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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/15/2024 4:07 pm
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This season shaping up  
rocco8112 : 9/15/2024 4:08 pm : link
to be rock bottom
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/15/2024 4:09 pm : link
When do we get our first win? Carolina?
Ona positive note  
BigBluePuma : 9/15/2024 4:09 pm : link
Dru Phillips is tough as nails. No wonder he was a favorite of Dane Brugler in this years draft.
A bunch of losers  
LG in NYC : 9/15/2024 4:09 pm : link
Suffer through this season… fire everyone… start over
Rinse and repeat
If the defense could get ONE stop today...  
DefenseWins : 9/15/2024 4:10 pm : link
we could have won.
Changing of the guard in the nfc east basement  
The_Boss : 9/15/2024 4:10 pm : link
This team will land in Germany at either 0-9 or 1-8.

Fuck ‘em
So  
Boatie Warrant : 9/15/2024 4:10 pm : link
We found an offense but our defense can't stop anything in-between the 20s. Sigh
Losers lose.  
bceagle05 : 9/15/2024 4:10 pm : link
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Flott was so bad  
bigbluewillrise : 9/15/2024 4:10 pm : link
hes not an nfl player.....


I’m out on Daboll  
Sammo85 : 9/15/2024 4:10 pm : link
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.  
Go Terps : 9/15/2024 4:10 pm : link
Pin this one right on Daboll.

Amateur hour.
you can't be 0-3  
thrunthrublue : 9/15/2024 4:10 pm : link
unless you are 0-2. You CAN be 0-10 at the bye, bye.
that's  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/15/2024 4:10 pm : link
the end of Schoen and Daboll.

Rest of the season is just background noise.
I said after last week we had replaced Washington  
j_rud : 9/15/2024 4:10 pm : link
as the division basement dweller. Today was a coronation, with the cellar door unceremoniously slammed by a 7-7 scrap heap kicker.
Perfect game for the fan of a franchise going nowhere.  
BigBlueBuff : 9/15/2024 4:10 pm : link
Entertaining on offense but inept enough to preserve the loss.
 
christian : 9/15/2024 4:11 pm : link
I hope Schoen and Daboll rented.
Chickenshit finish  
knowledgetimmons : 9/15/2024 4:11 pm : link
Daboll is a loser
RE: that's  
56goat : 9/15/2024 4:11 pm : link
In comment 16610844 Eric from BBI said:
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the end of Schoen and Daboll.

Rest of the season is just background noise.


Gonna get REALLY ugly before it is over.
Solid game from Jones  
IchabodGiant : 9/15/2024 4:11 pm : link
Doesn’t change the fact we need to find his replacement for next year.

Nantes is a stud. Will help immensely with our new QB next year.
To lose because of easily predictable kicker nonsense might be a new  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/15/2024 4:11 pm : link
low.
Bowen  
Paulie Walnuts : 9/15/2024 4:11 pm : link
Wow
Two years in a row we were unprepared for Week 1.  
bceagle05 : 9/15/2024 4:11 pm : link
Two years in a row we lost a winnable game due to an injured kicker.

Bush league shit. Incompetence.
RE: that's  
bigbluewillrise : 9/15/2024 4:11 pm : link
In comment 16610844 Eric from BBI said:
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the end of Schoen and Daboll.

Rest of the season is just background noise.


i hope so.

but i doubt it.


mara will take any silver linings from DJ and Nabers.
What kind of sh***y zone was that?  
Bramton1 : 9/15/2024 4:12 pm : link
Washington receivers were wide open every play. If they didn't consistently shoot themselves in the foot every trip to the red zone, we would have gotten blown out.
No nonowing your kicker is injured during  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 9/15/2024 4:13 pm : link
The week is on dabolll. We lost this game because we didn’t have a kicker
Gotta love the hard knocks comment  
Andy in Halifax : 9/15/2024 4:14 pm : link
About run defense when hiring Bowen 😂😂😂

Sucks that Nabers dropped it because anything that overshadows the pathetic defense today is unjust.

Though I did think that penalty on Phillips was bullshit. That was a stop otherwise.
They need to throw it more to Nabers  
Milton : 9/15/2024 4:14 pm : link
What's the point of spending a top ten pick on the guy if you're not gonna throw it to him more than 18 times?
#1 pick incoming  
Jim in Forest Hills : 9/15/2024 4:15 pm : link
No way I want these clowns making the pick. Clean house.
Welp  
hopthered : 9/15/2024 4:15 pm : link
Dabol is playing out the string now. Schoen too. 0-7 and a blowout loss to the Eagles at home should be the final nail in the cofin.
That's a tough one  
sb2003 : 9/15/2024 4:15 pm : link

They should've won that game.
 
christian : 9/15/2024 4:16 pm : link
The Giants need to fire the air.
The  
AcidTest : 9/15/2024 4:16 pm : link
loss is on the FO and the coaches.

In three offseasons, Schoen still hasn't found a credible run defender to put next to Lawrence, who he inherited. His player personnel decisions overall have been poor IMO.

Daboll didn't activate the PS kicker despite knowing that Gano was already hurt. Designed runs with an injury riddled QB like Jones were also a mistake. Also, too many runs to Singletary straight into the line. None around the end from what I saw, and not enough screens.

Jones executed well what he was required to do, but from what I saw, he was rarely going through multiple reads.

Nabers was great. The drop was unfortunate, but as I said on the game thread, he likely took his eyes off the ball for a split second to make sure his feet were in bounds. We're not even in the game without him.
I’m kind of shocked that some of you still care so much.  
BigBlueBuff : 9/15/2024 4:16 pm : link
You could see this season coming a mile away.
A 95 year old Belichick manages that better  
Go Terps : 9/15/2024 4:16 pm : link
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No punts for Washington  
jeff57 : 9/15/2024 4:16 pm : link
No turnovers.

Great job D.
......  
Route 9 : 9/15/2024 4:17 pm : link
Fuck these defense. I'd seriously think a 10 teenagers could go out there and bitch slap them all over the place. They're that soft.
Hats off to the defense!  
Milton : 9/15/2024 4:17 pm : link
They did a great job of keeping Washington out of the end zone.
RE: No punts for Washington  
hopthered : 9/15/2024 4:18 pm : link
In comment 16610896 jeff57 said:
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No turnovers.

Great job D.
Yea but the whole bend but don't break thing ... bad by design
RE: What kind of sh***y zone was that?  
56goat : 9/15/2024 4:18 pm : link
In comment 16610870 Bramton1 said:
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Washington receivers were wide open every play. If they didn't consistently shoot themselves in the foot every trip to the red zone, we would have gotten blown out.


