*For reference purposes, here are the links for previous months as well:

NFT: Mets Minor Leagues (May) - DanMetroMan - 5/1/2024 12:15 pm

NFT: Mets Minor League Update (April) - DanMetroMan - 4/2/2024 10:17 am
My 2 cents:  
BocaGene : 6/2/2024 1:18 pm : link
I like the individual game scenario vs. the series one.

Obviously, I don't put in the effort that Optimus does.

Probably should be your call.
Here are a couple of useful financial websites:  
Optimus-NY : 6/2/2024 1:18 pm : link
Cot's Baseball Contracts - A Clearinghouse for MLB Salary and Payroll details


RosterResource - Team Payroll - NEW YORK METS PLAYER PAYROLL
Vote today folks:  
Optimus-NY : 6/2/2024 1:21 pm : link
Who wants individual game threads and who wants a thread per series?

Please just let us know. Eric asked the question on yesterday's thread a bit earlier today, so I'm just posting it here. It doesn't make a difference to me. I've got a template and will do whatever the crowd decides. It's not hard for me either way. Honestly. I'd say if it was.
Here are links to today's game:  
Optimus-NY : 6/2/2024 1:33 pm : link
*Courtesy of sportsurge.net*

Mets vs. D-backs | 1:40 pm EDT start - June 2, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Mets' feed – WPIX: Gary & Keith (strfish.xyz)

Mets vs. D-backs | 1:40 pm EDT start - June 2, 2024 – TV Broadcast: D-backs’ feed – Diamondbacks TV: Berthiaume & Gonzalez (strfish.xyz)

MLB.com - Gameday: Pitch by Pitch – Mets vs. D-backs – June 2, 2024 - 1:40 pm EDT start


Note: Ron isn’t calling today’s game.

Enjoy the game 🍓😊🍓
Please don't forget to vote today on the thread situation folks.  
Optimus-NY : 6/2/2024 1:37 pm : link
Single game vs. a thread per series. Gene started us off. Thanks.
My vote: 1 thread per series  
Optimus-NY : 6/2/2024 1:39 pm : link
Reason: The action is slowing down for every game thread. It's not any problem for me to make a thread for each and every game since I've got a template and can jazz it up or bare bone it down as I see fit. Less people are posting---and for good reason. Might as well consolidate things into one thread per series IMO. That's my two cents. I'll go with the consensus.
RE: Vote today folks:  
dannysection 313 : 6/2/2024 1:49 pm : link
In comment 16529247 Optimus-NY said:
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Who wants individual game threads and who wants a thread per series?

Please just let us know. Eric asked the question on yesterday's thread a bit earlier today, so I'm just posting it here. It doesn't make a difference to me. I've got a template and will do whatever the crowd decides. It's not hard for me either way. Honestly. I'd say if it was.


You da man, Optimus...

I'm OK with one per series, but much of the reason for my feeling this way is because of how the season is going....seems like a lot to ask of you as the losses pile up, the threads become less frequented, and become more of a place for folks to vent than to discuss the complicated intricacies of NY Mets baseball!

When things go as badly as they did in May, I tend to "rubberneck" more than watch every inning, which sucks as Met baseball is kind of my evening entertainment during the summer.

I do enjoy the contributions folks make here; misery loves company and all that good stuff, I suppose.
1 per thread works  
JayBinQueens : 6/2/2024 1:49 pm : link
Assuming they stay on the same trajectory. If they start doing well and chatter picks up we can look to change imo
Quintana...  
dannysection 313 : 6/2/2024 1:51 pm : link
One of many culprits to this disappointing season.

Sucks to turn the game on and see they're down 2 runs already.

Wasn't he supposed to be good? Or at least, not bad?
Great start here  
bhill410 : 6/2/2024 1:52 pm : link
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1 thread per series  
Sammo85 : 6/2/2024 1:53 pm : link
I’m at game today. Bad start so far. They are all over Quintana on his pitches.

Cheered for Lindor (for Rory and Eric) when he came at bat. Little smattering boos for Alonso in section I’m in.
RE: 1 thread per series  
JayBinQueens : 6/2/2024 2:25 pm : link
In comment 16529270 Sammo85 said:
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I’m at game today. Bad start so far. They are all over Quintana on his pitches.



