As much as I like Deuce,I don't know if he can really handle the back up PG position
He may be on his way out...
I saw on Twitter the Knicks see Deuce as an off-guard who happens to be able to play PG in a pinch, and that they've actively tried to keep him out of deals. I assume AJR and others have a better sense of what's going on, though.
until injuries strike, of course. He tweeted out something in reference to his 10th year in the league - I’m sure he’s just happy to qualify for the max pension benefits now.
He was terrible in the playoffs, he shot 40 percent from the field. I just don’t get this signing at all. Maybe they signed him so they can trade his contract at trade deadline?
but I do know we ran out of competent NBA players at the end of the playoffs. At this point, I think Leon and Co. deserve the benefit of the doubt. But I don't have a super strong opinion about this.
He was terrible in the playoffs, he shot 40 percent from the field. I just don’t get this signing at all. Maybe they signed him so they can trade his contract at trade deadline?
You’re pretty picky on end of the bench, minimum salary signings. Who do you expect to get that’s better?
What to you mean by final nove? There is no way they don't address C by the trade deadline.
Final move of this offseason
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This is a very peculiar signing. I wonder if this just gives them options at the trade deadline. I have to imagine that Duece and Cam's salaries are similar without looking it up and eiher could be used in a trade. When can guys be traded that were signed this offseason? The NBA is so complex to me. I think it is base on when the player signs so I am curious to know this answer. I also wonder if this is why Precious hasn't signed yet. It might give him more reason to wait if he knows he can't be traded until a later date. This is all speculation on my part but I am curious.
How can you not love the guy? All hard work and defense, improved his game all year long to eventually become a factor in the playoffs, but it’s seeming like he may be on his way out for a big and would probably be a nice “sell high” move by Leon.
this is as close to as high on Deuce's value as he's going to get as a Knick.
Barring injuries to both Donte and Bridges simultaneously he's not going to start here again nevermind play some 48 minute games like he was doing. And the team in not so many words has said he's not a PG, or else they wouldn't have signed Payne and drafted Kolek after watching him run an offense for stretches.
Plus as every year passes that's one clear closer to him getting a much bigger payday.
So yes, trade Deuce at the high of his value for a center with upside. Duren or Kessler. I'd probably prefer Duren given the offensive potential but I'd be thrilled with either.
he's a solid depth signing at the vet minimum. These teams in now better prepared to survive injury.
Yeah he’s got onions and can knock down threes under pressure. Good veteran signing not sure why people wouldn’t like this for depth. Especially knowing that they may need to make a trade for some front court help.
Basically saying that Deuce was viewed by the Knicks as an off guard option, if thats the case there are zero minutes for him..
I dont think Payne automatically means Deuce is gone but with adding Payne if they wanted to go with Kolek as the backup point for 10 to 15 minutes a night, Payne gives you insurance as the 3rd guy if you have to deal Deuce..
Obviously we hope injuries are nothing like last year but I wonder if this was in part learning a lesson from the end of last season. The Knicks had 2-3 non-NBA players that also weren't really developmental prospects at the end of the roster. While I think unhappiness with minutes is a real risk (see the start of last year), at least now there is back end depth that would be playable in the post season in case of an emergency.
Not earth shattering, but playoff experience and can make shots. I do like what I am seeing about his relationship with Bridges. More locker room positivity to go around with the Nova group. Hoping this helps them all be on the same page.
Josh Hart gave a Shoutout to Terry on his social media
the reference being to a report from a couple of weeks ago about Payne being arrested for giving a fake name (Terry Johnson) to Phoenix police. Payne had called 911 re a domestic incident.
I domt know why people forget the offense was stuck in mud when he gave Brunson a break.
