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New York Giants Training Camp Updates - July 24, 2024

Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 8:10 am
Wednesday, July 24, 2024

General Manager Joe Schoen & Head Coach Brian Daboll Available – Approx. 9:15 a.m.

Practice – 10:00 a.m. – 11:30 a.m.

Players Available – Approx. 11:40 a.m.
Elumenor kicking out to RT  
Doubledeuce22 : 7/24/2024 9:20 am : link
Per Art
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 9:20 am : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
Malik Nabers still in No. 9, btw.
Would imagine this decision gets pushed all the way to late August and final cuts.
Hope we don't confuse Nabers with Graham Gano out on the field. #NYGiants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 9:21 am : link
GiantsWFAN
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#Giants100 - Schoen says Neal (ankle) has to get healthy and the rest will take care of itself.."he's not far..been working all summer"
I have a feeling Ezeudu is going to play well at OG  
Doubledeuce22 : 7/24/2024 9:21 am : link
And Neal might be done
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 9:22 am : link
Dan Salomone
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Joe Schoen said they’re focused on Evan Neal “day by day.” He’s “not far” from getting healthy. When he’s ready to go, he’ll be out there. “He’s going to do everything he can and has been doing everything he can.”
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 9:23 am : link
GiantsWFAN
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#Giants100 - Daboll says Neal is a RT at this point
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 9:23 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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Jermaine Eluemunor goes to RT until Evan Neal is back, Daboll says #Giants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 9:24 am : link
Dan Salomone
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Daniel Jones has been cleared for 11-on-11 drills. “He’s getting all the reps” with the ones, Daboll said.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 9:24 am : link
GiantsWFAN
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#Giants100 - Daboll says Jones is ready to go and will do 11 on 11 and see how it goes each day...will work with starters and see how he feels
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 9:25 am : link
GiantsWFAN
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#Giants100 - Daboll says Stinnie will work as starting guard while Eleumunor is at tackle
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 9:26 am : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
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Daboll said Jermaine Eluemunor will be at right tackle to start training camp today. “We’ll see how it goes.” Aaron Stinnie will take over at the other guard spot. They will evaluate it every day.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 9:26 am : link
GiantsWFAN
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#Giants100 - Schoen says it is fair to say "we need better" from Jones this season
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 9:27 am : link
GiantsWFAN
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#Giants100 - Daboll says he will call plays at camp but still undecided about the season
Sounds like Stinnie at LG and Runyan at RG  
nygiants16 : 7/24/2024 9:28 am : link
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Stinnie was signed precisely for this  
Jaenyg : 7/24/2024 9:28 am : link
If Eleumenor had to shift out to RT…
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UberAlias : 7/24/2024 9:29 am : link
In comment 16558346 Eric from BBI said:
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GiantsWFAN
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#Giants100 - Daboll says he will call plays at camp but still undecided about the season
Yeah, right. It's kind of silly at this point. Just come out and declare it.
Eleumunor  
Jaenyg : 7/24/2024 9:29 am : link
Wish I could spell…
I wonder if Matt Nelson is healthy  
UberAlias : 7/24/2024 9:31 am : link
Keep him at Swing tackle and kick Ezeudu back inside would be my choice.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 9:31 am : link
Patricia Traina
@Patricia_Traina
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Daboll said they changed up some things for camp this year.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 9:31 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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Schoen says whether Daniel Jones’ $23M injury guarantee for 2025 affects his playing time is ‘ways down the road.’

Going day by day now.

All makes sense. Who knows what record will be?

Certainly didnt say no repeat of Russell Wilson situation here. #Giants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 9:32 am : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
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Daboll said they’re still “working through” a final play-calling decision. They will treat camp like spring when he handled it.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 9:32 am : link
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Schoen says he wishes Hard Knocks would have shown the work Kevin Abrams and Ed Triggs did with Brian Burns contract negotiations
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 9:32 am : link
Dan Salomone
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Daboll said they’re going to use Malik Nabers “in a variety of spots. … I look forward to watching him.”
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 9:33 am : link
GiantsWFAN
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#Giants100 - Schoen says ARobonson is still trying to make it back....no timeline
Not to worry fellas  
ATL_Giants : 7/24/2024 9:33 am : link
Steph Curry had early career ankle injuries that needed to heal before he became an all time legendary player.

I think we've got pretty much the same situation here with Neal.

/sarcasm
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 9:33 am : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
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Schoen said they’re rooting for Aaron Robinson. He’s doing everything he can to get back.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 9:33 am : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
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Schoen said rookie TE Theo Johnson should be back “soon.”
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 9:34 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants100 - Schoen says was never an option this offseason to trade slayton
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 9:34 am : link
GiantsWFAN
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#Giants100 - Schoen says was never an option this offseason to trade slayton
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 9:36 am : link
GiantsWFAN
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#Giants100 - Daboll says he has no concerns about Nabers mindset....has much to tearn but loves all things about him
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 9:36 am : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
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Daboll “We’re excited about getting started, to find out about our 2024 team”
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 9:38 am : link
GiantsWFAN
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#Giants100 - Daboll says it was valuable for the backup QBs to get reps in the spring. maybe Lock will get a few #1 reps when Jones takes a breather
schoen says sun overnight before FA they hammered out the burns deal  
Eric on Li : 7/24/2024 9:41 am : link
and then monday dragged because carolina was changing the terms of the deal they'd agreed to on Sunday. good on him for not only embracing hard knocks but being willing to expand a little more context to what we saw.
https://x.com/SNYGiants/status/1816105477417099699 - ( New Window )
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 9:44 am : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Biggest takeaway from Schoen and Daboll’s pre-camp presser: Jermaine Eluemunor will be at RT with Evan Neal starting camp on PUP. Even with Schoen saying Neal isn’t “far off” from practicing, they’re making this drastic change to their O-line plan. I can’t see any way Neal gets the starting job back. Harsh for Neal, but best thing for the Giants’ line IMO.

