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NFT: ⚾ Mets vs Yanks: ***METS FANS ONLY*** Subway Series thread ⚾

Optimus-NY : 7/23/2024 9:25 pm
Time for another Subway Series: the second & final one this season. Separate threads as usual—Mets fans only on this thread: We go our own way, they go theirs. The Mets somehow split a four-game set with the craptastic Marlins, who they finished their season series against yesterday (5-5 record). Beginning with this game, the Mets are stepping up in weight class. Their next three opponents are the Prison Stripers, Barfs, & Twins. Click HERE to read a series preview of this season’s Yankee Stadium edition of the Subway Series. Enjoy 😊!
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Mets @ Yankees: Game 1 –⚾Quintana (L) vs. Gil (R)⚾– 7:05 pm EDT


Starting Lineups for both clubs tonight.
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups for tonight & tomorrow in the Boogie Down Bronx against the Prison Stripers.
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Notes:
-Tonight’s game will be on WPIX as well as on YES Network. Out-of-market peeps can also watch it on TBS. Tomorrow’s game will be televised exclusively on national television on ESPN.
-The weather for tonight's game might be a little shaky due to possible thunderstorms. Click HERE to stay updated.
-The Mets are playing their 100th game of the season tonight. They’ve hit 53 home runs in their last 31 games, the most in MLB during that span. As of the start of play today, the Mets (51-48) are in sole possession of the third & final N.L. Wildcard spot. They’re half a game ahead of the red-hot Pirates—who’ve won 8 of their last 10—and Padres each. Click HERE to see the Wildcard standings for both the NL & the AL. They are 2-0 so far against the Yanks in 2024 & will be trying to win the season series against them tonight.

-Click HERE to see the list of Mets transactions for July.
-Click HERE to see the Mets' 26-man active roster.
-The Mets' 4-man bench for tonight’s game will consist of Alvarez (R), Iglesias (R), Stewart (L), & Gamel (L).
Here are links to tonight's game:  
Optimus-NY : 7/23/2024 9:29 pm : link
*Courtesy of sportsurge.net*

Mets @ Yankees | 7:05 pm EDT start - July 23, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Mets' feed – WPIX: Gary, Keith, & Ron (strfish.xyz)

Mets @ Yankees | 7:05 pm EDT start - July 23, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Yankees' feed – YES (strfish.xyz)

MLB.com - Gameday: Pitch by Pitch – Mets @ Yankees – July 23, 2024 - 7:05 pm EDT start


Enjoy tonight's game 😊
Check out the Minor League thread for July below:  
Optimus-NY : 7/23/2024 9:31 pm : link
Check out the Minor League thread for July below:

We'll be doing one each month for the rest of the season. It'll be easier to consolidate info this way and for everyone to be able to follow along any news and information centering around the big club's various affiliates.


NFT: Mets Minor Leagues (July) - DanMetroMan - 7/1/2024 10:17 am


*For reference purposes, here are the links for previous months as well:

NFT: Mets Minor League Thread (June) - DanMetroMan - 6/1/2024 10:45 am

NFT: Mets Minor Leagues (May) - DanMetroMan - 5/1/2024 12:15 pm

NFT: Mets Minor League Update (April) - DanMetroMan - 4/2/2024 10:17 am
Remember to check out the Draft thread we've got going folks:  
Optimus-NY : 7/23/2024 9:31 pm : link
Click below for it...

NFT: Mets Draft thread: July 14th to July 16th Optimus-NY | 7/13/2024 | 11:52 am
Here are a couple of useful financial websites:  
Optimus-NY : 7/23/2024 9:33 pm : link
Cot's Baseball Contracts - A Clearinghouse for MLB Salary and Payroll details


RosterResource - Team Payroll - NEW YORK METS PLAYER PAYROLL
Nice to show up, Optimus  
CooperDash : 7/23/2024 9:37 pm : link
Fucking slacker
RE: Nice to show up, Optimus  
Optimus-NY : 7/23/2024 9:40 pm : link
In comment 16557993 CooperDash said:
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Fucking slacker


I know, lol.
Haha. I kid  
CooperDash : 7/23/2024 9:40 pm : link
Love ya, smooches
Sorry for putting the thread up late guys.  
Optimus-NY : 7/23/2024 9:43 pm : link
I put my head down for a short nap right before the lineups came out and then the next thing you know a few hours passed. Old man moment I guess :-(

Sorry guys :-( I feel like a mongo.
RE: Sorry for putting the thread up late guys.  
JayBinQueens : 7/23/2024 9:45 pm : link
In comment 16558002 Optimus-NY said:
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I put my head down for a short nap right before the lineups came out and then the next thing you know a few hours passed. Old man moment I guess :-(

Sorry guys :-( I feel like a mongo.


Happy you're ok
RE: Sorry for putting the thread up late guys.  
Mike in NY : 7/23/2024 9:46 pm : link
In comment 16558002 Optimus-NY said:
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I put my head down for a short nap right before the lineups came out and then the next thing you know a few hours passed. Old man moment I guess :-(

Sorry guys :-( I feel like a mongo.


Told you to have the hi test and not the caffeine free Diet Coke
RE: RE: Sorry for putting the thread up late guys.  
Optimus-NY : 7/23/2024 9:54 pm : link
In comment 16558008 Mike in NY said:
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I put my head down for a short nap right before the lineups came out and then the next thing you know a few hours passed. Old man moment I guess :-(

Sorry guys :-( I feel like a mongo.



Told you to have the hi test and not the caffeine free Diet Coke


lol
Bader  
GF1080 : 7/23/2024 10:11 pm : link
Come on. Really bad.
RE: Bader  
Eric on Li : 7/23/2024 10:11 pm : link
In comment 16558075 GF1080 said:
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Come on. Really bad.


for real. this is going to be a white knuckler. im tempted to just turn it off.
Diekman  
Mike in NY : 7/23/2024 10:13 pm : link
Are we trying to throw this game? Even Danny Young is a better option.
Dickman? Really?  
CooperDash : 7/23/2024 10:13 pm : link
Ugh
Everyone  
GF1080 : 7/23/2024 10:13 pm : link
Hold on to your seats.
RE: Diekman  
Eric on Li : 7/23/2024 10:13 pm : link
In comment 16558082 Mike in NY said:
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Are we trying to throw this game? Even Danny Young is a better option.


diaz threw 28 pitches yesterday. there are no good options, danny young included.
Diekman has to pitch to both Soto and Judge?  
CooperDash : 7/23/2024 10:16 pm : link
What a disaster.
grisham hit that 400 feet and 100 mph  
Eric on Li : 7/23/2024 10:17 pm : link
would have been out in 4 ballparks. not a great start.
RE: Diekman has to pitch to both Soto and Judge?  
Optimus-NY : 7/23/2024 10:18 pm : link
In comment 16558094 CooperDash said:
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What a disaster.


WTF...
i think you have to walk judge here  
Eric on Li : 7/23/2024 10:18 pm : link
but realistically diekman may do that anyway even if he tries not to.
Diekman just struck out Judge  
CooperDash : 7/23/2024 10:20 pm : link
Quick, trade him mid inning while his value is still high
Wow  
GF1080 : 7/23/2024 10:21 pm : link
That was some pitch for the K.
W  
GF1080 : 7/23/2024 10:23 pm : link
Holy crap.
Huh…Diekman closed out the Yankees facing Soto and Judge  
CooperDash : 7/23/2024 10:23 pm : link
TRAID HIM NOW
that went a lot smoother than expected  
Eric on Li : 7/23/2024 10:25 pm : link
they were a lot more aggressi ve pitching to judge than id have been.
Put it in the books!  
Optimus-NY : 7/23/2024 10:28 pm : link

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MLB.com - Gameday Wrap
RE: Huh…Diekman closed out the Yankees facing Soto and Judge  
Optimus-NY : 7/23/2024 10:30 pm : link
In comment 16558114 CooperDash said:
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TRAID HIM NOW


lol
Braves are playing a Day-Night Doubleheader tomorrow at home against  
Optimus-NY : 7/23/2024 10:35 pm : link
the Reds due to their game in Atlanta being postponed today. Great news for the Mets to get the Barfs coming into Flushing off of that.
Check out the scoreboard...  
Optimus-NY : 7/23/2024 10:40 pm : link
6 game are still going on:

MLB.com - Scoreboard for all games on July 23, 2025

-Cubs and Giants are playing now. Rooting or losses for both of them.
-The D-bags are up 6-1 in the middle of the 9th in Kansas City (bad news).
-The Pirates lost to the Cards today (good news).
Jake Deikman....always had confidence.  
dannysection 313 : 7/23/2024 10:49 pm : link
Well, kinda sorta... love taking the series in their house.

