It is believed that this could be a significant injury. Whenever the foot is involved, the fear is it could be a Lisfranc injury, which is an injury to the bones or ligaments or both in the middle part of the foot.
There is often damage to the cartilage in a Lisfranc joint injury. Surgery is sometimes required and if not, wearing a boot for several weeks, or months, is often the required therapy.
Thomas conferred with the Giants’ medical staff and is also seeking second opinions from outside medical sources. It is believed that one of those options being discussed is surgery.
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
Sources: #Giants star LT Andrew Thomas is currently in Charlotte meeting with noted foot expert Dr. Robert Anderson, and his status for the season is now considered to be up in the air.
Surgery to fix the issue, which is possible, would likely be season-ending.
losing thomas would suck but good organizations figure it out. detroit is a sb contender and they just lost hutchinson. SF has had a bunch of guys down all year. you compete with whoever is healthy.
or you dont and keep hiring/firing people until you figure out how to compete.
Not the least now being the possibility that Jones gets hurt without Thomas protecting him. Few injuries can hurt this team more than losing Thomas for the season.
They may need to bench Jones sooner than even expected to have insurance to avoid a Jones injury.
Well, shit. Season may be over now for real. In these losing seasons, I just have one hope. That is to beat the eagles. This likely means that ain't happening this week
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Giants standout left tackle Andrew Thomas is expected to miss an extended period of time with a foot injury, per sources. He’s still considering other options but there is concern it could be season-ending.
It’s his natural position anyway. I honestly feel half the issue with him is they assumed he could just adapt to RT in the NFL and he hasn’t been able to do that. It’s a totally different position.
is why I'm starting to hate the NFL. We can be lucky and hit a home run with a QB, GM, or head coach but injuries every fucking year across the entire NFL, season ending injuries to superstar players. What a terrible product.
that this injury costs Daboll, and possibly Schoen their jobs.
What? What has an injury to Thomas got to do with Daboll and Schoen?
I think his point is that with Thomas out, the Giants (already 2-4 and can't score TDs without getting 6-7 first downs on a drive) the Giants are likely to finish with 11+ losses which would put the GM and coach on the hot seat in year 3, and having handed out an expensive deal to the QB.
that this injury costs Daboll, and possibly Schoen their jobs.
What? What has an injury to Thomas got to do with Daboll and Schoen?
I think his point is that with Thomas out, the Giants (already 2-4 and can't score TDs without getting 6-7 first downs on a drive) the Giants are likely to finish with 11+ losses which would put the GM and coach on the hot seat in year 3, and having handed out an expensive deal to the QB.
that this injury costs Daboll, and possibly Schoen their jobs.
What? What has an injury to Thomas got to do with Daboll and Schoen?
I think his point is that with Thomas out, the Giants (already 2-4 and can't score TDs without getting 6-7 first downs on a drive) the Giants are likely to finish with 11+ losses which would put the GM and coach on the hot seat in year 3, and having handed out an expensive deal to the QB.
Still doesn't make sense.
With Thomas out, they could lose more games.
If they lose more games and things get worse, they could be fired.
It will be interesting to see how they man up along the front if AT is out. For Ezeudu and Neal, they gotta start performing for a second contract or an option.
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Assuming Thomas misses extended time, the Giants need to move Jermaine Eluemunor to LT. Josh Ezeudu and Evan Neal would be the options at RT. I’d expect Ezeudu to get the first crack at RT (or LT if they keep Eluemunor at RT).
The Giants had all five OL play 100% of the snaps in the first six games. A major shakeup coming.
DJ's play, Thomas/Thibs/Bruns injuries, I think this all buys Schoen and Dabs more time.
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Devastating. It was clear postgame Sunday that Thomas knew something was very wrong. The #Giants largely rationalized last season’s offensive struggles on Thomas’ Week 1 injury and practice setback several weeks later. So that should tell you how this will go
I remember when David Diehl had to go from Guard to LT….
He was a natural Guard, but could play all over the Line. He was a very valuable piece of that line. Ezuedu should be better prepared to go to LT now, but I’m so sure I’d risk that. I think it’s going to be Elumenour to LT and Neal back out at RT. 15 PPG might seem high after this shuffled debacle in the making!