Also, Daboll said Daniel Jones will be a full participant from the start of camp and will take all of the first-team reps.
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Go Terps : 7/24/2024 9:47 am : link
We saw on Hard Knocks that drafting Joe Alt was not a consideration, presumably because we had Evan Neal. Now Duggan is saying Neal probably lost his job.
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nygiants16 : 7/24/2024 9:49 am : link
In comment 16558393 Go Terps said:
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We saw on Hard Knocks that drafting Joe Alt was not a consideration, presumably because we had Evan Neal. Now Duggan is saying Neal probably lost his job.


Free agency was also done at this point and they signed a guy who can start at RT
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ZogZerg : 7/24/2024 9:50 am : link
In comment 16558393 Go Terps said:
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We saw on Hard Knocks that drafting Joe Alt was not a consideration, presumably because we had Evan Neal. Now Duggan is saying Neal probably lost his job.


A couple of things.
Speculation by Duggan.
Alt was gone before the Giants picked. They knew Chargers were drafting him.
NYG has a left tackle  
UberAlias : 7/24/2024 9:50 am : link
and a very good one.
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Go Terps : 7/24/2024 9:51 am : link
In comment 16558400 nygiants16 said:
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We saw on Hard Knocks that drafting Joe Alt was not a consideration, presumably because we had Evan Neal. Now Duggan is saying Neal probably lost his job.



Free agency was also done at this point and they signed a guy who can start at RT


Yeah but I was under the impression he was brought in to play guard. Now I guess he's being kicked out to tackle with Ezeudu starting.
RE: NYG has a left tackle  
Go Terps : 7/24/2024 9:52 am : link
In comment 16558406 UberAlias said:
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and a very good one.


The Chargers did too when they drafted Alt, who will be their right tackle.
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nygiants16 : 7/24/2024 9:54 am : link
In comment 16558408 Go Terps said:
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We saw on Hard Knocks that drafting Joe Alt was not a consideration, presumably because we had Evan Neal. Now Duggan is saying Neal probably lost his job.



Free agency was also done at this point and they signed a guy who can start at RT



Yeah but I was under the impression he was brought in to play guard. Now I guess he's being kicked out to tackle with Ezeudu starting.


He was signed because he could play Guard or Tackle but his best position is probably at tackle..

Stinnie is playing guard
elumeanor at RT is the right decision - as would be signing van roten  
Eric on Li : 7/24/2024 9:57 am : link
or another experienced RG to kick Runyan to LG. Anything they get from Neal should be considered a bonus. he's 2 years running been outplayed by tyree phillips off the waiver wire.

if they loved Alt they should have considered him but Neal (and to lesser extents JMS/Ezeudu) show the risk of relying on rookies to "fix" things no matter how safe they seem.

part of the draft is projecting your own strengths/weaknesses as an org to develop talent. signing veteran OL was the right way to go. this org has not yet proven it can develop OL and that's a risk that needs to be accounted for in their decision making.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/24/2024 10:08 am : link
In comment 16558359 Eric from BBI said:
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Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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Schoen says whether Daniel Jones’ $23M injury guarantee for 2025 affects his playing time is ‘ways down the road.’

Going day by day now.

All makes sense. Who knows what record will be?

Certainly didnt say no repeat of Russell Wilson situation here. #Giants


Not exactly a roaring endorsement.
RE: RE: NYG has a left tackle  
UberAlias : 7/24/2024 10:10 am : link
In comment 16558409 Go Terps said:
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and a very good one.



The Chargers did too when they drafted Alt, who will be their right tackle.
That's the Chargers. They are a different team. NYG also added Eluemunor in FA with a plan that has Thomas at LT and Neal or Eluemunor at RT.
I think  
Jaenyg : 7/24/2024 10:12 am : link
The Giants thought process in this year’s offseason was that they struggle to properly scout OL. So They signed a bunch of OL in FA with actual competent starting experience at almost every OL position.

The draft plan, if trading up for Maye wasn’t going to work, was juggling the blue chip and red chip offensive skill players. I think this was less “weapons for Daniel” and more “we think we can scout these players better.”
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 10:17 am : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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Allen Robinson wearing 5 #Giants100
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 10:17 am : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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Isaiah Simmons working with the corners in position drills.
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HBart : 7/24/2024 10:18 am : link
In comment 16558403 ZogZerg said:
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We saw on Hard Knocks that drafting Joe Alt was not a consideration, presumably because we had Evan Neal. Now Duggan is saying Neal probably lost his job.



A couple of things.
Speculation by Duggan.
Alt was gone before the Giants picked. They knew Chargers were drafting him.

Wasn't it Duggan who said pre-draft the Giants had a deal in place with NE? Seems that way cause he'd been beating that drum loudly since the draft. I think he's shifting his target to Neal cause of ass burn from last night.

Neal going to PUP gives Duggan a great shot at being right this time.
RE: Elumenor kicking out to RT  
The Mike : 7/24/2024 10:18 am : link
In comment 16558329 Doubledeuce22 said:
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Per Art


And I suspect barring injury, that is where he will remain.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 10:27 am : link
Patricia Traina
@Patricia_Traina
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Evan Neal is off on the side working with a trainer so that’s a positive sign.
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DaveInTampa : 7/24/2024 10:28 am : link
In comment 16558450 HBart said:
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We saw on Hard Knocks that drafting Joe Alt was not a consideration, presumably because we had Evan Neal. Now Duggan is saying Neal probably lost his job.



A couple of things.
Speculation by Duggan.
Alt was gone before the Giants picked. They knew Chargers were drafting him.


Wasn't it Duggan who said pre-draft the Giants had a deal in place with NE? Seems that way cause he'd been beating that drum loudly since the draft. I think he's shifting his target to Neal cause of ass burn from last night.

Neal going to PUP gives Duggan a great shot at being right this time.


I don't recall him saying that. Duggan has a very good track record and is the best of the beat reporters IMHO.
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shyster : 7/24/2024 10:29 am : link
In comment 16558450 HBart said:
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Wasn't it Duggan who said pre-draft the Giants had a deal in place with NE? Seems that way cause he'd been beating that drum loudly since the draft. I think he's shifting his target to Neal cause of ass burn from last night.

Neal going to PUP gives Duggan a great shot at being right this time.


