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NFT: ⚾Mets vs Rockies Series: Games 1-3 ⚾Gm 1 - 7:10 pm ET start⚾

Optimus-NY : 7/12/2024 5:12 pm
Here we go again with another series thread. The Mets are playing a terrible Rockies team in their final series before the All-Star Break at Citi Field. Click HERE to read a series preview for this three-game set against Colorado. The Mets won their previous series against the Nationals and are looking to do the same against the team with the second-worst record in the National League. A series win here would help them a great deal as they jockey for position for the last two wildcard spots in the National League. Enjoy 😊!
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Mets vs. Rockies: Game 1 –⚾Manaea (L) vs. Gordon (R)⚾– 7:10 pm EDT



Starting Lineups for both clubs tonight.
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Notes:
-Tonight’s game will be televised on SNY as will tomorrow’s game.
-The weather for tonight's game at Citi Field is expected to be decent, except for around start time, when showers are expected. Don’t be surprised if the start of the game is a bit delayed because of that. Click HERE to keep updated and see the Hourly AccuWeather Reports from there.
-The Mets sit in the final Wildcard spot to start the day (a percentage point ahead of the Padres whom they have 4 games in hand on) & are playing a Rockies team with an abysmal road record (13-34). This series will be the Rockies’ only appearance in Queens this season. The Mets have the best record in MLB since May 30th, with a record of 25-12. The Mets placed starting pitcher David Peterson (LHP) on the Paternity List today & have recalled reliever Eric Orze (RHP) from Triple-A Syracuse in his place.

-Click HERE to see the list of Mets transactions for July.
-Click HERE to see the Mets' 26-man active roster.
-The Mets' 4-man bench for tonight’s game will consist of Torrens (R), Taylor (R), Stewart (L), & Gamel (L).
Check out the Minor League thread for July below:  
Optimus-NY : 7/12/2024 5:13 pm : link
We'll be doing one each month for the rest of the season. It'll be easier to consolidate info this way and for everyone to be able to follow along any news and information centering around the big club's various affiliates.


NFT: Mets Minor Leagues (July) - DanMetroMan - 7/1/2024 10:17 am


*For reference purposes, here are the links for previous months as well:

NFT: Mets Minor League Thread (June) - DanMetroMan - 6/1/2024 10:45 am

NFT: Mets Minor Leagues (May) - DanMetroMan - 5/1/2024 12:15 pm

NFT: Mets Minor League Update (April) - DanMetroMan - 4/2/2024 10:17 am
Here are a couple of useful financial websites:  
Optimus-NY : 7/12/2024 5:14 pm : link
Cot's Baseball Contracts - A Clearinghouse for MLB Salary and Payroll details


RosterResource - Team Payroll - NEW YORK METS PLAYER PAYROLL
Anyone on Colorado  
JayBinQueens : 7/12/2024 5:39 pm : link
to keep an eye on as a potential trade target?
RE: Anyone on Colorado  
Optimus-NY : 7/12/2024 5:51 pm : link
In comment 16552591 JayBinQueens said:
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to keep an eye on as a potential trade target?


Good question. Certainly something to keep an eye on during this series. Gotta study players on the opposition, especially crap teams that will likely be selling at the deadline such as the Rockettes & Marlenes after the break. Southpaw Reliever Tanner Scott certainly stands out from the Fish.
The Mets; bullpen as of now is as follows:  
Optimus-NY : 7/12/2024 6:11 pm : link
Righties:
1) Díaz
2) Núñez
3) Maton
4) Buttó
5) Houser
6) Ottavino
*7) Orze


Lefties:
8) Diekman
9) Young


* = Orze is likely to go down as soon as the ASB is over and Peterson is ready to return from Paternity List. The Mets have got 9 guys in the pen due to that for now.


The Mets have only got 4 starting pitchers on the 26-man roster now (Manaea, Scott, Quintana, & Severino) but it doesn't matter since there are only 3 games left to go before the ASB. Sean Reid-Foley's a guy to keep an eye on. The Mets expect him back shortly after All-Star Break. dd Reed Garrett too to that list, and things will look better.



Mets' Sean Reid-Foley to throw first bullpen Saturday: 'Trending in the right direction' Ben Krimmel - Fri, Jul 12, 2024, 4:38 PM EDT · 1 min read - ( New Window )
LGM!  
GF1080 : 7/12/2024 6:54 pm : link
Let's get another series win going into the ASB!
Here are links to tonight's game:  
Optimus-NY : 7/12/2024 7:06 pm : link
*Courtesy of sportsurge.net*

Mets vs. Rockies | 7:10 pm EDT start - July 12, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Mets' feed – SNY: Gary & Ron (strfish.xyz)

Mets vs. Nationals | 7:10 pm EDT start - July 12, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Rockies' feed – Colorado Rockies TV (strfish.xyz)

MLB.com - Gameday: Pitch by Pitch – Mets vs. Rockies – July 12, 2024 - 7:10 pm EDT start


Note: Keith isn’t calling the game tonight.


Enjoy tonight's game 😊
If the season ended today, the Mets would be in the playoffs.  
Optimus-NY : 7/12/2024 7:10 pm : link


Hopefully they take advantage of this opponent and make sure they stay there entering the ASB. There's no excuse whatsoever for them not to win this series. A sweep would be super. The Mets are 3-0 so far in this homestand.
Thanks Optimus, as always!  
dannysection 313 : 7/12/2024 7:22 pm : link
Two questions for Met fanatics out there..

What is the arm motion Met players are making this year after a base hit....where they swing one are sideways under the other...any theories?

Why does JD Martinez put the thumb of his left hand up to his mouth (looks like he's kissing his thumb nail!) before every pitch?

These questions keep me up all night wondering, so any help/theories/inside info would be appreciated!

LGM
Two out walks....  
dannysection 313 : 7/12/2024 7:39 pm : link
They kill you...
Vientos  
GF1080 : 7/12/2024 7:42 pm : link
Gets one back! HR!
RE: Thanks Optimus, as always!  
GF1080 : 7/12/2024 7:43 pm : link
In comment 16552653 dannysection 313 said:
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Two questions for Met fanatics out there..

What is the arm motion Met players are making this year after a base hit....where they swing one are sideways under the other...any theories?

Why does JD Martinez put the thumb of his left hand up to his mouth (looks like he's kissing his thumb nail!) before every pitch?

These questions keep me up all night wondering, so any help/theories/inside info would be appreciated!