He was a natural Guard, but could play all over the Line. He was a very valuable piece of that line. Ezuedu should be better prepared to go to LT now, but I’m so sure I’d risk that. I think it’s going to be Elumenour to LT and Neal back out at RT. 15 PPG might seem high after this shuffled debacle in the making!
Diehl had played T some, G some and even Center.. Neal needs to play RT..
Bold prediction for the pod: Eric says-considering Thomas' injury-we have no choice but to run it back with Jones in 2025 because it wouldn't be fair to poor Daniel to not have Andrew @ LT. :-)
This is my worry. The single best thing for the Giants would be for Eluemunor to do a good job at LT and either Ezeudu or Neal to step up at RT and Jones to continue doing what he does, which is suck.
Ezeudu was meh to bad at LT last year. Unless Bricillo is really confident he's improved, why give him a crack? Neal had his success as a LT after t er all
isn't getting fired. I suspect he has a free pass this year
due to the qb situation. He wanted a QB in the last draft.
The price was to high for the front office.
He also is playing Jones,,,,,which makes Mara happy.
Schoel is up down but I like the last draft.
The roster is better....held back by....you guessed it.
If this is used as an excuse to bring back Jones next season, I'm out. I'm not even kidding. I'll watch the NFL, but not one second of the Giants. If the Giants are idiotic enough to bring back Jones in '25 as the unquestioned starter/a Lock-DeVito like backups, this organization isn't serious about winning & not one worth watching one second of football.
If this is used as an excuse to bring back Jones next season, I'm out. I'm not even kidding. I'll watch the NFL, but not one second of the Giants. If the Giants are idiotic enough to bring back Jones in '25 as the unquestioned starter/a Lock-DeVito like backups, this organization isn't serious about winning & not one worth watching one second of football.
At some point it becomes insulting to the fans' intelligence. (I mean, it already is, but it just gets worse.)
Bold prediction for the pod: Eric says-considering Thomas' injury-we have no choice but to run it back with Jones in 2025 because it wouldn't be fair to poor Daniel to not have Andrew @ LT. :-)
You joke, but you know just as well as me that we can't rule out another excuse to bring back Jones for a seventh tryout.
I have a feeling Shamrocks, Stroud, et al are heading out to buy champagne right now.
So it's frustrating to see them continue that charade.
I'd play Eluemunor at LT and Neal at RT. Very interested in when they pull the Daniel Jones plug with the injury guarantee in their forefront. They absolutely cannot risk that. Play DeVito, Lock doesn't really solve anything. At least with Cutlets he could serve as a bridge next summer.
We're way past insulting to our intelligence. We're in the 'Fuck what the facts say, that Jones is a bad QB. Fuck the fans, who are sick of losing. Fuck all of that...stop bitching & enjoy your medium Pepsi.'
No doubt. This is all they need to justify bringing Jones back in '25. 'Thomas went down 6 games into the season! It'd be unfair to judge Daniel without him @ LT!'
I seriously can already hear it. The sad thing is Mara probably feels the same.
We're way past insulting to our intelligence. We're in the 'Fuck what the facts say, that Jones is a bad QB. Fuck the fans, who are sick of losing. Fuck all of that...stop bitching & enjoy your medium Pepsi.'
Yeah I know we already got that earlier this year from Giants State Media, but I was hoping that THIS would be the year they finally give up on the charade. I myself am unsure how I could bear it if they keep it up.
cooked already. I think Schoen and Daboll saw what they needed to see with a good line and good WRs...he still is unable to run a high powered offense.
Shit, he could have been medium powered and would have beaten Dallas and Cincy.
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Assuming Thomas misses extended time, the Giants need to move Jermaine Eluemunor to LT. Josh Ezeudu and Evan Neal would be the options at RT. I’d expect Ezeudu to get the first crack at RT (or LT if they keep Eluemunor at RT).
The Giants had all five OL play 100% of the snaps in the first six games. A major shakeup coming.
It’s his natural position anyway. I honestly feel half the issue with him is they assumed he could just adapt to RT in the NFL and he hasn’t been able to do that. It’s a totally different position.
Watch him play LT and look great.
