OK, Who would you trade for Eli?

you Eli-hater, but that's a decent break down.

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1. Its comeplete fiction (that helps to make it funny)
2. It has some truth to it(Eli is a QB)
3. It belongs on ExtremeSkins.com (because it sucks)

Not an Eli hater. Disappointed in what I've seen with some concerns about where he is going but not a hater.

Vince Young would thrive in NYC spotlight, he however would never help us win a championship, as weve seen with Vick u need more then runing ability to win in this league as a QB and Vick has a better arm then Young

Right now, I would say yes to Romo, McNabb, Brees and of course your top 3...I would "chance" it with Young because of his legs...He's a playmaker...a half season or so is not enough to draw any negative conclusions about his throwing, imo...Agree about the "fence' with Bulger...Most definitely not Ben or Rivers...

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That's why I need to stop reading your posts, Methusaleh.

also reportedly has a tougher pitbull then Vince as well

did say they would trade Eli for Roethlisberger or Rivers, so you can add them to your group and that would be 9.

Personally for me, I would trade him for Peyton Manning, Brady or Palmer....that is it,

I would consider Brees or Bulger, but thats it for me.

And he did win a championship in college

I meant "basher"--my bad.

to get a better read on Eli IMO-if they stay healthy he's got a much better receiving corps to work with than he has had.

but I'll take Eli. I'm excited at the prospect that he may develop into a stellar QB. I believe he has the tools, brains and desire.

Not willing to put Cutler in any catagory at this time...He has played what 5 games...would need to see more of him before I take him over anyone let alone Eli.....Romo can kiss my A...The most over rated QB in the last 20 years...

we go trading we have to realize Tiki said he trade eli not b/c of ability but b/c of his leadership. So, if Eli decides to step up this yr and become more of a vocal leader Would tiki keep him then?

Let him play a full season before you put him in Canton.

If they were looking to trade for this year only, you could probably move some of those guys clearly ahead. Long term. I like what I saw Sunday, need to see more. Living in Upstate, I see Losman. He has the moxy Eli has been lacking. He can also throw a 70 yarder and hit his receiver in full stride. If he learns the game and gets an offensive line, he'll be someone to watch.

I am hopeful that Eli is learning to fire it in there, like on Smith's TD. His accuracy concerns me still. Michael Jennings had running room on that play, instead he was hung out to make an awkward catch, and popped an Achilles (though if that's all it took to get injured, it was likely going to happen sometime)

Yes, Romo...He can hurt you with his feet as well, has a nice touch on his ball and has been quite accurate in just, what, 8 games? Right now I see him as a more desirable QB than Eli...

But Eli is even farther away...

rhymes with...

Hideo Nomo..

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Isn't it amazing that for a young,fairly successful QB so far(48 td's last two seasons-nothing to scoff at)still developing with a much superior IMO receiving corps than he had people supposedly in the know want to tell you what Eli is not rather than look at his still developing game.This guy is so pigeonholed already for someone that is still developing it's absurd.

i forgot that when u win a college championship it guarantees success in the nfl. All im saying is a Vince Young style qb hasnt ever won a championship yet in the nfl.

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is i wouldn't trade Eli for Vince

I agree with the no brainers right now, Peyton, Palmer, Brady

I would not trade Eli for McNabb. McNabb is great, but part of being great is being healthy, and 4 of the last 5 years hes had a major injury, 3 of the last 5 years hes missed major time. His only real healthy season the last 5 years was in 2004. I wouldnt deal Eli for McNabb.

Brees- Career year last year, if you are asking me right now who is the better QB, the answer is Brees. But through a similar stage in their career, Eli blows Brees away. Ill take Eli's next 5 seasons over Brees next 5 seasons

Bulger is 4 years older, plays in a dome, I would not trade Eli for Bulger. Want to know how much those conditions and that turf help the Rams offense? Bulgers career on the road......... 34 TD 32 INT.

Hasselbeck is 32. No

Id take him over Ben

Rivers has only started 1 season, and the rest of the guys like Young, Leinart, Cutler, its simply too early.