LGM


For the first one they haven't said where it came from so it's a bit of a mystery. For the second no idea.
OMG  
GF1080 : 7/12/2024 7:43 pm : link
Iglesias HR!! B2B!
now bader  
Eric on Li : 7/12/2024 7:46 pm : link
he has been low key awesome this year. pacing towards being worth 2 wins by the end of the month.
Woo-Hoo!!  
Optimus-NY : 7/12/2024 7:46 pm : link
Too much Home Runs!
HR derby  
KDavies : 7/12/2024 7:46 pm : link
the 2nd inning
pretty emblematic of mcneil's year  
Eric on Li : 7/12/2024 7:47 pm : link
hardest hit ball of the inning and the only one without a homer.

mark vientos xbh and rbi machine  
Eric on Li : 7/12/2024 8:04 pm : link
half way to the cycle in the 3rd inning.
Bader  
JayBinQueens : 7/12/2024 8:17 pm : link
With his 2nd!
RE: mark vientos xbh and rbi machine  
Optimus-NY : 7/12/2024 8:18 pm : link
In comment 16552675 Eric on Li said:
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half way to the cycle in the 3rd inning.


It's safe to say we've found our 3B/DH of the present and future!
Let's blow this one open  
Optimus-NY : 7/12/2024 8:28 pm : link
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Vientos just got under that pitch  
Rob in Rockaway : 7/12/2024 8:39 pm : link
otherwise Grand Slam and blowout.
bader may hit 2 fwar by tomorrow  
Eric on Li : 7/12/2024 8:46 pm : link
this offense is really good. no easy outs and pretty much anyone can do damage.
OMG  
GF1080 : 7/12/2024 8:47 pm : link
Iglesias again wow!
Mendoza doing his best Aaron Boone imitation!  
Optimus-NY : 7/12/2024 9:20 pm : link
lol
Is Diekman the worst RP in baseball?  
CooperDash : 7/12/2024 9:32 pm : link
They couldn’t use Lucchesi as their lefty out of the pen? This dude fucking suuuuuuuuucks.
I don't want to see Diekman in a close game ever again.  
BigBlueNH : 7/12/2024 9:43 pm : link
We don't have a lefty we can trust at all. Maton just made 1 bad pitch. Still have hope for him.
Maton fitting right in  
dannysection 313 : 7/12/2024 9:43 pm : link
Never a dull moment with this bull pen...
RE: Is Diekman the worst RP in baseball?  
Optimus-NY : 7/12/2024 9:44 pm : link
In comment 16552703 CooperDash said:
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They couldn’t use Lucchesi as their lefty out of the pen? This dude fucking suuuuuuuuucks.


That's what I was saying. Lucchesi could have at least helped in that department. Instead, they keep this turkey.
RE: Maton fitting right in  
Optimus-NY : 7/12/2024 9:44 pm : link
In comment 16552708 dannysection 313 said:
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Never a dull moment with this bull pen...


lol. They're winning despite them. No wonder Manaea pitched 7 innings!
RE: RE: Is Diekman the worst RP in baseball?  
CooperDash : 7/12/2024 9:46 pm : link
In comment 16552709 Optimus-NY said:
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They couldn’t use Lucchesi as their lefty out of the pen? This dude fucking suuuuuuuuucks.



That's what I was saying. Lucchesi could have at least helped in that department. Instead, they keep this turkey.


And this is why it’s hard for me to get behind Stearns. His decision making is iffy. And his pen additions are god awful.
RE: RE: RE: Is Diekman the worst RP in baseball?  
Optimus-NY : 7/12/2024 9:48 pm : link
In comment 16552713 CooperDash said:
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They couldn’t use Lucchesi as their lefty out of the pen? This dude fucking suuuuuuuuucks.



That's what I was saying. Lucchesi could have at least helped in that department. Instead, they keep this turkey.



And this is why it’s hard for me to get behind Stearns. His decision making is iffy. And his pen additions are god awful.


I hear you. Stearns strikes me as a guy who surrounds himself with good people and makes decent hires, but his personnel decisions ain't the best. He has a reputation for building good pens coming here, but he hasn't shown it here thus far. Lopez could've helped this club too, but instead they chucked him because he chucked his glove. I wanna hear what happened with Lucchesi to make them dump him.
Assuming Senga gets back soon  
Rob in Rockaway : 7/12/2024 9:56 pm : link
then Peterson or Scott (if Mets are willing) could move to shore up the pen. They could also stop praying Megill is a starter and see if he can harness something out of the pen.

This offense and starting pitching are really clicking. The pen is just so bad now it's hard to wrap your head around. I've never seen a team blow or almost blow so many 4,5,6 run leads.
RE: Assuming Senga gets back soon  
Optimus-NY : 7/12/2024 10:03 pm : link
In comment 16552716 Rob in Rockaway said:
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then Peterson or Scott (if Mets are willing) could move to shore up the pen. They could also stop praying Megill is a starter and see if he can harness something out of the pen.

This offense and starting pitching are really clicking. The pen is just so bad now it's hard to wrap your head around. I've never seen a team blow or almost blow so many 4,5,6 run leads.


They're going to a 6-man rotation when Senga comes back. Stearns already said so. Odds are Peterson and Scott are going to remain in the rotation.
Put ANOTHER one in the books!  
Optimus-NY : 7/12/2024 10:06 pm : link

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MLB.com - Gameday Wrap
Excellent job again by Manaea:  
Optimus-NY : 7/12/2024 10:12 pm : link
(The Mets needed every single one of his pitches...)
The Mets are in sole possession of the 3rd Wildcard spot in the NL:  
Optimus-NY : 7/12/2024 10:21 pm : link
They're half a game up on the Padres, who are playing now in San Diego against the Braves. [/url=https://www.mlb.com/scores]That game is scoreless now in the Bottom of the 3rd there[/url]. Here are the standings in the Wildcard playoff race in the National League as of now (the Cardinals are well within reach as well):

Boo-Boo on the link for the Padres-Braves game in S.D.  
Optimus-NY : 7/12/2024 10:25 pm : link
Here it is, along with all the other games being played today/tonight as well as the link for the Box Score itself below:

MLB Scoreboard for July 12th

Live Gameday Box Score for the Braves @ Padres game going on now
It looks like the Cubs will beat the Cards  
Ira : 7/12/2024 10:33 pm : link
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RE: It looks like the Cubs will beat the Cards  
Optimus-NY : 7/12/2024 11:57 pm : link
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Good point. They did. Braves just beat the Padres. The Mets are ahead of them both now!
Optimus: Any chance you’ll be starting a Mets Draft thread today?  
HopePhil and Optimistic : 7/13/2024 8:30 am : link
I’m curious what you think the Mets might do, pitching vs hitting, college vs high schoolers, anyone in particular of interest.

Also might be an interesting time to go back to last year’s draft class and do a report card of players progress so far. I don’t follow the minors closely but would appreciate your take on Houlk, Sproat, and the rest.

Thanks for these threads. They are among my favorites on this site!
According to what I read online, Sproat's been doing great. He's  
Ira : 7/13/2024 8:45 am : link
already pitching for AA Binghampton and has been a success at that level.
RE: Optimus: Any chance you’ll be starting a Mets Draft thread today?  
Optimus-NY : 7/13/2024 9:24 am : link
In comment 16552769 HopePhil and Optimistic said:
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I’m curious what you think the Mets might do, pitching vs hitting, college vs high schoolers, anyone in particular of interest.

