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Thank you both for this! I was on a trip in Dallas/Austin last week and being able to listen to the pod really was great. Depressing content yes, but at least validating to what I am seeing as well. LOL.

Stop watching the games!

For my drive to work lol

Last week I told my wife this is therapy for this long time Giants fan.

Today it is the realization that we need immediate change and it has to be someone who can pull this organization out of the ground and place it back on firm footing.

Thank you Guys!!!

Is this a NSFW podcast?

In comment 16657004 M.S. said:

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Stop watching the games!

I already have. If they win, I watch the extended highlights on the computer that night. If they win two games in a row, I'll watch the next game on TV live.

Not holding my breath ...

This Jones conversation feels like it should have happened in 2021. He missed the final 6 games with a bad neck. New regime came in who declined his 5th year option. He could have been traded for a conditional late draft pick. Clean slate.

The Giants will move off Jones after this year, but it's way too late. And it'll cost Schoen & Daboll their jobs. Never proactive, always reactive.

Especially with Yankees in the WS
Giants 7 games into the season a non-factor

I never called Wan’dale a bust. Just said that he is JAG. Hyatt on the other hand is a bust.

2 things:

1) No brews?

2) Eric taking about Giants being relegated had me laughing.

I should totally have an Octoberfest in my hand.

Great job guys. I'm about a half hour in and it has been a great listen so far.

Just benching Jones might get both sides of the ball more motivated

In comment 16657031 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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2 things: 1) No brews? 2) Eric taking about Giants being relegated had me laughing.

Oh I'm drinking. I have to at this point.

In comment 16657019 Tittle 9 20 64 said:

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Is this a NSFW podcast?

I don't think it was too bad.

I thought it would be more like this...


https://x.com/BigBlueInter/status/1848418174523609236 - ( New Window )

What a fucking disaster this franchise is.

In comment 16657004 M.S. said:

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Stop watching the games!

More importantly, stop going to the games!

or stop watching the games yourself, why not just do that vs. woe is me, goodbye cruel world, etc.?

I see this team with significantly more talent and has been competitive in most games, with still some glaring holes.

Not satisfied with where team is but not going to overreact to this game. Vikes and Bengals (despite their record) are playoff quality teams.

Biggest issue is the offense - is that Jones, Thomas injury/Ezudu at LT, Daboll's playcalling? Don't know.

Is Vrabel a possible replacement? I would not think so unless he can bring in a can't miss OC. He also wore out his welcome with GM. Based on reports he may have started taking on BB type attitude w/o the Lombardis. BB an option - no one more qualified, but he could walk away at a moment's notice. Pete Carroll.

Gonna watch every game I can and try and see if I can figure out the stuff I don't know. This week will be a very good test to see if they can generate any offense against a good defense. Is there a change coming at LT? And we'll see what film room, dog cussing, and gut check can do for the defense that embarrassed themselves last week.

with owner. It wasn't the W&Ls.

Was being told to leave DJ in by ownership. It HAS to be the case, after all the discussion on this podcast, it explains it all. Eric's right, the old saying "it can be worse" doesn't apply here. It can't be worse, but it could suck just as badly. Let's find out.

If you keep trotting DJ out there

Why he passed so much more than ran in the first half of the last two games?

In comment 16657275 jeff57 said:

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Why he passed so much more than ran in the first half of the last two games?

He'll say something like "that's what we felt gave us the best chance to win".

Even though it didn't work at all, making it clearly a bad strategy.

In comment 16657270 GoDeep13 said:

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If you keep trotting DJ out there

You absolutely can. Banks doesn't get decided who the QB is and then decide how much effort he plays with..

In comment 16657270 GoDeep13 said:

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If you keep trotting DJ out there

There is weight in this. You watch Jones struggle weekly to do his job and face no recourse your going to get worse efforts from other players.

This is how Daboll loses the team.

Stop digging in. Jones is toast. Hold him accountable and then you can hold the rest of the team to the same standard.