Bring out the brooms, though Cole will be much more on his game than last time.

Squirrel out of hibernation.

LFGM



RE: Braves are playing a Day-Night Doubleheader tomorrow at home against  
Blue100 : 7/23/2024 10:51 pm : link
In comment 16558135 Optimus-NY said:
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the Reds due to their game in Atlanta being postponed today. Great news for the Mets to get the Barfs coming into Flushing off of that.


And now without Fried
RE: Braves are playing a Day-Night Doubleheader tomorrow at home against  
dannysection 313 : 7/23/2024 10:51 pm : link
In comment 16558135 Optimus-NY said:
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the Reds due to their game in Atlanta being postponed today. Great news for the Mets to get the Barfs coming into Flushing off of that.


Don't know if the Mets can play well enough to do it, but the Braves are catchable..so banged up, Olsen having a lousy year, two regulars on the interstate, Sale feeling his age.
didnt realize fried was hurt too  
Eric on Li : 7/23/2024 10:55 pm : link
being a pitcher is a crap sandwich. forearm nerve inflammation probably not 3 words any pitcher wants to hear when approaching free agency.
San Diego & the D-backs (just finished) won today.  
Optimus-NY : 7/23/2024 10:57 pm : link
The Mets are in sole possession of the last N.L. Wildcard spot.

RE: didnt realize fried was hurt too  
GF1080 : 7/23/2024 11:02 pm : link
In comment 16558163 Eric on Li said:
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being a pitcher is a crap sandwich. forearm nerve inflammation probably not 3 words any pitcher wants to hear when approaching free agency.


Strider, Acuna, Harris, Fried, Albies all hurt. Riley, Olson, Murphy all under performing. They're not the braves to be scared of right now. Riley is on paternity leave but should be back for our series.
RE: RE: didnt realize fried was hurt too  
Eric on Li : 7/23/2024 11:03 pm : link
In comment 16558173 GF1080 said:
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being a pitcher is a crap sandwich. forearm nerve inflammation probably not 3 words any pitcher wants to hear when approaching free agency.



Strider, Acuna, Harris, Fried, Albies all hurt. Riley, Olson, Murphy all under performing. They're not the braves to be scared of right now. Riley is on paternity leave but should be back for our series.


zack short hero series incoming.
checking in on mcneil  
Eric on Li : 7/23/2024 11:06 pm : link
about 2 weeks ago his rolling 50 xwoba passed league average. obviously he went supernova in the last several days, but good to see he's been trending better in terms of contact quality for most of the year.

Carlos Mendoza Press Conference:  
Optimus-NY : 7/23/2024 11:14 pm : link








-He said there was no news on the Christian Scott front when he was asked at the end.
my guess is they baby scott and it's the right decision  
Eric on Li : 7/23/2024 11:18 pm : link
he's right around 90 innings which is i think already the most he's ever thrown in 1 year.

may even be worth considering putting him in the bp to finish the year. though they'd have to be careful not to overuse him in terms of frequency.
They mentioned the Scott injury again at the end of the SNY Postgame:  
Optimus-NY : 7/23/2024 11:22 pm : link
Nothing new; day-to-day; awaiting further news.


CHRISTIAN SCOTT LANDS ON INJURED LIST WITH UCL SPRAIN - Posted by Evan Mazza | Jul 23, 2024
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Article about tonight's win:  
Optimus-NY : 7/23/2024 11:25 pm : link
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The Mets (52-48) brought down the cross-town rival Yankees (60-43) on Tuesday evening in the Bronx. In a tight matchup, the Mets notched eight hits and left the bases loaded twice but came out on top with a 3-2 win, backed by strong pitching from Jose Quintana and a clutch save from Jake Diekman. The win marks the Mets’ third against the Yankees this year as they look to sweep the season series tomorrow. The Mets are now a season-high four games over .500 and have won 19 of their last 31 games against the Yankees.



METS TRIUMPH OVER YANKEES IN TIGHT 3-2 VICTORY | Posted by Gianna Arantes | July 23, 2024 | MMO.com - ( New Window )
Apologies guys for not starting this Subway Series thread in time for  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 9:08 am : link
the game yesterday. It was almost ready to go from the previous day. I was just waiting on adding to starting lineups to it & then I was just going to copy & paste it all together. It was around that time thought that I turned into one of the Sleepers from the Cave of Ephesus, lol. I wasn't feeling well & took what I intended to be a short nap, but it turned out to be a lot longer than I thought it would.
Check out the Minor League thread for July below:  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 9:13 am : link
We'll be doing one each month for the rest of the season. It'll be easier to consolidate info this way and for everyone to be able to follow along any news and information centering around the big club's various affiliates.


NFT: Mets Minor Leagues (July) - DanMetroMan - 7/1/2024 10:17 am


*For reference purposes, here are the links for previous months as well:

NFT: Mets Minor League Thread (June) - DanMetroMan - 6/1/2024 10:45 am

NFT: Mets Minor Leagues (May) - DanMetroMan - 5/1/2024 12:15 pm

NFT: Mets Minor League Update (April) - DanMetroMan - 4/2/2024 10:17 am
Remember to check out the Draft thread we've got going folks:  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 9:15 am : link
Click below for it...

NFT: Mets Draft thread: July 14th to July 16th Optimus-NY | 7/13/2024 | 11:52 am
NYY are 60-43 and NYM are 52-48  
Metnut : 7/24/2024 9:33 am : link
That's essentially a 6.5 game difference between the teams. Juan Soto has been with 6.3 WAR so far this year. The Mets have had essentially 0 WAR from the RF position.

The ENTIRE difference between the two teams performance in 2024 to date is Juan Soto. It's that simple. Put Soto on the Mets and the records are reversed.

I'm sure Cohen and Stearns are aware of this. Soto is still only 25 years old. Mets should 100% be all-in on Soto (who clearly looks to only want to accept the top bid). Soto isn't going to take a discount to stay with NYY. Cohen should open up the wallet and make him the highest paid player in MLB (for Ohtani's contract we'll only count NPV, not the $700M).
RE: NYY are 60-43 and NYM are 52-48  
Eric on Li : 7/24/2024 9:37 am : link
In comment 16558370 Metnut said:
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That's essentially a 6.5 game difference between the teams. Juan Soto has been with 6.3 WAR so far this year. The Mets have had essentially 0 WAR from the RF position.

The ENTIRE difference between the two teams performance in 2024 to date is Juan Soto. It's that simple. Put Soto on the Mets and the records are reversed.

I'm sure Cohen and Stearns are aware of this. Soto is still only 25 years old. Mets should 100% be all-in on Soto (who clearly looks to only want to accept the top bid). Soto isn't going to take a discount to stay with NYY. Cohen should open up the wallet and make him the highest paid player in MLB (for Ohtani's contract we'll only count NPV, not the $700M).


it's hard for me to see the yankees allowing themselves to lose soto at all but especially to the mets.

it would have been expensive to trade for him (scott, acuna, plus more) but im not sure i would have been able to pass it up. goes without saying if im cohen im putting the literal blank check on the table.
RE: RE: NYY are 60-43 and NYM are 52-48  
KDavies : 7/24/2024 9:47 am : link
In comment 16558380 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 16558370 Metnut said:


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That's essentially a 6.5 game difference between the teams. Juan Soto has been with 6.3 WAR so far this year. The Mets have had essentially 0 WAR from the RF position.