7 yard cushion over and over again, made it way too easy on a rookie QB in his 2nd start.
Gotta love the hard knocks comment  
Andy in Halifax : 9/15/2024 4:18 pm : link
About run defense when hiring Bowen 😂😂😂

Sucks that Nabers dropped it because anything that overshadows the pathetic defense today is unjust.

Though I did think that penalty on Phillips was bullshit. That was a stop otherwise.
#0 is a zero  
gtt350 : 9/15/2024 4:19 pm : link
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RE: Solid game from Jones  
HomerJones45 : 9/15/2024 4:19 pm : link
In comment 16610862 IchabodGiant said:
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Doesn’t change the fact we need to find his replacement for next year.

Nantes is a stud. Will help immensely with our new QB next year.
yes, he was meh. Mayfield rang up near 300 yards and 4 td’s and WTF was missing its best db today.
This Isa game loser franchises lose  
islander1 : 9/15/2024 4:20 pm : link
And that's what we are now.

Anyone saying Jones played well is foolish. He looked down virtually every throw as usual. He's a poor NFL QB.

The defense though? One of the more toothless efforts, top to bottom. Where to even start?

Oh, 3rd and long failures. Or do we start with pathetic run defense?
I don’t think we win a game the rest of the season  
NJ_GIANTS : 9/15/2024 4:20 pm : link
We have some really good players, but not a team. The coaching staff has just gotten worse this year, terrible play calling.

#1 pick in the draft, here we come.
RE: Solid game from Jones  
HomerJones45 : 9/15/2024 4:20 pm : link
In comment 16610862 IchabodGiant said:
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Doesn’t change the fact we need to find his replacement for next year.

Nantes is a stud. Will help immensely with our new QB next year.
yes, he was meh. Mayfield rang up near 300 yards and 4 td’s and WTF was missing its best db today.
RE: If the defense could get ONE stop today...  
k2tampa : 9/15/2024 4:21 pm : link
In comment 16610828 DefenseWins said:
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we could have won.


They actually had one, but the refs called holding on Phillips when he got blocked to the ground by a TE.
Basic  
Jaenyg : 9/15/2024 4:22 pm : link
Contingency planning.

Mgt 101.
Daboll/Schoen....  
thrunthrublue : 9/15/2024 4:26 pm : link
Put the "0" in h0rrible!
Imagine week 4 hosting Dallas at 0-3  
Sean : 9/15/2024 4:32 pm : link
That crowd will not be pleasant.
Completely on the D and the coachiing  
PatersonPlank : 9/15/2024 4:34 pm : link
Washington did not punt, thats amazing
How can you not bring a K, its malpractice
RE: Imagine week 4 hosting Dallas at 0-3  
The_Boss : 9/15/2024 4:38 pm : link
In comment 16610926 Sean said:
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That crowd will not be pleasant.


Nothing to imagine. It’s gonna come to fruition.
Offense needs to score more than 18 points  
US1 Giants : 9/15/2024 4:39 pm : link
Can't win many games scoring in the teens.
Getting Origin unreachable errors  
BigBlueCane : 9/15/2024 4:40 pm : link
makes me wonder if even the servers are tired of this crap.
215 Washington rushing yards  
M.S. : 9/15/2024 4:40 pm : link
Giants are soft and weak at the point of attack.

Just the worst.
Completely lined up for Belichick  
larryflower37 : 9/15/2024 4:42 pm : link
No way this organization doesn't give him the farm.
RE: Getting Origin unreachable errors  
OBJRoyal : 9/15/2024 4:45 pm : link
In comment 16610931 BigBlueCane said:
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makes me wonder if even the servers are tired of this crap.


Been getting them too. The mouse gave up
RE: Offense needs to score more than 18 points  
PatersonPlank : 9/15/2024 4:45 pm : link
In comment 16610929 US1 Giants said:
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Can't win many games scoring in the teens.


They only had the ball 7 times and scored 3 TDs. Add in the Nabers drop and Singletary's fumble, and that 5 scoring drives in 7. Washington had the ball all game. It really does fall squarely on the D
That was an absolutely gutless performance by the cream puff unit  
truebluelarry : 9/15/2024 4:46 pm : link
known as the defense.

Seven possessions, seven FGs. Not punts, no takeaways. I've never seen anything like that in 45 years of watching football.

The tackling was absolutely pathetic. No fundamentals. And no pass rush from the front four (unless there was a blitz).

I don't think the roster mismanagement or Gano disaster played into the outcome all that much, if he played the Giants still lose.

If it weren't for Washington being a bad team that repeatedly shot themselves in the foot every time they were in the red zone with numerous false starts (I lost count, was it five?) the Giants would've been blown out.

I can't believe I'm sick of this team after two games. I'm ready to move on to hockey.



Belichick should spend his entire fall watching college games,  
CT Charlie : 9/15/2024 4:47 pm : link
the better to ace the draft.
They said if you start 0-2 in the season...  
jomanc : 9/15/2024 4:47 pm : link
you have a 6% chance of making the playoffs. Although Jones was better today, he was not good at all in long passes. I think this may be his best game of the year, because when he plays against real good defenses, he will suck. Another loss or 2 he will be benched.
also, our defense should be much much better so not sure if it is bowen's schemes or bad lack of pass rush.
If anyone had looked at basically most of the NYG wins in the past  
ThomasG : 9/15/2024 4:48 pm : link
5-6 years, I would think you would conclude having a functional FG Kicker would be a must.

I'm okay with the loss though. All good here.
The offense  
Giantsbigblue : 9/15/2024 4:49 pm : link
Played really well today. They just didn't get many shots at it. Commanders controlled the game. That was one of the worst defensive performances I've seen and the 21 points allowed is a mirage.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/15/2024 4:50 pm : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
Brian Daboll hammering that it was a hamstring injury for Graham Gano, not a groin like yesterday.

Im not sure that holds water #Giants
 
christian : 9/15/2024 4:50 pm : link
This has to be how fans who were bullish on Judge felt.

I really respect the job he did in 2022, but those lights are getting pretty dim for Dabs.
RE: If anyone had looked at basically most of the NYG wins in the past  
Route 9 : 9/15/2024 4:51 pm : link
In comment 16610954 ThomasG said:
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5-6 years, I would think you would conclude having a functional FG Kicker would be a must.

I'm okay with the loss though. All good here.


Same. Easy money. They are a joke.
RE: …  
Route 9 : 9/15/2024 4:51 pm : link
In comment 16610967 christian said:
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This has to be how fans who were bullish on Judge felt.

I really respect the job he did in 2022, but those lights are getting pretty dim for Dabs.


Doesn't matter.
The fact that Gano was on the injured report yesterday  
PetesHereNow : 9/15/2024 4:51 pm : link
And they didn't activate a backup kicker to cover for the eventuality that he couldn't go is an awful coaching decision that should have been learned during last year's Jet game.