I disagree with this. The offense was worse with Brunson in the playoffs imo whem he was trying to do too much. Regardless of whether we think Duece can be a point guard or not, he is something this team needs and thrives on. No, he is not irreplaceable. Yes, he has his flaws. However, in today's NBA, these are the guys you need. He's a winning player. He gets it. He came up clutch time and time again. His shooting got better and better. He added more to his offensive game other than a 3 point shot. His rebound against Philly was fuckin awesome when he ripped it out of the Sixer's hands and laid it in. His contract is a home run and a huge reason the Knicks don't want to move him. To those posters saying he has no role, I completely disagree.
RE: RE: Deuce absolutely is better as an off ball guy
I domt know why people forget the offense was stuck in mud when he gave Brunson a break.
I disagree with this. The offense was worse with Brunson in the playoffs imo whem he was trying to do too much. Regardless of whether we think Duece can be a point guard or not, he is something this team needs and thrives on. No, he is not irreplaceable. Yes, he has his flaws. However, in today's NBA, these are the guys you need. He's a winning player. He gets it. He came up clutch time and time again. His shooting got better and better. He added more to his offensive game other than a 3 point shot. His rebound against Philly was fuckin awesome when he ripped it out of the Sixer's hands and laid it in. His contract is a home run and a huge reason the Knicks don't want to move him. To those posters saying he has no role, I completely disagree.
Not suggesting they trade him. They need what he does. They also need real depth at guard that can operate an offense, such as what Burks was supposed to help with. Payne signing has zero impact on pushing McBride off the roster.
Anything they get from Kolek is a bonus to me. Be nice if he was filling that role as a rookie but I dont expect it.
RE: RE: Deuce absolutely is better as an off ball guy
I domt know why people forget the offense was stuck in mud when he gave Brunson a break.
I disagree with this. The offense was worse with Brunson in the playoffs imo whem he was trying to do too much. Regardless of whether we think Duece can be a point guard or not, he is something this team needs and thrives on. No, he is not irreplaceable. Yes, he has his flaws. However, in today's NBA, these are the guys you need. He's a winning player. He gets it. He came up clutch time and time again. His shooting got better and better. He added more to his offensive game other than a 3 point shot. His rebound against Philly was fuckin awesome when he ripped it out of the Sixer's hands and laid it in. His contract is a home run and a huge reason the Knicks don't want to move him. To those posters saying he has no role, I completely disagree.
He doesnt have a role, there are zero minutes for him if they feel he is better off the ball..
How is he getting minutes right now? Divo and Hart are going to get the bulk of the minutes off the bench, Brunson is going to play 33 to 35 minutes a night, Bridges is going to play 30 to 33 minutes a night..
Even if he is the backup point thats maybe 15 minutes if he is lucky and dont be surprised if they go with lineups with Divo, Bridges, Hart, Randle and a big for the 2nd unit
I think it gives them flexibility for a trade during the season if they want but, like you said, also gives them better depth and insurance if they don't. I also see them going small more than they have in the past under Thibs with guys like OG and Bridges playing up. I can see OG playing the 4 when Randle needs a rest and Bridges playing the 3 at times. This will allow McBride and DD to get some burn. Will Randle get some time at the 5? That I am not sure of.
RE: RE: RE: Deuce absolutely is better as an off ball guy
I domt know why people forget the offense was stuck in mud when he gave Brunson a break.
I disagree with this. The offense was worse with Brunson in the playoffs imo whem he was trying to do too much. Regardless of whether we think Duece can be a point guard or not, he is something this team needs and thrives on. No, he is not irreplaceable. Yes, he has his flaws. However, in today's NBA, these are the guys you need. He's a winning player. He gets it. He came up clutch time and time again. His shooting got better and better. He added more to his offensive game other than a 3 point shot. His rebound against Philly was fuckin awesome when he ripped it out of the Sixer's hands and laid it in. His contract is a home run and a huge reason the Knicks don't want to move him. To those posters saying he has no role, I completely disagree.
He doesnt have a role, there are zero minutes for him if they feel he is better off the ball..
How is he getting minutes right now? Divo and Hart are going to get the bulk of the minutes off the bench, Brunson is going to play 33 to 35 minutes a night, Bridges is going to play 30 to 33 minutes a night..