Duggan never said that. No professional reporter on either the Giants' or Patriots' side said that. Not sure what drum you're referring to.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 10:29 am : link
Patricia Traina
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Isaiah Simmons split his time during individuals with the DBs and LBs.
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Blueworm : 7/24/2024 10:34 am : link
In comment 16558482 Eric from BBI said:
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Patricia Traina
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Isaiah Simmons split his time during individuals with the DBs and LBs.


Still hasn't settled on a position.

Yes, I've heard Money.
He cannot attack and shed or destroy blocks. (Or has yet to date.)
He needs to work in space.
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Eric on Li : 7/24/2024 10:36 am : link
In comment 16558494 Blueworm said:
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Patricia Traina
@Patricia_Traina
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Isaiah Simmons split his time during individuals with the DBs and LBs.



Still hasn't settled on a position.

Yes, I've heard Money.
He cannot attack and shed or destroy blocks. (Or has yet to date.)
He needs to work in space.


that was basically how he was used (effectively) last year - on pass plays in space and occassionally rushing. it sounds like this year will be similar.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 10:37 am : link
Art Stapleton
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Daniel Jones first play in team drills: completion to Wan’Dale Robinson orbit motion swing pass

Next play: Ryder Anderson knockdown of Jones pass at line #Giants100
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The_Boss : 7/24/2024 10:43 am : link
In comment 16558502 Eric from BBI said:
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Art Stapleton
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Daniel Jones first play in team drills: completion to Wan’Dale Robinson orbit motion swing pass

Next play: Ryder Anderson knockdown of Jones pass at line #Giants100


Wonder if, like in a game, he had guys open deep and he just didn’t see them…
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HBart : 7/24/2024 10:48 am : link
In comment 16558479 shyster said:
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Wasn't it Duggan who said pre-draft the Giants had a deal in place with NE? Seems that way cause he'd been beating that drum loudly since the draft. I think he's shifting his target to Neal cause of ass burn from last night.

Neal going to PUP gives Duggan a great shot at being right this time.



Duggan never said that. No professional reporter on either the Giants' or Patriots' side said that. Not sure what drum you're referring to.

The QB at all costs drum. He for sure said the Giants made an offer to NE to trade up.
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PatersonPlank : 7/24/2024 10:52 am : link
In comment 16558511 The_Boss said:
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Art Stapleton
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Daniel Jones first play in team drills: completion to Wan’Dale Robinson orbit motion swing pass

Next play: Ryder Anderson knockdown of Jones pass at line #Giants100



Wonder if, like in a game, he had guys open deep and he just didn’t see them…


Oh I think he sees them, he just panics and checks down
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DaveInTampa : 7/24/2024 10:55 am : link
In comment 16558515 HBart said:
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Wasn't it Duggan who said pre-draft the Giants had a deal in place with NE? Seems that way cause he'd been beating that drum loudly since the draft. I think he's shifting his target to Neal cause of ass burn from last night.

Neal going to PUP gives Duggan a great shot at being right this time.



Duggan never said that. No professional reporter on either the Giants' or Patriots' side said that. Not sure what drum you're referring to.


The QB at all costs drum. He for sure said the Giants made an offer to NE to trade up.


Making an offer and having a deal in place are 2 different things
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 10:57 am : link
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Stinnie with 1s, Eluemunor RT
McCloud in slot
Nacho next to Dex with 1s
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 10:58 am : link
Patricia Traina
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Chris Manhertz getting snaps with the Jones-led offense.
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The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
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Ryder Anderson getting reps with 1s
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 10:58 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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#Giants true to word and just had Malik Nabers lined up in backfield to run a route
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 10:59 am : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
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Daniel with an overthrow on a little flat route, missed Wan’Dale on a slant
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 10:59 am : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
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Malik with a drop on a pass from Daniel. Getting those early camp jitters out lol
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 10:59 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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Daniel Jones is moving well. John Michael Schmitz did not block Dexter Lawrence well. #Giants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 11:00 am : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
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First pick of camp goes to Boogie Basham off a tip. Pass from lock
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 11:00 am : link
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
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Lawrence Cager touchdown at #Giants camp from first set of team drills
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 11:01 am : link
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
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First highlight of #Giants camp: Long touchdown down left sideline from Drew Lock to a tightly-covered Lawrence Cager. DB was all over him. Still not sure how he pulled that in.

Could see Cager having a bigger role than people expect as reviving TE.

First two sets of team drills are done for the #Giants.

Daniel Jones went 2 of 5.

Both completions short in the flat (Robinson, Gray). Incompletions were a deflection and two errant passes.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 11:01 am : link
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
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Andrew Thomas, Aaron Stinnie, John Michael-Schmitz, Jon Runyan, Jermaine Eluemunor
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 11:02 am : link
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
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Daniel Jones went 0-for-3 in second set of team drills. He’s now 2 of 8 on the day.

Drew Lock throws an interception on his first pass with the second team. Basham caught a tipped ball. #Giants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 11:02 am : link
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
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Good route here from Malik Nabers. Good throw from Daniel Jones. Just needs to see it in. First target to the rookie a drop #Giants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 11:03 am : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
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Daniel is moving around great. Full go in team drills
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 11:03 am : link
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Interesting design by Dabes. 13 personnel Jones with an toss end around to Nabers
RE: RE: NYG has a left tackle  
PatersonPlank : 7/24/2024 11:03 am : link
In comment 16558409 Go Terps said:
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In comment 16558406 UberAlias said:


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and a very good one.



The Chargers did too when they drafted Alt, who will be their right tackle.


