Clifford looking more and more like a higher end Duda and Acuna looks like something Andres Gimenez-ish. He's probably a better athlete but probably not quite as good instincts. Should be a useful player this year for big club though even if it's a smaller role at some point (pinch runner, defense).
I posted this on the end of the June Minors thread. I think it might be worth re-posting as we start July.
Acuna played CF, went 1 for 3 and his hard-hit single drove in the tying run in the top of the 8th.
Baty, batting 2nd, went 0 for 3 with a K, against the same BUF pitcher (Sanchez) the Mets roughed up last Tuesday, this time he held the Mets to 1 hit over 7 innings.
Baty played 2B and his error in the bottom of the 8th opened the flood gates for a 5 run uprising to clinch the loss.
Why is Baty playing 2B ? He should be in a corner OF spot.
I posted this on the end of the June Minors thread. I think it might be worth re-posting as we start July.
Acuna played CF, went 1 for 3 and his hard-hit single drove in the tying run in the top of the 8th.
Baty, batting 2nd, went 0 for 3 with a K, against the same BUF pitcher (Sanchez) the Mets roughed up last Tuesday, this time he held the Mets to 1 hit over 7 innings.
Baty played 2B and his error in the bottom of the 8th opened the flood gates for a 5 run uprising to clinch the loss.
Why is Baty playing 2B ? He should be in a corner OF spot.
Baty belongs at 3B and in LF. Left field would be a nice alternative spot for him when he's not playing 3B.
I posted this on the end of the June Minors thread. I think it might be worth re-posting as we start July.
Acuna played CF, went 1 for 3 and his hard-hit single drove in the tying run in the top of the 8th.
Baty, batting 2nd, went 0 for 3 with a K, against the same BUF pitcher (Sanchez) the Mets roughed up last Tuesday, this time he held the Mets to 1 hit over 7 innings.
Baty played 2B and his error in the bottom of the 8th opened the flood gates for a 5 run uprising to clinch the loss.
Why is Baty playing 2B ? He should be in a corner OF spot.
Baty belongs at 3B and in LF. Left field would be a nice alternative spot for him when he's not playing 3B.
A healthy Starling Marte ain't walking thru that door any time soon. Baty's path back to the Bigs is in the OF, he's now blocked in the infield by 3 or 4 good players.
I posted this on the end of the June Minors thread. I think it might be worth re-posting as we start July.
Acuna played CF, went 1 for 3 and his hard-hit single drove in the tying run in the top of the 8th.
Baty, batting 2nd, went 0 for 3 with a K, against the same BUF pitcher (Sanchez) the Mets roughed up last Tuesday, this time he held the Mets to 1 hit over 7 innings.
Baty played 2B and his error in the bottom of the 8th opened the flood gates for a 5 run uprising to clinch the loss.
Why is Baty playing 2B ? He should be in a corner OF spot.
Baty belongs at 3B and in LF. Left field would be a nice alternative spot for him when he's not playing 3B.
A healthy Starling Marte ain't walking thru that door any time soon. Baty's path back to the Bigs is in the OF, he's now blocked in the infield by 3 or 4 good players.
Anthony DiComo
@AnthonyDiComo
Mike Vasil has leapfrogged Christian Scott in the Triple-A Syracuse rotation, starting tonight in what would normally be Scott's spot. Seems like a pretty good indication that we'll see Scott this week.
The Mets have a TBA in their rotation on Wednesday.
Anthony DiComo
@AnthonyDiComo
Mike Vasil has leapfrogged Christian Scott in the Triple-A Syracuse rotation, starting tonight in what would normally be Scott's spot. Seems like a pretty good indication that we'll see Scott this week.
The Mets have a TBA in their rotation on Wednesday.
Great! I thought at first Quintana would pitch on Wednesday, but the Mets haven't announced their starting pitchers for both Wednesday and Thursday. Quintana's gonna pitch one of those days. Now it makes sense to have Quintana pitch on Thursday (July 4th) at the odd 11 am start time that day instead of the rookie. Make things as comfy as possible for C. Scott on Wednesday and then send him down again for bullpen help after the game so the Mets can manage the last two games of the Diaz suspension before Mr. Sticky Fingahz makes his return on Saturday.
Abbey Mastracco
@AbbeyMastracco
Brandon Nimmo slipped and fell last night at the team hotel in DC and cut his forehead. He spent the morning at the hospital but tests were negative for a concussion.
Christian Scott will take Tylor Megill’s spot in the Mets rotation.
Mike Puma
@NYPost_Mets
It will be Christian Scott for Wednesday’s start. Mets officials are discussing the possibility of Jose Butto for the bullpen - in a multi-inning role so he can stay somewhat stretched out if needed for starting duty.
whoa didnt realize we were up to rehab starts. almost seems like 2nd half was always the plan.
Still is. Second half starts 7/19, he's not going to be back before then, he's probably going to take the full 30 days. No chance he's back before the second half.
Stuart's era last season caused some people to overrate him (presumably also his size, despite the fact he's not a hard thrower) BUT his era this season is also misleading. He has a 4.72 era with a 3.56 FIP, 9.74 K/9, .362 BABIP, by E-F (split between era and FIP) 4 pitchers have more unlucky in the EL out of 33 qualified SPer. 3rd highest BABIP. He may not even be a starter on a good team but a Trevor Williams-type swing man still seems like a very realistic outcome. Vasil has superior pure stuff but Stuart probably has a better idea of what he's doing out there.
whoa didnt realize we were up to rehab starts. almost seems like 2nd half was always the plan.
Still is. Second half starts 7/19, he's not going to be back before then, he's probably going to take the full 30 days. No chance he's back before the second half.
didnt mean to imply otherwise.
i think through all the rehab starts/stops it appears that was always the target both sides were comfortable with. minimum amount of pitching this year to get him to next year with a chance to hit that innings number.
Mike Puma
@NYPost_Mets
It will be Christian Scott for Wednesday’s start. Mets officials are discussing the possibility of Jose Butto for the bullpen - in a multi-inning role so he can stay somewhat stretched out if needed for starting duty.
With Met starters (Petersen, Quintana) routinely going 4 or 5 innings, Houser and Butto seem a better option than stitching together 4 or 5 innings and totally blowing your bullpen for the next day.
I wonder if starters or relievers have pitched more innings for the Mets this year....likely starters, but I bet it's close
Have I mentioned recently that Tom Seaver had 231 career complete games; 19 in one season?
i think all teams have played more games than the mets have, but over the same number of aggregate days/days off the mets RP workloads aren't an overall outlier.
someone like Reed Garrett is because they've had no depth at the back end of the BP with Raley injured, Otto sucking, lopez DFA'd, Diaz inj/sucking/suspended.
Alvarez and Vientos are now hitting just over .300 with good power.
Stuart's era last season caused some people to overrate him (presumably also his size, despite the fact he's not a hard thrower) BUT his era this season is also misleading. He has a 4.72 era with a 3.56 FIP, 9.74 K/9, .362 BABIP, by E-F (split between era and FIP) 4 pitchers have more unlucky in the EL out of 33 qualified SPer. 3rd highest BABIP. He may not even be a starter on a good team but a Trevor Williams-type swing man still seems like a very realistic outcome. Vasil has superior pure stuff but Stuart probably has a better idea of what he's doing out there.
I listened in to the start of the SYR game on the Internet Radio last night to get an idea how Mike Vasil is progressing.
Vasil went 6 innings with 3K's and 1 walk. He had trouble in the 3rd inning with the bottom of Worcester Red Sox order.
He got two strikes on 2 batters.....but he hit the first guy in the jaw with a pitch and that might have affected Vasil because he walked the next batter on a 3-2 count. He gave up a couple hard-hit balls to the top of the order, and found himself on the short end of a 3 to 1 score.
His teammates tied the score in the 5th to take him off the hook. But I was a little concerned with the way he couldn't put away the bottom of the order after getting 2 strikes on the batters.
Hitters are more selective at AAA, they don't chase borderline pitches. All part of the learning curve, I guess.
Awesome! The way he's going, he'll be a part of the starting rotation in Flushing by 2026 (at the latest).
Barring injury, he should be an option for the Mets rotation early 2025.
We've got good times coming. This organization has a tradition of producing fine starting pitching. I loved what I saw from Scott and am super excited to see Sproat. I ws reading the article from MMO below about him:
7/2/2018 The Mets sign 16-year-old catcher Francisco Álvarez. Álvarez receives a $2.7 million signing bonus, the largest payout given to an international prospect in team history.
7/2/2018 The Mets sign 16-year-old catcher Francisco Álvarez. Álvarez receives a $2.7 million signing bonus, the largest payout given to an international prospect in team history.
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Mets named on Badler’s 30 DSL players who are impressing . As I’ve said, I’ve heard the Mets are expected to make major changes to the IFA setup. Just hasn’t been great shakes overall recently.
Don't bother looking up Dom Hamel's pitching line. Last night he went 4.2 innings and gave up 7 ER and 3 homers.
Oh those base-on-balls.....still a problem for Dom.
Don't bother looking up Dom Hamel's pitching line. Last night he went 4.2 innings and gave up 7 ER and 3 homers.
Oh those base-on-balls.....still a problem for Dom.
I was going to mention it. I really think it's time to pull the plug and start giving him time in the pen where his stuff could play up better in shorter stints. He's already 25.
Don't bother looking up Dom Hamel's pitching line. Last night he went 4.2 innings and gave up 7 ER and 3 homers.
Oh those base-on-balls.....still a problem for Dom.
I was going to mention it. I really think it's time to pull the plug and start giving him time in the pen where his stuff could play up better in shorter stints. He's already 25.
just doesn't look like a viable MLB SPer and while plenty of SPers make successful transitions to the pen, he's figures to be a little bumpier given his command problems. They should make that move now. He's rule 5 eligible and it probably makes sense to see if he's potentially worth adding .
Both Dom Hamel and Mike Vasil have struggled in 2024. Both are rule 5 eligible and are the *type* of arms other teams may consider taking a shot on. It would probably behoove @mets
to see if either one of them is a viable option out of the bullpen (in Syracuse)
JJ Cooper
@jjcoop36
There are 19 Hall of Famers who were prospect-eligible in the BA Top 100 era (1990-2024). Of those, 17 were Top 100 Prospects. We didn't get the two relievers (Hoffman and Rivera).
Christian Scott, RHP, Mets (Up 29 Spots): Scott’s MLB debut has been everything that could have been expected or hoped, even if the Mets have briefly sent him back to Triple-A. Scott projects more as a durable mid-to-back of the rotation starter than an ace, but there’s plenty of value to that, especially for a pitcher who is ready to handle that role.
Christian Scott, RHP, Mets (Up 29 Spots): Scott’s MLB debut has been everything that could have been expected or hoped, even if the Mets have briefly sent him back to Triple-A. Scott projects more as a durable mid-to-back of the rotation starter than an ace, but there’s plenty of value to that, especially for a pitcher who is ready to handle that role.
I think Scott can be a top of the rotation type of SP.
Both Dom Hamel and Mike Vasil have struggled in 2024. Both are rule 5 eligible and are the *type* of arms other teams may consider taking a shot on. It would probably behoove @mets
to see if either one of them is a viable option out of the bullpen (in Syracuse)
As far as Hamel goes (and Vasil for that matter) I think they need a 'put-away' pitch. Far too often they get 2 strikes on a batter.....and give then give up a hit or a walk. They could use the services of a good pitching coach.
September call up for some quality time with Hefner would help.
when the Mets got Clifford last year here were his numbers in A+ in the south atlantic league (same league as brooklyn, not as bad of a park factor) in 250 plate appearances:
his ISO and OBP are almost identical in both so overall it looks a lot he's the same overall effectiveness, just adjusted to a stronger league a year later.
the good = XBH% and walk rate both up against better comp
the not great = fewer singles, more K's
could be bad luck (low babip) or could be a swing more boom or bust. also likely some impact from taking so many walks and presumably not swinging a lot more often. the exta power and walks are fine, but they push his profile a little more in the duda direction. id actually prefer fewer walks but better contact numbers. id like to see him hit .250+ over the 2nd half of the year in AA even if power/walks come down slightly.
when the Mets got Clifford last year here were his numbers in A+ in the south atlantic league (same league as brooklyn, not as bad of a park factor) in 250 plate appearances:
his ISO and OBP are almost identical in both so overall it looks a lot he's the same overall effectiveness, just adjusted to a stronger league a year later.
the good = XBH% and walk rate both up against better comp
the not great = fewer singles, more K's
could be bad luck (low babip) or could be a swing more boom or bust. also likely some impact from taking so many walks and presumably not swinging a lot more often. the exta power and walks are fine, but they push his profile a little more in the duda direction. id actually prefer fewer walks but better contact numbers. id like to see him hit .250+ over the 2nd half of the year in AA even if power/walks come down slightly.
In a race to see how many top prospects can be placed on the IL at once...
@mets
add another. Brooklyn Cyclones placed SS Jesus Baez on the 7-day injured list.
with an ops above some number (800?). it may have been rc. either way as disappointing as his numbers were in brooklyn the last 2 years, his leap in Bing is i think significantly more impressive if he can keep it up. especially if he can keep improving the contact.
RE: i think i saw someone say hes just 1 of like 3 players under 21 in AA
with an ops above some number (800?). it may have been rc. either way as disappointing as his numbers were in brooklyn the last 2 years, his leap in Bing is i think significantly more impressive if he can keep it up. especially if he can keep improving the contact.
That's correct. I don't think people realized his age and how young he was for the league. His wRC+ before tonight's game is already away above average.
Former @mets minor leaguer LHP Matt Gage Extremely small sample size but 50% GB% over 6.2 innings this season, 51.6% in 2022 (13 innings). Lefties against him (.105/.320/.105). Astros connection. @mets should be interested #Mets
From Sammons notes Stearns lack of draft success in Milwaukee, Gross’s strength in the draft with Houston and the fact the Mets may go with higher upside/riskier picks this year.
From Sammons notes Stearns lack of draft success in Milwaukee, Gross’s strength in the draft with Houston and the fact the Mets may go with higher upside/riskier picks this year.
Interesting! I wonder if they're eyeing up someone like Brody Brecht then. Huge FB/SL combo.
RHP Jack Wenninger has been promoted to @BKCyclones. Wenninger posted a 4.02 FIP, 11.18 K/9 (2nd best in the organization-full season) with @stluciemets. Wenninger (while not a hard thrower) has one of the better changeups in the organization #Mets
went from 2006 until 2021 (25 1st round picks) until they had a player drafted by them that played 1 single full season for the club. It's pretty well established the Brewers weren't built via a great ability to draft. Their current lineup of their top 6 in fWAR, 1 came via the draft (Turang). Pitching side only Robert Gasser. Makes their success that much more impressive tbh.
had multiple people in their FO with a strong scouting background but Bregman, Pena, Myers, Loperfido, McCormick (having an awful year but first 3 seasons 6.6 fWAR), Dubin, Brown, Arrighetti (3/5 of their rotation) came via draft (in fact all 5 of their current SPers (aka not on the IL) are homegrown) and they have home grown SPers Luis Garcia, Christian Javier, Jose Urquidy, Lance McCullers Jr and Jake Bloss all on the IL (all but Bloss have had legitimate MLB success in the past).
went from 2006 until 2021 (25 1st round picks) until they had a player drafted by them that played 1 single full season for the club. It's pretty well established the Brewers weren't built via a great ability to draft. Their current lineup of their top 6 in fWAR, 1 came via the draft (Turang). Pitching side only Robert Gasser. Makes their success that much more impressive tbh.
this got me curious about brewers FO, their scouting director since 2016 has been a guy named Tod Johnson who was at the time internally promoted scouting director. he is still currently their VP of domestic scouting so i guess they are happy enough with him. other than what looks like a really bad 2017 his first 5 years first round picks were ok - Hiura (17), Lutz (17sup), Turang (18), Small (19), Mitchell (20), Black (20 sup), Frelick (21). 2 are regulars, 3 on active roster, seems like black is close and a consensus top 100.
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MILWAUKEE -- The Brewers have promoted Tod Johnson, who worked for Microsoft and Hewlett-Packard before his career in baseball, to amateur scouting director in a move that further cements the club's commitment to analytics.
Johnson, 43, takes over administration of the Draft from Ray Montgomery, who will have broader responsibilities as vice president of scouting. Pro scouting director Zack Minasian is moving into an advisory role within the department.
"I think it's a re-evaluation on the whole of our scouting group, and trying our best to put our skill sets in the right spots," said general manager David Stearns, who inherited all three men from the Brewers' previous front-office regime. "A year into this, I've had the opportunity to learn a lot about our staff. I'm frankly very pleased with what I've seen."
That is reflected, Stearns said, by the fact Johnson emerged from a field of seven internal and external candidates for the amateur scouting director vacancy. Johnson is in his ninth season in Milwaukee's front office, the past six as assistant amateur scouting director. His media guide bio says part of Johnson's job was working with the baseball research and development department to set the direction for the usage of data and technology in baseball operations -- in other words, using objective metrics to evaluate amateur players in addition to the traditional scouting methods.
Johnson worked in Silicon Valley for a dozen years before joining the Brewers as an "application developer" in 2007, and he went to scout school in '08, according to a Baseball America story from '12. Johnson left the Brewers in '10 to serve as baseball systems architect for the Padres, then returned the following season as assistant amateur scouting director.
"When you go through a process like this and one of the in-house people proves to be the best fit, I think it's a good moment for the organization as a whole," Stearns said.
mets picks in those years were Peterson, Kelenic, Baty, PCA, 2021 was rocker which led to jett/parada.
turang is probably currently the best player out of that group and frelick looks probably as likely as pca/baty/kelenic to work out.
those werent exceptionally good years by the mets but i dont think they were exceptionally bad either. we know the guys who ran the mets drafts in those years had a very good track record on that decade. i think both groups are currently probably somewhere in a league average range in terms of productivity though it's still early enough someone could break out and change things (i.e. if baty ends up the next bohm in a couple years, that will change things a lot).
Brewers are tied for 3rd fewest major leaguers drafted on OD rosters this season (14). The Dodgers led the league with 29 (for comparisons sake), the average team had 19.4. Will Sammon obviously isn't speaking out of his ass when he said
"The Brewers have had some recent success stories from the draft and there’s plenty of time in some other cases for development, but generally speaking, the draft was not one of Stearns’ biggest strengths during his successful tenure with the club."
Remember, Sammon actually covered the Brewers 2018-2021.
Here he is talking about Stearns when he took the job covering the Mets, praising how much he learned from Stearns.
