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Carl Banks on Giants ownership via Twitter/X.

SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/23/2024 7:23 pm
Jay
@theoverrule
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Replying to @CarlBanksGIII
In conclusion, it often feels like you try to act as a shield for the organization. You're hugely respected by the vast majority of the fan base (if not all of it) and you know that, which means your word has great influence.

Carl Banks
@CarlBanksGIII
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Jay. I sincerely appreciate your note. I try to give fair and appropriate critiques of all #nyg performances. I will not play into the carnivorous appetites of those who want me to tear a player down recklessly. That is not who I am, and as someone who has been in their shoea


Carl Banks
@CarlBanksGIII
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I don't "shield" ownership. I don't need to. I do believe that the basis of much criticism is inaccurate and illinformed. I won't get into Chris & Tim Mac qualifications, but I encourage all to research them, starting from when they were both ball boys.
Carl Banks
@CarlBanksGIII
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There are many issues fans can have with the organization, but ownership isn't one of them. It's not a shield it's a fact. Ask all who have played and not currently employed by the organization. #respect
Carl Banks
@CarlBanksGIII
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@CarlBanksGIII
I respect the job that they have but also know that they know my critiques are valid on point and ultimately respected.

Regarding ownership:
You will have to search far&wide to find anyone who has played for this organization to have a bad thing to say about ownership

'I won't get into Chris & Tim Mac qualifications'...LOL. Perhaps because neither the brother or The Nephew have any? Also, Carl having a nickname for The Nephew speaks volumes, as nicknames are usually reserved for someone you're close with.

Don't ever change Carl! Keep parroting the company line!
So what they were ball boys  
LauderdaleMatty : 10/23/2024 7:31 pm : link
I love Banks but this team’s player personnel dept has been about the worst in the NFL since about halfway into Reese’s tenure. The one constant has be the nepo babies.
Dead On  
jwb50 : 10/23/2024 7:33 pm : link
And Banks gave the company line right after the game on Giant Post game Team has good NFL players have to play harder”
He and Papa losing all credibility… shills
Carl Banks was a great team player  
kelly : 10/23/2024 7:43 pm : link
As such I would not expect him to sling mud at the organization nor would I want him too.
RE: So what they were ball boys  
rsjem1979 : 10/23/2024 7:45 pm : link
In comment 16658822 LauderdaleMatty said:
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I love Banks but this team’s player personnel dept has been about the worst in the NFL since about halfway into Reese’s tenure. The one constant has be the nepo babies.


What a coincidence that the only guys who worked their way up from ball boy to the highest level of the player personnel department happened to be Maras. Quite a success story.
Put Tim Mac  
GiantTuff1 : 10/23/2024 7:50 pm : link
in as GM then. Sink or swim on your merit and put your name on it.
No one who receives a paycheck from a person or family  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/23/2024 7:51 pm : link
Should be expected to be freely critical.

Carl might believe that he is, but he's also likely personal friends with many of the family and they've been signing his checks since he was a 20-something rookie. He's 50 years old now.
hard to find ownership  
Enzo : 10/23/2024 8:11 pm : link
that has a worse track record on big decisions/hires.
Can someone ask...  
bw in dc : 10/23/2024 8:13 pm : link
Carl to post a paycheck - redacted routing #, account # - that shows who signs it, please?
Everybody knows Banks was a Great plsyer  
jwb50 : 10/23/2024 8:14 pm : link
On Giants payroll
Jeezus man  
BigBlueShock : 10/23/2024 8:22 pm : link
I usually try to stay away from destroying Carl Banks but “from the time they were ball boys”? Seriously? There are a ton of under privileged kids out there that would LOVE to be ball boys for an NFL team. But I guess in Carls mind some privileged kids born on 3rd base to a rich family having to start at the bottom as ball boys when they are children is commendable. wtf? Is this serious?
You guys are too critical!  
Mike from SI : 10/23/2024 8:35 pm : link
I think it's a very happy coincidence that the only two kids in the world who got a shot as ball boys, also happened to be so good that they worked their way up all the way through the corporate ladder. I'm sure all their reviews were very fair and no one ever took into account their relations and part/future ownership of the team. If anything, their bosses were probably too harsh on them! What an inspiring success story. This is quintessential American Dream Stuff and you are all too jaded to recognize it as such.
RE: hard to find ownership  
section125 : 10/23/2024 8:36 pm : link
In comment 16658841 Enzo said:
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that has a worse track record on big decisions/hires.