Was thinking this same thing. Possible a better LT than a RT
It would be that Neal bounces back on the left side. Even if his future isn’t here maybe they can flip him but at least they might be able to salvage something out of it.
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Assuming Thomas misses extended time, the Giants need to move Jermaine Eluemunor to LT. Josh Ezeudu and Evan Neal would be the options at RT. I’d expect Ezeudu to get the first crack at RT (or LT if they keep Eluemunor at RT).
The Giants had all five OL play 100% of the snaps in the first six games. A major shakeup coming.
Wait, why? Why would Ezeudu get the first crack?
Because Neal hasn't taken a snap at LT in years. You either play Ezeudu or Elumunor at LT.
If this is used as an excuse to bring back Jones next season, I'm out. I'm not even kidding. I'll watch the NFL, but not one second of the Giants. If the Giants are idiotic enough to bring back Jones in '25 as the unquestioned starter/a Lock-DeVito like backups, this organization isn't serious about winning & not one worth watching one second of football.
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Assuming Thomas misses extended time, the Giants need to move Jermaine Eluemunor to LT. Josh Ezeudu and Evan Neal would be the options at RT. I’d expect Ezeudu to get the first crack at RT (or LT if they keep Eluemunor at RT).
The Giants had all five OL play 100% of the snaps in the first six games. A major shakeup coming.
Wait, why? Why would Ezeudu get the first crack?
Because Neal hasn't taken a snap at LT in years. You either play Ezeudu or Elumunor at LT.
Eric, maybe next week, sure. But before long it would be wise to see what Neal can do there.
It’s his natural position anyway. I honestly feel half the issue with him is they assumed he could just adapt to RT in the NFL and he hasn’t been able to do that. It’s a totally different position.
Watch him play LT and look great.
Was thinking this same thing. Possible a better LT than a RT
He played a year at G, a year at RT and a year at LT in college and the last 2 years exclusively at RT. We can hope he’s a natural LT but he certainly hasn’t played there very much.
Sink or swim time for Evan. I still he'd be best suited @ guard, but here we are.
You try to make as few changes as possible.
Moving Eleumenor doesn't fix anything if Neal still sucks. You're just playing whack-a-mole. Ezeudu likely isn't good either, but the situation is what it is.
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
To be clear, it’s just my belief that Ezeudu is ahead of Neal on the depth chart. Daboll and Bricillo haven’t answered when asked. Neal missed so much time that he was behind Ezeudu when he returned during camp. We’ll find out if Neal made up ground in-season. I’m skeptical
I'm telling you how this is going to go down. The reporters too.
I'd be shocked if they play him at LT. If you really want to mess with his head, I guess that's a plan.
The concern with Neal should be less about his head and more about finding ways to salvage a top 10 draft pick. I’m sure Neal’s attitude would be exactly that, otherwise we drafted the wrong guy.
How does a David Diehl, late round draft pick out of Illinois make a career out of playing 4 positions on the line on a whim as needed.
Enough with this shit. If Neal’s head can’t handle getting ramped up and playing LT over the next 3 weeks then he is truly a bust.
I'm telling you how this is going to go down. The reporters too.
I'd be shocked if they play him at LT. If you really want to mess with his head, I guess that's a plan.
The concern with Neal should be less about his head and more about finding ways to salvage a top 10 draft pick. I’m sure Neal’s attitude would be exactly that, otherwise we drafted the wrong guy.
How does a David Diehl, late round draft pick out of Illinois make a career out of playing 4 positions on the line on a whim as needed.
Enough with this shit. If Neal’s head can’t handle getting ramped up and playing LT over the next 3 weeks then he is truly a bust.
Diehl prepared for the switch.
I'm not saying it is impossible that Neal doesn't play there eventually, but I wouldn't count on it. At least not for a while.
I'm telling you how this is going to go down. The reporters too.
I'd be shocked if they play him at LT. If you really want to mess with his head, I guess that's a plan.
The concern with Neal should be less about his head and more about finding ways to salvage a top 10 draft pick. I’m sure Neal’s attitude would be exactly that, otherwise we drafted the wrong guy.
How does a David Diehl, late round draft pick out of Illinois make a career out of playing 4 positions on the line on a whim as needed.
