<opening rant>. Can we stop with the bullshit that Boone doesn't write the lineup card? Every whining fan of every losing team says that as a pretense to fire everybody. Boone has said repeatedly the the lineup is his responsibility. As did Girardi before him. As did Torre before that. Boone has even said he decides who gets called up and sent down. The Rules of MLB say that the field manager writes the line up card. Are they all lying ? What could Cashman do if Boone writes a lineup that disapproves of ? Fire him and eat his contract ? </rant>
Stupid play by both Volpe and DJ. But it has nothing to do with them "not giving a shit". They either weren't thinking or didn't know the rule.
And using that play as an example of why Boone should be fired is just dumb.
Cooked.
This team now has regressed to the point that they appear to no longer give a shit about playing winning baseball.
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Volpe just cost them a run inexplicably stopping while he was running home. I have defended Boone for years. He needs to go at. This point. This is not your typical cold streak that's part of the usual perks and valleys of a 162 game season. The last 3 weeks have been a complete embarrassment. Now the players are walking around like they don't give a shit. When that happens the manager has lost the team and it's time to go.
Stupid play by both Volpe and DJ. But it has nothing to do with them "not giving a shit". They either weren't thinking or didn't know the rule.
And using that play as an example of why Boone should be fired is just dumb.
And DJ jogged to first on the botched double play. When you're playing like crap the least you can do is hustle.
Yanks still not hitting.
Torres re-injured his groin out-legging the infield hit and left the game.
Sometimes when a manager says a player is protecting an injury, it's the truth.
Hal isn’t capable of making the executive decision because he hasn’t accomplished anything on his own his whole life. Moving on from Cashman would mean he’d be responsible for the franchise.
What else?
Their revenue exceeds 700M and their valuation is at 7B. It’s pathetic for Hal to cry about a 300M payroll. If penny pinching matters that much to him, hold Cashman accountable then.
That is literally the word that came to mind for me too. (Sadly though, with Holmes it's far too real).
This team needs a change, and if there's any chance of salvaging the season it has to be soon than later.
I’m not as reactionary as others but I’m at the point where something needs to be done here. Team is a joke right now. Even Girardi and O’Neill sound fed up.
The solution starts with firing Levine, Cashman, and Boone.
Then clean house with the coaches and players.
This season is done now, so they might as well get started tomorrow. But they won't.
You're not allowed to miss those days because someone will bring up all the bad stuff. Like, who the fuck cares. At least they fucking WON in those days. From Hal, to Levine, to Cashman, to Boone, these guys are all imbeciles, to put it kindly.
Yankees fans I think Boone needs to go. This Red Sox isn’t any good either.
Outside of Soto and Judge who scares you on either team?.
This rivalry is nowhere near what it used to be.
Yeah, I'm pretty disillusioned at this point. It may be time to shake something up, whether it's the players, the coaches, the manager, something.
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are never consequences for dogging it. Grisham the other day, DJ and Volpe today.
Yeah, I'm pretty disillusioned at this point. It may be time to shake something up, whether it's the players, the coaches, the manager, something.
It is time. But they won't. There is no accountability on this team.
The solution starts with firing Levine, Cashman, and Boone.
Then clean house with the coaches and players.
This season is done now, so they might as well get started tomorrow. But they won't.
There's never been any accountability under Boone. How many huge mistakes has Torres made by being lackadaisical or nonchalant or just plain dumb on the bases. Has he ever been benched even once for any of that?
You have a DH in Stanton who can't do more than jog on the bases, and even then he has leg injuries every year.
The 'experts' keep talking about all the great RP bargains they find on the cheap. But how many have worked out for more than one year?
And Cashman's draft and trade history speaks for itself. And his boast to the media over the winter about how successful they are at player development was laughable. It's amazing no one in the NY media called him out on that. I have no idea why they give him the kid glove treatment.
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The problem is organizational. And it is deeply imbedded.
The solution starts with firing Levine, Cashman, and Boone.
Then clean house with the coaches and players.
This season is done now, so they might as well get started tomorrow. But they won't.
There's never been any accountability under Boone. How many huge mistakes has Torres made by being lackadaisical or nonchalant or just plain dumb on the bases. Has he ever been benched even once for any of that?
You have a DH in Stanton who can't do more than jog on the bases, and even then he has leg injuries every year.