Even if he is the backup point thats maybe 15 minutes if he is lucky and dont be surprised if they go with lineups with Divo, Bridges, Hart, Randle and a big for the 2nd unit
I disagree. Divo is so hot and cold. McBride is more consistent. Do you think Payne plays over McBride? Thibs is all about defense. What McBride proved is that he is a role player on this team. His D and O are a great complement to what we are trying to do. Payne as of right now is insurance to me, nothing more.
He was definitely coming back until OKC upped their offer
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would’ve taken a pay cut because I loved it (in NY). But I now have an opportunity to make that money, make that pay raise, and still compete. I think that was the main factor."
“They said whatever we can give you, we’re going to give you... I talked to Jalen a couple times, Jalen and the guys. They really wanted me back and I really appreciate that. But it was definitely a hard decision. I couldn’t say no to an opportunity like this."
“I love New York. I love the front office, I loved my team. So It was definitely hard. If it wasn’t a situation where I felt like I really had a chance to win, I probably wouldn’t have left."
As much as I like Deuce,I don't know if he can really handle the back up PG position
He may be on his way out...
Deuce is solid but really he's a 2G that can bring the ball up. He's a solid spot up 3 shooting 2 who can defend. He has a decent little mid range game at times and his 3 ball is legit now but he's not an orchestrator. I think he's trade bait.
but McBride is sort of a luxury now that the Knicks have Bridges at 2G. HE can still help here but I would think if a deal was to be made for a big they'd deal from the surplus of 2G.
You have Bridges, Divo, Payne, Deuce and even Hart who can all play 2G. You can even use Brunson at 2 if you're playing the kid at PG.
Maybe they sign a FA big and sit on all this surplus for a rainy day. That works too. I aint worried.
Whether they keep or trade Deuce, Payne is a good depth signing.
He was definitely coming back until OKC upped their offer
It was ridiculous there was an argument about this especially since OKC frontloaded their offer to make it more difficult for the Knicks to match. Not everything on BBI needs to be a contentious dispute especially when a poster has a good track record and is obviously not spreading BS.
He was definitely coming back until OKC upped their offer
It was ridiculous there was an argument about this especially since OKC frontloaded their offer to make it more difficult for the Knicks to match. Not everything on BBI needs to be a contentious dispute especially when a poster has a good track record and is obviously not spreading BS.
OKC needed to blow Ihart away for him to leave NY and i even bet when they met Ihart told them that
I wish IHart the best and absolutely don’t blame him for taking the money but I’m not sure how much his model wife is going to enjoy living in Oklahoma City. For that cash, I’m sure they will be just fine but it’s going to be an adjustment, lol
No inside info, but Payne is very close to Mikal Bridges and does give the Knicks insurance of another ball handler when Brunson is out and if Kolek is not ready to play.
That being said, the team needs and some more height, they need Precious and a trade for a back-up center in my mind.
He was definitely coming back until OKC upped their offer
It was ridiculous there was an argument about this especially since OKC frontloaded their offer to make it more difficult for the Knicks to match. Not everything on BBI needs to be a contentious dispute especially when a poster has a good track record and is obviously not spreading BS.
No better way than to get an AJ to stop posting lol. If you don't bat 1.000 it isn't good enough, why bother, right?
He was definitely coming back until OKC upped their offer
It was ridiculous there was an argument about this especially since OKC frontloaded their offer to make it more difficult for the Knicks to match. Not everything on BBI needs to be a contentious dispute especially when a poster has a good track record and is obviously not spreading BS.
No better way than to get an AJ to stop posting lol. If you don't bat 1.000 it isn't good enough, why bother, right?
1. Were people really giving him shit?
2. The only thing I saw related to this, I commented to ajr directly. That situation, if I remember it correctly, was that he said IHart is coming back but, when asked to elaborate in it, he said the Knicks expect him back.
