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| Field Yates @FieldYates The Giants’ best rookie was not on the field today, but this statement win over the Seahawks reaffirms what has become clear early this season: GM Joe Schoen had an outstanding 2024 NFL Draft. Key playmakers added on both sides of the ball. |
So, are you disputing this commentary on the 2024 draft or is this about something else maybe?
No problem with Schoen and Daboll. I would have a problem with bringing Jones back.
Jones is not staying unless they draft a QB. I still think(and you do too) that he is a severe limit on the offense.
I think they will draft a QB that fits Daboll's desired offense.
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The people saying that the Giants shouldn't run it back with Schoen/Daboll/Jones in 2025 are going to end up disappointed. It's not going to take much for people to lap it up.
So, are you disputing this commentary on the 2024 draft or is this about something else maybe?
The Giants are 2-3 and people are taking victory laps. It tells you all you need to know.
When the Giants finish 7-10 the story will be how close they are. "If this or that had happened they'd have been 10-7, let's carry this momentum into next year..."
It's old hat by now.
What did Yates say before today?
Not just the rookies they’ve brought in, but the vet players too.
Burns has two huge sacks and IMO we are seeing Dex get sacks because the edge rushers are doing a good job of forcing QB’s to step up into the absolute destruction #97 does to the interior almost every play.
Eluemunor, Runyan, and GVR have helped not only solidify the OL, but turn it into a strength.
And also, the coaches they brought in. I’ve been really impressed with Bowen these last 3 games. And Bricillo - enough can’t be said about the job he’s done so far.
It feels good to win!
We have heard this great draft before and evidence has shown guys haven’t progressed the longer they have been here
The Giants right now are 2-3 and still 2 games behind in the division. Its way early for pats on the back for a group that is 8-14 in the last 2 seasons and 10–19-1 after a 7-2 start.
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The people saying that the Giants shouldn't run it back with Schoen/Daboll/Jones in 2025 are going to end up disappointed. It's not going to take much for people to lap it up.
So, are you disputing this commentary on the 2024 draft or is this about something else maybe?
The Giants are 2-3 and people are taking victory laps. It tells you all you need to know.
When the Giants finish 7-10 the story will be how close they are. "If this or that had happened they'd have been 10-7, let's carry this momentum into next year..."
It's old hat by now.
Recognizing young talent and celebrating a good road win is not a victory lap. There’s a thin line between 6-11 and 11-6; it’s nice to see contributions from the young bucks on the team. If we can’t enjoy a good win, might as well stop rooting for the team. Not everyone is out on Schoen and/or Daboll, this is year 3 - let it play out and then we’ll make our arguments for and against these guys.
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In comment 16638545 Go Terps said:
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The people saying that the Giants shouldn't run it back with Schoen/Daboll/Jones in 2025 are going to end up disappointed. It's not going to take much for people to lap it up.
So, are you disputing this commentary on the 2024 draft or is this about something else maybe?
The Giants are 2-3 and people are taking victory laps. It tells you all you need to know.
When the Giants finish 7-10 the story will be how close they are. "If this or that had happened they'd have been 10-7, let's carry this momentum into next year..."
It's old hat by now.
Terps, that is bullshit. The statement is exactly how I felt today, we added solid players in the draft. Out best players made plays later. I get it. You want 17 losses and somehow to force Nara to sell.
This is about now.
The Giants went into the most hostile stadium in football and beat a 3-1 Seahawk team.
The offense, defense, and special teams all played well.
I hope that the young Giant team can build on this win.
The NFC East is there for the taking.
What did Yates say before today?
Again, can't deny they were big part of the win. I know you guys WANT to lose but I guess be disappointed happily!!
When they make the playoffs, it was a “mirage.” When they win a really nice road game against a tough opponent, it’s a “victory lap.”
But when they lose, they suck.
Enough with the bullshit dude.
He’s about a fan people. Time to understand this.
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In comment 16638545 Go Terps said:
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The people saying that the Giants shouldn't run it back with Schoen/Daboll/Jones in 2025 are going to end up disappointed. It's not going to take much for people to lap it up.
