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Drew Allar Penn state QB

mdthedream : 10/14/2024 6:48 pm
Anyone else like what they see from this kid? He reminds me of Josh Allen. What pick do you see him going at? He is 6-5 235lbs moves really well and throws on the run.
More Kerry Collins  
uconngiant : 10/14/2024 6:52 pm : link
Then Josh Allen. He is not the most mobile but has a cannon for an arm.
Crazy he is  
mdthedream : 10/14/2024 6:56 pm : link
the exact same weight and height. He rolls out and throws missiles.
could be a realistic development guy.  
RAIN : 10/14/2024 6:59 pm : link
Trick with him, what does he have between the ears.
He’s not Josh Allen  
jeff57 : 10/14/2024 6:59 pm : link
Doesn’t have that kind of mobility.
OK  
mdthedream : 10/14/2024 7:01 pm : link
but whats your opinion on him? I see the Giants picking mid draft.
I like him  
dancing blue bear : 10/14/2024 7:05 pm : link
Might need some time to marinade but he has enough mobility good size big arm and plays with some moxie.
Big time arm  
Jay on the Island : 10/14/2024 7:11 pm : link
but if he was drafted he desperately needs a year on the bench. I wouldn't draft him and play him year one.
Big Penn St. fan  
DeVito32 : 10/14/2024 7:23 pm : link
He was pretty good last year and better this year outside of Saturdays game against USC. But there was such a hype around him as a freshman that he hasn't lived up to.

He has all the physical attributes you want in a QB. I'd like to see how he finishes they year. But he's also only 20yrs old. IF he's smart he should stay in school another year.
Million dollar arm...  
bw in dc : 10/14/2024 7:28 pm : link
but a still to-be-determined what kind of price tag we can put on his mind.

In my view, the best thing Allar could do would be to transfer out of Happy Valley and to a program with better coaching/development for QBs.

I love the hiring of Kotelnicki as the OC - see some of the plays he drew up Saturday at USC - but neither he or Franklin or O'Brien have any history of developing QBs for the NFL.

And while Allar may have Allen's size, he is nowhere near the otherworldly athlete Allen is.
RE: OK  
PatersonPlank : 10/14/2024 7:31 pm : link
In comment 16647539 mdthedream said:
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but whats your opinion on him? I see the Giants picking mid draft.


According to Mel KIper projections (yes I know but it is a datapoint), at least 3 of the top 5 QBs should still be there mid-first round. He currently has Ewers, Beck, and Milroe all going last 1st. He has Ward and Sanders going in the "first round" (not late first like the others), so they may be around too
Allar has been streaky this season right?  
PatersonPlank : 10/14/2024 7:32 pm : link
Seems like he's good, then bad, rinse and repeat.
Saying no to JJ and Penix at 6  
Jint Fan in Buc Land : 10/14/2024 7:52 pm : link
to draft someone like Allar the next year would be brutal.

He can make any throw he's just a slow footed slow processor with streaky accuracy. Just sign another vet.
Not a first rounder right now  
Sy'56 : 10/14/2024 8:23 pm : link
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Maybe he has the tools  
gersh : 10/14/2024 8:29 pm : link
But I don’t see franchise QB right now
I agree that to pass on McCarthy and Penix to take Allar would be a head scratcher to me
Daboll is looking for the best prospect he can develop  
gersh : 10/14/2024 8:33 pm : link
But you gotta figure processing speed/seeing the whole field has be a priority after DJ
He STINKS!  
ZogZerg : 10/14/2024 8:49 pm : link
In the game against Illinois, they had the TE taking QB snaps on 3rd down.
He was terrible in that game and Illinois isn't any good.
ZZ  
Bill in TN : 10/14/2024 9:21 pm : link
TE under C and Pribula taking snaps is just part of PSU's array of formations. Has nothing to do with Allar's capabilities. You don't watch much PSU football . . .
RE: He STINKS!  
bw in dc : 10/14/2024 9:36 pm : link
In comment 16647691 ZogZerg said:
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In the game against Illinois, they had the TE taking QB snaps on 3rd down.
He was terrible in that game and Illinois isn't any good.


Tyler Smith, TE for PSU, played QB in high school. He is a great all-around player who they run the wildcat with. He should be up for the Heisman.
RE: RE: He STINKS!  
bw in dc : 10/14/2024 9:36 pm : link
In comment 16647741 bw in dc said:
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In comment 16647691 ZogZerg said:


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In the game against Illinois, they had the TE taking QB snaps on 3rd down.
He was terrible in that game and Illinois isn't any good.



Tyler Smith, TE for PSU, played QB in high school. He is a great all-around player who they run the wildcat with. He should be up for the Heisman.


Sorry...Tyler Warren.
RE: Big Penn St. fan  
SimmsToBavaro : 10/14/2024 9:48 pm : link
In comment 16647565 DeVito32 said:
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He was pretty good last year and better this year outside of Saturdays game against USC. But there was such a hype around him as a freshman that he hasn't lived up to.

He has all the physical attributes you want in a QB. I'd like to see how he finishes they year. But he's also only 20yrs old. IF he's smart he should stay in school another year.


The USC was probably the best game of his career. He faced adversity and didn’t wilt. One pick was not really on him and another was a Hail Mary. He will be in a much better position staying in school another year. I see more Allen than Collins who was a statue. Allar can move.
RE: Not a first rounder right now  
JonC : 10/14/2024 9:50 pm : link
In comment 16647651 Sy'56 said:
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There's no QB so far I'd be looking at early 1st round.
To me  
Giants1986 : 10/14/2024 9:55 pm : link
Nussmeier is the guy
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Banks : 10/14/2024 9:59 pm : link
I have stated my opinion on him many times here as a Penn stater. Nice attributes all around and while he isn't a runner, he has mobility. He just can't put it all together. Last year having such a shitty line didn't help, but this year he's been underwhelming again. I agree with Simms, Saturday was probably the best he's looked even if the Stat sheet doesn't look that way.
RE: To me  
NJBlueTuna : 10/15/2024 12:14 am : link
In comment 16647766 Giants1986 said:
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Nussmeier is the guy


Agree
Tyler Warren  
Pete from Woodstock : 10/15/2024 6:53 am : link
plays like a man amongst boys! He's a beast!
RE: To me  
GoDeep13 : 10/15/2024 7:19 am : link
In comment 16647766 Giants1986 said:
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Nussmeier is the guy
My preferred option as well. Talented, smart, big, decent athlete, son of a QB coach. I'd easily put my chips in that bag.
RE: He STINKS!  
LS : 10/15/2024 9:41 am : link
In comment 16647691 ZogZerg said:
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In the game against Illinois, they had the TE taking QB snaps on 3rd down.
He was terrible in that game and Illinois isn't any good.

You mean 5-1 number 22 ranked Illinois? The TE (first round draft choice Warren -ex QB) didn't throw a pass and ran the ball twice. Allar completed 71% of his passes that game. Maybe you are thinking of a different game.
He fits  
JoeyBigBlue : 10/15/2024 10:02 am : link
What Daboll wants in a QB, big, huge arm, and mobile. He’s super young at just 20 years old so he will need development. I wouldn’t mind getting him and letting him sit behind an experience veteran (not named Daniel Jones… lol)
Allar has tools  
56goat : 10/15/2024 12:44 pm : link
but so far his production hasn't matched his tools. A development project.
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