I count 3 QBs who i would definitely trade him for. That doesnt mean hes the 4th best QB in the NFL right now, because he's not. But outside of the definite top 3 Ill take my chances with Eli's prime years vs the prime years of anyone else in the league outside of those 3

of an NFL team.

you Joe

Sunscreen shortage in AZ?

not forget there were a lot of Qbs who didn't start to impress until a few years into their career. Brees, Palmer (though he sat), Peyton (until his 3rd yr), Elway ect.. theres a lot more. Everyones different in their learning curve onto becoming a great qb.

Brees just completed his 3rd consecutive career year. Far from a 1 year guy. And ELi has blown him away in any area of the game or at any point in his career.

I would stick with Eli, it will pay off in the future I believe.

Let me put it this way, after Eli's 3rd season in the NFL, the Giants weren't looking to draft a QB to replace him. Brees couldnt hold Eli's jock through 3 years

that said Brees became a much better QB. Eli should too. The career trajectory path of QBs in the NFL, 95% of the guys dont see their best play within the first 2 1/2 years of their career.

A little early on Cutler maybe?

BB56---Wow..

Not a bad overview. Just me personally, I wouldn't take McNabb. I've always thought the guy was great (even when BBI didn't). It would have been a good move to draft him back in 1998. But with the age and injury factor I'd hesitate now. I've never been a Brees fan. I think he's been lucky first having Tomlinson and then catching lightning in a bottle in N.O. last year with Colston and a good coach. It wouldn't surprise me if he's already peaked. And Losman: good tools, but there just isn't much going on up there in Buffalo. I don't know why anyone would take him over Eli, he hasn't proved anything.

It proves nothing other than SD made a mistake by underestimating Brees. He was injuired also. Perhaps that was a factor.

Brees was on a far inferior team but matched ELi's play in the first 40+ starts.

Brees did not cost the Giants several draft picks and a huge cash deal of the #1 overall pick. Eli did. Much bigger commitment to Eli means Giants would not draft another QB high at this point.

Eli has been a slightly above avg starter. Nothing more. Brees was blown away by that? I disagree.

100% YES:
Tom Brady
Peyton Manning
Carson Palmer

Not 100%, but YES:
Drew Brees
Marc Bulger

Toss Up, I'd rank them Rivers, Eli, Ben, Smith, Leinart in that order right now
Philip Rivers
Ben Roethlisberger
Alex Smith
Matt Leinart

Maybe, all have potential, but I'd take Eli
J.P. Losman
Tony Romo
Vince Young

There are older guys like McNabb and Hasselbeck who might be better than Eli right now, but they're going to be entering the downside of their careers. I might have forgot a guy or two.

I wouldn't take Losman over Eli. However, Losman is a much better athlete. He can run and makes plays with his feet. And he has a better arm. His play skyrocketed last year. It wouldn't surprise me if he continued his strong play and moved into the top 10 in 07.

I'd put him in the group with Eli, Rivers, Ben, Smith, and Leinart.

Your going by 40 starts, which includes about 4 years for Brees and only 3 for Eli. After 3 seasons there is no real comparison. Its dwarfa-ge (cant write dwarfa-ge cause it contains F-A-G). And I agree Eli had more talent at WR and TE through 3 seasons then Brees, but Brees had a back who is possibly going to go down as the best ever, and the guy was catching 100 passes for Brees in his 3rd season and giving him about as good a running attack as the league had

Leinart did not show more than Cutler last year. Young too. Cutler was better than both. Will be much better than both this yr.

Take a look at his career outside of that dome and what youll find is a very average QB

Career at home: 61 TD 27 INT

Career on road: 34 TD 32 INT

That is simply WAYYYYYYY too much of a disparity to write off as some statistical abberattion

I forgot Cutler. I really like him. He's gotta chance to be a special player. I don't think I could say the same for Leinart. I've always loved Vince Young, but Cutler's better than him.

Brees was better as a first time starter. Brees was a 60% QB in yr 1. Eli 05 vs Brees 02? Edge to Brees. Injured in yr 2 on a 4 win team. Numbers dropped a bit. Back in foir 16 games in yr 3 and he took off.

Eli DID NOT blow him away.

rating Eli with Pennington. Right now, Pennington puts up better #'s. Jets fans would never make that trade. As a Giants fan, I wouldn't trade Eli for Pennington.

like everyone else Manning, Brady and Palmer are no brainers. I like Bulger also and would do that. I would probably also trade for Brees, Rivers, and maybe even Romo not because i think they are better QBs but because they fit into the offensive scheme that i would like to see us run. Smashmouth football with a QB that only manages the games and consistently make accurate throws. Losman and Cutler have to continue to demonstrate their ability for another year at least before they can factor into this. I wouldnt trade for either McNabb or Young because while they are great athletes and playmakers they are just not accurate passers.