The 'experts' keep talking about all the great RP bargains they find on the cheap. But how many have worked out for more than one year?
And Cashman's draft and trade history speaks for itself. And his boast to the media over the winter about how successful they are at player development was laughable. It's amazing no one in the NY media called him out on that. I have no idea why they give him the kid glove treatment.
I think a lot of it is about access. These days there are so many different outlets that I think reporters are afraid to burn their access. It sucks.
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you can rant and rave as much as you want, but I know 3 different people who have worked and do work in baseball front offices (at least 6 different franchises), and the reality is that some front offices do indeed dictate who is playing and the starting lineups. And no manager is going to say that this is the truth publicly. I do not know what the Yankees do, although I admittedly have not asked (none of them are current or former Yankees people).
unless you care to name names, it doesn’t impress me that the mother’s brother’s cousin of the men’s room attendant that you happen to know tells us something that every GM and manager that’s been asked about denies. In the case of the Yankees it’s probable they all discuss the lineup. I wouldn’t be surprised if Boone called upstairs and said “I think we have to move Volpe out of the leadoff spot”. But the thought the the GM emails a lineup card to the field manager is ridiculous. The thought that the GM decides “today we’re going to DH Judge and bat Grisham 5th “ is insane. It’s just like every other conspiracy theory. It doesn’t make sense and everybody on record denies it, but some schlub with a few beers in him bumps into you and says he knows the truth
Lol I'm not divulging names on an internet message board, and one is my best friend from high school. 2 of these 3 people have very senior positions. If you think I'm making this up for the hell of it, that's fine, I don't care.
You act like people in baseball tell the truth about everything. Just like sticky stuff, and steroids, and signal stealing from center field, and everything else that people publicly denied forever.
In any event, I'm pretty sick of Boone myself, I don't really care if they can him.
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you can rant and rave as much as you want, but I know 3 different people who have worked and do work in baseball front offices (at least 6 different franchises), and the reality is that some front offices do indeed dictate who is playing and the starting lineups. And no manager is going to say that this is the truth publicly. I do not know what the Yankees do, although I admittedly have not asked (none of them are current or former Yankees people).
unless you care to name names, it doesn’t impress me that the mother’s brother’s cousin of the men’s room attendant that you happen to know tells us something that every GM and manager that’s been asked about denies. In the case of the Yankees it’s probable they all discuss the lineup. I wouldn’t be surprised if Boone called upstairs and said “I think we have to move Volpe out of the leadoff spot”. But the thought the the GM emails a lineup card to the field manager is ridiculous. The thought that the GM decides “today we’re going to DH Judge and bat Grisham 5th “ is insane. It’s just like every other conspiracy theory. It doesn’t make sense and everybody on record denies it, but some schlub with a few beers in him bumps into you and says he knows the truth
Lol I'm not divulging names on an internet message board, and one is my best friend from high school. 2 of these 3 people have very senior positions. If you think I'm making this up for the hell of it, that's fine, I don't care.
You act like people in baseball tell the truth about everything. Just like sticky stuff, and steroids, and signal stealing from center field, and everything else that people publicly denied forever.
In any event, I'm pretty sick of Boone myself, I don't really care if they can him.
And to be even clearer, I do not know either way whether there is a front office that literally sets the lineup card top to bottom, as in your hypothetical. But some of them are heavily involved in the lineup construction every single day. So you may be right that no front office sets exact lineup cards. But at least some of them have enormous influence. (And some care less.) There are also certain meddling owners that get upset about minor shit to a degree I find funny, but I've told the anecdote once before and didn't/won't give precise details.
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The problem is organizational. And it is deeply imbedded.
The solution starts with firing Levine, Cashman, and Boone.
Then clean house with the coaches and players.
This season is done now, so they might as well get started tomorrow. But they won't.
There's never been any accountability under Boone. How many huge mistakes has Torres made by being lackadaisical or nonchalant or just plain dumb on the bases. Has he ever been benched even once for any of that?
You have a DH in Stanton who can't do more than jog on the bases, and even then he has leg injuries every year.
The 'experts' keep talking about all the great RP bargains they find on the cheap. But how many have worked out for more than one year?
And Cashman's draft and trade history speaks for itself. And his boast to the media over the winter about how successful they are at player development was laughable. It's amazing no one in the NY media called him out on that. I have no idea why they give him the kid glove treatment.