What was more valuable in today's game? A kicker who could have got us another 5 points or one of your special teams "demons" lol.
My daughter  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/15/2024 4:51 pm : link
just sent me another picture for the front page.
RE: ...  
section125 : 9/15/2024 4:52 pm : link
In comment 16610962 Eric from BBI said:
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Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
Brian Daboll hammering that it was a hamstring injury for Graham Gano, not a groin like yesterday.

Im not sure that holds water #Giants


What doesn't hold water? It was a hammy today. Previous was a groin. Two separate injuries.
RE: ...  
ThomasG : 9/15/2024 4:53 pm : link
In comment 16610962 Eric from BBI said:
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Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
Brian Daboll hammering that it was a hamstring injury for Graham Gano, not a groin like yesterday.

Im not sure that holds water #Giants


The groin injury is Schoen/Daboll's decision making
...  
christian : 9/15/2024 4:54 pm : link
In comment 16610972 Route 9 said:
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This has to be how fans who were bullish on Judge felt.

I really respect the job he did in 2022, but those lights are getting pretty dim for Dabs.

Doesn't matter.

Oh for sure. I think it's as close to over as it can be after two weeks.
RE: RE: ...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/15/2024 4:54 pm : link
In comment 16610977 section125 said:
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Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
Brian Daboll hammering that it was a hamstring injury for Graham Gano, not a groin like yesterday.

Im not sure that holds water #Giants



What doesn't hold water? It was a hammy today. Previous was a groin. Two separate injuries.


The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
@GiantInsider
Asked if Gano could have hurt his hamstring favoring the groin, Daboll said “I’m not a doctor”
If they kick the extra points  
TheEvilLurker : 9/15/2024 4:56 pm : link
They win this game. It's all on coaching for me.
RE: RE: ...  
GF1080 : 9/15/2024 4:56 pm : link
In comment 16610977 section125 said:
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In comment 16610962 Eric from BBI said:


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Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
Brian Daboll hammering that it was a hamstring injury for Graham Gano, not a groin like yesterday.

Im not sure that holds water #Giants



What doesn't hold water? It was a hammy today. Previous was a groin. Two separate injuries.


Because if he's running at full speed trying to not injure his groin it can place strain on other body parts.
Greenfield this whole thing  
Go Terps : 9/15/2024 4:56 pm : link
I've said it before: you'd rather be an expansion franchise with just an owner and no other staff than to be the Giants.
Sole possession of last place.....  
Fishmanjim57 : 9/15/2024 4:56 pm : link
for the season, maybe even the entire NFL. This team is a dumpster fire. There is no direction from anyone/anywhere.
RE: RE: RE: ...  
Walnuts : 9/15/2024 4:56 pm : link
In comment 16610987 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16610962 Eric from BBI said:


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Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
Brian Daboll hammering that it was a hamstring injury for Graham Gano, not a groin like yesterday.

Im not sure that holds water #Giants



What doesn't hold water? It was a hammy today. Previous was a groin. Two separate injuries.



The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
@GiantInsider
Asked if Gano could have hurt his hamstring favoring the groin, Daboll said “I’m not a doctor”


It's too bad they didn't have any doctors they could talk to about the health of their players
The Giants have started 0-2  
Keaton028 : 9/15/2024 4:57 pm : link
10 out of the last 12 years. Amazing.
RE: RE: RE: ...  
ThomasG : 9/15/2024 4:57 pm : link
In comment 16610987 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16610962 Eric from BBI said:


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Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
Brian Daboll hammering that it was a hamstring injury for Graham Gano, not a groin like yesterday.

Im not sure that holds water #Giants



What doesn't hold water? It was a hammy today. Previous was a groin. Two separate injuries.



The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
@GiantInsider
Asked if Gano could have hurt his hamstring favoring the groin, Daboll said “I’m not a doctor”



Dammit Jim, I am worthless head coach, not a doctor.
The dumb  
Giantsbigblue : 9/15/2024 4:57 pm : link
Decision was not activating another kicker today. The even dumber decision was having Gano handle the kick offs on an injured groin.
why not have Gillen kick off  
bluepepper : 9/15/2024 4:59 pm : link
if Gano has an injury then lighten his load and save him for place kicks. With the new KO rules you are not playing for touchbacks anyway
RE: RE: What kind of sh***y zone was that?  
Section331 : 9/15/2024 4:59 pm : link
In comment 16610907 56goat said:
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Washington receivers were wide open every play. If they didn't consistently shoot themselves in the foot every trip to the red zone, we would have gotten blown out.



7 yard cushion over and over again, made it way too easy on a rookie QB in his 2nd start.


Mind boggling, and it’s not like Commanders WR’s are the 2000 Rams. Press cover them!
RE: The  
JFIB : 9/15/2024 5:00 pm : link
In comment 16610890 AcidTest said:
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loss is on the FO and the coaches.

In three offseasons, Schoen still hasn't found a credible run defender to put next to Lawrence, who he inherited. His player personnel decisions overall have been poor IMO.

Daboll didn't activate the PS kicker despite knowing that Gano was already hurt. Designed runs with an injury riddled QB like Jones were also a mistake. Also, too many runs to Singletary straight into the line. None around the end from what I saw, and not enough screens.

Jones executed well what he was required to do, but from what I saw, he was rarely going through multiple reads.

Nabers was great. The drop was unfortunate, but as I said on the game thread, he likely took his eyes off the ball for a split second to make sure his feet were in bounds. We're not even in the game without him.


We had one and traded him to Seattle , essentially for Burns who looks like he wasn’t worth the second pick or the massive contract. Honestly, can anyone name a move Schoen has made that improved this team significantly?
RE: RE: ...  
PetesHereNow : 9/15/2024 5:00 pm : link
In comment 16610977 section125 said:
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In comment 16610962 Eric from BBI said:


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Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
Brian Daboll hammering that it was a hamstring injury for Graham Gano, not a groin like yesterday.

Im not sure that holds water #Giants



What doesn't hold water? It was a hammy today. Previous was a groin. Two separate injuries.


It's not a huge mental leap that Gano might injure himself favoring his groin. Daboll needs to plan for these contingencies or eventualities. You know your team needs a kicker. Going into a game with a compromised kicker means a backup should be available, especially since we had one on the practice squad.
RE: RE: RE: ...  
section125 : 9/15/2024 5:00 pm : link
In comment 16610993 GF1080 said:
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In comment 16610962 Eric from BBI said:


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Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
Brian Daboll hammering that it was a hamstring injury for Graham Gano, not a groin like yesterday.

Im not sure that holds water #Giants



What doesn't hold water? It was a hammy today. Previous was a groin. Two separate injuries.