Also might be an interesting time to go back to last year’s draft class and do a report card of players progress so far. I don’t follow the minors closely but would appreciate your take on Houlk, Sproat, and the rest.

Thanks for these threads. They are among my favorites on this site!


Good question. My plan was to start an All-Star Break and Draft thread right after the last game. I suppose we're using the Minor League thread for the draft stuff, but didn't really think about it too much. My take on the guys you mentioned isn't as good as what you'll hear from Dan, Eric, and GF, They know the minors better than I do. Check out our minors threads do. I post them at the start of each series thread. I'll post a question to the group now about the ASB and Draft and see what everyone says.
RE: According to what I read online, Sproat's been doing great. He's  
Optimus-NY : 7/13/2024 9:26 am : link
In comment 16552771 Ira said:
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already pitching for AA Binghampton and has been a success at that level.


I'm really looking forward to Sproat's growth. I think we've got something with him. He wasn't drafted twice by the Mets by accident. We could see him with the big club as soon as next year the way things are progressing with him I recall San pointing out to me in the minors thread for July or June.
Question to the group/board:  
Optimus-NY : 7/13/2024 9:28 am : link
Should we do a draft thread or just use the Minor League thread for that stuff?

I'm going to make an All-Star Break thread for the 4 days in which the All-Star Break will take place (July 15th to the 18th). I wasn't sure though if we could combine it with draft stuff or just leave that exclusively as part of the minors threads. What say you guys since we're only two days away from the ASB and only 1 day away from the draft itself (July 14th the 16th)?
RE: Question to the group/board:  
GF1080 : 7/13/2024 9:36 am : link
In comment 16552792 Optimus-NY said:
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Should we do a draft thread or just use the Minor League thread for that stuff?

I'm going to make an All-Star Break thread for the 4 days in which the All-Star Break will take place (July 15th to the 18th). I wasn't sure though if we could combine it with draft stuff or just leave that exclusively as part of the minors threads. What say you guys since we're only two days away from the ASB and only 1 day away from the draft itself (July 14th the 16th)?


I say let's do a draft thread. It's always fun to look back at the archive to see what we were all saying. I'm going to be away rest of weekend but during the ASB I'll try to do some comments on the farm and draft from last year. It's a good time to look back at everything while we have no games to discuss.

As always thanks for creating everything Optimus!
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Optimus-NY : 7/13/2024 10:02 am : link
In comment 16552798 GF1080 said:
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Should we do a draft thread or just use the Minor League thread for that stuff?

I'm going to make an All-Star Break thread for the 4 days in which the All-Star Break will take place (July 15th to the 18th). I wasn't sure though if we could combine it with draft stuff or just leave that exclusively as part of the minors threads. What say you guys since we're only two days away from the ASB and only 1 day away from the draft itself (July 14th the 16th)?



I say let's do a draft thread. It's always fun to look back at the archive to see what we were all saying. I'm going to be away rest of weekend but during the ASB I'll try to do some comments on the farm and draft from last year. It's a good time to look back at everything while we have no games to discuss.

As always thanks for creating everything Optimus!


No problem dude! Do you suggest I start a draft thread today? We may as well. I'll do two threads: one for the All-Star Break and random thoughts, as if it were just another series thread. The Draft thread could be it's own thing. That cool? What do you think?
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GF1080 : 7/13/2024 10:14 am : link
Yup sounds good! Futures game is today as well but doubtful I'll get to watch. Draft tomorrow so now's perfect time to start one. I'll be down in Balt all day tomorrow so probably won't contribute much until Monday. Will catch Os/Yanks while there.
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Optimus-NY : 7/13/2024 10:19 am : link
In comment 16552814 GF1080 said:
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Yup sounds good! Futures game is today as well but doubtful I'll get to watch. Draft tomorrow so now's perfect time to start one. I'll be down in Balt all day tomorrow so probably won't contribute much until Monday. Will catch Os/Yanks while there.


Solid! The Yanks/O's game today is gonna be fun! Did you peep that fight yesterday? Wild stuff man! Great point about the futures game. Sproat's in it if I recall correctly.. I'll create it now while I have time. I'm gonna be out and about later on today after posting the lineups, so this is my chance. Thanks for the input :-) Enjoy B-Mo'!
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GF1080 : 7/13/2024 10:21 am : link
In comment 16552819 Optimus-NY said:
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Yup sounds good! Futures game is today as well but doubtful I'll get to watch. Draft tomorrow so now's perfect time to start one. I'll be down in Balt all day tomorrow so probably won't contribute much until Monday. Will catch Os/Yanks while there.



Solid! The Yanks/O's game today is gonna be fun! Did you peep that fight yesterday? Wild stuff man! Great point about the futures game. Sproat's in it if I recall correctly.. I'll create it now while I have time. I'm gonna be out and about later on today after posting the lineups, so this is my chance. Thanks for the input :-) Enjoy B-Mo'!


Yup. Hyde had all the right to be pissed after the Yanks were whining last series about judge getting hit.
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Optimus-NY : 7/13/2024 10:37 am : link
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Yup sounds good! Futures game is today as well but doubtful I'll get to watch. Draft tomorrow so now's perfect time to start one. I'll be down in Balt all day tomorrow so probably won't contribute much until Monday. Will catch Os/Yanks while there.



Solid! The Yanks/O's game today is gonna be fun! Did you peep that fight yesterday? Wild stuff man! Great point about the futures game. Sproat's in it if I recall correctly.. I'll create it now while I have time. I'm gonna be out and about later on today after posting the lineups, so this is my chance. Thanks for the input :-) Enjoy B-Mo'!



Yup. Hyde had all the right to be pissed after the Yanks were whining last series about judge getting hit.


Interesting. I don't pay any attention to the Prison Stripers or the O's. Guess I will from now on, haha. We all hope the kid who got hit's ok (Heston Kjerstad).
another nice win with maton earning his pinstripes  
Eric on Li : 7/13/2024 11:17 am : link
you arent truly a member of the mets bullpen until you've turned a big cushion into a save situation for diaz.

for those interested, as we approach the ASB here's how I would project a Pete Alonso extension right now should the mets decide to engage in extension talks again like last year. as a reminder both stearns/boras are new so whether or not it happens, who knows, it's mostly up to stearns. but if he wants to keep alonso i think there are a lot of reasons to try to buy low bc his negotiating position has never been weaker while still generally putting up a pretty typical season.
What Could This Year's Pete Alonso Extension Offer Look Like? - ( New Window )
Draft Thread is up  
Optimus-NY : 7/13/2024 11:54 am : link
Click below for it:


NFT: Mets Draft thread: July 14th to July 16th | Optimus-NY | 11:52 am - ( New Window )
There will be an All-Star Break thread too for other assorted stuff.  
Optimus-NY : 7/13/2024 12:01 pm : link
I'll post that early NY time on Monday, after the Rockies series. We can just shoot the breeze there for four days in lieu of a series. Draft stuff will be on this thread though and minor league stuff will be on the minors thread for July, as usual.
RE: There will be an All-Star Break thread too for other assorted stuff.  
Optimus-NY : 7/13/2024 12:04 pm : link
In comment 16552891 Optimus-NY said:
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I'll post that early NY time on Monday, after the Rockies series. We can just shoot the breeze there for four days in lieu of a series. Draft stuff will be on this thread though and minor league stuff will be on the minors thread for July, as usual.