Cowboys: Romo - No
Eagles: McNabb - Yes
Skins: Campbell - No
Bears: - Grossman - No
Lions: Kitna, Stanton - No
Packers: Favre, Rodgers - No
Vikings: Jackosn - No
Carolina: Delhomme, Carr - No
Atlanta: Vick, Harrington - No
New Orleans: Brees - Yes
Tampa Bay: Garcia, Simms, Gradkowski - No
Rams: Bulger - No
SF: Smith - No
Seattle: Hasselbeck - No
Arizona: Leinart - No
Jets: Pennington, Clemens - No
Pats: Brady - Yes
Miami: Green - No
Bills: Losman - No
Steelers: Big Ben - Very close. I'll say yes
Ravens: McNair, Boller - No
Browns: Quinn, Frye, Anderson - No
Bengals: Palmer - No
Titans: Young - No
Jaguars: Leftwich, Garrard - No
Texans: Schaub - No
Colts: Peyton - Yes
Broncos: Culter - close, but no
Chargers: Rivers - No
Raiders: Russell - No
Chiefs: Croyle - No

That is 5 QBs that get the yes. Does that mean Eli is the 6th best QB in the NFL? No. But the flashes of greatness and room for improvement are enough to keep him over all but 6 of the QBs listed.

Let's see mid season how well he's doing before anointing him elite. BTW, you have to look at durability in this analysis, therefore eliminating McNabb.

Interesting stats on Bulger. But he hasn't been as bad on the road as those numbers would suggest. He's got an 83.1 QB Rating and a 63.0 Comp% on the road for his career. Not as great as his awesome home averages, but still good.

Numbers dropped a bit is being very kind to Brees. 3rd year in the NFL, 2nd year as a starter, 11 TD passes, 15 interceptions

Those are numbers youd expect out of a rookie who was thrust into major action.

Pennington is a better QB right now. I forgot about him. Wouldn't trade him for Eli because of age and the arm problem. Probably the weakest arm in the NFL but he gets it done for that team.

or much at all at WR. Worst team in the league. Even with the drop in year 2 Eli did not blow him away. You guys always talk about surrounding talent. Well, Brees had nobody to catch the ball.

I gotta say anyone who watched the 2 Giants games vs the Boys last year and can still say they take Romo over Eli is Just a "moran"...Not that Eli played well against them its that Romo sucks.....TO, Glenn, Whitten, JJ, MB, Anyone who could throw over 40 yards and not stand there like a dead tree would look good in the O. Rivers...Um...Yeah...All I have to say is One player can make a group of players look really good...Enter L'D'T & Gates Ben....Yeah they expanded his role last year how did he look for the most part? Oh thats right everyone in Pit wanted Batch to be the starter...BATCH!!! Bulger....Dome...Bruce and Holt the WR's SJ at RB..Great...I mean Great OL.. Now lets look at Eli Had a Good RB..That liked to bash his coaches & team mates A WR that doesn't know how to Finnish a route. A good Vet WR that only played half the season...Top 3 TE that has been injured on and off for the past 4 years..an OK line that is more remembered for headbuts and false starts then blocking. Oh and Lets not forget the whole Huff was half a retard...Its first and goal form the 3 Give the F/N BALL TO YOUR 270 POUND BACK YOU RE"RE...ITS 3RD AND 20 WHY ARE YOU GIVING THE BALL TO YOUR 270 POUND BACK...YOUR YOUNG QB IS STRUGGLING WHY THE HELL ARE YOU THROWING ON EVERY PLAY!!!!...god I hated him Thats right I said it!!

Doug Flutie, at 41 years old was having more success with Brees with the same exact supporting cast then Brees had. I disagreee that Brees was as good as Eli through 3 seasons in the NFL

For those of you not taking McNabb, I would be curious to hear why. I saw an accuracy issue mentioned, which isn't true. He tends to miss some easy, short throws, but his deep ball is incredibly accurate. He had 1 legit WR in his career, and he went to the Super Bowl once and the NFC Championship other times with him. James Thrash and Todd Pinkston? C'mon. He won with those guys. McNabb healthy is a no-brainer for me.