Because if he's running at full speed trying to not injure his groin it can place strain on other body parts.


No. Don't bullshit to fill a narrative.

I don't disagree that they should have had the other kicker on the roster, at all. I do disagree that the hammy was caused by the groin.
I'd blame Gano just having to chase down a returner because of piss poor coverage.
RE: Getting Origin unreachable errors  
islander1 : 9/15/2024 5:00 pm : link
In comment 16610931 BigBlueCane said:
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makes me wonder if even the servers are tired of this crap.


Lol, exactly.
RE: …  
Section331 : 9/15/2024 5:01 pm : link
In comment 16610967 christian said:
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This has to be how fans who were bullish on Judge felt.

I really respect the job he did in 2022, but those lights are getting pretty dim for Dabs.


Yep, looking like another house cleaning.
Maybe instead of hiring coordinator  
PHX Giants Fan : 9/15/2024 5:04 pm : link
After coordinator, we ought to think about hiring a head coach.
RE: RE: RE: RE: ...  
Giantsbigblue : 9/15/2024 5:04 pm : link
In comment 16611021 section125 said:
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Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
Brian Daboll hammering that it was a hamstring injury for Graham Gano, not a groin like yesterday.

Im not sure that holds water #Giants



What doesn't hold water? It was a hammy today. Previous was a groin. Two separate injuries.



Because if he's running at full speed trying to not injure his groin it can place strain on other body parts.



No. Don't bullshit to fill a narrative.

I don't disagree that they should have had the other kicker on the roster, at all. I do disagree that the hammy was caused by the groin.
I'd blame Gano just having to chase down a returner because of piss poor coverage.


It happens all the time. People favor one injury and put strain on another part of their body.
\WFT should have won this one a lot easier  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/15/2024 5:06 pm : link
O was a little better but not sure this WFT is a good test at this point. Pretty much the BD scheme with heavy targets to to an outhandling WR and at least for today some semblance of run game with the RB's. D was just terrible again.

Defensive post game with another "I have been around long enough" comments.
RE: RE: RE: RE: ...  
GF1080 : 9/15/2024 5:06 pm : link
In comment 16611021 section125 said:
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In comment 16610962 Eric from BBI said:


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Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
Brian Daboll hammering that it was a hamstring injury for Graham Gano, not a groin like yesterday.

Im not sure that holds water #Giants



What doesn't hold water? It was a hammy today. Previous was a groin. Two separate injuries.



Because if he's running at full speed trying to not injure his groin it can place strain on other body parts.



No. Don't bullshit to fill a narrative.

I don't disagree that they should have had the other kicker on the roster, at all. I do disagree that the hammy was caused by the groin.
I'd blame Gano just having to chase down a returner because of piss poor coverage.


LOL it's not BS. You hear about it all the time. Think what you need to though.
RE: Maybe instead of hiring coordinator  
Giantsbigblue : 9/15/2024 5:06 pm : link
In comment 16611033 PHX Giants Fan said:
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After coordinator, we ought to think about hiring a head coach.


It's the only reason Kafka is still here IMO. You can't have a new Offensive, Defensive, Special teams, o line coach, etc. Without looking at the idiot who hired all them.
Bring back the Whipping boy thread  
Paulie Walnuts : 9/15/2024 5:07 pm : link
Needed
I’m living in the past still…  
GRBlue : 9/15/2024 5:09 pm : link
But it’s times like these where I still miss TC.

He loved to take the points. Would’ve easily scratched a number of players for another kicker on the active roster.
.  
Banks : 9/15/2024 5:09 pm : link
It seemed fitting that the one time the defense showed up, we got a bogus penalty. There's a bunch of single plays that could have changed the outcome: Singletary's fumble, Nabers drop, the bogus holding, but I put most of the blame on the defense. I can't believe how poor they were. They must've had the ball for 40 minutes
It's just unbelievable to me that  
Simms11 : 9/15/2024 5:10 pm : link
Washington didn't even have to punt today! ILBs and Edge contain were absolutely shit today. Bowen appears clueless in making adjustments, as well. How do we turn this mess around. The D was supposed to be the best part of the team this year and we are relegated to this crap! Banks must of went off on the air?!
RE: .  
Simms11 : 9/15/2024 5:12 pm : link
In comment 16611059 Banks said:
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It seemed fitting that the one time the defense showed up, we got a bogus penalty. There's a bunch of single plays that could have changed the outcome: Singletary's fumble, Nabers drop, the bogus holding, but I put most of the blame on the defense. I can't believe how poor they were. They must've had the ball for 40 minutes


They had the ball 15 more minutes then us....that's an entire freaking quarter!
RE: My daughter  
Scooter185 : 9/15/2024 5:12 pm : link
In comment 16610975 Eric from BBI said:
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just sent me another picture for the front page.


To quote Bart Scott

Can't wait
Slayton  
speedywheels : 9/15/2024 5:13 pm : link
He had the kind of game today that makes me LOL at the posters who try to defend him next gen stats like "catch rate", "drop rate", and how he's a "bargain contract" because of all that.

The stats don't account for the timing of the drops (how the fuck could he drop the two point conversion???); the stats don't account for committing absolutely back breaking penalties; the stats don't account for lazy route running that allowed a defender to get in position to knock a ball away that otherwise should have resulted in a first down.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, he's nothing more than a JAG. And to think - he was the #1 receiver on this team for two years!

He wasn't the sole reason they lost today, of course - but he's a pretty big reason. Sy may have to make an exception/expansion to his three duds, but however big that list is, Slayton sure did earn his place on it if he's there.

What’s with these 2 DL fronts?  
cosmicj : 9/15/2024 5:14 pm : link
I was hoping they would become a specialty formation post Wink.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: ...  
section125 : 9/15/2024 5:15 pm : link
In comment 16611040 GF1080 said:
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LOL it's not BS. You hear about it all the time. Think what you need to though.


Ok...
3 Tds on only 7 drives  
larryflower37 : 9/15/2024 5:16 pm : link
2 punts
1 fumble
1 on downs.
Washington held the Ball for 37 1/2 minutes and 215 rushing yds on 35 carries.
Defense absolutely lost this game.
Shameful
Watching Burns chase down a play and just stop and watch said it all  
gtt350 : 9/15/2024 5:16 pm : link
all I could think of was LT running across the entire field to make a tackle. This guy has the right number
RE: My daughter  
Blue21 : 9/15/2024 5:16 pm : link
In comment 16610975 Eric from BBI said:
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just sent me another picture for the front page.
This ought to be good
RE: The dumb  
VTChuck : 9/15/2024 5:17 pm : link
In comment 16611006 Giantsbigblue said:
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Decision was not activating another kicker today. The even dumber decision was having Gano handle the kick offs on an injured groin.