The ENTIRE difference between the two teams performance in 2024 to date is Juan Soto. It's that simple. Put Soto on the Mets and the records are reversed.

I'm sure Cohen and Stearns are aware of this. Soto is still only 25 years old. Mets should 100% be all-in on Soto (who clearly looks to only want to accept the top bid). Soto isn't going to take a discount to stay with NYY. Cohen should open up the wallet and make him the highest paid player in MLB (for Ohtani's contract we'll only count NPV, not the $700M).



it's hard for me to see the yankees allowing themselves to lose soto at all but especially to the mets.

it would have been expensive to trade for him (scott, acuna, plus more) but im not sure i would have been able to pass it up. goes without saying if im cohen im putting the literal blank check on the table.


Mets made a mistake passing on Soto imo. Agreed that I'd be shock if he left
RE: RE: NYY are 60-43 and NYM are 52-48  
GF1080 : 7/24/2024 9:57 am : link
In comment 16558380 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 16558370 Metnut said:


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That's essentially a 6.5 game difference between the teams. Juan Soto has been with 6.3 WAR so far this year. The Mets have had essentially 0 WAR from the RF position.

The ENTIRE difference between the two teams performance in 2024 to date is Juan Soto. It's that simple. Put Soto on the Mets and the records are reversed.

I'm sure Cohen and Stearns are aware of this. Soto is still only 25 years old. Mets should 100% be all-in on Soto (who clearly looks to only want to accept the top bid). Soto isn't going to take a discount to stay with NYY. Cohen should open up the wallet and make him the highest paid player in MLB (for Ohtani's contract we'll only count NPV, not the $700M).



it's hard for me to see the yankees allowing themselves to lose soto at all but especially to the mets.

it would have been expensive to trade for him (scott, acuna, plus more) but im not sure i would have been able to pass it up. goes without saying if im cohen im putting the literal blank check on the table.


Are the yanks really going to have 4 players(Cole, Judge, Soto, Stanton) take up more than half their payroll? That doesn't include total dead weight like Rizzo, DJ, and others.
One other thing maybe worth noting is that  
Metnut : 7/24/2024 10:03 am : link
NYY's offer to Yamamoto was significantly below what NYM and LAD offered. There was some smoke that maybe NYY didn't want to offer someone else more than Judge was making given his status with the team and given that Judge took less than SD offered to stay with NYY.

Soto's contract is going to blow Judge's out of the water. Doubt that stops NYY from trying to keep him, but it's another thing to keep in the back of your head.
RE: RE: RE: NYY are 60-43 and NYM are 52-48  
Eric on Li : 7/24/2024 10:05 am : link
In comment 16558413 GF1080 said:
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Are the yanks really going to have 4 players(Cole, Judge, Soto, Stanton) take up more than half their payroll? That doesn't include total dead weight like Rizzo, DJ, and others.


didnt stop them from offering yamamoto $300m knowing they had soto approaching FA.

nobody was louder about their payroll predicament last offseason than i was, but i just cant imagine they made that trade and then were willing to spend another $30m+ per year on yamamaoto only to not offer soto (same age as yamamoto, less injury risk as a pos player) something absolutely massive.

now if cohen offers something obscene will they match it? idk.

the bigger ? may be will stearns allow himself to offer something obscene and unmatchable? even though they were "all in" he obviously didnt with yamamoto since LAD matched.
RE: One other thing maybe worth noting is that  
Eric on Li : 7/24/2024 10:14 am : link
In comment 16558420 Metnut said:
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NYY's offer to Yamamoto was significantly below what NYM and LAD offered. There was some smoke that maybe NYY didn't want to offer someone else more than Judge was making given his status with the team and given that Judge took less than SD offered to stay with NYY.

Soto's contract is going to blow Judge's out of the water. Doubt that stops NYY from trying to keep him, but it's another thing to keep in the back of your head.


i do think their max yamamoto offer was purposely designed to not exceed Cole's deal, but i think this is a different situation. yamamoto was totally unproven in MLB, soto's career so far has been that of a HOF'er. everyone knows his deal will exceed Judge's deal by a lot.

judge's AAV is $40m, if this is a concern what they could do if they want is just match that AAV and add on years that pays soto through the same age as judge's deal which would mean $40m*15 years = $600m. without factoring deferrals that's the biggest deal ever by over $100m, and it sends no inequitable message re judge.

but i dont think that will be a concern. to trade for soto when they did imo means they had to be prepared to pay close to $500m for him over the next decade+. once committed to that, i dont see why anyone would care so much how they structure the payments.

also remember soto is making $31m this year. so unless this roster construction tanks to the point that they decide they need to make big changes, retaining him is only +10-15m for them vs their present construction. letting torres or verdugo walk pays for the difference.
Eric your points on NYY are well taken but I guess  
Metnut : 7/24/2024 10:36 am : link
the way I see it, if Cohen really wants him, and Stearns is aligned, will Cohen let himself get outbid?

This is a generational player at a position of need. The risk profile here is a lot different here than Yamamoto (as you mentioned above).

NYY might very well keep him, but my point earlier is that the one-year head start they are getting with him isn't going to be worth anything when it comes to Soto's UFA negotiations. Soto is going to the market and all the signs point to zero discount being given to NYY.
RE: Eric your points on NYY are well taken but I guess  
Eric on Li : 7/24/2024 10:39 am : link
In comment 16558496 Metnut said:
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the way I see it, if Cohen really wants him, and Stearns is aligned, will Cohen let himself get outbid?

This is a generational player at a position of need. The risk profile here is a lot different here than Yamamoto (as you mentioned above).

NYY might very well keep him, but my point earlier is that the one-year head start they are getting with him isn't going to be worth anything when it comes to Soto's UFA negotiations. Soto is going to the market and all the signs point to zero discount being given to NYY.


i agree with your logic across the board, here's where i run into doubting the mets can get him.

what is too much for soto? 40m*15 years doesn't seem like too much to me and that's $600m. more than $100m in present day value than ohtani's record setting deal.

i agree cohen wont get out bid but stearns has been extremely disciplined. what kind of offer would he have to make for the yankees to get outbid? i think it might be more than the $600m suggestion above.

i dont think this is as much a question of cohen getting outbid i think it's where do the yankees get outbid and where does stearns believe it's just not good enough value?
Senga ready to go on Friday in Flushing against the Braves:  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 11:21 am : link
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Prior to Tuesday’s game, Kodai Senga said, through his interpreter, “I feel 100% ready, and I’m excited to get back out there.”

Senga threw a bullpen session on Tuesday and is scheduled to make his season debut against the Atlanta Braves on Friday at Citi Field.

After finishing second in the NL Rookie of the Year race last year, Senga was diagnosed with a right shoulder strain in spring training that has kept him sidelined.



MORNING BRIEFING: SENGA IS ‘100% READY’ | Posted by Shaun Chornobroff | July 24, 2024 | MMO.com - ( New Window )
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DanMetroMan : 7/24/2024 11:28 am : link
When looking at the Tigers’ potential trade candidates, the majority of focus is understandably on starting pitchers Jack Flaherty and Tarik Skubal. (The former seems likely to move, the latter does not.) But for all the deserved attention on those arms, Detroit’s roster has several other pieces who could pique the interest of contending clubs. ESPN’s Jeff Passan writes that outfielder/first baseman Mark Canha, for instance, has a “robust” market and could change hands between now and next Tuesday.
What do you guys think about us starting a Mets fans only trade  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 11:45 am : link
deadline discussion thread this weekend? The one below is already up:

NFT: MLB Trade Deadline Thread | capone - 7/21/2024 - 12:59 pm

I was thinking of starting one on Saturday though to focus on our stuff. Is that a good idea? Should we just ride with the one posted above or mix in the two? What do you guys think?
Is MLB doing something special today?  
JayBinQueens : 7/24/2024 1:30 pm : link
Looking at the schedule every game has a different start time
RE: RE: Eric your points on NYY are well taken but I guess  
dannysection 313 : 7/24/2024 2:19 pm : link
In comment 16558507 Eric on Li said:
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the way I see it, if Cohen really wants him, and Stearns is aligned, will Cohen let himself get outbid?