Oops! I meant Draft stuff will go on the Draft thread, not here. Sorry! Bad job forgetting to edit after copying and pasting on my part.
Check out the current N.L. Wildcard standings below...  
Optimus-NY : 7/13/2024 12:15 pm : link
The Mets would be the 5th seed if the season ended today and would play the Braves in the Wildcard series:




MLB.com - Current Wildcard standings for the NL and the AL - ( New Window )
Mets vs. Rockies: Game 2 – ⚾Scott (R) vs. Feltner (R)⚾ – 4:10 pm EDT  
Optimus-NY : 7/13/2024 1:18 pm : link

Starting Lineups for both clubs today.
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups for today & tomorrow in Flushing against the Rockies.
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Notes:
-Today’s game will be televised on SNY as will tomorrow’s game.
-The weather for today's game at Citi Field is expected to be decent as of now, but keep an eye out for thunderstorms. They were in the forecast earlier. Click HERE to keep updated and see the Hourly AccuWeather Reports from there.
-The Mets are wearing their City Connect uniforms today. They start today as the second Wildcard team in the National League standings, ahead of both the Cardinals (due to a head-to-head tiebreaker) & the Padres and Diamondbacks (by 1 game each). The Mets hit 5 home runs yesterday—Iglesias & Bader each went deep twice), which is the most they’ve hit in one game so far this season. They’ve hit 58 home runs since June 1st—the second highest total in MLB since that time (as of the immediate conclusion of yesterday’s game). The bullpen is clearly struggling though. Diekman, Maton, & Diaz pitched yesterday. Let’s see who they throw today to finish the game after Scott’s finished for the day.

-Click HERE to see the list of Mets transactions for July.
-Click HERE to see the Mets' 26-man active roster.
-The Mets' 4-man bench for today’s game will consist of Alvarez (R), Taylor (R), Bader (R), & Iglesias (R).
Why  
DanMetroMan : 7/13/2024 2:45 pm : link
The F is DJ Stewart hitting 5th? Lol
RE: Why  
Mike in NY : 7/13/2024 2:58 pm : link
In comment 16552948 DanMetroMan said:
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The F is DJ Stewart hitting 5th? Lol


I am wondering why you have Gamel and Stewart in OF with a flyball prone pitcher on the mound. McNeil/Nimmo/Bader in some combination is your best defensive OF and you then play Iglesias at 2B.
RE: Why  
Eric on Li : 7/13/2024 3:23 pm : link
In comment 16552948 DanMetroMan said:
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The F is DJ Stewart hitting 5th? Lol


easily my biggest frustration of the stearns era is this roster construction carrying both DJ and Gamel. They both suck at pretty much everything. DJ as a power bat off the bench if you are down late i can squint and see but carrying both of them and giving him starts in the middle of the order at this point is beyond wasteful.

i know im dead horsing this but baty or acuna would add more and i think i can argue it's probably better for either of their developments to get big league exposure.

they are subbing vientos out late each night for defense, no reason that shouldnt be baty at 3b. iglesias has looked good on defense but he is not grading out well.
a little random but 2 more starts and vientos should have enough PAs  
Eric on Li : 7/13/2024 3:55 pm : link
to become a statistical qualifier at which point he will basically be considered 80-90th percentile hitter by all contact quality metrics.

torrens has a real cannon  
Eric on Li : 7/13/2024 4:31 pm : link
elite pop time and a really strong arm. stearns work on the fringes of the roster in small scale deals has been a real difference.

hitting baseballs hard up / down the lineup is a pretty good blueprint  
Eric on Li : 7/13/2024 4:51 pm : link
for success. a little weird seeing a lineup succeed to such a degree while pete hasnt been that hot. he has just 4 homers in the last month. 5 mets have as many or more homers than pete in that time frame.

Wow! Lindor comes up big  
Ira : 7/13/2024 6:54 pm : link
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Stupid Lindor  
JayBinQueens : 7/13/2024 6:55 pm : link
Why is he even on this team



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Alonso  
Maggot Brain : 7/13/2024 7:14 pm : link
has zero business on the All-Star team the way Lindor and Nimmo have played during this turnaround.
Nice job by Butto & Núñez in relief  
Mike in NY : 7/13/2024 7:43 pm : link
Being able to only use 2 relievers in a win when your starter can only go 4 1/3 is huge
RE: Alonso  
moze1021 : 7/13/2024 7:48 pm : link
In comment 16553041 Maggot Brain said:
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has zero business on the All-Star team the way Lindor and Nimmo have played during this turnaround.


Preach

Ridiculous they aren't all stars...makes the all star game a joke
You know who else should get All-Star consideration?  
81_Great_Dane : 7/13/2024 8:27 pm : link
Alvarez.
RE: Nice job by Butto & Núñez in relief  
KDavies : 7/14/2024 8:03 am : link
In comment 16553046 Mike in NY said:
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Being able to only use 2 relievers in a win when your starter can only go 4 1/3 is huge


Butto May have found his niche. Would love to see Megill in the bullpen and do the same
RE: Alonso  
KDavies : 7/14/2024 8:05 am : link
In comment 16553041 Maggot Brain said:
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has zero business on the All-Star team the way Lindor and Nimmo have played during this turnaround.


I heard that Alonso said he wouldn't be in the HR derby if he was in the All-Star game, which is understandable. I think it is weird personally to be in something like that. A lot of people dropped out/were injured, so weren't in the HR derby. They wanted Alonso for ratings. So Alonso wound up being chosen as the Mets rep
RE: RE: Nice job by Butto & Núñez in relief  
Optimus-NY : 7/14/2024 8:23 am : link
In comment 16553098 KDavies said:
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In comment 16553046 Mike in NY said:


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Being able to only use 2 relievers in a win when your starter can only go 4 1/3 is huge



Butto May have found his niche. Would love to see Megill in the bullpen and do the same


Butto's a starter. It's just that they need him doing this for now. It's always good to be a team guy, which he is. Next season, he needs to be in a starting rotation---either here or somewhere else in a trade. The young man is a gamer and a winner.
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Optimus-NY : 7/14/2024 9:30 am : link
New York Mets
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DREW SMITH MEDICAL UPDATE: Yesterday, Drew Smith underwent right elbow UCL reconstruction with internal brace augmentation with Dr. Keith Meister in Arlington, TX. Additional updates will be provided as appropriate.