But at this point, I can't get motivated to give it a listen. Get us a real QB is all that I care about. You add in a good QB who challenges defenses in the vertical game, and this would look like a whole different team. But when everyone knows they're just buying their time, you aren't going to see the energy you need to compete, from anyone. Defense knows they need to stop them over and over again because the offense doesn't score any point. The wide receivers know if they get open down field, the QB either won't throw it to them, or will throw a bad bass. Underneath and in the running game, they know they're going to get hit right away because the defense doesn't have to take the deep 3rd of the field seriously.

So why aren't they making a switch at QB? I can think of several viable reasons, but does it really matter? I'm not going to sit here and put my emotions into this team week after week and the more the losses the better.

In comment 16657377 UberAlias said:

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But at this point, I can't get motivated to give it a listen. Get us a real QB is all that I care about. You add in a good QB who challenges defenses in the vertical game, and this would look like a whole different team. But when everyone knows they're just buying their time, you aren't going to see the energy you need to compete, from anyone. Defense knows they need to stop them over and over again because the offense doesn't score any point. The wide receivers know if they get open down field, the QB either won't throw it to them, or will throw a bad bass. Underneath and in the running game, they know they're going to get hit right away because the defense doesn't have to take the deep 3rd of the field seriously. So why aren't they making a switch at QB? I can think of several viable reasons, but does it really matter? I'm not going to sit here and put my emotions into this team week after week and the more the losses the better.

appreciate the honesty but in order for us to be doing this when things turn we gotta still be around. It helps to have listens, views to get guests, media stuff and quite honestly get some real cred.

BTW- I know media folks actually listen and watch us..

I may get around to listening eventually. It's just that the details have all lost importance. The knowledge that nothing is going to get better until they address the QB position has left me indifferent about most else at this point.

The 1.2 yards-per-pass statistic is horrifying.

In comment 16657304 jvm52106 said:

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In comment 16657270 GoDeep13 said: Quote: If you keep trotting DJ out there You absolutely can. Banks doesn't get decided who the QB is and then decide how much effort he plays with..

If you show there are no consequences for pass poor play, why should he bust his butt?(I understand it's what he's paid too do, but DJ is also paid to throw TDs and win games. He's also being paid much more handsomely to suck at his job than everyone else on the team).

Like Eric and John said, the minute Daniel Jones runs onto the field the team seems almost INSTANTLY deflated. One he has his first bad play, everyone groans. No one wants to watch Daniel Jones play football.

In comment 16657436 Gap92 said:

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The 1.2 yards-per-pass statistic is horrifying.

I thought it was a typo. It isn't.

EVER! This sucks the big weenie.

I don't watch the Giants. I don't even watch the rest of the NFL either, since my team is in some sort of different irrelevant league.

If things perk up and Eric and John say there is something worth watching, I can stream the delayed games. Otherwise, I have other interests and see no reason to get the life sucked out of me, for what, entertainment?

I give money to BBI to do my part to keep the great content going. I hate all the negativisms and told you so bs on BBI, but the site is a treasure and I'll do my part.

I listen to the podcasts and like and subscribe, that is my civic duty, but it is not like there is a real reason ... there are only so many ways to describe specifically why we suck.

Boy.

In comment 16657004 M.S. said:

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Stop watching the games!

When they pry the remote from my cold dead hand!

In comment 16657377 UberAlias said:

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But at this point, I can't get motivated to give it a listen. Get us a real QB is all that I care about. You add in a good QB who challenges defenses in the vertical game, and this would look like a whole different team. But when everyone knows they're just buying their time, you aren't going to see the energy you need to compete, from anyone. Defense knows they need to stop them over and over again because the offense doesn't score any point. The wide receivers know if they get open down field, the QB either won't throw it to them, or will throw a bad bass. Underneath and in the running game, they know they're going to get hit right away because the defense doesn't have to take the deep 3rd of the field seriously. So why aren't they making a switch at QB? I can think of several viable reasons, but does it really matter? I'm not going to sit here and put my emotions into this team week after week and the more the losses the better.

