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Is the Evan Neal experiment here over?

SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/19/2024 6:48 pm
Decent article & I tend to think the author is correct in that the Giants are all but done with Neal.

I just can't believe how this dude's career has played out thus far. I thought we got a steal @ 7 & he'd be a linchpin on our OL for a decade. Now he's pretty much an afterthought. Of course I'm totally prepared for him to go elsewhere & become a solid pro because that's our luck recently.
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They’re playing a kid  
JoeyBigBlue : 10/19/2024 6:54 pm : link
That has no business playing Tackle at the NFL level over him. Yeah I say the Neal experiment is over.
Not yet  
Spider43 : 10/19/2024 6:55 pm : link
And I wanted Ickey E. that year. Neal will still get the rest of the season to be evaluated. After that, only Schoen can answer.
No offense  
mittenedman : 10/19/2024 6:55 pm : link
but that's a nothing article.

No information whatsoever, and then the author speculates on Daboll's statement.

I'm not buying that's he's hurt - he played in the final preseason game and the disaster pass pro was still there. He also looked as good as I've ever seen him in the run game. Blowing his man off the ball with perfect technique.

The fact they don't want to play him at T now that Thomas went down makes me wonder even more whey they haven't just moved him to G. It's too obvious. His disastrous quality at T will not be an issue at G, and you've probably got yourself at worst an average starter. Possibly an All Pro G IMO.
Do you guys know anything about football?  
robbieballs2003 : 10/19/2024 7:11 pm : link
It doesn't sound like it. Relax. Go have a drink.
If they're done with him  
Bill in UT : 10/19/2024 7:15 pm : link
what's the point of carrying him on the roster. The Evan Neal experiment, guard or LT hasn't even begun. Maybe it never will.
I  
AcidTest : 10/19/2024 7:31 pm : link
still don't know why they didn't move him to guard this past offseason, especially after signing Eluemunor. There was already ample evidence from when he did play that he wasn't a tackle in the NFL. That meant his only chance for success was at guard, where as others have noted, his strength could make him a terrific mover. Guard would also help hide his bad feet. And yet they stubbornly insisted throughout the offseason that he was a tackle only.
RE: I  
robbieballs2003 : 10/19/2024 7:31 pm : link
In comment 16652248 AcidTest said:
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still don't know why they didn't move him to guard this past offseason, especially after signing Eluemunor. There was already ample evidence from when he did play that he wasn't a tackle in the NFL. That meant his only chance for success was at guard, where as others have noted, his strength could make him a terrific mover. Guard would also help hide his bad feet. And yet they stubbornly insisted throughout the offseason that he was a tackle only.


What? He was injured all offseason. That's the issue.
RE: RE: I  
AcidTest : 10/19/2024 7:34 pm : link
In comment 16652249 robbieballs2003 said:
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still don't know why they didn't move him to guard this past offseason, especially after signing Eluemunor. There was already ample evidence from when he did play that he wasn't a tackle in the NFL. That meant his only chance for success was at guard, where as others have noted, his strength could make him a terrific mover. Guard would also help hide his bad feet. And yet they stubbornly insisted throughout the offseason that he was a tackle only.



What? He was injured all offseason. That's the issue.


Yes, he's obviously been injured, but when he's played, it's been at RT, and it's been a disaster.
11 more games  
gridirony : 10/19/2024 7:36 pm : link
means the possibility of more injuries to the OL. If healthy, I think that he'll play at some point in the season.
Yes,  
BigBlueinDE : 10/19/2024 7:49 pm : link
he's a bust. Time to move on.
It speaks volumes that he’s not playing.  
DeVito32 : 10/19/2024 7:57 pm : link
He’s not playing in jumbo sets in short yardage/goalline. And they chose Ezeudu at LT (who’s awful) than moving Eluemunor to LT and Neal at RT. Or having Neal at least be the swing tackle practicing at both spots.

A couple of possible reasons for this:
1) Neal still isn’t fully healthy. I know he’s been off the pup list but maybe he’s still not 100%.
2) Bricillo doesn’t think Eluemunor can play LT anymore.

BUT! If the 2 reasons above aren’t true then they really don’t think Neal is good at all. Neal coming out of college played LT… RT the year before that and G is freshman year. He wasn’t drafted as a developmental prospect. He was a plug & play prospect. He played LT his final year and most scouts graded him at LT. He’s only a RT for the Giants because of Thomas. Pretty much anywhere else he went he’d be a LT. You don’t want to move him to G yet? Fine but he should be practicing at both tackle spots.