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RE: RE: RE: Nice job by Butto & Núñez in relief  
Mike in NY : 7/14/2024 9:43 am : link
In comment 16553104 Optimus-NY said:
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In comment 16553046 Mike in NY said:


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Being able to only use 2 relievers in a win when your starter can only go 4 1/3 is huge



Butto May have found his niche. Would love to see Megill in the bullpen and do the same



Butto's a starter. It's just that they need him doing this for now. It's always good to be a team guy, which he is. Next season, he needs to be in a starting rotation---either here or somewhere else in a trade. The young man is a gamer and a winner.


The thing with Butto is I am not sure there is an ideal role for him. His worst performances are when he starts slow or he faces hitters for a third time. In relief you can try to get his first inning against hitters who are more apt to not want to draw a walk until he gets in a groove. As a starter he is facing players who are more disciplined and, as such, it is his worst inning when he starts. If you can find an Andrew Miller-type those can be really useful if they can go every 2nd or 3rd game. If you only need 4-5 innings from your 4th and/or 5th starter because you have a guy who can give you 2+ in relief that is like being able to get 6-7 from that role and not many teams can say that they have that luxury from the back of their rotation.
Speedy recovery to Drew Smith.  
Optimus-NY : 7/14/2024 9:44 am : link
Criticism of his performance aside, he seems like a nice young fella (only 30) and I think we all hope he's able to continue his career. Hopefully his rehab goes smoothly. He might not be back totally until the middle of next season. It sucks he's a free agent. I hope he's covered by the union during this time that's he's out. It's safe to say the Mets weren't going to re-sign him. He might not be back to full form until 2026. No matter where he pitches in the future (hopefully), I hope there aren't any speed bumps he has to deal with that would prevent him from rehabbing fully. Hopefully he can do it in Texas, where he's from, and be surrounded by friends and family to support him.
Jose Butto  
moze1021 : 7/14/2024 9:47 am : link
Seth Lugo 2.0?

It's very similar situation and the commentary above were things said back then about Lugo..

Interesting how Stearns plays this. Since Lugo, Mets have been hesitant to use starter prospects in bullpen to help big club.

For example, could Sproat he an impact reliever this year cheaper than a trade? Ala Adam Wainwright?
Mets vs. Rockies: Game 3 –⚾Quintana (L) vs. Márquez (R)⚾– 1:40 pm EDT  
Optimus-NY : 7/14/2024 11:17 am : link

Starting Lineups for both clubs today.
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups for today in Flushing against the Rockies (Cal Quantrill was originally supposed to get the start for the Rockies today). The starting pitchers for the game in Miami on the 19th haven’t been announced yet, and probably won’t be for at least a couple of days.
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Notes:
-Today’s game will be televised by SNY. The MLB All-Star Game will be on FOX on Tuesday at 8 pm EDT. The Mets’ next game will be in Miami on the 19th and will be televised by SNY.
-The weather for today's game at Citi Field is expected to be excellent, but a heat advisory will be in effect for the duration of the game, so that’s something that bears watching as the game goes on with respect to player fatigue, particularly the starting pitchers. Click HERE to keep updated and see the Hourly AccuWeather Reports from there.
-The Mets are going for their second straight sweep and have won 7 of their last 10 overall, including 5 in a row. They’re a season-high 4 games above .500 (tied for their season high in that regard) & are also a game above .500 at home now (26-25) after having been below .500 before at Citi Field. They’re in sole possession of the 3rd Wildcard spot in the National League going into today’s final game before the All-Star Break (they’re one game ahead of the Padres & D-backs each), during which time they’ll be off for 4 days. José Buttó & Dedniel Núñez pitched great yesterday out of the bullpen allowing no runs and only 1 hit between them over 4 & 2/3 innings. Diekman, Maton, & Diaz pitched two days ago. Righties Houser, Orze, Ottavino, & lefty Young are well rested & ready to go out of the pen today.

-Click HERE to see the list of Mets transactions for July.
-Click HERE to see the Mets' 26-man active roster.
-The Mets' 4-man bench for today’s game will consist of Torrens (R), Martinez (R), Stewart (L), & Gamel (L).
Marte  
DanMetroMan : 7/14/2024 11:35 am : link
Nowhere near returning per Mendoza
RE: Marte  
Eric on Li : 7/14/2024 11:41 am : link
In comment 16553165 DanMetroMan said:
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Nowhere near returning per Mendoza


has not been missed imo. his bat is solid but his defense is so bad it's only a wash out. the better D they've gotten (and hitting) from iglesias has more than made up for marte.

i cant imagine we see marte much more the rest of his contract here. i would think the mets will pay it down at some point just to move him someplace else and clear the roster spot. just sucks he couldnt stay healthy and keep hitting to do that at the deadline.
Too bad we can't trade Marte at the trade deadline.  
Optimus-NY : 7/14/2024 11:56 am : link
Best case scenario with respect to getting him off the team might be this:

-He comes back for the stretch run in late August/early September and plays well, while staying healthy.
-Then the Mets could trade him in the off-season to a team that might wat a spare OF/DH. Marte's last year of his Mets deal is next year.
-The Mets could pay that money down, a la James McCann't in the offseason of 2022 (they actually paid down 19 million out of the 24.3 mill remaining on the last two years of his deal).


Bonus: they could do the same with Jeff McNeil this coming off-season too, but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.
RE: Too bad we can't trade Marte at the trade deadline.  
Eric on Li : 7/14/2024 12:06 pm : link
In comment 16553179 Optimus-NY said:
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Best case scenario with respect to getting him off the team might be this:

-He comes back for the stretch run in late August/early September and plays well, while staying healthy.
-Then the Mets could trade him in the off-season to a team that might wat a spare OF/DH. Marte's last year of his Mets deal is next year.
-The Mets could pay that money down, a la James McCann't in the offseason of 2022 (they actually paid down 19 million out of the 24.3 mill remaining on the last two years of his deal).


Bonus: they could do the same with Jeff McNeil this coming off-season too, but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.


i think the mets best roster construction rest of year is finding an option at 2b that allows mcneil and marte to basically 50/50 platoon in RF.

Marte was crushing lefties, and holding his own vs. righties.



McNeil doesn't have a big split either way and both were worse than marte, but he is the better defender and ideally you could play him against pitchers whose stuff he matches up better with (whatever that is). both of them are deteriorating so hopefully less playing time helps bring out the best of whatever is left in each of them.

baty is likely the best bat they can put at 2b and acuna is the best athlete/glove. iglesias is a fun story right now but i assume he will regress to where he's probably best as a bench player.
4 bullpen guys who haven't pitched the past 2 days:  
Optimus-NY : 7/14/2024 12:10 pm : link
1) Houser - Last pitched on July 8th

2) Ottavino - Last pitched on July 11th

3) Orze - Last pitched on July 8th

4) Young - Last pitched on July 11th

-Diaz will prolly be available today since he last pitched only two days ago. The same goes for Diekman, but nobody wants to see him, lol.