He's a great QB, but he's injury-prone and old.

Drew Brees- 3rd NFL season

11 games, 57.6% completions, 11 TD 15 INT, 5.9 YPA QB rating 67.5

41 year old Doug Flutie

7 games, 54.5$ completions, 9 TD 4 INT, 6.6 YPA QB RATING 82.8

Im sorry, but through 3 seasons Drew Brees was not a pimple on the ass of Eli Manning.

Brees had a somewhat unusual development path but has played very well since 2004 and it looks like he will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. Eli likewise may turn out to be a QB with a somewhat unusual development path. So why does comparing what each of them did after a certain number of starts have any relevance to the question of which is a better long-term prospect?

You know that extrapolating linear results from prior history can be very fallacious, right?

always good, insightful if opinionated stuff from you. I like it!

agreed about McNabb's accuracy issues. They were severe early in his career but he has improved dramatically.

I think McNabb healthy is a top 5 QB in the NFL but McNabb healthy is not a player we see much of. Hes missed extensive time in 3 of the last 5 seasons, and in one of the 2 seasons where he played, he played with a broken thumb that severely effected his play (2003). Basically over the last half decade McNabb has had 1 full season where hes played well. And now hes over 30, coming off an ACL injury. I couldnt trade Eli for McNabb

Sure, Maybe Brees wasn't as good but surrounding talent was a factor. I just strongly disagree that Eli blows him away after 3 yrs. Sorry. Don't buy it. Brees clearly better in yr 1. Eli better in yr 2. Doesn't add up to blown away. Plus, Eli had the benefit of several starting games as a rookie.

With the same surrounding talent Doug Flutie at 41 years old ran circles around Brees

Go back in time and be EA for a second.

You have the potential to grab Manning, but it's going to cost you dearly. You know, though, that at worst Manning will be a top-5 QB in the league. At best, he could end up competing with his brother to be the #1 QB overall. Do you make the trade?

Honestly, based on potential, and knowing there's a low floor to the trade, I think I'll take the unpopular position and say I'd still make it (and that's despite the fact that I'm no fan of Accorsi).

because I believe we are far from seeing Eli's best football in the league, due to the fact that 90% of the QBs who have ever played (including Brees) don't play their best football within their first 3 seasons in the NFL. I believe Eli has a lot more room to improve, and hes doing it from what is already a pretty high floor.

Flutie's stats from that season are inferior to Brees (in terms of yards per attempt and completion %). And Brees was having a lousy season in 2003, which makes the relevance of a close examination of his performance that year of questionable value.

And I still don't understand the basic logic of this debate.

I agree with you about Eli still having a lot of potential but you're extrapolating in a mechanical way. This argument is basically irrelevant. Brees is a superior player right now but Giants fans can all hope that Eli one day becomes a better player. It could happen but it is uncertain.

I dont know where you learned how to read a stat sheet but where I live 6.6 (Flutie YPA) is higher then 5.9 (Brees YPA).

Secondly Fluties QB rating was 15 pts higher, he had a TD:INT ratio of better then 2:1 and Brees had a NEGATIVE TD:INT ratio. So on what planet are you doing to tell me Brees had a better year then flutie?

From what I understand is not the sharpest tack in the box. He would bomb big time in NY doing what Eli has been trying to do over the last few seasons. Yes he has a good arm and can run, but thinking of him over Eli right now is crazy.

agreed. BTW, I love the parameters of the debate (the upper and lower bounds of Eli's value) which have risen quite a bit since last season. That's to me more significant than the exact ranking Eli currently occupies.

I agree about McNabb's injury history. What I am saying in trading McNabb for Eli is that I am willing to mortgage a future because with Plax, Toomer, Smith, Moss, Shockey, and Jacobs surrounding McNabb I am confident the Giants are the best team in the NFC. That opportunity to win a Super Bowl is too good to pass up or me.

you're correct about 2003. Flutie's stats are better than Brees' for that season.

is higher on Cutler then I am. Get Eli some compentent coaching that doesn't try to put him the worst possible situation and He'll join that top five.

itself is kind of loaded. I mean saying that you won't trade Eli for someone doesn't mean Eli is better, it just means that he isn't worse. Of all the young qbs that have been named, would any fans of their teams be willing to trade them for Eli? Probably not. The Eli, Big Ben, Rivers debate will go on for the next 5 years. Only time will tell. Saying Eli is definitely better is absurd, as is saying he is definitely worse. Its way too soon to tell on the younger qbs. Nobody has any real idea what Romo, Smith, Cutler, Leinart, Young will be. The only qbs I am close to 100% confident are better than Eli right now are Peyton, Brady, Palmer, Brees, Bulger, and McNabb. After that its a big tossup. Eli might be the 7 best qb, he might be the 17th. No way to tell yet.