The Chargers just did the exact same thing the Giants did a few years before. We had Thomas and then drafted Neal. So you can't kill them for not doing this. Sure right now Neal looks like a big disappointment, and possibly was the wrong player selected, but that happens. Alt could be a psuedo-bust too, we will see. But your argument that the Giants don't do these things, aor haven't, is false.
Here we go  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 11:03 am : link
Pat Leonard
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Jermaine Eluemunor, who was moved to right tackle today after a full spring at left guard, is now down on the ground on one knee for a while. Training staff surrounding him and he isn’t moving much #Giants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 11:04 am : link
Connor Hughes
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Jermaine Eluemunor is hurt for the #Giants — his first practice at RT after working at G during spring.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 11:05 am : link
Charlotte Carroll
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Jermaine Eluemunor, who moved to RT, down for a bit after a play. He gets up and walks off. He’s getting attention on sidelines from trainers
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 11:06 am : link
Art Stapleton
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Jermaine Eluemunor, inserted as starting right tackle, is down on a knee and shaken up. Being looked at by training staff. Walking off. Not what you want.
#Giants100
RE: Here we go  
Anakim : 7/24/2024 11:07 am : link
In comment 16558553 Eric from BBI said:
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Pat Leonard
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Jermaine Eluemunor, who was moved to right tackle today after a full spring at left guard, is now down on the ground on one knee for a while. Training staff surrounding him and he isn’t moving much #Giants


Bubblewrap!!!
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/24/2024 11:07 am : link
You literally can’t make it up.
Guys  
SoZKillA : 7/24/2024 11:09 am : link
getting hurt in a glorified walkthrough is hysterical.
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mfsd : 7/24/2024 11:12 am : link
In comment 16558562 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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You literally can’t make it up.


Seriously. Hopefully just cramps, but even that is absurd, it’s not that hot, they’re not practicing hard, and it’s day 1
Video of him walking off  
nygiants16 : 7/24/2024 11:15 am : link
looks to be favoring his rib area, some reports said he took a shot from dexter lawrence in the ribs..
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AcesUp : 7/24/2024 11:17 am : link
In comment 16558558 Eric from BBI said:
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Art Stapleton
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Jermaine Eluemunor, inserted as starting right tackle, is down on a knee and shaken up. Being looked at by training staff. Walking off. Not what you want.
#Giants100


Unreal.
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Scooter185 : 7/24/2024 11:19 am : link
Was just watching some clips, and dang they haven't been able to make those guardian helmets less ridiculous looking yet?
RE: Video of him walking off  
Anakim : 7/24/2024 11:20 am : link
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looks to be favoring his rib area, some reports said he took a shot from dexter lawrence in the ribs..


Hopefully he just got the wind knocked out of him
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Ivan15 : 7/24/2024 11:28 am : link
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The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
@GiantInsider
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Schoen says he wishes Hard Knocks would have shown the work Kevin Abrams and Ed Triggs did with Brian Burns contract negotiations
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Hard Knocks really has been showing a behind the scenes look. Almost exclusively, it has been about Schoen’s day to day job.
The RT position  
RCPhoenix : 7/24/2024 11:32 am : link
I’d like the Professor of the Dark Arts position at Howarts. It’s cursed
RE: The RT position  
RCPhoenix : 7/24/2024 11:32 am : link
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I’d like the Professor of the Dark Arts position at Howarts. It’s cursed


It’s like
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 11:37 am : link
Dan Duggan
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Jermaine Eluemunor was just down on one knee for several minutes then slowly walked off with trainers. He’s now lying on the sideline. Hard to tell what happened.

The cart came out but Eluemunor walked into the building. He kept his left hand on his ribs/stomach the entire walk. He took a big shot to the ribs from Dexter Lawrence on the play, so that’s likely the site of the injury.

Josh Ezeudu takes Eluemunor’s place at RT.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 11:38 am : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
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Nice blitz by Tyler Nubin chasing Lock out of the pocket
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 11:39 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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Lots of short passes from Daniel Jones today. Some by design, some because no one is open by time pocket collapses #Giants
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: .  
shyster : 7/24/2024 11:39 am : link
In comment 16558527 DaveInTampa said:
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Making an offer and having a deal in place are 2 different things


Yes, quite. And Duggan never even claimed his own knowledge of a Giants' offer. He cited the reporting of others on that. "The Giants reportedly offered, etc."

He also said he'd be watching Hard Knocks himself to see how serious negotiations actually got.


nyt - ( New Window )
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 11:39 am : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
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Alex Johnson (my sleeper) with a nice PD on a pass from DeVito
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GiantSteps : 7/24/2024 11:39 am : link
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Dan Duggan
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Jermaine Eluemunor was just down on one knee for several minutes then slowly walked off with trainers. He’s now lying on the sideline. Hard to tell what happened.

The cart came out but Eluemunor walked into the building. He kept his left hand on his ribs/stomach the entire walk. He took a big shot to the ribs from Dexter Lawrence on the play, so that’s likely the site of the injury.

Josh Ezeudu takes Eluemunor’s place at RT.


WE'RE BACK BABYYY
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 11:40 am : link
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
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#Giants practice is over. Daniel Jones finished 7 of 12. Final four completions all within three yards of LOS.

Big concern, obviously, is health of Jermaine Eluemunor
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 11:41 am : link
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
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Video of Jermaine Eluemunor going down. It looks like arm, maybe midsection. Either way: Not ideal #Giants
https://x.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1816130822216286289 - ( New Window )
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 11:42 am : link
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
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Kayvon Thibodeaux beats Ezeudu for a sack on his second rep at RT. #Giants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 11:43 am : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
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Isaiah Simmons played with the 3s today in the slot. Worked with DB’s in individuals
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The Mike : 7/24/2024 11:44 am : link
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Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
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Kayvon Thibodeaux beats Ezeudu for a sack on his second rep at RT. #Giants


Like clockwork! Ezeudu stepping in right where he left off...
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 11:46 am : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
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Andrew Thomas says he’s been in touch with Evan Neal this offseason to make sure he’s in a good place. Knows what he’s dealing with and said he good mentally.
I heard Nunez-Roches  
CTGiants : 7/24/2024 11:48 am : link
is looking for a ride home
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Ivan15 : 7/24/2024 11:50 am : link
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Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
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#Giants practice is over. Daniel Jones finished 7 of 12. Final four completions all within three yards of LOS.

Big concern, obviously, is health of Jermaine Eluemunor
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At least Lock isn’t afraid to throw downfield. I think I could live with one interception per game, maybe more.
Sounds like OL in mid season form!!!  
Rick in Dallas : 7/24/2024 11:52 am : link
Hopefully just shaking off the rust.
RE: Sounds like OL in mid season form!!!  
blueblood : 7/24/2024 11:55 am : link
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Hopefully just shaking off the rust.