*Orze will prolly be sent back to Syracuse right after the ASB when Peterson will prolly come off the Paternity List. I wouldn't be surprised to see him get some burn today if the game is a blowout, one way or the other.
RE: RE: Too bad we can't trade Marte at the trade deadline.  
Optimus-NY : 7/14/2024 12:14 pm : link
In comment 16553182 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 16553179 Optimus-NY said:


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Best case scenario with respect to getting him off the team might be this:

-He comes back for the stretch run in late August/early September and plays well, while staying healthy.
-Then the Mets could trade him in the off-season to a team that might wat a spare OF/DH. Marte's last year of his Mets deal is next year.
-The Mets could pay that money down, a la James McCann't in the offseason of 2022 (they actually paid down 19 million out of the 24.3 mill remaining on the last two years of his deal).


Bonus: they could do the same with Jeff McNeil this coming off-season too, but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.



i think the mets best roster construction rest of year is finding an option at 2b that allows mcneil and marte to basically 50/50 platoon in RF.

Marte was crushing lefties, and holding his own vs. righties.



McNeil doesn't have a big split either way and both were worse than marte, but he is the better defender and ideally you could play him against pitchers whose stuff he matches up better with (whatever that is). both of them are deteriorating so hopefully less playing time helps bring out the best of whatever is left in each of them.

baty is likely the best bat they can put at 2b and acuna is the best athlete/glove. iglesias is a fun story right now but i assume he will regress to where he's probably best as a bench player.


I like that. Unfortunately, we can't depend on the advancement of Drew Gilbert like we once thought due to his injury status. This also would mean that the Mets should re-sign Bader if he's open to another short deal (a year, or two max). Bader should definitely get qualifying offer this coming off-season.
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Named Later : 7/14/2024 12:18 pm : link
Today's lineup -- Alvarez batting third, Pete DH'ing, and Vientos playing 1B. All righty then.

The Phillies send EIGHT players to the All Star Game -- and there's no room for Lindor or Nimmo ?!? I probably won't watch that game.

Let's get these Rockies one more time and take a break.
I'm really excited about the Mets' future rotation  
Optimus-NY : 7/14/2024 12:24 pm : link
In 2026 we could have the following home-grown guys in the starting rotation (young and cheap):

1) Scott
2) Butto
3) Sproat
4) Tidwell

Peterson's another homegrown guy who could be re-signed and add to this.

Then you add in guys who aren't home-grown, like Severino and Manaea. Add in a possible trade or FA and you're really cooking with oil.

Clifford and Gilbert should be up here in the OF too by then.

Notable 2026 rookies would be Sproat and Clifford. I like it.
RE: ..  
Optimus-NY : 7/14/2024 12:25 pm : link
In comment 16553187 Named Later said:
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Today's lineup -- Alvarez batting third, Pete DH'ing, and Vientos playing 1B. All righty then.

The Phillies send EIGHT players to the All Star Game -- and there's no room for Lindor or Nimmo ?!? I probably won't watch that game.

Let's get these Rockies one more time and take a break.


+1
QO for bader is interesting  
Eric on Li : 7/14/2024 12:25 pm : link
if it were me i think id agree with you and lean towards offering it.

the only complicating factor somewhat would be the presence of marte and soto if they are able to get him which i assume they wont know prior to deciding QO, but marte isnt so complicated i guess they can always just waive him and open up the roster spot if bader accepts.

if they were to bring back both bader (on 1 year QO) and add someone like soto, whenever ready whichever CF prospect they choose (gilbert, acuna, jett) could get phased in over the year in a sort of tyrone taylor type role and then eventually take over for bader.
RE: I'm really excited about the Mets' future rotation  
Eric on Li : 7/14/2024 12:27 pm : link
In comment 16553188 Optimus-NY said:
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In 2026 we could have the following home-grown guys in the starting rotation (young and cheap):

1) Scott
2) Butto
3) Sproat
4) Tidwell

Peterson's another homegrown guy who could be re-signed and add to this.

Then you add in guys who aren't home-grown, like Severino and Manaea. Add in a possible trade or FA and you're really cooking with oil.

Clifford and Gilbert should be up here in the OF too by then.

Notable 2026 rookies would be Sproat and Clifford. I like it.


it wont be all homegrown because they need some proven commodities, but the cream will rise and they should have really good competitions/depth - which will hopefully sharpen whoever gets the opportunity.

if butto continues pitching like he has in BP i'd keep him there.
RE: QO for bader is interesting  
Optimus-NY : 7/14/2024 12:28 pm : link
In comment 16553191 Eric on Li said:
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if it were me i think id agree with you and lean towards offering it.

the only complicating factor somewhat would be the presence of marte and soto if they are able to get him which i assume they wont know prior to deciding QO, but marte isnt so complicated i guess they can always just waive him and open up the roster spot if bader accepts.

if they were to bring back both bader (on 1 year QO) and add someone like soto, whenever ready whichever CF prospect they choose (gilbert, acuna, jett) could get phased in over the year in a sort of tyrone taylor type role and then eventually take over for bader.


I forgot about Soto. He is the proverbial White Whale, and would be a better fit here than Ohtani ever would have been. If you can get him, then no plans have to be adjusted. NO two ways about it. Do you think they could possibly re-sign Pete AND go after Soto Eric?
I'm REALLY excited about team come 2026  
Optimus-NY : 7/14/2024 12:34 pm : link
No more Marte and most McNeil would be in his last year in Flushing by then, if he hasn't bene dealt that is (they've got a Club option on him for 2027 that almost certainly wouldn't be exercised if he makes it here until the end of the 2026 season).

Sproat and Tidwell should be here by then. Gilbert, Clifford and Acuna (if Acuna's part of the plan going forward). Jett might be here too, if he's healthy.
I like seeing Vientos at 1B today btw.  
Optimus-NY : 7/14/2024 12:36 pm : link
It might be what we would look like if Pete were to leave in the offseason.
Expect Márquez to 75-90 pitches today.  
Optimus-NY : 7/14/2024 1:01 pm : link
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“It’s going to be good to have him back. He’s super excited to be back. The guys are pumped to have him here and ready for Sunday,” manager Bud Black said. “So, we’re anxiously awaiting his return to our rotation. He feels good. Came out of his rehab starts very good — after the game, next day, bounce back, so he feels good.”

Márquez is expected to throw 75-90 pitches Sunday. The 29-year-old right-hander has won at least 11 games four times and is 65-56 with a 4.41 ERA in eight big league seasons — all with the Rockies.


Work that pitch count early and get into their bullpen. Sweep these turkeys and stretch the winning streak to 6. Mets play the Marlins immediately after the ASB. Would be nice to win 9 in a row against the dregs of the NL.


