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NFT: NY Rangers place Barclays Goodrow on waivers

Anakim : 6/18/2024 2:15 pm
Highly doubt he gets claimed, but perhaps he’ll be bought out or traded
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Kyle in NY : 6/18/2024 2:33 pm : link
Mentioned in the end of season thread how Goodrow's underlying metrics in the playoffs were really poor and shooting 40% (though admittedly they were some awesome goals) masked that.

This is a smart, proactive move by Drury. Maybe he can sell high and get someone to take the full cap hit off the books. Three more seasons at 3.6 per is really tough for a team with limited paths to clearing cap space. It's cold business for a guy who puts his body on the line, but a necessary move IMO. We'll see where it leads
Good move.  
BrettNYG10 : 6/18/2024 2:35 pm : link
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there was an article  
pjcas18 : 6/18/2024 2:37 pm : link
I forget if it was athletic or THW, but it had a list of buyout candidates.

I am not a fan of buyouts in general, but the way it would work financially for a Goodrow buyout I'm not sure there has been too many stronger cases for a buyout making sense.

Good player, but way overpaid  
NYerInMA : 6/18/2024 2:39 pm : link
I wish him luck wherever he ends up next.
It was from the  
pjcas18 : 6/18/2024 3:03 pm : link
Daily Face Off.

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3. Barclay Goodrow
Center, New York Rangers
Age: 31
Contract: 3 years remaining, $3.64 million AAV
Buyout Structure: Cap credit, then 5 seasons varying from $1 mil to $3.5 mil
Scoop: The Rangers think highly of Goodrow, who also scored some Empire State-sized goals for the Blueshirts in the playoffs. He netted more goals (6) in 16 postseason contests than he did (4) in 80 regular season games. Go figure. Nonetheless, $3.6 million is way too much to pay your fourth-line center, and there doesn’t appear to be much upward mobility in the lineup for Goodrow. He does his job, and he does it well, but his contract throws New York’s cap balance out of whack. Couple that with the fact that the Rangers could buy him out this month and not only not have a penalty, but a unique salary cap credit of $247,222 next season to effectively increase their cap to $88.247 million? That feels like a no-brainer. By 2026-27, that one painful year of the buyout, the salary cap should be north of $97 million.

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I wonder if  
JonC : 6/18/2024 3:36 pm : link
Drury has created any path forward to rid himself of one big contract, and a plan to rework the team into one better built for the late playoff rounds.
This doesn't bode well:all of Drury's first year acquisitions are gone  
Anakim : 6/18/2024 4:12 pm : link
Guy did everything asked of him  
Gman11 : 6/18/2024 6:58 pm : link
killed penalties, good on face offs, stuck up for his teammates. He's the type of player most teams need during the playoffs, but I understand paying over $3.5 million for a 4th line center is a bit much.
Mollie Walker  
Servo 2.0 : 6/18/2024 8:53 pm : link
Is reporting that there is “belief” of an arrangement for the Sharks to claim Goodrow off waivers. We’ll see soon enough.
RE: Mollie Walker  
Anakim : 6/18/2024 9:04 pm : link
In comment 16539256 Servo 2.0 said:
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Is reporting that there is “belief” of an arrangement for the Sharks to claim Goodrow off waivers. We’ll see soon enough.


Sucks we won't be able to get anything of value for Goodrow, but at least his contract would be off the books.
RE: Mollie Walker  
pjcas18 : 6/18/2024 9:10 pm : link
In comment 16539256 Servo 2.0 said:
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Is reporting that there is “belief” of an arrangement for the Sharks to claim Goodrow off waivers. We’ll see soon enough.


I wouldn't do it, but I can see it. SJS may struggle to get to the cap floor next year. Getting a versatile veteran is not bad even at an inflated salary - for them.

They need to find some way to spend $10M and don't have any obvious places that make sense and that's with $5.6M in retained salaries from Karlsson, Burns and Hertl.
RE: RE: Mollie Walker  
Anakim : 6/18/2024 9:36 pm : link
In comment 16539291 pjcas18 said:
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Is reporting that there is “belief” of an arrangement for the Sharks to claim Goodrow off waivers. We’ll see soon enough.



