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| The father of a Philadelphia Eagles star has been allegedly caught with a loaded gun while driving in the Bronx, according to multiple reports. The New York Police Department discovered the weapon after pulling Alibay Barkley over during a traffic stop at the intersection of 140th Street and Third Avenue in Mott Haven, Fox News reported on Thursday night - a day after the incident. Alibay Barkley is the father of former Giants running back Saquon Barkley, who was raised in the Bronx and played in New York for the last six seasons. Barkley Sr could now end up being charged with criminal possession of a weapon, per Fox News. |
I'm kidding
It’s NYC in 2024. He’d be out of jail before he could get those words out of his mouth.
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"Do you know how I am officer? My son plays for the Eagles"
It’s NYC in 2024. He’d be out of jail before he could get those words out of his mouth.
lol, they’d probably give him a gift card and a hug on the way out.
There’s a new DA now (my former supervisor) but I think she would have a similar policy.
That said, I’m assuming Barleys dad is not a bad guy, and if he fights it I’m sure he’d have a good shot with a Bronx jury.
The circumstances with Pax were very different.
1- He had a loaded gun in a club
2- he kept in his sweat pants waist band - it dropped and fired.
3- he was a rich football player, not the dad of one
4- Plax was in manhattan, not the Bronx
Because of those circumstances, there was a media storm
And mayor Bloomberg had a big up his ass about this issue and case and was very vocal about Plax needing to go to jaiil
Barkley
There’s a new DA now (my former supervisor) but I think she would have a similar policy.
That said, I’m assuming Barleys dad is not a bad guy, and if he fights it I’m sure he’d have a good shot with a Bronx jury.
Not his first rodeo.
In 2016, he was arrested and tased for refusing to get off a bus headed to Allentown, Pa. after he was accused of not paying. He later sued the police and the bus company for discrimination, settling for $45,000 in 2018.
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And while we tried to be understanding about crack heads, gun possession was automatic 1 year jail (as the best deal we would offer defendants)
There’s a new DA now (my former supervisor) but I think she would have a similar policy.
That said, I’m assuming Barleys dad is not a bad guy, and if he fights it I’m sure he’d have a good shot with a Bronx jury.
Not his first rodeo.
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The elder Barkley, who lives in Pennsylvania, has a gun possession record dating back to when he was 19 years old and spent a year in jail on Rikers Island.
In 2016, he was arrested and tased for refusing to get off a bus headed to Allentown, Pa. after he was accused of not paying. He later sued the police and the bus company for discrimination, settling for $45,000 in 2018.
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My take of how that would impact him here
He was 19 and did his time
Although same crime - was so long ago will be up to the trial
judge as to whether to even let a new jury hear that
As for the other case - “good for him”. If the cops were not black here - race will be a factor.
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"Do you know how I am officer? My son plays for the Eagles"
It’s NYC in 2024. He’d be out of jail before he could get those words out of his mouth.
This.
My take of how that would impact him here
He was 19 and did his time
Although same crime - was so long ago will be up to the trial
judge as to whether to even let a new jury hear that
As for the other case - “good for him”. If the cops were not black here - race will be a factor.
He'll probably take a plea, as did Plaxico. Would be risky going to a jury. The traffic stop was valid. The gun was loaded and unregistered.
And his son no longer plays for a New York team.
I haven't seen it reported why he was pulled over.
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My take of how that would impact him here
He was 19 and did his time
Although same crime - was so long ago will be up to the trial
judge as to whether to even let a new jury hear that
As for the other case - “good for him”. If the cops were not black here - race will be a factor.
He'll probably take a plea, as did Plaxico. Would be risky going to a jury. The traffic stop was valid. The gun was loaded and unregistered.
And his son no longer plays for a New York team.
All good points
But if a plea means substantial jail time he may go for a trial
Juries often know someone is guilty of what they were charged and decide to acquit.
High stakes
We shall see.
Legal.
A judge will desire that
But if Barkley wins that - no gun in evidence
Case dismissed
In Plax's case the gun went off in a hip hop club. A big diffrence
Lock him in prison. This is why I left NY and won't go back for anything.
It’s Alibay. But hey, don’t let that get in the way of your terrible joke!
Lock him in prison. This is why I left NY and won't go back for anything.
Tool. Another fucking moron.
Yes, because your fear should put people in prison.
Lock him in prison. This is why I left NY and won't go back for anything.
Stay away we have enough assholes even with you gone
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Never hurt anyone, never threatened anyone, never pointed it at anyone.
Lock him in prison. This is why I left NY and won't go back for anything.
Stay away we have enough assholes even with you gone
Clearly
You're as responsible as everyone else for the laws in your state. In my state we don't put people in prison for simply possessing a gun. Commit a crime with it it's another story.
