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nygiants16 : 10/18/2024 8:37 am
Expectation is normal regular season rotation, which we havnt seen yet..

Does Thibs go with Payne, Deuce, Precious and Sims with Bridges? or does Thibs maybe go with 2 starters on the court at all times?

I dont trust Sims at all so i would lean Bridges and Kat with the second unit
I'll be interested to see how they fill  
TheMick7 : 10/18/2024 8:39 am : link
Shamet's veteran roster spot. I doubt they carry him with his injury, so is it TJ Warren or do they bring back Marcus Morris?
Thank you for starting a new thread.  
Optimus-NY : 10/18/2024 8:51 am : link
The previous one was getting buried. I hope they sign Morris to take Shamet's spot and then hopefully find a way to sign Shamet again in February after the February 6th trade deadline. They've gotta create some cap space between now and then of course though. Hopefully these guys stay healthy tonight.
Hukporti  
Mark from Jersey : 10/18/2024 9:02 am : link
has looked good.
RE: Hukporti  
Optimus-NY : 10/18/2024 9:14 am : link
In comment 16650941 Mark from Jersey said:
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has looked good.


Indeed. They're almost certainly going to convert his two-way deal into a standard contract before the regular season starts in a few days in Boston.
His dunks have been nasty  
Mark from Jersey : 10/18/2024 9:20 am : link
playing the pick and roll well. Physical when playing for a rebound from what I have seen.

Surprised a guy like him slipped to 58. 4 years of pro ball exp. in Germany for a guy with his size and athleticism? Don't follow hoops like I used to but looks like Knicks maybe got another 2nd round steal.
I said this in the other thread  
nygiants16 : 10/18/2024 9:36 am : link
but Hukporti and Kolek could be very important to the future of this team, maybe not as much this yesr but they could possibly be the depth of the future for this team..

They also could represent new assets added to the cupboard..

They also coild make it easier to send out Mitch
I don't understand why we would trade Mitch.  
robbieballs2003 : 10/18/2024 9:45 am : link
What's the point?
RE: I don't understand why we would trade Mitch.  
nygiants16 : 10/18/2024 9:50 am : link
In comment 16650969 robbieballs2003 said:
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What's the point?


For a wing making around 12 million, save a couple of million and you add deoth to the wing position
We need a Back up center and Wing.  
larryflower37 : 10/18/2024 10:02 am : link
Just some names-
Marcus Morris
Danilo Gallinari
Robin Lopez
JaVale McGee
Reggie Bullock
Justin Holiday
Ryan Arcidiacono(I kid)

Not sure what they have left in the tank but could be back of the bench Vets.
RE: I said this in the other thread  
Optimus-NY : 10/18/2024 10:10 am : link
In comment 16650958 nygiants16 said:
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but Hukporti and Kolek could be very important to the future of this team, maybe not as much this yesr but they could possibly be the depth of the future for this team..

They also could represent new assets added to the cupboard..

They also coild make it easier to send out Mitch


+1 Absolutely

Glad you pointed this out again here. It is indeed vital. Mitch can be the way this team creates cap space. Hopefully Mitch heals up enough in January for the NYK to deal him off. Washington would be the ideal trading partners. 1 for 1 for Jonas Valančiūnas. Center for Center. Give them back their protected first rounder plus a second round pick. Knicks would created almost an extra 4.4 million under the second apron for them to work with. They're projected to be something like 330K under the second apron. They're barely scraping by, which is why they can't sign a 15th guy to their full time roster.
Salary Cap  
DCOrange : 10/18/2024 10:15 am : link
You may need a subscription - which I highly recommend as The Athletic is awesome with all NY teams - to read this. Great article detailing how complex the cap is and how great the Knicks 'cap guy' is as it is much more than just a guys salary. For example, talks about how they got Dadiet to agree to lower terms in advance of trading for KAT.

"Dadiet became the first first-rounder to sign for 80 percent of the rookie scale since 2019. If Dadiet had signed a typical first-round contract, then the Knicks would not have Karl-Anthony Towns today — or, at least, they could not have acquired Towns the way they did."
Link - ( New Window )
RE: Salary Cap  
nygiants16 : 10/18/2024 10:40 am : link
In comment 16651003 DCOrange said:
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You may need a subscription - which I highly recommend as The Athletic is awesome with all NY teams - to read this. Great article detailing how complex the cap is and how great the Knicks 'cap guy' is as it is much more than just a guys salary. For example, talks about how they got Dadiet to agree to lower terms in advance of trading for KAT.

"Dadiet became the first first-rounder to sign for 80 percent of the rookie scale since 2019. If Dadiet had signed a typical first-round contract, then the Knicks would not have Karl-Anthony Towns today — or, at least, they could not have acquired Towns the way they did." Link - ( New Window )


Just shows that Randle was never going to be on this team opening night
RE: RE: Salary Cap  
Optimus-NY : 10/18/2024 10:49 am : link
In comment 16651032 nygiants16 said:
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You may need a subscription - which I highly recommend as The Athletic is awesome with all NY teams - to read this. Great article detailing how complex the cap is and how great the Knicks 'cap guy' is as it is much more than just a guys salary. For example, talks about how they got Dadiet to agree to lower terms in advance of trading for KAT.

"Dadiet became the first first-rounder to sign for 80 percent of the rookie scale since 2019. If Dadiet had signed a typical first-round contract, then the Knicks would not have Karl-Anthony Towns today — or, at least, they could not have acquired Towns the way they did." Link - ( New Window )



Just shows that Randle was never going to be on this team opening night


The tea leaves aligned.
RE: RE: Salary Cap  
Jon In NYC : 10/18/2024 11:17 am : link
In comment 16651032 nygiants16 said:
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You may need a subscription - which I highly recommend as The Athletic is awesome with all NY teams - to read this. Great article detailing how complex the cap is and how great the Knicks 'cap guy' is as it is much more than just a guys salary. For example, talks about how they got Dadiet to agree to lower terms in advance of trading for KAT.

