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Is Chatman an unsung hero?

Now Mike in MD : 10/23/2024 12:30 pm
Unlike Wink, who ran all kinds of crazy exotic blitzes, Bowen is getting pressure the vast majority of time just running stunts.

Chatman has really been one of the keys to the success with those stunts. He is so unbelievably quick for a DT that he does a great job of getting upfield and occupying the OG/OC and freeing up the rusher (usually Dex) on the stunt.

So while he's not getting the sacks himself, he deserves a good deal of credit for the success we've had rushing the QB and Bowen deserves a lot of credit in identifying and utilizing Chatman's unique skill set.


I would like to see him at defensive end  
kelly : 10/23/2024 12:31 pm : link
His size and speed might work well there.
i don't see it  
Giantsfan79 : 10/23/2024 12:47 pm : link
My eyes and Sy's reviews both say he has issues getting off blocks and he's not generating enough pressure despite single blocking match-ups while Dex is getting triple teamed.

He was undrafted for a reason
RE: i don't see it  
bluewave : 10/23/2024 12:58 pm : link
In comment 16658467 Giantsfan79 said:
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My eyes and Sy's reviews both say he has issues getting off blocks and he's not generating enough pressure despite single blocking match-ups while Dex is getting triple teamed.

He was undrafted for a reason


He does not have the size or length to hold up. He can stunt and maybe cause a little disruption sure but that's why when Dex goes out everything goes to shit.
RE: RE: i don't see it  
AcidTest : 10/23/2024 1:42 pm : link
In comment 16658485 bluewave said:
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In comment 16658467 Giantsfan79 said:


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My eyes and Sy's reviews both say he has issues getting off blocks and he's not generating enough pressure despite single blocking match-ups while Dex is getting triple teamed.

He was undrafted for a reason



He does not have the size or length to hold up. He can stunt and maybe cause a little disruption sure but that's why when Dex goes out everything goes to shit.


Agreed.
short yardage  
floridafan : 10/23/2024 1:43 pm : link
Make him a lead blocker, that's a load
LOL no, he’s not an unsung hero.  
DeVito32 : 10/23/2024 3:04 pm : link
He has a lot to learn. He has flashes but that’s it. He doesn’t have size or length. What he does have is strength, speed and a motor. He needs a ton of work with leverage, hands, counter moves, technique. If he can learn all those things he can be a solid rotational player. But he has a very long way to go.
Unsung hero  
Now Mike in MD : 10/23/2024 3:11 pm : link
was probably hyperbolic. However, if you look at the rushing success, he makes big contributions on the stunts. He often completely takes the OGs out with his speed and opens up rushing lanes for Dex.

Is he a full time player, no?

I'm just saying he makes solid contributions that sometimes don't show up on the stat sheet
People fell in love  
k2tampa : 10/23/2024 3:41 pm : link
with him because of one play in the preseason. And many want to believe the Giants have uncovered another Aaron Donald. He wasn't an impact player in college and there is no reason to think he will be at this level. Is he a contributor at DT for the Giants in spots? Maybe, but that isn't saying much. The Giants liked him better than Phillips. Again, not a ringing endorsement. He is not the answer for a DT to play next to Lawrence.
RE: short yardage  
Giantsfan79 : 10/23/2024 3:50 pm : link
In comment 16658536 floridafan said:
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Make him a lead blocker, that's a load


a) I don't know that a 278lb dt trying to block d-lineman or LBs is that much of a load

b) I think he can have a role as a DT but I think he's better suited to be a 3rd down/obvious passing situations player as opposed to an everydown player.
He will be out  
Gman11 : 10/23/2024 5:12 pm : link
of the league or on somebody's practice squad in a year or two
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