Does it really matter what Brees did years ago? Right now he's much better than Eli and shows no signs of regressing...We don't definitively know if Eli will ever ascend to where Brees is NOW...I would certainly take that...

At worst a top 5 QB? Nobody knew it in 04. And right now we sure don't know it.

If you go by sheer performance, not "potential" there is no way you can not take Brees over Eli. Eli's been a mid-range QB, inconsistent esp. over the 2nd half of the year. He's done it with weapons like Shockey, Tiki, Plax and Toomer, a nice package of guys to work with. So, if you want to talk about what Eli MIGHT become, then you have to allow for what other QBs that also have good years MIGHT become. In Dallas, they would certainly say Romo might become better or at least as good as Eli, and they'd have a good case based on performance.

If you go by value, you'd have to put in anyone who has performed as good as Eli or better and done so for cheaper, which would be Rivers and Ben (system QB or not, BR has a Trophy which is what it's all about, and most people would give him the intangibles as Tiki did).

Based on performance and/or value, I think Eli falls middle of the pack, which means it is not unreasonable that you could find 10 QBs you might exchange for Eli. But, Eli is our guy, so let's hope he'll be fine.

a smart fellow.

You also have to factor Matt Schaub in the equation. Accorsi, at the time, specifically mentioned Schaub as a very intriguing prospect, more so than the other notable QB's
As was EA's MO, He probably would of drafted MS in the 2nd round instead of the 3rd, but what if MS has a breakout season in Houston?
That's potentially a solid to above average QB that the Giants could of drafted in the 2nd round.

you trade Eli for Peyton, Brady, Palmer, or Brees. Those guys are elite and not terribly old. Put any of those 4 in the Giants offense and it become an awesome unit. I'm a little shocked that anybody would consider Eli's value anywhere near Brees. The guy was fantastic last year and pretty close to being the MVP of the entire league.

I'd consider guys like Bulger and McNabb. They're both better than Eli, but they're not going to improve much.

Then you have the unknowns. Rivers, Roethlisberger, and Romo have performed better than Eli at times. It's a tossup with those guys for me.

Then you have the complete unknowns -- Leinart, Young, Cutler, Smith, Campbell. There's a pretty good chance one or more of them will be better than Eli, but who knows which one? Not me.

Past performance as well as potential are factors on any trade. Rivers? Not sure how much lower the cost is with him. He got a pretty big money deal. Less NFL exp. Asked to do less. But he played better in his 1 yr. A toss up IMO.

Dan in the springs...thanks.

How many teams out there would unequivocally *not* wish to trade their starting QB for Eli Manning? The number probably exceeds 10, because working from that direction, you're not taking such considerations as age, potential and injury history into account as much. Teams that have a prayer of putting together a winning season don't often make player-for-player trades that intentionally actually set their team back in the short-term, merely in the hopes of reaping long-term gains.

because without playing a down of pro football, you wouldn't know it about anyone. At the same time, scouting tells you something about the player, and the one thing we heard ad-naseum was that Manning was the most pro-ready, and most pro-conditioned. The FO probably figured that at worst case, they were looking at a guy who'd be consistently in the top-5, and not some potential Ryan Leaf bustoid who could not only fail to excel, but could be so bad that the position needed to be filled again before the rookie contract was up.

Gek - it's hard to compare to Schaub, only because he hasn't played a whole lot. He might be another name on the list for comparison not too long from now.

Palmer was a better prospect coming into the NFL. I don't think you could say Palmers floor was top 5. Can't say that about any guy entering the league at any position especially QB.

Knowing what you know now, would you still make the trade that brought Eli to the Giants?

But then again, that's how I felt then...

is a player in this league, not just with the ladies. He's extremely accurate, mobile, and his teammates love him.