I think a lot of it is about access. These days there are so many different outlets that I think reporters are afraid to burn their access. It sucks.
That's not it. They've had no problem ripping every other NY franchise's leadership at times over the last 20 years. Never Cashman, despite the Yankees' one title in 23 years, the team's worst stretch since before Ruth.
How about the tying homer? As a closer, you can't miss in that area in Yankee Stadium. If you're gonna miss, miss on the outer half. Walk him, make him go the other way, go after the next guy then. You can't leave a pitch in that spot to the tying run.
It's disheartening because we've got two months until the Giants start and it doesn't seem like the Yankees are gonna bring us much joy.
Holmes is a weak closer. Imagine him in a playoff game. Yikes
Too much pressure on Rice batting leadoff
Wells has potential. Yanks also have quite a few talented catchers in the minors
Stanton and the Martian in the lineup would help
No idea what this is about. Torres got the only hit in the inning the Yanks were gifted their three runs. Re-injured his groin in the process and had to leave the game.
Now we have guys who are showing no effort and playing dumb baseball and they get a free pass. This is what Cashman wanted. Him and Boone should be fired if they get swept this weekend. But Hall doesn’t have the balls.
Boone should have walked out and pulled Grisham, like Billy did to Reggie in 77. At some point there has to be consequences for dogging it, not running hard to 1st base or after balls in the field. Its a HR Derby with this team, when was the last time you saw anybody play small ball, move a runner over, go the other way to drive in a run, etc. Its HR Derby every at bat.
Holmes actually should have had strike 3 on Yoshida on the 2-2(?) count. Looked like what was called ball 3 was in the box knee high on the corner. Doesn't excuse giving up two hits/runs to two pinch hitters.
Kahnle is cooked too. Has he had a meaningful inning, yet?
Yankees fans I think Boone needs to go. This Red Sox isn’t any good either.
Outside of Soto and Judge who scares you on either team?.
This rivalry is nowhere near what it used to be.
Hey, so am I! We got 2 interesting teams now with the Sox and Knicks, so we just need the giants to get that way! Boy them Knicks are fun again after a long stretch, the Sox have a lot of young guys that are a lot of fun (Rafaela, Duran, Casas when he’s healthy, Wong, etc) although we’ll see if the pitching holds up. I think the giants have some good pieces and it would be fun to see it come together, which I think could happen if OL can be even ok. I like to think the giants will turn it around. It sure took a long time for the Knicks, so I’m in “believe it and it will happen “ mode.
The Yankees do appear to have a few superstars (very strong links), and many weaknesses (weak links) in their chain.
But as for overall play and winning, they are likely just regressing to the mean. They were on pace for 113 to 114 wins, which is basically unrealistic over the course of an entire season. So their play is sloppy and uninspiring now. In NO WAY does it currently eliminate them from a World Series championship. I'd only think about worrying in September, if there is poor play then.
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Not have a closer? How….not one shut down bullpen guy.
Because the trading deadline is July 30th? Why trade now, when a few weeks from now, we'll see what closers are rising and which ones are falling. And there is the rare chance that a player traded for earlier, could have a season ending injury right after the trade. It's best to wait as long as possible, still getting your man, to avoid such problems.
The Yankees do appear to have a few superstars (very strong links), and many weaknesses (weak links) in their chain.
But as for overall play and winning, they are likely just regressing to the mean. They were on pace for 113 to 114 wins, which is basically unrealistic over the course of an entire season. So their play is sloppy and uninspiring now. In NO WAY does it currently eliminate them from a World Series championship. I'd only think about worrying in September, if there is poor play then.
Good post.
Just like the Giants the angst (above normal losing streak angst) is because it's the same problem annually. Unlike the Giants it's the same GM/Mgr so that's especially unnerving.
As bad as they've been, which is shockingly bad, with average bullpen performance this a rough patch versus a total collapse. That's why high leverage guys are called that. They have oversized impact. And ours have shit the bed. One arm at the deadline can make a huge impact.
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Not have a closer? How….not one shut down bullpen guy.
Because the trading deadline is July 30th? Why trade now, when a few weeks from now, we'll see what closers are rising and which ones are falling. And there is the rare chance that a player traded for earlier, could have a season ending injury right after the trade. It's best to wait as long as possible, still getting your man, to avoid such problems.