"Dadiet became the first first-rounder to sign for 80 percent of the rookie scale since 2019. If Dadiet had signed a typical first-round contract, then the Knicks would not have Karl-Anthony Towns today — or, at least, they could not have acquired Towns the way they did." Link - ( New Window )



Just shows that Randle was never going to be on this team opening night


How did you get to that conclusion. I’m not saying you’re wrong but I still felt they were going to roll with him if they couldn’t make something better happen (they did)
RE: RE: RE: Salary Cap  
nygiants16 : 10/18/2024 11:24 am : link
In comment 16651078 Jon In NYC said:
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You may need a subscription - which I highly recommend as The Athletic is awesome with all NY teams - to read this. Great article detailing how complex the cap is and how great the Knicks 'cap guy' is as it is much more than just a guys salary. For example, talks about how they got Dadiet to agree to lower terms in advance of trading for KAT.

"Dadiet became the first first-rounder to sign for 80 percent of the rookie scale since 2019. If Dadiet had signed a typical first-round contract, then the Knicks would not have Karl-Anthony Towns today — or, at least, they could not have acquired Towns the way they did." Link - ( New Window )



Just shows that Randle was never going to be on this team opening night



How did you get to that conclusion. I’m not saying you’re wrong but I still felt they were going to roll with him if they couldn’t make something better happen (they did)


First the constant contact with KAT..

Second the discount Brunson gave them, if they were sticking with Randle really no reason for him to take the discount..

3rd them calling agents telling them theybwere only going to give 80% of rookie scale..

If they were sticking with randle they wouodnt have needed to pinch pennies like they did, if they give Dadiet a normal rookie scale, KAT trad eor any trade for a big salary player wasnt happening..

Also the KaT trade needed to be done before the season
Trading Mitch now seems like doing so at the absolute lowest value  
steve in ky : 10/18/2024 11:51 am : link
At this point keep him and he’s a terrific backup, and when he’s on one of his good stretches then move him for more
Jeremy Cohen from Knicks Film School talked about the cap situation.  
Optimus-NY : 10/18/2024 11:52 am : link
CP from KnicksFanTV talked about the bread crumb trail leading up to KAT too before as well. This should not have been a shocker to anyone. The Randle contract situation, his injury, Mitch's injury, and Hartenstein's departure in Free Agency all served to bring this to a close this offseason. Don't forget how close Leon Rose has always been to KAT as well. It was now or never with KAT. This wasn't likely to happen during the regular season. Well played by the Brock Aller and his team.
RE: Trading Mitch now seems like doing so at the absolute lowest value  
Optimus-NY : 10/18/2024 11:53 am : link
In comment 16651129 steve in ky said:
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At this point keep him and he’s a terrific backup, and when he’s on one of his good stretches then move him for more


I think they'll revisit Mitch around the February 6th trade deadline. He should be healthy and playing by then. I highly doubt they're done.
Please forgive me if this is a stupid question  
Dr. D : 10/18/2024 11:55 am : link
I have some thoughts, but not sure - what was the incentive for Dadiet signing for 80 percent of the rookie scale?
RE: Please forgive me if this is a stupid question  
nygiants16 : 10/18/2024 11:58 am : link
In comment 16651138 Dr. D said:
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I have some thoughts, but not sure - what was the incentive for Dadiet signing for 80 percent of the rookie scale?


He got drafted in the first round and a guranteed contract
RE: RE: Please forgive me if this is a stupid question  
Dr. D : 10/18/2024 12:01 pm : link
In comment 16651144 nygiants16 said:
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I have some thoughts, but not sure - what was the incentive for Dadiet signing for 80 percent of the rookie scale?



He got drafted in the first round and a guranteed contract

So he might've otherwise not been drafted in the first rd, so he wouldn't have gotten a guaranteed contract. Makes sense. Thanks.
Been some discussion of Mitch  
ajr2456 : 10/18/2024 12:18 pm : link
For Herb jones
RE: Been some discussion of Mitch  
Anakim : 10/18/2024 12:23 pm : link
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For Herb jones


REALLY? Interesting. Straight up? He's an excellent defender.
New Orleans is worried about  
ajr2456 : 10/18/2024 12:25 pm : link
Bringing Mitch home
RE: New Orleans is worried about  
Anakim : 10/18/2024 12:26 pm : link
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Bringing Mitch home


Why worried? Wouldn't that be a good thing for him and for the team?
RE: RE: I don't understand why we would trade Mitch.  
robbieballs2003 : 10/18/2024 12:28 pm : link
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What's the point?



For a wing making around 12 million, save a couple of million and you add deoth to the wing position


Robbing Peter to pay Paul. How many wings do we need?
Herb’s three point percentage  
bceagle05 : 10/18/2024 12:33 pm : link
jumped from 33% to 41% last year too.
RE: RE: RE: I don't understand why we would trade Mitch.  
ajr2456 : 10/18/2024 12:39 pm : link
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What's the point?



For a wing making around 12 million, save a couple of million and you add deoth to the wing position



Robbing Peter to pay Paul. How many wings do we need?


They have enough bigs in KAT, Precious, Ariel, Sims
RE: RE: RE: RE: I don't understand why we would trade Mitch.  
Anakim : 10/18/2024 12:44 pm : link
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What's the point?



For a wing making around 12 million, save a couple of million and you add deoth to the wing position



Robbing Peter to pay Paul. How many wings do we need?



They have enough bigs in KAT, Precious, Ariel, Sims


Quantity-wise, but quality-wise? Not really.
Larry Nance Jr is a guy I covet.  
Optimus-NY : 10/18/2024 12:45 pm : link
Fred Katz brought his name up a few months ago as someone he liked for the NYK.
Precious and Ariel  
ajr2456 : 10/18/2024 12:47 pm : link
Are quality.

There’s only so many big minutes to go around when you’re not going to play much of traditional lineups in regards to the 4 position
Herb  
Jon In NYC : 10/18/2024 1:29 pm : link
Is great. Would give a lot more insurance for an OG injury. Of now it’s basically 40 minutes of Precious and/or Josh Hart at the 4
KAT is going to play 35 minutes a night  
nygiants16 : 10/18/2024 1:33 pm : link
that means roughly 13 minutes a night for the backup center position, Precious and Hukporti can eat those minutes just fine..

By the time Mitch returns if the starting 5 is rolling, Mitch is going to play about 15 minutes a night if thaylt and him and Precious really dont work togrther..