Enough with this shit. If Neal’s head can’t handle getting ramped up and playing LT over the next 3 weeks then he is truly a bust.
It's pretty obvious at this point that at least part of the issue with neal *is* his head. He has every physical tool needed to have success. He's not the first offensive linemen without dancer's feet.
Andrew Thomas is another guy who has trouble staying on the field
I'm telling you how this is going to go down. The reporters too.
I'd be shocked if they play him at LT. If you really want to mess with his head, I guess that's a plan.
The concern with Neal should be less about his head and more about finding ways to salvage a top 10 draft pick. I’m sure Neal’s attitude would be exactly that, otherwise we drafted the wrong guy.
How does a David Diehl, late round draft pick out of Illinois make a career out of playing 4 positions on the line on a whim as needed.
Enough with this shit. If Neal’s head can’t handle getting ramped up and playing LT over the next 3 weeks then he is truly a bust.
It's pretty obvious at this point that at least part of the issue with neal *is* his head. He has every physical tool needed to have success. He's not the first offensive linemen without dancer's feet.
So then what you’re saying, and I’m not sure if you agree with this or not, is that the Giants spent a top 10 draft pick on a guy to play RT, except to date he hasn’t played RT well at all and he ultimately lost that spot, and now we not only refuse to play him at guard, but we also can’t try him out at the LT spot now vacated by our injured All Pro…because we don’t “think” he can do it? It’s no wonder we suck. Where is the sense of urgency? If Neal doesn’t get back in the field soon it’s all over and the draft pick is flushed.
he is great, but he has had his share of injuries. Shame
Let’s be honest - has he really shown greatness when on the field? No. This team has been so void of any talent that he looked very good, definitely not great. The issue is they have a 24 year old tackle with chronic foot injuries.
I'm not going to play Dr. Internet and draw connections. But it's eerily prescient Thomas admitted he took the money early in part because of his injury history.
If Neal doesn't see the field now, he'll be gone next year,
Ezeudu was meh to bad at LT last year. Unless Bricillo is really confident he's improved, why give him a crack? Neal had his success as a LT after t er all
There is a possibility that Neal may be more comfortable at LT. I think it would be a good idea to give him reps in practice if I were Daboll.
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
To be clear, it’s just my belief that Ezeudu is ahead of Neal on the depth chart. Daboll and Bricillo haven’t answered when asked. Neal missed so much time that he was behind Ezeudu when he returned during camp. We’ll find out if Neal made up ground in-season. I’m skeptical
Given his draft status, that's disheartening to read. I feel like Bricillo could make something of him at Guard if given an opportunity. Probably see it on his next team.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Andrew Thomas is another guy who has trouble staying on the field
he is great, but he has had his share of injuries. Shame
Let’s be honest - has he really shown greatness when on the field? No.
Don't choose to be stupid.
Thomas is hurt a lot and it effects his play - I'm not about to call him great.
I'd call him really good when healthy.
Of course he’s not great. Only idiots would think so, and this forum is full of idiots. He’s good - end of story. The problem is the garbage behind him. They are so pitiful, which makes him look “great.”
has been having foot problems since 2022.
This one just puts the issue out front, even if not related to previous problems.
I read either on BBI or another Giants site, someone suggested, even before AT injury:
The ‘25 draft:
QB in the first round, OT in the second.
that this injury costs Daboll, and possibly Schoen their jobs.
lol what? how tf do you come up with this premonition lol
This team was struggling to win with AT. I know you don't believe 3 years is a long enough time to make a decision, but the NFL doesn't work that way. If the wins don't materialize over the last 11 games people are getting fired
RE: Andrew Thomas is another guy who has trouble staying on the field
the season starts, there is no time for experimenting. The starters get the reps. The back-ups are on the scout team. You guys who say "play Neal at guard" or "play Neal at left tackle" need to understand this point.
that this injury costs Daboll, and possibly Schoen their jobs.
lol what? how tf do you come up with this premonition lol
This team was struggling to win with AT. I know you don't believe 3 years is a long enough time to make a decision, but the NFL doesn't work that way. If the wins don't materialize over the last 11 games people are getting fired
I doubt it. Mara knows what blowing up the org again does.