So, are you disputing this commentary on the 2024 draft or is this about something else maybe?
The Giants are 2-3 and people are taking victory laps. It tells you all you need to know.
When the Giants finish 7-10 the story will be how close they are. "If this or that had happened they'd have been 10-7, let's carry this momentum into next year..."
It's old hat by now.
Terps, enjoy a win for the love of Pete(Carroll). You don't need to be completely miserable after every game, win or lose.
I sometimes worry about you. When you can't enjoy a good win you have gone too far in your hatred and that is what it is. Not healthy.
Jones needs to go and still does. This should have been a complete blowout (well would have been if the zebras didn't blow the fumble...
He was praying the seahawks came back, he has already admitted he roots for the team tk lose
He is a troll stop giving him credence
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five games into a season is a bit much.
What did Yates say before today?
Again, can't deny they were big part of the win. I know you guys WANT to lose but I guess be disappointed happily!!
I'm not denying that. But that wasn't the point.
Let's stack some games with consistently good performances by more than Nabers before we used the word "outstanding".
He’s about a fan people. Time to understand this.
Who has been more accurate about this team over the last 5 years than Terps?
You? Ryanmkeane? Jack Stroud?
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In comment 16638545 Go Terps said:
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The people saying that the Giants shouldn't run it back with Schoen/Daboll/Jones in 2025 are going to end up disappointed. It's not going to take much for people to lap it up.
So, are you disputing this commentary on the 2024 draft or is this about something else maybe?
The Giants are 2-3 and people are taking victory laps. It tells you all you need to know.
When the Giants finish 7-10 the story will be how close they are. "If this or that had happened they'd have been 10-7, let's carry this momentum into next year..."
It's old hat by now.
I honestly feel sorry for your wife (if you’re married). And your coworkers. I guarantee you that every single person in your life has fantasized about throat punching you a million times. You are quite frankly the most miserable, negative fuck I’ve ever come across. I couldn’t imagine being someone that had to deal with you on a daily basis. Holy shitballs
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GT - must be nice to live every single day knowing what’s going to happen to the Giants every single season. I’m sure you thought they would just keel over and die today right? Get the fuck outta here.
He was praying the seahawks came back, he has already admitted he roots for the team tk lose
It's pathetic, isn't it?
Fact is, the team played as close to perfect a game today in all 3 phases as you'll see in the NFL, against a very good team. Only a subjective fraction of an inch spotted a TD so the outcome was closer than it should have.
Whatever criticisms of Jones, Daboll, Schoen etc. - even valid ones - have no place this week. This game was a masterpiece and went eons closer to proving their chops and vision.
You want to enjoy the win, go ahead. No one's stopping you.
But it's a sugar high. You want to enjoy sugar highs, that's fine. What you and I think isn't particularly important.
The problem is that ownership has never been able to distinguish between a sugar high and actual protein.
Where do you think this is all going?
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The fact anyone takes him serious is a joke anymore. I bet he is genuinely upset we lost today.
He’s about a fan people. Time to understand this.
Who has been more accurate about this team over the last 5 years than Terps?
You? Ryanmkeane? Jack Stroud?
They just won a game. Maybe he should take a break and shut the fuck up for once? Stop giving that clown credit for “being right”. It’s just a miserable fuck. We all hate the product that we’ve witnessed but holy shit man.
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The fact anyone takes him serious is a joke anymore. I bet he is genuinely upset we lost today.
He’s about a fan people. Time to understand this.
Who has been more accurate about this team over the last 5 years than Terps?
You? Ryanmkeane? Jack Stroud?
Its easy to be accurate when you are always negative and the team isnt very good
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The fact anyone takes him serious is a joke anymore. I bet he is genuinely upset we lost today.
He’s about a fan people. Time to understand this.
Who has been more accurate about this team over the last 5 years than Terps?
You? Ryanmkeane? Jack Stroud?
I am fairly confident I have been much more accurate anything football related than Terps has ever been. He says 2 things.