A Backup 3-4 wing that can shoot would be perfect off the bench next to Precious..

I really dont want to see Sims at all..
RE: KAT is going to play 35 minutes a night  
Larry in Pencilvania : 10/18/2024 2:56 pm : link
In comment 16651246 nygiants16 said:
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that means roughly 13 minutes a night for the backup center position, Precious and Hukporti can eat those minutes just fine..

By the time Mitch returns if the starting 5 is rolling, Mitch is going to play about 15 minutes a night if thaylt and him and Precious really dont work togrther..

A Backup 3-4 wing that can shoot would be perfect off the bench next to Precious..

I really dont want to see Sims at all..


One thing not mentioned above in the trail of breadcrumbs was all the insane moves on draft night. Getting out of 24 and working the second round was important. As was the lack of an extension for Julius. They were pushing Randle/ Mitch all summer on the Wolves.

Hukporti is interesting as he can gain NBA experience while Mitch is out. Then make that decision on trading Mitch. The other interesting possibility is Precious with
His $6 mil one year deal. Is he filler with Mitch for a bigger fish or important depth piece?
RE: RE: RE: RE: I don't understand why we would trade Mitch.  
robbieballs2003 : 10/18/2024 3:29 pm : link
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What's the point?



For a wing making around 12 million, save a couple of million and you add deoth to the wing position



Robbing Peter to pay Paul. How many wings do we need?



They have enough bigs in KAT, Precious, Ariel, Sims


When KAT misses games, you are okay with those behind him?
I don't get the logic.  
robbieballs2003 : 10/18/2024 3:31 pm : link
Before the KAT trade: We need another C. We cannot rely on Mitch as he is injury prone.

After the KAT trade: We have enough C. We need to trade Mitch.

KAT misses a ton of games every year.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I don't understand why we would trade Mitch.  
ajr2456 : 10/18/2024 3:48 pm : link
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What's the point?



For a wing making around 12 million, save a couple of million and you add deoth to the wing position



Robbing Peter to pay Paul. How many wings do we need?



They have enough bigs in KAT, Precious, Ariel, Sims



When KAT misses games, you are okay with those behind him?


Yes.
RE: I don't get the logic.  
ajr2456 : 10/18/2024 3:48 pm : link
In comment 16651365 robbieballs2003 said:
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Before the KAT trade: We need another C. We cannot rely on Mitch as he is injury prone.

After the KAT trade: We have enough C. We need to trade Mitch.

KAT misses a ton of games every year.


We needed another C because Mitch was hurt.
Games played he last years  
robbieballs2003 : 10/18/2024 3:50 pm : link
Mitch:
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31
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59
31

KAT:
35
50
74
29
62

Robinson's total: 254
KAT's total: 250

Again, if we weren't happy with Robinson as our C due to injuries, how can we be okay with KAT and trading Mitch?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I don't understand why we would trade Mitch.  
robbieballs2003 : 10/18/2024 3:51 pm : link
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What's the point?



For a wing making around 12 million, save a couple of million and you add deoth to the wing position



Robbing Peter to pay Paul. How many wings do we need?



They have enough bigs in KAT, Precious, Ariel, Sims



When KAT misses games, you are okay with those behind him?



Yes.


This is ridiculous
RE: Games played he last years  
nygiants16 : 10/18/2024 3:56 pm : link
In comment 16651373 robbieballs2003 said:
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Mitch:
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KAT:
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Robinson's total: 254
KAT's total: 250

Again, if we weren't happy with Robinson as our C due to injuries, how can we be okay with KAT and trading Mitch?


We werent happy with Mitch because he is not gojng to be able to play until January, maybe..

If Kat misses games, Preciius can start, he has started and played pretty damn well..

You then would have Hukporti and posaibly Sims..

Um  
Kmed6000 : 10/18/2024 4:08 pm : link
maybe because Mitch is CURRENTLY injured and at best due back in Jan?
RE: Games played he last years  
Jon In NYC : 10/18/2024 4:15 pm : link
In comment 16651373 robbieballs2003 said:
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Mitch:
61
31
72
59
31

KAT:
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50
74
29
62

Robinson's total: 254
KAT's total: 250

Again, if we weren't happy with Robinson as our C due to injuries, how can we be okay with KAT and trading Mitch?


There does seem to be a prevailing thought that KAT’s injuries are more flukey and Mitches are more chronic but who knows
RE: RE: Games played he last years  
robbieballs2003 : 10/18/2024 4:16 pm : link
In comment 16651376 nygiants16 said:
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Mitch:
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KAT:
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50
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Robinson's total: 254
KAT's total: 250

Again, if we weren't happy with Robinson as our C due to injuries, how can we be okay with KAT and trading Mitch?



We werent happy with Mitch because he is not gojng to be able to play until January, maybe..

If Kat misses games, Preciius can start, he has started and played pretty damn well..

You then would have Hukporti and posaibly Sims..


All you are doing is typing names. You say all the time how much Sims sucks. I like Precious a lot but let's be realistic. He is not a full time C. He looked like a midget next to Embiid. He is great in moments here and there. Imo, he's way more of a 4. We all hope Humporti works out. But if KAT goes down at the end of the season, our whole season is ruined. None of the guys you mentioned are good enough to go up against Philly or Boston. With Mitch, we have a fighting chance with the new additions. This isn't about the regular season. This is about winning a championship and the playoffs.
RE: Um  
robbieballs2003 : 10/18/2024 4:17 pm : link
In comment 16651380 Kmed6000 said:
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maybe because Mitch is CURRENTLY injured and at best due back in Jan?


It's the NBA. More than half the teams make the playoffs. This isn't about the regular season. This is about the playoffs.
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nygiants16 : 10/18/2024 4:22 pm : link
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Mitch:
61
31
72
59
31

KAT:
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50
74
29
62

Robinson's total: 254
KAT's total: 250

Again, if we weren't happy with Robinson as our C due to injuries, how can we be okay with KAT and trading Mitch?



We werent happy with Mitch because he is not gojng to be able to play until January, maybe..

If Kat misses games, Preciius can start, he has started and played pretty damn well..