If that is what we are talking about, that is a legit thing to point out. Those are two different things. We appreciate what ajr brings. Is that even in question? However, with this situation, you can understand the difference between saying he is expected back and he is back. That is all.
OKC needed to blow Ihart away for him to leave NY and i even bet when they met Ihart told them that
I wish IHart the best and absolutely don’t blame him for taking the money but I’m not sure how much his model wife is going to enjoy living in Oklahoma City. For that cash, I’m sure they will be just fine but it’s going to be an adjustment, lol
I wonder if it was a 4 year deal if he would of accepted
I wouldn't be surprised to see iHart back as a Knicks in two years.
His deal with OKC is for 3 years, but if I recall correctly, the Thunder have a team option for Year #3 and may very well opt out of his third year due to all the cap money they might need to allocate elsewhere on their talent-rich roster. Mitch is a FA in 2 years too. Things may just work out for a reunion between iHart and the Knickerbockers then.
i think the 3 million dollar question here is why the hell did we keep "Cooked Kyle" here instead of Cam? I feel like i'm taking crazy pills after seeing just how much Lowry sucked in the postseason (and pretty bad in the regular season) while Cam actually played 10x better than him.
I don’t like anything about it. He is a bad player and obnoxious to watch play basketball. He adds nothing to this roster.
When I saw the news, my first reaction was "Why?" Didn't see this coming at all.
Ok, since I've learned that he's a combo guard who is supposed to be a pretty good 3-point shooter. So I guess I see the logic of it. They don't see Deuce as a true facilitating point guard, they're not (yet) ready to rely on Kolek as the primary backup to Brunson, so they got a cheap veteran who can give them some minutes at PG, play good defense and knock down an occasional 3.
My guess is Kolek passes him early in the season; Payne is relegated to the end of the bench in the veteran-depth-but-out-of-the-rotation role, and is traded at the deadline.
It could mean Deuce is going but I don't think that's what's behind the move.
Generally, I trust this regime so I'm not going to slam the move.
or vise versa; James Dolan is criticizing the NBA's latest revenue sharing and media deals. I see his points but I'm sure there is a counter argument from the NBA... Link - ( New Window )
or vise versa; James Dolan is criticizing the NBA's latest revenue sharing and media deals. I see his points but I'm sure there is a counter argument from the NBA... Link - ( New Window )
I dislike Dolan as much as any Knicks fan, but MSGE is a public company and the NBA deal is unfavorable economically to the company as it's bad for RSN's like MSG. He probably feels he has a duty to shareholders to speak out against it. He resigned from the finance committee (or something similar) of the NBA over issues like this.
watching aummer league and you get guys who just constantly force up bad shot or turn the ball over thinking their scoring is going to impress a team...
Nobody is looking at summer league for a scorer..
Kolek should have the ball every time down the court, he knows how to control an offense and he is constantly getting guys wide open shots
I shouldn’t be this annoyed by a summer league game
watching aummer league and you get guys who just constantly force up bad shot or turn the ball over thinking their scoring is going to impress a team...
Nobody is looking at summer league for a scorer..
Kolek should have the ball every time down the court, he knows how to control an offense and he is constantly getting guys wide open shots
It was interesting to see Kolek start taking shots down the stretch, basically seeming to say "Fuck this, I'm taking over." He'll probably turn out to be a better scorer than anyone on this SL roster except maybe Dadiet. He's been very disciplined about being a facilitator but he's too competitive to keep giving the ball up to lesser players when the game's on the line -- even a summer league game.
definitely has talent and a good motor, the shooting could come. They might have something, good idea taking a high upside prospect after trading all those picks.
definitely has talent and a good motor, the shooting could come. They might have something, good idea taking a high upside prospect after trading all those picks.
Lock Dadiet in a gym with shooting coach Dave Hopla and don't let him out for a month. Just ship in food three times a day. By the way, Knicks Shooting Coach Hopla has been with the team for twelve years which means he came in with either Mike D'Antoni or Mike Woodson. I think that it's incredible that's he still around.
