Darren Waller is expected to make a decision by next week’s minicamp on his playing future and people in and around the team expect he’s going to retire, multiple sources told @AdamSchefter and me. Would be a pleasant surprise if he decided otherwise.
Darren Waller is expected to make a decision by next week’s minicamp on his playing future and people in and around the team expect he’s going to retire, multiple sources told @AdamSchefter and me. Would be a pleasant surprise if he decided otherwise.
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Even if he decides to play, I don’t think we will be getting the best of a 31-year old Waller. His heart just isn’t in it.
Is trying to get cut because he doesn’t want to play for the nyg. I think he is floating the retirement out there simply to get cut and waiting for JS to make the decision. Then he can skip training camp and sign with a contender
Is trying to get cut because he doesn’t want to play for the nyg. I think he is floating the retirement out there simply to get cut and waiting for JS to make the decision. Then he can skip training camp and sign with a contender
Why not just give a list of teams and ask for a trade. If any of those teams actually wanted him they'd probably at least do a late round pick swap.
done for a while. The Giants probably gave him an out if he wanted to change his mind and a deadline, and that would seem to be coming up pretty quickly. The Giants will be gaining cap space with him being off the team..
keep him on a schedule with purpose and great pay. You cant just find income like that. If he's in distress he can take advantage of NYGs medical care incl mental health.
In terms of Giants wins and losses, I don't think Waller will make a
and are trying to be sensitive to that. They've already moved on, and there is no need for them to do anything right now. It may change come mandatory minicamp. They probably prefer him to retire, for his own sake to feel like he left on his own terms. I'm just speculating obviously, but this is my assumption.
If he fails to report, isn't there a category where the Team continues to maintain his rights but his salary comes off the cap? If there is, then he's not looking to get cut. He's really mulling retirement.
*We've seen special teams coordinator Michael Ghobrial really lean into teaching the coverage and return aspect of the new kickoff rule. It's a very different look in practice seeing players lining up five yards from each other and basically frozen in place until the ball is caught by the returner or the kickoff hits the ground. Then all the players explode out of their stances and using pads, work on their blocking and coverage techniques. It's a matter of training the players eyes for what to watch, and then all of them moving together in sync to fulfill their assignments. I think there are going to be a lot of explosive plays early in the season on kick return as teams figure out what they're doing and surprise their opponents by doing things no one expects. One player I noticed during these drills was Dante "Little Turbo" Miller, whose speed lives up to his monicker.
*New running backs coach Joel Thomas has been working with his group on catching the ball throughout the spring. They've developed a series of drills to mimic the pass getting on them quickly and reacting to make the catch. A focus is on catching a vertical pass coming in over their head and behind them. The running backs are not allowed to look back and need to get their hands up and make the catch when the ball appears in their field of vision in front of them.
*Monday's practice was a strong one for the defense that got kick-started by the linebackers. On the first play of the team portion of practice, Bobby Okereke forced Wan'Dale Robinson to make a difficult catch over the middle with strong coverage. On the next play, Micah McFadden sniffed out a screen that would have been limited to no gain.
*The secondary got into the act next, starting with Deonte Banks using his length to prevent a completion to Darius Slayton. Tre Hawkins nearly came up with an interception on a pass in the middle of the field, forcing an incompletion. Cor'Dale Flott ran with Slayton on a deep route and knocked the ball away. Earlier in practice, defensive back Alex Johnson nearly came up with a pick when he knocked a pass away.
*The defensive front made some noise again. A defensive pressure package gave Brian Burns the opportunity to be a free runner to the quarterback, forcing a play to be blown dead. Tyler Nubin and Jalen Mills came free on a blitz that forced the ball to come out of the quarterback's hand. Dexter Lawrence got through the middle to pressure a quick pass to Wan'Dale Robinson in the flat. Tomon Fox created a pressure late in practice that could have been a sack in a game situation.
*Offensively, Wan'Dale Robinson caught a few slants, Darius Slayton was targeted frequently by the quarterbacks, Jashaun Corbin caught a couple of passes in the flat, and rookie Theo Johnson caught a pass from Drew Lock.
