I don't understand how every single time, regardless of who it is we have a turnover that takes 6 points off the board. It happens every single game without missing a beat. Is this a curse? Its not like its anything that's lacking its just insanely consistent bad luck.
be the worst possible play call only thing worse would be a sweep with Jacobs there. I thought maybe put Bradshaw in bc he was quicker to punch it in in case they knew Jacobs would be getting it and stop him like always. But nope Killdrive draw.
should be doing nothing today but running the ball in the red zone. With the lack of personnel its ridiculous to chance playing from behind. After what that could have been I will gladly take the 3.
with Gilbride right there. You go into shotgun and bring in Bradshaw, so teams blitz towards Bradshaw because he either is getting the handoff and the stuff him or he has to block which he is not that great at..
If they stayed with Jacobs in the backfield they at least create hesitation in the defense about blitzing there knowing jacobs can hold his own in a straight blitz blocking assingment.
is standard protocol for the giants. It is like clockwork. If you've been watching them the last 5 years and they get into shotgun there, I'd say there is a 75% chance thats the play they're going with. And they did.
it was funny. In the Fox pregame show, they asked if MJD and Mike Sims Walker were in and Shefter said, In, In, In, In, In and In. At least I thought it was funny.
As others have said. I don't make a habit of stating that I know more than the professionals....but that draw was obvious from a mile away. I called it out loud before the snap.
Very safe conservative call. With a team that's had the turnover issues we've had...maybe not a terrible decision. But there's really no arguing that it was a relatively easy one to diagnose.
He has 1 sack 2 years into being drafted as a passrusher. And he sucks on specials.
Say what you want about Reese and the draft is obviously a crapshoot but he is a bad, bad pick. Didn't like it then and I don't like the pick now either.
Another unprepared Tommy Coughlin team. The gameplan should have been to stop the run and make Garrard beat you with his arm. Yet we were rushing only three a couple times.
a good throw and that is a TD. Let's not make excuses for Eli... That should have been a TD. He HAS to make those throws and he hasn't been hitting them all year.
but he is getting on my nerves this year. Not where I thought he would be this year.I know he has a Super Bowl ring but I am starting to loose patients with him.
why are some of u already whining about injuries...
injuries didnt cause a bad play call on 3rd and 2 on goaline... and injuries didnt underthrow a sure TD. and injuries didnt allow the Jags to run through us.
injuries have nothing to do with the start of this game. Execute...
I agree? These type of fans are comical. Giants FTW is probably one of the worst on this board. I noticed he recommended a new MLB and SLB after the last series. I am sure everyone one of these clowns are absolutlely perfect in their lives.
pounded by Guy Whimper. Might help if TT actually decided to use his arms when tackling instead of just his shoulder. We are getting crushed at the LOS.
who ever heard of running the ball on 3rd and goal from like the 6 yd line, and settling for a FG ???? even the coaches know hes a Goober and have NO confidence in him,, yea, yea, I know, his best receivers are out,, like that would stop his brother, Rivers, and the other top QBs,, and that long pass to Manningham was very impressive,, he couldnt quite catch it, but it WAS within 5 yards of him, lol
They see the playoffs in their sight and they are going for it. They are taking advantage of their lucky wins and stepping up their game to make a push, just like the Bears are doing. Giants are a bunch of pussies that can't step up tp the plate when it counts. It ain't the coach, it's the players.
the Giants defensive scheme can function without good linebackers. I learned that here. Cast-offs from Atlanta and Tennessee are just fine. Really, don't worry.
for what its worth the crowd seems loud today, knows that this a big game i guess. I know theres always countless threads during the week about the crowd noise, but im just pointing it out
it's early and a 7 pt game. They have a weak defense and we proved that we can move the ball on them. The defense has been greatly disappointing though.
This team is dead!! FLAT!! Our 100 million dollar man misses Manningham wide open and he underthrows him by 10 yards! WTF! Thats why we are losing games bc we cant capitalize or make a play... ever!
have predicted this? We can't even stop the run at all. As someone noted, they almost scored on that third down run. And given how limited we are offensively, we can't hope to win a shootout. This isn't about injuries. Our run D is healthy. We are just getting blown up on the LOS.
whats the sense of even typing on here during the game
Boley is okay, but Bulluck and Goff are back-ups, period! Bulluck is never in a play and Goff rarely makes big plays at a position that you need a playmaker. I'm sick of hearing the bullshit that in this scheme we can play without a good LB corps. That's just assinine. No team. no matter how good their D-line and DB's are, can play with 1 average LB amd 2 back-ups as your starters.
team because they came out flat defensively - is anyone defending Eli on that piss poor throw to MM, or worse yet sying "Gilbride sucks" because of the call that led to MM being wide open on a deep post.