Beautiful day for a game
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Named Later : 6/2/2024 2:32 pm : link
I'll cast my vote for 1 thread per series. Speaking as a 'distant' fan down here in Charleston, it's difficult to keep close tabs on the big club. The Lineup that you post each day is a big help Optimus -- maybe that can be used to separate the games within each series.

Quintana stinks on ice, Joey Lucchesi is pitching a pretty good game at Syracuse this afternoon....5 scoreless with 6 K's.
Bring him up.

Acuna is 1 for 3, Baty has a HR.
RE: 1 thread per series  
Optimus-NY : 6/2/2024 2:50 pm : link
In comment 16529270 Sammo85 said:
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I’m at game today. Bad start so far. They are all over Quintana on his pitches.

Cheered for Lindor (for Rory and Eric) when he came at bat. Little smattering boos for Alonso in section I’m in.


Take pics! It's a beautiful day at least. Let us know what the atmosphere's like as the game progresses please.
RE: ..  
Optimus-NY : 6/2/2024 2:52 pm : link
In comment 16529293 Named Later said:
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I'll cast my vote for 1 thread per series. Speaking as a 'distant' fan down here in Charleston, it's difficult to keep close tabs on the big club. The Lineup that you post each day is a big help Optimus -- maybe that can be used to separate the games within each series.

Quintana stinks on ice, Joey Lucchesi is pitching a pretty good game at Syracuse this afternoon....5 scoreless with 6 K's.
Bring him up.

Acuna is 1 for 3, Baty has a HR.


That's exactly what I'd plan on doing with the lineups and starting pictures: they'd separate each game within the same thread. Nothing different really, just consolidated.
RE: RE: 1 thread per series  
Sammo85 : 6/2/2024 3:00 pm : link
In comment 16529303 Optimus-NY said:
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I’m at game today. Bad start so far. They are all over Quintana on his pitches.

Cheered for Lindor (for Rory and Eric) when he came at bat. Little smattering boos for Alonso in section I’m in.



Take pics! It's a beautiful day at least. Let us know what the atmosphere's like as the game progresses please.


Yes. No humidity basically. Fans are into it today. That big 3rd inning brought fans back to life.

McNeil looks like a shell of a ballplayer. Bunch of us talking and it’s pretty universal. They can’t keep running him out there much longer. Heck try Baty there if you have to.
RE: My vote: 1 thread per series  
Eric on Li : 6/2/2024 3:12 pm : link
In comment 16529255 Optimus-NY said:
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Reason: The action is slowing down for every game thread. It's not any problem for me to make a thread for each and every game since I've got a template and can jazz it up or bare bone it down as I see fit. Less people are posting---and for good reason. Might as well consolidate things into one thread per series IMO. That's my two cents. I'll go with the consensus.


i agree - and i know you said it's not a big deal but it's still 1/3 the copy/pasting you need to do ;)
RE: 1 thread per series  
Eric on Li : 6/2/2024 3:13 pm : link
In comment 16529270 Sammo85 said:
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I’m at game today. Bad start so far. They are all over Quintana on his pitches.

Cheered for Lindor (for Rory and Eric) when he came at bat. Little smattering boos for Alonso in section I’m in.


have to say im genuinely happy for you that you seem to be enjoying the team more even though they had the most frustrating month possible. hope you get a W today.
dug in a bit on vientos' success so far this year this am  
Eric on Li : 6/2/2024 3:30 pm : link
and it is really one of those situations that is fascinating in it's confusing-ness when you compare him to his previous MLB numbers where he wasn't as productive.

average exit velo is down almost 5 mph this year (bad)
hard hit rate lower (bad)
hitting more groundballs this year (bad)
lower launch angle (was a criticism of him)
going opposite way less (has generally been a strength) and pulling the ball a lot more





and yet he's having more success, how?

for starters K's way down and barrel rate way up (both very good). So he is doing a better job getting his pitches and making more contact when he gets them. which includes both good (barrels) and bad (weaker) contact.

he is also going up the middle a lot more which may be part of why he's pulling the ball more.

this is all small sample so there's likely distortion, especially in the exit velo from his couple recent swinging bunt IF hits, but i think the main takeaway is that he being selectively and successfully aggressive. he is not walking a lot more, but he's doing a good job of not getting himself out and putting the bat on strikes. and with his bat speed and strength when he does that good things are likely to happen.
perfect timing as he gets himself out swinging on a bad pitch  
Eric on Li : 6/2/2024 3:32 pm : link
that's the thing we probably want to see least from him. in a nutshell i think the more we see that swing at bad pitches the less likely the success continues.
RE: RE: 1 thread per series  
Sammo85 : 6/2/2024 3:44 pm : link
In comment 16529311 Eric on Li said:
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I’m at game today. Bad start so far. They are all over Quintana on his pitches.

