It seems to me that Daniel Jones had his best success when he was running the football more regularly. He was a threat that teams had to prepare for and this opened the field up to do other things. Now it seems, after his injury, that his running has been restricted and the Giants offense has become too predictable. He is not a good pocket passer and I think the Giants should aggressively game plan to utilize his running skills. I understand that this will probably result in another injury but if you believe, as I do, that he is not the future QB for this team, then so what? What have we got to lose?
The only point I'm not sure about is how an injury effects his contract. Could someone explain that to me?
Jones running to open up the offense helps sometimes vs average or worse defenses. It's not a silver bullet for winning, that will arrive with a QB upgrade.
In 2022, DJ's responsibility was to cut the field in half (ignore the field side, read the boundary side), make a decision on his primary target, then take off running through the B gap if that target was covered.
Defenses got wise to that by the end of 2022, and it was openly exposed by Philly in the playoffs. Defenses stopped honoring the field side with the same coverage, and they took away the B gap as an escape route.
The designed runs are still in the offense, as far as I can tell. But the scrambles are less frequent, and those were like mini chunk plays in 2022. That's the part that's missing, and I think it has more to do with opposing defenses knowing that there's a pretty limited set of options for DJ when he drops back; it has less to do with his knee (or neck), IMO.
In 2022, DJ's responsibility was to cut the field in half (ignore the field side, read the boundary side), make a decision on his primary target, then take off running through the B gap if that target was covered.
Defenses got wise to that by the end of 2022, and it was openly exposed by Philly in the playoffs. Defenses stopped honoring the field side with the same coverage, and they took away the B gap as an escape route.
The designed runs are still in the offense, as far as I can tell. But the scrambles are less frequent, and those were like mini chunk plays in 2022. That's the part that's missing, and I think it has more to do with opposing defenses knowing that there's a pretty limited set of options for DJ when he drops back; it has less to do with his knee (or neck), IMO.
This is a really good answer/explanation.
Jones running to open up the offense helps sometimes vs average or worse defenses. It's not a silver bullet for winning, that will arrive with a QB upgrade.
Agreed, but I don't think teams care about how much Jones runs. They'll concede a few first downs because they know he's such an ineffective passer.
It's mind boggling to me that they would have him run so much given his injury history and what it could cost them in terms of the cap next year, namely an extra $23M if can't pass a physical.
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1) the injury guarantee (which the team doesn't seem concerned about, at this stage and 2) Jones doesn't look to be the same runner as pre-ACL, so far.
Jones running to open up the offense helps sometimes vs average or worse defenses. It's not a silver bullet for winning, that will arrive with a QB upgrade.
Agreed, but I don't think teams care about how much Jones runs. They'll concede a few first downs because they know he's such an ineffective passer.
It's mind boggling to me that they would have him run so much given his injury history and what it could cost them in terms of the cap next year, namely an extra $23M if can't pass a physical.
Agree with Gatorade & Acid, teams have enough tape on the RPO Giants used to run that they know how to stop it. Teams also aren't worried about DJ beating them by running and the Giants taking tthis risk is hard to understand.
2. The RB's are not as good as SB and D's adjusted.
3. They prepared to be a strong running team in 2022 (Tiki discussed this during the bye week).
4. BD's run schemes are questionable and he doesn't emphasize the run game. They prepared to be a heavy pass team this year.
In the 2022 7-2 start, the RB's averaged about 125y/g. This year it is 70.
People got sidetracked by a game against the Colts in 2022 where they were playing 2nd and 3rd stringers and street FAs on defense and being led by a part time preacher/analyst as interim head coach.
And they played a really bad Vikings defense in playoffs by a defensive coordinator (Ed Donatell) who essentially was forced into retirement it did such a bad job in key spots that game.
That leaves him protected by the same bookends that got him hurt multiple times last year.
He should be benched and the team should be protecting their longer-term interests.
This is the entire reason why our offense is terrible.
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or willingness to throw deep, so they crowd the LOS. That doesn’t help his running game.
This is the entire reason why our offense is terrible.
Add to this they don't really care about Singletary or Tracy, so its the plan is to close down the LOS, cover the favorite 5 yd routes, key on Jones rushing, and make him throw deeper (which never works)
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1) the injury guarantee (which the team doesn't seem concerned about, at this stage and 2) Jones doesn't look to be the same runner as pre-ACL, so far.
Jones running to open up the offense helps sometimes vs average or worse defenses. It's not a silver bullet for winning, that will arrive with a QB upgrade.
Agreed, but I don't think teams care about how much Jones runs. They'll concede a few first downs because they know he's such an ineffective passer.
It's mind boggling to me that they would have him run so much given his injury history and what it could cost them in terms of the cap next year, namely an extra $23M if can't pass a physical.
Yes it is. It tells you how awful they are on offense to have to put these plays in for such an ineffective passer.
Watching DJ play is painful for life long NYG fans.
True that.
Bite the bullet, no qb next draft, rebuild both lines,,,grab a big WR if you can.