His form looks good, and he moves like an NBA player, he's just had a few games where nothing is falling. Every player goes through that. You have to love what you've seen from him defensively and rebounding wise and his athleticism. Seems like a really good upside pick.
I'm old enough to remember when Heavy was a pop culture/music website with a sumo wrestler as the logo. And I'm sure their former alt music critics could make up a better trade proposal than that dumb nonsense.
is nonsense, but I have always said on this site, that much of the league looks at being a 6th man as Randle's best role on a team.
I don't think "the league" thinks that way at all. I think "fans" and some media do.
6th men don't make All NBA teams.
Agreed, who was the last player that went from averaging 24-25 pts, 10 rebs & 5 assists, to being a 6th man, while still in his 20s (or just turned 30)?
No one? This idea of Randle coming off the bench is beyond silly. I bet Thibs would laugh at that.
is nonsense, but I have always said on this site, that much of the league looks at being a 6th man as Randle's best role on a team.
You can repeat it all you want. Repeating time after time doesn’t prove that you don’t know a damn thing about what the entire league thinks. You pull your opinions from Twitter/X, Macri specifically so can we please stop pretending that you’re an insider? It’s a massive disservice to those on this site that do actually provide good, inside info
Deuce McBride
Cameron Payne
Tyler Kolek
Mikal Bridges
Donte DiVincenzo
OG Anunoby
Josh Hart
Pacome Dadiet
Keita Bates-Diop
Julius Randle
Mitchell Robinson
Jericho Sims
Ariel Hukporti
He may be on his way out...
He may be on his way out...
I saw on Twitter the Knicks see Deuce as an off-guard who happens to be able to play PG in a pinch, and that they've actively tried to keep him out of deals. I assume AJR and others have a better sense of what's going on, though.
You’re pretty picky on end of the bench, minimum salary signings. Who do you expect to get that’s better?
Kadeem Allen or Chasson Randle, anyone? Maybe Jimmer Fredette is ready for a return.
What to you mean by final nove? There is no way they don't address C by the trade deadline.
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Will be back and that’ll be the final move.
What to you mean by final nove? There is no way they don't address C by the trade deadline.
Final move of this offseason
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Will be back and that’ll be the final move.
What to you mean by final nove? There is no way they don't address C by the trade deadline.
Final move of this offseason
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This is a very peculiar signing. I wonder if this just gives them options at the trade deadline. I have to imagine that Duece and Cam's salaries are similar without looking it up and eiher could be used in a trade. When can guys be traded that were signed this offseason? The NBA is so complex to me. I think it is base on when the player signs so I am curious to know this answer. I also wonder if this is why Precious hasn't signed yet. It might give him more reason to wait if he knows he can't be traded until a later date. This is all speculation on my part but I am curious.
Barring injuries to both Donte and Bridges simultaneously he's not going to start here again nevermind play some 48 minute games like he was doing. And the team in not so many words has said he's not a PG, or else they wouldn't have signed Payne and drafted Kolek after watching him run an offense for stretches.
Plus as every year passes that's one clear closer to him getting a much bigger payday.
So yes, trade Deuce at the high of his value for a center with upside. Duren or Kessler. I'd probably prefer Duren given the offensive potential but I'd be thrilled with either.
Yeah he’s got onions and can knock down threes under pressure. Good veteran signing not sure why people wouldn’t like this for depth. Especially knowing that they may need to make a trade for some front court help.
I dont think Payne automatically means Deuce is gone but with adding Payne if they wanted to go with Kolek as the backup point for 10 to 15 minutes a night, Payne gives you insurance as the 3rd guy if you have to deal Deuce..
Its also interesting they were in on Tyus Jones
Bet Payne is amused by that.
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Maybe this isn't a precursor but do you expect a move to acquire a backup 5 before the season starts?
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I don’t see this being a precursor to an offseason center trade
Maybe this isn't a precursor but do you expect a move to acquire a backup 5 before the season starts?