You then would have Hukporti and posaibly Sims..




All you are doing is typing names. You say all the time how much Sims sucks. I like Precious a lot but let's be realistic. He is not a full time C. He looked like a midget next to Embiid. He is great in moments here and there. Imo, he's way more of a 4. We all hope Humporti works out. But if KAT goes down at the end of the season, our whole season is ruined. None of the guys you mentioned are good enough to go up against Philly or Boston. With Mitch, we have a fighting chance with the new additions. This isn't about the regular season. This is about winning a championship and the playoffs.


If Kat is out for the playoffs the Knicks are no longer a contedner whether Mitch is on the team or not...

The key is getting to the playoffs healthy, Precious can handle the center position for spots during the regular season..

Hukporti looks like he can handle 10 minutes a night already..

Sims sucks ass and would be an absolute last resort..

I like Mitch but with KAT on this team his services are not as needed as years past
Begley says there’s “initial optimism”  
bceagle05 : 10/18/2024 5:23 pm : link
that Shamet may avoid surgery.
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JoeSchoens11 : 10/18/2024 5:39 pm : link
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Mitch:
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KAT:
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Robinson's total: 254
KAT's total: 250

Again, if we weren't happy with Robinson as our C due to injuries, how can we be okay with KAT and trading Mitch?



We werent happy with Mitch because he is not gojng to be able to play until January, maybe..

If Kat misses games, Preciius can start, he has started and played pretty damn well..

You then would have Hukporti and posaibly Sims..




All you are doing is typing names. You say all the time how much Sims sucks. I like Precious a lot but let's be realistic. He is not a full time C. He looked like a midget next to Embiid. He is great in moments here and there. Imo, he's way more of a 4. We all hope Humporti works out. But if KAT goes down at the end of the season, our whole season is ruined. None of the guys you mentioned are good enough to go up against Philly or Boston. With Mitch, we have a fighting chance with the new additions. This isn't about the regular season. This is about winning a championship and the playoffs.



If Kat is out for the playoffs the Knicks are no longer a contedner whether Mitch is on the team or not...

The key is getting to the playoffs healthy, Precious can handle the center position for spots during the regular season..

Hukporti looks like he can handle 10 minutes a night already..

Sims sucks ass and would be an absolute last resort..

I like Mitch but with KAT on this team his services are not as needed as years past
We were absolutely a contender last year with JR out. Aside from losing DDV (which does hurt) we wouldn’t be in a much different spot than if KAT goes down this year.

It was having pretty much entire team getting (or playing) injured that kept us from possibly keeping the Celtics from get to the championship.
RE: Begley says there’s “initial optimism”  
Optimus-NY : 10/18/2024 5:47 pm : link
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that Shamet may avoid surgery.


Let's see. They played us like fiddles when Julius got hurt.
The Knicks were not beating the Celtics last year  
nygiants16 : 10/18/2024 5:47 pm : link
with Brunson, Divo, Hart, OG Hartenstekn starting lineup..It wasnt going to happen, they would of played them tough, but they werent going to beat them
Wizards are playing Poole at PG? 😂  
bceagle05 : 10/18/2024 7:14 pm : link
I’m sure he’ll be a real distributor.
Here's a link for the game:  
Optimus-NY : 10/18/2024 7:19 pm : link
Click below...


Knicks @ Wizards - 7 pm EDT start - MSG feed (strfish.xyz) - ( New Window )
I’m not surprised the offense look bad,  
LW_Giants : 10/18/2024 7:31 pm : link
That’s gonna take time, but they shouldn’t look this poor on defense. Hart and Bridges are missing assignment after assignment
Precious is just another example of  
steve in ky : 10/18/2024 7:39 pm : link
Showing how Thibs seems to elevate big men’s games . Achiuwa’s game has improved noticeably since coming to NY
RE: Precious is just another example of  
LW_Giants : 10/18/2024 7:41 pm : link
In comment 16651530 steve in ky said:
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Showing how Thibs seems to elevate big men’s games . Achiuwa’s game has improved noticeably since coming to NY


Sims is the opposite. I’m not sure Red Auerbach himself could make that guy look like an nba player
RE: RE: Precious is just another example of  
steve in ky : 10/18/2024 7:47 pm : link
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Showing how Thibs seems to elevate big men’s games . Achiuwa’s game has improved noticeably since coming to NY



Sims is the opposite. I’m not sure Red Auerbach himself could make that guy look like an nba player


Sims is just not very good. One could still say that he’s even got this much out of him is impressive. Sims very easily could have never seen NBA minutes with any other organization.
Towns and Bridges  
bceagle05 : 10/18/2024 7:50 pm : link
still trying to find their three-point shots.
I thought we'd see the actual rotation tonight but Thibs has gone  
LW_Giants : 10/18/2024 7:56 pm : link
11 deep already and he def won't do that in this season.

Bridges isn't a good three point shooter, but KAT is so his shot should come. I'm way more worried about the defense. Bridges and Hart are missing assignments and Sims is an abject disaster.
Dadiet out there with Brunson and Towns.  
bceagle05 : 10/18/2024 7:57 pm : link
Pretty cool.
If this is the 'dress rehearsal' game and Dadiet  
Del Shofner : 10/18/2024 7:57 pm : link
is getting minutes, could Dadiet be in the rotation already? That would surprise me.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/18/2024 7:58 pm : link
Got NBA League Pass this morning.

Can't wait for Tuesday!

RE: If this is the 'dress rehearsal' game and Dadiet  
LW_Giants : 10/18/2024 7:59 pm : link
In comment 16651543 Del Shofner said:
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is getting minutes, could Dadiet be in the rotation already? That would surprise me.


I don't think so, Deuce is getting a rest day and Thibs has gone 10 deep, which won't happen in the regular season.

Dadiet may just be an NBA player, and he's only 19!
Bridges is a pretty good three-point shooter, but not lights out.  
bceagle05 : 10/18/2024 8:01 pm : link
Gonna take a little time for him to find a comfort zone out there.
RE: Bridges is a pretty good three-point shooter, but not lights out.  
LW_Giants : 10/18/2024 8:03 pm : link
In comment 16651548 bceagle05 said:
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Gonna take a little time for him to find a comfort zone out there.