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For the past three seasons, I covered the Milwaukee Brewers for The Athletic. For professional and personal reasons, I loved Milwaukee. I met my girlfriend, Daniela, in Milwaukee; of course, she was a Brewers fan on vacation from the Northeast and we met near the large glove and the replica racing sausages. It’s where I lived during some of the most historic moments of our country’s recent history. After five years covering college football, the Brewers were my first baseball beat. The players, the fans, the media and those who worked in the organization often made my gig feel exactly what I figured it’d be in February 2020: a dream job. Every day, I had the opportunity to learn more about the game I grew up loving. And no one taught me more than Craig Counsell and David Stearns, two of the smarter minds in baseball. In switching beats at The Athletic to the Mets, I get to take my experiences covering an MLB team and apply them to the largest media market, join the talented Tim Britton and cover one of baseball’s most exciting teams. I also get to come home.
don't think anybody holds the Mets up as an example of being outstanding at player development. There is a reason as to why they have had 4 different people running the player development side in the last 5 seasons. Keith Law used to parrot how well the Mets drafted in years past but it doesn't hold up to scrutiny, the Mets over the past decade were 29th in fWAR via the draft, 30th... the Brewers. The Mets also were tied for 29th in players drafted on OD rosters (11), only the Nationals were worse.
Sammon piece suggests that Kris Gross will be running this draft (Tanous isn't even mentioned in the piece), which also insinuates they haven't been particularly enamored with their recent drafts.
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Stearns worked with VP of amateur scouting Kris Gross in Houston from 2013 to 2015. Gross spent 11 seasons in the Astros organization and oversaw its past five amateur drafts. Houston did not have a first or second-round pick in two of them, part of its punishment for electronically stealing signs at Minute Maid Park in 2017 and 2018.
Gross joined the team’s scouting staff in 2012. The Astros have since drafted and signed a major-league-high 64 players who appeared in the big leagues either with Houston or another club.
Several in the industry believe the Mets might do a blend of what Houston and Milwaukee have valued in recent years. Mostly, that means explosive athletes with big tools and pitchers with electric raw stuff.
I would not be surprised if Tanous is let go following this season given what I've also been hearing on the IFA side ("major changes coming")
DSL Blue- Vladi Gomez 2-3, 2 2b, Terrero 3-3, 2b (Alberto Castillo's son), Vladi Guerrero 1-3, 2 k's (5/43 with 19 k's ). Acosta 1-2, BB, Guevara 6 innings 2 hits 0 runs 1 walk 5 k's (would not shock me to see him promoted to the GCL team) to finish up his season #Mets
ranks J-Rod the #23 hitter in the complex leagues. The only Met in the top 25. Joseph Yabbour #9among pitchers, Jesus Baez was the #13 hitter in Low-A, Jonah Tong #2 low-A pitcher, Tong #10 high-A pitcher, Nolan McLean #21, Ryan Clifford #15 AA hitter, McLean #10 AA pitcher, Sproat #23, Scott #2 AAA pitcher
ranks J-Rod the #23 hitter in the complex leagues. The only Met in the top 25. Joseph Yabbour #9among pitchers, Jesus Baez was the #13 hitter in Low-A, Jonah Tong #2 low-A pitcher, Tong #10 high-A pitcher, Nolan McLean #21, Ryan Clifford #15 AA hitter, McLean #10 AA pitcher, Sproat #23, Scott #2 AAA pitcher
Sproat #23 AA SP? Loses a lot of credibility there.
ranks J-Rod the #23 hitter in the complex leagues. The only Met in the top 25. Joseph Yabbour #9among pitchers, Jesus Baez was the #13 hitter in Low-A, Jonah Tong #2 low-A pitcher, Tong #10 high-A pitcher, Nolan McLean #21, Ryan Clifford #15 AA hitter, McLean #10 AA pitcher, Sproat #23, Scott #2 AAA pitcher
Sproat #23 AA SP? Loses a lot of credibility there.
It's by the numbers.
"As a reminder, the RoboScore is the value (0 to 100) assigned per level by RoboScout based on 2024 statistical performance and projecting fantasy value (without considering defensive position or ability). The RoboCast number is the RoboScore but with statcast blended in and then transformed to the 0 to 100 scale."
Sproat 78 roboscore, 76 robocast.
I actually missed Jarvis who came in at 22
"Another pitcher who has eschewed walks in the summer, is Justin Jarvis (Mets) who has only allowed 3% of batters over his last 31 innings to reach base by way of a base on balls. With a 30% strikeout rate over that span, it seems that hitters have had trouble with his fastball/cutter mix – which, together, make up over 83% of the pitches he’s thrown. It’s a starter’s mix and he has shown good pitchability – but it might not be enough to get him much further than the back of a rotation."
interesting because the prospect writers also don't seem as high on Sproat as one would think (BA ranked him the #86 prospect in baseball last week) which is obviously good but their grades suggest his stuff is more good than great
interesting because the prospect writers also don't seem as high on Sproat as one would think (BA ranked him the #86 prospect in baseball last week) which is obviously good but their grades suggest his stuff is more good than great
numbers so far in AA are good but not eye popping. 3.66 FIP, 9.68 K/9, .222 BABIP, 92.3% LOB. I like Sproat a lot but I'm not so sure he really has higher upside than Christian Scott just because he throws harder. I'd probably take Tong over any other pitcher in the system if we are talking about highest ceiling, best chance to be a TOR type (not that I'd bet on that outcome with him either).
Brewers are tied for 3rd fewest major leaguers drafted on OD rosters this season (14). The Dodgers led the league with 29 (for comparisons sake), the average team had 19.4. Will Sammon obviously isn't speaking out of his ass when he said
"The Brewers have had some recent success stories from the draft and there’s plenty of time in some other cases for development, but generally speaking, the draft was not one of Stearns’ biggest strengths during his successful tenure with the club."
Remember, Sammon actually covered the Brewers 2018-2021.
Here he is talking about Stearns when he took the job covering the Mets, praising how much he learned from Stearns.
Quote:
For the past three seasons, I covered the Milwaukee Brewers for The Athletic. For professional and personal reasons, I loved Milwaukee. I met my girlfriend, Daniela, in Milwaukee; of course, she was a Brewers fan on vacation from the Northeast and we met near the large glove and the replica racing sausages. It’s where I lived during some of the most historic moments of our country’s recent history. After five years covering college football, the Brewers were my first baseball beat. The players, the fans, the media and those who worked in the organization often made my gig feel exactly what I figured it’d be in February 2020: a dream job. Every day, I had the opportunity to learn more about the game I grew up loving. And no one taught me more than Craig Counsell and David Stearns, two of the smarter minds in baseball. In switching beats at The Athletic to the Mets, I get to take my experiences covering an MLB team and apply them to the largest media market, join the talented Tim Britton and cover one of baseball’s most exciting teams. I also get to come home.
i dont think stearns would disagree with any of that, thats presumably why he interviewed 7 different people and promoted someone new to run their drafts in his first year in MIL. it appears to me that their hit rate since that change relative to the mets isn't so bad, though it's still early.
obviously tramuta has already moved on and there have been endless changes to the mets FO from 2019-2024, but as of 2019 when BA wrote this article they'd drafted/developed the 5th most war of any other org in the 2010's decade. it's still early even for 2020 picks like PCA so as we know it takes a while to put together any sort of comprehensive analysis of drafts. these 2010-2019 ranks are likely very different today than 5 years ago and will continue to change 5 years into the future as players like nimmo, lugo, alonso, vientos, baty, peterson, etc evolved/continue to evolve over their careers.
I think the more relevant stat would be 29th in the league in players on OD rosters don't you? 2010 was 14 years ago. All of those players you mentioned are accounted for and yet 28 other teams had more players drafted on OD rosters.
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Counting players who are active on MLB Opening Day rosters is admittedly a crude measure of draft success. This count equates the 13th pitcher on a staff with an MLB ace. But it’s still a nice snapshot of what teams are able to find and sign big leaguers out of the draft and which ones aren’t.
There are 583 draftees on Opening Day active rosters (74.8% of the total number of players on rosters), so the average team will produce 19.4 big leaguers. Any club with more than that is above average. Anyone below that is below average.
The Mets had 11, the Brewers 14 (tied with Oakland)
Dodgers 29, Padres 28, Cardinals 27, Astros 26... notice there sure seems to be a correlation with successful franchises
went from 2006 until 2021 (25 1st round picks) until they had a player drafted by them that played 1 single full season for the club. It's pretty well established the Brewers weren't built via a great ability to draft. Their current lineup of their top 6 in fWAR, 1 came via the draft (Turang). Pitching side only Robert Gasser. Makes their success that much more impressive tbh.
I flubbed that one. Robert Gasser was of course a major part of the Hader trade. The Brewers actually don't have a single pitcher on their roster that has posted positive fWAR that they drafted. It's actually remarkable how good they are at what they do despite the weak drafts. Quietly excellent IFA program and their FO is quietly one of the most advanced in all of baseball. Easier said than done when every team now employs X analysts.
i think players on rosters is a relevant stat but way longer term
2016/2017 when stearns took over MIL sounds like a long time ago (bc it kind of is), think about how many of the current active players drafted by mets were drafted before that?
nimmo, mcneil, lugo, conforto types sure but it goes back even farther.
matz and mitch hanniger from 2009 are on that list and at that point stearns was closer to being omar's intern than milwaukee gm.
stearns may have found the right guy to run those mil drafts in 2017 and started fixing the problem or maybe they didn't, im just pointing out that i think its hard to judge because of how much time goes into some of these draft metrics. tbh i think that's why i have a hard time focusing the draft too deeply in general. hit rates are so low the entire event is just unfathomably hard to predict.
im sure ill get excited about whoever the mets pick this year but realistically it's just a fill in the blanks for what will probably end up 2-3 names of a struggling young players most will be complaining about in 5-6 years like baty right now. in the half decade since his draft i cant tell you if he's dom smith or alec bohm. neither outcome would surprise me much (and most likely he'll end up somewhere in between).
part of each prospect is where they would rank in his top 50 right now, he only has 1 prospect (condon) ranked 1 spot ahead of christian scott (who is #18) and 1 other (bazzana) ranked 2 slots ahead of jett (#24). all are in the 55 grade tier presently but his top 2 from draft have future 60 grades.
kind of amzing jett is still younger than both too. missing this year sucks but it may not end up the worst thing to delay his MLB service time by 1 year staggered a little more from lindor/acuna/mauricio. crazy how good that pick looks relative to how bad parada looks. Final 2024 MLB draft rankings: Top 250 prospects - ( New Window )
From Sammons notes Stearns lack of draft success in Milwaukee, Gross’s strength in the draft with Houston and the fact the Mets may go with higher upside/riskier picks this year.
Interesting! I wonder if they're eyeing up someone like Brody Brecht then. Huge FB/SL combo.
Other than being a pitcher with the inherent injury risk, is Brecht really seen as a riskier pitch? IMO, he looks like a very safe pick for a pitcher at that point in the draft.
From Sammons notes Stearns lack of draft success in Milwaukee, Gross’s strength in the draft with Houston and the fact the Mets may go with higher upside/riskier picks this year.
Interesting! I wonder if they're eyeing up someone like Brody Brecht then. Huge FB/SL combo.
Other than being a pitcher with the inherent injury risk, is Brecht really seen as a riskier pitch? IMO, he looks like a very safe pick for a pitcher at that point in the draft.
I was going with the higher upside not the risk part. Since he was splitting time some think he's no where near his ceiling.
Every time I mention how bad Stewart has been he does something good so... last 28 days .133/.278/.233. He's 0 for his last 12. Unbelievably long leash (40 starts), with a minor league option left for a team in the mix for the playoffs
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The Mets have acquired Phil Maton from the Rays for cash or a player to be named later. They have designated Joey Lucchesi for assignment.
Was lucceschi struggling? Would have thought they could have used him in pen at some point. What a disaster that trade turned out to be.
my guess is he asked for his release or they just did him a kindness bc they felt vasil/butto/etc have passed him. he's always seemed to have a bit of an odd ball personality, obviously they were ready to move on.
Senga had a good night tonight playing against the Scranton Yankees.
Kodai went 2.2 innings, threw 52 pitches/30 for strikes. He finished up with 3 K's and 2 BB. Radio guy was reading the ballpark radar gun at 93-95. The Ghost-fork was really working.
I think Senga ran out of gas in the third inning....he walked the last 2 batters he faced after getting 2 strikes on them.
Tyler Stuart continues to put up a very strong season, misleading era continues to drop. Came into tonight with a 3.26 FIP and threw 6 strong innings tonight allowing 1 run, striking out 5, walking none #Mets
Really sure what the Jett Williams comp is though? High school pick? Lindsay was a sculpted big dude (6’0” 210) and had solid speed but didn’t steal bases. Probably should have been a red flag he was playing 1B in HS despite his athleticism
“ Luisangel Acuña is now 3-for-25 to start July. His Triple-A wRC+ is 74.
I get Mets fans are looking for options to upgrade on McNeil/Stewart/etc, and Acuña is one of the Mets only upper level prospects healthy, but he hasn't shown anything to suggest he's close to MLB-ready.”
“ Luisangel Acuña is now 3-for-25 to start July. His Triple-A wRC+ is 74.
I get Mets fans are looking for options to upgrade on McNeil/Stewart/etc, and Acuña is one of the Mets only upper level prospects healthy, but he hasn't shown anything to suggest he's close to MLB-ready.”
I was on IG Mets yesterday, and there is just such a misconception out there that Acuna is ready to come up. So many uninformed fans demanding Stearns makes the call to bring him up. Its obnoxious.
The Pirates and Angels are in talks on a trade that would send outfielder Taylor Ward from Anaheim to Pittsburgh, reports Paul Zeise of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and 93.7 FM The Fan. While a deal isn’t yet complete, Zeise adds that Pittsburgh is actively trying to get the deal across the finish line.
not looking to rile up Eric but decent exit velocities only mean so much. Acuna is a speed/defense player who hopefully can hit enough to be a viable regular. 12 players in the IL have been worse than him in 2024 (wRC+) out of 116 players, his ISO is 102/116, his BB% is 105/116, OBP 98/116 and then there's the 3 for his last 25.
There is absolutely nothing in his numbers that suggests he's ready to help a big league team offensively and it's questionable development-wise if it makes sense to have him play sporadically as a bench piece right now. Logic would suggest a 7.0% BB rate in AAA is going to look pretty ugly right now with the big club. Somebody like Ritter or Brosseau likely should be the next man up for now.
I just saw he went viral, I think he's actually 6'8"! (video below) admittedly, I had never heard of him previously but have to like those bloodlines Link - ( New Window )
He turned 21 in June, sitting 92-95 and touching 97 with ELITE FB shape. He's not a top 100 prospect (yet). Who is overrating him exactly? He throws just as hard as Christian Scott, in fact Sproat is probably the only SP in the system that throws significantly harder than Tong, who is 2+ years younger than most "higher ranked" arms in the system.
take Tong over Tidwell and upside wise, probably #1 arm in the system. Odds are against him hitting his absolute ceiling (because how many players actually do?) but he'd be an easy first round pick right now if he were draft eligible and given his relative lack of pitching experience... a LOT to like.
Every time I mention how bad Stewart has been he does something good so... last 28 days .133/.278/.233. He's 0 for his last 12. Unbelievably long leash (40 starts), with a minor league option left for a team in the mix for the playoffs
If he’s on the roster, he’s going to have to play every once in a while, but I hope we NEVER have to see him in the middle of the lineup again.
Every time I mention how bad Stewart has been he does something good so... last 28 days .133/.278/.233. He's 0 for his last 12. Unbelievably long leash (40 starts), with a minor league option left for a team in the mix for the playoffs
If he’s on the roster, he’s going to have to play every once in a while, but I hope we NEVER have to see him in the middle of the lineup again.
Pretty bizarre at this point. 1. Stearns has had a quick trigger overall 2. Stearns values defense 3. He has an option left, not even a "forever" decision.
Since 9/1-2023, DJ Stewart 86 games played .180/.312/.318 (89 wRC+), negative 0.2 fWAR
Lotta buzz down here about a local college Pitcher coming out this year. His name is Trey Pooser (great baseball name).
Played for College of Charleston Cougars and showed well in the NCAA Tournament. Won many accolades for the Cougs. He had eligibility left when he graduated in 2023, so he went to U of Kentucky as a Grad Student. And put in a good season in 2024.
Kid's got size at 6' 4" and 200 lbs. Is he on any of the pre-draft lists ?? Link - ( New Window )
Lotta buzz down here about a local college Pitcher coming out this year. His name is Trey Pooser (great baseball name).
Played for College of Charleston Cougars and showed well in the NCAA Tournament. Won many accolades for the Cougs. He had eligibility left when he graduated in 2023, so he went to U of Kentucky as a Grad Student. And put in a good season in 2024.
Kid's got size at 6' 4" and 200 lbs. Is he on any of the pre-draft lists ?? Link - ( New Window )
Did not make BA's top 500 draft eligible players (I just checked, I obviously didn't memorize it)
Success for only like a year, he was a 9thish round pick. Maybe he touched 97 once. Weird delivery, can he keep it up?
I think he is way overrated. Has to prove it for an additional full year. Needs to average 94 on the fastball and consistently hit 97-98 to be considered anything more than a Tylor Megill type.
not looking to rile up Eric but decent exit velocities only mean so much. Acuna is a speed/defense player who hopefully can hit enough to be a viable regular. 12 players in the IL have been worse than him in 2024 (wRC+) out of 116 players, his ISO is 102/116, his BB% is 105/116, OBP 98/116 and then there's the 3 for his last 25.
There is absolutely nothing in his numbers that suggests he's ready to help a big league team offensively and it's questionable development-wise if it makes sense to have him play sporadically as a bench piece right now. Logic would suggest a 7.0% BB rate in AAA is going to look pretty ugly right now with the big club. Somebody like Ritter or Brosseau likely should be the next man up for now.
the amount he can/cant help the big league team offensively depends on who he ends up getting at bats over. if it's stewart/mcneil/gamel it's not that high of a bar.
the amount he could help them defensively could be worth it as it has been with iglesias, and while he's passed the eye test iglesias' defensive numbers arent even that good. he is -2 OAA with a 5th percentile arm. iglesias has obviously hit way beyond expectations but he's 34 and never hit much, so id prefer him as a nice bench/depth piece than counting on him as the every day 2b.
acuna could very well come up and not hit at all right now but i think he'd learn something new, and hopefully hed be able to take that back to AAA with him so whenever the next call up comes he's better prepared. players at AAA are always 1 injury away.
Success for only like a year, he was a 9thish round pick. Maybe he touched 97 once. Weird delivery, can he keep it up?
I think he is way overrated. Has to prove it for an additional full year. Needs to average 94 on the fastball and consistently hit 97-98 to be considered anything more than a Tylor Megill type.
97 once?
"The 6-foot-1 hurler throws directly over the top, and that delivery helps him get elite ride on his four-seam fastball. The offering sits 92-94 mph, topping out at 97, and averaged 20.6 inches of induced vertical break, tops among any pitcher that threw a fastball in the FSL. Tong can also snap off a mid-80s curveball that plays well off the verticality of the fastball, and his tight mid-80s slider can also get whiffs. Tong has an 84-86 mph changeup for use against lefties, but that’s a work in progress even though he’s dominated early on in 2024.
