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Asshat Alert - Latest on Edwards

Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/7/2009 8:18 pm
WARNING: If you do not like rumors or rumor-mongering, please leave this thread immediately for your own mental health. Please don't shoot the messenger. The following was provided to me by a legitimate source (not one of the previous Edwards asshats on this site):

"The talks are still on. The Browns are being cheap right now and have no interest in re-signing Edwards to a big deal. They are willing to take low compensation. They are asking for a conditional next year (high as a 3) and Danny Ware and Mario Manningham (who Mangini wanted badly for the Jets). They were asking for these same two players before the draft, but the feeling is they can get NY to bite now that they got Nicks and Brown in the draft."

"(I do not) know the status of the Giants response to this offer."
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Where do I sign  
Rick Morehouse : 5/7/2009 8:19 pm : link
A three  
Mark from Jersey : 5/7/2009 8:21 pm : link
Ware and Manningham for Edwards?

Man, even if its a one year rental that is still worth it IMO.

Pull the trigger...
I was thinking about this  
Don : 5/7/2009 8:21 pm : link
the other day. I bet we still get him before the season starts
losing ware  
brandozilla : 5/7/2009 8:21 pm : link
could make us a little thin at RB, but i would still do this. Maybe we can get a Vet RB cheap.
Excellent...thanks Eric  
Blue21 : 5/7/2009 8:22 pm : link
hope Reese can make it happen.Not sure what the price should be but I trust JR
I think with Brown backing up  
Mark from Jersey : 5/7/2009 8:23 pm : link
Bradshaw and Jacobs our depth would be fine...

Plus we have Reese to find us another Practice Squad RB (Ward, Ware) and he's pretty good at that...
AD-Blaze : 5/7/2009 8:23 pm : link
I like that offer.
Do it  
Anakim : 5/7/2009 8:23 pm : link
And include Sinorice

Ware may be very good but with Jacobs, Bradshaw and Brown, he won't see the field
Do it  
BigK : 5/7/2009 8:23 pm : link
Superbowl here we come
That trade is a no-brainer  
seeker716 : 5/7/2009 8:24 pm : link
but not for a one year rental, he'd have to sign an extension
I'd be happy with Eswards but.......  
eaglesSuck : 5/7/2009 8:24 pm : link
I'd rather give up a pick for Ware. Jacobs style leads to him being hurt a couple games a year. Brown has been injured much of his cillege career,Bradshaw realy showed a -lot in 07 but can he do it again? Ware looks to fill Wards shoes better than any of the other ones right now. I for one would like the deal to get done without Ware involved somehow.
Mike in NY : 5/7/2009 8:24 pm : link
The Giants have Jacobs, Bradshaw, Brown, and Wright already on the roster if they move Ware. Also, doing the deal will open up a roster spot so they could always bring back Droughns or kick the tires of whomever Denver cuts next
Thank you very much for sharing Eric  
ATL_Giant : 5/7/2009 8:25 pm : link
But it goes back to the question of how much are we willing to pay BE?

I still think 10MM a year is too much. Sorry Edwards, we don't want what you've got for that price tag.

JR has been incredibly consistent in his ability to negotiate friendly contracts. And if its incentive laden, I'm ok with it.

But Ware, Manningham & a 3rd rd pick, plus a $8.5/yr contract... DEAL!
Take Manningham out of it  
Phil in LA : 5/7/2009 8:25 pm : link
and put in a different part.
I would not do it for a one year rental  
Buck Dharma : 5/7/2009 8:26 pm : link
If they can sign him long term, I'm for it.
hmm..hate to trade mario so fast  
DCPollaro : 5/7/2009 8:26 pm : link
but i think braylon fits our offense nicely

why would the browns want another UM alum??
Losing Ware does not bother me  
Phil S : 5/7/2009 8:27 pm : link
but Manningham still interests me.
Dennis From Madison : 5/7/2009 8:27 pm : link
what amounts to two 3rd round picks (Manningham and Conditional) PLUS Ware, whom we might be able to flip for a pick on his own. Pass.
I like Manningham  
Steve in South Jersey : 5/7/2009 8:28 pm : link
and would rather replace that part of the deal. If Edwards still wants a huge contract is is going to be a problem with out a new contract then no thanks, I won't want him in any trade.
are you guys f'n nuts or what?  
Bill : 5/7/2009 8:28 pm : link
to trade just for the sake of something new is stupid. Manningham is still unknown and Ware is very guys want to trade for a known average receiver? Get real, you guys got BBI fever. Take a few aspirin and a few days off.
SanFranGiantsFan : 5/7/2009 8:28 pm : link
It would be like Ryan Grant  
Frank ' Harrisburg : 5/7/2009 8:30 pm : link
going to Green Bay. Do the Giants' improve with that deal?
I can't say I'd be a fan of this move...  
barens : 5/7/2009 8:30 pm : link
Ware and Manningham have relatively cheap contracts and both players have lots of upside.