I don’t anticipate a trade I think they’ll sign someone
I disagree with this. The offense was worse with Brunson in the playoffs imo whem he was trying to do too much. Regardless of whether we think Duece can be a point guard or not, he is something this team needs and thrives on. No, he is not irreplaceable. Yes, he has his flaws. However, in today's NBA, these are the guys you need. He's a winning player. He gets it. He came up clutch time and time again. His shooting got better and better. He added more to his offensive game other than a 3 point shot. His rebound against Philly was fuckin awesome when he ripped it out of the Sixer's hands and laid it in. His contract is a home run and a huge reason the Knicks don't want to move him. To those posters saying he has no role, I completely disagree.
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I domt know why people forget the offense was stuck in mud when he gave Brunson a break.
I disagree with this. The offense was worse with Brunson in the playoffs imo whem he was trying to do too much. Regardless of whether we think Duece can be a point guard or not, he is something this team needs and thrives on. No, he is not irreplaceable. Yes, he has his flaws. However, in today's NBA, these are the guys you need. He's a winning player. He gets it. He came up clutch time and time again. His shooting got better and better. He added more to his offensive game other than a 3 point shot. His rebound against Philly was fuckin awesome when he ripped it out of the Sixer's hands and laid it in. His contract is a home run and a huge reason the Knicks don't want to move him. To those posters saying he has no role, I completely disagree.
Not suggesting they trade him. They need what he does. They also need real depth at guard that can operate an offense, such as what Burks was supposed to help with. Payne signing has zero impact on pushing McBride off the roster.
Anything they get from Kolek is a bonus to me. Be nice if he was filling that role as a rookie but I dont expect it.
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I domt know why people forget the offense was stuck in mud when he gave Brunson a break.
I disagree with this. The offense was worse with Brunson in the playoffs imo whem he was trying to do too much. Regardless of whether we think Duece can be a point guard or not, he is something this team needs and thrives on. No, he is not irreplaceable. Yes, he has his flaws. However, in today's NBA, these are the guys you need. He's a winning player. He gets it. He came up clutch time and time again. His shooting got better and better. He added more to his offensive game other than a 3 point shot. His rebound against Philly was fuckin awesome when he ripped it out of the Sixer's hands and laid it in. His contract is a home run and a huge reason the Knicks don't want to move him. To those posters saying he has no role, I completely disagree.
He doesnt have a role, there are zero minutes for him if they feel he is better off the ball..
How is he getting minutes right now? Divo and Hart are going to get the bulk of the minutes off the bench, Brunson is going to play 33 to 35 minutes a night, Bridges is going to play 30 to 33 minutes a night..
Even if he is the backup point thats maybe 15 minutes if he is lucky and dont be surprised if they go with lineups with Divo, Bridges, Hart, Randle and a big for the 2nd unit
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I don’t see this being a precursor to an offseason center trade
Maybe this isn't a precursor but do you expect a move to acquire a backup 5 before the season starts?
I don’t anticipate a trade I think they’ll sign someone
Well, no one's available now, but which centers do you foresee getting cut before the season?
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I domt know why people forget the offense was stuck in mud when he gave Brunson a break.
I disagree with this. The offense was worse with Brunson in the playoffs imo whem he was trying to do too much. Regardless of whether we think Duece can be a point guard or not, he is something this team needs and thrives on. No, he is not irreplaceable. Yes, he has his flaws. However, in today's NBA, these are the guys you need. He's a winning player. He gets it. He came up clutch time and time again. His shooting got better and better. He added more to his offensive game other than a 3 point shot. His rebound against Philly was fuckin awesome when he ripped it out of the Sixer's hands and laid it in. His contract is a home run and a huge reason the Knicks don't want to move him. To those posters saying he has no role, I completely disagree.
He doesnt have a role, there are zero minutes for him if they feel he is better off the ball..
How is he getting minutes right now? Divo and Hart are going to get the bulk of the minutes off the bench, Brunson is going to play 33 to 35 minutes a night, Bridges is going to play 30 to 33 minutes a night..