Cheered for Lindor (for Rory and Eric) when he came at bat. Little smattering boos for Alonso in section I’m in.



have to say im genuinely happy for you that you seem to be enjoying the team more even though they had the most frustrating month possible. hope you get a W today.


I’m happy Vientos is playing. Watching him just see a natural hitter.
Reality of Mets situation  
Sammo85 : 6/2/2024 3:47 pm : link
They have some guys other teams are going to be interested in. JDM, Garrett, Manaea just to start. Alonso and Severino will be curious cases.
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Named Later : 6/2/2024 4:00 pm : link
I'd want to hang on to the Pitchers -- Garrett, Manae and Sevy just to bridge the gap to the young arms in the high minors.

Anybody else on the roster.....make me an offer.
Also love watching JDM swing  
Sammo85 : 6/2/2024 4:01 pm : link
His hit in the 3rd was a thing of beauty. Such a strong mechanically smooth swing. Alonso is a more violent torque swinger.
RE: ..  
Sammo85 : 6/2/2024 4:01 pm : link
In comment 16529338 Named Later said:
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I'd want to hang on to the Pitchers -- Garrett, Manae and Sevy just to bridge the gap to the young arms in the high minors.

Anybody else on the roster.....make me an offer.


They may actually need to move Manaea due to the option.
barring injury manaea likely opts out so not a big concern  
Eric on Li : 6/2/2024 4:05 pm : link
realistically there will only be so many teams willing to give up good returns for rentals at deadline.

if i were met GM id be hunting for pham/j-rod or d-rob/vargas type moves, and ideally the guys i trade are the guys i want to clear out any way to open up playing time in 2nd half for Baty, Acuna, Gilbert, and aren't going to be in the future plans or options for QOs.

Marte, Bader, JDM fit that description best.
Thanks Diekman  
Sammo85 : 6/2/2024 4:05 pm : link
Thanks a lot!
this freaking bullpen  
Eric on Li : 6/2/2024 4:06 pm : link
stearns first big failure. he shopped bargain bin over guys more experienced in closing roles/big markets and we are seeing where that's led. high profile implosions.
RE: barring injury manaea likely opts out so not a big concern  
Sammo85 : 6/2/2024 4:07 pm : link
In comment 16529346 Eric on Li said:
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realistically there will only be so many teams willing to give up good returns for rentals at deadline.

if i were met GM id be hunting for pham/j-rod or d-rob/vargas type moves, and ideally the guys i trade are the guys i want to clear out any way to open up playing time in 2nd half for Baty, Acuna, Gilbert, and aren't going to be in the future plans or options for QOs.

Marte, Bader, JDM fit that description best.


True. Lotto ticket time. Bader has real value for postseason. Defense, running.
RE: this freaking bullpen  
Sammo85 : 6/2/2024 4:11 pm : link
In comment 16529348 Eric on Li said:
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stearns first big failure. he shopped bargain bin over guys more experienced in closing roles/big markets and we are seeing where that's led. high profile implosions.


True. Although made worse and sort of in flux with the Diaz situation. His failures and now questions kind of have thrown it around the blender. I don’t think Stearns was enthralled with bringing Ottavino back and Raleys injury was a big hit.
i didnt hate that he was going the tampa route for RP in offseason  
Eric on Li : 6/2/2024 4:12 pm : link
but i think what we are seeing is that the tampa route cant work in NY the way it does in Tampa where nobody is paying attention.

NY is a pressure cooker where you need to have known commodities accustomed to pressure.
RE: RE: this freaking bullpen  
Eric on Li : 6/2/2024 4:16 pm : link
In comment 16529351 Sammo85 said:
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stearns first big failure. he shopped bargain bin over guys more experienced in closing roles/big markets and we are seeing where that's led. high profile implosions.