Sure, the Titanic sunk and all, boo-hoo, but the film is still revered for all time.

I mean, you jump, I jump, am I right?

In comment 16657275 jeff57 said:

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Why he passed so much more than ran in the first half of the last two games?

Can't we leave Ozempic-boy alone already?
Hasn't he been sliced and diced, cut and dried, roasted, toasted, fileted and vetted?

I say , enough!

In comment 16657383 jvm52106 said:

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... when things turn (sic) around...

John, some of us are getting on in years, so this turn around, we hope it comes along sooner rather than later...

Yes, we were young, and our hearts were an open book, in '81, so yes, we were a spoiled lot...

But the hooks went in deep, and now the twilight of our years is necessarily tinged with sorrow.

So let's all row in the same direction and get this back on track!

Antonio Pierce.

In comment 16657383 jvm52106 said:

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In comment 16657377 UberAlias said: Quote: But at this point, I can't get motivated to give it a listen. Get us a real QB is all that I care about. You add in a good QB who challenges defenses in the vertical game, and this would look like a whole different team. But when everyone knows they're just buying their time, you aren't going to see the energy you need to compete, from anyone. Defense knows they need to stop them over and over again because the offense doesn't score any point. The wide receivers know if they get open down field, the QB either won't throw it to them, or will throw a bad bass. Underneath and in the running game, they know they're going to get hit right away because the defense doesn't have to take the deep 3rd of the field seriously. So why aren't they making a switch at QB? I can think of several viable reasons, but does it really matter? I'm not going to sit here and put my emotions into this team week after week and the more the losses the better. appreciate the honesty but in order for us to be doing this when things turn we gotta still be around. It helps to have listens, views to get guests, media stuff and quite honestly get some real cred. BTW- I know media folks actually listen and watch us..

'When things turn around?' John, I know you have 9 children. Maybe one of your grandchildren will be hosting 'Inside BBI' in 2148 or so 'when things turn around', Haha.

recap of the Eagles game next week!

this is just a football team. It really is NOT important. If you are allowing this team to wreck your ability to go about your day, then you need some help.

I am watching these games with apathy.

draft a QB next year, and develop the kid. I was screaming for Allen and was amazed that DG was dumb enough to think Eli had anything left and so drafted a RB. Even this past draft, I would have been happy if Schoen had drafted Nix and passed on Nabors. This team does not need to be blown up. It needs a QB who can see the field and has a quick release. The other missing parts will come.

Eric reading Kelly's post comparing the Giants to the Titanic

Some irony to add:
Thomas Andrews designed the ship that sank
Losing Andrew Thomas is going to sink the Giants

They take precedence over just about everything besides WIP after an Eagles' loss so number one this week.

In comment 16657326 Dankbeerman said:

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In comment 16657270 GoDeep13 said: Quote: If you keep trotting DJ out there There is weight in this. You watch Jones struggle weekly to do his job and face no recourse your going to get worse efforts from other players. This is how Daboll loses the team. Stop digging in. Jones is toast. Hold him accountable and then you can hold the rest of the team to the same standard.

Except it’s 2 totally different scenarios (and to be clear I’m in favor of benching jones). Jones is playing hard there’s no question about that, he just isn’t good. Banks is not giving effort- totally different thing to hold one accountable for.

Analogy

In comment 16657270 GoDeep13 said:

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If you keep trotting DJ out there

I get what you’re saying, but this isn’t pee wee ball. They are paid to do their job. What if Banks had laid out Hurts and he fumbled for a return TD? Defenses have won championships. See 2002 Tampa Bay, 2000 Baltimore. Their QBs were a bit better than Jones but not by much.

You hold all players accountable. Just because they don’t throw the ball doesn’t mean they can’t win a game single handedly. Or create the spark that ignites a rally, etc…