Even if he is the backup point thats maybe 15 minutes if he is lucky and dont be surprised if they go with lineups with Divo, Bridges, Hart, Randle and a big for the 2nd unit
I disagree. Divo is so hot and cold. McBride is more consistent. Do you think Payne plays over McBride? Thibs is all about defense. What McBride proved is that he is a role player on this team. His D and O are a great complement to what we are trying to do. Payne as of right now is insurance to me, nothing more.
And deuce is nowhere near Divo, Divo was their 2nd scorer for much of the year because of injuries..
I like deuce but he isnt playing more than 10 minutes a night if everyone is healthy..
Brunson/Deuce
Bridges/Divo
OG/Hart
Randle/OG
Mitch/Backup big
Thibs is going to play Divo and zhart 25 to 30 minutes a night, that means zero minutes for Deuce with Brunson
“They said whatever we can give you, we’re going to give you... I talked to Jalen a couple times, Jalen and the guys. They really wanted me back and I really appreciate that. But it was definitely a hard decision. I couldn’t say no to an opportunity like this."
“I love New York. I love the front office, I loved my team. So It was definitely hard. If it wasn’t a situation where I felt like I really had a chance to win, I probably wouldn’t have left."
He may be on his way out...
Deuce is solid but really he's a 2G that can bring the ball up. He's a solid spot up 3 shooting 2 who can defend. He has a decent little mid range game at times and his 3 ball is legit now but he's not an orchestrator. I think he's trade bait.
You have Bridges, Divo, Payne, Deuce and even Hart who can all play 2G. You can even use Brunson at 2 if you're playing the kid at PG.
Maybe they sign a FA big and sit on all this surplus for a rainy day. That works too. I aint worried.
It was ridiculous there was an argument about this especially since OKC frontloaded their offer to make it more difficult for the Knicks to match. Not everything on BBI needs to be a contentious dispute especially when a poster has a good track record and is obviously not spreading BS.
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He was definitely coming back until OKC upped their offer
It was ridiculous there was an argument about this especially since OKC frontloaded their offer to make it more difficult for the Knicks to match. Not everything on BBI needs to be a contentious dispute especially when a poster has a good track record and is obviously not spreading BS.
+1
I wish IHart the best and absolutely don’t blame him for taking the money but I’m not sure how much his model wife is going to enjoy living in Oklahoma City. For that cash, I’m sure they will be just fine but it’s going to be an adjustment, lol
That being said, the team needs and some more height, they need Precious and a trade for a back-up center in my mind.
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He was definitely coming back until OKC upped their offer
It was ridiculous there was an argument about this especially since OKC frontloaded their offer to make it more difficult for the Knicks to match. Not everything on BBI needs to be a contentious dispute especially when a poster has a good track record and is obviously not spreading BS.
No better way than to get an AJ to stop posting lol. If you don't bat 1.000 it isn't good enough, why bother, right?
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He was definitely coming back until OKC upped their offer
It was ridiculous there was an argument about this especially since OKC frontloaded their offer to make it more difficult for the Knicks to match. Not everything on BBI needs to be a contentious dispute especially when a poster has a good track record and is obviously not spreading BS.
No better way than to get an AJ to stop posting lol. If you don't bat 1.000 it isn't good enough, why bother, right?
1. Were people really giving him shit?
2. The only thing I saw related to this, I commented to ajr directly. That situation, if I remember it correctly, was that he said IHart is coming back but, when asked to elaborate in it, he said the Knicks expect him back.
If that is what we are talking about, that is a legit thing to point out. Those are two different things. We appreciate what ajr brings. Is that even in question? However, with this situation, you can understand the difference between saying he is expected back and he is back. That is all.
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OKC needed to blow Ihart away for him to leave NY and i even bet when they met Ihart told them that
I wish IHart the best and absolutely don’t blame him for taking the money but I’m not sure how much his model wife is going to enjoy living in Oklahoma City. For that cash, I’m sure they will be just fine but it’s going to be an adjustment, lol
I wonder if it was a 4 year deal if he would of accepted
Indeed.