This is a generational player at a position of need. The risk profile here is a lot different here than Yamamoto (as you mentioned above).

NYY might very well keep him, but my point earlier is that the one-year head start they are getting with him isn't going to be worth anything when it comes to Soto's UFA negotiations. Soto is going to the market and all the signs point to zero discount being given to NYY.



i agree with your logic across the board, here's where i run into doubting the mets can get him.

what is too much for soto? 40m*15 years doesn't seem like too much to me and that's $600m. more than $100m in present day value than ohtani's record setting deal.

i agree cohen wont get out bid but stearns has been extremely disciplined. what kind of offer would he have to make for the yankees to get outbid? i think it might be more than the $600m suggestion above.

i dont think this is as much a question of cohen getting outbid i think it's where do the yankees get outbid and where does stearns believe it's just not good enough value?


As mentioned, hard to understand how the Yankees can pay Cole, Judge, Stanton (signed thru 2027) and Soto....but, look at the smoke and mirrors the Dodgers used to pay Ohtani.

Totally agree that Soto is a generational talent...he would make the Mets a different team in many ways, including the selling seats way.

Uncle Steve has been a good boy of late (Yamamoto aside and he didn't sign anyway), hard to believe he'll be outbid.

It's one thing to pay old pitchers (Scherzer, Verlander) tons of $, that comes with real risk...

Soto brings basically no risk...he is a guaranteed stud, over 900 OPS hitter and strong right fielder. And, has marketing potential to the moon.

I also agree that once free agency opens in November, the Yankees will hold no advantage.....
"What happened to Optimus?"  
BigBlueNH : 7/24/2024 2:50 pm : link
was my first thought when I checked in last night and couldn't find a game thread. Glad you're ok.

It was almost like a game without Gary, Keith or Ron. BBI silence.
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Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 3:01 pm : link
In comment 16558782 BigBlueNH said:
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was my first thought when I checked in last night and couldn't find a game thread. Glad you're ok.

It was almost like a game without Gary, Keith or Ron. BBI silence.


Haha! You're too kind. We've got a system going now, so any of us can take over and run it. I just put my head down for a little nap and the next thing you know, like 5 or more hours passed. I was like, WTF? I didn't know where I was or what time it was when I woke up, lol. I haven't been feeling well lately, so it was prolly just my body shutting down and telling me something. Sorry about that though last night. I always look forward to these Subway Series games and beating the Prison Stripers down into the dirt.
..  
Named Later : 7/24/2024 3:10 pm : link
The Mets surge over the past few weeks didn't start with Grimace.

It started with Optimus and his full Series threads !!

Good work Dude !!
RE: RE: RE: Eric your points on NYY are well taken but I guess  
Eric on Li : 7/24/2024 3:13 pm : link
In comment 16558753 dannysection 313 said:
Quote:


As mentioned, hard to understand how the Yankees can pay Cole, Judge, Stanton (signed thru 2027) and Soto....but, look at the smoke and mirrors the Dodgers used to pay Ohtani.

Totally agree that Soto is a generational talent...he would make the Mets a different team in many ways, including the selling seats way.

Uncle Steve has been a good boy of late (Yamamoto aside and he didn't sign anyway), hard to believe he'll be outbid.

It's one thing to pay old pitchers (Scherzer, Verlander) tons of $, that comes with real risk...

Soto brings basically no risk...he is a guaranteed stud, over 900 OPS hitter and strong right fielder. And, has marketing potential to the moon.

I also agree that once free agency opens in November, the Yankees will hold no advantage.....


at the end of the day ohtani's luxury tax salary is highest in baseball for 10 years. 10x450m i think, which is pretty much exactly as projected.

dont need to worry about deferrals like that with soto, he's not taking that deal with anyone.

re how can they afford to pay everyone, they are paying soto $31m right now. so they are showing exactly how. they are doing it and almost 20 games over .500. and had the price on yamamoto not gone as high, and they gotten him they'd have another $300m player on top of it.

i just see no way they aggressively pursued him in the first place if they didnt plan to try to aggressively resign him too. doesnt mean it will happen but they are the favorite and if they want to remain that way all they have to do is similarly be willing to pay whatever it takes.
Rosenthal's  
DanMetroMan : 7/24/2024 3:48 pm : link
list of available bats is pretty ugly lol


Here is a partial list of hitters who at least to some extent are available, according to industry sources briefed on trade discussions:

Tampa Bay Rays: Randy Arozarena, Yandy Díaz, Brandon Lowe, Isaac Paredes.

San Francisco Giants: Michael Conforto, Wilmer Flores, Mike Yastrzemski.

Los Angeles Angels: Taylor Ward, Luis Rengifo.

Baltimore Orioles: Ryan Mountcastle, Cedric Mullins Jr.

Miami Marlins: Jazz Chisholm Jr., Josh Bell.

Washington Nationals: Lane Thomas, Jesse Winker.
RE: ..  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 3:56 pm : link
In comment 16558804 Named Later said:
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The Mets surge over the past few weeks didn't start with Grimace.

It started with Optimus and his full Series threads !!

Good work Dude !!


Did they? lol. When did we start doing these again?

P.S. They're a lot better IMO because we can just consolidate stuff here over a 2 to 4 game span instead of lose momentum conversation-wise from a given singular game-thread to another game-thread.
Lineups for both squads are out now.  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 3:59 pm : link
Gimmee 5 minutes and I'll post today's game info below (I won't fall asleep this time! lol).
.  
DanMetroMan : 7/24/2024 4:00 pm : link
Joel Sherman
@Joelsherman1
The current plan for Christian Scott (elbow) is to rest and then rehab with the hope of returning before the end of the season
RE: .  
Metnut : 7/24/2024 4:02 pm : link
In comment 16558855 DanMetroMan said:
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Joel Sherman
@Joelsherman1
The current plan for Christian Scott (elbow) is to rest and then rehab with the hope of returning before the end of the season


That's absolutely really good news but the pessimist in me worries that he'll somehow still need TJ come spring 2025 and the delay will affect his 2026 season.
RE: RE: ..  
Metnut : 7/24/2024 4:03 pm : link
In comment 16558853 Optimus-NY said:
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In comment 16558804 Named Later said:


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The Mets surge over the past few weeks didn't start with Grimace.

It started with Optimus and his full Series threads !!

Good work Dude !!



Did they? lol. When did we start doing these again?

P.S. They're a lot better IMO because we can just consolidate stuff here over a 2 to 4 game span instead of lose momentum conversation-wise from a given singular game-thread to another game-thread.


He's right. Don't know the exact timing/numbers, but the team was at or near it's low point and it was determined that daily threads wern't needed and that series threads would be preferable. Things have much turned around since then.
Mets @ Yankees: Game 2 – ⚾ Manaea (L) vs. Cole (R) ⚾ – 7:05 pm EDT  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 4:06 pm : link

Starting Lineups for both clubs tonight.
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups for tonight in the BX against the Prison Stripers & tomorrow in Flushing against the Barfs.
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Notes:
-Tonight’s game will be televised exclusively on national television on ESPN. Tomorrow’s game will be back on SNY.
-The forecast for tonight's game in the Bronx looks good during the hours that the game itself is scheduled to be played, but before and afterwards there are thunderstorms and showers expected, so that is something to be aware of as the game goes on. Click HERE to stay updated.
-The Mets are 30-15 since May 30th & are 3-0 against the Yanks so far this season. By virtue of their 3-2 win in Yankee Stadium last night, they’ve won the season series against them. The Mets have won 19 of their last 31 overall games against the Yankees; they’re going for a season-series sweep against the Yankees today in their last game against them this regular season. As of the start of play today, the Mets (52-48) are in sole possession of the third & final N.L. Wildcard spot. They’re half a game ahead of the Padres & one game ahead of the Diamondbacks & Pirates each. Click HERE to see the Wildcard standings for both the NL & the AL.