Carrying on now. Hope you never get caught with something your neighbors are afraid of.
Moving on now.
Haha. Says the biggest moron on the site. You simply cannot make this shit up
I haven't seen it reported why he was pulled over.
According to ABC in both Philly & NYC
He was pulled over because the plates on the Corvette he was driving didn't match. The car wasn't registered. He said the gun was his wife's plus it wasn't registered in NY State. There was a family member in the car with him. Not Saquon.
You have a convicted felon with an unregistered and loaded weapon in an unregistered vehicle with non matching plates that crossed state lines.
It wasn't reported if the weapon was registered in PA Or to his wife
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probable cause for the traffic stop?
I haven't seen it reported why he was pulled over.
According to ABC in both Philly & NYC
He was pulled over because the plates on the Corvette he was driving didn't match. The car wasn't registered. He said the gun was his wife's plus it wasn't registered in NY State. There was a family member in the car with him. Not Saquon.
You have a convicted felon with an unregistered and loaded weapon in an unregistered vehicle with non matching plates that crossed state lines.
It wasn't reported if the weapon was registered in PA Or to his wife
You only need probably cause to arrest and it does sounds like there was reason to stop the vehicle (even if they didn’t know til after they would likely lie)
Funny thing is - the vagueness of ownership of the vehicle and family member with him both give good defenses that the gun is not his. That will be his defense.
But if any of you are snakes, sheer cliffs, or the feature the film The Witch, you better watch out. You scare me, and the heavy hand of justice is coming your way.
But if any of you are snakes, sheer cliffs, or the feature the film The Witch, you better watch out. You scare me, and the heavy hand of justice is coming your way.
See, now you get my point about irrational fears being used to incarcerate your neighbors. We're getting somewhere.
But if any of you are snakes, sheer cliffs, or the feature the film The Witch, you better watch out. You scare me, and the heavy hand of justice is coming your way.
See, now you get my point about irrational fears being used to incarcerate your neighbors. We're getting somewhere.
No, no. I'm still just making fun of you.
I'm perfectly good with the laws in my state.
They had a picture of the gun and it was pink
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Well, I'm just glad my fears didn't result in an innocent man getting locked up today.
But if any of you are snakes, sheer cliffs, or the feature the film The Witch, you better watch out. You scare me, and the heavy hand of justice is coming your way.
See, now you get my point about irrational fears being used to incarcerate your neighbors. We're getting somewhere.
No, no. I'm still just making fun of you.
I'm perfectly good with the laws in my state.
I dont care about the laws in your state, its massive number of young (and old) people that are incarcerated in your state that I feel for, but I didn't tell them to live there, so fuck em.
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Oh - he says it was his wife’s. That’s pretty good. I’m guessing they can’t get him on the gun possession and the rest isn’t getting him any jail time.
They had a picture of the gun and it was pink
Under New York law, the presence of an illegal gun inside a car is presumptive evidence of its possession by everyone in the car. Penal Law Section 265.15.
To rebut this presumption, you have to show that your control over the area in the car where the gun was found was not such as to give you the ability to use, or dispose of, the gun.
While it's possible the senior Barkley will evade this charge, "It's my wife's (or whoever's) gun" is not a get out of jail free card.
He hasn't played a down for the Eagles ....
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In comment 16532920 Fifty Six said:
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Well, I'm just glad my fears didn't result in an innocent man getting locked up today.
But if any of you are snakes, sheer cliffs, or the feature the film The Witch, you better watch out. You scare me, and the heavy hand of justice is coming your way.
See, now you get my point about irrational fears being used to incarcerate your neighbors. We're getting somewhere.
No, no. I'm still just making fun of you.
I'm perfectly good with the laws in my state.
I dont care about the laws in your state, its massive number of young (and old) people that are incarcerated in your state that I feel for, but I didn't tell them to live there, so fuck em.
Exactly - if you want to vote for the people who make the laws .... you have to live with their decisions.
I'm perfectly good with the laws in my state.
I dont care about the laws in your state, its massive number of young (and old) people that are incarcerated in your state that I feel for, but I didn't tell them to live there, so fuck em.
My 'feels' lean more towards the side of the victims of gun violence. That people in my state break laws and face the consequences isn't an outcome I feel anything about.
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Oh - he says it was his wife’s. That’s pretty good. I’m guessing they can’t get him on the gun possession and the rest isn’t getting him any jail time.
They had a picture of the gun and it was pink
Under New York law, the presence of an illegal gun inside a car is presumptive evidence of its possession by everyone in the car. Penal Law Section 265.15.