What rust... you have three new players on the OL.. its not going to be cohesive day one.. its going to take time
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M.S. : 7/24/2024 12:23 pm : link
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Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
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Video of Jermaine Eluemunor going down. It looks like arm, maybe midsection. Either way: Not ideal #Giants https://x.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1816130822216286289 - ( New Window )

30-year old ribs.
Quick  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 12:29 pm : link
video recap from Schmeelk
https://x.com/Giants/status/1816148049476845793 - ( New Window )
Hope its not a pec tear for Eluemunor  
Metnut : 7/24/2024 12:38 pm : link
A rib injury would be frustrating but 3-6 weeks would be a reasonable recovery time, so we'd likely have him back by opening day.

Hopefully it's nothing and only day to day.
It's an Arm injury  
gidiefor : Mod : 7/24/2024 12:54 pm : link
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 12:56 pm : link
Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
Interesting note from Day 1 of Giants training camp: Isaiah Simmons was working with the cornerbacks. The plan is to use him as a nickelback. He is fully on board with the idea. It aligns with his desires.

Simmons noted he had his most productive year in Arizona in a similar role under Vance Joseph. He had 99 tackles, 2 forced fumbles, 2 interceptions and 4.0 sacks.

Simmons thinks this will be a similar role in Shane Bowen's defense with the Giants.
RE: It's an Arm injury  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 12:56 pm : link
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PatersonPlank : 7/24/2024 1:00 pm : link
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Connor Hughes
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#Giants practice is over. Daniel Jones finished 7 of 12. Final four completions all within three yards of LOS.

Big concern, obviously, is health of Jermaine Eluemunor


Jones rounding into regular season check-down form
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djm : 7/24/2024 1:06 pm : link
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Connor Hughes
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#Giants practice is over. Daniel Jones finished 7 of 12. Final four completions all within three yards of LOS.

Big concern, obviously, is health of Jermaine Eluemunor



Jones rounding into regular season check-down form


Right, all that time he had in the pocket and all those gifted WRs just going to waste.

Smart QBs check it down when there’s nothing else to do.
The 10-year injury history to our o-line has reached the comic book  
M.S. : 7/24/2024 1:07 pm : link
stage. Either that or this team has stepped into the fucking twilight zone.

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DaveInTampa : 7/24/2024 1:08 pm : link
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Connor Hughes
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#Giants practice is over. Daniel Jones finished 7 of 12. Final four completions all within three yards of LOS.

Big concern, obviously, is health of Jermaine Eluemunor



Jones rounding into regular season check-down form



Right, all that time he had in the pocket and all those gifted WRs just going to waste.

Smart QBs check it down when there’s nothing else to do.


And mediocre QBs check down when they don't have the confidence or ability to throw into tight windows
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 1:09 pm : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants100 Eleumunor left practice today after he appeared to take an elbow to his ribs
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Johnny5 : 7/24/2024 1:13 pm : link
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#Giants practice is over. Daniel Jones finished 7 of 12. Final four completions all within three yards of LOS.

Big concern, obviously, is health of Jermaine Eluemunor



Jones rounding into regular season check-down form



Right, all that time he had in the pocket and all those gifted WRs just going to waste.

Smart QBs check it down when there’s nothing else to do.



And mediocre QBs check down when they don't have the confidence or ability to throw into tight windows

And dopey fans harp on every play during the 1st day of camp to further their dopey narratives.
RE: ...  
gersh : 7/24/2024 1:15 pm : link
In comment 16558687 Eric from BBI said:
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GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants100 Eleumunor left practice today after he appeared to take an elbow to his ribs


yes, other report
He took a big shot to the ribs from Dexter Lawrence on the play, so that’s likely the site of the injury.
Bad for him short term but good news
How did Elu  
Bill in UT : 7/24/2024 1:19 pm : link
end up blocking Dex as RT? Some kind of stunt?
RE: Hope its not a pec tear for Eluemunor  
Blue Baas : 7/24/2024 1:32 pm : link
In comment 16558659 Metnut said:
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A rib injury would be frustrating but 3-6 weeks would be a reasonable recovery time, so we'd likely have him back by opening day.

Hopefully it's nothing and only day to day.


To me it just looks like he took an unlucky shot to the ribs from Sexy. That's enough to crack a rib. Cracked rib is 2-4 weeks.
RE: I have a feeling Ezeudu is going to play well at OG  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 1:32 pm : link
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And Neal might be done


Ha! You had me at "Ezeudu is going to play well..."!
RE: elumeanor at RT is the right decision - as would be signing van roten  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 1:37 pm : link
In comment 16558412 Eric on Li said:
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or another experienced RG to kick Runyan to LG. Anything they get from Neal should be considered a bonus. he's 2 years running been outplayed by tyree phillips off the waiver wire.

if they loved Alt they should have considered him but Neal (and to lesser extents JMS/Ezeudu) show the risk of relying on rookies to "fix" things no matter how safe they seem.

part of the draft is projecting your own strengths/weaknesses as an org to develop talent. signing veteran OL was the right way to go. this org has not yet proven it can develop OL and that's a risk that needs to be accounted for in their decision making.


+1
Neal is a coach killer.  
Optimus-NY : 7/24/2024 1:39 pm : link
Remember how funny he looked trying to keep his balance against Riddick in the playoff game in Philly? Neal was more off balance in that game than a drunk at closing time at your local bar.
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ajr2456 : 7/24/2024 1:44 pm : link
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Connor Hughes
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#Giants practice is over. Daniel Jones finished 7 of 12. Final four completions all within three yards of LOS.

Big concern, obviously, is health of Jermaine Eluemunor


Insane we’re doing year 6 of this
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ajr2456 : 7/24/2024 1:47 pm : link
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Connor Hughes
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#Giants practice is over. Daniel Jones finished 7 of 12. Final four completions all within three yards of LOS.

Big concern, obviously, is health of Jermaine Eluemunor



Jones rounding into regular season check-down form



Right, all that time he had in the pocket and all those gifted WRs just going to waste.