Fellas, last I checked game is 4 qtrs. Let's hope the D stiffens and Eli gets another shot at MM open deep.
that Eli Manning should not be making. That pass is begging to be intercepted. He continues to make those decisions. It's maddening. Just throw it away and take the 3. Even if it's caught he's not going anywhere.
maybe run it? Either way not sure how eli has no greenzone presence he threw a TD and it got called back...he is throwing to street receivers right now and MM
Well we had the typical penalty to take points off the board now all they have to due is turn it over in the redzone then it will be a typical Giants game.
I bet.. I swear we can't get a break from these Nfl refs.. Nfl is honestly bullshit, 6 games Giants dont get call for much by refs, then Giants start struggling and the refs start calling calls against the Giants hmmm...
have to admit he was holding on the play, however, the Jags defender had his right hand on the face mask of Boss. So much so that Boss' helmet almost came off.
Boss, and watch him continue to have one major screw up every week.
You people ever wonder why we lose? Cause the same scrubs play each and every week. Put Pascoe as the only TE and run single eye sets like we usually do.
There has to be consequences for shit play every week. Bradshaw got benched this week, Boss should be the victim next week.
Why would Eli even try to throw that ball to Boss there. He is sandwhiched between two defenders. Dumb decision. Nice job stepping up in the pocket. Dumb decision throwing the ball there. Luckily it didn't hurt us.
I cannot believe people are blaming Eli Manning so far today.
He threw a strike, called back. The d-line and LBs didn't show up so far and Boss screws us out of a TD. Plus, Hagan fumbled (called back). Give me a break.
respect him but not enough fire from this team and they are to inconsistent. I hate the lack of passion at home. They have never been strong at home under him and to many embarrassing performances.
If there is one person on the hook right now for me, its Jerry Reese. What the hell has he done to improve this defense? Pay too much for Boley, draft 0 LBs.
Iam tired of watching these second half catastrophic collapses! I mean its not like we just lose the games we get straight up embarrassed at the end of seasons.
We are one of the most penalized, turnover happy, can't show up in primetime or big games, injured riddled year in and year out teams in the league. Love the team to death and that is one of the reasons I get so mad. I feel that the thing needs a change and that last play is a big reason why.
Should walk the fuck out of the stadium. They are a bunch of fucking pussies. Yeah all Bill Sherdian's fault my ass. They are a group of no testicle having bitches.
That should just about do it. The Giants are not a good football team. Lead the league in turnovers, defense can't stop anyone on 3rd down, can't play well at home, can't stay healthy. Time to start looking forward to the draft.
That was beyond pathetic. Everyone of our sorry linebackers were on their backs too on that broken play. Brutal. Reese should be fired if he doesn't draft or sign a quality LB this off-season.
is over. Team is done. No pass rush. Really inexcusable by Fewell. It's almost as if he is afraid of the Jags WRs. Why? Garrard is a decent QB, but it doesn't matter who is back there with that amount of time. They will look like Marino. Bad coaching.
at those pathetic fucking losers. If this keeps up, Coughlin should send a message and bench as many starters on D as possible. Then make them wear women's underwear and parade around the stadium.
... in this game like at Buffalo in 2007, but I'm wasting my time. This defense bitched about the offense turning the ball over and they come out like this? Three drives. Three scores. What a fucking embarrassment. Pussies.
Boo loud Giants fans at the Meadowlands.
Its a disgrace when they are talking about how Coughlin drafted great guys on his old team. What a bunch of losers
There's very little passion from anyone on defense today. That's the main problem. But even bigger than that is the fact our LB corps is the worst in the league. And it's been brutal for a while.
when he doesn't have a free play. When there's nothing to lose, he risks a turnover with a three yard dump to a covered running back instead. Is Manning hitting the pipe before games or something?
At least we'll probably wind up with a new head coach. I'm voting for Cowher.
I expected this team to come out pissed and fired up and instead they came out rolling over...the offense is looking like the better of two units and they are down 5 starters...this is ridiculous.
however, he did have Manningham wide open to at least put us in scoring position and he missed horribly. He misses a throw for points at least once each game. When we had third and 5 on the 10...he made a horrible decision to try and force it into Boss with double coverage. Lots if things that may not be so obvious. It is not always a missed throw, but often the throw he did not attempt.