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Ok, since I've learned that he's a combo guard who is supposed to be a pretty good 3-point shooter. So I guess I see the logic of it. They don't see Deuce as a true facilitating point guard, they're not (yet) ready to rely on Kolek as the primary backup to Brunson, so they got a cheap veteran who can give them some minutes at PG, play good defense and knock down an occasional 3.
My guess is Kolek passes him early in the season; Payne is relegated to the end of the bench in the veteran-depth-but-out-of-the-rotation role, and is traded at the deadline.
It could mean Deuce is going but I don't think that's what's behind the move.
Generally, I trust this regime so I'm not going to slam the move.
Wonder if the 76ers tried to keep him...
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1. Were people really giving him shit?
It wasn't you.
I dislike Dolan as much as any Knicks fan, but MSGE is a public company and the NBA deal is unfavorable economically to the company as it's bad for RSN's like MSG. He probably feels he has a duty to shareholders to speak out against it. He resigned from the finance committee (or something similar) of the NBA over issues like this.
The game is on NBAHD here...
J. Toppin F
P. Dadiet F
T. Kolek G
D. Washington Jr. G
J. Toppin F
P. Dadiet F
T. Kolek G
D. Washington Jr. G
You can tell how skilled Dadiet is on defense. Seems like they may have gotten a stud defender.
Or what you said!
He needs a lot of work on offense lol
10 assists, 0 turnovers through 6 quarters.
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is so freaking good. Just makes every right read consistently.
10 assists, 0 turnovers through 6 quarters.
I didn’t want him at all and will gladly eat my words. Looks real good.
Skapintsev looks better than Hukporti to me.
Nobody is looking at summer league for a scorer..
Kolek should have the ball every time down the court, he knows how to control an offense and he is constantly getting guys wide open shots
Nobody is looking at summer league for a scorer..
Kolek should have the ball every time down the court, he knows how to control an offense and he is constantly getting guys wide open shots
0/15 FG
0/7 3PT
0/2 FT
0/15 FG
0/7 3PT
0/2 FT
lol - even though it's just summer league, I think it's a shock to the system for a lot of these guys - things will even out eventually
0/15 FG
0/7 3PT
0/2 FT
That is really something. My old, fat ass could have gone out there tripping on LSD and put up those numbers
Lock Dadiet in a gym with shooting coach Dave Hopla and don't let him out for a month. Just ship in food three times a day. By the way, Knicks Shooting Coach Hopla has been with the team for twelve years which means he came in with either Mike D'Antoni or Mike Woodson. I think that it's incredible that's he still around.
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Damn, my bad. The link I saw made it seem current. Do you know who took his place?
I don't think "the league" thinks that way at all. I think "fans" and some media do.
6th men don't make All NBA teams.
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is nonsense, but I have always said on this site, that much of the league looks at being a 6th man as Randle's best role on a team.
I don't think "the league" thinks that way at all. I think "fans" and some media do.
6th men don't make All NBA teams.
Agreed, who was the last player that went from averaging 24-25 pts, 10 rebs & 5 assists, to being a 6th man, while still in his 20s (or just turned 30)?
No one? This idea of Randle coming off the bench is beyond silly. I bet Thibs would laugh at that.
You can repeat it all you want. Repeating time after time doesn’t prove that you don’t know a damn thing about what the entire league thinks. You pull your opinions from Twitter/X, Macri specifically so can we please stop pretending that you’re an insider? It’s a massive disservice to those on this site that do actually provide good, inside info
Trade an All-NBA player for a backup center? Post that shit!
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A. Hukporti C
P. Dadiet F
T. Kolek G
D. Baugh G
D. Washington Jr. PG
Always looks off Kolek then dribbles into 2 guys and either forces up a shot or turns it over..
Funny when Kolek has the ball the Knicks always seem to get an open look
lol