Edwards, in no way, shape or form come cheap. And call me crazy, but I like having all of that solid depth at running back.
No deal that gives up two  
TJ : 5/7/2009 8:30 pm : link
presumably promising young players plus draft pick(s) is worth making unless the Giants sign Edwards to an extended deal. And I'm not sold that he is worth the kind of money he has reportedly been demanding. Maybe there is a good reason the browns won't pay him.
Edwards' drops  
Phil in LA : 5/7/2009 8:30 pm : link
certainly fit what our O has been. Don't trade Manningham.
Agree with Phil  
ScottnMorgantown : 5/7/2009 8:31 pm : link
Not willing to part with Manningham.
Bingo Phil,  
dee-fense : 5/7/2009 8:31 pm : link
Micah Rucker and Tyree. Something about the mindset of BE worries me, but what do I know...
Anakim : 5/7/2009 8:31 pm : link
Braylon Edwards is an average WR?
Manningham showed absolutely  
armstead98 : 5/7/2009 8:31 pm : link
nothing last year. This deal is a no brainer. Pull the trigger if we can sign him to an extension.
GMenLTS : 5/7/2009 8:31 pm : link
I want MM here in blue
I dont want Edwards anymore.  
Curtis in MD : 5/7/2009 8:32 pm : link
I'm pretty happy going into the season with what we have.
Last year  
ScottnMorgantown : 5/7/2009 8:32 pm : link
is last year. Who cares what Manningham did as a rookie?
Armstead98, no he didn't,  
barens : 5/7/2009 8:32 pm : link
but I'd hate to see Manningham light it up as a Brown.
Sign Braylon to an extension and we get a proven #1 WR  
Anakim : 5/7/2009 8:33 pm : link
We're pretty deep as far as RB depth so Ware becomes expendable and Manningham is an unknown.

Definitely do this trade if an extension is worked out
that's alot more than it seems  
lalalalala : 5/7/2009 8:33 pm : link

Still not an Edwards fan... now, if this was for Boldin, I'd stuff them both in a van and send it to the airport.
It would be fun  
Bill Barilko : 5/7/2009 8:34 pm : link
to be a fly on the wall when TC and Reese are discussing Manningham.
fuck him and 10 mil per  
GMenLTS : 5/7/2009 8:34 pm : link
if he wants to take 7.5 then maybe.

fuck 9-10 per though
Braylon Edwards in my opinion has more potential and is more of a sure  
Anakim : 5/7/2009 8:34 pm : link
thing than Mario Manningham
barens : 5/7/2009 8:34 pm : link
oh yes it would!
Mike in NY : 5/7/2009 8:35 pm : link
If it is fair for Sinorice Moss to get skewered for his rookie year why should Manningham be exempt?
I think  
cobaltdap : 5/7/2009 8:35 pm : link
the issue has been and will be with the CAP space. My issue has been where does Tyree and his 1.9 million contract fit in. If we release him, how much counts against the cap. We all know we will only carry 6 receivers. Smith, Manningham, Nicks, Hixon, Barden, Moss, and Tyree. We cannot put any of them on the practice squad. Carrying 7 receivers throughout the season is not likely to happen.

So does anybody know the cap hit for Tyree?
ScottnMorgantown : 5/7/2009 8:35 pm : link
Who said it was fair?
If Mario Manningham is the difference between landing Braylon...  
BigBlueBrethren : 5/7/2009 8:35 pm : link
and not landing Braylon, I'll pack his bags for him. a 3, Ware, and Manningham? Yes please.
Edwards needs to convince the Giants  
Steve in South Jersey : 5/7/2009 8:36 pm : link
that he will take a reasonable contract, and that he will be good citizen and locker room teammate.
Edwards,Nicks, Smith,Hixon,Moss,Barden, and Tyree  
Blue21 : 5/7/2009 8:36 pm : link
I could definetly live with that along with Jacobs Bradshaw,Brown and then most likely another vet RB. Oh yeah.Nothing wrong with that.
GMenLTS : 5/7/2009 8:36 pm : link
Tom: Jerry, what the fuck do we do with this stoner?
Jerry: No idea, guy's got skill, but what a fucking idjit. Do we really want another flaming Demps though?
Tom: No more fucking fairies
Jerry: Alright, we keep the dopehead! Cheaper anyway and we don't have to worry about buttpirates sniffin around the showers
Of course you would  
ScottnMorgantown : 5/7/2009 8:36 pm : link
BBB, because you know nothing about the sport or anything else.

Go Golden Knights?
I think it is too early to lose Manningham  
SteelGiant : 5/7/2009 8:36 pm : link
I wish we could give up Moss; I think I rather have Manninghan over Hixon in the long run; also we wouldnt really need Hixon if we had Edwards; We would just need to replace the return skills of Hixon
ChathamMark : 5/7/2009 8:37 pm : link
Ware is a Free Agent after this year. Manningham is an unknown. If JR can sign Edwards to a Giants friendly contract, I'd pull the trigger.
Just Knights now Creampuff...  
BigBlueBrethren : 5/7/2009 8:37 pm : link
We dropped the Golden about 5 years ago, or about the last time you were under 3 bills.
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