He doesn't know football, he probably doesn't care about football. He's in it for the money and the social perks. And he makes as much money whether the team wins or loses. But as far as him stepping in, go back to 'he doesn't know football" so why would anyone be hopeful of him making a meaningful contribution?
He doesn't know football, he probably doesn't care about football. He's in it for the money and the social perks. And he makes as much money whether the team wins or loses. But as far as him stepping in, go back to 'he doesn't know football" so why would anyone be hopeful of him making a meaningful contribution?
He might not know about football. But, he sees what is on the field is not working.
He doesn't know football, he probably doesn't care about football. He's in it for the money and the social perks. And he makes as much money whether the team wins or loses. But as far as him stepping in, go back to 'he doesn't know football" so why would anyone be hopeful of him making a meaningful contribution?
He might not know about football. But, he sees what is on the field is not working.
Of course he sees it. He just doesn't have any level of competence to fix it, assuming that it keeps him up at night.
The only thing that will get his attention is the Golden Goose dying, and the way the NFL is set up there's a next to zero chance of that happening. Regardless, his only solution is changing the people he hires. The real solution is getting rid of him and his family, which is not a step he'll take. The Giants' franchise has come down an incompetent Mara shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic.
...Even with they Giants shit performance for almost a generation now, the value of the team appreciates more than the stock market by a significant amount. Why bother caring?
He doesn't know football, he probably doesn't care about football. He's in it for the money and the social perks. And he makes as much money whether the team wins or loses. But as far as him stepping in, go back to 'he doesn't know football" so why would anyone be hopeful of him making a meaningful contribution?
He doesn't know football, he probably doesn't care about football. He's in it for the money and the social perks. And he makes as much money whether the team wins or loses. But as far as him stepping in, go back to 'he doesn't know football" so why would anyone be hopeful of him making a meaningful contribution?
Neither does Mara but that never stops him.
yeah, but Mara doesn't know that he doesn't know anything. He's got 3 generations of "football people" that let him think otherwise.
...Even with they Giants shit performance for almost a generation now, the value of the team appreciates more than the stock market by a significant amount. Why bother caring?
Mara cares a great deal about the team. He just continues to think that he's the solution rather than the problem.
He doesn't know football, he probably doesn't care about football. He's in it for the money and the social perks. And he makes as much money whether the team wins or loses. But as far as him stepping in, go back to 'he doesn't know football" so why would anyone be hopeful of him making a meaningful contribution?
That's fine. That's exactly how business works. Guys like Tisch buy stuff and they hire qualified people to run them. I just took a quick look at his holdings and it looks like he hired an energy guy to run the energy business he bought.
Hire a qualified CEO. John Mara is the CEO because it's a hereditary position. Not because he's qualified. The Giants could actually have a proper CEO. Other teams do this. Sustained massive failure starts at the top. John Mara owns less than 5% of the Giants. He does not have any legal right to be the CEO. It's just the way the Giants like to do things. Turns out that the way the Giants like to do things results in massive sustained failure
This. He’s an another nepo baby. He and the Mara’s have one quality that has helped them. Won a D A lottery. I wouldn’t let either run a lemonade stand
He doesn't know football, he probably doesn't care about football. He's in it for the money and the social perks. And he makes as much money whether the team wins or loses. But as far as him stepping in, go back to 'he doesn't know football" so why would anyone be hopeful of him making a meaningful contribution?
That's fine. That's exactly how business works. Guys like Tisch buy stuff and they hire qualified people to run them. I just took a quick look at his holdings and it looks like he hired an energy guy to run the energy business he bought.
Hire a qualified CEO. John Mara is the CEO because it's a hereditary position. Not because he's qualified. The Giants could actually have a proper CEO. Other teams do this. Sustained massive failure starts at the top. John Mara owns less than 5% of the Giants. He does not have any legal right to be the CEO. It's just the way the Giants like to do things. Turns out that the way the Giants like to do things results in massive sustained failure
It doesn't matter that John Mara owns 5%. What matters is that the Mara family owns 51%
He doesn't know football, he probably doesn't care about football. He's in it for the money and the social perks. And he makes as much money whether the team wins or loses. But as far as him stepping in, go back to 'he doesn't know football" so why would anyone be hopeful of him making a meaningful contribution?
That's fine. That's exactly how business works. Guys like Tisch buy stuff and they hire qualified people to run them. I just took a quick look at his holdings and it looks like he hired an energy guy to run the energy business he bought.
Hire a qualified CEO. John Mara is the CEO because it's a hereditary position. Not because he's qualified. The Giants could actually have a proper CEO. Other teams do this. Sustained massive failure starts at the top. John Mara owns less than 5% of the Giants. He does not have any legal right to be the CEO. It's just the way the Giants like to do things. Turns out that the way the Giants like to do things results in massive sustained failure
It doesn't matter that John Mara owns 5%. What matters is that the Mara family owns 51%
They own 50%, not 51%. That means theoretically, the hope behind this topic is that Tisch tells the Maras to get out of personnel.