Yea, I think Hart is going to end up coming out of the starting lineup at some point because he's really playing the role/taking the space Bridges should be.
Is Poole tacking trash in a  
LW_Giants : 10/18/2024 8:05 pm : link
preseason game lol?
Is no one else troubled by how much  
NYDCBlue : 10/18/2024 8:10 pm : link
KAT looks like he came out of the same womb from Ezekiel Elliott's Ewok mother?
RE: Bridges is a pretty good three-point shooter, but not lights out.  
steve in ky : 10/18/2024 8:11 pm : link
In comment 16651548 bceagle05 said:
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Gonna take a little time for him to find a comfort zone out there.


He and Donte are almost identical career % from three which is largely why Donte was expendable. Donte just had a career year as a Knick and why trading him when they did made a lot of sense.

BTW, I really hate the KAT trade  
NYDCBlue : 10/18/2024 8:16 pm : link
I think Randle is slightly better than him, thus the best player in that trade, plus loosing The Big Rangue will be huge for our shooting and spacing. AND WE THREW A FIRST ON TOP??????

Terrible trade. Then again the Knicks have a long history of terrible trades, so this one barely registeres in the history of the team.
RE: BTW, I really hate the KAT trade  
steve in ky : 10/18/2024 8:23 pm : link
In comment 16651566 NYDCBlue said:
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I think Randle is slightly better than him, thus the best player in that trade, plus loosing The Big Rangue will be huge for our shooting and spacing. AND WE THREW A FIRST ON TOP??????

Terrible trade. Then again the Knicks have a long history of terrible trades, so this one barely registeres in the history of the team.


I may have been Randles biggest fan that posts here but the reality is that Randle was going to be a free agent after this season, better get value for him now then chance losing him for nothing. Couple that with losing IHart and it was a smart move to make
KAT and Bridges can't hit from 3  
Anakim : 10/18/2024 8:47 pm : link
Brutal.



Well, I hope the Wizards compete for the Playoffs
Brunson’s in mid season form.  
bceagle05 : 10/18/2024 8:52 pm : link
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Precious just pulled his hamstring  
LW_Giants : 10/18/2024 9:06 pm : link
may not see him for a couple weeks.
Precious cones up limping looks like hamstring  
steve in ky : 10/18/2024 9:07 pm : link
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Another nice showing from Dadiet.  
bceagle05 : 10/18/2024 9:32 pm : link
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Down to the wire  
bluefin : 10/18/2024 9:35 pm : link
even after abysmal 3-pt shooting
Just feels like we wrote blank checks for OG, Bridges and KAT  
Anakim : 10/18/2024 9:36 pm : link
And I think it'll work out, but there are going to be growing pains.


KAT and Bridges have yet to shown that they can be reliable perimeter shooters. We've seen they can do that on other teams. Hopefully it's just rust.
RE: BTW, I really hate the KAT trade  
nygiants16 : 10/18/2024 10:13 pm : link
In comment 16651566 NYDCBlue said:
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I think Randle is slightly better than him, thus the best player in that trade, plus loosing The Big Rangue will be huge for our shooting and spacing. AND WE THREW A FIRST ON TOP??????

Terrible trade. Then again the Knicks have a long history of terrible trades, so this one barely registeres in the history of the team.


So you were going to play Randle at the 5? You were going to pay him 45 to 50 million a year..

and no Randle is not better than KAT, literally there is nothing Randle is better than KAT at on the court..

KAT is also a much better fit than zrandle was
RE: BTW, I really hate the KAT trade  
nygiants16 : 10/18/2024 10:15 pm : link
In comment 16651566 NYDCBlue said:
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I think Randle is slightly better than him, thus the best player in that trade, plus loosing The Big Rangue will be huge for our shooting and spacing. AND WE THREW A FIRST ON TOP??????

Terrible trade. Then again the Knicks have a long history of terrible trades, so this one barely registeres in the history of the team.


You also realize their spacing is better now right?
RE: RE: BTW, I really hate the KAT trade  
Anakim : 10/18/2024 10:18 pm : link
In comment 16651682 nygiants16 said:
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I think Randle is slightly better than him, thus the best player in that trade, plus loosing The Big Rangue will be huge for our shooting and spacing. AND WE THREW A FIRST ON TOP??????

Terrible trade. Then again the Knicks have a long history of terrible trades, so this one barely registeres in the history of the team.



You also realize their spacing is better now right?


So long as KAT hits his threes like he's shown he can do in his career. But he's been awful from 3PT land in preseason.
RE: RE: RE: BTW, I really hate the KAT trade  
nygiants16 : 10/18/2024 10:23 pm : link
In comment 16651685 Anakim said:
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I think Randle is slightly better than him, thus the best player in that trade, plus loosing The Big Rangue will be huge for our shooting and spacing. AND WE THREW A FIRST ON TOP??????

Terrible trade. Then again the Knicks have a long history of terrible trades, so this one barely registeres in the history of the team.



You also realize their spacing is better now right?



So long as KAT hits his threes like he's shown he can do in his career. But he's been awful from 3PT land in preseason.


Its preseason, the guy is the best shooting big of all time, he is not all of a sudden not going to be able to shoot 3s
RE: RE: RE: RE: BTW, I really hate the KAT trade  
Anakim : 10/18/2024 10:25 pm : link
In comment 16651692 nygiants16 said:
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I think Randle is slightly better than him, thus the best player in that trade, plus loosing The Big Rangue will be huge for our shooting and spacing. AND WE THREW A FIRST ON TOP??????

Terrible trade. Then again the Knicks have a long history of terrible trades, so this one barely registeres in the history of the team.



You also realize their spacing is better now right?



So long as KAT hits his threes like he's shown he can do in his career. But he's been awful from 3PT land in preseason.



Its preseason, the guy is the best shooting big of all time, he is not all of a sudden not going to be able to shoot 3s


I know, I'm just nervous. You wonder if he's getting up there in age and slowing down. IDK. But it's not it's his knees. He barely gets any vertical on his jumpshot.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: BTW, I really hate the KAT trade  
nygiants16 : 10/18/2024 10:31 pm : link
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I think Randle is slightly better than him, thus the best player in that trade, plus loosing The Big Rangue will be huge for our shooting and spacing. AND WE THREW A FIRST ON TOP??????

