WARNING: If you do not like rumors or rumor-mongering, please leave this thread immediately for your own mental health. Please don't shoot the messenger. The following was provided to me by a legitimate source (not one of the previous Edwards asshats on this site):
"The talks are still on. The Browns are being cheap right now and have no interest in re-signing Edwards to a big deal. They are willing to take low compensation. They are asking for a conditional next year (high as a 3) and Danny Ware and Mario Manningham (who Mangini wanted badly for the Jets). They were asking for these same two players before the draft, but the feeling is they can get NY to bite now that they got Nicks and Brown in the draft."
"(I do not) know the status of the Giants response to this offer."
Not only that, but we're going to have to ask him to stay healthy throughout the whole year, or we'll probably repeat '08 again if he gets hurt (assuming no one develops since most of BBI have no faith in them) and the scheme doesn't change that late in the year).
We lost Osi -> apparently no problem
We lost #1 WR -> Playoff loss - that has to change in '09 or we're doomed.
Because with all that, we'll need that one piece of the puzzle to be there in the post season and if he's not, then we'll have to rely on the guys who were held back due to Edwards/Plax/Toomer. WR is one of the main reasons we lost to PHI. Hixon, Smith, Barden, Boss, etc. aren't Edwards, but Edwards isn't going to be the final piece to another SB run. Edwards will help, but he'll be asked too much here. We need to develop our own unless a FA is actually worth the pick up (one who won't affect future picks, decisions).
Honestly, if we were going to make a trade, I'd rather see Nicks for Edwards and maybe we throw in a conditional pick based on the performance of both next year. We'd still have developmental guys in Manningham and Barden (and Moss, if you're still hopeful there) to go with experienced players in Edwards, Smith and Hixon (and Tyree, if you're a fan of him). And yes, B.E. will be more expensive than Nicks, but he's also more of a sure thing and still has potential for a high ceiling in a new system with a good QB.
If Edwards is willing to sign a reasonable deal, I am all for trading unknown young players.
Odds are, Edwards wants too much. Will see how it plays out.
Braylon Edwards would serve as a big play reciever and decoy. We need the decoy in place, so we can unleash the Beast (Brandon Jacobs) at will.
Opposing teams will respect Edwards lining up on the outside. They do not respect any of our current WR's to hurt them deep.
I trust Jerry Reese to (if indeed he signs him) to make his contract very Giant friendly.
Aren't you glad Accorsi didn't give him away to get Manning?
It's a chance either way. I'm all for whatever the front office does. They've shown in the past that they can assemble a damned good team.
If they think BE is worth 2 unknowns (to fans at least- I would hope the coaches and FO know what they've got), then I'm all for it.
That's what they (the Browns) are asking for.
I just hope that if we do get BE that #1- he produces and #2- his cap-hit doesn't hamstring us for the future.
I want Braylon Edwards for that reason alone.
But again, it's all about the money. These rumors never even mention the contract demands and then we have 500 posts on a thread where only about 10 people mention the contract demands. People are pissing on each other about Manningham and Danny Ware...it's kind of funny.
I don't suppose we trade for Edwards and NOT sign him long term until he proves himself? is that an option here? Make a fair deal with Clev, then tell Edwards to play for pay and go from there?
I think you are 100% wrong, here.
But just for ha ha's...Osi dominated the Panthers late in 04. Manningham caught a screen pass one time I think. He also had problems with the playbook and really never got on to the field.
If salaries weren't a concern, you trade Manningham for Edwards every single time and never even think twice about it.
It's barely been a year since he was drafted. He's still a rookie pretty much.
He was a first round talent taken in the third round, and he was a project, we knew that.
You would trade him away not even a year into it w/out seeing what he can do at all?
I think i'd do that.
Stan from LA : 4/28/2009 12:19 pm
I was told yesterday by a friend who is a big time Brown fan that he heard from someone in the Browns' organization that the Edwards deal was done and it was done a few weeks ago, but that the Giants and Edwards could not come to an agreement on contract extension terms. Apparently the Giants wanted to give Plaxico money to Edwards but Edwards wanted Fitz money.
He also said that he was told that the deal could still be done if "BE visits reality with his contract demands."
I hear this is still the case...
If he blows up this year and goes for 80 with 15 tds....NY could let him walk and most liekly re-coup the 3rd rounder as FA compensation anwyay.
The more I think about it the more I like the idea of dealing a 3rd and even a 6th for Edwards and letting him play for pay.
I just don't believe a substantial part of the salary cap should be allocated to the WR position.
Firstly, if Edwards comes here assume he is in the 1 slot.right..I personally think Nicks/Smith will fight for 2 and 3, with the understanding that our game changer can return to his older position and guess who can return punts and kicks again. Dont get me wrong, Hixon has a huge upside as a WR but if this happens to go threw, I would not have anything wrong with throwing him in on certain packages to stretch the field. and as a 4. I personally think beckum will be an immediate impact player. So if we do get Edwards. I see Edwards/Nicks/Smith/Hixon lets not forget about Boss, Beckum out of the H-Back. Barden for 3 downs and red zone. We have mad talent.
I wont even talk about the RBS. They speak for themselves. Just my $.02
Anyway, I'm in the "No Thanks on BE" camp. Fk all that money he's gonna want. He's not good enough to be worth it, imo. I'd rather we go with what we have.
Unless Cle. & BE settles for less. MM needs to NOT be included.
Thats a joke. You guys have seen him play how many snaps? How many snaps would he even play this year behind Jacobs, Bradshaw and quite possibly Brown?
This is a good deal I think and as long as Braylon isn't a little bitch about his contract and we sign him to an extension (that we don't overpay for), I think we would be stupid not to take this deal.
The other guy who happens to be a personal favorite is Sinorice Moss because he has such deadly speed. He made some great plays in preseason and he gives them another dimension with speed.
Steve Smith should take the role of vintage Amani Toomer, great possession receiver and 2 rookies who knows what their roles will be. Manningham from all indications is a guy thats gonna contribute prominently at WR. They'll be loaded at WR, maybe overloaded, depending on what a guy like Manningham does.