1. Mara is racist
2. Jones sucks
Just because he says it hundreds of times a day doesn’t make him a savant. It makes him a troll.
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In comment 16638654 JT039 said:
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The fact anyone takes him serious is a joke anymore. I bet he is genuinely upset we lost today.
He’s about a fan people. Time to understand this.
Who has been more accurate about this team over the last 5 years than Terps?
You? Ryanmkeane? Jack Stroud?
Its easy to be accurate when you are always negative and the team isnt very good
Bingo!
He’s about a fan people. Time to understand this.
I've been here since 03, he's one of the fucking worst. Legit argued with an insider who no longer posts here out of frustration.
Also I got torched last week for saying that Schoen has improved the roster. then this article comes out and validates everything I said, dude questioned my logic
you can tell he never played a sport.
What Schoen did right was fix the Oline pre draft. And target explosive guys with stand out traits.
the fact that so many guys play so many snaps already indicate how behind we were in talent last year.
It is nice to see all of this year's picks have started games
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In comment 16638545 Go Terps said:
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The people saying that the Giants shouldn't run it back with Schoen/Daboll/Jones in 2025 are going to end up disappointed. It's not going to take much for people to lap it up.
So, are you disputing this commentary on the 2024 draft or is this about something else maybe?
The Giants are 2-3 and people are taking victory laps. It tells you all you need to know.
When the Giants finish 7-10 the story will be how close they are. "If this or that had happened they'd have been 10-7, let's carry this momentum into next year..."
It's old hat by now.
Recognizing young talent and celebrating a good road win is not a victory lap. There’s a thin line between 6-11 and 11-6; it’s nice to see contributions from the young bucks on the team. If we can’t enjoy a good win, might as well stop rooting for the team. Not everyone is out on Schoen and/or Daboll, this is year 3 - let it play out and then we’ll make our arguments for and against these guys.
Totally agree !
Go root for the Jets ya handjob. Organization has flaws but the league is razor thin between great team and hot garbage. We are not that far off. If you want a total reboot you are the problem. Can't keep doing the "rinse and repeat" Let this staff grow and gain its footing. We will be better for it in the long run.
So fickle.
Link - ( New Window )
You want to enjoy the win, go ahead. No one's stopping you.
But it's a sugar high. You want to enjoy sugar highs, that's fine. What you and I think isn't particularly important.
The problem is that ownership has never been able to distinguish between a sugar high and actual protein.
Where do you think this is all going?
Sorry the Giants ruined your Masturbatory climax with a win. When Seattle got into range for the tying field goal you must have been real close.
So fickle. Link - ( New Window )
They get emotional during the game and then they are happy when their team plays well and wins a game. Oh the humanity!
I feel so bad for him.
It’s painfully obvious he’s here just to shit on the team, well mainly Jones. Just a miserable human being. Maybe if the giants can rattle off a couple more wins he will run home to his mom’s basement again.
Win-win for all of us.
If you are of the belief this regime is not good enough, 7-10 is probably just enough to bring everyone back.
I think that's the point.
If you are of the belief this regime is not good enough, 7-10 is probably just enough to bring everyone back.
I think that's the point.
Sean - again - did you miss the part where this regime made it to the final 4 of the NFC? And then won 6 games with a backup and 3rd string QB?
If you are of the belief this regime is not good enough, 7-10 is probably just enough to bring everyone back.
I think that's the point.
I still am. But I still root for them to win every week and happy when they play well.
Terps actively roots for them to lose. Hence why he is a troll.
I mean why take this guy seriously after this famous take on the Wilson trade to Denver
Go Terps : 3/8/2022 2:19 pm : link
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Too bad you ran with your ball home and didn’t sign it. Was a tough year for you.