Tong experienced control issues in 2022 and 2023 but looked like he ironed those out early on in St. Lucie this spring, in part because he was getting so much swing-and-miss above the zone where he needs to live to dominate. It’s worth monitoring how his walk rate is affected by facing more patient hitters at the upper levels, but there’s no doubting he’s on a path to being a Mets development win."-Pipeline
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The larger filled bubbles indicate whiffs. You can see how his fastball just chews up hitters when it gets 21 inches or more of ride. As crazy has his performance has been, it might get even better if he can consistently get to that magic 21-inch number.
When you get that much ride, velocity doesn’t matter, but Tong is averaging a very respectable albeit slightly below-average 92.7 mph. However, he’s been as high as 97.2 mph, indicating two very positive things: First, he’s pitching well below his max, suggesting he might be less of an injury risk, as he’s not pitching at max effort. Second, he has the potential to sit 95 mph or above, assuming natural growth and maturation. Performance can often be misleading at the lower levels of the minors. However, when you combine elite traits with a 47% whiff rate (in zone and out of zone, righties and lefties), along with a monstrous 20.3% swinging strike rate (against both righties and lefties), it’s basically checking every single pitch quality box you can ask for.
Christian Scott's average FB velocity is 94.3 and he's 4 years older than Tong.
And I ask again, who is "overrating" him? He's a top 15 prospect in the Mets system
is his previous start blowing his FB by hitters because of well above average ride. It would be pretty stunning if Tong doesn't end up throwing at least as hard as Scott with normal maturation of his body Link - ( New Window )
Donovan Antonia had a 38 wRC+ with the FCL Mets, 42 wRC+ with @stluciemets
on the year .157/.252/.220... what if I told you he's been promoted to @BKCyclones
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Lincecum was on a HOF track. Jonah Tong will never be Tim Lincecum. Jonah Tong is ranked the #18 prospect in the Mets system by fangraphs, #20 by pipeline, #15 for BA. I can't speak for "Mets twitter", who also still think Alex Ramirez is going to be a star but Tong generally speaking is viewed as a developmental prospect, having an outstanding season, who has traits that suggest he could be very good.
13 pitchers in the SAL 21 or younger
Tong 4th in K/9, 4th in era, 2nd in FIP, 2nd in xFIP, 3rd in k%, 2nd in average against and he just turned 21. He will be 21 until mid-season 2025.
Jonah Tong 6 innings 3 hits 1 run 0 walks 7 k’s. Tong has struck out 28 while walking only 4 over his last 3 starts (17 innings) . 2 ER allowed over that span #Mets
ops up to .923, batting avg up to .230. ive compared him to duda a lot, duda didnt get to AA until age 23 and when he got there he ops'd 808.
even compared to vientos/alvarez cliffords power at 20 years old for that level is kind of wow. vientos didnt get to AA until his age 21 because of the lost covid year and he ops'd 929. alvarez got there at 20 years old and he ops'd .922. mauricio got there at 20 and he ops'd 815 but only for 8 games. his next year there at 21 in a full sample he ops'd 767.
ops up to .923, batting avg up to .230. ive compared him to duda a lot, duda didnt get to AA until age 23 and when he got there he ops'd 808.
even compared to vientos/alvarez cliffords power at 20 years old for that level is kind of wow. vientos didnt get to AA until his age 21 because of the lost covid year and he ops'd 929. alvarez got there at 20 years old and he ops'd .922. mauricio got there at 20 and he ops'd 815 but only for 8 games. his next year there at 21 in a full sample he ops'd 767.
Like I said he's my most interesting bat in system. Scouting reports underplay his power it seems. People forget he's only 20.
Garcia is not having a good season (allowed 5 runs last night striking out 6) but he's one of the more obvious "move him to the bullpen and you may have something there) arms in the system.
“I’ve been working some counts a little better,” he said. “Getting the two strikes and being able to pick up a couple knocks here and there just to give myself a fighting chance by getting my best swing off early, but also trying to do good damage.”
been told Tong's innings limit is believe to be around 90, so that's roughly 18 innings left in his season
In that case they'll basically give him 3 inning stints to spread it out the rest of the season?
I don't know the actual "plan" but he's at 72 innings pitched... didn't debut in 2022 (his draft year), 21 innings last season. So he's at +51 innings on the season.
been told Tong's innings limit is believe to be around 90, so that's roughly 18 innings left in his season
In that case they'll basically give him 3 inning stints to spread it out the rest of the season?
I don't know the actual "plan" but he's at 72 innings pitched... didn't debut in 2022 (his draft year), 21 innings last season. So he's at +51 innings on the season.
Yeah agreed with you it's coming up but was curious if they'll totally shut him down or try and let him push on regular rotation but in smaller doses.
If he is indeed shut down at 90ish innings then he can go into next season with essentially "no" restrictions. How many SP are throwing more than 140 innings at this point? 90-100 is a good number headed into 2025. Sproat 106 last season, likely no restrictions or a high #
Tough to get a feel in that video for what he is sitting at. I continue to be amazed that our pitching prospects are driving the farm. Clifford really only bat performing at expectations (granted injuries contributed there).
Tough to get a feel in that video for what he is sitting at. I continue to be amazed that our pitching prospects are driving the farm. Clifford really only bat performing at expectations (granted injuries contributed there).
Last night he was 93-95,touched 96 a few times. FB has elite characteristics, ride shape, aka the type of fastball they used to say was a "rising" FB, it's the kind of FB that misses more bats than the pure velocity would suggest. His FB is already the type you can dream on (even without added velocity, which I do expect to come), the development of his secondaries will be the deciding factor (obviously health too)
Everyone thinks he’s the next lincecum. Also I don’t think Christian Scott is that good. He’s OK.
The next Lincecum? Sign me up! He was a top 5 starter in his prime, his prime just happened to be short. That’s like saying he’s the next deGrom. I’ll take the upside and hope you can manage any injury risk.
Everyone thinks he’s the next lincecum. Also I don’t think Christian Scott is that good. He’s OK.
The next Lincecum? Sign me up! He was a top 5 starter in his prime, his prime just happened to be short. That’s like saying he’s the next deGrom. I’ll take the upside and hope you can manage any injury risk.
And another thing taking Twitter takes as gospel. Twitter has also been crying for the Mets to call up Acura NOW! Not everyone with a Twitter account knows baseball.
But at this point does anyone feel that they can count on anyone in the farm to be a back up outfielder to start the season next year? Unless Williams and Gilbert go to AFL and go gangbusters, the Mets will unfortunately have to be in the market for an outfielder And after Soto it’s not all that desirable. In theory you can resign Bader for cf and hope that the corpse of Marte can hold it together for the first 6-8 weeks. Another alternative would be to play Baty in LF and hope he can get his head on straight, let Alonso walk, and sign someone like adames and move him to 3rd. Anyway you cut it between the amount of payroll coming off and the amount of holes it is going to be a fascinating offseason.
Everyone thinks he’s the next lincecum. Also I don’t think Christian Scott is that good. He’s OK.
The next Lincecum? Sign me up! He was a top 5 starter in his prime, his prime just happened to be short. That’s like saying he’s the next deGrom. I’ll take the upside and hope you can manage any injury risk.
He’s saying Mets twitter is too high on Tong with unrealistic expectations. The projected next Lincecum would be the current top P prospect in baseball easily.
But at this point does anyone feel that they can count on anyone in the farm to be a back up outfielder to start the season next year? Unless Williams and Gilbert go to AFL and go gangbusters, the Mets will unfortunately have to be in the market for an outfielder And after Soto it’s not all that desirable. In theory you can resign Bader for cf and hope that the corpse of Marte can hold it together for the first 6-8 weeks. Another alternative would be to play Baty in LF and hope he can get his head on straight, let Alonso walk, and sign someone like adames and move him to 3rd. Anyway you cut it between the amount of payroll coming off and the amount of holes it is going to be a fascinating offseason.
Jett Williams isn’t going to be an OD option (would mean he skipped AA and AAA after missing an entire season) Gilbert likely remains a viable option assuming he’s back by August or so. Otherwise, no. They don’t have much in the way of MLB ready or close to MLB ready OFers. Ramirez has been awful
My jinxes haven't been working with DJ Stewart, they did work with Ryan Clifford... so let's try this... Luisangel Acuna is 3 for his last 25 and 6 for his last 38 #Mets
Safe to assume that even if Drew Gilbert goes bonkers over the next few weeks, he won't be called up before the 2025 PPI deadline passes. Last season it was 8/18. Stearns isn't forfeiting a potential extra high pick to rush up an unproven player
Simon Juan with his second hit of the game, a double, his 10th of the season. Juan has had a very solid season (111 wRC+) and given his age (turns 19 on Saturday) he remains at minimum a name to follow headed into 2025 #Mets
Safe to assume that even if Drew Gilbert goes bonkers over the next few weeks, he won't be called up before the 2025 PPI deadline passes. Last season it was 8/18. Stearns isn't forfeiting a potential extra high pick to rush up an unproven player
Very good point! Always forgetting about the PPI stuff.
Game 1 -- Megill had a 4-0 lead, but coughed up the tying run in the 5th.
Luis Acuna opened the bottom of the 7th with a single, stole 2nd (29th steal), and went to 3rd on a Wild Pitch, and then scored on another Wild Pitch by Phil Bickford. Tie Game.
Luke Ritter (playing LF) promptly drives in the winning run with a single.
Game 1 -- Megill had a 4-0 lead, but coughed up the tying run in the 5th.
Luis Acuna opened the bottom of the 7th with a single, stole 2nd (29th steal), and went to 3rd on a Wild Pitch, and then scored on another Wild Pitch by Phil Bickford. Tie Game.
Luke Ritter (playing LF) promptly drives in the winning run with a single.
i think the thing people miss with acuna right now is that speed and defense are huge aspects of baseball. always have been and with the rules they are even more.
PCA got called up by the cubs when he was not hitting very well at AAA. In the big leagues he has hit .200 with a 53 run created. but because he plays really good defense he's been worth .7 fwar. he's stolen 16 bases. which basically triple his number of xbh (which is just 8).
you know who wont be worth .7 fwar this year? DJ stewart or ben Gamel. DJ is actually -.1 and Mcneil is even worse. we can pray iglesius continues playing the way he is or that marte somehow comes back healthy and not terrible in RF, but id start making backup plans with acuna in case baty's defense at 2b is problematic. one of those plans would also be baty in the OF.
@keithlaw says @mets have been tied to Carson Benge "for months"
on a scale from 1 to jett williams, would you be happy with benge? do you have any favorites this year?
Outstanding athlete but major concerns with how much power he'll hit for and his swing in general. I like him but would be concerned with the Mets being the team to make the necessary swing changes.
Personally Caldwell, Lindsay, Brecht, Seaver King if they really want a college bat in their range, Cijntje would probably be the players I'd most be happy with. Benge would be a quality addition to the organization.
.@SyracuseMets TBD
@RumblePoniesBB Nolan McLean (HR's have been killer for McLean so far, 8 over 34.2 innings. Otherwise his AA numbers don't look far off from his BK work)
@BKCyclones Dakota Hawkins
@stluciemets Ernesto Mercedes #Mets
now mentioning Culpepper, I wouldn't love that pick.
19. Mets — Kaelen Culpepper, SS, Kansas State
I’ve previously had Culpepper going in the supplemental round, but increasingly it seems like teams expect him to go in the first thanks to everyone scooping up college hitters. He has the advantage of profiling at shortstop—something none of the other college hitters in this range can claim except Seaver King—and has solid offensive tools, athleticism and big arm strength.
Carson Benge would make sense if he’s still on the board, and other hitters like Seaver King, Tommy White or Vance Honeycutt could bet a fit, as well. The Mets have targeted up-the-middle profiles in recent years, but under David Stearns perhaps their player preferences will now be more similar to what the Brewers have done.
now mentioning Culpepper, I wouldn't love that pick.
19. Mets — Kaelen Culpepper, SS, Kansas State
I’ve previously had Culpepper going in the supplemental round, but increasingly it seems like teams expect him to go in the first thanks to everyone scooping up college hitters. He has the advantage of profiling at shortstop—something none of the other college hitters in this range can claim except Seaver King—and has solid offensive tools, athleticism and big arm strength.
Carson Benge would make sense if he’s still on the board, and other hitters like Seaver King, Tommy White or Vance Honeycutt could bet a fit, as well. The Mets have targeted up-the-middle profiles in recent years, but under David Stearns perhaps their player preferences will now be more similar to what the Brewers have done.
it seems like brewers under him took athletes who play defense and have that all around good intangibles thing (so i guess nimmo, jett williams and gilbert types). corey ray was their highest bonus over $4m and frelick was i think their second highest pick/bonus at $4m and he seems very similar to drew gilbert. turang is a great glove. mitchell looks to be playing mostly CF and has the "good command of strike zone" thing in his scouting reports.
hiurra was a bat to ball skills guy, he also got a $4m bonus, though his scouting report was a little more one dimensional. lutz seems like the only real power hitter profile they chose and he was a supp pick so his bonus was 2.3m. eric brown and tyler black got similar low 2m's signing bonuses. black sounds like a funky prospect. cant recall any other 1b prospect who stole 55 bases in any season even minors.
there are probably more clues in houston drafts than brewers drafts though. im sure stearns is involved but gross is probably equally if not more involved in developing the short list of guys they believe in.
hope Gilbert is better than Frelick. Frelick career .345 slugging% over 141 games. Don't think fans would be too excited about a Frelick outcome.
I feel like there was always some concern with Frelick's power whereas for Gilbert not as much. I do agree it would be really disappointing if Gilbert showed up with that type of SLG over his first full season. There's also time for Frelick to at least start to life the ball a bit more.
i tend to read those "good at everything not great at anything" types
as likely to be good 3rd/4th OFers/useful role players. i think its far less common they develop into nimmo type all stars.
reading gilbert's scouting report that's how i felt, and while his run in AA last year was super impressive he also had a really high BABIP. my expectation is he is more solid RF with a strong side platoon than star. maybe brett gardner-ish. if he can play plus D in center that raises the ceiling but it doesnt seem likely he's better in center long term than acuna or jett.
Has a piece up now that more than suggests Gross (not Stearns) is running the show draft wise
that makes sense, stearns' job is too big to be effective "running the show". im sure he and gross have alignment in what types of players they are looking for, and then it's basically gross' job to go out there and find it.
Has a piece up now that more than suggests Gross (not Stearns) is running the show draft wise
Saw that. Not a surprise one bit given Gross' success with the Astros
Yup. Nothing new, just clarity from DiComo. It does make the “what Stearns did in Milwaukee via the draft…” less notable.
i would guess in Milwaukee he worked similarly, especially once Arnold ascended to GM he was probably pretty removed in terms of specific selections.
I think what we might see is anywhere there was overlap in the types of players Houston/Milwaukee tended toward, especially wherever successful, are the types of players we will see Gross/Stearns trying to find. But ultimately the board will fall how it falls so even that only goes so far.
RE: Could Mauricio be moved to the outfield when healthy?
He looked really good at 2B last year. They should have tried him at one or both of the corner OF spots. It's a little late now though with him being out injured for the year. I want him on this team, but a trade looks inevitable with the logjam we've go in the infield between himself, Baty, Acuna, and Jett. Mauricio and Baty will be ready to rock and roll next year (I'm assuming Baty will spend the rest of the season at Triple A based on the dynamic of things now with the big club).
Acuna will prolly be ready to be promoted to the show as well next season, but I could see them leaving him at Syracuse a lil while longer. Jett is prolly gonna play in the Arizona Fall League after he comes back form his injury and will start the season at either the Bing (AA) or at 'Cuse, depending on a whole bunch of factors. He ain't gonna be coming up to the show till 2026 IMO based on the dynamics of things personnel-wise as of now.
To me, Vientos has won a position on this team. I'm OK with him at the
hot corner now. Before I was iffy, but now, he's ok. Baty is a superior defensive player there, but Vientos has stepped it up. I'm happy for him and proud of him as well.
Now, ASSUMING Pete is re-signed (which is a BIG assumption right now), I would be fine with Baty and Vientos alternating between DH and 3B. I'd prefer Baty to play there defensively more than not, but that's a good combo IF Baty figures his $hit out and learns to launch the ball at Syracuse this year before coming back next year. I'm also assuming J.D. Martinez won't be back next year (sorry to say that).
Mauricio would look nice at 2B. He didn't embarrass himself there last year. Keep Jett in the minors till at least 2026. That leaves Acuna, who should be ready for the big club next year. I could one of Acuna or Mauricio going in a trade, particularly Acuna, for a corner OF, starting pitcher, or a first baseman if Pete leaves in free agency. If Pete's back I could even see the Mets making a play for a big-time reliever (perhaps Alexis Diaz). Let's see how things work themselves out because there will promise to be lots of moving parts this coming off-season.
I have not heard of Seaver King until this very moment....But I want the Mets to draft this kid.
Googled him -- Good Resume' and excellent name.
Georgia produces some good players. The Braves sure do love to mine their home state for talent. He'd be a good addition to the Mets' minor league cache of talent.
As I said back in May, @mets were/are reportedly high on Yonatan Henriquez. He is now hitting .301/.474/.369 31/20 BB/K (not a typo), 15/18 SB's. Came into today with a 146 wRC+, 9th best in the FCL
Are you guys cool if I start a draft thread today?
2/4 with a 2B and a BB yesterday. Up to .238/.380/.544 line in AA good for a 154 wRC+. Parada hit another HR as well. Pretty sure he's been on fire the last 2 weeks. Maybe there's some hope there after all and seems like his D is improving. Up to a 95 wRC+.
Vasil had a good start. He send to be turning things around a bit. Wonder if he switched something up.
RE: RE: Are you guys cool if I start a draft thread today?
I'm making one now. I'll also do an All-Star Break thread too, in lieu of a series thread. This way we can have a stream of consciousness thing going there too for whatever other random stuff people might want to chat about during that time not associated with the draft or minor leagues. It'll help to organize and consolidate things better I think. The suggestion was made about the draft thread today and it made sense. I should post it very shortly. Won't be anything complicated. Just a place we can follow the goings-on starting tomorrow.
2/4 with a 2B and a BB yesterday. Up to .238/.380/.544 line in AA good for a 154 wRC+. Parada hit another HR as well. Pretty sure he's been on fire the last 2 weeks. Maybe there's some hope there after all and seems like his D is improving. Up to a 95 wRC+.