He doesn't know football, he probably doesn't care about football. He's in it for the money and the social perks. And he makes as much money whether the team wins or loses. But as far as him stepping in, go back to 'he doesn't know football" so why would anyone be hopeful of him making a meaningful contribution?
That's fine. That's exactly how business works. Guys like Tisch buy stuff and they hire qualified people to run them. I just took a quick look at his holdings and it looks like he hired an energy guy to run the energy business he bought.
Hire a qualified CEO. John Mara is the CEO because it's a hereditary position. Not because he's qualified. The Giants could actually have a proper CEO. Other teams do this. Sustained massive failure starts at the top. John Mara owns less than 5% of the Giants. He does not have any legal right to be the CEO. It's just the way the Giants like to do things. Turns out that the way the Giants like to do things results in massive sustained failure
It doesn't matter that John Mara owns 5%. What matters is that the Mara family owns 51%
The Mara's don't own 51%. They own 50%.
The Maras do have some rights to over power the Tisch
But not every negotiation comes down to the terms of the contract. There are plenty of things that Tisch could do, if he wanted to, that would influence how the franchise is run.
He doesn't know football, he probably doesn't care about football. He's in it for the money and the social perks. And he makes as much money whether the team wins or loses. But as far as him stepping in, go back to 'he doesn't know football" so why would anyone be hopeful of him making a meaningful contribution?
That's fine. That's exactly how business works. Guys like Tisch buy stuff and they hire qualified people to run them. I just took a quick look at his holdings and it looks like he hired an energy guy to run the energy business he bought.
Hire a qualified CEO. John Mara is the CEO because it's a hereditary position. Not because he's qualified. The Giants could actually have a proper CEO. Other teams do this. Sustained massive failure starts at the top. John Mara owns less than 5% of the Giants. He does not have any legal right to be the CEO. It's just the way the Giants like to do things. Turns out that the way the Giants like to do things results in massive sustained failure
It doesn't matter that John Mara owns 5%. What matters is that the Mara family owns 51%
They own 50%, not 51%. That means theoretically, the hope behind this topic is that Tisch tells the Maras to get out of personnel.
My bad about the %'s, but I still don't know that Tisch has the power or the desire to keep John from running the team
He doesn't know football, he probably doesn't care about football. He's in it for the money and the social perks. And he makes as much money whether the team wins or loses. But as far as him stepping in, go back to 'he doesn't know football" so why would anyone be hopeful of him making a meaningful contribution?
Are we sure Mara knows anything about football? Tisch should put his foot down and demand real changes this offseason. Force the Mara’s to hire an executive with final say on all personnel matters. Let the Mara’s handle business and marketing ops.
just about everything. Outside GM, outside coach. It takes a few years to build a team unless you spend bigly on overpaid FA's. The team is young, and the drafts under Shoen have been mediocre at best. Plus bad luck with injuries.
he needs to be invovled in the hiring process.
much more.
He might not know about football. But, he sees what is on the field is not working.
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He doesn't know football, he probably doesn't care about football. He's in it for the money and the social perks. And he makes as much money whether the team wins or loses. But as far as him stepping in, go back to 'he doesn't know football" so why would anyone be hopeful of him making a meaningful contribution?
He might not know about football. But, he sees what is on the field is not working.
Of course he sees it. He just doesn't have any level of competence to fix it, assuming that it keeps him up at night.
He is part of the problem imv.
I’m grasping at straws here. We need changes and getting rid of the coach and G.M. Isn’t going to change much.
The only thing that will get his attention is the Golden Goose dying, and the way the NFL is set up there's a next to zero chance of that happening. Regardless, his only solution is changing the people he hires. The real solution is getting rid of him and his family, which is not a step he'll take. The Giants' franchise has come down an incompetent Mara shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Neither does Mara but that never stops him.
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He doesn't know football, he probably doesn't care about football. He's in it for the money and the social perks. And he makes as much money whether the team wins or loses. But as far as him stepping in, go back to 'he doesn't know football" so why would anyone be hopeful of him making a meaningful contribution?
Neither does Mara but that never stops him.
yeah, but Mara doesn't know that he doesn't know anything. He's got 3 generations of "football people" that let him think otherwise.
Mara cares a great deal about the team. He just continues to think that he's the solution rather than the problem.
That's fine. That's exactly how business works. Guys like Tisch buy stuff and they hire qualified people to run them. I just took a quick look at his holdings and it looks like he hired an energy guy to run the energy business he bought.