How about Gano’s decision… as an injured 30 something year old KICKER.. going all out to to try to run down a returner like you’re a linebacker. And surprise, surprise….you pull a hammy and are probably on IR for.weeks. Dumb ass decision by a guy who wasn’t going to make the tackle anyway
RE: My daughter  
The Mike : 9/15/2024 5:17 pm : link
In comment 16610975 Eric from BBI said:
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just sent me another picture for the front page.


You have to make that your background picture on your next Inside BBI!
Thibs  
cosmicj : 9/15/2024 5:18 pm : link
Much better game. He was also pursuing way downfield. Clearly a lot of effort by him. That sack he almost got from behind the QB - boy does Daniels havev a quick release.
Just kick it in the  
Dankbeerman : 9/15/2024 5:18 pm : link
endzone and if you don't walk off the field.

Gano was behind Ekler, he was never catching him. It doesn't matter if he was favoring his groin or not he shouldn't have been running.

I understand the want to hustle, but you can't be without a kicker. Don't let him hurt himself trying to tackle.
How can it be possible we're getting worse?  
Blue21 : 9/15/2024 5:18 pm : link
.
RE: Just kick it in the  
ILGMan : 9/15/2024 5:19 pm : link
In comment 16611092 Dankbeerman said:
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endzone and if you don't walk off the field.

Gano was behind Ekler, he was never catching him. It doesn't matter if he was favoring his groin or not he shouldn't have been running.

I understand the want to hustle, but you can't be without a kicker. Don't let him hurt himself trying to tackle.

Gilliam should’ve been kicking off.
The Irishman  
Blueworm : 9/15/2024 5:20 pm : link
Could have won it.

Why not a PS elevation based on the injury?
It kills me to keep saying this  
mittenedman : 9/15/2024 5:20 pm : link
but this team continues to be the Washington Generals.

Finding new, comical ways to lose every week. They play the role perfectly.

This week, their star player drops an easy pass with the game on the line, they get screwed by the officials, and they lose their K on the opening play, knowing he was gimpy and refusing to elevate their K2.

Gut wrenching loss, but this is what really bad teams do. Find ways to lose even when they should win.
Can we bring back  
Beef Wellington : 9/15/2024 5:23 pm : link
WINK? Maybe if Johnny Boy apologized ?
RE: that's  
Joe Beckwith : 9/15/2024 5:23 pm : link
In comment 16610844 Eric from BBI said:
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the end of Schoen and Daboll.

Rest of the season is just background noise.


I don’t think JM wants to pay for another second set of HC/GM to 2 years.
Maybe BD goes and JS gets 1 more year, unless BBrownis an acceptable next man up .
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/15/2024 5:23 pm : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Daboll got his first direct question about his job security. He was asked if he's concerned about his job if the results don't change. Daboll said, "I've done this for a long time. My focus is on the football team." He then directed a long glare at the reporter.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/15/2024 5:24 pm : link
Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
Brian Burns still in his uniform when we entered the locker room.

“Pissed.” Said the #Giants’ “competitive stamina” needs to improve. And they have to stop beating themselves.

“When you shoot yourself in the foot, you’re fucking yourself,” Burns said
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/15/2024 5:24 pm : link
Charlotte Carroll
@charlottecrrll
Malik Nabers: “I’m dissapointed. No matter how good of a game you can play, that last play came down to me.” #giants

“I’m hurt that I let those veterans down.”
RE: ...  
ThomasG : 9/15/2024 5:29 pm : link
In comment 16611114 Eric from BBI said:
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Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
Brian Burns still in his uniform when we entered the locker room.

“Pissed.” Said the #Giants’ “competitive stamina” needs to improve. And they have to stop beating themselves.

“When you shoot yourself in the foot, you’re fucking yourself,” Burns said


Burns with a subtle reference to the FG Kicker decision?
RE: ...  
The_Boss : 9/15/2024 5:29 pm : link
In comment 16611111 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Daboll got his first direct question about his job security. He was asked if he's concerned about his job if the results don't change. Daboll said, "I've done this for a long time. My focus is on the football team." He then directed a long glare at the reporter.


Daboll is gonna snap. There are still plenty of L’s headed our way over the next 8 weeks…
RE: It kills me to keep saying this  
Dave in PA : 9/15/2024 5:30 pm : link
In comment 16611102 mittenedman said:
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but this team continues to be the Washington Generals.

Finding new, comical ways to lose every week. They play the role perfectly.

This week, their star player drops an easy pass with the game on the line, they get screwed by the officials, and they lose their K on the opening play, knowing he was gimpy and refusing to elevate their K2.

Gut wrenching loss, but this is what really bad teams do. Find ways to lose even when they should win.
hardly gut wrenching. Pretty damn predictable actually
RE: ...  
ThomasG : 9/15/2024 5:30 pm : link
In comment 16611119 Eric from BBI said:
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Charlotte Carroll
@charlottecrrll
Malik Nabers: “I’m dissapointed. No matter how good of a game you can play, that last play came down to me.” #giants

“I’m hurt that I let those veterans down.”


Good game. Yeah, you have to catch that one.

Not sure we would have scored a TD anyway if you did, but whatever.
RE: RE: ...  
islander1 : 9/15/2024 5:33 pm : link
In comment 16611138 ThomasG said:
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In comment 16611114 Eric from BBI said:


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Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
Brian Burns still in his uniform when we entered the locker room.

“Pissed.” Said the #Giants’ “competitive stamina” needs to improve. And they have to stop beating themselves.

“When you shoot yourself in the foot, you’re fucking yourself,” Burns said



Burns with a subtle reference to the FG Kicker decision?


That was what I initially thought!
RE: ...  
nygiants16 : 9/15/2024 5:34 pm : link
In comment 16611111 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Daboll got his first direct question about his job security. He was asked if he's concerned about his job if the results don't change. Daboll said, "I've done this for a long time. My focus is on the football team." He then directed a long glare at the reporter.


When you realize its Pat Leonard asking the quesiton you realize why Daboll got so mad
RE: ...  
Mike from Ohio : 9/15/2024 5:34 pm : link
In comment 16611119 Eric from BBI said:
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Charlotte Carroll
@charlottecrrll
Malik Nabers: “I’m dissapointed. No matter how good of a game you can play, that last play came down to me.” #giants

“I’m hurt that I let those veterans down.”


Nabers was a bright spot today and good for him he thinks about it that way. But he was also the only reason we were in this game at all. He’ll make that catch in the games we need to win. A loss today was completely meaningless.
RE: If they kick the extra points  
compton : 9/15/2024 5:39 pm : link
In comment 16610992 TheEvilLurker said:
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They win this game. It's all on coaching for me.