Again, if all you want to do is shit in other fans when their team wins, you should reevaluate. Maybe 90 year old gidie will scare you off again. 🤷♂️
Tyler Nubin
- 21 combined tackles (T-3rd on the team) & 1 FF
- Surrendered only 50% completion rate in coverage (5/10 73 yds)
- Has played 100% of the team's snaps (250)
- 0 missed tackles
Ty Tracy in an emergency replacement for Singletary
18 carries | 129 yards
7.2 ypc
0 TD | 0 Fumbles
-Tyrone Tracy is the first Giants rookie RB to surpass 100 yards on the ground since Saquon Barkley vs. Dallas on 12/30/2018.
lol. He played very well today.
You lack any sense of knowledge or awareness about anything related to the Giants.
2022 was the first year under Schoen and Daboll. They won a road playoff game. By most standards, it was a great season. Daboll even won coach of the year.
Nobody is saying it’s a “banner.” But we all acknowledge that it actually happened. Like - it was a real life event that occur. Keep crying.
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The people saying that the Giants shouldn't run it back with Schoen/Daboll/Jones in 2025 are going to end up disappointed. It's not going to take much for people to lap it up.
So, are you disputing this commentary on the 2024 draft or is this about something else maybe?
He's upset the Giants won. And he wants Dabol, Schoen and Jones gone. If they win more than 8 games the guy will be need to be Baker After. Nothing else matters. Every thread he ruins shoe horning his hatred for Jones into it.
He’s about a fan people. Time to understand this.
He's it a troll. He believes the world is over if the Giants don't get rid of Jones. It's actually pathetic. This was about the most complete game this team has played in years. All three units had a big part I the win.
And the rookies were huge which was the lint of the thread. And this clown is genuinely upset. lol
What?
you have the timing of a fucking fart in church you know that?
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In comment 16638545 Go Terps said:
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The people saying that the Giants shouldn't run it back with Schoen/Daboll/Jones in 2025 are going to end up disappointed. It's not going to take much for people to lap it up.
So, are you disputing this commentary on the 2024 draft or is this about something else maybe?
The Giants are 2-3 and people are taking victory laps. It tells you all you need to know.
When the Giants finish 7-10 the story will be how close they are. "If this or that had happened they'd have been 10-7, let's carry this momentum into next year..."
It's old hat by now.
Again, you manufacture shit that is not there. No one is taking any fucking victory laps. We’re just happy They got a fucking win. You’re the one pissing and moaning.
Again why don’t you just wait until the bottom falls out before condemning this team. maybe they’re not that bad —-they weren’t that bad two years ago maybe they’re not that bad this year. can you at least wait and let the games play out first before you fucking bury everyone and imply in laughably pathetic fashion that it’s the fans hopes that are to blame.
What fucking victory laps are you talking about? We’re two and three no one‘s booking any fucking parade tickets at the Canyon of heroes ——you are making shit up just to start shit like you always do.
Literally mocking nyg fans for enjoying a win that hells keep the season alive in a thread detailing how good the rookies have looked.
You’re a caricature at this point. I’m convinced Eric pays you money to stir shit up.
Tyler Nubin
- 21 combined tackles (T-3rd on the team) & 1 FF
- Surrendered only 50% completion rate in coverage (5/10 73 yds)
- Has played 100% of the team's snaps (250)
- 0 missed tackles
Ty Tracy in an emergency replacement for Singletary
18 carries | 129 yards
7.2 ypc
0 TD | 0 Fumbles
-Tyrone Tracy is the first Giants rookie RB to surpass 100 yards on the ground since Saquon Barkley vs. Dallas on 12/30/2018.
Other than Barkley, who was the last rookie RB given enough opportunity to run for 100 yards? Giving a guy 2 carries and expecting him to rush 100 yards is not realistic.
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Too bad you ran with your ball home and didn’t sign it. Was a tough year for you.
And yet you praise the Steelers for that same exact tough and feisty playoff season. I know because I was on the very thread also praising the Steelers.
Yeah, why should we be accepting of a 9 win playoff season when the team went through the worst five year stretch in franchise history. Why care about a 9 win season that saw them win a playoff game. No Super Bowl? Throw it back I guess? Yet you praise other teams for their wins and condem the 23 nyg season for NOT winning 9-10 games.