But the list stops there. Eli is playing very well this preseason, and is right at the stage of his career where he should be making a big time leap. Eli is still young and healthy, with huge potential and a wealth of talent.

Admittedly I'm a huge homer, and I've been a huge Eli fan the whole way. This is the player I wanted before the '04 draft, and I'm still thrilled the Giants got him. He has the ability to be a top-5 QB, and I think he'll get there very soon.

As much as I like McNabb's game I wouldn't trade Eli for him. The other points you make are tough to argue.

but anyone willing to trade Eli for Romo needs a serious brain exam. Romo has played well in about 6 NFL games. HE's also had the luxury of throwing to the best TRIO of pass catchers in the entire NFL. I'll take Eli over Romo thanks.

not only in this thread but a lot of other sources have already annointed Cutler as the next big thing since Tony Romo...what? just because he's had how many multiple TD games as a rookie? let's wait to see him for a full season first.

im quite hungry

My point is that every good young player with 1 or 2 good stats can be said to have "potential." I mean, people point to Eli and say, "he's got lots of TDs and made some comebacks, he's going to be great." So, fans of other temas or advocates for other QBs could do likewise equally as legitimately, in some cases more.

Rivers has had 1 good year, but Eli hasn't even had as good a year as that in 2.5 shots at it, he's never even sniffed the pro bowl. So, how could we (dispassionately) say Rivers isn't potentially as good or better? In theory, Eli might never have as good a year as he had last year. Obviously, we hope for better. But, instead of giving up picks, they GOT picks for the Eli to Riviers trade so of course Rivers is a better value overall if they are even close to equally compensated. It's like a car, you have to consider initial cost and cost of upkeep vs. performance. Both are expensive to maintain, but Eli cost more up front.

Take his Chargers into the 2nd half against the Bengals on the road and help them put up 42 points in that half. Half of those were courtesy of Tomlinson, but half were TD passes.

That doesn't mean I'd trade Eli to get Rivers, but it does mean that I also wouldn't trade Rivers to get Eli.

Obviously there are qb's with equal too or better talent, but Eli never really straight up lost games. Yeah, he threw a lot of interceptions, but every game that was lost last year seemed to be either play calling or the defense. Put Peyton or Brady in their and I still think there is a 8-8 result. I'd only trade Eli if the other teams offensive coordinator is included in the package.

and ill say it on here since we are basically on the subject

We do know that the trajectory path of a QBs career most often does not have him playing the best football he would play within his first 3 NFL seasons.

So im looking at it as a virtual given that Eli has better football ahead. Of course anything can happen, but Ill take my odds that what we have seen from Eli is not the best he will show and Ill love my chances in doing so

Over the last 2 seasons, hes basically averaged 24 TDs, 17 INT, thrown for about 3500 yards. the comp % hasnt been great but it has improved over each of his first 3 seasons and before a bad 2nd half last year he was over 60% before Toomer got hurt for a while

Seeing seasons from Eli where hes tossing high 20's in TD passes (27+), a little lower on the INTs (14-15 or less), higher comp % around 60%, for 3500+ yards is totally doable. Thats not even a major improvement. Thats a modest improvement across the board for Eli. One that should 100% be expected if you follow the career trajectory path of QBs. And those are numbers that are franchise QB numbers, pro bowl type numbers. They arent Peyton or Carson Palmer numbers but theyre numbers just about any other QB would sign for year in year out

Brady, Hasselback, Brees, and McNabb (assuming he's healthy).

Eli is going to be a very good quarterback. Does he have moments that make you scratch your head? Yes. But he's got the talent, pedigree, desire, and intelligence to be great.

To whom was this directed at? and you'd never be appointed GM : Randy in CT : 8/20/07 1:49 PM of an NFL team.

I agree that we might not have scratched the surface or at least seen anywhere near the best that Eli can be.His 48 td's show me immense promise,his great comebacks do the same.Have we seen two different Eli's out there at times-sure but I'd err on the side of both inexperience and lack of great surrounding talent.Although no TIki as a safety valve I still see a healthy WR corps as being head and shoulders better than they've been for Eli and Eli is also more experienced so I'm going with the positive outlook until proven otherwise.Unless you're a Cowboys,Redskins or Eagles fan why think otherwise?

ALL of you that are negative about Eli will feel like sinners after this year!!!!! He WILL surprise you this year.