I'm glad you brought that up. The 2 point conversion attempts didn't make sense to me. After the TD the Giants went up by three. A pat puts the Giants up by 4. A successful 2 point conversion puts them up by 5. What's the the difference being up 4 points vs 5 points. My only guess is Daboll lost all confidence in the kicker after the missed pat. And he made that decision twice under the same circumstance.
Our DL  
OlyWABigBlue : 9/15/2024 5:41 pm : link
needs to wake up and someone other than Dex needs to make plays. Also need the previous version of Okereke to show up.

On the plus side, the OL looks like its coming together.
I can't stand coaches like Bowen  
mittenedman : 9/15/2024 5:41 pm : link
Wink wasn't perfect but they have a massive downgrade at DC.
RE: RE: ...  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/15/2024 5:43 pm : link
In comment 16611155 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 16611111 Eric from BBI said:


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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Daboll got his first direct question about his job security. He was asked if he's concerned about his job if the results don't change. Daboll said, "I've done this for a long time. My focus is on the football team." He then directed a long glare at the reporter.



When you realize its Pat Leonard asking the quesiton you realize why Daboll got so mad


Pat Leonard’s involvement is the only possible thing that could keep me on Daboll’s side.
Positives:  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/15/2024 5:45 pm : link
#22

#10

Quite possibly the best Giants offensive line in the past decade
RE: RE: ...  
The_Boss : 9/15/2024 5:45 pm : link
In comment 16611155 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 16611111 Eric from BBI said:


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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Daboll got his first direct question about his job security. He was asked if he's concerned about his job if the results don't change. Daboll said, "I've done this for a long time. My focus is on the football team." He then directed a long glare at the reporter.



When you realize its Pat Leonard asking the quesiton you realize why Daboll got so mad


How do we know it’s Leonard who asked?
The missed PAT wasn't even Gilliam's fault  
ILGMan : 9/15/2024 5:46 pm : link
look at the replay and you will see laces facing wrong way.

Maybe he didn't trust the backup holder? Whatever it was it is embarassing.
RE: RE: RE: ...  
nygiants16 : 9/15/2024 5:46 pm : link
In comment 16611212 The_Boss said:
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In comment 16611155 nygiants16 said:


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In comment 16611111 Eric from BBI said:


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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Daboll got his first direct question about his job security. He was asked if he's concerned about his job if the results don't change. Daboll said, "I've done this for a long time. My focus is on the football team." He then directed a long glare at the reporter.



When you realize its Pat Leonard asking the quesiton you realize why Daboll got so mad



How do we know it’s Leonard who asked?


You can hear someone say Pat your turn and then the question is asked
When they hired Bowen, I was  
Section331 : 9/15/2024 5:47 pm : link
looking forward to watching a defense play with physicality.

I’m still waiting.
RE: RE: RE: RE: ...  
The_Boss : 9/15/2024 5:48 pm : link
In comment 16611216 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 16611155 nygiants16 said:


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In comment 16611111 Eric from BBI said:


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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Daboll got his first direct question about his job security. He was asked if he's concerned about his job if the results don't change. Daboll said, "I've done this for a long time. My focus is on the football team." He then directed a long glare at the reporter.



When you realize its Pat Leonard asking the quesiton you realize why Daboll got so mad



How do we know it’s Leonard who asked?



You can hear someone say Pat your turn and then the question is asked


Ahh ok. Thanks.
Bowen was Vrabel's yes  
mittenedman : 9/15/2024 5:50 pm : link
man just like he is Daboll's now. "Won't rock the boat."

Say what you will about Wink, this guy can't carry Wink's jockstrap.
RE: RE: The dumb  
Section331 : 9/15/2024 5:50 pm : link
In comment 16611087 VTChuck said:
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In comment 16611006 Giantsbigblue said:


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Decision was not activating another kicker today. The even dumber decision was having Gano handle the kick offs on an injured groin.



How about Gano’s decision… as an injured 30 something year old KICKER.. going all out to to try to run down a returner like you’re a linebacker. And surprise, surprise….you pull a hammy and are probably on IR for.weeks. Dumb ass decision by a guy who wasn’t going to make the tackle anyway


Come on, really? You’re gonna get on a guy for hustling? Take a break.
RE: I don’t think we win a game the rest of the season  
5BowlsSoon : 9/15/2024 5:53 pm : link
In comment 16610913 NJ_GIANTS said:
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We have some really good players, but not a team. The coaching staff has just gotten worse this year, terrible play calling.

#1 pick in the draft, here we come.


NOT SO FAST…..Carolina is much worse and they will be looking to draft another QB after the Bryce Young debacle….
RE: Can we bring back  
Wiggy : 9/15/2024 5:55 pm : link
In comment 16611108 Beef Wellington said:
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WINK? Maybe if Johnny Boy apologized ?
sure! And let’s get rid of Daboll so it’s not an uncomfortable environment for him
RE: ...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/15/2024 5:57 pm : link
In comment 16611111 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Daboll got his first direct question about his job security. He was asked if he's concerned about his job if the results don't change. Daboll said, "I've done this for a long time. My focus is on the football team." He then directed a long glare at the reporter.


I'm no fan of Leonard, but that isn't an outrageous ?. And Dabs is wilting.
This organization is clearly CURSED!  
GiantBlue : 9/15/2024 5:58 pm : link
We find more unique ways to lose games than any organization I know.

While other teams find younger kickers, we stick with an injury prone kicker at an age when athletes start breaking down.

Jones, Nabers, Singletary, Burns, and Wan’Dale show us the potential and we lose because we can’t attempt a field goal or an extra point!

Unbelievable! Cursed!
RE: What’s with these 2 DL fronts?  
jeff57 : 9/15/2024 6:02 pm : link
In comment 16611075 cosmicj said:
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I was hoping they would become a specialty formation post Wink.


Obviously not to stop the run.
RE: that's  
AcidTest : 9/15/2024 6:03 pm : link
In comment 16610844 Eric from BBI said:
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the end of Schoen and Daboll.

Rest of the season is just background noise.


Think so as well. I'd like to say that's an overreaction, but given our schedule, my guess we're looking at three or four wins at most. Schoen's personnel decisions and Daboll's game day decisions have been extremely poor. They came in together, and they will likely go out the same way.
RE: RE: that's  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/15/2024 6:05 pm : link
In comment 16611274 AcidTest said:
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In comment 16610844 Eric from BBI said:


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the end of Schoen and Daboll.

Rest of the season is just background noise.



Think so as well. I'd like to say that's an overreaction, but given our schedule, my guess we're looking at three or four wins at most. Schoen's personnel decisions and Daboll's game day decisions have been extremely poor. They came in together, and they will likely go out the same way.