-Click HERE to see the list of Mets transactions for July.
-Click HERE to see the Mets' 26-man active roster.
-The Mets' 4-man bench for tonight’s game will consist of Torrens (R), Bader (R), Stewart (L), & Gamel (L).
Braves lose first game  
Blue100 : 7/24/2024 4:22 pm : link
And Chris Sale goes in the nightcap.
They have TBD against us tomorrow
We trail them by 2 games as it stands right now........
Per Laura Albanese of Newday  
Metnut : 7/24/2024 5:25 pm : link
Christian Scott said his doctors did not mention the presence of any ligament tear.
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DanMetroMan : 7/24/2024 5:26 pm : link
Another name that could make sense for @mets
(assuming the reports the Reds are shopping their bullpen arms) is Sam Moll. Moll has a 2.94 era/3.07 FIP, 9.7 K/9 over his last 101 appearances
RE: Per Laura Albanese of Newday  
DanMetroMan : 7/24/2024 5:30 pm : link
In comment 16558913 Metnut said:
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Christian Scott said his doctors did not mention the presence of any ligament tear.


Semantics. A sprain is in fact a tear and he's indeed been diagnosed with a sprain. He probably meant full tear.

Tim Healey
@timbhealey
The Mets and Christian Scott will try to avoid elbow surgery, Carlos Mendoza said.

Scott will try the rest-and-rehab route and they’ll see what happens with his sprained UCL. He’ll be shut down for two weeks to start.

"A ulnar collateral ligament (UCL) sprain is a tear to one of the ligaments on the inner side of your elbow. A UCL sprain usually occurs due to a throwing motion – that typically occurs during sports – or after elbow dislocation or surgery."
RE: Braves lose first game  
Metnut : 7/24/2024 5:31 pm : link
In comment 16558872 Blue100 said:
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And Chris Sale goes in the nightcap.
They have TBD against us tomorrow
We trail them by 2 games as it stands right now........


They've changed their mind and are holding Sale back to face the Mets tomorrow.

Never ever expect the Braves to give the Mets an inch of a break.
I get your point but I think even if its technically only a matter of  
Metnut : 7/24/2024 5:33 pm : link
degree (between sprain and tear), a "sprain" can completely heal on its own without surgery. At least that's what a few minutes of googling and reading articles from UPenn and Johns Hopkin med school say.
Sure  
DanMetroMan : 7/24/2024 5:34 pm : link
sounds as if this is something he is going to manage and not something they expect to heal on it's own

"SNY
@SNYtv
"I want to be able to to come out and help this team compete and win a World Series. I can't do that throwing 8 innings and being shut down in August"

Christian Scott was asked if his UCL injury is something he'll have to manage for the rest of his career:"
Yeah  
DanMetroMan : 7/24/2024 5:35 pm : link
even Mendoza's quote seems to confirm that.



Tim Healey
@timbhealey
The Mets and Christian Scott will try to avoid elbow surgery, Carlos Mendoza said.

Scott will try the rest-and-rehab route and they’ll see what happens with his sprained UCL. He’ll be shut down for two weeks to start.
RE: RE: Braves lose first game  
Blue100 : 7/24/2024 5:49 pm : link
In comment 16558924 Metnut said:
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In comment 16558872 Blue100 said:


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And Chris Sale goes in the nightcap.
They have TBD against us tomorrow
We trail them by 2 games as it stands right now........



They've changed their mind and are holding Sale back to face the Mets tomorrow.

Never ever expect the Braves to give the Mets an inch of a break.


Now the second game is rained out......Braves did not want to play tonight....
Some  
DanMetroMan : 7/24/2024 6:01 pm : link
Buzz the Braves are looking to make a major trade but they have limited ammo prospect wise
RE: Sure  
Named Later : 7/24/2024 6:41 pm : link
In comment 16558928 DanMetroMan said:
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sounds as if this is something he is going to manage and not something they expect to heal on it's own

"SNY
@SNYtv
"I want to be able to to come out and help this team compete and win a World Series. I can't do that throwing 8 innings and being shut down in August"

Christian Scott was asked if his UCL injury is something he'll have to manage for the rest of his career:"

If I recall, Scott had this problem late last season also. They had to shut him down for a few weeks, but he came back and pitched in the Playoffs. I don't know if this is going to be a chronic problem with the kid.....but I sure hope he works his way thru it.
Here are links to tonight's game:  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 7:00 pm : link
*Courtesy of sportsurge.net*

Mets @ Yankees | 7:05 pm EDT start - July 24, 2024 – TV Broadcast: National TV feed – ESPN (strfish.xyz)

MLB.com - Gameday: Pitch by Pitch – Mets @ Yankees – July 24, 2024 - 7:05 pm EDT start


Enjoy tonight's game 😊
Interesting stat...  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 7:05 pm : link
Not a fluke...  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 7:10 pm : link
And AWAAAY we go!  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 7:11 pm : link
I can already here the "Yankees suck!" chant from the Mets fans in the crowd, lol.
Meant to post this  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 7:12 pm : link
Sorry...

..  
Named Later : 7/24/2024 7:26 pm : link
Francisco Lindor moves up to bat Leadoff on May 18th. He needs a week to acclimate himself, and Away We Go !!
Ok guys  
porkman : 7/24/2024 7:37 pm : link
I'm driving up from DC for the game against the Braves tomorrow, and have had 2 friends cancel. Result is I have an extra ticket to the game. Who would appreciate more than one of you die-hard Mets fans? Let me know if anyone wants it. Good news is it's a free ticket, bad news is you sit next to me, haha. Email is in my profile.
HOLY $hit!  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 7:47 pm : link
Taylor hit that one to the frikkin moon!
Pete  
GF1080 : 7/24/2024 8:14 pm : link
Polar bear heating up perhaps!
3 of the 4 SP matchups for the Braves series are set:  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 8:22 pm : link
Game 1:
Luis Severino
RHP
7-3, 3.58 ERA, 88 SO

vs.

Chris Sale
LHP
13-3, 2.70 ERA, 140 SO


Game 2:
Kodai Senga
RHP
0-0, -.-- ERA, 0 SO

vs.

Charlie Morton
RHP
5-5, 3.92 ERA, 101 SO


Game 3:
TBD

vs.

Spencer Schwellenbach
RHP
3-5, 4.62 ERA, 49 SO


Game 4:
David Peterson
LHP
5-0, 3.14 ERA, 36 SO

vs.

Reynaldo López
RHP
7-4, 2.12 ERA, 100 SO

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-Let's see who gets the start for the Mets on Saturday afternoon. Butto? Megill? Lucchesi? Andy Martino (@martinonyc) is saying that Megill is most likely to get the start on Saturday. Click HERE to see the tweet and watch the short video on X.
-Chris Sale is getting the start for the Braves tomorrow. He was supposed to pitch today for the Braves but it was postponed. You can read about it HERE.
Lindor  
GF1080 : 7/24/2024 8:25 pm : link
Second deck!
Cole LOVES to get spankings from the Mets!  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 8:25 pm : link
OMG! lol
The Prison Stripers meet The Reaper...  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 8:27 pm : link
Too bad Lindor will never live up to  
Section331 : 7/24/2024 8:30 pm : link
that contract! 😆
Can we have a pitcher  
Mike in NY : 7/24/2024 8:38 pm : link
That can give us more than 5 innings?
...  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 8:38 pm : link
Quote:
John Saponaro
@JohnSaponaro

So far, Karl Ravech has said:
• Harrison Bader is hurt, he’s not
• Mets BP is short today, it’s not
• Christian Scott is a RP, he’s not
The world wide leader, indeed 🙄

#LGM #RepBx

8:21 PM · Jul 24, 2024 · 1,263 Views




John Saponaro @JohnSaponaro - 8:21 PM · Jul 24, 2024 · 1,263 Views - ( New Window )
RE: ...  
Mike in NY : 7/24/2024 8:40 pm : link
In comment 16559060 Optimus-NY said:
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Quote:


John Saponaro
@JohnSaponaro

So far, Karl Ravech has said:
• Harrison Bader is hurt, he’s not
• Mets BP is short today, it’s not
• Christian Scott is a RP, he’s not
The world wide leader, indeed 🙄

#LGM #RepBx

8:21 PM · Jul 24, 2024 · 1,263 Views



John Saponaro @JohnSaponaro - 8:21 PM · Jul 24, 2024 · 1,263 Views - ( New Window )


I mean I doubt the team would like to throw Diekman today. Probably going to need 3 innings between Danny Young, Buttó, Núñez
Why bring our worst reliever in with the bases loaded  
Metnut : 7/24/2024 8:41 pm : link
?
Mets need to make a deal for situations like this.  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 8:43 pm : link
Go get A.J. Puk from the Marlenes.
RE: Mets need to make a deal for situations like this.  
Eric on Li : 7/24/2024 8:54 pm : link
In comment 16559069 Optimus-NY said:
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Go get A.J. Puk from the Marlenes.


that's the guy i hope they get. id also inquire with texas re robertson. they are 3 games under so not sure they sell.
Good hit by Taylor  
Ira : 7/24/2024 8:59 pm : link
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Taylor  
GF1080 : 7/24/2024 9:01 pm : link
3-3 and frustrates Kermit right out of the game.
RE: Taylor  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 9:03 pm : link
In comment 16559083 GF1080 said:
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3-3 and frustrates Kermit right out of the game.


lol



The Mets are Cole's daddy!
Taylor doing it with the bat and glove.  
Ira : 7/24/2024 9:07 pm : link
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whichever mongo did this  
Eric on Li : 7/24/2024 9:21 pm : link
well done.

RE: whichever mongo did this  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 9:24 pm : link
In comment 16559098 Eric on Li said:
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well done.



Mongo-rific!
Well done, Mr. Young!  
BigBlueNH : 7/24/2024 9:34 pm : link
Much needed. Keep up the good work.
Hey Eric, what do you think of this deal the mooks from MMO.com  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 9:34 pm : link
came up with for Puk?

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Mets Receive:

A.J. Puk
Marlins Receive:

Dom Hamel (Mets No. 13 prospect via MLB Pipeline, No. 10 via BA)
Nick Morabito (Mets No. 25 prospect via MLB Pipeline, unranked via BA)


TRADE PROFILE: A.J. PUK, LHP | Posted by Mathias Altman-Kurosaki | Jul 24, 2024 | MMO.com

Puk's contract is awesome (click [url=https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/player/_/id/20671/aj-puk#:~:text=A.J.%20Puk%20signed%20a%201%20year%20%2C%20%24736%2C000%20contract%20with%20the,average%20annual%20salary%20of%20%24736%2C000.]HERE[/url] for it). He just turned 29 and is only making 1.8 million this year. He won't be a FA until after the 2026 season. The Mets would be getting this giants southpaw for 2 and a third seasons. He's Pete's old buddy from the University of Florida too.
Sorry about the bad url link attempt above  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 9:37 pm : link
Here it is below:


A.J. Puk - Spotrac - Contract - ( New Window )
Vientos...wow  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 9:38 pm : link
Baty's gonna have to do a lot to get his 3B job back, lol (or hope Pete leaves in Free Agency).
vientos got off to the hot start and had some good luck  
Eric on Li : 7/24/2024 9:42 pm : link
k rate has been going up but the contact quality keeps getting better.

Yankees Stadium is the Mets' Stadium  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 9:47 pm : link
Prison Stripers are trash.
Whoopin  
GF1080 : 7/24/2024 9:47 pm : link
That stanky ass.
Good to see us beating up on a shitty team like this  
Rob in Rockaway : 7/24/2024 9:49 pm : link
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Lindor is a true all star and maybe mvp  
Ira : 7/24/2024 9:50 pm : link
!!!
Can’t wait to see how Soto looks in this lineup  
Metnut : 7/24/2024 9:51 pm : link
I’m sure he’s looking forward to having a better chance to win too
RE: Hey Eric, what do you think of this deal the mooks from MMO.com  
Eric on Li : 7/24/2024 9:53 pm : link
In comment 16559118 Optimus-NY said:
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came up with for Puk?



Quote:


Mets Receive:

A.J. Puk
Marlins Receive:

Dom Hamel (Mets No. 13 prospect via MLB Pipeline, No. 10 via BA)
Nick Morabito (Mets No. 25 prospect via MLB Pipeline, unranked via BA)



TRADE PROFILE: A.J. PUK, LHP | Posted by Mathias Altman-Kurosaki | Jul 24, 2024 | MMO.com

Puk's contract is awesome (click [url=https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/player/_/id/20671/aj-puk#:~:text=A.J.%20Puk%20signed%20a%201%20year%20%2C%20%24736%2C000%20contract%20with%20the,average%20annual%20salary%20of%20%24736%2C000.]HERE[/url] for it). He just turned 29 and is only making 1.8 million this year. He won't be a FA until after the 2026 season. The Mets would be getting this giants southpaw for 2 and a third seasons. He's Pete's old buddy from the University of Florida too.


thats the right value range - i like morabito and would prefer to give up someone upper minors, i wouldnt want to give up lower minors guys. dan would have a more educated opinion than me, but id view that return not so far off what marlins gave up for robertson last year, who i think is in a different category of reliever. i think it's the right range id just rather give up someone less interesting than morabito (like ramirez, who i think is ranked similarly in most rankings).
Too bad there ain't a mercy rule.  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 9:58 pm : link
It's always fun to watch the Mets go ham on these b!tche$.
RE: Whoopin  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 9:59 pm : link
In comment 16559132 GF1080 said:
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That stanky ass.


Whoipin it like dey us $$$!
The Yankees thread is pretty funny  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 10:04 pm : link
Calling this the Mets' World Series, lol.
The Braves series  
spike : 7/24/2024 10:06 pm : link
coming up is more important. We want homefield advantage in the WC series against them as the no 4 seed.
There's lotsa salt in the Prison Stripers fans' water, lol:  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 10:08 pm : link
Quote:
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BleedBlue : mute : 9:47 pm : link : reply
This is the Mets World Series.

They never win shit so let em enjoy it



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A team that’s somehow ten games worse than the Yankees is acting like
shockeyisthebest8056 : mute : 9:50 pm : link : reply
they’re winning the World Series tonight. Just a pack of losers.

And the Yankees are even bigger losers because they’re spineless & lifeless
They should  
spike : 7/24/2024 10:11 pm : link
rest some guys for the ninth inning, like Alvarez.
RE: They should  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 10:12 pm : link
In comment 16559156 spike said:
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rest some guys for the ninth inning, like Alvarez.


Agreed. One of us could go into the game at this point and still hold onto this win, lol.
RE: The Yankees thread is pretty funny  
Rob in Rockaway : 7/24/2024 10:13 pm : link
In comment 16559150 Optimus-NY said:
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Calling this the Mets' World Series, lol.


Really too bad we can't slap this dogshit team around for a few more games.
RE: RE: The Yankees thread is pretty funny  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 10:17 pm : link
In comment 16559159 Rob in Rockaway said:
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Calling this the Mets' World Series, lol.



Really too bad we can't slap this dogshit team around for a few more games.


That'd be too easy...YET FUN!
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MLB.com - Gameday Wrap
Haha, fucking love it!  
speedywheels : 7/24/2024 10:51 pm : link
Yanks were supposed to be WS contenders and they got FUCKING SWEPT by the supposedly inferior Mets.

Yankee fans can FUCKING SUCK IT! Bunch a fucking losers. They’ve got judge and Soto and NOTHING else. And their fans can also fucking suck it! Such a bunch of whiners. Waaaaaa!!
CooperDash and I made cameos on their "thread"  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 10:57 pm : link
Yes, I'm a child, lol.
not to rain on parade but sounds like IL maybe in bader's future  
Eric on Li : 7/24/2024 11:06 pm : link
he's struggled lately but wonder if Acuna gets a call. If Bader is down they could use another CF-capable player.