Smart QBs check it down when there’s nothing else to do.



And mediocre QBs check down when they don't have the confidence or ability to throw into tight windows


And dopey fans harp on every play during the 1st day of camp to further their dopey narratives.


You guys have called them “dopey narratives” for five years.

“It’s only camp”

“It’s only preseason”

“It’s only week one”

“Player x,y,z were hurt”

“The eagles are just better it’s not Jones’ fault”
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Johnny5 : 7/24/2024 1:49 pm : link
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Connor Hughes
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#Giants practice is over. Daniel Jones finished 7 of 12. Final four completions all within three yards of LOS.

Big concern, obviously, is health of Jermaine Eluemunor



Jones rounding into regular season check-down form



Right, all that time he had in the pocket and all those gifted WRs just going to waste.

Smart QBs check it down when there’s nothing else to do.



And mediocre QBs check down when they don't have the confidence or ability to throw into tight windows


And dopey fans harp on every play during the 1st day of camp to further their dopey narratives.



You guys have called them “dopey narratives” for five years.

“It’s only camp”

“It’s only preseason”

“It’s only week one”

“Player x,y,z were hurt”

“The eagles are just better it’s not Jones’ fault”

And right on cue, said dopey fan responds.
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DaveInTampa : 7/24/2024 1:50 pm : link
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Connor Hughes
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#Giants practice is over. Daniel Jones finished 7 of 12. Final four completions all within three yards of LOS.

Big concern, obviously, is health of Jermaine Eluemunor



Jones rounding into regular season check-down form



Right, all that time he had in the pocket and all those gifted WRs just going to waste.

Smart QBs check it down when there’s nothing else to do.



And mediocre QBs check down when they don't have the confidence or ability to throw into tight windows


And dopey fans harp on every play during the 1st day of camp to further their dopey narratives.


Jones being a mediocre QB is a "dopey narrative"? Please enlighten me with the proper narrative

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Johnny5 : 7/24/2024 1:52 pm : link
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Connor Hughes
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#Giants practice is over. Daniel Jones finished 7 of 12. Final four completions all within three yards of LOS.

Big concern, obviously, is health of Jermaine Eluemunor



Jones rounding into regular season check-down form



Right, all that time he had in the pocket and all those gifted WRs just going to waste.

Smart QBs check it down when there’s nothing else to do.



And mediocre QBs check down when they don't have the confidence or ability to throw into tight windows


And dopey fans harp on every play during the 1st day of camp to further their dopey narratives.



Jones being a mediocre QB is a "dopey narrative"? Please enlighten me with the proper narrative

lol. At this point I would love for the guy to kill it this year just so you dopes can slink away again. Or at least STFU about him for 5 consecutive posts/threads.
 
christian : 7/24/2024 1:54 pm : link
I'd love for him to kill it this year, because he never has. I win.
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The_Boss : 7/24/2024 1:55 pm : link
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Connor Hughes
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#Giants practice is over. Daniel Jones finished 7 of 12. Final four completions all within three yards of LOS.

Big concern, obviously, is health of Jermaine Eluemunor



Jones rounding into regular season check-down form



Right, all that time he had in the pocket and all those gifted WRs just going to waste.

Smart QBs check it down when there’s nothing else to do.



And mediocre QBs check down when they don't have the confidence or ability to throw into tight windows


And dopey fans harp on every play during the 1st day of camp to further their dopey narratives.



Jones being a mediocre QB is a "dopey narrative"? Please enlighten me with the proper narrative



lol. At this point I would love for the guy to kill it this year just so you dopes can slink away again. Or at least STFU about him for 5 consecutive posts/threads.


Jones is THE reason why every national preseason primer pegs the NYG to be a bottom 5 team in 2024.
People are going to spin this as no big deal  
mittenedman : 7/24/2024 1:58 pm : link
but this is f#cking brutal to lose Eluemunor for any stretch of time already.

Reminds me of Pugh, Richburg and Flowers beating their chest about having to stay on the field and by day 3 all of them were sitting out.

Part of the reason this OL has been so bad for so long is they seem to have a new starting 5 every week. And now, after less than a practice, they'll have to reshuffle the starting 5 again.

It's like watching a car crash in slow motion.
I’m not sure how many times this has to be said  
ajr2456 : 7/24/2024 1:59 pm : link
But the QB of a football team is going to be mentioned a lot, especially when they’re bad.

If you don’t like it maybe discussing football on a message board isn’t for you, dope.
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Scooter185 : 7/24/2024 2:02 pm : link
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#Giants practice is over. Daniel Jones finished 7 of 12. Final four completions all within three yards of LOS.

Big concern, obviously, is health of Jermaine Eluemunor



Jones rounding into regular season check-down form



Right, all that time he had in the pocket and all those gifted WRs just going to waste.

Smart QBs check it down when there’s nothing else to do.



And mediocre QBs check down when they don't have the confidence or ability to throw into tight windows


And dopey fans harp on every play during the 1st day of camp to further their dopey narratives.


Thread wouldn't have been complete without Johnny5 coming in to bitch about other fans
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kickoff : 7/24/2024 2:04 pm : link
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Connor Hughes
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#Giants practice is over. Daniel Jones finished 7 of 12. Final four completions all within three yards of LOS.

Big concern, obviously, is health of Jermaine Eluemunor



Jones rounding into regular season check-down form



Right, all that time he had in the pocket and all those gifted WRs just going to waste.

Smart QBs check it down when there’s nothing else to do.



And mediocre QBs check down when they don't have the confidence or ability to throw into tight windows


And dopey fans harp on every play during the 1st day of camp to further their dopey narratives.


You're so right. Silly is'nt it?
RE: Quick  
ATL_Giants : 7/24/2024 2:08 pm : link
In comment 16558647 Eric from BBI said:
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video recap from Schmeelk https://x.com/Giants/status/1816148049476845793 - ( New Window )

John's looking very thin... I really like him and think he's one of the best media people the Giants have (if not the best). Stay healthy Schmeelk
RE: People are going to spin this as no big deal  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 2:22 pm : link
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but this is f#cking brutal to lose Eluemunor for any stretch of time already.