Vasil had a good start. He send to be turning things around a bit. Wonder if he switched something up.
parada has hit for xbh most of his career so his carrying tool is still sort of carrying, or at least keeping him treading water.
the problem is it is carrying a lot of negative baggage with the contact problems and defense. though like you said those things appear to be somewhat improving and it is not abnormal for catchers to take longer.
i think he is clearly an interesting trade chip that a team searching for hitting upside in the upper minors could be tempted by. however long the odds are he is a solid powerball ticket.
major point of concern in regard to optimism with Parada (and Houck has a similar red flag)... in zone whiff rates. If you're swinging and missing at pitches out of the zone, that's something that's "easier" to correct. We've seen plenty of free swingers become more selective. Missing pitches IN the strike zone at a high level has been proven to be far more difficult to correct.
major point of concern in regard to optimism with Parada (and Houck has a similar red flag)... in zone whiff rates. If you're swinging and missing at pitches out of the zone, that's something that's "easier" to correct. We've seen plenty of free swingers become more selective. Missing pitches IN the strike zone at a high level has been proven to be far more difficult to correct.
i agree with this, though i also think the stats around this get taken out of context often mostly because they are new and not well publicized at the minor league level. im not saying they are wrong and i have seen the same reports, i just dont trust the amateur scouting community as being good at analyzing that type of data yet. im not even sure the teams are great at it yet and they are throwing millions of $ of analysis at it.
I'll post that early NY time on Monday, after the Rockies series. We can just shoot the breeze there for four days in lieu of a series. Draft stuff will be on this thread though and minor league stuff will be on the minors thread for July, as usual.
RE: There will be an All-Star Break thread too for other assorted stuff.
I'll post that early NY time on Monday, after the Rockies series. We can just shoot the breeze there for four days in lieu of a series. Draft stuff will be on this thread though and minor league stuff will be on the minors thread for July, as usual.
Oops! I meant Draft stuff will go on the Draft thread, not here. Sorry! Bad job forgetting to edit after copying and pasting on my part.
Tidwell pitched for SYR on Saturday, and did not have a good game.
He went 3.2 innings, gave up 3 hits, 3 Runs, 3 ER's 3 Walks, 3 K's, and 2 HR's. (Three's were wild yesterday, I guess).
On a more positive note, Luke Ritter continues doing Luke Ritter things. He plays a half dozen IF and OF positions. And he drove in 2 runs in a 7 -4 SYR victory over the Scrantons. He can take DJ Stewart's job.
Oh, and Matt Gage got the Save. Bring him up !!
I think it might be Mike Vasil's turn to start today, before the Minor League break.
has been awful in Syracuse. I think he'll turn it around but he's always had significant bullpen risk (wouldn't be the end of the world given organizational needs) but he's not looking like he's helping the big club late 2024 as some were suggesting, probably not on the early season radar for next season either.
I missed Friday's game....I usually listen to the first few innings, especially if one of our good starters is going. We went out to see our favorite band playing locally.
Vasil's line on Friday -- looked pretty good.
6.0 Innings, 6 Hits, 2 ER's, 0 Walks, 5 K's, 1 solo HR.
Glad he's cut down on the Walks.
In comment 16553205 Optimus-NY said:
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NL Futures vs. AL Futures Game Highlights (7/13/24) | MLB Futures Game Highlights
Sproat threw a hitless and scoreless 3rd inning (12 pitches). [/qYeuote]
Yes, I watched Sproat yesterday....'Composure' is the word that comes to mind. He mowed three AL kids down. Most pitchers got a single inning to show off. Some of the other guys on the NL team were not so smooth out there. Thomas White, the Marlin's LH pitcher got cuffed around soundly.
Kodai in the Third -- Another K, this time with the Ghost-Fork. Gave up a hit, but that runner was erased on a DP started by Acuna playing 2B today.
38 pitches facing the minimum thru 3 innings.
Wow. @stluciemets 11-0 in the 5th with only 1 extra base hit. Boston Baro 2-4, Ronald Hernandez 2-3, HR BB (not showing much power coming into today but having a nice season), Houck 1-2, BB, Fanas 3-3, Thornton 1 perfect 2 k's #Mets
Kodai in the 4th -- surrendered a hit and a run but worked out of a first and third nobody out jam. I think the radio guy said he's up to 55 pitches, his high for the rehab so far.
Fully admitting I didn’t watch every pitch, I thought Senga looked good (and healthy) but not dominant. I’d probably give him one more rehab start but that’s just me. Clearly labored in the 5th. Again, I’m talking about stamina vs. thinking he’s still hurt
Fully admitting I didn’t watch every pitch, I thought Senga looked good (and healthy) but not dominant. I’d probably give him one more rehab start but that’s just me. Clearly labored in the 5th. Again, I’m talking about stamina vs. thinking he’s still hurt
Agreed. Give him time. I'd be fine with him coming back the first week of August after the trade deadline passes on July 30th. Heps us to figure out the big-league roster too.
Tyler Stuart yesterday 4 innings 4 hits 1 er 0 walks 4 k's. Stuart has a 24/1 K/BB over his last 4 starts and has dropped his era nearly 1 full run over the last month #Mets
Tyler Stuart yesterday 4 innings 4 hits 1 er 0 walks 4 k's. Stuart has a 24/1 K/BB over his last 4 starts and has dropped his era nearly 1 full run over the last month #Mets
Stuart is a guy I'm pulling for. He's got dominant size, listed at 6' 9" and 250 lbs.....throws down-hill. That's the kind of look that can screw up the opposition's batting order for the next day.
inside information but Stuart's promotion to Syracuse is likely very close. 3.39 FIP/3.28 xFIP this season, not really much more for him to prove in AA (23 AA starts 2023+2024)
Probably won't happen but I'd be curious to see DSL pitcher Jose Guevara receive an end of the DSL season promotion to @stluciemets. Guevara is older for a DSL player (turned 19 in April) and has been dominant in DSL player (1.84 era, 35 k's over 29.1 innings vs. only 6 BB) #Mets
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Not counting William Schmidt, 45 of our top 50 players on the final
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big board went on day 1.
Left out there for round 3:
Dakota Jordan (34)
Joey Oakie (43)
Sean Keys (45)
Mike Sirota (48)
Kavares Tears (50)
and mets pick what 8th today? seems like a decent chance they can get another highish profile player. doesn't sound like either guy they pick has any kind of extreme hard to sign-ability but i guess we'll see.
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Not counting William Schmidt, 45 of our top 50 players on the final
@baseballpro
big board went on day 1.
Left out there for round 3:
Dakota Jordan (34)
Joey Oakie (43)
Sean Keys (45)
Mike Sirota (48)
Kavares Tears (50)
and mets pick what 8th today? seems like a decent chance they can get another highish profile player. doesn't sound like either guy they pick has any kind of extreme hard to sign-ability but i guess we'll see.
Yes 82nd overall. Both players they picked will be signing.
was on Collazo's "dart throw" pick for the Mets, which were both players he heard teams like AND picks that made sense based on drafting habits, it's unclear which one he represents in regard to the Mets.
@BKCyclones have released LHP Julian Smith. Smith the @Dodgers 15th round pick in the 2018 drafted was signed by @Mets to a minor league deal in May #Mets
Mayer proposes trading Tyler Stuart and Nick Morabito for Jesse Winker
Seems like a lot to give up for a rental. Maybe Morabito only.
I feel the same way. If you liked Stuart in 2023 then you should still like him now. he's posting near identical numbers at a higher level. 2023 3.06 FIP/9.99 k/9, 2.74 BB/9 2024- 3.39 FIP, 9.81 K/9, 2.19 bb/9
Mayer proposes trading Tyler Stuart and Nick Morabito for Jesse Winker
Seems like a lot to give up for a rental. Maybe Morabito only.
I feel the same way. If you liked Stuart in 2023 then you should still like him now. he's posting near identical numbers at a higher level. 2023 3.06 FIP/9.99 k/9, 2.74 BB/9 2024- 3.39 FIP, 9.81 K/9, 2.19 bb/9
I’d do Morabito and a lesser secondary piece.
Something like Morabito and Wenninger I would be fine with
I would do that or something similar. Stuart isn’t the next big thing (pun intended) but he’s a XXL upper minors SP performing well in AA, that plus Morabito is an overpay for a rental of a guy like Winker. Wenninger has an outstanding CU but his upside is limited.
Mayer proposes trading Tyler Stuart and Nick Morabito for Jesse Winker
Seems like a lot to give up for a rental. Maybe Morabito only.
Morabito is all I'd do, and I prolly wouldn't even do that. Winker is a dog with a mit on and is an impending FA. You could convince me if he was better in the field, but man, he's turrible there, which is a shame cuz he'd be a great guy in one of the corner OF spots if he were just average. He's a left-handed hitter with pop who would do well here we all think. He's the type of player that would thrive in NYC IMO. Buffalo kid who digs the passionate vibes at Citi Field. He's an instant improvement over Stewart and Gamel. I have to admit that it's really tempting to trade for Winker, but the lack of defense makes me say no.
not a huge Winker fan but if Winker were a good fielder, his price via trade would be significantly higher than Morabito types. He has a 130 wRC+ tied for 31st in baseball, 11th amongst OFers, we'd be talking about names like Tidwell and Mauricio if Winker were also an average or better fielder, even as a rental.
not a huge Winker fan but if Winker were a good fielder, his price via trade would be significantly higher than Morabito types. He has a 130 wRC+ tied for 31st in baseball, 11th amongst OFers, we'd be talking about names like Tidwell and Mauricio if Winker were also an average or better fielder, even as a rental.
Add in who Winker would be replacing. Can't count on Marte. They have Stewart and Gamel on the team (both poor fielders). Mets need an upgrade there. I'd rather see them keep Morabito for a Winker, but not going to lose sleep over it.
I'd try and send them Ramirez instead.
i doubt they trade for winker - i wanted to give him a ST invite but
the fact that Stearns didnt even do that when they had some use for him (especially before signing JDM, he could have been a good DH option mixing with vientos) makes me think the experience with him in MIL wasnt good last year beyond the numbers. it was an easy no risk add then, so i very much doubt they would give up prospects for him now.
i have always liked winker though. if they think marte is out for the year or something i could maybe see it.
not even advocating for Winker, I'm just saying if he were a solid defensive player, a Morabito headlined package wouldn't be anywhere near the best offer. That's not a shot at Morabito.
not even advocating for Winker, I'm just saying if he were a solid defensive player, a Morabito headlined package wouldn't be anywhere near the best offer. That's not a shot at Morabito.
jmo but he's a non-premium enough asset that it's kind of impossible to say despite the good year.
is winker more comparable in value to canha who only returned jarvis? or pham, who brought back j-rod?
i think it could be either and it's probably more impacted by who else ends up on the market than winker himself. if bichette, chisholm, vlad jr, etc hit the market then winker probably ends up a less competitive player to trade for and a better chance he brings back a weak return. kind of like mancini in 2022.
has a 130 wRC+, Canha had a 105 wRC+ at the time of the trade and was owed "significant" money. Winker is owed under 1 million aka every single team in baseball down to the A's can afford him/money would have no impact on his market. Morabito has a 103 wRC+ slugging .347 in A+. If Jesse Winker were a solid defensive player he'd be on pace for almost 4 fWAR (1.3 right now), Canha put up 1.7 fWAR for the entirety of 2023
125 wRC+, 1.4 fWAR at the time of the trade, so he's likely a far better comparison and again, I'm suggesting *if* Winker were a good defensive player, he's not. But if he were he'd be an extremely hot commodity.
opinion is that Winker (right now, aka not in a hypothetical world where he were a good defensive player) would cost the Mets 2 prospects in the 20-30 range which includes names like Tyler Stuart (who he suggested would go *with* Morabito, Jacob Reimer, Kade Morris, Yovanny Rodriguez, Alex Ramirez etc
opinion is that Winker (right now, aka not in a hypothetical world where he were a good defensive player) would cost the Mets 2 prospects in the 20-30 range which includes names like Tyler Stuart (who he suggested would go *with* Morabito, Jacob Reimer, Kade Morris, Yovanny Rodriguez, Alex Ramirez etc
i think he's right, though there's obviously differences in lowly ranked prospects. i dont even recall j-rod being on too many public rankings last year bc he was so young whereas coleman crow and jarvis were just because they were higher up.
my main point was just that most over 30's deadline rental journeyman types, even if having good years, dont always bring back good (let's say top 10) prospects. pham obviously did but i think that's the exception more than usual. if marte (115 rc) were healthy and the mets paid the full freight on his contract i was hoping for but not expecting to get back another j-rod.
point is a hypothetical "good" defensive Winker would be one of the best players (if not THE best) bat traded at the deadline. He's a 130 wRC+ hitter this season, how many superior players to that are likely to be moved? His *current* value is almost certainly Morabito (plus). Morabito didn't make BA's mid-season update (Mets top 30) nor Fangraphs top 42. So they can both be "wrong" but it's fair to say he's not some major name right now.
So @mets have at least 4 @mets fans in the system. RHP Max Kranick, 3B Mark Vientos, RHP Ben Simon and new 2b Nick Roselli. (I'm sure there are more than 4, but those 4 are "known" to be Mets fans, or grew up rooting for the Mets) #Mets
Day off again for Gilbert/Reimer. I'd be surprised if they play another game for @FCLMets. Question is are they headed to @stluciemets or @BKCyclones next? #Mets
Day off again for Gilbert/Reimer. I'd be surprised if they play another game for @FCLMets. Question is are they headed to @stluciemets or @BKCyclones next? #Mets
Hopefully Cuse for Gilbert and Brooklyn for Reimer. No more rehab.
Day off again for Gilbert/Reimer. I'd be surprised if they play another game for @FCLMets. Question is are they headed to @stluciemets or @BKCyclones next? #Mets
Hopefully Cuse for Gilbert and Brooklyn for Reimer. No more rehab.
We'll see. Both are hitless (22 combined PA's). A stopover somewhere else wouldn't surprise me (Gilbert in particular).
opinion is that Winker (right now, aka not in a hypothetical world where he were a good defensive player) would cost the Mets 2 prospects in the 20-30 range which includes names like Tyler Stuart (who he suggested would go *with* Morabito, Jacob Reimer, Kade Morris, Yovanny Rodriguez, Alex Ramirez etc
I'd be opposed to trading Tyler Stuart, and if I did, I'd certainly want more than two months of Jesse Winker.
I believe there are better OF options at SYR right now, with more OF bats moving up thru the system.
opinion is that Winker (right now, aka not in a hypothetical world where he were a good defensive player) would cost the Mets 2 prospects in the 20-30 range which includes names like Tyler Stuart (who he suggested would go *with* Morabito, Jacob Reimer, Kade Morris, Yovanny Rodriguez, Alex Ramirez etc
I'd be opposed to trading Tyler Stuart, and if I did, I'd certainly want more than two months of Jesse Winker.
I believe there are better OF options at SYR right now, with more OF bats moving up thru the system.
And Stuart is worth holding and developing.
No disagreement here but I'd do Morabito for Winker without giving it much thought. Morabito barring significant power gains is a a 4th or 5th OFer and this team is in a playoff race.
Day off again for Gilbert/Reimer. I'd be surprised if they play another game for @FCLMets. Question is are they headed to @stluciemets or @BKCyclones next? #Mets
Hopefully Cuse for Gilbert and Brooklyn for Reimer. No more rehab.
We'll see. Both are hitless (22 combined PA's). A stopover somewhere else wouldn't surprise me (Gilbert in particular).
I'm not sure they're looking at stats. Probably seeing if they stay healthy and get their work in but we shall see where they pop up.
Yeah, they could pick any two players from the list of Morabito, Jacob Reimer, Kade Morris, Yovanny Rodriguez, Alex Ramirez (who I had high hopes for).
be pretty stunned if they moved Rodriguez for a rental player. They just paid him the biggest bonus in franchise history. Yes, he's struggled but he's also only 17.
be pretty stunned if they moved Rodriguez for a rental player. They just paid him the biggest bonus in franchise history. Yes, he's struggled but he's also only 17.
And look at the progress from Gutierrez this year. These are young kids and a lot of them will not hit the ground running. I can't see Yovanny being included but an absolute huge name.
The Mets and catcher Logan Porter are in agreement on a major league deal, according to Ari Alexander of KPRC 2 on X. The deal is pending a physical. The Mets will need to open a 40-man spot to make the move official.
J-Rod 0-1 (OPS down to .737), Henriquez 0-1 (just noticed he's playing some CF this season), Juan 0-1, K, Gutierrez (BB), game is now in a rain delay #Mets
Yeah, they could pick any two players from the list of Morabito, Jacob Reimer, Kade Morris, Yovanny Rodriguez, Alex Ramirez (who I had high hopes for).
But in my opinion, Big Stuart is a keeper.
Gotta hold onto Tyler Stuart. Trading him for Winker is some reverse Ed Hearn type $hit.
Dan was right. Gilbert and Reimer in St Lucie tonight.
turns 21 today, where does he rank in the system right now? probably ahead of mauricio/acuna, has he bypassed gilbert? they may be teammates soon and he's almost 3 full years younger.
is far from the end all be all but their mid-seasoon update didn't have Clifford. If he continues hitting like this he's assuredly a lock for the end of the season list but that would suggest he's still behind a guy like Gilbert for them. BP only went 50 deep on their mid season list so that doesn't help much here lol
is far from the end all be all but their mid-seasoon update didn't have Clifford. If he continues hitting like this he's assuredly a lock for the end of the season list but that would suggest he's still behind a guy like Gilbert for them. BP only went 50 deep on their mid season list so that doesn't help much here lol
with gilbert not playing, i think it's more a question of style preference than talent scouting.
21 year old with massive power closing in on AAA or more well-rounded almost 24 year old, better at most everything except power?
there arent too many players in the system i'd feel more uncomfortable trading than clifford. jett and mauricio may be the only 2. acuna and gilbert are obviously way higher floor because of their defense but will either ever hit for enough damage? or are they just solid supporting players? clifford could be gallo or he could be schwarber, but it's scary to trade that much power upside at that age. schwarber was a fast mover but his age 21 was just his draft year. his age 22 was when he hit upper minors and got to mlb, and clifford is still going to be 21 for half of next year.
Dan was right. Gilbert and Reimer in St Lucie tonight.
turns 21 today, where does he rank in the system right now? probably ahead of mauricio/acuna, has he bypassed gilbert? they may be teammates soon and he's almost 3 full years younger.
Glad the Mets held out for him. He's likely to be the crown jewel of last summer's veteran trade-off/purge. As long as he stays healthy, he'll in 'Cuse to start next season and with the big club in 2026. The question is where? In a corner OF spot (RF) or at 1B to replace Pete?
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Kodai Senga (presumably his final rehab start)
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McLean (Up and down so far with Bing. 5.35 era/5.27 FIP, still solid 9.78 k/9, HR's have been killer (1.86/9)
@BKCyclones
Kade Morris (quietly a solid 2024)
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TBD #Mets
is far from the end all be all but their mid-seasoon update didn't have Clifford. If he continues hitting like this he's assuredly a lock for the end of the season list but that would suggest he's still behind a guy like Gilbert for them. BP only went 50 deep on their mid season list so that doesn't help much here lol
with gilbert not playing, i think it's more a question of style preference than talent scouting.