Andy Martino
@martinonyc
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Mets’ Harrison Bader is dealing with some kind of ankle injury. Unsure of the severity
Andy Martino
@martinonyc
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2m
He is wearing a boot.
RE: CooperDash and I made cameos on their  
CooperDash : 7/24/2024 11:12 pm : link
In comment 16559193 Optimus-NY said:
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Yes, I'm a child, lol.


Fuck’em. There’s a reason why Yankee fans are amongst the most hated fans globally. Most of them are pretentious fucking pricks. These wins are worth the price of their tears.
RE: RE: CooperDash and I made cameos on their  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 11:16 pm : link
In comment 16559199 CooperDash said:
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In comment 16559193 Optimus-NY said:


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Yes, I'm a child, lol.



Fuck’em. There’s a reason why Yankee fans are amongst the most hated fans globally. Most of them are pretentious fucking pricks. These wins are worth the price of their tears.



+1 million

They've always been pricks...

RE: CooperDash and I made cameos on their  
speedywheels : 7/25/2024 12:00 am : link
In comment 16559193 Optimus-NY said:
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Yes, I'm a child, lol.


Nonsense - you are awesome for doing that, lol…
RE: RE: CooperDash and I made cameos on their  
Optimus-NY : 7/25/2024 12:06 am : link
In comment 16559218 speedywheels said:
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In comment 16559193 Optimus-NY said:


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Yes, I'm a child, lol.



Nonsense - you are awesome for doing that, lol…


Such tough guys  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/25/2024 12:44 am : link
coming from the guys who don't allow posters from the other team in your thread.

LOL. Woops, I broke the rule.
Lol  
CooperDash : 7/25/2024 12:45 am : link
Someone is broken tonight. Yankee fans take losing so hard LOLOLOL
RE: Lol  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/25/2024 12:46 am : link
In comment 16559242 CooperDash said:
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Someone is broken tonight. Yankee fans take losing so hard LOLOLOL


Typical fan of a team that isn't even the top franchise in their own market. LOL.
RE: RE: Lol  
CooperDash : 7/25/2024 12:47 am : link
In comment 16559244 Dave in Hoboken said:
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In comment 16559242 CooperDash said:


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Someone is broken tonight. Yankee fans take losing so hard LOLOLOL



Typical fan of a team that isn't even the top franchise in their own market. LOL.


27 RINGSSSSSSSSSS
RE: RE: RE: Lol  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/25/2024 12:48 am : link
In comment 16559245 CooperDash said:
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In comment 16559244 Dave in Hoboken said:


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In comment 16559242 CooperDash said:


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Someone is broken tonight. Yankee fans take losing so hard LOLOLOL



Typical fan of a team that isn't even the top franchise in their own market. LOL.



27 RINGSSSSSSSSSS


LOL. Talk about "rent free."
Oh wait - that’s the Yankee fan response  
CooperDash : 7/25/2024 12:48 am : link
I got confused.
You being confused isn't anything shocking.  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/25/2024 12:49 am : link
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RE: You being confused isn't anything shocking.  
CooperDash : 7/25/2024 12:51 am : link
In comment 16559248 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Have to be honest…I absolutely love (and not shocked) how easily triggered you are. Wanna keep going? It’s just too easy.
RE: RE: You being confused isn't anything shocking.  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/25/2024 12:52 am : link
In comment 16559249 CooperDash said:
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Have to be honest…I absolutely love (and not shocked) how easily triggered you are. Wanna keep going? It’s just too easy.


Says the guy who's first thing on his mind is the opposing team's thread.

That's rich.
RE: RE: RE: You being confused isn't anything shocking.  
CooperDash : 7/25/2024 12:55 am : link
In comment 16559250 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Have to be honest…I absolutely love (and not shocked) how easily triggered you are. Wanna keep going? It’s just too easy.



Says the guy who's first thing on his mind is the opposing team's thread.

That's rich.


You mean the thread that you weren’t even part of until a Mets fan dared to enter your domain? POSER

Lemme guess…you are the typical 5 foot 6 napoleon complex Yankees fan, right? Yeah, you know I’m right. I bet you are wearing Derek Jeter jammies right now, right? lol, classic.
Welp, that was easy, and boring.  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/25/2024 12:57 am : link
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Yeah, I’m right  
CooperDash : 7/25/2024 12:59 am : link
Thought so…typical.
You really got me there...  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/25/2024 1:05 am : link
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I think I did  
CooperDash : 7/25/2024 1:14 am : link
Nailed it
The usual  
MyNameIsMyName : 7/25/2024 6:29 am : link
Yankee douchebag Dave at it again I see.
Beating the Yankees twice in each ballpark was very satisfying, but  
Ira : 7/25/2024 9:44 am : link
that just set the stage for the next series with the Braves. Atlanta is very banged up and we have to take advantage of that and win the series.
...  
Optimus-NY : 7/25/2024 10:28 am : link
The Bronx is burning apparently, lol  
Optimus-NY : 7/25/2024 10:31 am : link
Mongos gone wild!


Mets, Yankees fans throw punches, tackles in wild, chaotic Subway Series brawl - By Christian Arnold - Published July 24, 2024, 11:28 p.m. ET - NYPost.com - ( New Window )
Highlights are below for anyone who missed the game yesterday:  
Optimus-NY : 7/25/2024 10:39 am : link
Mets @ Yankees full game highlights from 7/24/24


Mets vs. Yankees Game Highlights (7/24/24) | MLB Highlights - MLB YouTube Channel - ( New Window )
RE: The Bronx is burning apparently, lol  
CooperDash : 7/25/2024 10:49 am : link
In comment 16559411 Optimus-NY said:
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Mongos gone wild!
Mets, Yankees fans throw punches, tackles in wild, chaotic Subway Series brawl - By Christian Arnold - Published July 24, 2024, 11:28 p.m. ET - NYPost.com - ( New Window )


Male Yankees fan assaulting a woman? Then ripping off his Yankee jersey to fight and then flex in front of the camera? If this isn’t the most Yankee thing ever, I don’t know what is. Totally on brand. Looks like Dave had a rough night.
RE: RE: The Bronx is burning apparently, lol  
Optimus-NY : 7/25/2024 11:00 am : link
In comment 16559445 CooperDash said:
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Mongos gone wild!
Mets, Yankees fans throw punches, tackles in wild, chaotic Subway Series brawl - By Christian Arnold - Published July 24, 2024, 11:28 p.m. ET - NYPost.com - ( New Window )



Male Yankees fan assaulting a woman? Then ripping off his Yankee jersey to fight and then flex in front of the camera? If this isn’t the most Yankee thing ever, I don’t know what is. Totally on brand. Looks like Dave had a rough night.


Tough guys from the mean streets of Westchester...

P.S. The Yankees thread seems to have disappeared, lol.
RE: RE: RE: You being confused isn't anything shocking.  
Section331 : 7/25/2024 11:52 am : link
In comment 16559250 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Have to be honest…I absolutely love (and not shocked) how easily triggered you are. Wanna keep going? It’s just too easy.



Says the guy who's first thing on his mind is the opposing team's thread.

That's rich.


You do realize what thread you’re on, right? At least you’re man enough to come on after your team got its ass kicked, so I’ll give you that.
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Rory : 7/25/2024 12:05 pm : link
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Francisco Lindor MVP/HOF as a Met surge is officially on  
Eric on Li : 7/25/2024 12:48 pm : link
if you look at his month by month he was basically "typical francisco lindor" each of the first 3 months, minus the batting average in april. he was hitting his usual 4-5 homers and 10-15 xbh with his typically solid k-rate/walk rate.

in july he's had a homer surge, though not necessarily an XBH surge, however the big thing is look at those walks and k's. he is absolutely locked in.





contact quality has been good all year but that ASG snub has seemingly fueled him to reach another level.



in terms of Met history he's now put himself in position to pass Piazza on the mets all time war leaderboard by the end of next year in like 200 fewer games. he turns 31 in the offseason and he will only be 2-3 more "typical francisco lindor" (non-mvp) seasons away from being 2nd most valuable player in mets history.