But, given DJs play, and ATs injury under the guise of protecting DJ, throw Lock / Cutlets out there as sacrificial lambs.
No one really cares if they are hurt, it protects from the DJ injury clause kicking in, they end up in the top 3-5 draft picks.
That’s a bunch of winning, based on some key injuries.
Firing the last 3 bozos was the right answer. Mara has exhibited no hesitation in firing under performing coaches. And none of those firings have been a mistake.
if he can't play LT? Yeah, he hasn't been there in a game, but he should have been prepped for both sides this season.
Or is Neal on "extended scholarship" now??
He's not the swing tackle. We have two back-up tackles. From the moment the season started, Ezeudu has been listed as the back-up LT.
Eric, you HAVE to question a coaching staff that has Ezeudu as the first choice backup at either tackle spot. It's obvious to anyone watching his play that he can't handle either spot. DJ won't survive if he's the LT.
If Neal is healthy, he should be in consideration for LT. He's played the position before (in College). If a First Round Tackle is behind THREE people at his position (the starter and two tackles) after three years, why are the Giants carrying him??
There is often damage to the cartilage in a Lisfranc joint injury. Surgery is sometimes required and if not, wearing a boot for several weeks, or months, is often the required therapy.
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Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
Sources: #Giants star LT Andrew Thomas is currently in Charlotte meeting with noted foot expert Dr. Robert Anderson, and his status for the season is now considered to be up in the air.
Surgery to fix the issue, which is possible, would likely be season-ending.
or you dont and keep hiring/firing people until you figure out how to compete.
They may need to bench Jones sooner than even expected to have insurance to avoid a Jones injury.
This team can’t catch a damn break.
elumeanor has been good, leave him where he is and shift the help to the left side.
neal has sucked at RT may as well see if he can not suck at LT. some guys historically have been better at LT than RT.
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Giants standout left tackle Andrew Thomas is expected to miss an extended period of time with a foot injury, per sources. He’s still considering other options but there is concern it could be season-ending.
Watch him play LT and look great.
Regarding Jones, this should get him out of the lineup quicker. Much more likely to have to enact that injury clause with Thomas out.
We can't have nice things
It’s their fault he got hurt. I look at it as an valid excuse.
What? What has an injury to Thomas got to do with Daboll and Schoen?
It very well might be the final straw. If they put Ezeudu in at left tackle and get another QB injured they deserve their pink slips.
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that this injury costs Daboll, and possibly Schoen their jobs.
What? What has an injury to Thomas got to do with Daboll and Schoen?
I think his point is that with Thomas out, the Giants (already 2-4 and can't score TDs without getting 6-7 first downs on a drive) the Giants are likely to finish with 11+ losses which would put the GM and coach on the hot seat in year 3, and having handed out an expensive deal to the QB.
No need to tank
Just make sure your core players are well taken care of
Giants offense was already struggling and this won't help. Giants need to add a OL with a premium pick next draft and maybe two.
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that this injury costs Daboll, and possibly Schoen their jobs.
What? What has an injury to Thomas got to do with Daboll and Schoen?
I think his point is that with Thomas out, the Giants (already 2-4 and can't score TDs without getting 6-7 first downs on a drive) the Giants are likely to finish with 11+ losses which would put the GM and coach on the hot seat in year 3, and having handed out an expensive deal to the QB.
Still doesn't make sense.
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that this injury costs Daboll, and possibly Schoen their jobs.
What? What has an injury to Thomas got to do with Daboll and Schoen?
I think his point is that with Thomas out, the Giants (already 2-4 and can't score TDs without getting 6-7 first downs on a drive) the Giants are likely to finish with 11+ losses which would put the GM and coach on the hot seat in year 3, and having handed out an expensive deal to the QB.
Still doesn't make sense.
With Thomas out, they could lose more games.
If they lose more games and things get worse, they could be fired.
This is not advanced math.
I guess Neal gets another crack at RT? Or maybe give Runyon a shot at RT?
@DDuggan21
Assuming Thomas misses extended time, the Giants need to move Jermaine Eluemunor to LT. Josh Ezeudu and Evan Neal would be the options at RT. I’d expect Ezeudu to get the first crack at RT (or LT if they keep Eluemunor at RT).