21 year old with massive power closing in on AAA or more well-rounded almost 24 year old, better at most everything except power?
there arent too many players in the system i'd feel more uncomfortable trading than clifford. jett and mauricio may be the only 2. acuna and gilbert are obviously way higher floor because of their defense but will either ever hit for enough damage? or are they just solid supporting players? clifford could be gallo or he could be schwarber, but it's scary to trade that much power upside at that age. schwarber was a fast mover but his age 21 was just his draft year. his age 22 was when he hit upper minors and got to mlb, and clifford is still going to be 21 for half of next year.
Exactly on the preference. I have him 3/4 with Gilbert. Jett and Sproat ahead.
.@SyracuseMets RHP Dom Hamel (6 strong last time out, overall it's been a rough season for Hamel. 6.66 era, 1.72 whip)
@RumblePoniesBB Brandon Sproat (some buzz @mets may consider him out of the pen later in the season)
@BKCyclones Felipe De La Cruz
@stluciemets TBD #Mets
Newest @mets minor leaguer Channing Austin only threw *15.1* career innings at USC. He must have impressed @mets scouts with his performance in the MLBD where he made 8 appearances 15 innings 5 walks 16 k's 3.60 era #Mets
Baro with a very solid first pro season. .285/.366/.404, 19 extra base hits, 29 walks/44 k's over 235 ab's, 123 wRC+. Won't turn 20 until the end of August
maybe even a little higher than that despite his recent struggles, but overall this is a quality group so hard to criticize too much. clifford and gilbert are kind of tied in my mind, and im pretty sure id have mauricio ahead of both right now.
J-Rod collects his second hit of the game, this time a single. End of the year #'swill be closer to solid than outstanding but successful pro debut and won't even turn 19 until next July. 16 extra base hits, 21/37 K/BB over 191 ab's, 14/21 steals,104 wRC+ coming into today #Mets
J-Rod collects his second hit of the game, this time a single. End of the year #'swill be closer to solid than outstanding but successful pro debut and won't even turn 19 until next July. 16 extra base hits, 21/37 K/BB over 191 ab's, 14/21 steals,104 wRC+ coming into today #Mets
maybe even a little higher than that despite his recent struggles, but overall this is a quality group so hard to criticize too much. clifford and gilbert are kind of tied in my mind, and im pretty sure id have mauricio ahead of both right now.
I'd have Sproat right behind Scott. Benge is tough but maybe since his upside could be a tad higher I'd have him over Acuna but Acuna is knocking on the door. I'd have Tong over McLean.
maybe even a little higher than that despite his recent struggles, but overall this is a quality group so hard to criticize too much. clifford and gilbert are kind of tied in my mind, and im pretty sure id have mauricio ahead of both right now.
I'd have Sproat right behind Scott. Benge is tough but maybe since his upside could be a tad higher I'd have him over Acuna but Acuna is knocking on the door. I'd have Tong over McLean.
forgot about tong, pretty sure id still go position player (j-rod) over either of the pitchers since they are both probably 2+ years away, which means 2 more years of what ~20% odds of a TJS before even getting to big leagues?
id definitely stick with acuna over benge. there's only a 10 month age difference, acuna the better athlete so probably the better defender, so then it all comes down to bat upside and translation risk. does benge have a little more upside with the bat? sure. is there a lot more risk with a guy who hasnt debuted yet vs a guy already performing in AAA? yes. way too much for me to rank higher on a little higher upside bat.
Tidwell 4 innings 3 hits 0 er 2 walks 7 k’s, Justin Jarvis on in relief, Brett Baty with 2 extra base hits including a HR, Acuna 0-3, K, Gilbert (return to AAA) 1-3, Porter 0-2 BB #Mets
Tidwell has been atrocious so far in AAA so this is obviously a good sign.
his homers were 108 mph, 103mph
his doubles were 89mph, 99mph
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Brett Baty for Syracuse tonight: 4-for-5, 2 2B, 2 HR, 3 RBI
If he was comfortable in the OF he would have taken Stewart’s spot already.
I hear you man. He should be taking reps in one of the corner OF spots. He did before in LF, I don't know why they're messing with him by playing some at 2B now in addition to his normal 3B. Typical Mets bull$hit.
Alex Ramirez 0-1 (Ramirez has 14 total extra base hits since May 1st, a span of 61 games), Clifford 0-1, Parada 0-1 K, Stuart 2 innings 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 3 k's (his run of outstanding pitching continues). One of the most underrated 2024 @mets minor leaguers
Baro 2-2, SB (scorching hot, 4 multi-hit games in July, 12 for his last 23), Ewing 0-1, K, Hernandez 0-2, K, Houck 0-2, K (Hawk Tuah is having a better July. Houck really struggling) #Mets
Baro with a walk. His numbers are more good/very good than eye popping but very nice season for the soon to be 20 year old Baro. Should be fun to follow him in BK next season (if not sooner)
Morabito with a walk and a single and 2 steals. On the downside he has not hit for any power since his promotion He has 9 doubles, 2 homers and 1 triple over his first 57 games with the Cyclones #Mets
Kevin Parada now hitting near .300 for the month of July, K% remains far too high (20's over 53 abs) but showing some signs of life
Houck 0-4, 4 k's (very disappointing season from the 2023 1st round pick , hopefully next season is different), Baro 3-3, BB, SB, (had a 4 hit game last week), Hernandez 0-3, BB, 2 k's, Fanas 1-3, K
Another strong outing so far for Tyler Stuart. 6 innings 4 hits 1 run 1 walk 5 k's. One has to figure, he's a name teams will be asking about in trade talks. Upper minors SP depth #Mets
Another strong outing so far for Tyler Stuart. 6 innings 4 hits 1 run 1 walk 5 k's. One has to figure, he's a name teams will be asking about in trade talks. Upper minors SP depth #Mets
Not trading him this deadline. He's too talented. Parada on the other hand...
in a trade for Mason Miller or Garrett Crochet without thinking twice.
though he'd be just a piece in those trades and I'm not sure the other teams value Stuart enough for him to be a significant portion and the Mets may not have the prospects/mlb ready players other teams (BAL) do to put out a better offer.
Miller is around a year older than Stuart and Crochet is just a few months older.
Solid, unspectacular season from Joander Suarez this year, k rate down significantly from last season but still holds a 3.73 FIP over 85.1 innings. He’s a minor league FA after the season
Tyler Stuart’s FIP is down to 3.28 (3rd best in the EL) which is lower than it was in 2023 when people were focused on his extremely low era. K rate has held steady (10th), walk rate is down (4th), gb% remains strong (5th) #Mets
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up 2-0 early. J-Rod 0-3, Henriquez 1-3, 3b, BB (most overlooked strong season in the system), Juan 1-2, Gutierrez 1-2, Aracena 4 innings 1 hit 0 runs 1 walk 5 k's (I still think he's a long term sleeper, 6.26 era on the season and all)
J-Rod 0-3, 2 SB's (15th and 16th), Henriquez 1-2, 3b, BB, Rosa 3 walks (very disappointing season for him, to put it mildly), Juan 1-3, Aracena 4 innings 1 hit 0 runs 1 walk 5 k's, Cota 2 perfect 2 k's (28 innings 41 k's) for the 20 year old signed out of the Mexican Lg #Mets
related or even Mets related, but Mike Trout was pulled from his rehab start after just two innings on Tuesday and was sent back to CA to be re-evaluated.
What a disaster.
Has any player gone from HOF lock trending to the conversation for GOAT to washed up, career possibly over, albatross contract as fast at such a relatively young age?
He's still *just* 32.
Barry Bonds, for example, had over 350 HR's after turning 32.
What do the Angels do with Trout? What can they do? Just hope he gets healthy? try and trade him? Would there be a market?
J-Rod doubles. 1-4, 2b, 2 SB's. As I said the other day, his end of the season numbers will be more "solid" than outstanding but considering his age (just turned 18) a very productive 2024 #Mets
J-Rod doubles. 1-4, 2b, 2 SB's. As I said the other day, his end of the season numbers will be more "solid" than outstanding but considering his age (just turned 18) a very productive 2024 #Mets
exactly right. had he continued on his early season pace and gotten promoted before turning 18, that would have been phenom stuff. sucks he cooled off but all things considered he's still a great get for Pham and one of the highest upside prospects they have.
if i had to choose 1 out of him vs acuna that would be a tough choice.
Henriquez on base 3 times today. My rough math has him finishing 2nd in the FCL in OBP (.463) to Red Sox SS Franklin Arias (currently .471) (Arias is having an absurd season FWIW) #Mets
@mets have signed 2 new pitchers. 19 year old Danny Portel (LHP, big boy 6'4" 224) and 19 year old Franklin Arciniegas both have been assigned to DSL Mets Orange #Mets
St. Lucie Mets transferred RHP Ernesto Mercedes to the Development List. Mercedes has a killer slider but has now walked *60* over 65 innings (89 k's). Remains one to watch, extremely poor command and all (21 for the entire 2025 season) #Mets
“We knew that the Mets liked me because their area scout had come to most of my high school games,” Hampson added.
It’s Hampson’s strong right arm that seems to interest MLB scouts the most. His fastball has been clocked at above 90 miles per hour; he also throws a curveball and a splitter.
Despite all the attention, Hampson was never really sure if one of the 30 major league teams would draft him. Hampson had earlier made a commitment to play college baseball at the University of Oregon and then changed his plans to begin his collegiate career locally and attend Everett Community College starting in September.
In early July, Hampson joined the Wenatchee Applesox, a summer amateur baseball league team to help keep his skills sharp in preparation for his time in the collegiate ranks.
But everything changed last week when he was the 533rd overall pick in the 2024 MLB draft. He packed up his summer gear, headed home to Mill Creek for some final goodbyes with friends and family, then flew to Florida for two days of physicals with Mets trainers and the eventual signing of his rookie contract.
hopefully he can sustain it to finish the season. At least one of him and Houck need to not be a write off.
Hate to be a Debbie Downer but the k-rate remains scary for Parada 22/55 ab's in July. Obviously, it's nice seeing him hitting but a 40% k rate isn't going to work.
hopefully he can sustain it to finish the season. At least one of him and Houck need to not be a write off.
Hate to be a Debbie Downer but the k-rate remains scary for Parada 22/55 ab's in July. Obviously, it's nice seeing him hitting but a 40% k rate isn't going to work.
im expecting that if stearns shops in a tier above salary dump parada is one of the pieces in the deal. parada, ramirez, vasil/jarvis type of pu pu platter.
SF is starting to look like the team that i think best lines up with mets across a number of pitchers plus conforto. if i had to guess where the mets do some kind of bigger deal, that would be it. conforto + 1 of the rogers, and maybe even more than that.
unless the mets can find a way to get tanner scott, but id imagine someone like LAD will get aggressive there.
not sure if posted from yesterday but baty got robbed of homer
All in all, this has not been a strong month for @mets
farm system. Hopefully, August will be better. It will certainly be more interesting, with some new faces via the draft
Well earned promotion for Dakota Hawkins. Hawkins heads to @RumblePoniesBB after posting a 4.09 FIP over 66.1 innings with @BKCyclones. @mets signed Hawkins last season as a priority UDFA #Mets
@fangraphs top 103 prospect update
Sproat #22
Gilbert #51
Williams #63
J-Rod #81 #Mets
just cracked the top 10 in their latest board update. tampa gonna be insane if they also move fairbanks. im not even sure too many of the guys they got rate that well in this ranking bc morel is graduated and the rest seemed more like risers/fliers than highly ranked publicly.
With the FCL done are those players doing anything? Again so dumb they switched the season to start and end early. I'm guessing they have internal games but not the same.
With the FCL done are those players doing anything? Again so dumb they switched the season to start and end early. I'm guessing they have internal games but not the same.
Ramirez in July .180/.270/.270 and is now hitting an almost hard to believe .136/.250/.167 vs. lefties this season. He will either be DFA'ed or traded for a low level prospect further away in the off-season (if he's not DFA'ed before then).
has been a very poor month overall for the Mets farm system, very few bright spots. Hopefully, August is better. Some new faces getting a look, players like Gilbert/Reimer getting comfortable etc
The K rate probably hurts his chances of a call up
It's right on the cusp. If anything I would have thought it could be for Stewart but since we made the Winker deal I don't see it happening at this point anyway.
Looks like Vargas played yesterday so that's good. Hopefully no more injuries.
Reimer timeline was wrong unless he had a setback. Will we see Gilbert this month?
Looks like Vargas played yesterday so that's good. Hopefully no more injuries.
Reimer timeline was wrong unless he had a setback. Will we see Gilbert this month?
Reimer's hammy was revealed to be a tear, probably pretty bad. Gilbert they claim mid July
.203 / .400 / .609 (1.009 ops), 8 homers, 4 2bs, 18 rbis, more walks (21) than k's (18)
Acuna =
.298 / .348 / .413 (761 ops), 2nd straight month with 7 xbh
Clifford looking more and more like a higher end Duda and Acuna looks like something Andres Gimenez-ish. He's probably a better athlete but probably not quite as good instincts. Should be a useful player this year for big club though even if it's a smaller role at some point (pinch runner, defense).
I posted this on the end of the June Minors thread. I think it might be worth re-posting as we start July.
Acuna played CF, went 1 for 3 and his hard-hit single drove in the tying run in the top of the 8th.
Baty, batting 2nd, went 0 for 3 with a K, against the same BUF pitcher (Sanchez) the Mets roughed up last Tuesday, this time he held the Mets to 1 hit over 7 innings.
Baty played 2B and his error in the bottom of the 8th opened the flood gates for a 5 run uprising to clinch the loss.
Why is Baty playing 2B ? He should be in a corner OF spot.
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I posted this on the end of the June Minors thread. I think it might be worth re-posting as we start July.
Acuna played CF, went 1 for 3 and his hard-hit single drove in the tying run in the top of the 8th.
Baty, batting 2nd, went 0 for 3 with a K, against the same BUF pitcher (Sanchez) the Mets roughed up last Tuesday, this time he held the Mets to 1 hit over 7 innings.
Baty played 2B and his error in the bottom of the 8th opened the flood gates for a 5 run uprising to clinch the loss.
Why is Baty playing 2B ? He should be in a corner OF spot.
Baty belongs at 3B and in LF. Left field would be a nice alternative spot for him when he's not playing 3B.
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I posted this on the end of the June Minors thread. I think it might be worth re-posting as we start July.
Acuna played CF, went 1 for 3 and his hard-hit single drove in the tying run in the top of the 8th.
Baty, batting 2nd, went 0 for 3 with a K, against the same BUF pitcher (Sanchez) the Mets roughed up last Tuesday, this time he held the Mets to 1 hit over 7 innings.
Baty played 2B and his error in the bottom of the 8th opened the flood gates for a 5 run uprising to clinch the loss.
Why is Baty playing 2B ? He should be in a corner OF spot.
Baty belongs at 3B and in LF. Left field would be a nice alternative spot for him when he's not playing 3B.
A healthy Starling Marte ain't walking thru that door any time soon. Baty's path back to the Bigs is in the OF, he's now blocked in the infield by 3 or 4 good players.
@bkfan09
Jeremy Rodriguez in May
18G 75 AB .360/.435/.547
Jeremy Rodriguez in June
19G 72 AB .181/.234/.222
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Syracuse at Buffalo Sunday June 30th --
I posted this on the end of the June Minors thread. I think it might be worth re-posting as we start July.
Acuna played CF, went 1 for 3 and his hard-hit single drove in the tying run in the top of the 8th.
Baty, batting 2nd, went 0 for 3 with a K, against the same BUF pitcher (Sanchez) the Mets roughed up last Tuesday, this time he held the Mets to 1 hit over 7 innings.
Baty played 2B and his error in the bottom of the 8th opened the flood gates for a 5 run uprising to clinch the loss.
Why is Baty playing 2B ? He should be in a corner OF spot.
Baty belongs at 3B and in LF. Left field would be a nice alternative spot for him when he's not playing 3B.
A healthy Starling Marte ain't walking thru that door any time soon. Baty's path back to the Bigs is in the OF, he's now blocked in the infield by 3 or 4 good players.
True Dat
@AnthonyDiComo
Mike Vasil has leapfrogged Christian Scott in the Triple-A Syracuse rotation, starting tonight in what would normally be Scott's spot. Seems like a pretty good indication that we'll see Scott this week.
The Mets have a TBA in their rotation on Wednesday.
@AnthonyDiComo
Mike Vasil has leapfrogged Christian Scott in the Triple-A Syracuse rotation, starting tonight in what would normally be Scott's spot. Seems like a pretty good indication that we'll see Scott this week.
The Mets have a TBA in their rotation on Wednesday.
Great! I thought at first Quintana would pitch on Wednesday, but the Mets haven't announced their starting pitchers for both Wednesday and Thursday. Quintana's gonna pitch one of those days. Now it makes sense to have Quintana pitch on Thursday (July 4th) at the odd 11 am start time that day instead of the rookie. Make things as comfy as possible for C. Scott on Wednesday and then send him down again for bullpen help after the game so the Mets can manage the last two games of the Diaz suspension before Mr. Sticky Fingahz makes his return on Saturday.
@AbbeyMastracco
Brandon Nimmo slipped and fell last night at the team hotel in DC and cut his forehead. He spent the morning at the hospital but tests were negative for a concussion.
Christian Scott will take Tylor Megill’s spot in the Mets rotation.
@NYPost_Mets
It will be Christian Scott for Wednesday’s start. Mets officials are discussing the possibility of Jose Butto for the bullpen - in a multi-inning role so he can stay somewhat stretched out if needed for starting duty.
Definitely doesn't seem like a Brian Leetch cab/ice incident, but I'm always wondering the real story when grown men or women fall.
whoa didnt realize we were up to rehab starts. almost seems like 2nd half was always the plan.
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whoa didnt realize we were up to rehab starts. almost seems like 2nd half was always the plan.
Still is. Second half starts 7/19, he's not going to be back before then, he's probably going to take the full 30 days. No chance he's back before the second half.
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whoa didnt realize we were up to rehab starts. almost seems like 2nd half was always the plan.
Still is. Second half starts 7/19, he's not going to be back before then, he's probably going to take the full 30 days. No chance he's back before the second half.
didnt mean to imply otherwise.
i think through all the rehab starts/stops it appears that was always the target both sides were comfortable with. minimum amount of pitching this year to get him to next year with a chance to hit that innings number.
@NYPost_Mets
It will be Christian Scott for Wednesday’s start. Mets officials are discussing the possibility of Jose Butto for the bullpen - in a multi-inning role so he can stay somewhat stretched out if needed for starting duty.
With Met starters (Petersen, Quintana) routinely going 4 or 5 innings, Houser and Butto seem a better option than stitching together 4 or 5 innings and totally blowing your bullpen for the next day.
I wonder if starters or relievers have pitched more innings for the Mets this year....likely starters, but I bet it's close
Have I mentioned recently that Tom Seaver had 231 career complete games; 19 in one season?
Boy, the game has changed....
someone like Reed Garrett is because they've had no depth at the back end of the BP with Raley injured, Otto sucking, lopez DFA'd, Diaz inj/sucking/suspended.