Bullshit. It isn't hard at all. Just look across to the other home locker room. Far worse.

It is idiotic comments like this that that give BBI a black eye.
Mara meddling. Who has proof of this? That's what CB is talking about  
WestCoastGMan : 10/23/2024 8:39 pm : link
As far as I know, most Giants have nice things to day about ownership. Nice facility, good benefits and a cafe. The team may suck, but Mara is in charge of above and hiring good GMs and signing off on GM coach choices. He may have had some influence on giving Eli a good send off, but thats the right thing to do. Otherwise, the meme of him doing Jerry Jones type meddling on the roster. Who has proof of this?
Bottom line  
jwb50 : 10/23/2024 8:43 pm : link
Team has sucked for over 10 years. Carl can spin it anyway he wants to.
Love Carl, but if he can’t see that the very idea  
Section331 : 10/23/2024 9:27 pm : link
that 2 guys are involved in personnel and report to the GM, but are also owners who the GM reports to, then I’m not sure he’s the guy who should be pontificating about this.
RE: Mara meddling. Who has proof of this? That's what CB is talking about  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/23/2024 9:28 pm : link
In comment 16658861 WestCoastGMan said:
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As far as I know, most Giants have nice things to day about ownership. Nice facility, good benefits and a cafe. The team may suck, but Mara is in charge of above and hiring good GMs and signing off on GM coach choices. He may have had some influence on giving Eli a good send off, but thats the right thing to do. Otherwise, the meme of him doing Jerry Jones type meddling on the roster. Who has proof of this?


To be honest, the only proof you have of Jerry doing it is that he will tell you he does it and doesn't care who knows, so everyone else readily confirms it. If he didn't want it known, it would be a more guarded thing.
RE: Put Tim Mac  
BillT : 10/23/2024 9:42 pm : link
In comment 16658835 GiantTuff1 said:
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in as GM then. Sink or swim on your merit and put your name on it.

He’s going to be the next President not the next GM.
Carl giving a completely irrelevant perspective about their qualities  
BestFeature : 10/23/2024 10:03 pm : link
as people. Great, they treated you well. Who gives a fuck win some fucking games.
They are,....  
thrunthrublue : 10/23/2024 10:46 pm : link
what their record says they are, and have been, for 10 plus years of irrelevance by mid October. If the giants were to just hire the first 53 fans that show up for every home game, pay each fan a thousand bucks for that game...their overall record would be very similar (all losses) that it is now and Mr. Mara would be millions of dollars wealthier.
Pat Hanlon  
SirLoinOfBeef : 10/23/2024 11:56 pm : link
Bob Papa
Paul Dottino
Carl Banks
Ralph Vacchiano

Mara Propaganda machine.



BBI  
BleedBlue : 10/24/2024 2:24 am : link
Is a weird place. Everyone has conspiracy theories that he involves himself in decisions

1. Many owners I’m sure do

2. It’s not just his fault we are where we are. Add a real qb and things are going to change.
Reality is jones has regressed and he continues to miss open throws and easy reads.

New qb come April so get ready.
RE: BBI  
Jersey Heel : 10/24/2024 6:22 am : link
In comment 16658980 BleedBlue said:
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Is a weird place. Everyone has conspiracy theories that he involves himself in decisions

1. Many owners I’m sure do

2. It’s not just his fault we are where we are. Add a real qb and things are going to change.
Reality is jones has regressed and he continues to miss open throws and easy reads.