The Yankees do appear to have a few superstars (very strong links), and many weaknesses (weak links) in their chain.
But as for overall play and winning, they are likely just regressing to the mean. They were on pace for 113 to 114 wins, which is basically unrealistic over the course of an entire season. So their play is sloppy and uninspiring now. In NO WAY does it currently eliminate them from a World Series championship. I'd only think about worrying in September, if there is poor play then.
Why trade now because a guy could get hurt right after the trade? He could get hurt right after the trade at the end of July. In the meantime the pen still struggles. DJ keeps hitting weak ground balls.
The biggest concern with the scenario where the team continues to struggle and either falls in the first round or doesn't make the playoffs is that might increase the odds of Soto leaving. Then giving up 7 of their top 10 to 12 pitching prospects for one year of Soto and probably one year of Verdugo gets really bad.
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Not have a closer? How….not one shut down bullpen guy.
Because the trading deadline is July 30th? Why trade now, when a few weeks from now, we'll see what closers are rising and which ones are falling. And there is the rare chance that a player traded for earlier, could have a season ending injury right after the trade. It's best to wait as long as possible, still getting your man, to avoid such problems.
The Yankees do appear to have a few superstars (very strong links), and many weaknesses (weak links) in their chain.
But as for overall play and winning, they are likely just regressing to the mean. They were on pace for 113 to 114 wins, which is basically unrealistic over the course of an entire season. So their play is sloppy and uninspiring now. In NO WAY does it currently eliminate them from a World Series championship. I'd only think about worrying in September, if there is poor play then.
I agree with your post but I'm having a little trouble with this line of yours: "In NO WAY does it currently eliminate them from a World Series championship."
Of course, technically, the Yankees have not been eliminated from anything, and I suppose that even includes a World Series Championship.
But this is not a World Championship roster. They have two superstar hitters and then a lot of everyday players that range from bad to mediocre. Their starting pitching and relief pitching is now regressing to the mean, and they have no legit closer.
I believe this team can make the playoffs. But the World Series is a bridge too far. Way far.
Now we have guys who are showing no effort and playing dumb baseball and they get a free pass. This is what Cashman wanted. Him and Boone should be fired if they get swept this weekend. But Hall doesn’t have the balls.
Cashman sucks and has sucked for years. Shifting team building philosophies (remember "we are going to build through the farm"- right up until he started trading the farm for free agent rentals and the guys from the farm did nothing), all in on sabremetrics to make every decision (which even Bill James is now saying are being misused to make micro decisions), all in on 3 outcome baseball which appears to be ruining some hitters. He is just bad at what he does.
Boone is no prize but he is there because he does what Cashman tells him to do. They both should be shown the door.
If the ship be sinking, how can the sky be the limit?
;>)
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The Boss….the shit would be hitting the fan by now.
You're not allowed to miss those days because someone will bring up all the bad stuff. Like, who the fuck cares. At least they fucking WON in those days. From Hal, to Levine, to Cashman, to Boone, these guys are all imbeciles, to put it kindly.
Holmes is a weak closer. Imagine him in a playoff game. Yikes
Too much pressure on Rice batting leadoff
Wells has potential. Yanks also have quite a few talented catchers in the minors
Stanton and the Martian in the lineup would help
Personally, I wouldn't have moved Volpe out. Once they moved him there earlier in the season, they needed to leave him there. They don't have any other leadoff hitter. I don't love him, but I don't see another leadoff batter on this team. Or, are we moving to Soto leading off and Judge 2?
In the everyday lineup. Everyone loves Judge and Soto but if either or both have an off-game, or an off-series or an off few weeks… who the heck is picking up the slack?
It’s unfair to compare this team with the late 90s version, but those teams always seemed to have several decent/consistent bats to pick up the slack. Today, 2 superstars in the lineup joined by 7 questionable/iffy bats. I no like that ratio.
In the everyday lineup. Everyone loves Judge and Soto but if either or both have an off-game, or an off-series or an off few weeks… who the heck is picking up the slack?
It’s unfair to compare this team with the late 90s version, but those teams always seemed to have several decent/consistent bats to pick up the slack. Today, 2 superstars in the lineup joined by 7 questionable/iffy bats. I no like that ratio.