Simms: 4th and 17th pass vs. Vikes was out of bounds

He comes down with both feet, pivots and steps out. But both feet are down before the pivot.

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there was a completion in the Super Bowl that was overturned just before the safety.

it was definitely a catch. First I think he got his right foot in bounds before he gets pushed out. But it doesn't actually matter if his right foot is in bounds. In 1986 if a receive was pushed out of bounds who otherwise would have been in bounds it was still a catch. That is the case here.

But he probably was tongue in cheek with the "nowadays" routine. Johnson was clearly in bounds. That same night Eli basically went into a whole comedy skit when talking about the helmet catch for those that missed it.
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Looks like he’s in by at least a foot.

Johnson was clearly in.

I love those Giants helmets of that era.

in the Super Bowl probably gets overturned on review according to today's rules.

Both feet were down with the ball before being pushed out.

Brooklyn, going to the playground with kids #1 (who was 4) and #2 (who was 2, and in a stroller). Mrs S was working that day and even though the Giants were on, I had to get the kids out of the house for some exercise before it got dark. So I brought along the transistor radio. Remember those?

I couldn't believe the Giants made a 4th and 17!

The start of the magical run to the SB

In comment 16541215 Stu11 said:

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But he probably was tongue in cheek with the "nowadays" routine. Johnson was clearly in bounds. That same night Eli basically went into a whole comedy skit when talking about the helmet catch for those that missed it. Link - ( New Window )

I would agree that Simms is busting on today's rules about "what is a catch?".

Under today's interpretation I suppose there could be a slight chance that there could be an issue with Johnson's right foot.

Did he have possession before picking it up again?

But the current rules have certainly gotten better than the Calvin Johnson days. *grin*

His show on Giants.com is also very good.

that play a hundred times. I never once thought there was any sort of issue.

On the other hand, that Hostetler TD to Baker in the comeback against the Cardinals is another matter.

That one looks cut & dried to me--not even a gray area suggesting that he might have been anything but in bounds with both feet down.

that was the first season it was used.
Nobody questioned the catch at the time and it was never reviewed.

However, the Giants did get away with on in the Super Bowl against Denver. Late in the 2nd quarter Elway threw a pass to Key who dove and made a great catch under his body that was ruled incomplete.
During halftime they showed a reverse angle replay that clearly displayed Kay making a clean catch that would've given Denver a first down. The next play on third and long Martin sacked Elway in the end zone for a safety.
That was a huge break for the Giants who could've been down much more than 10-9 at the half.

about this -- that was a good play

To get his eyes checked.