The Giants had all five OL play 100% of the snaps in the first six games. A major shakeup coming.
As bad as he was last year, I think their only option is to play Ezeudu at LT and give him help, probably a TE.
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He hasnt had a practice snap there in 3 years
The MRI was already taken.
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Devastating. It was clear postgame Sunday that Thomas knew something was very wrong. The #Giants largely rationalized last season’s offensive struggles on Thomas’ Week 1 injury and practice setback several weeks later. So that should tell you how this will go
Agreed.
What a fucking losers mindset.
There is a really good chance he's starting on Sunday.
Yep and the momentum for year 7 is building.
Diehl had played T some, G some and even Center.. Neal needs to play RT..
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There is a really good chance he's starting on Sunday.
Better glue a TE to his side for the whole game to help block.
I can honestly see this happening.
Listen to the podcast tonight.
This is my worry. The single best thing for the Giants would be for Eluemunor to do a good job at LT and either Ezeudu or Neal to step up at RT and Jones to continue doing what he does, which is suck.
They are going nowhere above mediocre at best. Sell now.
due to the qb situation. He wanted a QB in the last draft.
The price was to high for the front office.
He also is playing Jones,,,,,which makes Mara happy.
Schoel is up down but I like the last draft.
The roster is better....held back by....you guessed it.
Both of them need to be ready when called upon. Ezeudu was the left tackle in pre season, no?
At some point it becomes insulting to the fans' intelligence. (I mean, it already is, but it just gets worse.)
You joke, but you know just as well as me that we can't rule out another excuse to bring back Jones for a seventh tryout.
I have a feeling Shamrocks, Stroud, et al are heading out to buy champagne right now.
I'd play Eluemunor at LT and Neal at RT. Very interested in when they pull the Daniel Jones plug with the injury guarantee in their forefront. They absolutely cannot risk that. Play DeVito, Lock doesn't really solve anything. At least with Cutlets he could serve as a bridge next summer.
I seriously can already hear it. The sad thing is Mara probably feels the same.
Yeah I know we already got that earlier this year from Giants State Media, but I was hoping that THIS would be the year they finally give up on the charade. I myself am unsure how I could bear it if they keep it up.
Shit, he could have been medium powered and would have beaten Dallas and Cincy.
At least we'll have the rest of the season to see what Evan Neal is worth and if we can rely on him moving forward.
@DDuggan21
Assuming Thomas misses extended time, the Giants need to move Jermaine Eluemunor to LT. Josh Ezeudu and Evan Neal would be the options at RT. I’d expect Ezeudu to get the first crack at RT (or LT if they keep Eluemunor at RT).
The Giants had all five OL play 100% of the snaps in the first six games. A major shakeup coming.
Wait, why? Why would Ezeudu get the first crack?
Watch him play LT and look great.
At least he’s played there and played well, unlike Ezeudu before last year when he got Jonese head almost taken off by Van Ginkle.
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Assuming Thomas misses extended time, the Giants need to move Jermaine Eluemunor to LT. Josh Ezeudu and Evan Neal would be the options at RT. I’d expect Ezeudu to get the first crack at RT (or LT if they keep Eluemunor at RT).
The Giants had all five OL play 100% of the snaps in the first six games. A major shakeup coming.
Wait, why? Why would Ezeudu get the first crack?
Because Neal hasn't taken a snap at LT in years. You either play Ezeudu or Elumunor at LT.
You’re a year late buddy.
Am I missing something?
Sink or swim time for Evan. I still he'd be best suited @ guard, but here we are.
This team wasn't going anywhere with or without Andrew Thomas.
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Dan Duggan
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Assuming Thomas misses extended time, the Giants need to move Jermaine Eluemunor to LT. Josh Ezeudu and Evan Neal would be the options at RT. I’d expect Ezeudu to get the first crack at RT (or LT if they keep Eluemunor at RT).
The Giants had all five OL play 100% of the snaps in the first six games. A major shakeup coming.
Wait, why? Why would Ezeudu get the first crack?
Because Neal hasn't taken a snap at LT in years. You either play Ezeudu or Elumunor at LT.