True. Although made worse and sort of in flux with the Diaz situation. His failures and now questions kind of have thrown it around the blender. I don’t think Stearns was enthralled with bringing Ottavino back and Raleys injury was a big hit.


no doubt they got some bad breaks, but i think you need to build a team expecting bad breaks. especially if you run the mets.

also if ever there was a roster that needed to invest big in a BP it was this one, the SP didn't have anyone who was reliable for big innings and they were expected to play a lot of close games won/lost in BP.

nerris and robertson having hung out on the market as long as they did, and having only received about 2x what they gave fujinami, who hasnt even been on the big league club, are the 2 that got away. both very experienced late game/big market and would have hedged against diaz not being diaz right away.
I’d agree  
Sammo85 : 6/2/2024 4:18 pm : link
I did hear though Robertson was not interested too much in coming back to Mets.
RE: I’d agree  
Eric on Li : 6/2/2024 4:20 pm : link
In comment 16529355 Sammo85 said:
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I did hear though Robertson was not interested too much in coming back to Mets.


maybe not but money talks. considering what he signed just a week or so before pitchers and catchers for i doubt he had many options on january 1st.
Put another "L" in the books...  
Optimus-NY : 6/2/2024 4:26 pm : link
RE: RE: I’d agree  
CooperDash : 6/2/2024 4:26 pm : link
In comment 16529356 Eric on Li said:
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I did hear though Robertson was not interested too much in coming back to Mets.



maybe not but money talks. considering what he signed just a week or so before pitchers and catchers for i doubt he had many options on january 1st.


True - money does talk. But the last thing this team needs is a player that doesn’t want to be here. Especially one at the end of his career and that’s just here for money.

So much for that “players only meeting”. This team is still quite bad.
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Eric on Li : 6/2/2024 4:28 pm : link
In comment 16529360 CooperDash said:
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I did hear though Robertson was not interested too much in coming back to Mets.



maybe not but money talks. considering what he signed just a week or so before pitchers and catchers for i doubt he had many options on january 1st.



True - money does talk. But the last thing this team needs is a player that doesn’t want to be here. Especially one at the end of his career and that’s just here for money.

So much for that “players only meeting”. This team is still quite bad.


they had the game won today - just like 7 others in May - if they can close it out.

this season being below expectations right now is 100% on the BP.

convert just 5 of those 8 save opps and they are .500 right now.
RE: RE: My vote: 1 thread per series  
Optimus-NY : 6/2/2024 4:41 pm : link
In comment 16529310 Eric on Li said:
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Reason: The action is slowing down for every game thread. It's not any problem for me to make a thread for each and every game since I've got a template and can jazz it up or bare bone it down as I see fit. Less people are posting---and for good reason. Might as well consolidate things into one thread per series IMO. That's my two cents. I'll go with the consensus.



i agree - and i know you said it's not a big deal but it's still 1/3 the copy/pasting you need to do ;)


True dat. I'd still post lineups for each game though inside the thread for a given series. I think we've got a consensus for trying it out this way (one thread per series). I'll start it tomorrow, unless anyone has any objectives. We can do it as a trial for the Nats series and see how people like it.
11 blown saves?  
dannysection 313 : 6/2/2024 4:56 pm : link
Wow, what a difference a reliable closer makes; and some of the blown saves were with multiple run leads.

Woulda, coulda, shoulda, but if Sugar is the 2022 Sugar, and the Mets win 8 of those 11 they would be 32-27.

Only five hits (four in the one inning they scored), doesn't help.

Finally, how much rope does DJ Stewart get at this point? Bad in the field, no speed, and not much at the plate....
RE: 11 blown saves?  
Optimus-NY : 6/2/2024 5:00 pm : link
In comment 16529374 dannysection 313 said:
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Wow, what a difference a reliable closer makes; and some of the blown saves were with multiple run leads.

Woulda, coulda, shoulda, but if Sugar is the 2022 Sugar, and the Mets win 8 of those 11 they would be 32-27.

Only five hits (four in the one inning they scored), doesn't help.

Finally, how much rope does DJ Stewart get at this point? Bad in the field, no speed, and not much at the plate....


This thing is unraveling quickly. Great job by Stearns...
RE: 11 blown saves?  
Eric on Li : 6/2/2024 5:23 pm : link
In comment 16529374 dannysection 313 said:
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Wow, what a difference a reliable closer makes; and some of the blown saves were with multiple run leads.