Terrible trade. Then again the Knicks have a long history of terrible trades, so this one barely registeres in the history of the team.



You also realize their spacing is better now right?



So long as KAT hits his threes like he's shown he can do in his career. But he's been awful from 3PT land in preseason.



Its preseason, the guy is the best shooting big of all time, he is not all of a sudden not going to be able to shoot 3s



I know, I'm just nervous. You wonder if he's getting up there in age and slowing down. IDK. But it's not it's his knees. He barely gets any vertical on his jumpshot.


Never does, even when he posts up..
He’s 28, in his prime  
steve in ky : 10/18/2024 10:57 pm : link
He’s a better career three point shooter than Dante, he’ll be fine. He just hit traded, had to move and get acclimated to a new team and it’s preseason. It far too soon to be nervous about his shot
Josh Hart  
Jon In NYC : 10/18/2024 11:37 pm : link
With what, 2 points through four games on 5 shots?

At some point he’s just more impactful off the bench.

I think the Knicks best five will ultimately be jb-deuce-bridges-OG-KAT

Deuce is simply a better 3 and D player than Hart and that’s what the starters need imo.

Payne will play but I’d love a Kolek-Hart-Dadiet-Precious bench
You will see plent of Deuce with the starters  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2024 8:27 am : link
he will be the first sub in and he will play 30 minutes a night, but i thjnk we will see the value of Josh Hart when the real bullets start to fly..

Little things like fjnding the open space to cut when his man goes to cut, crashing the boards because no one is putting a body on him, him pushing the pace off rebounds..

His 3 point shooting will be suspect but you cant just ignore him, you ignore him and you are asking for him to grab offensive boards..

It will be Brunson and KATs job to find him on those cuts..
Hart  
steve in ky : 10/19/2024 8:48 am : link
I almost get the impression that now that he has his extension behind him, he’s fine with doing the dirty work that helps the team and not look to score. But we’ve scene where he goes on runs himself, especially on the fast breaks which will happen more in the regular season. He scores when game dictates he needs to. I’m not worried that he’s not looking to shoot a lot during preseason, I actually think it’s a positive if his during the preseason. It’s all about the team with him and now his teammates whose games rely on shooting need that work more.
I also think its a good sign  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2024 8:55 am : link
the Knicks havnt shot well at all and are one of the highest scoring teams in the preseason..
A good deal of patience is going to be  
Chris L. : 10/19/2024 8:57 am : link
required with this thing. Basically a whole new starting lineup. It is going to take some time for everyone to get comfortable. They will each eventually find their place. Right now Towns, Bridges and Hart all look very uncomfortable and there is nothing wrong with that. In fact, it is to be expected. Everyone should be more worried about the injuries piling up. We are starting the season with three fifths of our second unit injured and they have only played five preseason games. Also, on the positive side, all three of the draft picks look like they will be NBA rotational plays at some point. That is huge considering the cupboard is not as stocked as in the recent past.
RE: Hart  
Jon In NYC : 10/19/2024 9:18 am : link
In comment 16651938 steve in ky said:
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I almost get the impression that now that he has his extension behind him, he’s fine with doing the dirty work that helps the team and not look to score. But we’ve scene where he goes on runs himself, especially on the fast breaks which will happen more in the regular season. He scores when game dictates he needs to. I’m not worried that he’s not looking to shoot a lot during preseason, I actually think it’s a positive if his during the preseason. It’s all about the team with him and now his teammates whose games rely on shooting need that work more.


“I’m lost. I have no idea,” Hart said. “There’s a couple days before we have until Boston. So whether that’s trying to get a rhythm with that starting unit or we give somebody else a look and my role changes and comes off the bench and go with that unit. So just trying to figure out right now I pretty much have no idea. But we’ll see what happens in Boston (in the season opener Tuesday).”

That was Hart after the game. Safe to say he doesn't feel like he's impacting the game with the starters.

He's not even rebounding at a high level. 12 rebounds in total across 4 games and 90 minutes.

It's preseason, moving parts, etc., but it's something to monitor
We’ve seen many examples to know  
steve in ky : 10/19/2024 9:25 am : link
Hart wears his emotions on his sleeves and is vocal about it. He’s the least of my worries on this team
And I’m not disputing the benefits that he would bring to second unit  
steve in ky : 10/19/2024 9:29 am : link
Because we’ve seen him in that role. All I’m saying is he’s not an issue and will find his game when it counts whether the situation calls for him to start or come off the bench. Harts not an issue
Yeah, I mean  
Jon In NYC : 10/19/2024 9:34 am : link
I don't think he's lost his mojo, he's just the worst player of the five starters. He's the 5th best scorer and probably 3rd best defender.

His best skill is probably his chaotic energy, which feels like a huge lift as the 6th man and less impactful as a starter.

Deuce meanwhile has his 10 3s in 3 preseason games and spaces the floor for Brunson and KAT to work their basically unstoppable two man game.

We'll see what happens but I think the move makes a ton of sense.
I don’t disagree  
steve in ky : 10/19/2024 9:38 am : link
I trust Thibbs to push the right buttons
There isn't anything more meaningless than pre-season stats  
Stu11 : 10/19/2024 9:48 am : link
I don't care what sport we're talking about. I would take them with less than a grain of salt. There probably will be an adjustment period to start the season working 2 huge new pieces into the starting lineup in Bridges and KAT. The best news is coming out of camp outside of Mitch which we baked in, we're healthy. Excited to tip it off Boston and hopefully wreck their banner raising.
I’m not really concerned about hart  
Knickstape : 10/19/2024 9:53 am : link
Strictly because he is just the energizer bunny. He just goes and goes. I’m not looking at him to contribute 15-18 points. Just crash the boards. Play defense and give his normal great effort.

My concern is bridges right now. That hitch he has is rough and him talking about trying to fix his jumper is what worries me. He’s looked dreadful and we will see how fans handle him playing poorly if he starts the season as bad as he is currently. Given how we dealt 5 picks. Your gonna have alot of noise about how we should have kept Divo

That being said I’m still happy with the trade and know we need to be patient. But id be lying if I wasn’t a little bit surprised at the shooting from
Him so far.
It's the last preseason game...  
Jan in DC : 10/19/2024 10:04 am : link
and they definitely haven't gelled yet. I wouldn't say I'm concerned, but I thought they'd be further along than this.