Or are they so good because our OL is still not good. We really need this OL to step up. I think we have a talented team.
I think it's:
1) You can't evaluate the trenches in OTAs
2) We have two of our likely top 3 tackles not participating in team drills and I suspect Andrew Thomas isn't in for every rep.
3) Of the Oline taking reps with the starters, at least 3 are new (both guard spots are new to the team and Ezuedu is a guard first filling in at RT).
4) The defensive front 6 is by far the strength of the team
RE: “Sacks” by Edge players like Burns probably indicate that an OT
Or are they so good because our OL is still not good. We really need this OL to step up. I think we have a talented team.
I think it's:
1) You can't evaluate the trenches in OTAs
2) We have two of our likely top 3 tackles not participating in team drills and I suspect Andrew Thomas isn't in for every rep.
3) Of the Oline taking reps with the starters, at least 3 are new (both guard spots are new to the team and Ezuedu is a guard first filling in at RT).
4) The defensive front 6 is by far the strength of the team
Good post...one more important point to add:
There is no physical contact between the linemen during OTAs, so speed rushers can go around the corner without being touched.
No idea if the Oline is good or bad just yet...don't think we'll know until full padded practices in training camp.
Darren Waller is expected to make a decision by next week’s minicamp on his playing future and people in and around the team expect he’s going to retire, multiple sources told @AdamSchefter and me. Would be a pleasant surprise if he decided otherwise.
Darren Waller is expected to make a decision by next week’s minicamp on his playing future and people in and around the team expect he’s going to retire, multiple sources told @AdamSchefter and me. Would be a pleasant surprise if he decided otherwise.
Even if he decides to play, I don’t think we will be getting the best of a 31-year old Waller. His heart just isn’t in it.
Why not just give a list of teams and ask for a trade. If any of those teams actually wanted him they'd probably at least do a late round pick swap.
We now have scarier WRs than we had last year, so a scary TE who can't block may not be the answer anyway.
Question: Will Waller cause as much of a distraction if he does show up as he has without showing up?
We are just off the field after the @Giants 7th OTA - here's what @MattCitak and I saw from the sideline.
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PLEASE RETIRE AND BE GONE WITH YOU.
Brian Burns, Tomon Fox, and Dexter Lawrence had "sacks".
Deonte Banks and Cor'Dale Flott with good coverage.
On offense, Wan'Dale Robinson continues to make plays. Theo Johnson had a nice catch.
If it came down to it and he's on reserve/retired, they could Pugh him off his couch if he's willing.
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but if our TEs start getting dinged, I would still take Waller over some waiver wire JAG.
If it came down to it and he's on reserve/retired, they could Pugh him off his couch if he's willing.
I think I'd rather have him in the building every day, where at least he's at practice and working out.
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but if our TEs start getting dinged, I would still take Waller over some waiver wire JAG.
If it came down to it and he's on reserve/retired, they could Pugh him off his couch if he's willing.
I think I'd rather have him in the building every day, where at least he's at practice and working out.
Brian Burns, Tomon Fox, and Dexter Lawrence had "sacks".
This doesn't sound promising for the OL. Maybe Fox got his from the backups.
exactly. I want Stoll and Manhertz to make it anyway.
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Brian Burns, Tomon Fox, and Dexter Lawrence had "sacks".
This doesn't sound promising for the OL. Maybe Fox got his from the backups.
It doesn't really matter. The OL isn't going to look good for a while - even if the players are excellent. WHich is a whole different conversation.
Plus Burns and Lawerence will punk even good season-form OLs plenty. It's what they do.
Name keeps popping up……
Note to self: Must. Temper. Expectations and enthusiasm.
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Theo Johnson had a nice catch.
Name keeps popping up……
Note to self: Must. Temper. Expectations and enthusiasm.
If it helps you, I don't remember him being mentioned for more than one good play on any days, which is nice, but not otherworldly
📸 Practice Photos: Best of OTA No. 7 - ( New Window )
Like a tearful T.O. would say sobbing... 'He's my quarterback!'