Hire a qualified CEO. John Mara is the CEO because it's a hereditary position. Not because he's qualified. The Giants could actually have a proper CEO. Other teams do this. Sustained massive failure starts at the top. John Mara owns less than 5% of the Giants. He does not have any legal right to be the CEO. It's just the way the Giants like to do things. Turns out that the way the Giants like to do things results in massive sustained failure
This. He’s an another nepo baby. He and the Mara’s have one quality that has helped them. Won a D A lottery. I wouldn’t let either run a lemonade stand
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He doesn't know football, he probably doesn't care about football. He's in it for the money and the social perks. And he makes as much money whether the team wins or loses. But as far as him stepping in, go back to 'he doesn't know football" so why would anyone be hopeful of him making a meaningful contribution?
That's fine. That's exactly how business works. Guys like Tisch buy stuff and they hire qualified people to run them. I just took a quick look at his holdings and it looks like he hired an energy guy to run the energy business he bought.
Hire a qualified CEO. John Mara is the CEO because it's a hereditary position. Not because he's qualified. The Giants could actually have a proper CEO. Other teams do this. Sustained massive failure starts at the top. John Mara owns less than 5% of the Giants. He does not have any legal right to be the CEO. It's just the way the Giants like to do things. Turns out that the way the Giants like to do things results in massive sustained failure
It doesn't matter that John Mara owns 5%. What matters is that the Mara family owns 51%
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He doesn't know football, he probably doesn't care about football. He's in it for the money and the social perks. And he makes as much money whether the team wins or loses. But as far as him stepping in, go back to 'he doesn't know football" so why would anyone be hopeful of him making a meaningful contribution?
That's fine. That's exactly how business works. Guys like Tisch buy stuff and they hire qualified people to run them. I just took a quick look at his holdings and it looks like he hired an energy guy to run the energy business he bought.
Hire a qualified CEO. John Mara is the CEO because it's a hereditary position. Not because he's qualified. The Giants could actually have a proper CEO. Other teams do this. Sustained massive failure starts at the top. John Mara owns less than 5% of the Giants. He does not have any legal right to be the CEO. It's just the way the Giants like to do things. Turns out that the way the Giants like to do things results in massive sustained failure
It doesn't matter that John Mara owns 5%. What matters is that the Mara family owns 51%
They own 50%, not 51%. That means theoretically, the hope behind this topic is that Tisch tells the Maras to get out of personnel.
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In comment 16654769 Bill in UT said:
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He doesn't know football, he probably doesn't care about football. He's in it for the money and the social perks. And he makes as much money whether the team wins or loses. But as far as him stepping in, go back to 'he doesn't know football" so why would anyone be hopeful of him making a meaningful contribution?
That's fine. That's exactly how business works. Guys like Tisch buy stuff and they hire qualified people to run them. I just took a quick look at his holdings and it looks like he hired an energy guy to run the energy business he bought.
Hire a qualified CEO. John Mara is the CEO because it's a hereditary position. Not because he's qualified. The Giants could actually have a proper CEO. Other teams do this. Sustained massive failure starts at the top. John Mara owns less than 5% of the Giants. He does not have any legal right to be the CEO. It's just the way the Giants like to do things. Turns out that the way the Giants like to do things results in massive sustained failure
It doesn't matter that John Mara owns 5%. What matters is that the Mara family owns 51%
The Mara's don't own 51%. They own 50%.
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In comment 16654879 Jerry in_DC said:
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In comment 16654769 Bill in UT said:
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He doesn't know football, he probably doesn't care about football. He's in it for the money and the social perks. And he makes as much money whether the team wins or loses. But as far as him stepping in, go back to 'he doesn't know football" so why would anyone be hopeful of him making a meaningful contribution?
That's fine. That's exactly how business works. Guys like Tisch buy stuff and they hire qualified people to run them. I just took a quick look at his holdings and it looks like he hired an energy guy to run the energy business he bought.
Hire a qualified CEO. John Mara is the CEO because it's a hereditary position. Not because he's qualified. The Giants could actually have a proper CEO. Other teams do this. Sustained massive failure starts at the top. John Mara owns less than 5% of the Giants. He does not have any legal right to be the CEO. It's just the way the Giants like to do things. Turns out that the way the Giants like to do things results in massive sustained failure
It doesn't matter that John Mara owns 5%. What matters is that the Mara family owns 51%
They own 50%, not 51%. That means theoretically, the hope behind this topic is that Tisch tells the Maras to get out of personnel.
My bad about the %'s, but I still don't know that Tisch has the power or the desire to keep John from running the team
Are we sure Mara knows anything about football? Tisch should put his foot down and demand real changes this offseason. Force the Mara’s to hire an executive with final say on all personnel matters. Let the Mara’s handle business and marketing ops.