I wouldn't do it, but I can see it. SJS may struggle to get to the cap floor next year. Getting a versatile veteran is not bad even at an inflated salary - for them.

They need to find some way to spend $10M and don't have any obvious places that make sense and that's with $5.6M in retained salaries from Karlsson, Burns and Hertl.


Maybe Drury knows that the Sharks will claim him. He has a close relationship with Mike Grier.
RE: This doesn't bode well:all of Drury's first year acquisitions are gone  
Victor in CT : 6/19/2024 8:12 am : link
In comment 16539122 Anakim said:
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huh? they are all older, rental types or veteran fill in players.
RE: RE: This doesn't bode well:all of Drury's first year acquisitions are gone  
Anakim : 6/19/2024 8:35 am : link
In comment 16539463 Victor in CT said:
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huh? they are all older, rental types or veteran fill in players.


So what? Drury hasn't been on the job that long and yet all his acquisitions from year one are gone. I didn't even include Blais in that list.
RE: This doesn't bode well:all of Drury's first year acquisitions are gone  
BrettNYG10 : 6/19/2024 8:43 am : link
In comment 16539122 Anakim said:
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Greg and I correctly called out now terrible this was at the time.
RE: RE: This doesn't bode well:all of Drury's first year acquisitions are gone  
Anakim : 6/19/2024 8:54 am : link
In comment 16539475 BrettNYG10 said:
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Greg and I correctly called out now terrible this was at the time.


And me! It made no sense to give a bottom-six player like Goodrow a long-term deal with a NTC
I meant more the entire early Drury run.  
BrettNYG10 : 6/19/2024 9:43 am : link
Buch trade, Nemeth, Goodrow signing. Yuck.
Claimed  
Professor Falken : 6/19/2024 2:04 pm : link
by San Jose Sharks.
Great, Trouba and Zibanejad next.  
BrettNYG10 : 6/19/2024 2:13 pm : link
:)
Being claimed by the Sharks please explain cap savings  
Rick in Dallas : 6/19/2024 2:21 pm : link
Thanks guys.
I don’t see Zibanejad being moved at all imv
RE: Being claimed by the Sharks please explain cap savings  
Servo 2.0 : 6/19/2024 2:25 pm : link
In comment 16539720 Rick in Dallas said:
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Thanks guys.
I don’t see Zibanejad being moved at all imv


Clears his entire contract. $3.462M savings over the next three years. No dead money.
RE: RE: Being claimed by the Sharks please explain cap savings  
Servo 2.0 : 6/19/2024 2:26 pm : link
In comment 16539726 Servo 2.0 said:
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Thanks guys.
I don’t see Zibanejad being moved at all imv



Clears his entire contract. $3.462M savings over the next three years. No dead money.


Should have said each of the next three years.
Brett, gotta add Zib's bromance partner  
ColHowPepper : 6/19/2024 2:40 pm : link
if they're going to do this the right way (:

I missed a lot (or very little) since we went on vaca on 28 May. Can't say any of it surprised but spared me the heartache and frustration. Maybe at appropriate occasion I'll invite a reprise for a 'what ails the Rangers?' to the usual suspects. (: Leaving it at this: if they're going to run this back leaning on those two prongs as key, the result likely won't be much different than the past three years, plus ça change, etc. Drury's adds for SCP were sorely lacking and the 'core' weren't good enough. Is there much in his track record since his hire to believe Drury will do better, even with Goodrow's cap hit going away? He's already taking mulligans for what he has done.
Vive la 1994 and never mind what pj says.

Last night was my first hockey viewing since ECF Game 4--what an absolute barn burner in a game prolly most thought would not be played. 2nd and 3rd periods about as wild as any periods in recent memory. Conn Smythe for #97
Interesting comment from the Athletic  
SJGiant : 6/19/2024 7:53 pm : link
About the Goodrow waiver action. “ Goodrow has a 15-team no-trade list. It’s unclear if San Jose was on that list, but it only would have mattered if the Rangers tried to trade him. The waiver system potentially served as a workaround”.

Would the Rangers consider placing Trouba on waivers to get around his modified no trade contract where he names 15 team no trade list on July 1?