To rebut this presumption, you have to show that your control over the area in the car where the gun was found was not such as to give you the ability to use, or dispose of, the gun.
While it's possible the senior Barkley will evade this charge, "It's my wife's (or whoever's) gun" is not a get out of jail free card.
Good find
Right, it doesn’t matter if it’s his wife’s gun if he “possessed”
It at the time of the traffic stop.
My take
Defenses
1. Illegal stop
2. Illegal seizure/finding of the gun
3. Car isn’t mine, I didn’t know the gun was there. It’s my wife’s gun (he’s apparently locked in on that one)
4. It’s my wife’s gun but she gave it to my family member/ he took it because we were going to a dangerous neighborhood and wanted to be able to protect ourselves
(#4 the family member is guilty of gun possession but that hopes the jury still acquits)
A gun in a car with 2 people is not a simple case, especially in the Bronx
That said, citizens of the Bronx, in general, do not like guns.
But - Maybe the family member is not a dude?
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there? Dudes' name is Alibi.
It’s Alibay. But hey, don’t let that get in the way of your terrible joke!
Is ‘blaming your wife’ suddenly in vogue?
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Oh - he says it was his wife’s. That’s pretty good. I’m guessing they can’t get him on the gun possession and the rest isn’t getting him any jail time.
Is ‘blaming your wife’ suddenly in vogue?
I’m still trying to figure out why gersh thinks that saying “it’s not mine!” Is somehow such a good excuse that they can’t get him for possession when h in fact was the one in possession of it. He was literally in possession of an unregistered weapon. My wife let me borrow it doesn’t seem like a legitimate, legal argument, lol
Sorry for the rant. Haha.
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Oh - he says it was his wife’s. That’s pretty good. I’m guessing they can’t get him on the gun possession and the rest isn’t getting him any jail time.
Is ‘blaming your wife’ suddenly in vogue?
I’m still trying to figure out why gersh thinks that saying “it’s not mine!” Is somehow such a good excuse that they can’t get him for possession when h in fact was the one in possession of it. He was literally in possession of an unregistered weapon. My wife let me borrow it doesn’t seem like a legitimate, legal argument, lol
If it wasn’t in his hand or very close to him “possession” is not clear
To rebut this presumption, you have to show that your control over the area in the car where the gun was found was not such as to give you the ability to use, or dispose of, the gun.
To rebut this presumption, you have to show that your control over the area in the car where the gun was found was not such as to give you the ability to use, or dispose of, the gun.
If it wasn’t in the trunk where he had no access to it, which it clearly wasn’t, your point is moot. And even if it were in the trunk it cannot be loaded. Which it was. Allegedly. And even saying that, none of that has anything to do with your claiming that since he said it was his wife’s gun he was good to go. Nonsense
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Under New York law, the presence of an illegal gun inside a car is presumptive evidence of its possession by everyone in the car. Penal Law Section 265.15.
To rebut this presumption, you have to show that your control over the area in the car where the gun was found was not such as to give you the ability to use, or dispose of, the gun.
If it wasn’t in the trunk where he had no access to it, which it clearly wasn’t, your point is moot. And even if it were in the trunk it cannot be loaded. Which it was. Allegedly. And even saying that, none of that has anything to do with your claiming that since he said it was his wife’s gun he was good to go. Nonsense
I understand your point, but I was an assistant district attorney in the Bronx and the applicable law is more nuanced your understanding here.
That’s an excellent question and will certainly be the subject of a suppression hearing. That will likely be the key of how this case will go
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the rest of the charges about the vehicle (i.e not registered) arise during the stop; they are not cause for it. But, how do they come to know about the gun in a routine traffic stop in the first place?
That’s an excellent question and will certainly be the subject of a suppression hearing. That will likely be the key of how this case will go
They impound vehicles for switched plates, unregistered, uninsured (goes hand in hand with unreg) in the Bronx?
If yes, then inventory search required with impound covers the search aspect.
No, Im in a cold basement with no windows
But good for you
Actually just got out of my pool
But still, good for you
As Ronnie Dangerfield said in Caddyshack, “golf courses and cemeteries, biggest wastes of real estate.”
Wtf? You post on this site all the time. You go golfing once and now you’re Mr. Excitement that is full of adventures and anyone that posted while you were sucking ass at golf for a few hours have no lives? I’d say the guy trying to brag that he actually did something is the loser here. Nobody else would ever feel compelled to even mention it because not one person on this site gives a shit
What a weird post.
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Who cares about SAQUON’s FATHER. Do you guys have a life outside this website?
What a weird post.
You just wait until you hear the names he has for us losers when he gets done with Bingo night at the Elks Club on Tuesday night and he sees all us losers were posting on BBI while he was enjoying another incredible adventure