New qb come April so get ready.

Were we randomly assigned Danny Jones by some league mandate? You act like he’s not here because of the Giant’s front office.
RE: BBI  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/24/2024 6:29 am : link
In comment 16658980 BleedBlue said:
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Is a weird place. Everyone has conspiracy theories that he involves himself in decisions

1. Many owners I’m sure do

2. It’s not just his fault we are where we are. Add a real qb and things are going to change.
Reality is jones has regressed and he continues to miss open throws and easy reads.

New qb come April so get ready.


Yeah, but it is his fault that we're in year six with Jones.
Let's assume somehow they legitimately earned their positions.  
FStubbs : 10/24/2024 7:48 am : link
The record since Chris Mara promoted himself speaks for itself - the Giants almost immediately collapsed and have sucked ever since, with the exception of a free agent fueled year in 2016 and Daboll's first 7 games in 2022.

We've blamed and removed everyone else involved in the losing - when do Chris Mara and Tim Mac remove themselves?

But honestly I'm coming around to the idea that even they are just symptoms. John is the problem.
If your the boss who hires the GMs  
SirLoinOfBeef : 10/24/2024 9:32 am : link
who makes the bad picks and hires the bad HCs, then you're the ultimate issue.

It cannot be stated enough that John Mara absolutely needs to step away from any and all football decisions.

Period.

RE: Mara meddling. Who has proof of this? That's what CB is talking about  
4xchamps : 10/24/2024 10:27 am : link
In comment 16658861 WestCoastGMan said:
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As far as I know, most Giants have nice things to day about ownership. Nice facility, good benefits and a cafe. The team may suck, but Mara is in charge of above and hiring good GMs and signing off on GM coach choices. He may have had some influence on giving Eli a good send off, but thats the right thing to do. Otherwise, the meme of him doing Jerry Jones type meddling on the roster. Who has proof of this?


100% correct. This ass-fan base has made up this narrative so they have someone to blame...
RE: RE: Mara meddling. Who has proof of this? That's what CB is talking about  
Gatorade Dunk : 10/24/2024 11:31 am : link
In comment 16659144 4xchamps said:
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In comment 16658861 WestCoastGMan said:


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As far as I know, most Giants have nice things to day about ownership. Nice facility, good benefits and a cafe. The team may suck, but Mara is in charge of above and hiring good GMs and signing off on GM coach choices. He may have had some influence on giving Eli a good send off, but thats the right thing to do. Otherwise, the meme of him doing Jerry Jones type meddling on the roster. Who has proof of this?



100% correct. This ass-fan base has made up this narrative so they have someone to blame...

Is an ass-fan like an air-powered bidet? Or did you just put the hyphen in the wrong spot?
RE: BBI  
Section331 : 10/24/2024 12:26 pm : link
In comment 16658980 BleedBlue said:
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Is a weird place. Everyone has conspiracy theories that he involves himself in decisions

1. Many owners I’m sure do

2. It’s not just his fault we are where we are. Add a real qb and things are going to change.
Reality is jones has regressed and he continues to miss open throws and easy reads.

New qb come April so get ready.


That’s fine, I don’t disagree, but how many owners have family members strewn around the Personnel dept? That is the issue, 2 “personnel” guys who nominally report to the GM, but because they’re owners, the GM also reports to them. Even the appearance of a conflict of interest is bad.
It may be splitting hairs at the moment  
Skully88 : 10/24/2024 12:33 pm : link
But since 2022 Chris Mara has a Board of Directors position. Still with Player Personnel listed in the title but I don’t think a B of D position would fall under the GM.

But CM’s 2011 promotion under the GM was definitely nepotistic and that situation remains with McDonnell. I feel it’s patently unfair to a GM that he has someone on staff, in a Director’s position no less that he can’t fire or take repercussions over. But that’s just one man’s opinion.
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