At the end of the day, we're going to have to get consistent offensive output from guys who haven't shot well in the preseason. Bridges, OG and KAT all need to find their shots. Lots of room for improvement.

I have been encouraged by the Brunson-KAT game. Brunson has found KAT on a couple really nice cuts to the basket so that is promising.

The sky isn't falling, but there's still a lot of work to do to get to where I want the team to go.
i Can see the argument to start Deuce  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2024 10:07 am : link
harder for teams to put their center on Deuce and Hart can come off the bench and just cause havoc

Can we wait until regular season before we trash trade...typical Knick  
fredgbrown : 10/19/2024 10:19 am : link
/Giants fans...
RE: It's the last preseason game...  
Jon In NYC : 10/19/2024 10:33 am : link
In comment 16651975 Jan in DC said:
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and they definitely haven't gelled yet. I wouldn't say I'm concerned, but I thought they'd be further along than this.

At the end of the day, we're going to have to get consistent offensive output from guys who haven't shot well in the preseason. Bridges, OG and KAT all need to find their shots. Lots of room for improvement.

I have been encouraged by the Brunson-KAT game. Brunson has found KAT on a couple really nice cuts to the basket so that is promising.

The sky isn't falling, but there's still a lot of work to do to get to where I want the team to go.


The Brunson/KAT two man game is going to determine about 85% of the Knicks success this year. The remaining 15% will be if someone can figure out how to score against OG and Bridges.

If KAT shoots 40% from 3 on like 8 attempts per game and Brunson does Brunson things, the offense is going to be absurd.
Not gonna lie, the guy I’m concerned about is Bridges  
Mike in NJ : 10/19/2024 10:38 am : link
What the hell did he do to his shooting form? It looks long, awkward, and he’s shooting terribly. He’s trying to change the release point, and so far it just does not look like a good move, he needs to just stick with what’s been working.
RE: Not gonna lie, the guy I’m concerned about is Bridges  
kelsto811 : 10/19/2024 11:18 am : link
In comment 16652001 Mike in NJ said:
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What the hell did he do to his shooting form? It looks long, awkward, and he’s shooting terribly. He’s trying to change the release point, and so far it just does not look like a good move, he needs to just stick with what’s been working.


I came here to ask about this...as a Nets fan, he was fine in Brooklyn his 1st year, great actually. In his 2nd year, whatever issues there were, it had nothing to do with his shot technique...no idea why they'd want to mess with it now. And obviously the Knicks coaches are the motivators or supporters of this, just seems like an odd time in his career to be messing with it
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steve in ky : 10/19/2024 11:29 am : link
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WASHINGTON — After a brutal shooting performance — and a difficult preseason overall from beyond the arc — Mikal Bridges acknowledged he tinkered with his shooting form in an effort to reclaim his comfort of Villanova.

“Ever since I got into the league, been trying to fix it back to when I was in college,” Bridges said. “So it’s been seven years of just every day.”

Bridges has an unconventional hitch to his form, a habit he said he picked up after going pro in 2018. However, he clearly altered it again before this season and it was ineffective in preseason.

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steve in ky : 10/19/2024 11:32 am : link
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“When I came out of college, I tweaked it a little bit. And then my 2nd year in the league, I had the hitch, and tried to build back from that
RE: RE: Not gonna lie, the guy I’m concerned about is Bridges  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2024 11:49 am : link
In comment 16652020 kelsto811 said:
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What the hell did he do to his shooting form? It looks long, awkward, and he’s shooting terribly. He’s trying to change the release point, and so far it just does not look like a good move, he needs to just stick with what’s been working.



I came here to ask about this...as a Nets fan, he was fine in Brooklyn his 1st year, great actually. In his 2nd year, whatever issues there were, it had nothing to do with his shot technique...no idea why they'd want to mess with it now. And obviously the Knicks coaches are the motivators or supporters of this, just seems like an odd time in his career to be messing with it


He said he has been altering his shot every year since he has gotten to the NBA, has nothing to do with the Knicks
The fact he has altering his shot so much  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2024 11:49 am : link
and still has been a great shooter makes me less worried about his shot
Shamet and Precious  
shyster : 10/19/2024 4:38 pm : link
Seems Knicks value Shamet enough to allow him to occupy the vet roster spot and rehab the shoulder:

Landry Shamet dislocated his right shoulder and will be re-evaluated at a later date.
— NY_KnicksPR (@NY_KnicksPR) October 18, 2024


Based on the wording here, sounds like the Knicks will take him into the season. Contract isn’t guaranteed until January. https://t.co/eXC56oyp1c
— James L. Edwards III (@JLEdwardsIII) October 18, 2024


Haven't seen update on Precious's apparent hamstring issue. Being down two members of second unit wouldn't be ideal.
Shamet was released  
nygiants16 : 10/19/2024 4:42 pm : link
Knicks can stay at 12 guys for 2 weeks
RE: Shamet was released  
shyster : 10/19/2024 4:46 pm : link
In comment 16652180 nygiants16 said:
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Knicks can stay at 12 guys for 2 weeks


Thanks. I see that just happened.

Staying at 12 standard players and waiting for Shamet I'd say amounts to same thing.