Woulda, coulda, shoulda, but if Sugar is the 2022 Sugar, and the Mets win 8 of those 11 they would be 32-27.

Only five hits (four in the one inning they scored), doesn't help.

Finally, how much rope does DJ Stewart get at this point? Bad in the field, no speed, and not much at the plate....


well said. considering they dont have any OF all that close right now with gilbert injured, id be getting baty reps in the OF. if he hits a ton over the next couple weeks and they want to bring him back up, stewart could be the countermove.
mentioned baty because he hit 1 ball 416 today and another 420  
Eric on Li : 6/2/2024 5:25 pm : link
more than even vientos whenever he has been in AAA he has typically made it apparent quickly he is too good for that level. hopefully that happens again, and hopefully he can get some playing time in the OF and can come up with the ability to get himself an extra start or 2 per week out there if necessary.
1 thread per series  
X : 6/2/2024 5:33 pm : link
is fine.

Thanks for doing this!

These guys are a tough watch right now with the BP blowing a game what seems like every other day
RE: 1 thread per series  
Optimus-NY : 6/2/2024 5:58 pm : link
In comment 16529396 X said:
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is fine.

Thanks for doing this!

These guys are a tough watch right now with the BP blowing a game what seems like every other day


I can't stomach it man.
Just got home  
Sammo85 : 6/2/2024 6:38 pm : link
Brutal game to go to and see them lose. Traffic was horrible both ways but it was a family trip. Fans booed them really loud after they lost. Weather was great but man that was a tale of two games and a team that has some lack of sustainable energy both at the plate and with the pitching.
RE: mentioned baty because he hit 1 ball 416 today and another 420  
dannysection 313 : 6/2/2024 7:32 pm : link
In comment 16529388 Eric on Li said:
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more than even vientos whenever he has been in AAA he has typically made it apparent quickly he is too good for that level. hopefully that happens again, and hopefully he can get some playing time in the OF and can come up with the ability to get himself an extra start or 2 per week out there if necessary.


What do they have to lose by playing Baty in the outfield instead of DJ Stewart?

Baty has to be the better athlete and has a chance, still, to become a real MLB player....what's the absolute best you are going to get from Stewart? He had a nice run at the end of last year, otherwise, he has never been a plus major leaguer.

Gotta find out about Baty, unless they're sure they're going to dump him in July and are trying to get his value up with big numbers in AAA.
1 thread a series is fine with me  
Rory : 6/2/2024 10:39 pm : link
Also this bullpen was the teams strength at the start of the season so I can’t get on Stearns there

Not sure you can fairly evaluate anyone in their first year here.

Mets fans on this thread  
M.S. : 6/3/2024 8:16 am : link
Just gotta say, with everything going wrong this season, I am amazed you guys are still watching the games and keeping your sanity. You guys have cast iron stomachs.
RE: Mets fans on this thread  
Optimus-NY : 6/3/2024 9:17 am : link
In comment 16529629 M.S. said:
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Just gotta say, with everything going wrong this season, I am amazed you guys are still watching the games and keeping your sanity. You guys have cast iron stomachs.


We Mets fans are hard core---and a little nuts, lol. Now that the winter sports season is over for the last of the NY teams (the Rangers having lost unfortunately to Florida a day and a half ago), the spotlight will slowly start to shift to baseball. The Mets still have a bit of cover due to the national sports scene and betting with the NBA Finals and SCF Finals starting soon along with the NBA and NHL Drafts at the end of June along with Foosball mini camps. All that will be over in less than 4 weeks though. If they continue at this pace, then the media will come down on them HARD.

At this point, as Mets fans, we're focused on the future and how the players coming up in the minors can help. We're also observing how Stearns' people are making decisions and dealing with problems. Sure, the wins and losses suck, but how things come about is thing to take not of the most. Personally, I take solace in the fact that we've got a great owner with funds and will spend $$, who cares, and who wants to win and do it the right way (i.e., long-term sustainable success). It's hard to imagine, but we've still got almost 4 more months of this crap to go, lol.
RE: RE: Mets fans on this thread  
Sammo85 : 6/3/2024 9:38 am : link
In comment 16529663 Optimus-NY said:
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Just gotta say, with everything going wrong this season, I am amazed you guys are still watching the games and keeping your sanity. You guys have cast iron stomachs.