And what if they go 9-8 this season? Get the 22 banner out ? Damn right we would. I like good seasons. They are better than bad seasons. If this regime can bust out their second good season in 3 years we should be thrilled. The wilderness needs to fucking stop. But nah, it’s Super Bowl or bust I guess. You’re full of shit.
But it appears he owned that mistake by some nice value signings on the OL which has turned that unit into a strength.
Not just the 2024 draft class but guys like
WanDale, Banks, DJ Davidson was very good today.
JMS looks like he’s the real deal….
Thibs is very good
Gnigjt
It's fair to think it can happen again. There are encouraging signs but honestly it's still unlikely we'll have more than 5 more opportunities to celebrate victories this year. It would take a very improbable improvement from a large chunk of the roster for that to happen.
Schoen's drafting has looked solid overall, but God I hope we don't wind up neglecting QB again if we do our typical 5-7 win season.
IT's fucking October! 2-3 means you're alive.
Some of you need to take your crystal ball and shove it where the sun don't shine.
Also, many fans have been right about how shitty this team has been since 2017 or so. And EVERY single one of them was wrong heading into 2022.
IT's a newer regime--3rd year in. They have a shot to orchestrate their 2nd good year over the first 3 seasons here. We need that. We don't need to blow this the fuck up again for the sake of some pie in the sky dream boat QB that makes some of you moist. Win and get the QB too. Do both. Win first.
2023's class brought a starting CB, OC, a speedster WR, and Eric Gray as contributors, and all draftees are currently on the team.
And then this year, which so far looks pretty good.
All things considered, Schoen has done a decent job at drafting and the limited sample size suggests he's getting better.
Have Schoen improved the roster in 2.25 years? Yes, and considerably in my opinion. Yours may differ. We are never going to get seismic changes due to the embedded presence of ownership but given where we were at the end of the Gettleman disaster, we are trending in the right direction. This is the first year that Schoen and Daboll are almost clear of the dead money stench of the Gettleman era.
3 weeks later the trajectory looks different. as does their opponent quality. still no excuse for the loss vs washington. but winning at seattle is a quality outcome that at least makes up for the dallas loss.
if they can continue progressing this season and not regress they will be back. it is really that simple. well run organizations generally get better over a season, that's what we need here.
IMO, that's the wrong way to do it. Schoen and Daboll are both first time GM and head coach. Yes, ideally, they wouldn't learn on the job, but that's a sunk cost and by the end of the year they'll have had 3 years on the job.
The idea is to look forward and think whether Schoen/Daboll are showing some improvement and have shown enough to expect that they'll be good going forward.
IMO, that's the wrong way to do it. Schoen and Daboll are both first time GM and head coach. Yes, ideally, they wouldn't learn on the job, but that's a sunk cost and by the end of the year they'll have had 3 years on the job.
The idea is to look forward and think whether Schoen/Daboll are showing some improvement and have shown enough to expect that they'll be good going forward.
agree that's the key. the problem was through the dallas game there wasnt any. now there looks to be some, the question is can they continue the trend?
this is clearly a roster that could/should be in the wild card race.
people seem intent on knocking opponents after they've beaten them but seattle has been a 9 win team in a tough division the last 2 years. down a bunch of players they played Detroit competitively on the road. Dallas just beat Pitt in pit. Washington has proven to be a good team.
If they can compete with WSH/DAL they can compete with anyone in the NFC. Need to see wins consistently though instead of once every few games. Just like the blocked kick vs seattle and dropped passes/no kicker vs washington, these games are all going to come down to 1 or 2 plays at the end.
He's young, was recommended by Parcells, and generally perceived as a smart guy.
Stability people!
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Weren't you just calling for a new regime last week. I'm not speaking for Terps, but I assume his frustration is the likelihood that this path will continue into 2025 with Schoen, Daboll and possibly Jones.
If you are of the belief this regime is not good enough, 7-10 is probably just enough to bring everyone back.
I think that's the point.
Sean - again - did you miss the part where this regime made it to the final 4 of the NFC? And then won 6 games with a backup and 3rd string QB?