Eric, maybe next week, sure. But before long it would be wise to see what Neal can do there.
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It’s his natural position anyway. I honestly feel half the issue with him is they assumed he could just adapt to RT in the NFL and he hasn’t been able to do that. It’s a totally different position.
Watch him play LT and look great.
Was thinking this same thing. Possible a better LT than a RT
Am I missing something?
Sink or swim time for Evan. I still he'd be best suited @ guard, but here we are.
You try to make as few changes as possible.
Moving Eleumenor doesn't fix anything if Neal still sucks. You're just playing whack-a-mole. Ezeudu likely isn't good either, but the situation is what it is.
I'd be shocked if they play him at LT. If you really want to mess with his head, I guess that's a plan.
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
To be clear, it’s just my belief that Ezeudu is ahead of Neal on the depth chart. Daboll and Bricillo haven’t answered when asked. Neal missed so much time that he was behind Ezeudu when he returned during camp. We’ll find out if Neal made up ground in-season. I’m skeptical
I'd be shocked if they play him at LT. If you really want to mess with his head, I guess that's a plan.
The concern with Neal should be less about his head and more about finding ways to salvage a top 10 draft pick. I’m sure Neal’s attitude would be exactly that, otherwise we drafted the wrong guy.
How does a David Diehl, late round draft pick out of Illinois make a career out of playing 4 positions on the line on a whim as needed.
Enough with this shit. If Neal’s head can’t handle getting ramped up and playing LT over the next 3 weeks then he is truly a bust.
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I'm telling you how this is going to go down. The reporters too.
I'd be shocked if they play him at LT. If you really want to mess with his head, I guess that's a plan.
The concern with Neal should be less about his head and more about finding ways to salvage a top 10 draft pick. I’m sure Neal’s attitude would be exactly that, otherwise we drafted the wrong guy.
How does a David Diehl, late round draft pick out of Illinois make a career out of playing 4 positions on the line on a whim as needed.
Enough with this shit. If Neal’s head can’t handle getting ramped up and playing LT over the next 3 weeks then he is truly a bust.
Diehl prepared for the switch.
I'm not saying it is impossible that Neal doesn't play there eventually, but I wouldn't count on it. At least not for a while.
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I'm telling you how this is going to go down. The reporters too.
I'd be shocked if they play him at LT. If you really want to mess with his head, I guess that's a plan.
The concern with Neal should be less about his head and more about finding ways to salvage a top 10 draft pick. I’m sure Neal’s attitude would be exactly that, otherwise we drafted the wrong guy.
How does a David Diehl, late round draft pick out of Illinois make a career out of playing 4 positions on the line on a whim as needed.
Enough with this shit. If Neal’s head can’t handle getting ramped up and playing LT over the next 3 weeks then he is truly a bust.
It's pretty obvious at this point that at least part of the issue with neal *is* his head. He has every physical tool needed to have success. He's not the first offensive linemen without dancer's feet.
Fans need to find a hacker who can put this onto the video screens.
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In comment 16648849 Eric from BBI said:
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I'm telling you how this is going to go down. The reporters too.
I'd be shocked if they play him at LT. If you really want to mess with his head, I guess that's a plan.
The concern with Neal should be less about his head and more about finding ways to salvage a top 10 draft pick. I’m sure Neal’s attitude would be exactly that, otherwise we drafted the wrong guy.
How does a David Diehl, late round draft pick out of Illinois make a career out of playing 4 positions on the line on a whim as needed.
Enough with this shit. If Neal’s head can’t handle getting ramped up and playing LT over the next 3 weeks then he is truly a bust.
It's pretty obvious at this point that at least part of the issue with neal *is* his head. He has every physical tool needed to have success. He's not the first offensive linemen without dancer's feet.
So then what you’re saying, and I’m not sure if you agree with this or not, is that the Giants spent a top 10 draft pick on a guy to play RT, except to date he hasn’t played RT well at all and he ultimately lost that spot, and now we not only refuse to play him at guard, but we also can’t try him out at the LT spot now vacated by our injured All Pro…because we don’t “think” he can do it? It’s no wonder we suck. Where is the sense of urgency? If Neal doesn’t get back in the field soon it’s all over and the draft pick is flushed.