D is playing shit, but if we had 21 it would be 21-17, not 17-9 down,, ridiculous,, even the coaches know hes a Goober,, running the ball in the red zone,, gimme a break
Eli has his issues with throwing accuracy at times. The misfire
to a wide open Hagan was worse than the misfire to MM earlier. But criticizing his choices, how he reads the Ds, aligns the pass pro, looks over every option on almot every play when the primary reads doesn't break open as he expects - that is poor vision from the fans about what Eli does as well as anybody, including big brother.
I think I saw t least 3 plays where Eli's reads and probably adjustments against zone overload or max personnel blitzes by the Jags neutralized them completely, along with another read where the blitzer came unblocked but Eli got the ball off to his hot read (IIRC Boss) for a nice gain.
If you don't see that, I feel sorry for you, because you're missing what's good about Eli and indeed about TC's and Gilbride's offense, what's great about our OL, backs, and TEs as they participate in pass protection. Maybe I catch 1/3 of that execution by Eli and his team mates, and it's a lovely thing to see.
How about no turnovers today...
Killdrive ugghh
change that here
The Beast running hard.
what a wasted fucking drive....
Sorry, Gavin. (Kendra, cover the young ones' ears!) =:-)
But still, how the fuck can this keep happening?????
GAME
This is absolutely unbelievable.
Beautiful drive up until that moment as well. Not even a single third down.
he took two steps and fumbled
It was a great play on 1st down.
BTW by the look of what is happening at the booth is they may now be looking at the time to reset the clock and place the ball.
Feed the Beast
wow
Not really a bad playcall, but the o-line got blown up.
Do we ever do play action?
If they stayed with Jacobs in the backfield they at least create hesitation in the defense about blitzing there knowing jacobs can hold his own in a straight blitz blocking assingment.
Maybe you can play Madden with Eggs.
Very safe conservative call. With a team that's had the turnover issues we've had...maybe not a terrible decision. But there's really no arguing that it was a relatively easy one to diagnose.
fucking.
tackle.
70 fcking yards rushing on that drive.
Anyone?
He has 1 sack 2 years into being drafted as a passrusher. And he sucks on specials.
Say what you want about Reese and the draft is obviously a crapshoot but he is a bad, bad pick. Didn't like it then and I don't like the pick now either.
Like I said yesterday, I could see a possibility where we kill them, or where the Jags run us off the field for over 200 yards.
Both Jones and McCoy had runs of 20+ against our defense, late in their respective games.
Boley and Goff are being manhandled...
Dropping passes and bad defense is reminiscent of last year.
No we go back 5 yards. Just stop making dumb mistakes.
injuries have nothing to do with the start of this game. Execute...
We will win if we execute
oh yeah, Gilbride is the problem.
Wow. That looks like the last 2 games from 2009.
Jax near 100 yards rushing in Q1
Eli, did you see that slide?
Shoulder hits aren't gonna cut it on a guy like MJD.
Play 10 in the box and let them throw it and pray.
End of the quarter.
Defense - C
so rolls this year
This is painful to watch right now.
Another miss by Bulluck....
Another first down.
We cannot use that excuse anymore.
If this game keeps going the way it is, be prepared to hear a LOT about Coughlin's teams poor finishes.
what if the Giants ran that play on 3rd and goal?
That said we need to answer that score Our D needs
a break in the worse way....
For a team that's probably in a must win...they aren't playing with any urgency.
NYGUES : 1:48 pm
No one is the slightest bit intimidated by us.
- 2007 NYG halfway through the season
Move the ball here, tie it up and go from there.
even worse, they're not being the kind of embarassing that extends the game. just getting grinded to death.
Think about that one for a second.
Fellas, last I checked game is 4 qtrs. Let's hope the D stiffens and Eli gets another shot at MM open deep.
that should set us up for some points at least
LOL.
that's a suicide penalty right there
Idiots. Nobody should have to defend Manning for that poor throw, but it's one play in a game where our defense is the main culprit.
Now, we have to kick.
that's a problem. hmm, maybe run on 2nd and 2 next time?
I am sick of these same scrubs playing in each every week.
damn penalties
And once again we have to settle for 3. HATING THIS!!!
you'd bitch about that. I guess he should have spiked the ball in the ground.
they're going to have to take some chances to score points.