Ezeudu was drafted as a G in the 3rd round and most scouts said we reached. Neal was drafted at 7th overall as a LT prospect yet he’s not even practicing there. It’s a freaking joke.

Evan Neal is 24 years old...  
Rory : 10/19/2024 8:18 pm : link
plenty of time for growth, health and re-emergence as a decent OT.

Most OL need time to develop.

When you guys write people off so early in their careers, it really shows lack of intelligence and memory.
Wow some of you  
section125 : 10/19/2024 8:29 pm : link
have no patience at all. He just started practicing with Bricillo a few weeks ago.

Eleumunor was a late developer. What is the rush? Let him get taught properly. He may end up at guard, but for now let him work with Bricillo.
RE: Wow some of you  
JoeyBigBlue : 10/19/2024 9:07 pm : link
In comment 16652318 section125 said:
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have no patience at all. He just started practicing with Bricillo a few weeks ago.

Eleumunor was a late developer. What is the rush? Let him get taught properly. He may end up at guard, but for now let him work with Bricillo.


Eleumunor wasn’t drafted 7th overall. A 7th overall pick should not take 4-5 years to develop. Neal is a bust, plain and simple.
He reportedly has still been healing up  
JonC : 10/19/2024 9:08 pm : link
Watch for reports his practice reps and purpose are picking up.
RE: No offense  
81_Great_Dane : 10/19/2024 9:34 pm : link
In comment 16652237 mittenedman said:
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but that's a nothing article.

No information whatsoever, and then the author speculates on Daboll's statement.

I'm not buying that's he's hurt - he played in the final preseason game and the disaster pass pro was still there. He also looked as good as I've ever seen him in the run game. Blowing his man off the ball with perfect technique.

The fact they don't want to play him at T now that Thomas went down makes me wonder even more whey they haven't just moved him to G. It's too obvious. His disastrous quality at T will not be an issue at G, and you've probably got yourself at worst an average starter. Possibly an All Pro G IMO.
I'm not an expert on OL play but I have seen analysis saying Neal's not well suited to guard.

Some guys can play inside and outside, some can only play inside or outside.
RE: Wow some of you  
Jersey Heel : 10/19/2024 9:58 pm : link
In comment 16652318 section125 said:
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have no patience at all. He just started practicing with Bricillo a few weeks ago.

Eleumunor was a late developer. What is the rush? Let him get taught properly. He may end up at guard, but for now let him work with Bricillo.

The rush is he’s in his 3rd year and we have to decide if we want to pick up his 5th year option.
RE: RE: No offense  
mittenedman : 10/19/2024 10:10 pm : link
In comment 16652400 81_Great_Dane said:
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but that's a nothing article.

No information whatsoever, and then the author speculates on Daboll's statement.

I'm not buying that's he's hurt - he played in the final preseason game and the disaster pass pro was still there. He also looked as good as I've ever seen him in the run game. Blowing his man off the ball with perfect technique.

The fact they don't want to play him at T now that Thomas went down makes me wonder even more whey they haven't just moved him to G. It's too obvious. His disastrous quality at T will not be an issue at G, and you've probably got yourself at worst an average starter. Possibly an All Pro G IMO.

I'm not an expert on OL play but I have seen analysis saying Neal's not well suited to guard.

Some guys can play inside and outside, some can only play inside or outside.


Why can’t he play G?
RE: RE: Wow some of you  
section125 : 10/19/2024 10:15 pm : link
In comment 16652434 Jersey Heel said:
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have no patience at all. He just started practicing with Bricillo a few weeks ago.

Eleumunor was a late developer. What is the rush? Let him get taught properly. He may end up at guard, but for now let him work with Bricillo.


The rush is he’s in his 3rd year and we have to decide if we want to pick up his 5th year option.


5th year option is not your concern. He will either prove to be a starter or will be let go
Not every tall OT can play OG  
JonC : 10/19/2024 10:35 pm : link
Pulling, hitting targets on the pull, picking up inside stunts etc require exceptional mobility and good feet. There's more to it regarding leverage and getting under the taller player is often less difficult, etc.

I'm sure the coach will figure out. But, saying kick him to OG is a guarantee of nothing.
So, when is the projection  
thrunthrublue : 10/19/2024 10:44 pm : link
for Neal to be healthy?.....when he is 40? He is very qualified, given his sloth like speed, massive presence.. to be a doorman at the Omni at 52nd and Madison given that they have Lenni and Tony to assist any patrons who are in a hurry.
Neal makes  
Silver Spoon : 10/20/2024 1:30 am : link
Ian Allen look like an all-pro.
...  
sb from NYT Forum : 10/20/2024 1:58 am : link
RE: They’re playing a kid  
Ned In Atlanta : 10/20/2024 5:50 am : link
In comment 16652235 JoeyBigBlue said:
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That has no business playing Tackle at the NFL level over him. Yeah I say the Neal experiment is over.