Being down Mitch, Shamet and possibly Precious would be a drag on the second unit.
RE: Shamet was released  
Anakim : 10/19/2024 4:53 pm : link
In comment 16652180 nygiants16 said:
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Knicks can stay at 12 guys for 2 weeks


Michael Scotto
@MikeAScotto

The New York Knicks have waived TJ Warren, Landry Shamet and Chuma Okeke, team says.
Been said already, but i dont think Bridges has had the same  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/19/2024 5:18 pm : link
Shooting form in consecutive years for his career. Its not a new development, ive got zero concerns. Never been an issue for him in real games.
Walker  
31southst : 10/19/2024 5:52 pm : link
Celtics waived Lonnie Walker, wonder if the Knicks have any interest? Seems like a like for like replacement for Shamet.
Begley on Warren  
shyster : 10/19/2024 6:16 pm : link
@IanBegley
With Landry Shamet situation up in air, NYK didn’t have cap space under 2nd apron for T.J. Warren. Warren had support among some NYK coaches & front office to make roster. He is going to join Westchester, SNY has learned, as he’ll likely be in mix to rejoin NYK during season.
RE: i Can see the argument to start Deuce  
Larry in Pencilvania : 10/19/2024 10:22 pm : link
In comment 16651979 nygiants16 said:
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harder for teams to put their center on Deuce and Hart can come off the bench and just cause havoc


Probably the biggest argument is the offensive rebound issue.
The Post has speculated that the Knicks may be bringing back Gallinari  
Anakim : 10/20/2024 11:22 am : link
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RE: The Post has speculated that the Knicks may be bringing back Gallinari  
AROCK1000 : 10/20/2024 11:26 am : link
In comment 16652825 Anakim said:
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He can be helpful!
Can he play D any more?
So  
DanMetroMan : 10/21/2024 12:14 pm : link
much for the Mitch for Murphy BS

Marc Stein
@TheSteinLine
BREAKING: Trey Murphy III and the Pelicans have agreed to a four-year, $112 million contract extension, his agents Sean Kennedy and Jeff Schwartz of @excelsm
tell @TheSteinLine
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RE: The Post has speculated that the Knicks may be bringing back Gallinari  
DanMetroMan : 10/21/2024 12:17 pm : link
In comment 16652825 Anakim said:
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Just purchased an apartment in Brooklyn. Doesn't mean a ton when you are worth as much as these guys are but still potentially notable.
NYK available for tomorrow's opener  
shyster : 10/21/2024 6:24 pm : link
Precious out 2-4 weeks with hamstring.

Starters

JB
Hart
Bridges
OG
KAT

Bench

McBride
Payne
Kolek
Dadiet
Sims
Hukporti
Jacob Toppin: had injured ankle for pre-season but not on injured list for opener

Knicks have 12 players on standard contracts, including the unavailable Mitch. And three players on non-guaranteed: Hukporti, Toppin and the injured McCullar.

Fred Katz's comment on the situation, in the wake of the injuries to Shamet and Precious:

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On his "Katz and Shoot" podcast, The Athletic's Fred Katz said he thinks Dadiet could be the next-man-up in the rotation.

"I think it might be Dadiet," Katz said of the rotation. "And if you told me a month ago, especially before the [Towns] trade, that Pacome Dadiet was going to be in the Knicks' opening night rotation, I'd be like, what the hell happened here?"


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as of today the get in price  
Enzo : 10/21/2024 9:00 pm : link
for the yankee home games next week is north of $1,000. I mention this only because I suspect Knick tickets to be even more expensive should they ever make the finals.
RE: NYK available for tomorrow's opener  
Del Shofner : 10/21/2024 9:22 pm : link
In comment 16656682 shyster said:
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Fred Katz's comment on the situation, in the wake of the injuries to Shamet and Precious:

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On his "Katz and Shoot" podcast, The Athletic's Fred Katz said he thinks Dadiet could be the next-man-up in the rotation.

"I think it might be Dadiet," Katz said of the rotation. "And if you told me a month ago, especially before the [Towns] trade, that Pacome Dadiet was going to be in the Knicks' opening night rotation, I'd be like, what the hell happened here?"

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I was thinking it might be Dadiet as well. Or else Hukporti or Sims get some minutes at the 5 and KAT some minutes at the 4. But Dadiet in place of Precious may be less of a disruption to the rotation overall.
Thibs could also go 8 man for a couple of weeks  
nygiants16 : 10/21/2024 9:28 pm : link
i think even if he goes 9 i think he is going to have 2 starters with the bench unit..

Something like this sub pattern:

Deuce for Bridges 5 or 6 minute mark.
Sims for KAT a couple minutes later
Dadiet for Hart with a couple of minutes left..
Brunson and OG finish the quarter

Start 2nd with Payne, Deuce, Brisges, KAT and Dadiet or Sims..

Bridges and KAT play entire 2nd..Hart comes in around 8 minute mark for Dadiet or Sims...

Brunson and OG return with 5 or 6 minutes left in the 2nd
RE: as of today the get in price  
Jon In NYC : 10/21/2024 9:42 pm : link
In comment 16656830 Enzo said:
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for the yankee home games next week is north of $1,000. I mention this only because I suspect Knick tickets to be even more expensive should they ever make the finals.


I have season tickets and right now I have the Christmas Day game against the Spurs for sale...1,200 each. Some have sold around my section for even more already.
I can't believe we're in a world where  
Jon In NYC : 10/21/2024 9:44 pm : link
Pacome Dadiet is about to get big bench minute his rookie year, but sure enough he's no worse than the 9th man right now, maybe 8th.

I think he's pretty concretely shaken off the narrative that he's too raw to play though. He was absolutely cooking in the preseason. I'm excited to see what he can do.

It's going to take very little for me to start calling for Big Huk over Sims too.
Picking up right where we left off last year.  
bceagle05 : 10/21/2024 9:47 pm : link
Two rotation guys injured in preseason games and who knows when Mitch returns. We’ll get through it though.
Pacers  
DanMetroMan : 10/24/2024 4:58 pm : link
lose Wiseman (torn Achilles)
RE: I can't believe we're in a world where  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/24/2024 5:20 pm : link
In comment 16656874 Jon In NYC said:
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Pacome Dadiet is about to get big bench minute his rookie year, but sure enough he's no worse than the 9th man right now, maybe 8th.

I think he's pretty concretely shaken off the narrative that he's too raw to play though. He was absolutely cooking in the preseason. I'm excited to see what he can do.

It's going to take very little for me to start calling for Big Huk over Sims too.


Dadiet looks very comfortable and competent. Somewhat like Kolek.

Im with you on Hukporti, but Sims isnt really putting up a fight for his job.
If they are going to officiate Wembenyama like they are tonight  
nygiants16 : 10/24/2024 8:14 pm : link
and allow players to be physical with him, he is going to struggle, he looks like he cant do anything with the guys oushing him around
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