I thought the NYY fans basically stayed off the NYM  
Metnut : 7/25/2024 12:56 pm : link
threads when the Mets were awful earlier this year so it would probably be the right thing to let them blow off some steam on their own thread after they got their asses kicked by the Mets and leave them alone.

We're all Giants fans after all.
pretty amazingly overall lindor is still the unluckiest met also  
Eric on Li : 7/25/2024 12:59 pm : link
while leading the team in contact quality.



just as amazing is that the offense is doing what it's doing with Pete having his worst year by a big margin. lowest barrel rate, lowest x&actual woba,, lowest avg ev, add all that up and no surprise lowest xslug. in the likely event that lindor cools down they will need pete/jdm to step up and carry things again.


every time I see that chart I am amazed how far above  
KDavies : 7/25/2024 1:07 pm : link
everyone else David Wright is, even with all the injuries
RE: every time I see that chart I am amazed how far above  
Eric on Li : 7/25/2024 1:10 pm : link
In comment 16559640 KDavies said:
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everyone else David Wright is, even with all the injuries


yeah i mean he was on the exact same track lindor is career wise through age 30. age 31 everything fell apart.

through age 30 wright was right at 50 fwar, lindor is at 51.4 fwar. wright didnt even accumulate 1 fwar after age 31.
RE: RE: every time I see that chart I am amazed how far above  
GF1080 : 7/25/2024 1:33 pm : link
In comment 16559644 Eric on Li said:
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everyone else David Wright is, even with all the injuries



yeah i mean he was on the exact same track lindor is career wise through age 30. age 31 everything fell apart.

through age 30 wright was right at 50 fwar, lindor is at 51.4 fwar. wright didnt even accumulate 1 fwar after age 31.


HOF track to nothing. :(
RE: The Yankees thread is pretty funny  
Rory : 7/25/2024 1:46 pm : link
In comment 16559150 Optimus-NY said:
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Calling this the Mets' World Series, lol.


wait did it get deleted? I went to read through it again
RE: RE: The Yankees thread is pretty funny  
Optimus-NY : 7/25/2024 2:16 pm : link
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Calling this the Mets' World Series, lol.



wait did it get deleted? I went to read through it again


It got deleted.
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DanMetroMan : 7/25/2024 3:57 pm : link
Martín Gallegos
@MartinJGallegos
Per source, A's will place All-Star closer Mason Miller on the injured list today with a fracture of the fifth metacarpal (pinkie) in his left hand. It's a non-pitching injury he suffered after pounding a padded training room table in frustration following Monday night's win.
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Eric on Li : 7/25/2024 4:02 pm : link
In comment 16559789 DanMetroMan said:
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Martín Gallegos
@MartinJGallegos
Per source, A's will place All-Star closer Mason Miller on the injured list today with a fracture of the fifth metacarpal (pinkie) in his left hand. It's a non-pitching injury he suffered after pounding a padded training room table in frustration following Monday night's win.


that stinks. i guess it wasnt certain they were going to trade him but presumably every other reliever gets more competitive now.
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DanMetroMan : 7/25/2024 4:05 pm : link
Anthony DiComo
@AnthonyDiComo
Starling Marte (bone bruise in right knee) says he hopes to begin a running program this week. He expects to go on a minor league rehab assignment before activation, so it's still going to be a while yet.
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Optimus-NY : 7/25/2024 4:14 pm : link
In comment 16559794 DanMetroMan said:
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Anthony DiComo
@AnthonyDiComo
Starling Marte (bone bruise in right knee) says he hopes to begin a running program this week. He expects to go on a minor league rehab assignment before activation, so it's still going to be a while yet.


Here's a clip from X of him actually speaking in English (*weird, lol*) about his injury situation:

SNY @SNYtv - 3:29 PM · Jul 25, 2024 · 7,380 Views
Does anyone know what Mason Miller  
pjcas18 : 7/25/2024 4:14 pm : link
was mad about?

I have him on my FB team. Looks like he pitched 1 inning Monday and allowed no hits or walks and his team won.

He threw 11 pitches, 7 for strikes.

Doesn't seem like a "pound a training table in frustration" performance.

RE: Does anyone know what Mason Miller  
DanMetroMan : 7/25/2024 4:20 pm : link
In comment 16559799 pjcas18 said:
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was mad about?

I have him on my FB team. Looks like he pitched 1 inning Monday and allowed no hits or walks and his team won.

He threw 11 pitches, 7 for strikes.

Doesn't seem like a "pound a training table in frustration" performance.


Martín Gallegos
@MartinJGallegos
Important clarification on Mason Miller injury: he did not pound the table out of frustration. He put his hand down awkwardly on the training table while getting ready to do an exercise.
RE: RE: Does anyone know what Mason Miller  
pjcas18 : 7/25/2024 4:23 pm : link
In comment 16559803 DanMetroMan said:
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was mad about?

I have him on my FB team. Looks like he pitched 1 inning Monday and allowed no hits or walks and his team won.

He threw 11 pitches, 7 for strikes.

Doesn't seem like a "pound a training table in frustration" performance.




Martín Gallegos
@MartinJGallegos
Important clarification on Mason Miller injury: he did not pound the table out of frustration. He put his hand down awkwardly on the training table while getting ready to do an exercise.


that makes more sense. thanks.
Although  
pjcas18 : 7/25/2024 4:26 pm : link
baseball players get injured in the weirdest ways.
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Eric on Li : 7/25/2024 4:29 pm : link
In comment 16559798 Optimus-NY said:
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Anthony DiComo
@AnthonyDiComo
Starling Marte (bone bruise in right knee) says he hopes to begin a running program this week. He expects to go on a minor league rehab assignment before activation, so it's still going to be a while yet.



Here's a clip from X of him actually speaking in English (*weird, lol*) about his injury situation:

SNY @SNYtv - 3:29 PM · Jul 25, 2024 · 7,380 Views


i cannot remember a stranger injury situation over the last 3 years than marte.

2022 = supposedly plays with double groin injury, has all star season

2023 = gets offseason surgery which was supposed to make things better that instead made him even less mobile, has the migraine issue, the neck issue, probably other stuff im not remembering

2024 = comes back perhaps even more athletically diminished, can still hit thankfully, then has this weird knee issue

it's not cespedes falling off the horse but it's all very strange.
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Optimus-NY : 7/25/2024 4:36 pm : link
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Anthony DiComo
@AnthonyDiComo
Starling Marte (bone bruise in right knee) says he hopes to begin a running program this week. He expects to go on a minor league rehab assignment before activation, so it's still going to be a while yet.



Here's a clip from X of him actually speaking in English (*weird, lol*) about his injury situation:

SNY @SNYtv - 3:29 PM · Jul 25, 2024 · 7,380 Views



i cannot remember a stranger injury situation over the last 3 years than marte.

2022 = supposedly plays with double groin injury, has all star season

2023 = gets offseason surgery which was supposed to make things better that instead made him even less mobile, has the migraine issue, the neck issue, probably other stuff im not remembering

2024 = comes back perhaps even more athletically diminished, can still hit thankfully, then has this weird knee issue

it's not cespedes falling off the horse but it's all very strange.


I'm not saying he ain't hurt, BUT...I think he's milking this injury as long as possible so he doesn't get traded during the deadline. Once the deadline has passed, no more problem as far as that's concerned. Just my theory...
RE: Although  
Ira : 7/25/2024 4:38 pm : link
In comment 16559809 pjcas18 said:
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baseball players get injured in the weirdest ways.


Especially closers. ;)
This Mason Miller thing is wild.  
Optimus-NY : 7/25/2024 4:51 pm : link
Reminds of (different sport and no trade deadline) when Brian Leetch broke his ankle stepping out of a NYC cab back in 1993.
FYI - I'll have the Braves series thread up in about 10 minutes or so.  
Optimus-NY : 7/25/2024 4:54 pm : link
I won't fall asleep this time, lol.
The new thread for the Braves series is now up (click below).  
Optimus-NY : 7/25/2024 5:18 pm : link
Time to leave these Prison Stripers losers behind, lol.


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