Reminds me of Pugh, Richburg and Flowers beating their chest about having to stay on the field and by day 3 all of them were sitting out.

Part of the reason this OL has been so bad for so long is they seem to have a new starting 5 every week. And now, after less than a practice, they'll have to reshuffle the starting 5 again.

It's like watching a car crash in slow motion.


These injuries are just so demoralizing. And it happens every freaking season to this team.
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mittenedman : 7/24/2024 2:26 pm : link
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These injuries are just so demoralizing. And it happens every freaking season to this team.


Yup. Until Eluemunor is back they'll have gone exactly 0 days with their starting OL on the field. Yawn.
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UberAlias : 7/24/2024 2:26 pm : link
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but this is f#cking brutal to lose Eluemunor for any stretch of time already.

Reminds me of Pugh, Richburg and Flowers beating their chest about having to stay on the field and by day 3 all of them were sitting out.

Part of the reason this OL has been so bad for so long is they seem to have a new starting 5 every week. And now, after less than a practice, they'll have to reshuffle the starting 5 again.

It's like watching a car crash in slow motion.



These injuries are just so demoralizing. And it happens every freaking season to this team.
The other thing is that Matt Nelso, the other OT they brought in, has also been out and I'm not clear on what his status is at this point. There's always concentrated injuries on the Oline, and always impactful.
The good news is  
mittenedman : 7/24/2024 2:28 pm : link
if Nabers is "as advertised" the terrible OL won't be an excuse anymore. DJ will still have the weapons to produce.

IOW, at least he isn't throwing to a bunch of scrubs behind a dysfunctional OL. He has a good play caller and weapons.
good point Uber  
mittenedman : 7/24/2024 2:29 pm : link
There's already a run of injuries at RT.

If Nelson was the swing guy and still not 100% ready, we're already down to our 4th RT. On day 1.
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gidiefor : Mod : 7/24/2024 2:43 pm : link
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section125 : 7/24/2024 2:53 pm : link
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We saw on Hard Knocks that drafting Joe Alt was not a consideration, presumably because we had Evan Neal. Now Duggan is saying Neal probably lost his job.


Sometimes you cannot see the forest because of the trees. Alt was not a consideration because they wanted either Maye or one of the WRs.
They got Eleumunor in FA as back up to Neal. But it was clear as a bell that they wanted to go QB(one of the top 3) or Nabers or Harrison - and even Bowers.
“Cutlets”  
5BowlsSoon : 7/24/2024 2:56 pm : link
Anybody have a report on how he looked?

Hey, if Dabs chooses Jones to be his man, and we crash and burn, then maybe Dabs should go with Jones…….somewhere out of town.
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Go Terps : 7/24/2024 3:10 pm : link
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We saw on Hard Knocks that drafting Joe Alt was not a consideration, presumably because we had Evan Neal. Now Duggan is saying Neal probably lost his job.



Sometimes you cannot see the forest because of the trees. Alt was not a consideration because they wanted either Maye or one of the WRs.
They got Eleumunor in FA as back up to Neal. But it was clear as a bell that they wanted to go QB(one of the top 3) or Nabers or Harrison - and even Bowers.


I know exactly why they didn't consider Alt. Weapon for Daniel, and they'd already spent a high pick on Neal and don't want to admit he's a miss.
RE: These injuries are just so demoralizing … every freaking season  
Trainmaster : 7/24/2024 3:15 pm : link
^^^

This!

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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 3:19 pm : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
Before Eluemunor left due to injury, here was the Giants' OL alignment:

1st team
LT Thomas
LG Stinnie
C Schmitz
RG Runyan
RT Eluemunor

2nd team
LT Ezeudu
LG Kubas
C Schlottmann
RG Morrissey
RT Miles

3rd team
LT Nelson
LG Morrissey
C Schlottmann
RG McKethan
RT Cajuste
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 3:25 pm : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
One lineup surprise for me on Day 1 of Giants camp: rookie DT Elijah Chatman getting a chance to work in first-team rotation with Dexter Lawrence, Ryder Anderson and Rakeem Nunez-Roches.

DL coach Andre Patterson has said height is not a prerequisite for him: Chatman listed at 6-foot, 278 pounds, UDFA from SMU
Photos  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 3:28 pm : link
from today...
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RE: schoen says sun overnight before FA they hammered out the burns deal  
ColHowPepper : 7/24/2024 3:31 pm : link
In comment 16558385 Eric on Li said:
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and then monday dragged because carolina was changing the terms of the deal they'd agreed to on Sunday. good on him for not only embracing hard knocks but being willing to expand a little more context to what we saw. https://x.com/SNYGiants/status/1816105477417099699 - ( New Window )

swear by my blankie that Daboll at times in that clip looks like one of the Sinoloa 7 cartel members, that stache just jumps out lol
This bag of dicks is still collecting on the Superbowl runs  
BlueHurricane : 7/24/2024 3:37 pm : link
Kubas at 2nd team LG  
UberAlias : 7/24/2024 3:39 pm : link
Is a little interesting.
a few dump offs in a fucking walk through practice  
djm : 7/24/2024 3:46 pm : link
and the vultures come out to play, as usual.

Bravo.

A walkthrough!