@ this point, good fucking riddance.
The strategy of not forcing Washington to punt  
jeff57 : 9/15/2024 6:06 pm : link
Worked brilliantly
I’ve been following this team for over 40 years,  
Silver Spoon : 9/15/2024 6:07 pm : link
And I really don’t give a shit anymore. Team has been a clusterfuck for almost 15 years, enough already.
Washington penalties in red zone kept us in the game imv  
Rick in Dallas : 9/15/2024 6:07 pm : link
Score should have been a lot worse against us.
Our soft defense couldn’t stop any NFL team.
We can’t stop the run or pass. Bowen’s scheme sucks.
Daboll cannot or should not go into a game with a lame kicker. Malpractice!!!
Too bad Jones can’t play 17 games against Washington. He was good today.
2 big drops by Slayton and Nabers.
OL had a good game today.
Dru Phillips was a STUD today.
Burns and Thibs need to be more effective in the pass rush. Washington does not have a good OL.

More importantly, does Bowen realize halftime is used to make adjustments!!!
I have lost all faith in Daboll as a HC. Schoen is one step from going over the cliff.
I don’t trust these 2 guys at all in rebuilding the Giants.
We are in the Dark Ages!!!

Bad  
AcidTest : 9/15/2024 6:08 pm : link
tackling, over pursuing, missed assignments. We've seen it all before. I'm not sure why I continue to hope that we might some day stop making those mistakes. But the worst was the near total lack of pressure from BB and KT against mediocre tackles. That's on Schoen.
RE: ...  
FStubbs : 9/15/2024 6:09 pm : link
In comment 16611111 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Daboll got his first direct question about his job security. He was asked if he's concerned about his job if the results don't change. Daboll said, "I've done this for a long time. My focus is on the football team." He then directed a long glare at the reporter.


Daboll is Joe Judge. I don't see any difference at this point.
RE: I can't stand coaches like Bowen  
NYGiantFL007 : 9/15/2024 6:10 pm : link
In comment 16611190 mittenedman said:
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Wink wasn't perfect but they have a massive downgrade at DC.



That is why he has an NFL job and everyone runs their Defense like he does... ohh wait.
RE: I can't stand coaches like Bowen  
FStubbs : 9/15/2024 6:11 pm : link
In comment 16611190 mittenedman said:
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Wink wasn't perfect but they have a massive downgrade at DC.


I'm starting to wonder if Wink's rebellion wasn't in fact because he knew Daboll was incompetent and he tried to fix things from the DC position rather than go down with the ship.
how about Hyatt?  
jmalls23 : 9/15/2024 6:13 pm : link
he does not play!
Hyatt is way overrated by BBI  
Rick in Dallas : 9/15/2024 6:20 pm : link
It takes a lot more than just being fast to be a NFL WR.
Another busted 3rd round pick.
RE: RE: I can't stand coaches like Bowen  
nygiants16 : 9/15/2024 6:20 pm : link
In comment 16611303 FStubbs said:
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In comment 16611190 mittenedman said:


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Wink wasn't perfect but they have a massive downgrade at DC.



I'm starting to wonder if Wink's rebellion wasn't in fact because he knew Daboll was incompetent and he tried to fix things from the DC position rather than go down with the ship.


Is thatbwhy he was firdd in Baltimore? or couldnt get a job in the NFL?
FStubbs  
cosmicj : 9/15/2024 6:22 pm : link
I’ve been wondering the same thing. We’re judging the situation based on the word from one side, not both.
RE: Can we bring back  
Angel Eyes : 9/15/2024 6:24 pm : link
In comment 16611108 Beef Wellington said:
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WINK? Maybe if Johnny Boy apologized ?

If the Giants brought back Wink the same tendencies would be there.
Did somebody  
Maggot Brain : 9/15/2024 6:30 pm : link
say Jones played well today? Laughable take. Threw into double and triple coverage numerous times. Cannot throw the deep ball. Hit a couple of wide open throws. Big fuckin whoop.
Jones is not good. Period!  
GiantBlue : 9/15/2024 6:36 pm : link
But Nabers is happy getting all those throws.

The suck continues.
RE: RE: ...  
Skully88 : 9/15/2024 6:38 pm : link
In comment 16611155 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 16611111 Eric from BBI said:


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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Daboll got his first direct question about his job security. He was asked if he's concerned about his job if the results don't change. Daboll said, "I've done this for a long time. My focus is on the football team." He then directed a long glare at the reporter.



When you realize its Pat Leonard asking the quesiton you realize why Daboll got so mad



Who cares if it was a shit stirrer who asked it…. It is a valid question and the truth hurts. Scheon and Daboll are in over their heads and they do nothing day in and day out to prove otherwise.
RE: RE: RE: ...  
k2tampa : 9/15/2024 6:40 pm : link
In comment 16611152 islander1 said:
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In comment 16611114 Eric from BBI said:


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Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
Brian Burns still in his uniform when we entered the locker room.

“Pissed.” Said the #Giants’ “competitive stamina” needs to improve. And they have to stop beating themselves.

“When you shoot yourself in the foot, you’re fucking yourself,” Burns said



Burns with a subtle reference to the FG Kicker decision?



That was what I initially thought!


More likely he's talking about the penalties on the defense on failed third downs that extended three or four Washington drives.
Bar  
jwb50 : 9/15/2024 6:45 pm : link
Has been so fuckin low with GM HC and QB
Below average seems good.
18 points against one of the worst defenses in the league  
SimpleMan : 9/15/2024 6:46 pm : link
and somehow our defense was even worse. I would be excited for a complete tear-down/rebuild except who has any faith in Mara getting out of his own way?
Wink  
PhilSimms15 : 9/15/2024 6:52 pm : link
I’m still not clear why Daboll couldn’t make it work with his DC. Wink’s defense wasn’t perfect but his defense was a leaning in defense and Bowen’s is a lean out.

One brings the energy to the other team and one feels like the D is on its heels.

Also, Wink’s defense lead the league in forced turnovers last season.
RE: Wink  
NYGiantFL007 : 9/15/2024 7:05 pm : link
In comment 16611412 PhilSimms15 said:
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I’m still not clear why Daboll couldn’t make it work with his DC. Wink’s defense wasn’t perfect but his defense was a leaning in defense and Bowen’s is a lean out.

One brings the energy to the other team and one feels like the D is on its heels.

Also, Wink’s defense lead the league in forced turnovers last season.


We entered delusional zone now. Guy cant even get a linebacker job in the NFL.
RE: RE: Wink  
mittenedman : 9/15/2024 7:16 pm : link
In comment 16611444 NYGiantFL007 said:
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I’m still not clear why Daboll couldn’t make it work with his DC. Wink’s defense wasn’t perfect but his defense was a leaning in defense and Bowen’s is a lean out.

One brings the energy to the other team and one feels like the D is on its heels.