Made me look good lol
7 inn
4 H
2 ER
1 BB
11 K
Pipeline did a re-rank of the top 100 and they put him in at 98 now. Should probably be even higher. Mets have 6 players in that ranking now.
31 Jett Williams
39 Christian Scott
40 Drew Gilbert
72 Ryan Clifford
93 Luisangel Acuna
98 Brandon Sproat
Vasil went 6 innings with 3K's and 1 walk. He had trouble in the 3rd inning with the bottom of Worcester Red Sox order.
He got two strikes on 2 batters.....but he hit the first guy in the jaw with a pitch and that might have affected Vasil because he walked the next batter on a 3-2 count. He gave up a couple hard-hit balls to the top of the order, and found himself on the short end of a 3 to 1 score.
His teammates tied the score in the 5th to take him off the hook. But I was a little concerned with the way he couldn't put away the bottom of the order after getting 2 strikes on the batters.
Hitters are more selective at AAA, they don't chase borderline pitches. All part of the learning curve, I guess.
guess they made the right call not promoting j-rod.
Awesome! The way he's going, he'll be a part of the starting rotation in Flushing by 2026 (at the latest).
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Awesome! The way he's going, he'll be a part of the starting rotation in Flushing by 2026 (at the latest).
Barring injury, he should be an option for the Mets rotation early 2025.
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Awesome! The way he's going, he'll be a part of the starting rotation in Flushing by 2026 (at the latest).
Barring injury, he should be an option for the Mets rotation early 2025.
We've got good times coming. This organization has a tradition of producing fine starting pitching. I loved what I saw from Scott and am super excited to see Sproat. I ws reading the article from MMO below about him:
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@NYMhistory
7/2/2018 The Mets sign 16-year-old catcher Francisco Álvarez. Álvarez receives a $2.7 million signing bonus, the largest payout given to an international prospect in team history.
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7/2/2018 The Mets sign 16-year-old catcher Francisco Álvarez. Álvarez receives a $2.7 million signing bonus, the largest payout given to an international prospect in team history.
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Money well spent.
He rubbed a little dirt on it and got right back down in his stance.
I say a prayer to Jerry Grote for Frankie's long and healthy career.
Arguably the best CU in the organization (certainly top 5). Not a hard thrower, likely RP but I like him
Don't bother looking up Dom Hamel's pitching line. Last night he went 4.2 innings and gave up 7 ER and 3 homers.
Oh those base-on-balls.....still a problem for Dom.
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Don't bother looking up Dom Hamel's pitching line. Last night he went 4.2 innings and gave up 7 ER and 3 homers.
Oh those base-on-balls.....still a problem for Dom.
I was going to mention it. I really think it's time to pull the plug and start giving him time in the pen where his stuff could play up better in shorter stints. He's already 25.
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Wenninger with a really good start as well.
Don't bother looking up Dom Hamel's pitching line. Last night he went 4.2 innings and gave up 7 ER and 3 homers.
Oh those base-on-balls.....still a problem for Dom.
I was going to mention it. I really think it's time to pull the plug and start giving him time in the pen where his stuff could play up better in shorter stints. He's already 25.
Fair point
@mikemayer22
The latest Baseball America Top 100 MLB prospects update:
22. Christian Scott
36. Jett Williams
64. Drew Gilbert
65. Ronny Mauricio
85. Blade Tidwell
86. Brandon Sproat
to see if either one of them is a viable option out of the bullpen (in Syracuse)
this season
@jjcoop36
There are 19 Hall of Famers who were prospect-eligible in the BA Top 100 era (1990-2024). Of those, 17 were Top 100 Prospects. We didn't get the two relievers (Hoffman and Rivera).
@jjcoop36
Looking ahead. The next group of likely HoFers are Ichiro and CC Sabathia. Both were Top 10 in the Top 100.
Next possible HoFers? Billy Wagner, Andruw Jones Buster Posey, Carlos Beltran, Yadier Molina, Miguel Cabrera, Chase Utley.
We missed on Molina. Rest were Top 100.
I think Scott can be a top of the rotation type of SP.
@Mets_Minors
Roster moves:
RHP Jeffrey Colon promoted to Double-A
RHP Justin Jarvis promoted to Triple-A
to see if either one of them is a viable option out of the bullpen (in Syracuse)
As far as Hamel goes (and Vasil for that matter) I think they need a 'put-away' pitch. Far too often they get 2 strikes on a batter.....and give then give up a hit or a walk. They could use the services of a good pitching coach.
September call up for some quality time with Hefner would help.
Verified
@WillSammon
Outfielder Trayce Thompson has been released from his contract with Triple-A Syracuse, the club announced.
rc 140
.271/.356/.547 (903 ops)
16 homers/11 2b = 12.5% xbh
8% walk rate, 24% k-rate
.276 iso, .298 babip
here is clifford now in 168 plate appearances at AA:
rc 128
.195/.353/.466 (819 ops)
9 homers/9 2b = 13.7% xbh
18% walk rate, 27% k-rate
.275 iso, .205 babip
his ISO and OBP are almost identical in both so overall it looks a lot he's the same overall effectiveness, just adjusted to a stronger league a year later.
the good = XBH% and walk rate both up against better comp
the not great = fewer singles, more K's
could be bad luck (low babip) or could be a swing more boom or bust. also likely some impact from taking so many walks and presumably not swinging a lot more often. the exta power and walks are fine, but they push his profile a little more in the duda direction. id actually prefer fewer walks but better contact numbers. id like to see him hit .250+ over the 2nd half of the year in AA even if power/walks come down slightly.
rc 140
.271/.356/.547 (903 ops)
16 homers/11 2b = 12.5% xbh
8% walk rate, 24% k-rate
.276 iso, .298 babip
here is clifford now in 168 plate appearances at AA:
rc 128
.195/.353/.466 (819 ops)
9 homers/9 2b = 13.7% xbh
18% walk rate, 27% k-rate
.275 iso, .205 babip
his ISO and OBP are almost identical in both so overall it looks a lot he's the same overall effectiveness, just adjusted to a stronger league a year later.
the good = XBH% and walk rate both up against better comp
the not great = fewer singles, more K's
could be bad luck (low babip) or could be a swing more boom or bust. also likely some impact from taking so many walks and presumably not swinging a lot more often. the exta power and walks are fine, but they push his profile a little more in the duda direction. id actually prefer fewer walks but better contact numbers. id like to see him hit .250+ over the 2nd half of the year in AA even if power/walks come down slightly.
Clifford 3/3 tonight so far with a double.
Sproat through 5 so far giving up 1 run.
mikey
@mjd_analysis
Brandon Sproat might be insane
Sproat 2 ER over 6.2 IP. 3 H 2 BB 9 K.
@mets
add another. Brooklyn Cyclones placed SS Jesus Baez on the 7-day injured list.
Still 20 years old!....until 7/20.
That's correct. I don't think people realized his age and how young he was for the league. His wRC+ before tonight's game is already away above average.
Excuse me. Waiver claim
Former @mets minor leaguer LHP Matt Gage Extremely small sample size but 50% GB% over 6.2 innings this season, 51.6% in 2022 (13 innings). Lefties against him (.105/.320/.105). Astros connection. @mets should be interested #Mets
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Interesting! I wonder if they're eyeing up someone like Brody Brecht then. Huge FB/SL combo.
Jett Williams part 2 and a speedster. Wouldn't hate either but would probably prefer Caldwell out of the 2.
FU question for the minors experts...any chance Mis debuts this year?
FU question for the minors experts...any chance Mis debuts this year?
Drafted in 2022 so yes.
He could be up but I'd say no at this point. He's still walking way too many guys.
this got me curious about brewers FO, their scouting director since 2016 has been a guy named Tod Johnson who was at the time internally promoted scouting director. he is still currently their VP of domestic scouting so i guess they are happy enough with him. other than what looks like a really bad 2017 his first 5 years first round picks were ok - Hiura (17), Lutz (17sup), Turang (18), Small (19), Mitchell (20), Black (20 sup), Frelick (21). 2 are regulars, 3 on active roster, seems like black is close and a consensus top 100.
Johnson, 43, takes over administration of the Draft from Ray Montgomery, who will have broader responsibilities as vice president of scouting. Pro scouting director Zack Minasian is moving into an advisory role within the department.
"I think it's a re-evaluation on the whole of our scouting group, and trying our best to put our skill sets in the right spots," said general manager David Stearns, who inherited all three men from the Brewers' previous front-office regime. "A year into this, I've had the opportunity to learn a lot about our staff. I'm frankly very pleased with what I've seen."
That is reflected, Stearns said, by the fact Johnson emerged from a field of seven internal and external candidates for the amateur scouting director vacancy. Johnson is in his ninth season in Milwaukee's front office, the past six as assistant amateur scouting director. His media guide bio says part of Johnson's job was working with the baseball research and development department to set the direction for the usage of data and technology in baseball operations -- in other words, using objective metrics to evaluate amateur players in addition to the traditional scouting methods.
Johnson worked in Silicon Valley for a dozen years before joining the Brewers as an "application developer" in 2007, and he went to scout school in '08, according to a Baseball America story from '12. Johnson left the Brewers in '10 to serve as baseball systems architect for the Padres, then returned the following season as assistant amateur scouting director.
"When you go through a process like this and one of the in-house people proves to be the best fit, I think it's a good moment for the organization as a whole," Stearns said.
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Lutz lasted in the Brewers system until 2023 and was released and has since retired
Small was traded to the Giants for cash and is a 27 year old minor leaguer
Huira was the 9th pick in the draft, career 2.5 fWAR, now with his 4th organization (28 later this month
Turang is obviously a good player (or at least he has been this season so far, awful last year in his rookie year)
Mitchell is a soon to be 26 year old extra OF for the Brewers
Frelick is solid but nothing special, career 94 wRC+
And Tyler Black is a good/solid prospect
turang is probably currently the best player out of that group and frelick looks probably as likely as pca/baty/kelenic to work out.
those werent exceptionally good years by the mets but i dont think they were exceptionally bad either. we know the guys who ran the mets drafts in those years had a very good track record on that decade. i think both groups are currently probably somewhere in a league average range in terms of productivity though it's still early enough someone could break out and change things (i.e. if baty ends up the next bohm in a couple years, that will change things a lot).
"The Brewers have had some recent success stories from the draft and there’s plenty of time in some other cases for development, but generally speaking, the draft was not one of Stearns’ biggest strengths during his successful tenure with the club."
Remember, Sammon actually covered the Brewers 2018-2021.
Here he is talking about Stearns when he took the job covering the Mets, praising how much he learned from Stearns.
Gross joined the team’s scouting staff in 2012. The Astros have since drafted and signed a major-league-high 64 players who appeared in the big leagues either with Houston or another club.
Several in the industry believe the Mets might do a blend of what Houston and Milwaukee have valued in recent years. Mostly, that means explosive athletes with big tools and pitchers with electric raw stuff.
I would not be surprised if Tanous is let go following this season given what I've also been hearing on the IFA side ("major changes coming")
Rodriguez now 1-3
Sproat #23 AA SP? Loses a lot of credibility there.
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Sproat #23 AA SP? Loses a lot of credibility there.
It's by the numbers.
"As a reminder, the RoboScore is the value (0 to 100) assigned per level by RoboScout based on 2024 statistical performance and projecting fantasy value (without considering defensive position or ability). The RoboCast number is the RoboScore but with statcast blended in and then transformed to the 0 to 100 scale."
Sproat 78 roboscore, 76 robocast.
I actually missed Jarvis who came in at 22
"Another pitcher who has eschewed walks in the summer, is Justin Jarvis (Mets) who has only allowed 3% of batters over his last 31 innings to reach base by way of a base on balls. With a 30% strikeout rate over that span, it seems that hitters have had trouble with his fastball/cutter mix – which, together, make up over 83% of the pitches he’s thrown. It’s a starter’s mix and he has shown good pitchability – but it might not be enough to get him much further than the back of a rotation."
Scouting Grades Fastball: 55 | Curveball: 45 | Slider: 55 | Changeup: 60 | Control: 50
Scouting Grades Fastball: 55 | Curveball: 45 | Slider: 55 | Changeup: 60 | Control: 50
I think those grades always lag.
By the numbers you'd still think Sproat would be higher but interesting none the less.
"The Brewers have had some recent success stories from the draft and there’s plenty of time in some other cases for development, but generally speaking, the draft was not one of Stearns’ biggest strengths during his successful tenure with the club."
Remember, Sammon actually covered the Brewers 2018-2021.
Here he is talking about Stearns when he took the job covering the Mets, praising how much he learned from Stearns.
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For the past three seasons, I covered the Milwaukee Brewers for The Athletic. For professional and personal reasons, I loved Milwaukee. I met my girlfriend, Daniela, in Milwaukee; of course, she was a Brewers fan on vacation from the Northeast and we met near the large glove and the replica racing sausages. It’s where I lived during some of the most historic moments of our country’s recent history. After five years covering college football, the Brewers were my first baseball beat. The players, the fans, the media and those who worked in the organization often made my gig feel exactly what I figured it’d be in February 2020: a dream job. Every day, I had the opportunity to learn more about the game I grew up loving. And no one taught me more than Craig Counsell and David Stearns, two of the smarter minds in baseball. In switching beats at The Athletic to the Mets, I get to take my experiences covering an MLB team and apply them to the largest media market, join the talented Tim Britton and cover one of baseball’s most exciting teams. I also get to come home.
i dont think stearns would disagree with any of that, thats presumably why he interviewed 7 different people and promoted someone new to run their drafts in his first year in MIL. it appears to me that their hit rate since that change relative to the mets isn't so bad, though it's still early.
obviously tramuta has already moved on and there have been endless changes to the mets FO from 2019-2024, but as of 2019 when BA wrote this article they'd drafted/developed the 5th most war of any other org in the 2010's decade. it's still early even for 2020 picks like PCA so as we know it takes a while to put together any sort of comprehensive analysis of drafts. these 2010-2019 ranks are likely very different today than 5 years ago and will continue to change 5 years into the future as players like nimmo, lugo, alonso, vientos, baty, peterson, etc evolved/continue to evolve over their careers.
it may be easy to call out bad drafts if guys are already busted out of baseball but longer term it's really hard. nimmo was a punchline for like 6-7 years post-draft.
Ranking Every MLB Team’s Draft Performance In The 2010s - ( New Window )
There are 583 draftees on Opening Day active rosters (74.8% of the total number of players on rosters), so the average team will produce 19.4 big leaguers. Any club with more than that is above average. Anyone below that is below average.
The Mets had 11, the Brewers 14 (tied with Oakland)
Dodgers 29, Padres 28, Cardinals 27, Astros 26... notice there sure seems to be a correlation with successful franchises
I flubbed that one. Robert Gasser was of course a major part of the Hader trade. The Brewers actually don't have a single pitcher on their roster that has posted positive fWAR that they drafted. It's actually remarkable how good they are at what they do despite the weak drafts. Quietly excellent IFA program and their FO is quietly one of the most advanced in all of baseball. Easier said than done when every team now employs X analysts.
nimmo, mcneil, lugo, conforto types sure but it goes back even farther.
matz and mitch hanniger from 2009 are on that list and at that point stearns was closer to being omar's intern than milwaukee gm.
stearns may have found the right guy to run those mil drafts in 2017 and started fixing the problem or maybe they didn't, im just pointing out that i think its hard to judge because of how much time goes into some of these draft metrics. tbh i think that's why i have a hard time focusing the draft too deeply in general. hit rates are so low the entire event is just unfathomably hard to predict.
im sure ill get excited about whoever the mets pick this year but realistically it's just a fill in the blanks for what will probably end up 2-3 names of a struggling young players most will be complaining about in 5-6 years like baty right now. in the half decade since his draft i cant tell you if he's dom smith or alec bohm. neither outcome would surprise me much (and most likely he'll end up somewhere in between).
DH and being 5.
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DH and being 5.
Grr. Batting 5th.
kind of amzing jett is still younger than both too. missing this year sucks but it may not end up the worst thing to delay his MLB service time by 1 year staggered a little more from lindor/acuna/mauricio. crazy how good that pick looks relative to how bad parada looks.
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Things change but the original plan was for him to make 5 rehab starts.
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Interesting! I wonder if they're eyeing up someone like Brody Brecht then. Huge FB/SL combo.
Other than being a pitcher with the inherent injury risk, is Brecht really seen as a riskier pitch? IMO, he looks like a very safe pick for a pitcher at that point in the draft.
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From Sammons notes Stearns lack of draft success in Milwaukee, Gross’s strength in the draft with Houston and the fact the Mets may go with higher upside/riskier picks this year.
Interesting! I wonder if they're eyeing up someone like Brody Brecht then. Huge FB/SL combo.
Other than being a pitcher with the inherent injury risk, is Brecht really seen as a riskier pitch? IMO, he looks like a very safe pick for a pitcher at that point in the draft.
I was going with the higher upside not the risk part. Since he was splitting time some think he's no where near his ceiling.
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Some names that have been connected to @mets (by others, not by Law) Caldwell #12, Brecht 16, King 17, Benge 18, Lindsay 22 #Mets
Bring him up for Stewart or Gamel please.
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The Mets have acquired Phil Maton from the Rays for cash or a player to be named later. They have designated Joey Lucchesi for assignment.
my guess is he asked for his release or they just did him a kindness bc they felt vasil/butto/etc have passed him. he's always seemed to have a bit of an odd ball personality, obviously they were ready to move on.
Kodai went 2.2 innings, threw 52 pitches/30 for strikes. He finished up with 3 K's and 2 BB. Radio guy was reading the ballpark radar gun at 93-95. The Ghost-fork was really working.
I think Senga ran out of gas in the third inning....he walked the last 2 batters he faced after getting 2 strikes on them.
Some names that have been connected to @mets (by others, not by Law) Caldwell #12, Brecht 16, King 17, Benge 18, Lindsay 22 #Mets
related to Desmond Lindsay? I had such high hopes, lol.
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related to Desmond Lindsay? I had such high hopes, lol.
No relation. Two sport kid with legitimate 80 speed, major, major late helium
Consistently injured. Played 260 games over 6 seasons
I get Mets fans are looking for options to upgrade on McNeil/Stewart/etc, and Acuña is one of the Mets only upper level prospects healthy, but he hasn't shown anything to suggest he's close to MLB-ready.”
I get Mets fans are looking for options to upgrade on McNeil/Stewart/etc, and Acuña is one of the Mets only upper level prospects healthy, but he hasn't shown anything to suggest he's close to MLB-ready.”
I was on IG Mets yesterday, and there is just such a misconception out there that Acuna is ready to come up. So many uninformed fans demanding Stearns makes the call to bring him up. Its obnoxious.
There is absolutely nothing in his numbers that suggests he's ready to help a big league team offensively and it's questionable development-wise if it makes sense to have him play sporadically as a bench piece right now. Logic would suggest a 7.0% BB rate in AAA is going to look pretty ugly right now with the big club. Somebody like Ritter or Brosseau likely should be the next man up for now.
and his name is Ace.
and his name is Ace.