Some of you know so much....
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 3:48 pm : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
#Giants 1st training camp practice takeaways:
- Short pass game served as an extension of the run game. Draft Wan'Dale Robinson in PPR fantasy leagues. That might continue with this RB depth chart.
- Daniel Jones: 8-of-13 passing, no completions more than 5-ish yards. Under duress often, but moved well in first 11-on-11s since tearing his ACL.
- Malik Nabers had a drop on a well-placed throw. Don't expect many of those. He took an end-around and lined up in the backfield to run a route once.
- Is #Giants100 OL just cursed? 3 days ago, I would've listed Evan Neal and Jermaine Eluemunor as starters. Now both are injured (no word yet on Eluemunor's severity) and LG Aaron Stinnie & RT Josh Ezeudu are starters.
- I applaud Schoen and Daboll for their (pre-injury) decision to move Eluemunor from LG to RT. It was clear that Neal will have to earn the job when he returns from PUP instead of getting handed snaps based on draft status. That said, Eluemunor's injury might change things.
- Dane Belton, not rookie second-round pick Tyler Nubin, was the starting safety next to Jason Pinnock.
- Who are CB Cor'Dale Flott's biggest challengers to start on the outside? Tre Hawkins and Darnay Holmes were the second-teamers.
- Drew Lock threw a TD pass to Lawrence Cager (sweet catch) and a pick to Boogie Basham on a tipped pass by Jordan Phillips.
Multiple  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 4:02 pm : link
reports that Holmes and Hawkins were 2nd team CBs.... something to watch.
I may be flat out wrong  
ColHowPepper : 7/24/2024 4:11 pm : link
but I've been consistent in saying Flott is not starting material as a boundary CB vs good, quick receivers, part of it is his movement (long and slowish to change direction) and part is his tackling, unless he has improved that big time
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Jaenyg : 7/24/2024 4:14 pm : link
In comment 16558805 Go Terps said:
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In comment 16558393 Go Terps said:


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We saw on Hard Knocks that drafting Joe Alt was not a consideration, presumably because we had Evan Neal. Now Duggan is saying Neal probably lost his job.



Sometimes you cannot see the forest because of the trees. Alt was not a consideration because they wanted either Maye or one of the WRs.
They got Eleumunor in FA as back up to Neal. But it was clear as a bell that they wanted to go QB(one of the top 3) or Nabers or Harrison - and even Bowers.



I know exactly why they didn't consider Alt. Weapon for Daniel, and they'd already spent a high pick on Neal and don't want to admit he's a miss.


Have you considered that the Giants have admitted to themselves that Neal was a miss, admitted to themselves that they don’t do a good job with scouting college OL, therefore they decided to correct that mistake through FA, and use a #6 pick on a position they consider easier to scout?
Very interesting on Chatman!  
mittenedman : 7/24/2024 4:21 pm : link
He's the 1 guy they have who is a 1-gap disrupting type 3T. All the other DTs are pluggers.
Maybe Patterson  
mittenedman : 7/24/2024 4:22 pm : link
sees some John Randle in him.
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HBart : 7/24/2024 4:29 pm : link
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Making an offer and having a deal in place are 2 different things



Yes, quite. And Duggan never even claimed his own knowledge of a Giants' offer. He cited the reporting of others on that. "The Giants reportedly offered, etc."

He also said he'd be watching Hard Knocks himself to see how serious negotiations actually got.
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Flott Hawkins and Holmes  
Essex : 7/24/2024 4:39 pm : link
for second CB position is very scary imo.
RE: Flott Hawkins and Holmes  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 4:54 pm : link
In comment 16558885 Essex said:
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for second CB position is very scary imo.


Hawkins has the physical characteristics of an ideal CB.
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Red Right Hand : 7/24/2024 5:00 pm : link
In comment 16558364 Eric from BBI said:
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Schoen says he wishes Hard Knocks would have shown the work Kevin Abrams and Ed Triggs did with Brian Burns contract negotiations
Certainly doesn't seem like Schoen views Abrams as dead weight, or an undermining threat. I think he got lucky in inheriting him, if he wanted him gone he would be.
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Milton : 7/24/2024 5:10 pm : link
In comment 16558864 Jaenyg said:
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Have you considered that the Giants have admitted to themselves that Neal was a miss, admitted to themselves that they don’t do a good job with scouting college OL
While it's certainly possible they've "admitted" that Neal was a miss, they surely haven't "admitted to themselves that they don't do a good job with scouting college OL." Teams make mistakes all the time when it comes to scouting college prospects, it's an inexact science. The Cowboys had Neal as their #2 prospect overall and while there may have NFL scouting departments that didn't see Neal as a top ten pick, I doubt there was a single team that didn't give him a 1st round grade. Shit happens.
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...therefore they decided to correct that mistake through FA, and use a #6 pick on a position they consider easier to scout?
No. First of all, WR is every bit as tough to scout as OL, maybe even tougher. The first round is littered with WRs that busted. Second of all, the Giants went into the draft with a roster long on young OL still on their learning curve and what it needed was immediate veteran help, not more youth to develop.
RE: a few dump offs in a fucking walk through practice  
Ron Johnson : 7/24/2024 5:13 pm : link
In comment 16558847 djm said:
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and the vultures come out to play, as usual.

Bravo.

A walkthrough!

Some of you know so much....



you expected something else? He sucked in high school ya know.
RE: RE: a few dump offs in a fucking walk through practice  
djm : 7/24/2024 5:31 pm : link
In comment 16558907 Ron Johnson said:
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In comment 16558847 djm said:


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and the vultures come out to play, as usual.

Bravo.

A walkthrough!

Some of you know so much....




you expected something else? He sucked in high school ya know.


Nah. Let’s move on.
RE: a few dump offs in a fucking walk through practice  
ajr2456 : 7/24/2024 5:54 pm : link
In comment 16558847 djm said:
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and the vultures come out to play, as usual.

Bravo.

A walkthrough!

Some of you know so much....


And you come out to complain about it.
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Milton : 7/24/2024 7:23 pm : link
In comment 16558734 The_Boss said:
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Jones is THE reason why every national preseason primer pegs the NYG to be a bottom 5 team in 2024.
And so you should thank him for the easy money that can be made this year betting the over on wins!
Hopefully  
Toth029 : 7/25/2024 9:53 am : link
The intensity is up above last years camp. Maybe it pays off, or it doesn't, but being lax doesn't help.

Josh Ezeudu had a problematic day. I don't begrudge Daboll or Schoen for wanting to use his versatility, but the man is a much better guard than tackle. He's a fourth OT at best at this point. If Neal and Eluemenor aren't in at RT, I feel like Matt Nelson is a better alternative. More experience there, for one.

Biggest play should have been a post play to Nabers and he dropped it.

I do like Bowen trying different alternatives at DL alongside Dex. Phillips may ultimately win the job but Anderson and Chatman in there early is a pleasant surprise. Try them early and see what they have.
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