Also, Wink’s defense lead the league in forced turnovers last season.



We entered delusional zone now. Guy cant even get a linebacker job in the NFL.


It's delusional to think Wink Martindale is a better defensive coordinator than Shane Bowen? Sure...
He hopped on a plane and left town trying to get paid to sit at home  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/15/2024 7:21 pm : link
after his defensive assistants tried to undermine the head coach. I don't know how you 'make that work'.
RE: Our DL  
bluewave : 9/15/2024 7:22 pm : link
In comment 16611188 OlyWABigBlue said:
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needs to wake up and someone other than Dex needs to make plays. Also need the previous version of Okereke to show up.

On the plus side, the OL looks like its coming together.


Our LE and RE playing next to DEX are horrible! Double team Dex and the others can't do a damn thing!@!
You are not  
TommyWiseau : 9/15/2024 7:25 pm : link
going to win many games with only 4 players on the team catching passes. They need to get some other players involved. Soon enough Nabers will be double teamed
Be interested in hearing  
bc4life : 9/15/2024 7:25 pm : link
Sy and Skinner's review. It's going to take the defense a while to gel.
Postgame interview - Daboll and others  
US1 Giants : 9/15/2024 7:26 pm : link
Daboll sounds defensive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8CFIB_diJs - ( New Window )
RE: Wink  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/15/2024 7:36 pm : link
In comment 16611412 PhilSimms15 said:
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I’m still not clear why Daboll couldn’t make it work with his DC. Wink’s defense wasn’t perfect but his defense was a leaning in defense and Bowen’s is a lean out.

One brings the energy to the other team and one feels like the D is on its heels.

Also, Wink’s defense lead the league in forced turnovers last season.


The only explanation for Wink's behavior was he was trying to replace Daboll. Nothing else makes sense.

Make it work? Wink started a coup.
RE: RE: Wink  
MojoEd : 9/15/2024 7:40 pm : link
In comment 16611527 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16611412 PhilSimms15 said:


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I’m still not clear why Daboll couldn’t make it work with his DC. Wink’s defense wasn’t perfect but his defense was a leaning in defense and Bowen’s is a lean out.

One brings the energy to the other team and one feels like the D is on its heels.

Also, Wink’s defense lead the league in forced turnovers last season.



The only explanation for Wink's behavior was he was trying to replace Daboll. Nothing else makes sense.

Make it work? Wink started a coup.

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RE: Wink  
bc4life : 9/15/2024 7:43 pm : link
see Dallas Cowboy games
Let’s be serious here  
Paul326 : 9/15/2024 7:45 pm : link
The Commanders DOMINATED the time of possession. They never punted. Defense had a lot more to do with the loss. You can’t score if you don’t have the ball. 🏈
Paul326  
bc4life : 9/15/2024 7:46 pm : link
Could not see the game- wonder who the main culprits were
So Bowen’s defense sucks against the run,  
Section331 : 9/15/2024 7:48 pm : link
but you want to bring Wink back? His run defenses were worse. Scheme is part of it, but a lack of impact players is too. That is on Schoen.
Winks defense were not good  
GiantsFan84 : 9/15/2024 7:49 pm : link
He sucked against good teams and beat up scrub QBs. Stop w making him sound good.

Bowen does suck and it was a bad hire. It seemed during the process they didn’t get the guys they wanted. And this is the end result of that.
RE: that's  
rnargi : 9/15/2024 7:51 pm : link
In comment 16610844 Eric from BBI said:
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the end of Schoen and Daboll.

Rest of the season is just background noise.


I don't think so. If ownership thought they weren't safe, no way it doesn't mandate them to pay Barkley, no way it lets them trade draft capital and sign Burns to a massive deal, let alone let them have another go at the draft. 2 games doesn't change the calculus there. If it DOES...there is no reason to ever watch this team again until ownership sells.
The thing  
jtfuoco : 9/15/2024 7:55 pm : link
About Wink he was not great but i would rather go down swinging then die by a thousand paper cuts like you see with this staff.
Coaching was not too bad  
JohnnyFlowers : 9/15/2024 8:16 pm : link
on D. We did not make plays that were right in front of us. How many sacks did he run out of? BO missing tackles. JP not coming down with that Pik. When you are an average team at best, games come down to making a few more plays than your opponent. And Yes, their run D was total dogshit.
RE: You are not  
santacruzom : 9/15/2024 8:21 pm : link
In comment 16611493 TommyWiseau said:
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going to win many games with only 4 players on the team catching passes. They need to get some other players involved. Soon enough Nabers will be double teamed


My thoughts exactly. I read that it was the 3rd highest pass allocation to one player since 2000.
Jesus!  
'25GiantsPride : 9/15/2024 8:22 pm : link
Did you all watch the same game I did!?! Flat and bad coaching. It's a theme with this organization whether it's the QB or the team. Bad football!
the interesting question on Martindale  
HomerJones45 : 9/15/2024 8:53 pm : link
Is what led him to start a coup of think it might be successful?
I really do not see anything above average in Daboll  
kelly : 9/15/2024 9:02 pm : link
In fact i see a way below average HC.

Poor personnel decisions.

Poor in game decisions.

Terrible post game demeanor. Seems really put out having to answer any questions,which considering we stink week after week as fans we deserve better
Sy’ posting  
ColHowPepper : 9/15/2024 9:07 pm : link
NYG only the 2nd time in NFL history to score 3 TDs, allow none and lose (he’s not vouching for its accuracy)
the lack of practice and real hitting  
BigBlueCane : 9/16/2024 3:40 am : link
in preseason is also taking its toll on teams with new defensive schemes and coaches.
RE: the interesting question on Martindale  
Mike in NY : 9/16/2024 4:47 am : link
In comment 16611750 HomerJones45 said:
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Is what led him to start a coup of think it might be successful?


His own ego? Remember he also had a falling out with John Harbaugh over his defensive schemes when they were getting hit with injuries at CB while Lamar Jackson was hurt. Harbaugh wanted to force teams to have to work to score because he could not count on his O to hold up in a shootout.
FYI  
jeff57 : 9/16/2024 8:21 am : link
McKinney had another INT yesterday.
McKinney not missed  
bc4life : 9/16/2024 8:24 am : link
Leo Williams is
RE: RE: Solid game from Jones  
kickoff : 9/16/2024 1:46 pm : link
In comment 16610911 HomerJones45 said:
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In comment 16610862 IchabodGiant said:


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Doesn’t change the fact we need to find his replacement for next year.

Nantes is a stud. Will help immensely with our new QB next year.

yes, he was meh. Mayfield rang up near 300 yards and 4 td’s and WTF was missing its best db today.

You know the Giants scored 3 TDs with only having the ball for 22min.
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