I just saw he went viral, I think he's actually 6'8"! (video below) admittedly, I had never heard of him previously but have to like those bloodlines
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He turned 21 in June, sitting 92-95 and touching 97 with ELITE FB shape. He's not a top 100 prospect (yet). Who is overrating him exactly? He throws just as hard as Christian Scott, in fact Sproat is probably the only SP in the system that throws significantly harder than Tong, who is 2+ years younger than most "higher ranked" arms in the system.
If he’s on the roster, he’s going to have to play every once in a while, but I hope we NEVER have to see him in the middle of the lineup again.
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If he’s on the roster, he’s going to have to play every once in a while, but I hope we NEVER have to see him in the middle of the lineup again.
Pretty bizarre at this point. 1. Stearns has had a quick trigger overall 2. Stearns values defense 3. He has an option left, not even a "forever" decision.
Since 9/1-2023, DJ Stewart 86 games played .180/.312/.318 (89 wRC+), negative 0.2 fWAR
Played for College of Charleston Cougars and showed well in the NCAA Tournament. Won many accolades for the Cougs. He had eligibility left when he graduated in 2023, so he went to U of Kentucky as a Grad Student. And put in a good season in 2024.
Kid's got size at 6' 4" and 200 lbs. Is he on any of the pre-draft lists ??
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Played for College of Charleston Cougars and showed well in the NCAA Tournament. Won many accolades for the Cougs. He had eligibility left when he graduated in 2023, so he went to U of Kentucky as a Grad Student. And put in a good season in 2024.
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Did not make BA's top 500 draft eligible players (I just checked, I obviously didn't memorize it)
Hit .393/.533/.900 this season, yes, he slugged .900. 54 walks/38 k's
I think he is way overrated. Has to prove it for an additional full year. Needs to average 94 on the fastball and consistently hit 97-98 to be considered anything more than a Tylor Megill type.
There is absolutely nothing in his numbers that suggests he's ready to help a big league team offensively and it's questionable development-wise if it makes sense to have him play sporadically as a bench piece right now. Logic would suggest a 7.0% BB rate in AAA is going to look pretty ugly right now with the big club. Somebody like Ritter or Brosseau likely should be the next man up for now.
the amount he can/cant help the big league team offensively depends on who he ends up getting at bats over. if it's stewart/mcneil/gamel it's not that high of a bar.
the amount he could help them defensively could be worth it as it has been with iglesias, and while he's passed the eye test iglesias' defensive numbers arent even that good. he is -2 OAA with a 5th percentile arm. iglesias has obviously hit way beyond expectations but he's 34 and never hit much, so id prefer him as a nice bench/depth piece than counting on him as the every day 2b.
acuna could very well come up and not hit at all right now but i think he'd learn something new, and hopefully hed be able to take that back to AAA with him so whenever the next call up comes he's better prepared. players at AAA are always 1 injury away.
I think he is way overrated. Has to prove it for an additional full year. Needs to average 94 on the fastball and consistently hit 97-98 to be considered anything more than a Tylor Megill type.
97 once?
"The 6-foot-1 hurler throws directly over the top, and that delivery helps him get elite ride on his four-seam fastball. The offering sits 92-94 mph, topping out at 97, and averaged 20.6 inches of induced vertical break, tops among any pitcher that threw a fastball in the FSL. Tong can also snap off a mid-80s curveball that plays well off the verticality of the fastball, and his tight mid-80s slider can also get whiffs. Tong has an 84-86 mph changeup for use against lefties, but that’s a work in progress even though he’s dominated early on in 2024.
Tong experienced control issues in 2022 and 2023 but looked like he ironed those out early on in St. Lucie this spring, in part because he was getting so much swing-and-miss above the zone where he needs to live to dominate. It’s worth monitoring how his walk rate is affected by facing more patient hitters at the upper levels, but there’s no doubting he’s on a path to being a Mets development win."-Pipeline
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When you get that much ride, velocity doesn’t matter, but Tong is averaging a very respectable albeit slightly below-average 92.7 mph. However, he’s been as high as 97.2 mph, indicating two very positive things: First, he’s pitching well below his max, suggesting he might be less of an injury risk, as he’s not pitching at max effort. Second, he has the potential to sit 95 mph or above, assuming natural growth and maturation. Performance can often be misleading at the lower levels of the minors. However, when you combine elite traits with a 47% whiff rate (in zone and out of zone, righties and lefties), along with a monstrous 20.3% swinging strike rate (against both righties and lefties), it’s basically checking every single pitch quality box you can ask for.
Christian Scott's average FB velocity is 94.3 and he's 4 years older than Tong.
And I ask again, who is "overrating" him? He's a top 15 prospect in the Mets system
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on the year .157/.252/.220... what if I told you he's been promoted to @BKCyclones
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Jennie is 6' and Casey is 6'-6".
It is not surprising that their son is a pitcher
13 pitchers in the SAL 21 or younger
Tong 4th in K/9, 4th in era, 2nd in FIP, 2nd in xFIP, 3rd in k%, 2nd in average against and he just turned 21. He will be 21 until mid-season 2025.
"hoped" for a mid-July return for Drew Gilbert... might we see him soon? or another timeline pushback?
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ops up to .923, batting avg up to .230. ive compared him to duda a lot, duda didnt get to AA until age 23 and when he got there he ops'd 808.
even compared to vientos/alvarez cliffords power at 20 years old for that level is kind of wow. vientos didnt get to AA until his age 21 because of the lost covid year and he ops'd 929. alvarez got there at 20 years old and he ops'd .922. mauricio got there at 20 and he ops'd 815 but only for 8 games. his next year there at 21 in a full sample he ops'd 767.
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ops up to .923, batting avg up to .230. ive compared him to duda a lot, duda didnt get to AA until age 23 and when he got there he ops'd 808.
even compared to vientos/alvarez cliffords power at 20 years old for that level is kind of wow. vientos didnt get to AA until his age 21 because of the lost covid year and he ops'd 929. alvarez got there at 20 years old and he ops'd .922. mauricio got there at 20 and he ops'd 815 but only for 8 games. his next year there at 21 in a full sample he ops'd 767.
Like I said he's my most interesting bat in system. Scouting reports underplay his power it seems. People forget he's only 20.
In that case they'll basically give him 3 inning stints to spread it out the rest of the season?
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been told Tong's innings limit is believe to be around 90, so that's roughly 18 innings left in his season
In that case they'll basically give him 3 inning stints to spread it out the rest of the season?
I don't know the actual "plan" but he's at 72 innings pitched... didn't debut in 2022 (his draft year), 21 innings last season. So he's at +51 innings on the season.
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been told Tong's innings limit is believe to be around 90, so that's roughly 18 innings left in his season
In that case they'll basically give him 3 inning stints to spread it out the rest of the season?
I don't know the actual "plan" but he's at 72 innings pitched... didn't debut in 2022 (his draft year), 21 innings last season. So he's at +51 innings on the season.
Yeah agreed with you it's coming up but was curious if they'll totally shut him down or try and let him push on regular rotation but in smaller doses.
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Last night he was 93-95,touched 96 a few times. FB has elite characteristics, ride shape, aka the type of fastball they used to say was a "rising" FB, it's the kind of FB that misses more bats than the pure velocity would suggest. His FB is already the type you can dream on (even without added velocity, which I do expect to come), the development of his secondaries will be the deciding factor (obviously health too)
The next Lincecum? Sign me up! He was a top 5 starter in his prime, his prime just happened to be short. That’s like saying he’s the next deGrom. I’ll take the upside and hope you can manage any injury risk.
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The next Lincecum? Sign me up! He was a top 5 starter in his prime, his prime just happened to be short. That’s like saying he’s the next deGrom. I’ll take the upside and hope you can manage any injury risk.
And another thing taking Twitter takes as gospel. Twitter has also been crying for the Mets to call up Acura NOW! Not everyone with a Twitter account knows baseball.
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The next Lincecum? Sign me up! He was a top 5 starter in his prime, his prime just happened to be short. That’s like saying he’s the next deGrom. I’ll take the upside and hope you can manage any injury risk.
He’s saying Mets twitter is too high on Tong with unrealistic expectations. The projected next Lincecum would be the current top P prospect in baseball easily.
Jett Williams isn’t going to be an OD option (would mean he skipped AA and AAA after missing an entire season) Gilbert likely remains a viable option assuming he’s back by August or so. Otherwise, no. They don’t have much in the way of MLB ready or close to MLB ready OFers. Ramirez has been awful
It's been explained to me Gilbert did indeed have 2 set backs. 1 not involving his hammy at all.
Yes! Stay healthy and hit please.
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Wrote about Brandon Nimmo, who has ..
0 ASG
0 Gold Gloves
0 Silver Sluggers
0 ROY votes
0 MVP votes
.. and, with 25 career WAR, is one of the most valuable "never placed anywhere in an award" players of the last century. And I looked!
Agreed especially considering his prospect status.
Very good point! Always forgetting about the PPI stuff.
Luis Acuna opened the bottom of the 7th with a single, stole 2nd (29th steal), and went to 3rd on a Wild Pitch, and then scored on another Wild Pitch by Phil Bickford. Tie Game.
Luke Ritter (playing LF) promptly drives in the winning run with a single.
on a scale from 1 to jett williams, would you be happy with benge? do you have any favorites this year?
Luis Acuna opened the bottom of the 7th with a single, stole 2nd (29th steal), and went to 3rd on a Wild Pitch, and then scored on another Wild Pitch by Phil Bickford. Tie Game.
Luke Ritter (playing LF) promptly drives in the winning run with a single.
i think the thing people miss with acuna right now is that speed and defense are huge aspects of baseball. always have been and with the rules they are even more.
PCA got called up by the cubs when he was not hitting very well at AAA. In the big leagues he has hit .200 with a 53 run created. but because he plays really good defense he's been worth .7 fwar. he's stolen 16 bases. which basically triple his number of xbh (which is just 8).
you know who wont be worth .7 fwar this year? DJ stewart or ben Gamel. DJ is actually -.1 and Mcneil is even worse. we can pray iglesius continues playing the way he is or that marte somehow comes back healthy and not terrible in RF, but id start making backup plans with acuna in case baty's defense at 2b is problematic. one of those plans would also be baty in the OF.
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on a scale from 1 to jett williams, would you be happy with benge? do you have any favorites this year?
Outstanding athlete but major concerns with how much power he'll hit for and his swing in general. I like him but would be concerned with the Mets being the team to make the necessary swing changes.
Personally Caldwell, Lindsay, Brecht, Seaver King if they really want a college bat in their range, Cijntje would probably be the players I'd most be happy with. Benge would be a quality addition to the organization.
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19. Mets — Kaelen Culpepper, SS, Kansas State
I’ve previously had Culpepper going in the supplemental round, but increasingly it seems like teams expect him to go in the first thanks to everyone scooping up college hitters. He has the advantage of profiling at shortstop—something none of the other college hitters in this range can claim except Seaver King—and has solid offensive tools, athleticism and big arm strength.
Carson Benge would make sense if he’s still on the board, and other hitters like Seaver King, Tommy White or Vance Honeycutt could bet a fit, as well. The Mets have targeted up-the-middle profiles in recent years, but under David Stearns perhaps their player preferences will now be more similar to what the Brewers have done.
Googled him -- Good Resume' and excellent name.
No Reimer either. Hopefully he's going to meet the Cyclones.
Daiverson has been solid so far in FCL which is good to see.
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19. Mets — Kaelen Culpepper, SS, Kansas State
I’ve previously had Culpepper going in the supplemental round, but increasingly it seems like teams expect him to go in the first thanks to everyone scooping up college hitters. He has the advantage of profiling at shortstop—something none of the other college hitters in this range can claim except Seaver King—and has solid offensive tools, athleticism and big arm strength.
Carson Benge would make sense if he’s still on the board, and other hitters like Seaver King, Tommy White or Vance Honeycutt could bet a fit, as well. The Mets have targeted up-the-middle profiles in recent years, but under David Stearns perhaps their player preferences will now be more similar to what the Brewers have done.
it seems like brewers under him took athletes who play defense and have that all around good intangibles thing (so i guess nimmo, jett williams and gilbert types). corey ray was their highest bonus over $4m and frelick was i think their second highest pick/bonus at $4m and he seems very similar to drew gilbert. turang is a great glove. mitchell looks to be playing mostly CF and has the "good command of strike zone" thing in his scouting reports.
hiurra was a bat to ball skills guy, he also got a $4m bonus, though his scouting report was a little more one dimensional. lutz seems like the only real power hitter profile they chose and he was a supp pick so his bonus was 2.3m. eric brown and tyler black got similar low 2m's signing bonuses. black sounds like a funky prospect. cant recall any other 1b prospect who stole 55 bases in any season even minors.
there are probably more clues in houston drafts than brewers drafts though. im sure stearns is involved but gross is probably equally if not more involved in developing the short list of guys they believe in.
I feel like there was always some concern with Frelick's power whereas for Gilbert not as much. I do agree it would be really disappointing if Gilbert showed up with that type of SLG over his first full season. There's also time for Frelick to at least start to life the ball a bit more.
reading gilbert's scouting report that's how i felt, and while his run in AA last year was super impressive he also had a really high BABIP. my expectation is he is more solid RF with a strong side platoon than star. maybe brett gardner-ish. if he can play plus D in center that raises the ceiling but it doesnt seem likely he's better in center long term than acuna or jett.
Saw that. Not a surprise one bit given Gross' success with the Astros
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Saw that. Not a surprise one bit given Gross' success with the Astros
Yup. Nothing new, just clarity from DiComo. It does make the “what Stearns did in Milwaukee via the draft…” less notable.
that makes sense, stearns' job is too big to be effective "running the show". im sure he and gross have alignment in what types of players they are looking for, and then it's basically gross' job to go out there and find it.
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Saw that. Not a surprise one bit given Gross' success with the Astros
Yup. Nothing new, just clarity from DiComo. It does make the “what Stearns did in Milwaukee via the draft…” less notable.
i would guess in Milwaukee he worked similarly, especially once Arnold ascended to GM he was probably pretty removed in terms of specific selections.
I think what we might see is anywhere there was overlap in the types of players Houston/Milwaukee tended toward, especially wherever successful, are the types of players we will see Gross/Stearns trying to find. But ultimately the board will fall how it falls so even that only goes so far.
He looked really good at 2B last year. They should have tried him at one or both of the corner OF spots. It's a little late now though with him being out injured for the year. I want him on this team, but a trade looks inevitable with the logjam we've go in the infield between himself, Baty, Acuna, and Jett. Mauricio and Baty will be ready to rock and roll next year (I'm assuming Baty will spend the rest of the season at Triple A based on the dynamic of things now with the big club).
Acuna will prolly be ready to be promoted to the show as well next season, but I could see them leaving him at Syracuse a lil while longer. Jett is prolly gonna play in the Arizona Fall League after he comes back form his injury and will start the season at either the Bing (AA) or at 'Cuse, depending on a whole bunch of factors. He ain't gonna be coming up to the show till 2026 IMO based on the dynamics of things personnel-wise as of now.
Now, ASSUMING Pete is re-signed (which is a BIG assumption right now), I would be fine with Baty and Vientos alternating between DH and 3B. I'd prefer Baty to play there defensively more than not, but that's a good combo IF Baty figures his $hit out and learns to launch the ball at Syracuse this year before coming back next year. I'm also assuming J.D. Martinez won't be back next year (sorry to say that).
Mauricio would look nice at 2B. He didn't embarrass himself there last year. Keep Jett in the minors till at least 2026. That leaves Acuna, who should be ready for the big club next year. I could one of Acuna or Mauricio going in a trade, particularly Acuna, for a corner OF, starting pitcher, or a first baseman if Pete leaves in free agency. If Pete's back I could even see the Mets making a play for a big-time reliever (perhaps Alexis Diaz). Let's see how things work themselves out because there will promise to be lots of moving parts this coming off-season.
Googled him -- Good Resume' and excellent name.
Georgia produces some good players. The Braves sure do love to mine their home state for talent. He'd be a good addition to the Mets' minor league cache of talent.
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thumbs up from me...
Vasil had a good start. He send to be turning things around a bit. Wonder if he switched something up.
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thumbs up from me...
Absolutely 100% from me. Like the separate draft thread
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Vasil had a good start. He send to be turning things around a bit. Wonder if he switched something up.
parada has hit for xbh most of his career so his carrying tool is still sort of carrying, or at least keeping him treading water.
the problem is it is carrying a lot of negative baggage with the contact problems and defense. though like you said those things appear to be somewhat improving and it is not abnormal for catchers to take longer.
i think he is clearly an interesting trade chip that a team searching for hitting upside in the upper minors could be tempted by. however long the odds are he is a solid powerball ticket.
i agree with this, though i also think the stats around this get taken out of context often mostly because they are new and not well publicized at the minor league level. im not saying they are wrong and i have seen the same reports, i just dont trust the amateur scouting community as being good at analyzing that type of data yet. im not even sure the teams are great at it yet and they are throwing millions of $ of analysis at it.
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@RumblePoniesBB Tyler Stuart (20/1 K/BB over his last 3 starts)
@BKCyclones Jonathan Pintaro
@stluciemets Franklin Gomez
He went 3.2 innings, gave up 3 hits, 3 Runs, 3 ER's 3 Walks, 3 K's, and 2 HR's. (Three's were wild yesterday, I guess).
On a more positive note, Luke Ritter continues doing Luke Ritter things. He plays a half dozen IF and OF positions. And he drove in 2 runs in a 7 -4 SYR victory over the Scrantons. He can take DJ Stewart's job.
Oh, and Matt Gage got the Save. Bring him up !!
I think it might be Mike Vasil's turn to start today, before the Minor League break.
Baty back at 3b, Acuna at 2b. Ugly July so far for Acuna (.408 OPS, 0 extra-base hits)
Vasil's line on Friday -- looked pretty good.
6.0 Innings, 6 Hits, 2 ER's, 0 Walks, 5 K's, 1 solo HR.
Glad he's cut down on the Walks.
SYR has a 1:05 start today. I'll listen to the first few innings on Senga Sunday.
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1st inning now against Scranton.
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Sproat threw a hitless and scoreless 3rd inning (12 pitches).
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1st inning now against Scranton.
Kodai in the 1st Inning -- Set 'em down in order with a K to finish it off.
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Sproat threw a hitless and scoreless 3rd inning (12 pitches). [/qYeuote]
Yes, I watched Sproat yesterday....'Composure' is the word that comes to mind. He mowed three AL kids down. Most pitchers got a single inning to show off. Some of the other guys on the NL team were not so smooth out there. Thomas White, the Marlin's LH pitcher got cuffed around soundly.
Acuna 0-1, Baty 0-1, Ritter BB
38 pitches facing the minimum thru 3 innings.
I didn't realize Luke was 27 years old....Bring him up.