Rockies starter Germán Márquez to return Sunday from Tommy John surgery; Bryant getting closer | BY MIKE FITZPATRICK Updated 7:40 PM EDT, July 12, 2024 - ( New Window )
Here are links to today's game:  
Optimus-NY : 7/14/2024 1:31 pm : link
*Courtesy of sportsurge.net*

Mets vs. Rockies | 1:40 pm EDT start - July 14, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Mets' feed – SNY: Gary & Ron (strfish.xyz)

Mets vs. Rockies | 1:40 pm EDT start - July 14, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Rockies' feed – Colorado Rockies TV (strfish.xyz)

MLB.com - Gameday: Pitch by Pitch – Mets vs. Rockies – July 14, 2024 - 1:40 pm EDT start


Note: Keith isn’t calling the game today.


Enjoy today's game 😊
Beware of Blackmon at DH and leading off today.  
Optimus-NY : 7/14/2024 1:34 pm : link
He's hot and has killed Quintana often in the past (going 10 for 19 against him).
Blackmon would be a nice addition at the trade deadline.  
Optimus-NY : 7/14/2024 1:46 pm : link
Left-handed hitting outfielder (RF) and DH. 38 year old rental who's an impending FA and making a lot of money. He's got a salary of 13 mill. The Mets would pick up the last 4.33 mill of it since he'd only be here for roughly a third of the season. He'd certainly be an improvement over Stewart and Gamel. Who knows when Marte's coming back or if Gilbert will be back and playing well either coming August and Septemer.


Charlie Blackmon - Spotrac table - ( New Window )
Check out the Minor League thread for July below:  
Optimus-NY : 7/14/2024 2:00 pm : link
We'll be doing one each month for the rest of the season. It'll be easier to consolidate info this way and for everyone to be able to follow along any news and information centering around the big club's various affiliates.


NFT: Mets Minor Leagues (July) - DanMetroMan - 7/1/2024 10:17 am


*For reference purposes, here are the links for previous months as well:

NFT: Mets Minor League Thread (June) - DanMetroMan - 6/1/2024 10:45 am

NFT: Mets Minor Leagues (May) - DanMetroMan - 5/1/2024 12:15 pm

NFT: Mets Minor League Update (April) - DanMetroMan - 4/2/2024 10:17 am
Be sure to check out the Draft thread after the game.  
Optimus-NY : 7/14/2024 2:09 pm : link
Here’s the link below:

NFT: Mets Draft thread: July 14th to July 16th | Optimus-NY | 7/13/2024 | 11:52 am

Day 1 of the draft (rounds 1 & 2) will start at 7 pm EDT today. The Mets will pick 19th in the first round & 46th in the second. It’ll be on ESPN and MLB Network later.
Is Alonso  
Maggot Brain : 7/14/2024 2:10 pm : link
gonna do anything to help this team win?
very good question optimus  
Eric on Li : 7/14/2024 2:33 pm : link
In comment 16553194 Optimus-NY said:
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if it were me i think id agree with you and lean towards offering it.

the only complicating factor somewhat would be the presence of marte and soto if they are able to get him which i assume they wont know prior to deciding QO, but marte isnt so complicated i guess they can always just waive him and open up the roster spot if bader accepts.

if they were to bring back both bader (on 1 year QO) and add someone like soto, whenever ready whichever CF prospect they choose (gilbert, acuna, jett) could get phased in over the year in a sort of tyrone taylor type role and then eventually take over for bader.



I forgot about Soto. He is the proverbial White Whale, and would be a better fit here than Ohtani ever would have been. If you can get him, then no plans have to be adjusted. NO two ways about it. Do you think they could possibly re-sign Pete AND go after Soto Eric?


this answer probably requires more of a deep dive into the numbers of how it would look in future seasons, but pretending $ doesn't matter my gut answer is yes.

from a pure 26 man roster standpoint id argue it's still a more flexible construction than the current roster with JDM landlocking the DH spot.

Vientos and Pete can share 1b/DH, Baty (or Mauricio) can take 3b, Soto can take RF and the occasional DH day.

you have total flexibility to carry lighter hitting defensive oriented players like Bader and Acuna at 2b/cf.

lindor
nimmo
soto
alonso

is as good as any top 4 in baseball for probably a 2 year run at least, with soto obviously locking in an elite #3 hitter for the next 8-10 years.
RE: Is Alonso  
Eric on Li : 7/14/2024 2:34 pm : link
In comment 16553249 Maggot Brain said:
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gonna do anything to help this team win?


perfect timing.
Alonso finally hits one  
KevinBBWC : 7/14/2024 2:34 pm : link
tie game
Bout  
Maggot Brain : 7/14/2024 2:35 pm : link
fucking time.
1 last thought optimus  
Eric on Li : 7/14/2024 2:39 pm : link
with the efficiency with which they've been able to sign veteran pitchers (severino, quintana, manaea) and the depth they have of cheap minor league position player talent, its hard for me to think of a better/safer use of $ no matter how much it is than pete + soto. pete never misses games and is 29, soto is only a couple years older than vientos/baty/scott.

so when i do the math on it even if it pushed the payroll close to $300m (which i dont think it will), i think id argue id rather get those 2 and get creative everywhere else.
guessing next stop is queens since it will be post-ASB w/ full BP  
Eric on Li : 7/14/2024 2:45 pm : link

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Kodai Senga (shoulder, triceps) threw 66 pitches in his third and latest minor league rehab start.

His line: 4.2 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 3 K.

Senga's next step, in Carlos Mendoza's words, is "TBD." Could be one last rehab start. Could be in the Majors. Mets officials will discuss.
RE: 1 last thought optimus  
Optimus-NY : 7/14/2024 2:50 pm : link
In comment 16553266 Eric on Li said:
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with the efficiency with which they've been able to sign veteran pitchers (severino, quintana, manaea) and the depth they have of cheap minor league position player talent, its hard for me to think of a better/safer use of $ no matter how much it is than pete + soto. pete never misses games and is 29, soto is only a couple years older than vientos/baty/scott.

so when i do the math on it even if it pushed the payroll close to $300m (which i dont think it will), i think id argue id rather get those 2 and get creative everywhere else.