We Mets fans are hard core---and a little nuts, lol. Now that the winter sports season is over for the last of the NY teams (the Rangers having lost unfortunately to Florida a day and a half ago), the spotlight will slowly start to shift to baseball. The Mets still have a bit of cover due to the national sports scene and betting with the NBA Finals and SCF Finals starting soon along with the NBA and NHL Drafts at the end of June along with Foosball mini camps. All that will be over in less than 4 weeks though. If they continue at this pace, then the media will come down on them HARD.

At this point, as Mets fans, we're focused on the future and how the players coming up in the minors can help. We're also observing how Stearns' people are making decisions and dealing with problems. Sure, the wins and losses suck, but how things come about is thing to take not of the most. Personally, I take solace in the fact that we've got a great owner with funds and will spend $$, who cares, and who wants to win and do it the right way (i.e., long-term sustainable success). It's hard to imagine, but we've still got almost 4 more months of this crap to go, lol.


Yup. The rest of this year and offseason is really where Stearns can start to do more serious work. I’ve said I will not really wholly judge Stearns until we’ve got 2026 in the books.

There’s a lot of pieces Stearns can move if he chooses and some payroll transition so a reinvestment in some additional bridge pitching can occur if so chosen.
RE: RE: Mets fans on this thread  
M.S. : 6/3/2024 9:46 am : link
In comment 16529663 Optimus-NY said:
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Just gotta say, with everything going wrong this season, I am amazed you guys are still watching the games and keeping your sanity. You guys have cast iron stomachs.



We Mets fans are hard core---and a little nuts, lol. Now that the winter sports season is over for the last of the NY teams (the Rangers having lost unfortunately to Florida a day and a half ago), the spotlight will slowly start to shift to baseball. The Mets still have a bit of cover due to the national sports scene and betting with the NBA Finals and SCF Finals starting soon along with the NBA and NHL Drafts at the end of June along with Foosball mini camps. All that will be over in less than 4 weeks though. If they continue at this pace, then the media will come down on them HARD.

At this point, as Mets fans, we're focused on the future and how the players coming up in the minors can help. We're also observing how Stearns' people are making decisions and dealing with problems. Sure, the wins and losses suck, but how things come about is thing to take not of the most. Personally, I take solace in the fact that we've got a great owner with funds and will spend $$, who cares, and who wants to win and do it the right way (i.e., long-term sustainable success). It's hard to imagine, but we've still got almost 4 more months of this crap to go, lol.

The crazy thing is that just two years ago the Mets won something like 100 games and all the indicators seemed to be pointing in the right direction. I don't follow baseball that closely (and when I do my short attention span is on the Yanks) so I gotta ask: What the hell happened? Injuries? Bad trades? Ownership decided to pull the plug and start over from the ground up?
RE: RE: Mets fans on this thread  
GF1080 : 6/3/2024 9:57 am : link
In comment 16529663 Optimus-NY said:
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Just gotta say, with everything going wrong this season, I am amazed you guys are still watching the games and keeping your sanity. You guys have cast iron stomachs.



We Mets fans are hard core---and a little nuts, lol. Now that the winter sports season is over for the last of the NY teams (the Rangers having lost unfortunately to Florida a day and a half ago), the spotlight will slowly start to shift to baseball. The Mets still have a bit of cover due to the national sports scene and betting with the NBA Finals and SCF Finals starting soon along with the NBA and NHL Drafts at the end of June along with Foosball mini camps. All that will be over in less than 4 weeks though. If they continue at this pace, then the media will come down on them HARD.

At this point, as Mets fans, we're focused on the future and how the players coming up in the minors can help. We're also observing how Stearns' people are making decisions and dealing with problems. Sure, the wins and losses suck, but how things come about is thing to take not of the most. Personally, I take solace in the fact that we've got a great owner with funds and will spend $$, who cares, and who wants to win and do it the right way (i.e., long-term sustainable success). It's hard to imagine, but we've still got almost 4 more months of this crap to go, lol.