RE: Interesting comment from the Athletic  
Anakim : 6/19/2024 9:42 pm : link
In comment 16539837 SJGiant said:
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About the Goodrow waiver action. “ Goodrow has a 15-team no-trade list. It’s unclear if San Jose was on that list, but it only would have mattered if the Rangers tried to trade him. The waiver system potentially served as a workaround”.

Would the Rangers consider placing Trouba on waivers to get around his modified no trade contract where he names 15 team no trade list on July 1?


Uncle Larry said that Goodrow didn’t want to go to San Jose and is pissed on how things went down.
He has a right to be  
pjcas18 : 6/20/2024 7:23 am : link
I wouldn't be surprised if someone writes a story on the angle "free agents won't want to come to NY if they get around the NTC by waiving the player knowing a team will pick them up".

Besides NYC being a destination, players go where the money is, IMO, so I don't think there is a lot of truth to that but it won't stop someone from writing it.

nothing wrong with doing it IMO by Drury, in fact its smart, but Goodrow also has a right to be pissed.


RE: He has a right to be  
rsjem1979 : 6/20/2024 7:54 am : link
In comment 16539976 pjcas18 said:
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I wouldn't be surprised if someone writes a story on the angle "free agents won't want to come to NY if they get around the NTC by waiving the player knowing a team will pick them up".



We should be so lucky that 4th line free agent forwards start turning down ridiculous contracts here.
RE: He has a right to be  
Jon In NYC : 6/20/2024 7:54 am : link
In comment 16539976 pjcas18 said:
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I wouldn't be surprised if someone writes a story on the angle "free agents won't want to come to NY if they get around the NTC by waiving the player knowing a team will pick them up".

Besides NYC being a destination, players go where the money is, IMO, so I don't think there is a lot of truth to that but it won't stop someone from writing it.

nothing wrong with doing it IMO by Drury, in fact its smart, but Goodrow also has a right to be pissed.



Larry Brooks already quasi-penned it, but Barclay can spare me the crocodile tears. He had an abysmal regular season and is getting paid to be more than a 4th liner who kills penalties. He probably should have never been offered the contract in the first place, but he should also have the self awareness to realize the team needed to ditch him.
Of course  
pjcas18 : 6/20/2024 8:00 am : link
you're right Jon and I don't think anyone else was giving Goodrow that contract. He should send Tom Wilson a nice bottle of Scotch every Christmas as a thank you gift, but the principle is if you offer the NTC the player expects it means he won't wind up someone where doesn't want to be.

I'm not defending Goodrow, I can just understand how he probably views it.
RE: Of course  
Jon In NYC : 6/20/2024 8:16 am : link
In comment 16539984 pjcas18 said:
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you're right Jon and I don't think anyone else was giving Goodrow that contract. He should send Tom Wilson a nice bottle of Scotch every Christmas as a thank you gift, but the principle is if you offer the NTC the player expects it means he won't wind up someone where doesn't want to be.

I'm not defending Goodrow, I can just understand how he probably views it.


Yeah fair enough. And he's allowed to be bummed about going from a cup contender to one of the worst teams in the league. But I'm not sure I'll feel so bad for him and also I'm pretty confident this won't impact anyone coming to NYR.

I'm a little surprised the NHL (among other leagues) doesn't have a mechanism for pay-cuts or restructures like the NFL does.
won't be surprised if there is a grievance of some sort  
bigbluehoya : 6/20/2024 8:21 am : link
filed by the players association. I'd be annoyed if I were Goodrow, too.

Of course, I'm happy with the fact that he's off the books. It's absolutely wild that a known 4th-line player was given a NMC of any sort like that.

Salary is a funny thing. As a worker of any sort, you always want to maximize your earnings. But it's worth bearing in mind that the better you do in that negotiation, the higher your name is on the list of things to look at when it comes time for austerity / expense allocation.

Of course, sports has some additional elements that make it different (guaranteed contracts in the NHL, and the fact that the organization deciding it's time for you to go may mean geographically up-ending your family life).

So of course my real point is...