Let’s be honest - has he really shown greatness when on the field? No. This team has been so void of any talent that he looked very good, definitely not great. The issue is they have a 24 year old tackle with chronic foot injuries.
I know JE has struggled so far, but he's young. If he's fully healthy, I think he could surprise at LT.
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he is great, but he has had his share of injuries. Shame
Let’s be honest - has he really shown greatness when on the field? No.
Don't choose to be stupid.
There is a possibility that Neal may be more comfortable at LT. I think it would be a good idea to give him reps in practice if I were Daboll.
Or is Neal on "extended scholarship" now??
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he is great, but he has had his share of injuries. Shame
Let’s be honest - has he really shown greatness when on the field? No.
Don't choose to be stupid.
Thomas is hurt a lot and it effects his play - I'm not about to call him great.
I'd call him really good when healthy.
Dan Duggan
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To be clear, it’s just my belief that Ezeudu is ahead of Neal on the depth chart. Daboll and Bricillo haven’t answered when asked. Neal missed so much time that he was behind Ezeudu when he returned during camp. We’ll find out if Neal made up ground in-season. I’m skeptical
Given his draft status, that's disheartening to read. I feel like Bricillo could make something of him at Guard if given an opportunity. Probably see it on his next team.
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he is great, but he has had his share of injuries. Shame
Let’s be honest - has he really shown greatness when on the field? No.
Don't choose to be stupid.
Thomas is hurt a lot and it effects his play - I'm not about to call him great.
I'd call him really good when healthy.
Of course he’s not great. Only idiots would think so, and this forum is full of idiots. He’s good - end of story. The problem is the garbage behind him. They are so pitiful, which makes him look “great.”
This one just puts the issue out front, even if not related to previous problems.
I read either on BBI or another Giants site, someone suggested, even before AT injury:
The ‘25 draft:
QB in the first round, OT in the second.
lol what? how tf do you come up with this premonition lol
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that this injury costs Daboll, and possibly Schoen their jobs.
lol what? how tf do you come up with this premonition lol
This team was struggling to win with AT. I know you don't believe 3 years is a long enough time to make a decision, but the NFL doesn't work that way. If the wins don't materialize over the last 11 games people are getting fired
Most OT's are always hurt and miss time that's because.......(spoiler alert) a very physical position to play and you never let anything heal.
Or is Neal on "extended scholarship" now??
He's not the swing tackle. We have two back-up tackles. From the moment the season started, Ezeudu has been listed as the back-up LT.
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that this injury costs Daboll, and possibly Schoen their jobs.
lol what? how tf do you come up with this premonition lol
This team was struggling to win with AT. I know you don't believe 3 years is a long enough time to make a decision, but the NFL doesn't work that way. If the wins don't materialize over the last 11 games people are getting fired
I doubt it. Mara knows what blowing up the org again does.
Fans don't get it but he does.
No one really cares if they are hurt, it protects from the DJ injury clause kicking in, they end up in the top 3-5 draft picks.
That’s a bunch of winning, based on some key injuries.
Because that has helped immensely. SMDH
Neal if he stays healthy will get starts eventually, LT/RT/RG wherever they want.
no way ezedu will perform and stay healthy over 11 more games. roten will be benched.
theres plenty of opportunity for many players like neal/ezedeu and even Kubas imo to get snaps soon.
this is where we will see what carmen B is made up....
schoen needs to get active in the deadline pick up some 5ths and 7ths for a guy like slayton.
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if he can't play LT? Yeah, he hasn't been there in a game, but he should have been prepped for both sides this season.
Or is Neal on "extended scholarship" now??
He's not the swing tackle. We have two back-up tackles. From the moment the season started, Ezeudu has been listed as the back-up LT.
Eric, you HAVE to question a coaching staff that has Ezeudu as the first choice backup at either tackle spot. It's obvious to anyone watching his play that he can't handle either spot. DJ won't survive if he's the LT.
If Neal is healthy, he should be in consideration for LT. He's played the position before (in College). If a First Round Tackle is behind THREE people at his position (the starter and two tackles) after three years, why are the Giants carrying him??