He throws the ball where only his receiver can catch it and you still bitch.
When you play scrubs, you get shit plays like this team has done for 3 weeks now.
he can't slide?
Not to mention, no holding called on Jax all day, with several that should have been.
Seriously, when Eli faked the handoff, you KNEW the ball was getting in the end zone. Play action near the goalline is practically an automatic.
Stupidest team in the league.
NO ONE WAS FUCKING OPEN. lol. no matter what he did there, you'd bitch about it.
god, why don't you save some of your retarded venom for the defense, who suddenly this weeks, decides they don't feel like getting off their blocks?
You people ever wonder why we lose? Cause the same scrubs play each and every week. Put Pascoe as the only TE and run single eye sets like we usually do.
There has to be consequences for shit play every week. Bradshaw got benched this week, Boss should be the victim next week.
the guy bumbling into Boss's area? yeah, he was open alright. lol
Goff!
and these retards are complaining about Eli and talking about how Clayton was open running a garbage route where another receiver was
Now...that play.
Our defense SUCKS ASS!!
I said thsi 4 weeks ago and people wanted to ban me. I guess I know nothing... haha
Tighten up!
this is embarassing. just let them score and leave us enough time to kick a FG
Bad day.
Webster is shitting the bed...
If there is one person on the hook right now for me, its Jerry Reese. What the hell has he done to improve this defense? Pay too much for Boley, draft 0 LBs.
Reese gets a pass for Ernie Accorsi's team.
We've gotten abused at all 3 levels today.
and when they do, 8 out of 10 times it's a screen
I guess we don't want to call a timeout to give us some time?
Cofield having a strong day - great hustle!
I feel sorry for the people that actually pay money to watch this performance.
They are running simple, basic plays and they can't stop them.
If we had a real defense the score would be 14-0
If we had a real offensive line the score would be 14-0
If we had a real TE that could block the score would be 14-0
Run it twice inside the 5?
well, they're getting a double possession now. great.
Love the Fewell. I can see why Buffalo didnt keep his sorry ass.
My god, stand up men.
it's going to be 20-6 when we get the ball back
God damn Sheridan.... oh wait.
Damn 1st down again Watch Lewis the TE score now...
Our corners refuse to press, so this shit is open all game. Quick slants, stop patters have been open all year.
Sheridan had 0 talent last year, Fewell has talent and does shit with it.
fuck this loser team
"Wow. Just wow"
now that's pathetic. not that the last play wasn't a TD.
D is earning their game checks today
KP nice pursuit....
We might just finish 7-9 the way we're looking.
I'm sick of wasting my Sunday's hoping for them to man up.
It wasn't his balls that scored it was his legs.
You fucking moron.
they can contain vick, and not contain a guy who runs at half his speed
That is Tom Coughlin football
Pussies!!!!
that is the problem
Sheridan had no safeties, a hurt Tuck/Osi/Coefield/Canty, and 0 LBs.
Fewell has 3 healthy safeties, a healthy DL, and still 0 LBs.
This defense isnt any better. Its a fucking joke.
I wonder if they'll even bother to compete the final two weeks this season?
How fucking ironic that the offense is in a hospital ward and the defense is playing like a bunch of pussies.
BTW, Garrard was a TC draft pick.
APPAULING
SICKENING
JUST FUCKING UGLY!!!
But we'll probably draft a DE instead.
Garbage Coaching. Garbage Play.
Be an interesting opening drive
Manning has an absolutely free play and dumps it off???!!!! This is our cerebral qb??
Manning has a free play and doesn't go downfield, unreal...
Its a disgrace when they are talking about how Coughlin drafted great guys on his old team. What a bunch of losers
This isn't Rutgers or UCONN its the NFL This team is shit from the top down
I expected this team to come out pissed and fired up and instead they came out rolling over...the offense is looking like the better of two units and they are down 5 starters...this is ridiculous.
Not that the defense, Hagan, or Boss came to play at all.
I think I saw t least 3 plays where Eli's reads and probably adjustments against zone overload or max personnel blitzes by the Jags neutralized them completely, along with another read where the blitzer came unblocked but Eli got the ball off to his hot read (IIRC Boss) for a nice gain.
If you don't see that, I feel sorry for you, because you're missing what's good about Eli and indeed about TC's and Gilbride's offense, what's great about our OL, backs, and TEs as they participate in pass protection. Maybe I catch 1/3 of that execution by Eli and his team mates, and it's a lovely thing to see.