STOP THROWING AROUND NMC's LIKE THEY'RE TIC-TACS.
Who cares about the NTC  
csb : 6/20/2024 9:11 am : link
If he had trade value they would have traded him - but he didn't so he was placed on waivers. It's a business - every player knows this, including Goodrow. He's a likeable guy so it's a bummer but an absolutely necessary move for the Rangers.
Don’t feel sorry for Goodrow: It’s a business decision move  
Rick in Dallas : 6/20/2024 9:22 am : link
I’m sure Barclay didn’t feel bad about cashing those checks this year.
Honestly, I don’t have a lot of faith in Drury making the proper moves to strengthen the team.
But I hope he proves me wrong
RE: won't be surprised if there is a grievance of some sort  
rsjem1979 : 6/20/2024 9:24 am : link
In comment 16539988 bigbluehoya said:
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filed by the players association. I'd be annoyed if I were Goodrow, too.

Of course, I'm happy with the fact that he's off the books. It's absolutely wild that a known 4th-line player was given a NMC of any sort like that.

Salary is a funny thing. As a worker of any sort, you always want to maximize your earnings. But it's worth bearing in mind that the better you do in that negotiation, the higher your name is on the list of things to look at when it comes time for austerity / expense allocation.

Of course, sports has some additional elements that make it different (guaranteed contracts in the NHL, and the fact that the organization deciding it's time for you to go may mean geographically up-ending your family life).

So of course my real point is...

STOP THROWING AROUND NMC's LIKE THEY'RE TIC-TACS.


Don't know what their grievance could possibly claim, given that in order to buy a player out he has to first clear waivers.

The fact that the Sharks claimed him sucks for Goodrow, but that's the CBA his players' association approved.

And yeah, stop giving everyone NMCs.
No one  
pjcas18 : 6/20/2024 9:25 am : link
said they feel bad for Goodrow.
It seemed extremely unlikely  
bigbluehoya : 6/20/2024 9:32 am : link
that any team would willingly step into this Goodrow contract.

So, some have speculated that there may be another shoe to drop in the short or intermediate term between SJ and NYR that would essentially represent compensation for them taking Goodrow's contract off of Drury's hands.

Hopefully not the case, as I'm quite pleased with the result for now and would just as soon never hear anything more about it.

But if I put myself in the shoes of a Sharks fan, I'm thinking "what the actual fuck are we doing?", followed by "we better be getting back a significant favor of some sort from the Rangers".
I think  
pjcas18 : 6/20/2024 9:38 am : link
Anakim is on to something with the Grier/Drury connection, but also SJS needs to do some business to reach the salary floor.

Arizona had been famous for buying up or trading for retired players (like Pronger) so they get the cap benefit but don't have to pay them but those are drying up. As bad a contract as Goodrow is, he's probably a better fit on SJS with all their youth and lack of top end veteran talent.

They have some bad $$$ on their books in SJ.
another basic angle here  
bigbluehoya : 6/20/2024 9:46 am : link
is that this is similar to the Blackhawks bringing in Foligno when they drafted Bedard.

Veteran, locker room, "right way", sticks up for teammates on and off the ice, etc.
RE: another basic angle here  
pjcas18 : 6/20/2024 10:07 am : link
In comment 16540033 bigbluehoya said:
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is that this is similar to the Blackhawks bringing in Foligno when they drafted Bedard.

Veteran, locker room, "right way", sticks up for teammates on and off the ice, etc.


they (CHI) actually signed Corry Perry for that purpose and he didn't last due to off ice issues. I never got the whole story there.
STOP THROWING AROUND NMC's LIKE THEY'RE TIC-TACS.  
Victor in CT : 6/20/2024 11:19 am : link
spot on bigbluehoya
RE: RE: another basic angle here  
Greg from LI : 6/20/2024 12:28 pm : link
In comment 16540046 pjcas18 said:
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they (CHI) actually signed Corry Perry for that purpose and he didn't last due to off ice issues. I never got the whole story there.


Not buying the Bedard's mom story?
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pjcas18 : 6/20/2024 12:36 pm : link
In comment 16540104 Greg from LI said:
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they (CHI) actually signed Corry Perry for that purpose and he didn't last due to off ice issues. I never got the whole story there.



Not buying the Bedard's mom story?


100%, emphatic, no.

John Scott told the story on his podcast.

he said on a road trip in Columbus, Perry drank too much and made a pass at an NBC staff member. And due to the history in CHI they (maybe understandably) went scorched earth and treated the guy like Hannibal Lecter.

if you believe John Scott....but why not just say that? Seems MUCH better than the speculation.
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