Great point. I think they might be able to do it too with the influx of young and cheap talent they've already got (Vientos and Alvy) as well as the talent they've got coming in from the minors at 3B (Baty's been up with the big-club already, but you know what I mean), 2B (Acuna, Mauricio, and Jett), DH (perhaps Mauricio). Stick Clifford and Gilbert in the OF or at 1B if Pete leaves, then you've got a formula that would work with Nimmo and Lindor already under contract for big bucks.
i was the biggest proponent of $100m+ on a SP last offseason  
Eric on Li : 7/14/2024 2:54 pm : link
but seeing how that has proved to be moronic with them getting so much out of manaea and severino compared to snell and montgomery, im inclined to just go that direction again. stearns judgement with SP was dead on, Erick Fedde has been excellent and they were close to signing him too. He was probably the biggest steal of the offseason.

yes Fried/Burnes will be tempting, but id make them plan B's only after trying to get Alonso back reasonably and Soto for whatever he wants.
RE: i was the biggest proponent of $100m+ on a SP last offseason  
Optimus-NY : 7/14/2024 2:59 pm : link
In comment 16553282 Eric on Li said:
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but seeing how that has proved to be moronic with them getting so much out of manaea and severino compared to snell and montgomery, im inclined to just go that direction again. stearns judgement with SP was dead on, Erick Fedde has been excellent and they were close to signing him too. He was probably the biggest steal of the offseason.

yes Fried/Burnes will be tempting, but id make them plan B's only after trying to get Alonso back reasonably and Soto for whatever he wants.


Great points Eric. Would you offer Pete a new deal at the ASB for 5 or 6 years (maybe even 7) and see what he says?
RE: RE: i was the biggest proponent of $100m+ on a SP last offseason  
Eric on Li : 7/14/2024 3:03 pm : link
In comment 16553286 Optimus-NY said:
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In comment 16553282 Eric on Li said:


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but seeing how that has proved to be moronic with them getting so much out of manaea and severino compared to snell and montgomery, im inclined to just go that direction again. stearns judgement with SP was dead on, Erick Fedde has been excellent and they were close to signing him too. He was probably the biggest steal of the offseason.

yes Fried/Burnes will be tempting, but id make them plan B's only after trying to get Alonso back reasonably and Soto for whatever he wants.



Great points Eric. Would you offer Pete a new deal at the ASB for 5 or 6 years (maybe even 7) and see what he says?


i wrote this speculating re what a fair alonso extension could look like, if i could get him for 4x100m with an option or two, yes id do it.
What Could This Year's Pete Alonso Extension Offer Look Like? - ( New Window )
Quintana with a rough one today  
CooperDash : 7/14/2024 3:08 pm : link
Maybe he should change his strategy to not give up HRs?
RE: Quintana with a rough one today  
CooperDash : 7/14/2024 3:12 pm : link
In comment 16553302 CooperDash said:
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Maybe he should change his strategy to not give up HRs?


Guess not, 🤦‍♂️
Maybe  
Maggot Brain : 7/14/2024 3:36 pm : link
they should DFA Houser who couldn't get my grandmother out if she swung blindfolded.
RE: Maybe  
Optimus-NY : 7/14/2024 4:14 pm : link
In comment 16553318 Maggot Brain said:
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they should DFA Houser who couldn't get my grandmother out if she swung blindfolded.


I'd prefer Megill in his role after the ASB.
RE: RE: Maybe  
Maggot Brain : 7/14/2024 4:21 pm : link
In comment 16553334 Optimus-NY said:
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In comment 16553318 Maggot Brain said:


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they should DFA Houser who couldn't get my grandmother out if she swung blindfolded.



I'd prefer Megill in his role after the ASB.


No doubt. If Houser could get anybody out, it'd be a tie ballgame right now.
however it goes its nice to have a lineup that is never out of it  
Eric on Li : 7/14/2024 4:35 pm : link
alvarez just missed tying it up and now they have another shot against a reliever with 30 pitches. JDM pinch hitting as tying run with 2 outs and 2 on.
5 outta 6 on this homestand ain't bad, including 2 of 3 from Colorado:  
Optimus-NY : 7/14/2024 4:49 pm : link


-The Cubs beat the Cards today 8 to 3.
-The Padres are beating the Braces 1-0 now in the Top of the 3rd.
-The D-Backs are losing to the Jays 1-0 now, headed to the Bottom of the 3rd.

Go Jays!

Check out the scoreboard across MLB below:


MLB Scoreboard - July 14, 2024 - ( New Window )
4 games are left to be played today, but 2 merit keeping an eye on:  
Optimus-NY : 7/14/2024 5:45 pm : link
Braves at Padres: Braves are leading the Pads 5 to 1 in the middle of the 6th

-A Pads loss or a Braves loss would benefit the Mets either way.



Blue Jays at D-Backs: The Jays are ahead of the D-Bags now 7 to 4 in the Bottom of the 5th

-Go Jays for sure.
Good news on the Scoreboard.  
Optimus-NY : 7/14/2024 7:23 pm : link
-The D-Bags lost to the Blue Jays, 8 to 7.
-The Padres lost to the Braves, 6 to 3. A loss by either club would have benefited the Mets. With this win, the Braves are 4 games ahead of the Mets. This loss by San Diego, combined with the loss by the D-Backs, gave the Mets sole possession of the third Wildcard spot going into the ASB.

All 14 games scheduled throughout MLB have been played today. There won't be any games (not counting the All-Star Game on Tuesday), for 5 days.

Here are the Wildcard and Playoff Standings in the N.L. as of the end of all of today's games:


NL Wildcard Standings - Updated from MLB.com
All 15 scheduled games were played today, not all 14. Typo.  
Optimus-NY : 7/14/2024 7:25 pm : link
Sorry. Shift over to the Draft now.
Be sure to check out the Draft thread:  
Optimus-NY : 7/14/2024 7:30 pm : link
Here’s the link below:

NFT: Mets Draft thread: July 14th to July 16th | Optimus-NY | 7/13/2024 | 11:52 am

Day 1 of the draft (rounds 1 & 2) started at 7 pm EDT. The Mets will pick 19th in the first round & 46th in the second. It’s be on ESPN and MLB Network. Here's a link for MLB Network below (they're already up to pick #5):

MLB Network feed for Day 1 the Draft going on now
I'm gonna start an All-Star Break thread for us to chit-chat on for  
Optimus-NY : 7/15/2024 9:44 am : link
the next 4 or 5 days or so before the Marlins series on the evening of the 19th (NY time). Just gimmee an hour or two and I'll have it up.

In the meantime, please feel free to read abut and discuss the draft by clicking HERE. Additionally, please feel free to also read about and/or discuss Mets' minor league happenings for this month by clicking HERE.

As soon as the All-Star Break thread is up, I'll link it to this thread, which we can then go ahead and tie up.
Optimus, that sounds great. I appreciate all you do for Mets fans on  
Ira : 7/15/2024 10:05 am : link
bbi.
RE: Optimus, that sounds great. I appreciate all you do for Mets fans on  
Optimus-NY : 7/15/2024 11:13 am : link
In comment 16553554 Ira said:
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bbi.


Thank you Ira! No prob at all. We have a great group. Mutual appreciation and thanks all-around.
The All-Star Break thread is ready now.  
Optimus-NY : 7/15/2024 11:15 am : link
Click on the link below to check it out as we put a bow on this thread...


NFT: ⚾🧢Mets fans All-Star Break thread: July 15th - July 19th🧢⚾ | Optimus-NY | 11:09 am EDT - ( New Window )
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