Well said Optimus!
Stearns Talks Baty, Christian Scott and His Opinion on Mets Prospects  
Ira : 6/3/2024 10:05 am : link
A very nice interview. I'm very impressed by Stearns' intelligence and judgment.
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In comment 16529663 Optimus-NY said:
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Just gotta say, with everything going wrong this season, I am amazed you guys are still watching the games and keeping your sanity. You guys have cast iron stomachs.



We Mets fans are hard core---and a little nuts, lol. Now that the winter sports season is over for the last of the NY teams (the Rangers having lost unfortunately to Florida a day and a half ago), the spotlight will slowly start to shift to baseball. The Mets still have a bit of cover due to the national sports scene and betting with the NBA Finals and SCF Finals starting soon along with the NBA and NHL Drafts at the end of June along with Foosball mini camps. All that will be over in less than 4 weeks though. If they continue at this pace, then the media will come down on them HARD.

At this point, as Mets fans, we're focused on the future and how the players coming up in the minors can help. We're also observing how Stearns' people are making decisions and dealing with problems. Sure, the wins and losses suck, but how things come about is thing to take not of the most. Personally, I take solace in the fact that we've got a great owner with funds and will spend $$, who cares, and who wants to win and do it the right way (i.e., long-term sustainable success). It's hard to imagine, but we've still got almost 4 more months of this crap to go, lol.


well said optimus. if this were a wilpon owned team id be disgusted and have tuned out already probably.

but it's not, cohen is investing everything he can and under the surface it is working. there is a ton of great stuff going on in the system, some of which is at the mlb level already (vientos, scott, soon to be alvarez).

as long as cohen continues doing what he's doing i think stearns is going to get this thing turned around quicker than many expect, and even in what looks to be trending toward a lost season they are still competitive (other than BP). in the next few months they should add some more prospects and probably have a few more ready for calls up too (gilbert, acuna, etc).
This team needs to start turning over the dead wood soon.  
Optimus-NY : 6/3/2024 11:03 am : link
Narvaez is gone, so that's a start. Guys like McNeil, Quintana, and Marte are next. Some live wood's gonna need to go too: J.D. Martinez comes to mind when I say that of course and perhaps one of Severino or Manaea and even a guy like Reed Garrett. The next 6 weeks will decide if the Mets are sellers or not.
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dannysection 313 : 6/3/2024 11:07 am : link
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Just gotta say, with everything going wrong this season, I am amazed you guys are still watching the games and keeping your sanity. You guys have cast iron stomachs.



We Mets fans are hard core---and a little nuts, lol. Now that the winter sports season is over for the last of the NY teams (the Rangers having lost unfortunately to Florida a day and a half ago), the spotlight will slowly start to shift to baseball. The Mets still have a bit of cover due to the national sports scene and betting with the NBA Finals and SCF Finals starting soon along with the NBA and NHL Drafts at the end of June along with Foosball mini camps. All that will be over in less than 4 weeks though. If they continue at this pace, then the media will come down on them HARD.

At this point, as Mets fans, we're focused on the future and how the players coming up in the minors can help. We're also observing how Stearns' people are making decisions and dealing with problems. Sure, the wins and losses suck, but how things come about is thing to take not of the most. Personally, I take solace in the fact that we've got a great owner with funds and will spend $$, who cares, and who wants to win and do it the right way (i.e., long-term sustainable success). It's hard to imagine, but we've still got almost 4 more months of this crap to go, lol.



well said optimus. if this were a wilpon owned team id be disgusted and have tuned out already probably.

but it's not, cohen is investing everything he can and under the surface it is working. there is a ton of great stuff going on in the system, some of which is at the mlb level already (vientos, scott, soon to be alvarez).

as long as cohen continues doing what he's doing i think stearns is going to get this thing turned around quicker than many expect, and even in what looks to be trending toward a lost season they are still competitive (other than BP). in the next few months they should add some more prospects and probably have a few more ready for calls up too (gilbert, acuna, etc).


A little nuts, Optimus?

I'd go bigger, haha....just ask my wife who otherwise lives with a sane, balanced, well adjusted adult....when it comes to the Mets, well, it all goes out the window.

I fell in love with this team in 1969...believe it or not, I was at game 3 against the Braves (I still remember the home run Henry Aaron hit very early in the game....what a bomb). Nolan Ryan with the win, 7 innings in relief.

My first real love of a sports team and here I am all these years later!

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