Around 55 pitches is where he started to fade last start.
He's coming out now after 66 pitches, 40 strikes. K'd the last batter he faced. Big had from the fans at the SYR ballpark.
Agreed. Give him time. I'd be fine with him coming back the first week of August after the trade deadline passes on July 30th. Heps us to figure out the big-league roster too.
batting avg up to .242 ops up to .939. org was really lacking lefty power so could be a real nice complimentary piece in a 1b/DH/COF group.
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Ewing 1-2, 2 RBI, 2 BB
Stuart is a guy I'm pulling for. He's got dominant size, listed at 6' 9" and 250 lbs.....throws down-hill. That's the kind of look that can screw up the opposition's batting order for the next day.
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Not counting William Schmidt, 45 of our top 50 players on the final
@baseballpro
big board went on day 1.
Left out there for round 3:
Dakota Jordan (34)
Joey Oakie (43)
Sean Keys (45)
Mike Sirota (48)
Kavares Tears (50)
Jarrett Seidler
@jaseidler
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4m
Not counting William Schmidt, 45 of our top 50 players on the final
@baseballpro
big board went on day 1.
Left out there for round 3:
Dakota Jordan (34)
Joey Oakie (43)
Sean Keys (45)
Mike Sirota (48)
Kavares Tears (50)
and mets pick what 8th today? seems like a decent chance they can get another highish profile player. doesn't sound like either guy they pick has any kind of extreme hard to sign-ability but i guess we'll see.
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Jarrett Seidler
@jaseidler
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4m
Not counting William Schmidt, 45 of our top 50 players on the final
@baseballpro
big board went on day 1.
Left out there for round 3:
Dakota Jordan (34)
Joey Oakie (43)
Sean Keys (45)
Mike Sirota (48)
Kavares Tears (50)
and mets pick what 8th today? seems like a decent chance they can get another highish profile player. doesn't sound like either guy they pick has any kind of extreme hard to sign-ability but i guess we'll see.
Yes 82nd overall. Both players they picked will be signing.
Seems like a lot to give up for a rental. Maybe Morabito only.
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Mayer proposes trading Tyler Stuart and Nick Morabito for Jesse Winker
Seems like a lot to give up for a rental. Maybe Morabito only.
I feel the same way. If you liked Stuart in 2023 then you should still like him now. he's posting near identical numbers at a higher level. 2023 3.06 FIP/9.99 k/9, 2.74 BB/9 2024- 3.39 FIP, 9.81 K/9, 2.19 bb/9
I’d do Morabito and a lesser secondary piece.
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In comment 16554041 DanMetroMan said:
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Mayer proposes trading Tyler Stuart and Nick Morabito for Jesse Winker
Seems like a lot to give up for a rental. Maybe Morabito only.
I feel the same way. If you liked Stuart in 2023 then you should still like him now. he's posting near identical numbers at a higher level. 2023 3.06 FIP/9.99 k/9, 2.74 BB/9 2024- 3.39 FIP, 9.81 K/9, 2.19 bb/9
I’d do Morabito and a lesser secondary piece.
Something like Morabito and Wenninger I would be fine with
Bannon to the Twins, presumably for cash
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Mayer proposes trading Tyler Stuart and Nick Morabito for Jesse Winker
Seems like a lot to give up for a rental. Maybe Morabito only.
Morabito is all I'd do, and I prolly wouldn't even do that. Winker is a dog with a mit on and is an impending FA. You could convince me if he was better in the field, but man, he's turrible there, which is a shame cuz he'd be a great guy in one of the corner OF spots if he were just average. He's a left-handed hitter with pop who would do well here we all think. He's the type of player that would thrive in NYC IMO. Buffalo kid who digs the passionate vibes at Citi Field. He's an instant improvement over Stewart and Gamel. I have to admit that it's really tempting to trade for Winker, but the lack of defense makes me say no.
Love to see it from Sproat. Between Senga, Scott, and Sproat, I hope that is three rotation spots for next year.
Add in who Winker would be replacing. Can't count on Marte. They have Stewart and Gamel on the team (both poor fielders). Mets need an upgrade there. I'd rather see them keep Morabito for a Winker, but not going to lose sleep over it.
I'd try and send them Ramirez instead.
i have always liked winker though. if they think marte is out for the year or something i could maybe see it.
jmo but he's a non-premium enough asset that it's kind of impossible to say despite the good year.
is winker more comparable in value to canha who only returned jarvis? or pham, who brought back j-rod?
i think it could be either and it's probably more impacted by who else ends up on the market than winker himself. if bichette, chisholm, vlad jr, etc hit the market then winker probably ends up a less competitive player to trade for and a better chance he brings back a weak return. kind of like mancini in 2022.
i think he's right, though there's obviously differences in lowly ranked prospects. i dont even recall j-rod being on too many public rankings last year bc he was so young whereas coleman crow and jarvis were just because they were higher up.
my main point was just that most over 30's deadline rental journeyman types, even if having good years, dont always bring back good (let's say top 10) prospects. pham obviously did but i think that's the exception more than usual. if marte (115 rc) were healthy and the mets paid the full freight on his contract i was hoping for but not expecting to get back another j-rod.
That means Pete Alonso appears to be staying.
Hopefully Cuse for Gilbert and Brooklyn for Reimer. No more rehab.
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Day off again for Gilbert/Reimer. I'd be surprised if they play another game for @FCLMets. Question is are they headed to @stluciemets or @BKCyclones next? #Mets
Hopefully Cuse for Gilbert and Brooklyn for Reimer. No more rehab.
We'll see. Both are hitless (22 combined PA's). A stopover somewhere else wouldn't surprise me (Gilbert in particular).
I'd be opposed to trading Tyler Stuart, and if I did, I'd certainly want more than two months of Jesse Winker.
I believe there are better OF options at SYR right now, with more OF bats moving up thru the system.
And Stuart is worth holding and developing.
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opinion is that Winker (right now, aka not in a hypothetical world where he were a good defensive player) would cost the Mets 2 prospects in the 20-30 range which includes names like Tyler Stuart (who he suggested would go *with* Morabito, Jacob Reimer, Kade Morris, Yovanny Rodriguez, Alex Ramirez etc
I'd be opposed to trading Tyler Stuart, and if I did, I'd certainly want more than two months of Jesse Winker.
I believe there are better OF options at SYR right now, with more OF bats moving up thru the system.
And Stuart is worth holding and developing.
No disagreement here but I'd do Morabito for Winker without giving it much thought. Morabito barring significant power gains is a a 4th or 5th OFer and this team is in a playoff race.
1. Clifford 138
2. Gamel 135
3. Brosseau 134, Lorusso 134, Schwartz 134
6. Morabito 132
7. Hernandez 123
8. Baez 122
9. Juan 117
10. Cortes 116
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Day off again for Gilbert/Reimer. I'd be surprised if they play another game for @FCLMets. Question is are they headed to @stluciemets or @BKCyclones next? #Mets
Hopefully Cuse for Gilbert and Brooklyn for Reimer. No more rehab.
We'll see. Both are hitless (22 combined PA's). A stopover somewhere else wouldn't surprise me (Gilbert in particular).
I'm not sure they're looking at stats. Probably seeing if they stay healthy and get their work in but we shall see where they pop up.
But in my opinion, Big Stuart is a keeper.
And look at the progress from Gutierrez this year. These are young kids and a lot of them will not hit the ground running. I can't see Yovanny being included but an absolute huge name.
@mets
13th round pick @rjgordon_21
is already en route to St. Lucie
fitting on the minor league thread, because that's where he should be (to be clear not playing thread police at all)
But in my opinion, Big Stuart is a keeper.
Gotta hold onto Tyler Stuart. Trading him for Winker is some reverse Ed Hearn type $hit.
He belongs in the minors. Seeing him up with the big club still hurts. Ugh...
@stluciemets
(2.99 FIP, 13.06 k/9)
Eduardo Herrera (signed back in June) promoted to
@BKCyclones
(he’s posted a 0.84 era, 16.03 k/9 over his first 10.2 innings as a Met)
Dan was right. Gilbert and Reimer in St Lucie tonight.
Dan was right. Gilbert and Reimer in St Lucie tonight.
turns 21 today, where does he rank in the system right now? probably ahead of mauricio/acuna, has he bypassed gilbert? they may be teammates soon and he's almost 3 full years younger.
with gilbert not playing, i think it's more a question of style preference than talent scouting.
21 year old with massive power closing in on AAA or more well-rounded almost 24 year old, better at most everything except power?
there arent too many players in the system i'd feel more uncomfortable trading than clifford. jett and mauricio may be the only 2. acuna and gilbert are obviously way higher floor because of their defense but will either ever hit for enough damage? or are they just solid supporting players? clifford could be gallo or he could be schwarber, but it's scary to trade that much power upside at that age. schwarber was a fast mover but his age 21 was just his draft year. his age 22 was when he hit upper minors and got to mlb, and clifford is still going to be 21 for half of next year.
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A monstrous HR tonight.
Dan was right. Gilbert and Reimer in St Lucie tonight.
turns 21 today, where does he rank in the system right now? probably ahead of mauricio/acuna, has he bypassed gilbert? they may be teammates soon and he's almost 3 full years younger.
Glad the Mets held out for him. He's likely to be the crown jewel of last summer's veteran trade-off/purge. As long as he stays healthy, he'll in 'Cuse to start next season and with the big club in 2026. The question is where? In a corner OF spot (RF) or at 1B to replace Pete?
Baez not expected back any time soon. Talk about shitty injury luck with their top position player prospects this season.
@SyracuseMets
Kodai Senga (presumably his final rehab start)
@RumblePoniesBB
McLean (Up and down so far with Bing. 5.35 era/5.27 FIP, still solid 9.78 k/9, HR's have been killer (1.86/9)
@BKCyclones
Kade Morris (quietly a solid 2024)
@stluciemets
TBD #Mets
Oh man that would suck if it was torn. That's going to cost him some of next year then.
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is far from the end all be all but their mid-seasoon update didn't have Clifford. If he continues hitting like this he's assuredly a lock for the end of the season list but that would suggest he's still behind a guy like Gilbert for them. BP only went 50 deep on their mid season list so that doesn't help much here lol
with gilbert not playing, i think it's more a question of style preference than talent scouting.
21 year old with massive power closing in on AAA or more well-rounded almost 24 year old, better at most everything except power?
there arent too many players in the system i'd feel more uncomfortable trading than clifford. jett and mauricio may be the only 2. acuna and gilbert are obviously way higher floor because of their defense but will either ever hit for enough damage? or are they just solid supporting players? clifford could be gallo or he could be schwarber, but it's scary to trade that much power upside at that age. schwarber was a fast mover but his age 21 was just his draft year. his age 22 was when he hit upper minors and got to mlb, and clifford is still going to be 21 for half of next year.
Exactly on the preference. I have him 3/4 with Gilbert. Jett and Sproat ahead.
Oh no! :-(
@RumblePoniesBB Brandon Sproat (some buzz @mets may consider him out of the pen later in the season)
@BKCyclones Felipe De La Cruz
@stluciemets TBD #Mets
@SyracuseMets
Thomas 3-5, Acuna/Baty didn't start but Acuna pinch ran and was thrown out.
Hamel solid. 4.2 innings 3 hits 2 runs 2 walks 5 k's
Fujinami 1 perfect
Gage 1 inning 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 0 k's P
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@RumblePoniesBB
Ramirez 1-5, 2 k's
Parada 0-3, BB, 2 k's
Lorusso 1-4, 2B, 3 k's
Sproat 4 innings 3 hits 3 runs 2 walks 6 k's
#Mets
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@BKCyclones
Suero 2-5, 2b, K
De La Cruz 3.1 innings 5 hits 5 runs 2 walks 2 k's
Lawson 2 innings 2 hits 0 runs 1 walk 1 k #Mets
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@stluciemets
Baro 4-5, 2 2b
Ewing 1-5, K
Houch 2-4, 2 k's
Fanas 1-4
Diaz 4 innings 4 hits 2 runs 1 walk 6 k's
Shook said in 2020, the Brewers and Mets were the two teams that showed the most interest in him.
I obviously meant US debut
I'd have Sproat right behind Scott. Benge is tough but maybe since his upside could be a tad higher I'd have him over Acuna but Acuna is knocking on the door. I'd have Tong over McLean.
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maybe even a little higher than that despite his recent struggles, but overall this is a quality group so hard to criticize too much. clifford and gilbert are kind of tied in my mind, and im pretty sure id have mauricio ahead of both right now.
I'd have Sproat right behind Scott. Benge is tough but maybe since his upside could be a tad higher I'd have him over Acuna but Acuna is knocking on the door. I'd have Tong over McLean.
forgot about tong, pretty sure id still go position player (j-rod) over either of the pitchers since they are both probably 2+ years away, which means 2 more years of what ~20% odds of a TJS before even getting to big leagues?
id definitely stick with acuna over benge. there's only a 10 month age difference, acuna the better athlete so probably the better defender, so then it all comes down to bat upside and translation risk. does benge have a little more upside with the bat? sure. is there a lot more risk with a guy who hasnt debuted yet vs a guy already performing in AAA? yes. way too much for me to rank higher on a little higher upside bat.
Scott #23, Williams #40, Gilbert #72, Mauricio #73, Tidwell #95, Sproat #96 #Mets
Tidwell has been atrocious so far in AAA so this is obviously a good sign.
his doubles were 89mph, 99mph
@Ben_Yoel
Brett Baty for Syracuse tonight: 4-for-5, 2 2B, 2 HR, 3 RBI
If he was comfortable in the OF he would have taken Stewart’s spot already.
@RumblePoniesBB Tyler Stuart
@BKCyclones Jack Wenninger
@stluciemets TBD #Mets
his doubles were 89mph, 99mph
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@Ben_Yoel
Brett Baty for Syracuse tonight: 4-for-5, 2 2B, 2 HR, 3 RBI
If he was comfortable in the OF he would have taken Stewart’s spot already.
I hear you man. He should be taking reps in one of the corner OF spots. He did before in LF, I don't know why they're messing with him by playing some at 2B now in addition to his normal 3B. Typical Mets bull$hit.
Kevin Parada now hitting near .300 for the month of July, K% remains far too high (20's over 53 abs) but showing some signs of life
Not trading him this deadline. He's too talented. Parada on the other hand...
though he'd be just a piece in those trades and I'm not sure the other teams value Stuart enough for him to be a significant portion and the Mets may not have the prospects/mlb ready players other teams (BAL) do to put out a better offer.
Miller is around a year older than Stuart and Crochet is just a few months older.
"If I’m able to push through and it feels good in-game, this is something we can continue to ride and continue to be comfortable with."
up 2-0 early. J-Rod 0-3, Henriquez 1-3, 3b, BB (most overlooked strong season in the system), Juan 1-2, Gutierrez 1-2, Aracena 4 innings 1 hit 0 runs 1 walk 5 k's (I still think he's a long term sleeper, 6.26 era on the season and all)
What a disaster.
Has any player gone from HOF lock trending to the conversation for GOAT to washed up, career possibly over, albatross contract as fast at such a relatively young age?
He's still *just* 32.
Barry Bonds, for example, had over 350 HR's after turning 32.
What do the Angels do with Trout? What can they do? Just hope he gets healthy? try and trade him? Would there be a market?
exactly right. had he continued on his early season pace and gotten promoted before turning 18, that would have been phenom stuff. sucks he cooled off but all things considered he's still a great get for Pham and one of the highest upside prospects they have.
if i had to choose 1 out of him vs acuna that would be a tough choice.
It’s Hampson’s strong right arm that seems to interest MLB scouts the most. His fastball has been clocked at above 90 miles per hour; he also throws a curveball and a splitter.
Despite all the attention, Hampson was never really sure if one of the 30 major league teams would draft him. Hampson had earlier made a commitment to play college baseball at the University of Oregon and then changed his plans to begin his collegiate career locally and attend Everett Community College starting in September.
In early July, Hampson joined the Wenatchee Applesox, a summer amateur baseball league team to help keep his skills sharp in preparation for his time in the collegiate ranks.
But everything changed last week when he was the 533rd overall pick in the 2024 MLB draft. He packed up his summer gear, headed home to Mill Creek for some final goodbyes with friends and family, then flew to Florida for two days of physicals with Mets trainers and the eventual signing of his rookie contract.
Hate to be a Debbie Downer but the k-rate remains scary for Parada 22/55 ab's in July. Obviously, it's nice seeing him hitting but a 40% k rate isn't going to work.
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hopefully he can sustain it to finish the season. At least one of him and Houck need to not be a write off.
Hate to be a Debbie Downer but the k-rate remains scary for Parada 22/55 ab's in July. Obviously, it's nice seeing him hitting but a 40% k rate isn't going to work.
im expecting that if stearns shops in a tier above salary dump parada is one of the pieces in the deal. parada, ramirez, vasil/jarvis type of pu pu platter.
SF is starting to look like the team that i think best lines up with mets across a number of pitchers plus conforto. if i had to guess where the mets do some kind of bigger deal, that would be it. conforto + 1 of the rogers, and maybe even more than that.
unless the mets can find a way to get tanner scott, but id imagine someone like LAD will get aggressive there.
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Sproat #22
Gilbert #51
Williams #63
J-Rod #81 #Mets
farm system. Hopefully, August will be better. It will certainly be more interesting, with some new faces via the draft
Sproat #22
Gilbert #51
Williams #63
J-Rod #81 #Mets
just cracked the top 10 in their latest board update. tampa gonna be insane if they also move fairbanks. im not even sure too many of the guys they got rate that well in this ranking bc morel is graduated and the rest seemed more like risers/fliers than highly ranked publicly.
@RumblePoniesBB Dakota Hawkins (AA debut)
@BKCyclones Jack Wenninger
@stluciemets TBD #Mets
@RumblePoniesBB Joander Suarez
@BKCyclones (game 1) Jack Wenninger
@BKCyclones Jonah Tong
@stluciemets Edgar Moreta
#Mets
Complex; some scrimmages
Very good news on him!
Joey Lucchesi
@RumblePoniesBB
Joander Suarez
@BKCyclones
(game 1) Jack Wenninger
@BKCyclones
Jonah Tong
@stluciemets
Edgar Moreta
#Mets
No. 35 Tyler Stuart
No. 41 Kade Morris
No. 75 Paul Gervase
No. 82 Rhylan Thomas
No. 86 Wilfredo Lara
@mikemayer22
Sean Reid-Foley is joining the Double-A Binghamton Rumble Ponies today to continue his rehab assignment.
Suarez is a FA following the season
Nice!
) making his @SyracuseMets
debut today relieving Wilkin Ramos
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tomorrow when August begins?
Will do
You da man Dan! Thanks for everything so far 🙏🏽.
The K rate probably hurts his chances of a call up
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Ritter HR(21). Wish he was given a chance.
The K rate probably hurts his chances of a call up
It's right on the cusp. If anything I would have thought it could be for Stewart but since we made the Winker deal I don't see it happening at this point anyway.