This. It's frustrating that even with what appears to be a very good OL coach the #7 pick from three years ago can't beat out Josh Ezedu
Neal at guard  
Cheech d : 10/20/2024 9:12 am : link
He is suited to play guard IMO.
Maybe he told the team he doesn’t want to play there?
Something isn’t being told in his story.
RE: RE: They’re playing a kid  
section125 : 10/20/2024 9:18 am : link
In comment 16652680 Ned In Atlanta said:
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That has no business playing Tackle at the NFL level over him. Yeah I say the Neal experiment is over.




This. It's frustrating that even with what appears to be a very good OL coach the #7 pick from three years ago can't beat out Josh Ezedu


What part of he couldn't practice until about 4 weeks ago did you not understand?
Unlearning all the bad habits he got into is going to take massive reps and since they practice very little in season, it takes more weeks to get into the corrected techniques.

Likewise, Ezeudu had flawed technique, but being healthy it was easier for him to practice. I guess we will see today if Carmen can turn people around.
I trust Bricillo to exercise expert  
cosmicj : 10/20/2024 9:24 am : link
Judgement. Watch what the coach does with Neal.
It wasn’t over when the germans  
Mattman : 10/20/2024 9:35 am : link
Bombed Pearl Harbor
zero reason to assume it's over  
AROCK1000 : 10/20/2024 11:21 am : link
He will have a chance,once fully healthy, to earn back his spot at RT.
It's only October. Neal will see the field this season  
ThomasG : 10/20/2024 11:22 am : link
as injuries pile up.
RE: It wasn’t over when the germans  
AROCK1000 : 10/20/2024 11:41 am : link
In comment 16652751 Mattman said:
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Bombed Pearl Harbor

Bricillio as Belushi-that would be hillarious!!
Could be right conclusion - but flawed logic in reaching it  
Bob in Newburgh : 10/20/2024 12:19 pm : link
Assumes Giants are confident in Elueminor performance at LT. This is a fact not in evidence.

Worse thing the Giants can do is to extend the damage to 2 positions, rather than limiting the potential to 1.
RE: RE: Wow some of you  
Rory : 10/20/2024 12:26 pm : link
In comment 16652371 JoeyBigBlue said:
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have no patience at all. He just started practicing with Bricillo a few weeks ago.

Eleumunor was a late developer. What is the rush? Let him get taught properly. He may end up at guard, but for now let him work with Bricillo.



Eleumunor wasn’t drafted 7th overall. A 7th overall pick should not take 4-5 years to develop. Neal is a bust, plain and simple.


Not not plain and not simple, and he was drafted 2 years ago, not sure if you understand the concept of time but that is not alot, esp when battling injuries.

Fucking get a grip
RE: I trust Bricillo to exercise expert  
Optimus-NY : 10/20/2024 12:32 pm : link
In comment 16652737 cosmicj said:
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Judgement. Watch what the coach does with Neal.


Agreed. I like Coach Brucillo. Excellent hire by Daboll.
RE: Not every tall OT can play OG  
widmerseyebrow : 10/21/2024 9:40 pm : link
In comment 16652520 JonC said:
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Pulling, hitting targets on the pull, picking up inside stunts etc require exceptional mobility and good feet. There's more to it regarding leverage and getting under the taller player is often less difficult, etc.

I'm sure the coach will figure out. But, saying kick him to OG is a guarantee of nothing.


100%
RE: RE: RE: Wow some of you  
JoeyBigBlue : 10/22/2024 8:26 pm : link
In comment 16652881 Rory said:
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have no patience at all. He just started practicing with Bricillo a few weeks ago.

Eleumunor was a late developer. What is the rush? Let him get taught properly. He may end up at guard, but for now let him work with Bricillo.



Eleumunor wasn’t drafted 7th overall. A 7th overall pick should not take 4-5 years to develop. Neal is a bust, plain and simple.



Not not plain and not simple, and he was drafted 2 years ago, not sure if you understand the concept of time but that is not alot, esp when battling injuries.

Fucking get a grip



Two years for a 7th overall pick is not a long time? In today's NFL where rookies are asked to start from year 1. Bro get a fucking clue.
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