One deflected pass, two "sacks". Rooting for him, not only because he's from the West Coast, but he's a really good kid and a natural ball-hawk.
Hawkins too. Great to see young UFDAs & late round players getting a chance to prove themselves. Remember UDFA Salza-Dancin' Victor Cruz !
Now that's a player! Look at those thumbs!
*We've seen special teams coordinator Michael Ghobrial really lean into teaching the coverage and return aspect of the new kickoff rule. It's a very different look in practice seeing players lining up five yards from each other and basically frozen in place until the ball is caught by the returner or the kickoff hits the ground. Then all the players explode out of their stances and using pads, work on their blocking and coverage techniques. It's a matter of training the players eyes for what to watch, and then all of them moving together in sync to fulfill their assignments. I think there are going to be a lot of explosive plays early in the season on kick return as teams figure out what they're doing and surprise their opponents by doing things no one expects. One player I noticed during these drills was Dante "Little Turbo" Miller, whose speed lives up to his monicker.
*New running backs coach Joel Thomas has been working with his group on catching the ball throughout the spring. They've developed a series of drills to mimic the pass getting on them quickly and reacting to make the catch. A focus is on catching a vertical pass coming in over their head and behind them. The running backs are not allowed to look back and need to get their hands up and make the catch when the ball appears in their field of vision in front of them.
*Monday's practice was a strong one for the defense that got kick-started by the linebackers. On the first play of the team portion of practice, Bobby Okereke forced Wan'Dale Robinson to make a difficult catch over the middle with strong coverage. On the next play, Micah McFadden sniffed out a screen that would have been limited to no gain.
*The secondary got into the act next, starting with Deonte Banks using his length to prevent a completion to Darius Slayton. Tre Hawkins nearly came up with an interception on a pass in the middle of the field, forcing an incompletion. Cor'Dale Flott ran with Slayton on a deep route and knocked the ball away. Earlier in practice, defensive back Alex Johnson nearly came up with a pick when he knocked a pass away.
*The defensive front made some noise again. A defensive pressure package gave Brian Burns the opportunity to be a free runner to the quarterback, forcing a play to be blown dead. Tyler Nubin and Jalen Mills came free on a blitz that forced the ball to come out of the quarterback's hand. Dexter Lawrence got through the middle to pressure a quick pass to Wan'Dale Robinson in the flat. Tomon Fox created a pressure late in practice that could have been a sack in a game situation.
*Offensively, Wan'Dale Robinson caught a few slants, Darius Slayton was targeted frequently by the quarterbacks, Jashaun Corbin caught a couple of passes in the flat, and rookie Theo Johnson caught a pass from Drew Lock.
Practice Report (6/3): Sideline view of OTA No. 7 - ( New Window )
1) You can't evaluate the trenches in OTAs
2) We have two of our likely top 3 tackles not participating in team drills and I suspect Andrew Thomas isn't in for every rep.
3) Of the Oline taking reps with the starters, at least 3 are new (both guard spots are new to the team and Ezuedu is a guard first filling in at RT).
4) The defensive front 6 is by far the strength of the team
I don't need to be there to answer this question. I will guess you four words:
1.) Josh
2.) Evan
3.) Ezudu
4.) Neal
I leave it up to you to synthesis those words in order....
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Or are they so good because our OL is still not good. We really need this OL to step up. I think we have a talented team.
I think it's:
1) You can't evaluate the trenches in OTAs
2) We have two of our likely top 3 tackles not participating in team drills and I suspect Andrew Thomas isn't in for every rep.
3) Of the Oline taking reps with the starters, at least 3 are new (both guard spots are new to the team and Ezuedu is a guard first filling in at RT).
4) The defensive front 6 is by far the strength of the team
Good post...one more important point to add:
There is no physical contact between the linemen during OTAs, so speed rushers can go around the corner without being touched.
No idea if the Oline is good or bad just yet...don't think we'll know until full padded practices in training camp.
Yeah, I don't think anyone will be "pleasantly" surprised. Just retire already.
Wow, a svelte Daboll getting back into DB form!
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